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Title: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on June 12, 2019, 11:44:14 PM
THIS is for Intelligent speculation with some basis in fact.

It is NOT for wishlists in any form.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on June 12, 2019, 11:53:37 PM
Phil has tweeted a cofirmation of sorts that next season will be a regular person season. It’s on his Twitter account.


https://twitter.com/PhilKeoghan/status/1138965694538604544



Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: dryedmangoez on June 12, 2019, 11:54:55 PM
Isn't that tweet referring to TAR32 though? Not really TAR33.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on June 13, 2019, 02:44:16 AM
Interview with Phil, talks about S33 at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh3Q3RHdyv0

No official renewal or word on S33 yet, but he said believes S32 is a very strong season, so strong that he's confident CBS will renew Amazing Race
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: BourkieBoy on June 13, 2019, 03:03:29 AM
Do we know if we are filming in October/November, as speculated by Peach earlier this month? ???

(https://imgur.com/BgW24ZU.jpg)

Just putting it out there!  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on June 13, 2019, 09:40:41 AM
That dates literally from last year. I do not believe it reflects the current status.

And October is likely OUT as Race to the Center of the Earth will be filming then.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Marionete on June 13, 2019, 03:49:29 PM
Yeah, that tweet by Phil is quite obviously about S32.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on June 13, 2019, 06:31:25 PM
Yeah, that tweet by Phil is quite obviously about S32.
That was my interpretation of Phil’s tweet as well. The question was about having a normal person cast rather than what the TAR 31’s cast was/is.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on June 13, 2019, 11:03:10 PM
You all are prob right about it being 32...just was being cautious!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARUSAFan on June 18, 2019, 07:18:25 AM
So we don't get any filming soon, Peach? I was pumped to start with the detective work, which I look forward to every filming.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARFansurvivor on June 18, 2019, 11:46:40 AM
Jodi from Season 14, who is now casting for The Amazing Race. Was on Racers Recap, where She said that they where Going to cast in September. So November seem to be a Safe bet.

Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 18, 2019, 11:44:34 PM
Okay, so I know we can't necessarily assume where each season will go based off of where it has gone in the past. Unfortunately, since we can't read the minds of the producers, this is exactly what we'll have to do in order to speculate where Season 33 will be going.

I think speculation for Season 33 will be unique in that - in my opinion - we can't really eliminate any specific continent from the running! Let's just start with speculation in terms of each continent:

Europe and Asia. Unless they pull something akin to Season 2, which I doubt, we will see visits to Europe and Asia. I don't think anyone will disagree here.

Africa. Since Africa was skipped in Season 32, I think it could be potentially fair game for Season 33.

Oceania. Yes, we are long overdue, and I think a visit in Season 33 is quite likely. Then again, we've been saying that for how many seasons now? (lol).

South America. To be fair, we did have 3 different legs in 3 different countries last season. However, South America was skipped in 30 and 31, and was featured in each of 26, 27, 28 and 29. Personally, I don't think it's likely, but having said that, I don't think we can completely eliminate it.

North America (not USA). This is the only continent that I'm skeptical about. North America has been visited in three of the last five seasons; however, keep in mind that, excluding season 8, North America has only been visited 7 times. I would completely welcome another leg here since it's so underused, but I don't think it's likely.

So, all continents are fair game this season! In terms of pinpointing countries however, I think this could make it a little difficult to speculate since all are fair game. However, I have noticed a pattern. Let's investigate this pattern:

With the sole exception of Season 20, every season from 19 to 32 has visited at least one country that has only been visited once:

- Taiwan (12 and 19)
- Panama (8 and 19)
- Indonesia (19 and 21)
- Bangladesh (17 and 21)
- Turkey (7 and 21)
- Botswana (7 and 22)
- Scotland (3 and 22)
- Portugal (3 and 23)
- Poland (11 and 23)
- Sri Lanka (6 and 24)
- Denmark (19 and 25)
- Philippines (5 and 25)
- Namibia (2 and 26)
- Peru (7 and 26)
- Zambia (1 and 27)
- Mexico (3 and 28)
- Greece (9 and 29)
- Iceland (6 and 30)
- Belgium (19 and 30)
- Czech Republic (15 and 30)
- Zimbabwe (27 and 30)
- Croatia (12 and 31)
- Colombia (28 and 32)
- Paraguay (20 and 32)
- Kazakhstan (13 and 32).

I think this pattern will continue for Season 33. Now, there's some countries that I don't think will be visited this time around. For example, I don't think we'll see Trinidad and Tobago again (for obvious reasons) or Burkina Faso (for safety reasons). But if I had to put my money on any specific countries to be seen again, I think Costa Rica, Uruguay, Ireland, Finland, Hungary, Tunisia, Ethiopia, or one of the Caucuses could be seen again.

In terms of new countries, I think the usual suspects - the ones that this community has been throwing around for several years now - are fair game as always: Slovakia, Slovenia, Latvia, Andorra, a whole slew of Balkan countries, Cyprus, Nepal, Bhutan, and Myanmar, among others. I think these are all likely, but here's a few that don't get much attention:

Rwanda. Rwanda has really been trying to make itself stand out on the international stage. I recently watched a video on how Rwanda is trying to make itself "the Singapore of Africa." It's a safe country that has been trying to rebuild itself since the genocides. I think it would be awesome if the Race went here.

Algeria. I could actually see two legs here. Algiers and Oran are some beautiful Mediterranean cities that have loads of history and culture, which equate to a slew of possible challenges. Plus, it's quite safe.

Moldova. I know when people talk about new countries in eastern Europe, they almost exclusively talk about Belarus, with some side talk about Bulgaria or Latvia, depending on your definition of "Eastern Europe". However, I think a lot of people skip over Moldova, which is too bad. It's a beautiful country, with lots of history and scenery, and Chisinau would be a great anchor for a leg here.

If you're still reading, thank you! I know it's a long post, but I could analyze this stuff for days and I could say a lot more. Let me know what you guys think!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: naejae91 on June 19, 2019, 09:10:16 PM
I think they will skip central and west Africa this season for precaution on recent Ebola breakout at DR Congo and Uganda.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on June 19, 2019, 09:44:45 PM
Even so that Southern Africa is the mostly common visited region in the entire African continent as South Africa is long overdue that hasn't been visited in a decade and a half.

We haven't had a 6-continent race since TAR 11 (All-Stars).
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: redskevin88 on June 20, 2019, 03:27:36 AM
It will start & end in the United States. The finale city will be in some airport hub city or easily connectable.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on June 20, 2019, 07:18:19 AM
It will start & end in the United States. The finale city will be in some airport hub city or easily connectable.


 :funny: :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARFansurvivor on June 20, 2019, 09:45:33 AM
Even so that Southern Africa is the mostly common visited region in the entire African continent as South Africa is long overdue that hasn't been visited in a decade and a half.

We haven't had a 6-continent race since TAR 11 (All-Stars).
Yes Hope they do that again!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Genius on June 20, 2019, 11:54:23 AM
Algeria in 2019 is pretty much not possible, since they are facing significant political issues. Other than that, Brannockdevice wrote a great post.

TAR US version has *only* visited 91 different countries over 31 seasons (less than 3 new countries per season). The number of countries in the UN is still more than double of that. After removing all the problematic countries, it is still possible to visit at least 2 new countries per season, assuming those governments are willing to cooperate.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on June 20, 2019, 07:15:43 PM
They usually spend more time in the warmer parts of the world/ the southern hemisphere in the (US) fall seasons so I imagine we'll likely see something in Oceania in 33. No Africa or popular east asian countries in 32 so they'll probably be on the list too. Mainland China is probably out of the picture right now tho.  Maybe HK too depending on the political situation there.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on June 21, 2019, 11:20:31 AM
They usually spend more time in the warmer parts of the world/ the southern hemisphere in the (US) fall seasons so I imagine we'll likely see something in Oceania in 33. No Africa or popular east asian countries in 32 so they'll probably be on the list too. Mainland China is probably out of the picture right now tho.  Maybe HK too depending on the political situation there.

Because October/November are the warmer parts in most of Southern Hemisphere compare to cold winter in Northern Hemisphere.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 21, 2019, 03:29:56 PM
They usually spend more time in the warmer parts of the world/ the southern hemisphere in the (US) fall seasons so I imagine we'll likely see something in Oceania in 33. No Africa or popular east asian countries in 32 so they'll probably be on the list too. Mainland China is probably out of the picture right now tho.  Maybe HK too depending on the political situation there.

Because October/November are the warmer parts in most of Southern Hemisphere compare to cold winter in Northern Hemisphere.

Perhaps we could see something akin to the route of Season 22. Lots of time spent in Oceania, Southeast Asia, and Southern Africa.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on June 21, 2019, 10:09:47 PM
They usually spend more time in the warmer parts of the world/ the southern hemisphere in the (US) fall seasons so I imagine we'll likely see something in Oceania in 33. No Africa or popular east asian countries in 32 so they'll probably be on the list too. Mainland China is probably out of the picture right now tho.  Maybe HK too depending on the political situation there.

Because October/November are the warmer parts in most of Southern Hemisphere compare to cold winter in Northern Hemisphere.


Perhaps we could see something akin to the route of Season 22. Lots of time spent in Oceania, Southeast Asia, and Southern Africa.

That'd be a good fit because they'll be airing two fall filmed seasons in a row and 32 mostly follows the southern hemisphere too. It'd be some diversity. 32 is pretty South America/ South East Asia heavy.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ovalorange on June 21, 2019, 10:43:07 PM
Jodi from Season 14, who is now casting for The Amazing Race. Was on Racers Recap, where She said that they where Going to cast in September. So November seem to be a Safe bet.

I saw this and took it as casting is recommencing in September as they're currently on break. I don't think they could turn around a cast and give them enough time to prep for filming so quickly.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on June 22, 2019, 02:59:15 PM
I’m pretty sure Jody meant the semifinal phase of casting interviews. They initially review all applications as they are submitted year round.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on June 22, 2019, 03:54:19 PM
Jodi from Season 14, who is now casting for The Amazing Race. Was on Racers Recap, where She said that they where Going to cast in September. So November seem to be a Safe bet.

I saw this and took it as casting is recommencing in September as they're currently on break. I don't think they could turn around a cast and give them enough time to prep for filming so quickly.

Maybe she meant casting for TAR34 (because TAR33 is casted already?)?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on June 22, 2019, 04:23:17 PM
I’ve not read anything to suggest TAR 33 has been already cast.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 22, 2019, 07:38:21 PM
I’ve not read anything to suggest TAR 33 has been already cast.

Plus, right now we only have Season 32 confirmed. There’s no way they’re already casting two seasons in advance
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on June 22, 2019, 08:44:43 PM
You think we'll have two seasons air next year? Maybe 32 in the winter and 33 over the summer or as a fall replacement?  Don't see 34 shooting until probably this time next year
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARUSAFan on June 22, 2019, 09:05:05 PM
It will start & end in the United States. The finale city will be in some airport hub city or easily connectable.

I died laughing at this. :funny: :clap2:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on June 23, 2019, 09:02:21 PM
I’m pretty sure Jody meant the semifinal phase of casting interviews. They initially review all applications as they are submitted year round.

I think she meant exactly what she said. 
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 26, 2019, 01:42:39 AM
Hey everyone! I'm back for some more analysis  :funny:

I want to talk about a specific region of the world that the Race often visits - East Asia (for clarification, my definition of East Asia includes China, Japan, North & South Korea and Taiwan).

This region of the world is visited frequently. In fact, East Asia has only been skipped a sum total of seven times - it was skipped in Seasons 3, 5, 7, 13, 22, 25 & 32. Especially since it was skipped last season, I think it's definitely up for another visit this time around. However, there are a few things I would like to point out.

Because the United States is currently having some strained relations with Mainland China, I don't think it will be visited. Granted, just because the governments are having some issues doesn't necessarily mean that tourism and such would be affected. That being said, I will be surprised if the Mainland is visited.

Also, there are some protests in Hong Kong right now. I know there is a general consensus of an October/November visit, so conditions could clear up by then. If I was production though (which I'm not), I wouldn't risk it. Again, I would be surprised if Hong Kong was visited. Plus, it was just visited in Seasons 27 and 30.

I'm also skeptical of a visit to Japan, but much less so than China. In past seasons, Japan has, for the most part, followed a very nice pattern of being visited every three seasons: Seasons 9, 12, 15, and 18 had Japan, and then again in 20, 23, and 26. I'm actually a little surprised they waited five whole seasons between 26 and 31 for another visit. I know this is a reach, but a visit in 33 would go against the pattern. I do concede that a visit to Japan is much more likely than China. However, I would at least hope that they go to another city besides Tokyo. I would be quite pleased with a first time visit to Kyoto or a return to Osaka.

That being said, I think the most likely candidates are Taiwan and South Korea. Taipei and Seoul are quite capable of hosting legs again, but perhaps we could see new visits to cities like Kaohsiung, Busan, Daegu, Gwangju or Jeju. If I could add a personal note with a touch of analysis, I would also not rule out an exclusive visit to Macau. The only full Macau leg was Season 11, and if you ask me it was not a memorable one. Perhaps we could take a lesson from the Canadian and Australian legs.  :bow:

Thanks for reading! I know it was long, but hopefully thought out and analyzed well! Let me know your opinions on a visit to East Asia!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Parovic on June 26, 2019, 01:54:16 AM
Hey everyone! I'm back for some more analysis  :funny:

I want to talk about a specific region of the world that the Race often visits - East Asia (for clarification, my definition of East Asia includes China, Japan, North & South Korea and Taiwan).

This region of the world is visited frequently. In fact, East Asia has only been skipped a sum total of seven times - it was skipped in Seasons 3, 5, 7, 13, 22, 25 & 32. Especially since it was skipped last season, I think it's definitely up for another visit this time around. However, there are a few things I would like to point out.

Because the United States is currently having some strained relations with Mainland China, I don't think it will be visited. Granted, just because the governments are having some issues doesn't necessarily mean that tourism and such would be affected. That being said, I will be surprised if the Mainland is visited.

Also, there are some protests in Hong Kong right now. I know there is a general consensus of an October/November visit, so conditions could clear up by then. If I was production though (which I'm not), I wouldn't risk it. Again, I would be surprised if Hong Kong was visited. Plus, it was just visited in Seasons 27 and 30.

I'm also skeptical of a visit to Japan, but much less so than China. In past seasons, Japan has, for the most part, followed a very nice pattern of being visited every three seasons: Seasons 9, 12, 15, and 18 had Japan, and then again in 20, 23, and 26. I'm actually a little surprised they waited five whole seasons between 26 and 31 for another visit. I know this is a reach, but a visit in 33 would go against the pattern. I do concede that a visit to Japan is much more likely than China. However, I would at least hope that they go to another city besides Tokyo. I would be quite pleased with a first time visit to Kyoto or a return to Osaka.

That being said, I think the most likely candidates are Taiwan and South Korea. Taipei and Seoul are quite capable of hosting legs again, but perhaps we could see new visits to cities like Kaohsiung, Busan, Daegu, Gwangju or Jeju. If I could add a personal note with a touch of analysis, I would also not rule out an exclusive visit to Macau. The only full Macau leg was Season 11, and if you ask me it was not a memorable one. Perhaps we could take a lesson from the Canadian and Australian legs.  :bow:

Thanks for reading! I know it was long, but hopefully thought out and analyzed well! Let me know your opinions on a visit to East Asia!

Hong Kong is safe at this moment
The dispute is not that severe right now

I am leaning towards South Korea especially Seoul has a big airport and other countries have some issue with US

Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on June 26, 2019, 10:20:51 PM
Hey everyone! I'm back for some more analysis  :funny:

I want to talk about a specific region of the world that the Race often visits - East Asia (for clarification, my definition of East Asia includes China, Japan, North & South Korea and Taiwan).

This region of the world is visited frequently. In fact, East Asia has only been skipped a sum total of seven times - it was skipped in Seasons 3, 5, 7, 13, 22, 25 & 32. Especially since it was skipped last season, I think it's definitely up for another visit this time around. However, there are a few things I would like to point out.

Because the United States is currently having some strained relations with Mainland China, I don't think it will be visited. Granted, just because the governments are having some issues doesn't necessarily mean that tourism and such would be affected. That being said, I will be surprised if the Mainland is visited.

Also, there are some protests in Hong Kong right now. I know there is a general consensus of an October/November visit, so conditions could clear up by then. If I was production though (which I'm not), I wouldn't risk it. Again, I would be surprised if Hong Kong was visited. Plus, it was just visited in Seasons 27 and 30.

I'm also skeptical of a visit to Japan, but much less so than China. In past seasons, Japan has, for the most part, followed a very nice pattern of being visited every three seasons: Seasons 9, 12, 15, and 18 had Japan, and then again in 20, 23, and 26. I'm actually a little surprised they waited five whole seasons between 26 and 31 for another visit. I know this is a reach, but a visit in 33 would go against the pattern. I do concede that a visit to Japan is much more likely than China. However, I would at least hope that they go to another city besides Tokyo. I would be quite pleased with a first time visit to Kyoto or a return to Osaka.

That being said, I think the most likely candidates are Taiwan and South Korea. Taipei and Seoul are quite capable of hosting legs again, but perhaps we could see new visits to cities like Kaohsiung, Busan, Daegu, Gwangju or Jeju. If I could add a personal note with a touch of analysis, I would also not rule out an exclusive visit to Macau. The only full Macau leg was Season 11, and if you ask me it was not a memorable one. Perhaps we could take a lesson from the Canadian and Australian legs.  :bow:

Thanks for reading! I know it was long, but hopefully thought out and analyzed well! Let me know your opinions on a visit to East Asia!

Hong Kong is safe at this moment
The dispute is not that severe right now

I am leaning towards South Korea especially Seoul has a big airport and other countries have some issue with US

Agreed. SK is the most likely place they’ll visit. They’ve been there recently but Japan is more even more recent and China/HK are both probably out for political reasons . They’re not going to miss East Asia two seasons in a row.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: zacz on June 27, 2019, 09:28:38 AM
I know its unlikely since season 32 is South America heavy but I've always wanted them to visit the Guianas (Guyana, Suriname and French Guiana), From what I've read they are quite safe to visit. The only reasons I can think of why they have been avoided for so long are that there are very few flights in and out making connections difficult and also the proximity to Venezuela.

One issue I have with modern race legs if that they all take place close to major cities. Even the 'rural' legs are usually under 2 hours from a major city. I understand the reasons (there is much less travelling and legs are relatively more condensed and shorter than in the past due to budget issues) but it really does minimise the possible options within a country. It also increases the chance that when a country is revisited the same big cities are used for legs rather than a smaller locatation. I would love a more rural based race which avoids almost all major cities but I am aware this is completely unrealistic.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 27, 2019, 03:29:11 PM
I know its unlikely since season 32 is South America heavy but I've always wanted them to visit the Guianas (Guyana, Suriname and French Guiana), From what I've read they are quite safe to visit. The only reasons I can think of why they have been avoided for so long are that there are very few flights in and out making connections difficult and also the proximity to Venezuela.

One issue I have with modern race legs if that they all take place close to major cities. Even the 'rural' legs are usually under 2 hours from a major city. I understand the reasons (there is much less travelling and legs are relatively more condensed and shorter than in the past due to budget issues) but it really does minimise the possible options within a country. It also increases the chance that when a country is revisited the same big cities are used for legs rather than a smaller locatation. I would love a more rural based race which avoids almost all major cities but I am aware this is completely unrealistic.

I think these countries in South America are viable, especially in a winter season! I think it’s would definitely be possible, in terms of airports, for us to see something akin to JFK to GEO (Georgetown, Guyana) to PBM (Paramaribo, Suriname) to AMS, as there are nonstop flights between each.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on June 27, 2019, 11:37:59 PM
Has there ever been an Urban South Africa leg? They haven't been there since 7 and both Cape Town and Joburg are gorgeous. Also, they've never been to Nigeria. I'd think that Lagos would be the kind of place they'd like to go. Oceania/Africa heavy is the way to go this time around imo. It's never quite been done before.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 28, 2019, 01:50:59 AM
If memory serves correct I don’t believe so. The urban Harare leg in season 30 was my favorite of all time because it had a genuine urban African leg that showed the average American, “hey, there are skyscrapers and cities in Africa too!” I think it would be totally possible to have, for example, a completely urban Johannesburg leg as leg 1! It would also serve as a great hub to go anywhere else in Southern Africa.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARUSAFan on June 28, 2019, 02:42:57 AM
I hope the producers came across Brannockdevice's analyses.  :cheer:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: naejae91 on June 28, 2019, 03:18:48 AM
Has there ever been an Urban South Africa leg? They haven't been there since 7 and both Cape Town and Joburg are gorgeous. Also, they've never been to Nigeria. I'd think that Lagos would be the kind of place they'd like to go. Oceania/Africa heavy is the way to go this time around imo. It's never quite been done before.


You mean urban Southern Africa leg? Yeah I believe we have couple of these including 11 Maputo, 19 Lilongwe, and 30 Harare leg. Also I believe TAR2 have done something Oceania/Africa or south hemisphere heavy route mainly due to no Europe leg.


Also Re: Leg 1 Johannesburg leg
I think only 1 and 17 we have pre-Leg 3 super early Africa leg in TARUS so yeah it would be interesting to see super early Africa leg again. But then this let me thinking we almost never seen TARUS doing F5/F4 late endgame Africa leg that only done on 10 Morocco which is a F4 NEL visit. I also eager to see (South) Africa in leg 10 and 11 before they back to US for final leg.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 28, 2019, 04:18:37 AM
I hope the producers came across Brannockdevice's analyses.  :cheer:

I do try my best! I can probably do more of these little things when I get the time!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on June 28, 2019, 07:55:08 AM
Has there ever been an Urban South Africa leg? They haven't been there since 7 and both Cape Town and Joburg are gorgeous. Also, they've never been to Nigeria. I'd think that Lagos would be the kind of place they'd like to go. Oceania/Africa heavy is the way to go this time around imo. It's never quite been done before.


You mean urban Southern Africa leg? Yeah I believe we have couple of these including 11 Maputo, 19 Lilongwe, and 30 Harare leg. Also I believe TAR2 have done something Oceania/Africa or south hemisphere heavy route mainly due to no Europe leg.


Also Re: Leg 1 Johannesburg leg
I think only 1 and 17 we have pre-Leg 3 super early Africa leg in TARUS so yeah it would be interesting to see super early Africa leg again. But then this let me thinking we almost never seen TARUS doing F5/F4 late endgame Africa leg that only done on 10 Morocco which is a F4 NEL visit. I also eager to see (South) Africa in leg 10 and 11 before they back to US for final leg.

I mean South Africa as in the country.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: naejae91 on June 28, 2019, 08:37:58 AM
Has there ever been an Urban South Africa leg? They haven't been there since 7 and both Cape Town and Joburg are gorgeous. Also, they've never been to Nigeria. I'd think that Lagos would be the kind of place they'd like to go. Oceania/Africa heavy is the way to go this time around imo. It's never quite been done before.


You mean urban Southern Africa leg? Yeah I believe we have couple of these including 11 Maputo, 19 Lilongwe, and 30 Harare leg. Also I believe TAR2 have done something Oceania/Africa or south hemisphere heavy route mainly due to no Europe leg.


Also Re: Leg 1 Johannesburg leg
I think only 1 and 17 we have pre-Leg 3 super early Africa leg in TARUS so yeah it would be interesting to see super early Africa leg again. But then this let me thinking we almost never seen TARUS doing F5/F4 late endgame Africa leg that only done on 10 Morocco which is a F4 NEL visit. I also eager to see (South) Africa in leg 10 and 11 before they back to US for final leg.

I mean South Africa as in the country.


So we only have 2 and 7 South Africa visit, all happen in early leg of the race. As said before it would be nice to change of pace and would make such unique route by having South Africa (or any general Africa) visit on F5/F4 late endgame stage of the race before back to US.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: BritishTARFan on June 28, 2019, 12:23:43 PM
Has there ever been an Urban South Africa leg? They haven't been there since 7 and both Cape Town and Joburg are gorgeous. Also, they've never been to Nigeria. I'd think that Lagos would be the kind of place they'd like to go. Oceania/Africa heavy is the way to go this time around imo. It's never quite been done before.


You mean urban Southern Africa leg? Yeah I believe we have couple of these including 11 Maputo, 19 Lilongwe, and 30 Harare leg. Also I believe TAR2 have done something Oceania/Africa or south hemisphere heavy route mainly due to no Europe leg.


Also Re: Leg 1 Johannesburg leg
I think only 1 and 17 we have pre-Leg 3 super early Africa leg in TARUS so yeah it would be interesting to see super early Africa leg again. But then this let me thinking we almost never seen TARUS doing F5/F4 late endgame Africa leg that only done on 10 Morocco which is a F4 NEL visit. I also eager to see (South) Africa in leg 10 and 11 before they back to US for final leg.

I mean South Africa as in the country.

There has been a leg in Cape Town, a city.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on June 29, 2019, 07:10:01 AM
There has been a leg in Cape Town, a city.

Yes, it was season 2.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on June 29, 2019, 07:37:15 AM
After I watched the finale of TAR 31, I have reviewed Brannockdevice's analysis on TAR 33:

Oceania: As we had discussed before, Oceania is long overdue that is likely for Season 33 as Australia could be the first international country.

Asia: Singapore is such as undervisited Asian nation as its being famous in Crazy Rich Asians, because tourism has continued popularity the locations such as Gardens by the Bay, CHIJMES and Newton Food Centre are the best places depicted from the novel turned film. Nepal is a long wait for its visit in TAR. Kathmandu has many Hindu temples.

Europe: Bulgaria and Latvia are considered to be overlooked on their individual first visits. Bulgaria is place for worship to see Orthodox churches and monasteries. Latvia has seen in the recent season of The Bachelorette where its episode aired more recently. Bungee Sigulda would be the better place for thrilled bungee seekers. Spain in other hand, like Australia, it is long overdue for a visit as Barcelona is the best Spanish city could be getting visited.

Africa: Same as Brannock's analysis, that could be better for Season 33. South Africa would finally have its chance to visit once again after more than a decade last visited was in Season 7. Like Australia and Spain, it is long overdue.

South America: Since the continent was skipped in Seasons 30 and 31, with three separate countries into three legs last season. It could get a chance to have a penultimate leg in a major South American city: Sao Paulo, Brazil.

That being mentioned above, three new countries to be ever visited in the race, with one from last season and two in Season 31.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 29, 2019, 11:08:48 PM
Great thoughts Claude! I agree with everything, although I am curious - what makes you say Sao Paulo?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: redskevin88 on June 30, 2019, 07:09:34 AM
There has been a leg in Cape Town, a city.

Yes, it was season 2.

Season 7 also visited Soweto.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on June 30, 2019, 08:52:52 AM
Great thoughts Claude! I agree with everything, although I am curious - what makes you say Sao Paulo?

Sao Paulo is being the largest and most populous city of South America. It was visited in TAR 9 and TAR 29. Like Shenzhen (TAR 28), Seoul (TAR 29), Hong Kong (TAR 30), London (TAR 31) and Manila (TAR 32). Every penultimate leg could have hosting a bigger city.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on June 30, 2019, 10:21:23 AM
There has been a leg in Cape Town, a city.

Yes, it was season 2.

Season 7 also visited Soweto.

So it’s been a really long time either way you swing it. Cairo, Lagos, Kinshasa, and Joburg are the biggest metro areas in Africa and they’ve only ever been to two. I understand why they probably don’t want to go to the DRC and Egypt but it’s really crazy they’ve never been to Lagos and it’s been such a long time since they’ve gone to Joburg.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on June 30, 2019, 11:02:02 AM
Jo-burg isn't as safe as it was a few years back. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARFansurvivor on June 30, 2019, 11:08:29 AM
South Africa is such, a good place to go with the Garden Route. Crazy that they, have not done Bloukrans Bridge Bungee Jump yet on the US TAR.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on June 30, 2019, 12:27:50 PM
I really hope there will be at least equal MM/FF ratio this season. In last 3 seasons, we had 5 more MM teams than FF teams!!! Sexist as hell. Also TAR31 & TAR32 all had only 3 females in F6, so I would say they would try to prevent this to happen 3rd season in a row, so cast would consists of stronger FF teams and weaker MM teams like in TAR14/17/25.

Is there some showmance in BB21 who you can see in TAR33? (I quit BB)

Route - Europe, Asia & probably 2 legs in Africa for sure. SA??? Maybe... But I just can't see to Australia/NZ to happen. That continent is boring in producents eyes, too similiar to US.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on June 30, 2019, 12:50:42 PM
But I just can't see to Australia/NZ to happen. That continent is boring in producents eyes, too similiar to US.

Can't be too boring if they are doing a whole TARaus Season! :funny:

So many fun places we could go... I would LOVE a leg both places!!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on June 30, 2019, 02:21:00 PM
But I just can't see to Australia/NZ to happen. That continent is boring in producents eyes, too similiar to US.

Can't be too boring if they are doing a whole TARaus Season! :funny:

So many fun places we could go... I would LOVE a leg both places!!

TARAUS4 is supposed to travel internationally, no? :D

I mean I would love AU/NZ revisit too, but I just think production is over that continent, lol. NZ adventure legs are replaced by Switzerland now, and Australian cities are too similiar to US finale cities.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 30, 2019, 03:54:43 PM
But Australia is still an absolutely massive country. They have yet to visit Uluru, Tasmania, Cable Beach or Kangaroo Island. Plus there are still major Australian cities that have yet to be visited (Melbourne, Adelaide, Canberra, etc).

And correct me if I’m wrong, but we’ve never had a completely urban Auckland leg, right?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on June 30, 2019, 04:03:52 PM
What's the airport situation like in Australia? I know Sydney has a huge airport but logistically I could see them having a hard time getting other places. Australia is so big and no one lives in the interior.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: BourkieBoy on June 30, 2019, 06:14:46 PM
What's the airport situation like in Australia? I know Sydney has a huge airport but logistically I could see them having a hard time getting other places. Australia is so big and no one lives in the interior.

Sydney and Melbourne are the main airports in Australia. From these two hubs, they can connect to more remote places in Australia!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on June 30, 2019, 06:19:55 PM
What's the airport situation like in Australia? I know Sydney has a huge airport but logistically I could see them having a hard time getting other places. Australia is so big and no one lives in the interior.

Sydney and Melbourne are the main airports in Australia. From these two hubs, they can connect to more remote places in Australia!

Can they easily get to outside Australia tho?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on June 30, 2019, 06:44:17 PM
What's the airport situation like in Australia? I know Sydney has a huge airport but logistically I could see them having a hard time getting other places. Australia is so big and no one lives in the interior.

Sydney and Melbourne are the main airports in Australia. From these two hubs, they can connect to more remote places in Australia!

Can they easily get to outside Australia tho?


Yes.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: zacz on July 01, 2019, 05:13:44 AM
What's the airport situation like in Australia? I know Sydney has a huge airport but logistically I could see them having a hard time getting other places. Australia is so big and no one lives in the interior.

Sydney and Melbourne are the main airports in Australia. From these two hubs, they can connect to more remote places in Australia!

Can they easily get to outside Australia tho?

Yes many flight to Asia especially
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 01, 2019, 01:53:17 PM
Both Alice Springs and Uluru airports have nonstop flights to Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane, which all have connections to Asia and the U.S.!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on July 01, 2019, 09:13:01 PM
Leg 1: LA  to Busan, SK
Leg 2: Busan to Taipei, Taiwan
Leg 3: Taipei to Singapore
Leg 3: Singapore to Malaysia (No flight)
Leg 4: Malaysia to Melbourne
Leg 5: Melbourne to Perth
Leg 6: Perth to Cape Town, SA
Leg 7: Rural SA leg
Leg 8: Cape Town to Lagos, Nigeria
Leg 9: Lagos to  Madrid, Spain
Leg 10: Madrid to Lisbon, Portugal
Leg 11: Lisbon to San Juan, Costa Rica
Leg 12: San Juan to Nashville, TN

I was thinking something like this but Perth to Cape Town is 13 hours. Lol now I know why they haven't been to Oceania in a while, it's a long trip no matter where you come from. 
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on July 01, 2019, 10:14:55 PM
Both Alice Springs and Uluru airports have nonstop flights to Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane, which all have connections to Asia and the U.S.!

Apollo Bay, Ballarat, Bendigo, Great Otway, Healesville, Queenscliff, Port Campbell and Yering are fairly remote just located outside Melbourne.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 02, 2019, 12:09:10 AM
Both Alice Springs and Uluru airports have nonstop flights to Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane, which all have connections to Asia and the U.S.!

Apollo Bay, Ballarat, Bendigo, Great Otway, Healesville, Queenscliff, Port Campbell and Yering are fairly remote just located outside Melbourne.

If I remember correctly, every visit to Australia has had 1 urban and 1 rural leg...

Sydney and Coober Pedy in Season 2
Brisbane and rural north Queensland in Seasaon 4
Perth and Arnhem Land in Season 9
Sydney and Broken Hill in Season 18

With what you're saying Claude, a leg on the Great Ocean Road could make a great second leg in Australia after a potential urban Melbourne leg!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: BourkieBoy on July 02, 2019, 01:01:36 AM
Both Alice Springs and Uluru airports have nonstop flights to Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane, which all have connections to Asia and the U.S.!

Apollo Bay, Ballarat, Bendigo, Great Otway, Healesville, Queenscliff, Port Campbell and Yering are fairly remote just located outside Melbourne.

The only problem here, is that these cities aren't big enough to host TAR legs!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 02, 2019, 01:25:13 AM
True, but multiple small towns could be used in sequence!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cbacbacba1 on July 02, 2019, 04:17:56 AM
Both Alice Springs and Uluru airports have nonstop flights to Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane, which all have connections to Asia and the U.S.!

Apollo Bay, Ballarat, Bendigo, Great Otway, Healesville, Queenscliff, Port Campbell and Yering are fairly remote just located outside Melbourne.

The only problem here, is that these cities aren't big enough to host TAR legs!
A self-driving leg along the Great Ocean Road seems possible
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: zacz on July 02, 2019, 07:59:15 AM
Both Alice Springs and Uluru airports have nonstop flights to Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane, which all have connections to Asia and the U.S.!

Apollo Bay, Ballarat, Bendigo, Great Otway, Healesville, Queenscliff, Port Campbell and Yering are fairly remote just located outside Melbourne.

The only problem here, is that these cities aren't big enough to host TAR legs!

Why would they be too small for a more rural based leg? The tasks can be out in the surrounding countryside. They have used much smaller places in previous seasons. Plus the whole leg could be based on a selfdriving trip with tasks along the way with the town centre as the pitstop.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Malcooolm on July 02, 2019, 03:09:25 PM
So since 31/32 had a combined total of one African leg, I’m betting that we’re getting several for 33
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 02, 2019, 04:36:33 PM
So since 31/32 had a combined total of one African leg, I’m betting that we’re getting several for 33

I definitely agree. If memory serves correctly, only Seasons 1, 5, 7, 10, and 30 had three legs in Africa. Perhaps we could see something similar? I wonder if 4 African legs would be out of the question? Fingers crossed!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on July 03, 2019, 12:09:38 AM
So since 31/32 had a combined total of one African leg, I’m betting that we’re getting several for 33

I definitely agree. If memory serves correctly, only Seasons 1, 5, 7, 10, and 30 had three legs in Africa. Perhaps we could see something similar? I wonder if 4 African legs would be out of the question? Fingers crossed!

Season 32 will not visit Africa as we never had 4 consecutive Africa legs before. IN MY OPINION>
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on July 03, 2019, 06:42:18 AM
Is this the first time they’ve filmed two consecutive seasons the same time of year? 32 is pretty South America/ SE Asia heavy bc of it being filmed in the US’s fall. They need to do something different. Afaik the only reason they didn’t film a season this spring/summer is that 32 was rough on the production team and they wanted a break. That may be wrong but I think Phil said it was three weeks in before they even slept in a bed.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on July 03, 2019, 07:41:32 AM
Honest speculation on possible routes is okay.

But lets not turn this into a wishlist thread please? We have another place for that.

Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cbacbacba1 on July 03, 2019, 09:43:23 AM
Is this the first time they’ve filmed two consecutive seasons the same time of year? 32 is pretty South America/ SE Asia heavy bc of it being filmed in the US’s fall. They need to do something different. Afaik the only reason they didn’t film a season this spring/summer is that 32 was rough on the production team and they wanted a break. That may be wrong but I think Phil said it was three weeks in before they even slept in a bed.
I remember Phil saying 32 was one of the toughest season for them to film.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on July 03, 2019, 10:06:17 AM
Is this the first time they’ve filmed two consecutive seasons the same time of year? 32 is pretty South America/ SE Asia heavy bc of it being filmed in the US’s fall. They need to do something different. Afaik the only reason they didn’t film a season this spring/summer is that 32 was rough on the production team and they wanted a break. That may be wrong but I think Phil said it was three weeks in before they even slept in a bed.
I remember Phil saying 32 was one of the toughest season for them to film.

He said it was tied with 3 for toughest.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 03, 2019, 08:56:57 PM
So since 31/32 had a combined total of one African leg, I’m betting that we’re getting several for 33

I definitely agree. If memory serves correctly, only Seasons 1, 5, 7, 10, and 30 had three legs in Africa. Perhaps we could see something similar? I wonder if 4 African legs would be out of the question? Fingers crossed!

Season 32 will not visit Africa as we never had 4 consecutive Africa legs before. IN MY OPINION>

What do you mean by this?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Karpov617 on July 05, 2019, 02:53:33 AM
Is this the first time they’ve filmed two consecutive seasons the same time of year? 32 is pretty South America/ SE Asia heavy bc of it being filmed in the US’s fall. They need to do something different. Afaik the only reason they didn’t film a season this spring/summer is that 32 was rough on the production team and they wanted a break. That may be wrong but I think Phil said it was three weeks in before they even slept in a bed.
I remember Phil saying 32 was one of the toughest season for them to film.

He said it was tied with 3 for toughest.

He did say that on his podcast when Rob & Brennan were guesting. I wonder why it was so taxing on the production crew...
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on July 05, 2019, 07:09:52 AM
Please keep any 32 discussion in THAT thread. This is for 33 only.

Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 05, 2019, 07:40:38 PM
I think if there was ever a season to have 4 African legs, it’s Season 33. There are plenty of different possible “themes” for legs, such as a desert leg (Namibia, Botswana, Tunisia, Morocco), safari leg (Maasai Mara, Kruger, etc), metropolis leg (Johannesburg, Lagos, Nairobi, Cairo), coastal leg (Cape Town, Mombasa, Alexandria), Island paradise leg (Seychelles, Mauritius, Madagascar, Comoros) as well as plenty of new countries (Rwanda, Angola, São Tomé and Príncipe, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Algeria, Cape Verde).

To sum it up, I believe if there is any continent that has lots of potential, it’s Africa.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on July 05, 2019, 08:49:49 PM
I think if there was ever a season to have 4 African legs, it’s Season 33. There are plenty of different possible “themes” for legs, such as a desert leg (Namibia, Botswana, Tunisia, Morocco), safari leg (Maasai Mara, Kruger, etc), metropolis leg (Johannesburg, Lagos, Nairobi, Cairo), coastal leg (Cape Town, Mombasa, Alexandria), Island paradise leg (Seychelles, Mauritius, Madagascar, Comoros) as well as plenty of new countries (Rwanda, Angola, São Tomé and Príncipe, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Algeria, Cape Verde).

To sum it up, I believe if there is any continent that has lots of  :amen:potential, it’s Africa.

I agree with everything but Cairo. No one is going back to Egypt anytime soon because of the political situation
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARUSAFan on July 05, 2019, 09:32:55 PM
I think if there was ever a season to have 4 African legs, it’s Season 33. There are plenty of different possible “themes” for legs, such as a desert leg (Namibia, Botswana, Tunisia, Morocco), safari leg (Maasai Mara, Kruger, etc), metropolis leg (Johannesburg, Lagos, Nairobi, Cairo), coastal leg (Cape Town, Mombasa, Alexandria), Island paradise leg (Seychelles, Mauritius, Madagascar, Comoros) as well as plenty of new countries (Rwanda, Angola, São Tomé and Príncipe, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Algeria, Cape Verde).

To sum it up, I believe if there is any continent that has lots of potential, it’s Africa.


I'd love a revisit to what they have dubbed "The most beautiful city in the world" Cape Town, South Africa.
Also, Mauritius, dubbed "Africa's Playground". I read an article where Elise Doganieri was asked "What’s The Most Beautiful Place You Have Ever Shot The Amazing Race?" Elise answered:

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The first places that comes to mind is Mauritius, it was an unexpected surprise. When I got there it was so tropical and beautiful with white sand beaches and beautiful sail boats and a lot of incredible history, I was kind of blown away by it.

I'm looking forward to 1st Time visits to Cape Verde, Rwanda, Algeria.
A proper visit to Kenya must be made and not just a simple connection which was done in S.5

Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on July 07, 2019, 12:55:42 PM
Do you guys think Tunisia is stable enough for them to visit now? It's been five years since they got a new constitution.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 07, 2019, 03:03:18 PM
According to the U.S. state department, Tunisia is currently listed as a Level 2 Advisory: Exercise Increased Caution (to put that into perspective, Level 1 is the safest and Level 4 is the most dangerous). Some parts of Tunisia are obviously worth avoiding, but I think a leg in Tunis should be fine.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on July 07, 2019, 04:52:00 PM
Seems like level 2 is their cutoff. Eyeballing it the only current 3 where they've ever been is Turkey and it probably wasn't when they went there. Nigeria, where I want them to go, is a 3 but there's no warning for Lagos. There's plenty of other West African countries in the 1 & 2 levels they've never been to : Equatorial Guinea, Guinea, Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone,  Angola,  Gabon,  Benin,  Togo, or Liberia .

They could go to SA, Kenya,  and two of those and get 4 Africa legs easy.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on July 07, 2019, 05:30:49 PM
There's plenty of other West African countries in the 1 & 2 levels they've never been to : Equatorial Guinea, Guinea, Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone,  Angola,  Gabon,  Benin,  Togo, or Liberia .

They could go to SA, Kenya,  and two of those and get 4 Africa legs easy.

I really want them to visit West Africa again too... They were there for season 6, 12 & 17 and these are my favorite legs.

The biggest problem with countries you named it's logistic, I think. They want to have season filmed asap, and it take some time to get to and out from these small countries in Africa.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on July 07, 2019, 09:32:29 PM
There's plenty of other West African countries in the 1 & 2 levels they've never been to : Equatorial Guinea, Guinea, Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone,  Angola,  Gabon,  Benin,  Togo, or Liberia .

They could go to SA, Kenya,  and two of those and get 4 Africa legs easy.

I really want them to visit West Africa again too... They were there for season 6, 12 & 17 and these are my favorite legs.

The biggest problem with countries you named it's logistic, I think. They want to have season filmed asap, and it take some time to get to and out from these small countries in Africa.

Fair point. From about a three minute google search, looks like they'd have to go through Lagos to get to the smaller countries.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 08, 2019, 12:16:48 AM
There's plenty of other West African countries in the 1 & 2 levels they've never been to : Equatorial Guinea, Guinea, Ivory Coast, Sierra Leone,  Angola,  Gabon,  Benin,  Togo, or Liberia .

They could go to SA, Kenya,  and two of those and get 4 Africa legs easy.

I really want them to visit West Africa again too... They were there for season 6, 12 & 17 and these are my favorite legs.

The biggest problem with countries you named it's logistic, I think. They want to have season filmed asap, and it take some time to get to and out from these small countries in Africa.

You'd be surprised. Most West African countries have decent connections; on Air France, teams may fly nonstop (from CDG) to Mauritania, Senegal, Guinea, Sierra Leone, Cote d'Ivoire, Ghana, Togo, Benin, Nigeria, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea and Gabon. Also, Sao Tome and Principe can be reached via Lisbon on TAP Air Portugal.

However, all of this is not to say that a visit to West Africa is foreseeable. For example, the Ebola crisis has long since left this part of Africa, but production might think twice about visiting some of the countries that were hardest struck - Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia. Also, countries like Cote d'Ivoire and Guinea-Bissau are not quite safe at the moment (depending on area of course).

All of this being said though, my unprofessional opinion is telling me that a West African visit would be incredibly welcome and quite awesome!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Parovic on July 08, 2019, 12:25:20 PM
So since 31/32 had a combined total of one African leg, I’m betting that we’re getting several for 33

I definitely agree. If memory serves correctly, only Seasons 1, 5, 7, 10, and 30 had three legs in Africa. Perhaps we could see something similar? I wonder if 4 African legs would be out of the question? Fingers crossed!

It’s hard to have 4 legs in Africa especially some of the African nations are not politically stable
Look at S11, the airport scrambling is a hot mess
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Parovic on July 08, 2019, 12:27:44 PM
I actually can see the race is going west to Asia first
Just like S31 I speculate South Korea and Taiwan as the top 2 contenders
Maybe there are some overdue countries in East Asia typically Mongolia

New countries in Central Asia and Eastern Europe can be expected
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 08, 2019, 04:49:52 PM
I’m not sure I’m in agreement. Depending on when specifically filming will begin, we will likely see a (Northern hemisphere) winter race. As such, Mongolia, Central Asia, and Eastern Europe are unlikely to be visited as winters can be brutal. Even South Korean winters can be rough (remember the ice plunge in Season 4?).
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cbacbacba1 on July 08, 2019, 07:08:05 PM
I’m not sure I’m in agreement. Depending on when specifically filming will begin, we will likely see a (Northern hemisphere) winter race. As such, Mongolia, Central Asia, and Eastern Europe are unlikely to be visited as winters can be brutal. Even South Korean winters can be rough (remember the ice plunge in Season 4?).
32 did visit Kazakhstan during Winter, also did 14's visit to Siberia.

Though I believe production would prefer warmer winter for filming. That say Taiwan or Southern China being highly possible.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: elthemagnifico on July 08, 2019, 08:01:29 PM
I’m not sure I’m in agreement. Depending on when specifically filming will begin, we will likely see a (Northern hemisphere) winter race. As such, Mongolia, Central Asia, and Eastern Europe are unlikely to be visited as winters can be brutal. Even South Korean winters can be rough (remember the ice plunge in Season 4?).
32 did visit Kazakhstan during Winter, also did 14's visit to Siberia.

Though I believe production would prefer warmer winter for filming. That say Taiwan or Southern China being highly possible.

doesn't china have conflict with usa, especially on trade war?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Genius on July 09, 2019, 01:52:37 AM
So since 31/32 had a combined total of one African leg, I’m betting that we’re getting several for 33

I definitely agree. If memory serves correctly, only Seasons 1, 5, 7, 10, and 30 had three legs in Africa. Perhaps we could see something similar? I wonder if 4 African legs would be out of the question? Fingers crossed!

It’s hard to have 4 legs in Africa especially some of the African nations are not politically stable
Look at S11, the airport scrambling is a hot mess

I lowkey liked the airport scramble/mess that ensued. Anyway it was production's fault for choosing to fly during Ramadan.


Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 09, 2019, 02:48:09 AM
I’m not sure I’m in agreement. Depending on when specifically filming will begin, we will likely see a (Northern hemisphere) winter race. As such, Mongolia, Central Asia, and Eastern Europe are unlikely to be visited as winters can be brutal. Even South Korean winters can be rough (remember the ice plunge in Season 4?).
32 did visit Kazakhstan during Winter, also did 14's visit to Siberia.

Though I believe production would prefer warmer winter for filming. That say Taiwan or Southern China being highly possible.

That's true. There have been plenty of snowy legs (mostly in German-speaking Central Europe if I can recall). After all, it would be hard to film an entire season in just the southern hemisphere and other warmer climates. That being said, I just think the locations listed above will probably be absent next season.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on July 13, 2019, 12:28:25 PM
It’d be interesting if they did the obligatory snowy leg(s) in Canada. Haven’t done that in a while
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Malcooolm on July 15, 2019, 01:00:49 PM
It’d be interesting if they did the obligatory snowy leg(s) in Canada. Haven’t done that in a while
I'd love to actually have an entire leg in Canada
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARFansurvivor on July 15, 2019, 01:06:30 PM
I think that Spain could be a possiblity this Season, they have not been there in awile. And there is so many amazing places, they could go North of Spain, Madrid and South of Spain. Could also be amazing with Andora and Gibraltar.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARFansurvivor on July 15, 2019, 01:08:47 PM
It’d be interesting if they did the obligatory snowy leg(s) in Canada. Haven’t done that in a while
I'd love to actually have an entire leg in Canada
Yes can't belive that They have not done, that yet. Please go to Vancouver.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on July 16, 2019, 11:47:25 AM
They could go to Montreal to get a French speaking city in that’s not actually in France to mix it up a bit.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 17, 2019, 12:58:08 AM
They could go to Montreal to get a French speaking city in that’s not actually in France to mix it up a bit.

I think Quebec City would be a much better location for this, but I wholeheartedly agree with you!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Charity00 on July 18, 2019, 08:03:15 AM
So what are the most likely starting or finish line cities in TAR33?

Assuming it will finish around December, every winter season in the last 20 seasons has finished in a warmer city except Washington DC in TAR22. So I assume the finale would likely be in either California, Florida, Texas, Hawaii, Las Vegas or Phoenix? We haven’t had finales in Hawaii, Miami or Phoenix for a while and we’ve never had visits to San Diego, Houston or Orlando. Or they could just do the obvious Los Angeles again haha

I would love for them to do a big bold starting line location such as TAR 25 Times Square or even TAR 27 Venice Beach. Possible starting lines could be Hollywood Boulevard, Los Angeles (with a starting line challenge where they have to photograph a certain star), Fremont Street, Las Vegas (at night with the canopy light show) or Miami Beach/Daytona Beach, Florida. Or it could just be a random park in LA.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Nuku on July 19, 2019, 07:10:54 AM
They could go to Montreal to get a French speaking city in that’s not actually in France to mix it up a bit.

I think Quebec City would be a much better location for this, but I wholeheartedly agree with you!

Although in Quebec, Montreal is still a very English city. Quebec City is the best place to go for a french canadian leg it is pretty much 100% french.

I would love for them to do a big bold starting line location such as TAR 25 Times Square or even TAR 27 Venice Beach. Possible starting lines could be Hollywood Boulevard, Los Angeles (with a starting line challenge where they have to photograph a certain star), Fremont Street, Las Vegas (at night with the canopy light show) or Miami Beach/Daytona Beach, Florida. Or it could just be a random park in LA.

A great live start in LA would be LA Live! Its a great downtown location I've used for fan fics and considering they used times square it could be very likely.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: beyonddbreak1 on July 19, 2019, 12:04:17 PM
So what are the most likely starting or finish line cities in TAR33?

Assuming it will finish around December, every winter season in the last 20 seasons has finished in a warmer city except Washington DC in TAR22. So I assume the finale would likely be in either California, Florida, Texas, Hawaii, Las Vegas or Phoenix? We haven’t had finales in Hawaii, Miami or Phoenix for a while and we’ve never had visits to San Diego, Houston or Orlando. Or they could just do the obvious Los Angeles again haha

I would love for them to do a big bold starting line location such as TAR 25 Times Square or even TAR 27 Venice Beach. Possible starting lines could be Hollywood Boulevard, Los Angeles (with a starting line challenge where they have to photograph a certain star), Fremont Street, Las Vegas (at night with the canopy light show) or Miami Beach/Daytona Beach, Florida. Or it could just be a random park in LA.

I've been hoping for a San Diego start and SLC finish!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: stunami on July 19, 2019, 01:05:32 PM
They could go to Montreal to get a French speaking city in that’s not actually in France to mix it up a bit.

I think Quebec City would be a much better location for this, but I wholeheartedly agree with you!

Although in Quebec, Montreal is still a very English city. Quebec City is the best place to go for a french canadian leg it is pretty much 100% french.

I would love for them to do a big bold starting line location such as TAR 25 Times Square or even TAR 27 Venice Beach. Possible starting lines could be Hollywood Boulevard, Los Angeles (with a starting line challenge where they have to photograph a certain star), Fremont Street, Las Vegas (at night with the canopy light show) or Miami Beach/Daytona Beach, Florida. Or it could just be a random park in LA.

A great live start in LA would be LA Live! Its a great downtown location I've used for fan fics and considering they used times square it could be very likely.

Sometimes when I'm bored, I write fantasy routes, and I often start my 'race' in Burlington, Vermont, with teams going to my province of Quebec. I agree for the US point of view, Quebec city would be more interesting because it's more french (language problem) and it's prettier in my opinion. (The old Quebec looks like Europe)

I have teams do a Ben & Jerry ice cream task as a starting line task (well they would start at the Boardwalk around Lake Champlain, and then drive 25 mins to the Ben and Jerry Ice cream factory in Waterbury).

Then make them drive to Montreal or Quebec. It would add an interesting dynamic for them to have a self-drive first leg. It's a good drive to Quebec (4hours). So if that's too complicated, then maybe do 3 shuttle bus at the Ben and Jerry factory where teams have to sign in for 3 different buses. Plus, it would be hard for us to track them. (and cheaper then buying flights)

For a Montreal leg, I would have them stop at Fort de Chambly on the way, where they could do a New England/English Colony kind of task, and then the rest of the leg in Montreal.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on July 19, 2019, 03:49:02 PM
I do like the discussion of Quebec, but in terms of Season 33, I think it’s out of the question, only because of timing. Quebec has some of the worst winters in Canada so I think it will definitely be absent in a winter season.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on July 21, 2019, 04:54:39 PM
I do like the discussion of Quebec, but in terms of Season 33, I think it’s out of the question, only because of timing. Quebec has some of the worst winters in Canada so I think it will definitely be absent in a winter season.

Probably won't be too bad if they're there in October or November
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: BaachNation on July 21, 2019, 10:03:39 PM
You guys really don't think they'll have a leg through Africa? It makes some of the best content imo.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on July 22, 2019, 08:32:10 AM
You guys really don't think they'll have a leg through Africa? It makes some of the best content imo.

I think they will bc they’re filming it in the fall and they didn’t go there in 32.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on August 11, 2019, 05:48:18 PM
So are we sure this will be filming in october/november and not sooner, GP?

They updated their casting page and TAR34 is supposed to film in late february. Isn't it too close? 3 or 4 months between TAR33 & TAR34 filming.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on August 11, 2019, 08:41:11 PM
So are we sure this will be filming in october/november and not sooner, GP?

They updated their casting page and TAR34 is supposed to film in late february. Isn't it too close? 3 or 4 months between TAR33 & TAR34 filming.

NO. The casting site was updated ABOUT 33.

So all the info there including filming dates is for 33 not 34.

Not sure why things were pushed back...or if the earlier info was just incorrect. They are also working on Journey... so.

At the moment this is what we have...and happy for it!

Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on August 11, 2019, 10:32:27 PM
NO. The casting site was updated ABOUT 33.

So all the info there including filming dates is for 33 not 34.

Not sure why things were pushed back...or if the earlier info was just incorrect. They are also working on Journey... so.

At the moment this is what we have...and happy for it!

It has believed that I saw the post from the casting application thread that the filming date for TAR 33 has been pushed back once again? I am in sarcasm right now  :carryon:

Perhaps a winter filming date could be unlikely for this?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on August 12, 2019, 04:38:03 AM
So are we sure this will be filming in october/november and not sooner, GP?

They updated their casting page and TAR34 is supposed to film in late february. Isn't it too close? 3 or 4 months between TAR33 & TAR34 filming.

NO. The casting site was updated ABOUT 33.

So all the info there including filming dates is for 33 not 34.

Not sure why things were pushed back...or if the earlier info was just incorrect. They are also working on Journey... so.

At the moment this is what we have...and happy for it!

Well, these are not good news. The original site said summer 2019 and now it's late february 2020. I wonder if this season will be even filmed sometimes...
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TheRabbi on August 12, 2019, 06:34:58 AM
I think they wanted to have 2 seasons available for this past season. If they had initially considered plugging 31 into the same January-Feb slot, then 32 could have possibly aired this summer, and 33 would need to be filmed. Since they only ended up using 1 season for this past year, 32 remains in the can for the next TV season, thereby eliminating the need to film 33 so soon. It prevents the cast of 33 from having to wait like 2 years for it to air at least!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Mandoli on August 12, 2019, 12:32:59 PM
I wonder if this season will be even filmed sometimes...

Peach said that Journey's being worked on right now, and that's probably why everything for 33 was pushed into 2020. Perhaps all of the attention is being focused on Journey? Nothing to worry about regarding TAR.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on August 13, 2019, 01:10:24 AM
I wonder if this season will be even filmed sometimes...

Peach said that Journey's being worked on right now, and that's probably why everything for 33 was pushed into 2020. Perhaps all of the attention is being focused on Journey? Nothing to worry about regarding TAR.

The problem the year 2019 would be the first since 2001 that the original American Race has not being filmed or in-production within the entire year. As January-February filming date could be otherwise in the scheduled dates that would be the first season to film in winter in 16 years (TAR 5 filmed in January-February 2004).
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Mandoli on August 13, 2019, 11:30:32 AM
The problem the year 2019 would be the first since 2001 that the original American Race has not yet being filmed or in-production.

Honestly, I don't see a problem when the production team has another show. Let them worry about what they're working on right now, because there's how many seasons of TAR in the can? You don't want too many TAR seasons being filmed and just collecting dust.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on August 15, 2019, 11:10:21 PM
Now that filming has been pushed to January/February, I would suppose we would have a pretty serious winter season. I wouldn't be surprised by an overload of Central/South America, Africa, Middle East, Southeast and South Asia, and Oceania. If you ask me we might only see 1 or 2 legs in Europe.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Zack. on August 16, 2019, 04:33:48 PM
Thinking about it, a 2020 filming might allow for production to sneak in an Olympic motif like in TAR6 (filmed in 2004) and TAR14 (filmed in 2008); whether that translates to tasks or actual locations who knows.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: elthemagnifico on August 16, 2019, 04:58:36 PM
it could be interesting to see another olympic themed race for the 2020 summer olympic.... they haven't done olympic based race since 2012 tho but let's see what happen...

if they are gonna do ar olympic game it will be between TAR 14 esque (which they will visit to Japan again... which i don't like the idea of revisiting japan again ) or they could go to former olympic host countries there and do some tasks about olympic.. which we will get more europe/asia countries than other continents' (mostly europe) for the route (winter olympic based race counts too)
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: dryedmangoez on August 17, 2019, 12:45:55 AM
it could be interesting to see another olympic themed race for the 2020 summer olympic.... they haven't done olympic based race since 2012 tho but let's see what happen...

if they are gonna do ar olympic game it will be between TAR 14 esque (which they will visit to Japan again... which i don't like the idea of revisiting japan again ) or they could go to former olympic host countries there and do some tasks about olympic.. which we will get more europe/asia countries than other continents' (mostly europe) for the route (winter olympic based race counts too)

TAR China 3 was an Olympic themed Race too.

Starting Line in LA of course, but possible Finish Lines in Olympic cities of St. Louis, Atlanta, Salt Lake City and would be interesting in Lake Placid or Squaw Valley/Lake Tahoe.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on August 17, 2019, 01:35:18 AM
Now that filming has been pushed to January/February, I would suppose we would have a pretty serious winter season. I wouldn't be surprised by an overload of Central/South America, Africa, Middle East, Southeast and South Asia, and Oceania. If you ask me we might only see 1 or 2 legs in Europe.

That could be great in a Southern summer season with mostly warm/humid/barely mild locations with some colder locations in winter.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: toanglobal on August 18, 2019, 10:40:35 PM
Please cast more intelligent  F/F teams, TAR 25 is the only season in HD era with more F/F teams than M/M teams, and the producer should bring Intersection back as well as phase out Head to head task or at least not use it to elimination purpose!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Mandoli on August 19, 2019, 09:10:15 AM
... phase out Head to head task or at least not use it to elimination purpose!

Regarding that: Let's speculate on if this is coming back. Probably, but would production put one in during the middle of a leg? It would actually make more sense to do it then, only because it would be a good "can they come back from this" story. Doubt it would happen, though.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: dryedmangoez on August 19, 2019, 11:41:31 AM
... phase out Head to head task or at least not use it to elimination purpose!

Regarding that: Let's speculate on if this is coming back. Probably, but would production put one in during the middle of a leg? It would actually make more sense to do it then, only because it would be a good "can they come back from this" story. Doubt it would happen, though.
In an interview before TAR31's premiere and obviously after TAR32 was filmed, Phil was asked this and he basically said he doesn't see a difference whether or not it is placed at the end. So if it returns, I doubt they'd change it. Unfortunately.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on August 19, 2019, 11:56:02 AM
If someone writes me up a NICE summary of why it absolutely matters, I'll forward it to BVM, Phil, Pat etc.  }:>
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: BourkieBoy on August 19, 2019, 05:17:33 PM
With the return of TAR Australia, Australia could have a reasonable chance of being visited by TAR33, one might think?

Early autumn is great weather to film in Australia!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: toanglobal on August 19, 2019, 08:34:01 PM
... phase out Head to head task or at least not use it to elimination purpose!

Regarding that: Let's speculate on if this is coming back. Probably, but would production put one in during the middle of a leg? It would actually make more sense to do it then, only because it would be a good "can they come back from this" story. Doubt it would happen, though.
Face-offs (head to head) were successful in Israel versions but failed in other versions because TARI's leg structure was longer (from season 2 to 6 each leg is usually covered in 3 episodes some in 4 episodes)
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on August 19, 2019, 11:23:25 PM
I know this isn't much to go on, but it seems like production has recently chosen finales in cities that have either never been visited or have only been visited once. New Orleans in 32, Detroit in 31, San Francisco in 30, Chicago in 29, Dallas in 26. I think it might be reasonable to expect something similar from 33. Given that filming will be in winter, I think we can rule out cities with cold weather - Minneapolis, Boston, etc. Maybe we could expect something along the lines of San Diego, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Tampa, Jacksonville or Charlotte? Or if the stick with a 'usual' state, maybe they could spice it up; if they end in Hawaii maybe they could visit an island we've never seen or have seen only once (Lanai, Kauai, Big Island, etc) instead of the typical Honolulu finish line. If they insist on ending in the greater Los Angeles area maybe they could go to a new part of it - maybe coastal Orange County, Malibu, Oxnard or the Channel Islands!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on August 20, 2019, 05:50:36 AM
I know this isn't much to go on, but it seems like production has recently chosen finales in cities that have either never been visited or have only been visited once. New Orleans in 32, Detroit in 31, San Francisco in 30, Chicago in 29, Dallas in 26. I think it might be reasonable to expect something similar from 33. Given that filming will be in winter, I think we can rule out cities with cold weather - Minneapolis, Boston, etc. Maybe we could expect something along the lines of San Diego, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Tampa, Jacksonville or Charlotte? Or if the stick with a 'usual' state, maybe they could spice it up; if they end in Hawaii maybe they could visit an island we've never seen or have seen only once (Lanai, Kauai, Big Island, etc) instead of the typical Honolulu finish line. If they insist on ending in the greater Los Angeles area maybe they could go to a new part of it - maybe coastal Orange County, Malibu, Oxnard or the Channel Islands!

Nashville could be a better option for a final city that houses the origins of country music. Or in other words, Phoenix could be an another choice for a final city to prevent from a coldness to strive within being located on a desert area which is more humid and less chill in winter.

JMO
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Zack. on August 20, 2019, 11:35:25 PM
I know this isn't much to go on, but it seems like production has recently chosen finales in cities that have either never been visited or have only been visited once. New Orleans in 32, Detroit in 31, San Francisco in 30, Chicago in 29, Dallas in 26. I think it might be reasonable to expect something similar from 33. Given that filming will be in winter, I think we can rule out cities with cold weather - Minneapolis, Boston, etc. Maybe we could expect something along the lines of San Diego, Houston, Austin, San Antonio, Tampa, Jacksonville or Charlotte? Or if the stick with a 'usual' state, maybe they could spice it up; if they end in Hawaii maybe they could visit an island we've never seen or have seen only once (Lanai, Kauai, Big Island, etc) instead of the typical Honolulu finish line. If they insist on ending in the greater Los Angeles area maybe they could go to a new part of it - maybe coastal Orange County, Malibu, Oxnard or the Channel Islands!

If anything I feel like they might lean into it being a winter season; I wouldn't be shocked if the final flight goes from East Asia to SEA in order to get teams close to Rainier for a mountainside finish.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on September 27, 2019, 10:02:20 AM
The guy who casted Big Brother announced he will start casting TAR33 soon and all the replies were about people asking him to cast random BB people on TAR33.  :groan:

https://twitter.com/AndySloanTV/status/1176282104843264000?s=19

Do we have any more info about TAR33 except the supposed filming dates in late february 2020? Is it looking like normal or gimmick season right now, georgiapeach?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Xoruz on September 27, 2019, 11:37:21 AM
The guy who casted Big Brother announced he will start casting TAR33 soon and all the replies were about people asking him to cast random BB people on TAR33.  :groan:

https://twitter.com/AndySloanTV/status/1176282104843264000?s=19


Another new TAR casting producer from Survivor & BB replied to everyone recommending BB showmances saying that casting has no say over adding teams from other reality shows and that it is CBS's call.

https://twitter.com/AlexSternGirl/status/1176279184135446528
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on September 27, 2019, 01:04:22 PM
Thanks Xoruz.

That girl is from Big Brother casting team as well... I remember her being proud for casting Matt & Elena for BB19 (one of the worst casting choices that season) and stating she never watched previous BB seasons before. Pretty sure that girl is not very familiar with TAR either...

I don't get it. Is CBS trying something "different" by hiring casting agents from BB? Is Lynne Spillman still in charge or they replaced her by Robyn Kass?


Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: jb542 on September 27, 2019, 02:31:53 PM
Someone else from BB will also be helping with TAR's casting. This person is the one who recruits BB HG's on instagram
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Plaidmoon on September 27, 2019, 08:11:07 PM
I remember hearing during the filming of TAR 31 or TAR 32 that Lynne Spillman had been relieved of her TAR casting duties and whichever season that was would the last one where she was involved withe the TAR casting (since it had already been done).
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Leafsfan on September 27, 2019, 09:13:36 PM
I remember hearing during the filming of TAR 31 or TAR 32 that Lynne Spillman had been relieved of her TAR casting duties and whichever season that was would the last one where she was involved withe the TAR casting (since it had already been done).

She was relived of her duties for Survivor. Not for TAR, afaik.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Plaidmoon on September 29, 2019, 10:58:42 PM
I remember hearing during the filming of TAR 31 or TAR 32 that Lynne Spillman had been relieved of her TAR casting duties and whichever season that was would the last one where she was involved withe the TAR casting (since it had already been done).

She was relived of her duties for Survivor. Not for TAR, afaik.

OK, I'm probably wrong then. Wouldn't be the first time.   :carryon:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: grateful cacher on October 07, 2019, 11:33:34 AM
Any words on when Season 33 will leave the starting blocks???
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: BourkieBoy on October 07, 2019, 04:17:42 PM
Any words on when Season 33 will leave the starting blocks???

Season 33 is scheduled to film from late February 2020, as per the The Amazing Race casting website!  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on October 07, 2019, 10:45:06 PM
Any words on when Season 33 will leave the starting blocks???

Season 33 is scheduled to film from late February 2020, as per the The Amazing Race casting website!  :tup:

Hopefully, Melbourne & Adelaide, Australia, and Cape Town, South Africa will be visited since it will be late summer there.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on October 08, 2019, 10:48:46 AM
Remember that Phil's new show "tough as Nails" is scheduled to film Jan-Feb.

Since we don't know exact dates it is still possible for LATE Feb...  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on October 08, 2019, 03:10:28 PM
Remember that Phil's new show "tough as Nails" is scheduled to film Jan-Feb.

Since we don't know exact dates it is still possible for LATE Feb...  :duno:

I am totally expecting them to reschedule it once again... It was supposed to film summer 2019 based on casting website, then rumours were it move to october/november 2019, now website say late february 2020...

It would probably air summer 2021 anyway...
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 08, 2019, 05:28:30 PM
Remember that Phil's new show "tough as Nails" is scheduled to film Jan-Feb.

Since we don't know exact dates it is still possible for LATE Feb...  :duno:

It is been too sad for me  :'(

JMO
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TheRabbi on October 09, 2019, 08:40:38 AM
Since it seems we're pretty firmly locked into the one cycle per year format now, it probably doesn't matter exactly when it films. 32 will air in the current tv season (Sept-May), and 33 will air in the next one. So if it still films in February, or gets delayed to summer due to Phil's new show, it likely won't affect the air date (somewhere between Fall 2020 to Summer 2021).
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on October 10, 2019, 04:43:47 PM
They’re definitely not going to China now
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 11, 2019, 05:20:00 PM
They’re definitely not going to China now
Hong Kong especially with all the craziness going on there.

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Mostly, I wonder what the objective for production is. Now that the show is going into its 33rd season, it's safe to say it's doing ok - "ok" at its most loose term. But there's no masking that the original version is declining in popularity substantially since that Friday primetime death slot move in the mid-2010's and CBS trying to get the show over with quicker with more back-to-back broadcasts lately. Are they going to continue riding out this wave on a life raft or are they going to try to improve their circumstances? :duno:

I feel like CBS is on the verge of giving up on this show and I'm not ready for it to leave the airwaves.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Parovic on October 11, 2019, 06:07:05 PM
They’re definitely not going to China now
Hong Kong especially with all the craziness going on there.

Comment contributing to the discussion:
Mostly, I wonder what the objective for production is. Now that the show is going into its 33rd season, it's safe to say it's doing ok - "ok" at its most loose term. But there's no masking that the original version is declining in popularity substantially since that Friday primetime death slot move in the mid-2010's and CBS trying to get the show over with quicker with more back-to-back broadcasts lately. Are they going to continue riding out this wave on a life raft or are they going to try to improve their circumstances? :duno:

I feel like CBS is on the verge of giving up on this show and I'm not ready for it to leave the airwaves.

Hong Kong definitely is a No

I mean, even with no masking, the police has been so sensitive and non-cooperative (Arrest citizens whenever they want)
The public transport has been a chaos for 721/831 incident (The mobs come to beat citizens/ The police beat the citizens)

Also, XinJiang is a No
We know there is a concentration camp

We won't be able to see China appear in future seasons for sure
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARstorian on October 11, 2019, 07:29:29 PM
My presumption is Tough as Nails delays/affects TAR 33's filming. We know CBS isn't too high on TAR given the new exec, minimal ratings for Reality Showdown, and overall probably being the most expensive reality show to produce.

And now we are in our -fifth- year of airing one US season per year during the spring, there really is no rush to film anything. The crew for TAR 32 has already secured the record for the longest time to wait for their season to air, and they still have another four to six months to wait. That's a long wait to post pictures with your new TAR buddies on Instagram.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 11, 2019, 08:08:45 PM
My presumption is Tough as Nails delays/affects TAR 33's filming. We know CBS isn't too high on TAR given the new exec, minimal ratings for Reality Showdown, and overall probably being the most expensive reality show to produce.

And now we are in our -fifth- year of airing one US season per year during the spring, there really is no rush to film anything. The crew for TAR 32 has already secured the record for the longest time to wait for their season to air, and they still have another four to six months to wait. That's a long wait to post pictures with your new TAR buddies on Instagram.

It could be the end of the original American version. As Phil is super busy with his hectic work schedule. That might not wait for less than two years after TAR 32 has last filmed.

JMO
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 11, 2019, 10:41:48 PM
My presumption is Tough as Nails delays/affects TAR 33's filming. We know CBS isn't too high on TAR given the new exec, minimal ratings for Reality Showdown, and overall probably being the most expensive reality show to produce.

And now we are in our -fifth- year of airing one US season per year during the spring, there really is no rush to film anything. The crew for TAR 32 has already secured the record for the longest time to wait for their season to air, and they still have another four to six months to wait. That's a long wait to post pictures with your new TAR buddies on Instagram.

It could be the end of the original American version. As Phil is super busy with his hectic work schedule. That might not wait for less than two years after TAR 32 has last filmed.

JMO
I'd really hate to see this being the beginning of the end. I think one of the things I've been noticing more from the other reality TV competitions that are still successful like Survivor, American Ninja Warrior, heck even Big Brother which I can no longer stand is that the contestants do seem like they are connected with everyone inside and outside of their show well. Even the first season of Love Island being shoved down everyone's bloated stomachs had some people talking about the contestants at least. I wish TAR continued with Elimination Station and the drama and raw passion of the race as a journey rather than focusing on showing teams doing the tasks and un-rushedly taxiing. The former is really a part of what made the show feel a lot more interconnected as a community for racers, fans and viewers.

The real ingredient TAR is lacking right now: social interactions.

And it's not looking good as season 32's racers are still anxiously waiting to be able to talk about the racers on their season if it's even on their minds anymore. I can't even imagine how hard the winners have to hold it in.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: jb542 on October 12, 2019, 06:26:12 AM
My presumption is Tough as Nails delays/affects TAR 33's filming. We know CBS isn't too high on TAR given the new exec, minimal ratings for Reality Showdown, and overall probably being the most expensive reality show to produce.

And now we are in our -fifth- year of airing one US season per year during the spring, there really is no rush to film anything. The crew for TAR 32 has already secured the record for the longest time to wait for their season to air, and they still have another four to six months to wait. That's a long wait to post pictures with your new TAR buddies on Instagram.

I follow the CBS Entertainment President on twitter and he is a huge TAR fan. He is also close friends with Phil.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on October 13, 2019, 11:42:35 AM
I wouldn’t be surprised to see them go back to Taiwan now that China is out of the picture. They’ve only been there twice and haven’t been since 19. They didn’t hit any of the East Asian counties they almost always hit last year (SK, Japan, China) and it’d be a change of pace. Plus I just don’t see them going to the PRC anytime soon which makes Taiwan less of a sticky situation.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Maanca on October 13, 2019, 12:00:38 PM
I'm fine with that. China's had its fill of visits already.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: jb542 on October 13, 2019, 12:26:41 PM

Jackson Michie from BB21 is trying to get on The Amazing Race...
https://twitter.com/GoldDerby/status/1183427447552913409
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Maanca on October 13, 2019, 12:30:55 PM

Jackson Michie from BB21 is trying to get on The Amazing Race...
https://twitter.com/GoldDerby/status/1183427447552913409

Oh, hell no. After the things that went down on BB21 and the rumours that Mommy prodded CBS into him winning, I'd rather not see him on TV again, let alone near our beloved TAR.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on October 13, 2019, 01:20:35 PM
I really hope they will try to cast some unique teams this time. Here are some ideas...

xxx LGBT team like (young) lesbian couple, transgender(s), drag queens
xxx teams with both members 50 + old
xxx overweight/obese team
xxx FF with some badass jobs like wrestlers
xxx religious team like pastors, nuns, muslims, orthodox jews
xxx "in law" team
xxx hot parent child team
xxx older parent child team (child in their 40s)
xxx parent & adopted child
xxx MF friends where no one is gay
xxx MF couple with bigger age difference
xxx MF twins
xxx roommates
xxx aboriginal team
xxx teenegers
xxx neigbors



Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on October 14, 2019, 05:20:10 AM
I'm fine with that. China's had its fill of visits already.

Completely agree. I understand they can’t go only to democracies/ places with good human rights records exclusively but they’ve been to China roughly every other season and it’s getting to place where they can’t really know they’re going to be safe there either.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on November 10, 2019, 03:59:41 PM
How long has it been since they’ve filmed a season completely in the winter?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on November 10, 2019, 06:48:05 PM
How long has it been since they’ve filmed a season completely in the winter?

I think Phil will be super busy to film his new show (not related to Race) entitled Tough as Nails around this winter. I also think the effect of filming TAR 33 has now been rescheduled many times (from fall 2019, to winter 2020 and its being pushed to fall 2020, that its too long to wait).

All JMO
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on November 11, 2019, 10:00:28 AM
Has the minimum age requirement changed recently? I just checked the casting website and it says you must be 18 years of age or older to apply, when I'm pretty sure I looked at it a few months ago and it said you had to be 21 years of age or older to apply?

https://www.theamazingracecasting.com/faq
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: BourkieBoy on November 12, 2019, 12:30:49 AM
Is there any chance we could possibly get TWO filmings and TWO airings next year? ???

Something like this:

TAR32 airs in Spring (similar to TAR31)
TAR33 films in Late February to Mid-Later March
TAR33 airs in Fall/Winter 2020
TAR34 films in Fall/Winter 2020 (when TAR33 is airing) and airs in Spring 2021

I'm probs grasping at straws here, but hey, I'm optimistic OK!  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on November 12, 2019, 04:56:03 AM
Has the minimum age requirement changed recently? I just checked the casting website and it says you must be 18 years of age or older to apply, when I'm pretty sure I looked at it a few months ago and it said you had to be 21 years of age or older to apply?

https://www.theamazingracecasting.com/faq

You don’t have to be 21 if your partner is but I think there’s only ever been a handful of ppl who’ve raced under 21. I think it has to do with insurance
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Malcooolm on November 15, 2019, 01:24:52 PM
Has the minimum age requirement changed recently? I just checked the casting website and it says you must be 18 years of age or older to apply, when I'm pretty sure I looked at it a few months ago and it said you had to be 21 years of age or older to apply?

https://www.theamazingracecasting.com/faq

You don’t have to be 21 if your partner is but I think there’s only ever been a handful of ppl who’ve raced under 21. I think it has to do with insurance
You definitely used to have to be 21 to get on. I remember Floyd saying he almost got on when he was 20 but he was too young so he had to wait until he was 21
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Maanca on November 15, 2019, 01:27:11 PM
Has the minimum age requirement changed recently? I just checked the casting website and it says you must be 18 years of age or older to apply, when I'm pretty sure I looked at it a few months ago and it said you had to be 21 years of age or older to apply?

https://www.theamazingracecasting.com/faq

You don’t have to be 21 if your partner is but I think there’s only ever been a handful of ppl who’ve raced under 21. I think it has to do with insurance
You definitely used to have to be 21 to get on. I remember Floyd saying he almost got on when he was 20 but he was too young so he had to wait until he was 21

Unless you're racing with a parent, that's the exception. Cole Labrant and Zac Sunderland were both 19.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on November 15, 2019, 03:13:32 PM
Has the minimum age requirement changed recently? I just checked the casting website and it says you must be 18 years of age or older to apply, when I'm pretty sure I looked at it a few months ago and it said you had to be 21 years of age or older to apply?

https://www.theamazingracecasting.com/faq

You don’t have to be 21 if your partner is but I think there’s only ever been a handful of ppl who’ve raced under 21. I think it has to do with insurance
You definitely used to have to be 21 to get on. I remember Floyd saying he almost got on when he was 20 but he was too young so he had to wait until he was 21

His partner probably wasn’t 21 then. They don’t like for someone under 21 to race but they’ll make an occasional exception if the partner is over.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: redskevin88 on November 15, 2019, 06:56:29 PM
Has the minimum age requirement changed recently? I just checked the casting website and it says you must be 18 years of age or older to apply, when I'm pretty sure I looked at it a few months ago and it said you had to be 21 years of age or older to apply?

https://www.theamazingracecasting.com/faq

You don’t have to be 21 if your partner is but I think there’s only ever been a handful of ppl who’ve raced under 21. I think it has to do with insurance
You definitely used to have to be 21 to get on. I remember Floyd saying he almost got on when he was 20 but he was too young so he had to wait until he was 21

Unless you're racing with a parent, that's the exception. Cole Labrant and Zac Sunderland were both 19.

Caite Upton raced on Season 16 with her "boyfriend". She was 20.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARUSAFan on November 16, 2019, 06:01:31 AM
I really hope they will try to cast some unique teams this time. Here are some ideas...

xxx LGBT team like (young) lesbian couple, transgender(s), drag queens
xxx teams with both members 50 + old
xxx overweight/obese team
xxx FF with some badass jobs like wrestlers
xxx religious team like pastors, nuns, muslims, orthodox jews
xxx "in law" team
xxx hot parent child team
xxx older parent child team (child in their 40s)
xxx parent & adopted child
xxx MF friends where no one is gay
xxx MF couple with bigger age difference
xxx MF twins
xxx roommates
xxx aboriginal team
xxx teenegers
xxx neigbors

Yeah! I'd love a hot/parent child team and a F/F Team with badass jobs like Fighter Pilots.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on November 25, 2019, 03:58:27 PM
Joe and Sierra from Survivor got married this weekend. Wonder if they are interesting enough to be contacted for this season of TAR.

Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Maanca on November 25, 2019, 04:04:10 PM
Joe and Sierra from Survivor got married this weekend. Wonder if they are interesting enough to be contacted for this season of TAR.

Joe Anglim, there's one I could totally see TAR eyeing as a crossover. You'd think they would have during the Reality Clash season, though.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on November 25, 2019, 04:09:36 PM
Joe and Sierra from Survivor got married this weekend. Wonder if they are interesting enough to be contacted for this season of TAR.

Joe Anglim, there's one I could totally see TAR eyeing as a crossover. You'd think they would have during the Reality Clash season, though.

Joe was playing Survivor 38 when Reality Clash was filming.




Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on November 25, 2019, 08:34:19 PM
Joe and Sierra from Survivor got married this weekend. Wonder if they are interesting enough to be contacted for this season of TAR.

Joe Anglim, there's one I could totally see TAR eyeing as a crossover. You'd think they would have during the Reality Clash season, though.

Joe was playing Survivor 38 when Reality Clash was filming.

I know. It is talking about filming of TAR 33 that will take place sometime in fall 2020 as Phil will be super busy on filming Tough as Nails, not Reality Clash from earlier this year. mistaken info   
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on November 26, 2019, 01:15:43 AM
Joe and Sierra from Survivor got married this weekend. Wonder if they are interesting enough to be contacted for this season of TAR.

Joe Anglim, there's one I could totally see TAR eyeing as a crossover. You'd think they would have during the Reality Clash season, though.

Joe was playing Survivor 38 when Reality Clash was filming.

I know. It is talking about filming of TAR 33 that will take place sometime in fall 2020 as Phil will be super busy on filming Tough as Nails, not Reality Clash from earlier this year.

Fall 2020? Wasn't filming of TAR33 supposed to happen in february 2020 based on their casting website? Or did they reschedule it once again?

Do we know when Tough as Nails is supposed to film?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 26, 2019, 08:41:03 AM
Claude's info is incorrect. The filming dates discussed for TAR and Tough still stand...to the best of our knowledge.

Per the CASTING SITES:

TAR 33:
"We are scheduled to start filming around late Feb 2020 for approximately 25-30 days."


Tough:
"January - February 2020"
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on November 27, 2019, 05:19:15 AM
Claude's info is incorrect. The filming dates discussed for TAR and Tough still stand...to the best of our knowledge.

Per the CASTING SITES:

TAR 33:
"We are scheduled to start filming around late Feb 2020 for approximately 25-30 days."


Tough:
"January - February 2020"

I understand it once again. My apologies for the filming schedule. Back to basics right now.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TheRabbi on December 02, 2019, 01:57:17 PM
Not directly TAR33 related, but I didn't know where else to post it, and I'd consider it ominous long-term news.

I received a marketing email that you could get 30% off anything in the cbs store for Cyber Monday today with a code, so I headed to the site to browse. It appears TAR has been completely scrubbed from the CBS store? I can find no merchandise nor results, and it does not appear in the show listing under 'browse by all shows'. I've bought things from there within the past couple years, so that's a bit of a bummer. Could certainly be considered further evidence of the show being on life support.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Leafsfan on December 02, 2019, 05:22:22 PM
33 is scheduled to be filmed early next year...
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: jb542 on December 16, 2019, 01:56:32 PM
TAR33 is still scheduled for Feb, right?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2019, 12:01:48 AM
 :duno:  I have no new info to add... Not sure
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on December 24, 2019, 05:11:15 AM
I just realized this season will be most likely airing in summer 2021 when TAR will have 20 years anniversery. So this better be good season, no gimmick, pls.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Parovic on January 03, 2020, 05:48:35 PM
I think some of the countries are not available to visit

Hong Kong (The Anti-extradition movement)
China (Trade War,Uyghur Concentration Camp)

I still think TAR33 will go to Asia first
Japan/Taiwan/South Korea are the 3 choices with Japan has the highest possibility because we are going to have Olympics in 2020
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on January 04, 2020, 01:53:11 AM
Anyway, there is still a possibility that TAR 33 could go to Oceania first as Australia is the only choice for a first country start. Rural areas in coastal Australia are in danger with bushfires. The three largest cities Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane are the candidates for the first destination city and they are safe with bushfires.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ovalorange on January 04, 2020, 06:26:47 AM
Claude while the cities may be safe from fire, there has been truckloads of fire smoke in the air for months now and it is expected to continue for many more weeks. The entirety of NSW is currently in a state of emergency. If we're still filming next month, id be inclined to almost rule out the east coast of Australia at this point. Which is a shame, as this would have normally been a great time to visit.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: BourkieBoy on January 04, 2020, 06:52:05 AM
Anyway, there is still a possibility that TAR 33 could go to Oceania first as Australia is the only choice for a first country start. Rural areas in coastal Australia are in danger with bushfires. The three largest cities Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane are the candidates for the first destination city and they are safe with bushfires.

Sydney & Melbourne are not impacted by the bushfires themselves, however smoke is drifting to both cities from the fires (as said in Oval’s post). It depends on how bad the smoke is. We can rule out country areas of both NSW & Victoria, as it is too much of a fire risk, considering how tinder dry it is out there!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARUSAFan on January 04, 2020, 08:33:02 AM
I'd love a Gold Coast visit! There's Perth, Cairns, Brisbane, Darwin, Hobart, Adelaide. If Australia can't be visited due to the fires. They can visit a different city outside NSW & Victoria. Also, New Zealand's wide open. There's also Fiji. If they really want to go off the beaten path, there's Tonga, Vanuatu, Cook Islands, Kiribati, flights though will be hard.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on January 06, 2020, 06:38:47 AM
I really hope they go back to Taiwan now that mainland China is out of the picture for the foreseeable future. It’d also be nice if they went somewhere in SK that’s not Seoul but Seoul’s got ICN and they need to be able to get in and out of a big airport quickly.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: dryedmangoez on January 06, 2020, 08:56:09 PM
I really hope they go back to Taiwan now that mainland China is out of the picture for the foreseeable future. It’d also be nice if they went somewhere in SK that’s not Seoul but Seoul’s got ICN and they need to be able to get in and out of a big airport quickly.

That shouldn't be a problem with the great trains in Korea. It really deserves two Legs for the next visit. They could also fly into Incheon then fly out of Busan or vice versa.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on January 09, 2020, 05:18:55 PM
Wonder if they’d consider Nepal easy enough to get in and out of. It’s a two on the state department’s rankings and they’ve never been there. Might be too cold for a winter season tho.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on January 09, 2020, 08:05:27 PM
And even Jakarta (the largest city in Indonesia and the whole Southeast Asia) is considering to visit in the US edition. It is a large place and even good with the tropical climate as its a safe location for foreign travellers.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on January 12, 2020, 09:52:59 PM
Claude while the cities may be safe from fire, there has been truckloads of fire smoke in the air for months now and it is expected to continue for many more weeks. The entirety of NSW is currently in a state of emergency. If we're still filming next month, id be inclined to almost rule out the east coast of Australia at this point. Which is a shame, as this would have normally been a great time to visit.

How is the fire situation in Tasmania? A two-leg visit to Tasmania would be incredible!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on January 13, 2020, 03:59:10 PM
If they were going to Australia, I'd think NZ would be an easy enough swap need be.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on January 19, 2020, 07:04:16 AM
TAR33 is supposed to film in month. Any new info? Will it be normal or another gimmick season?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on January 20, 2020, 10:07:05 PM
Revised:
Quote
First, for The Amazing Race 32, “I would say in the next six months it’ll be airing,” Doganieri told me. “They haven’t given us a date. We’ve been hearing rumors, too!”

“We don’t know anything else,” van Munster said.

However, there is good news about the show’s future.
Quote
“We’re filming another one—33,” Doganieri told me. So yes, TAR 33 is happening.

https://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/2020/01/amazing-race-33-amazing-race-32-updates/?fbclid=IwAR0hJ2kK1agTSlDLgUBMc3V6h6_22ZDoPNSQtuL7mIQZTvNCp7vTBj_sbNQ
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on January 20, 2020, 10:09:15 PM
TAR33 is supposed to film in month. Any new info? Will it be normal or another gimmick season?

"Regular"  as far as we know...as in new players. Does not mean they couldn't slip in another TV team from somewhere however. But am hoping/praying NOT.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARUSAFan on January 21, 2020, 08:08:28 PM
Getting annoyed that we have to wait a long time just for seasons to air. Can we just go back to film 2 seasons a year. I feel like TAR is getting bumped off over crappy shows.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ZBC Company on January 21, 2020, 09:08:56 PM
Getting annoyed that we have to wait a long time just for seasons to air. Can we just go back to film 2 seasons a year. I feel like TAR is getting bumped off over crappy shows.

Amen to that
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on January 22, 2020, 08:16:31 AM
Do we know if they’re shooting two this year? I’d think so since they missed last year
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on January 22, 2020, 08:36:14 AM
Anything is possible but one a year is seeming like the new normal. But they really like having "one in the can" so would mostly depend on when 32 finally airs.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on January 22, 2020, 08:46:58 AM
If they’re doing two this year, I’d think they’ll shoot for some time this summer bc if they wait till the fall that’s three cold months season in a row
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on January 22, 2020, 05:12:47 PM
If they’re doing two this year, I’d think they’ll shoot for some time this summer bc if they wait till the fall that’s three cold months season in a row

I highly doubt they will film 2 seasons this year considering they filmed none in 2019 and potential TAR34 would air in 2022 anyway probably.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on January 22, 2020, 06:15:50 PM
Again...32 has been waiting for an air date for more than a year and we should see it before too long.

33 will go out towards end of Feb we think.

Nothing else has been determined...

When another season films will depend a lot on when 33 will air. They like to always have one ready "in the can" ready to air!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on January 25, 2020, 01:18:37 PM
Is season 33 already filming? Somebody on Reddit made a post linking to an article claiming that filming is already underway.

Reddit thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheAmazingRace/comments/etm3sj/the_amazing_race_season_33_underway_when_will/

Article: https://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/the-amazing-race-season-33-underway-when-will-season-32-air-on-cbs/

I don't know too much on if that website is a reliable source or not, but I definitely have heard of it from things in the past.

Is this legit? Is season 33 already somehow filming?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Leafsfan on January 25, 2020, 04:20:34 PM
No.

The article refer to 33 being green lit. Its fully expected TAR33 will start filming next month.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on January 25, 2020, 04:22:45 PM
I wonder if since it's filming in the winter if they'll go somewhere snowy or stick to somewhere warm for the finale. They've hit most of the warm weather big metros and they almost always have them in airline hub cities. Eyeballing it now that 31 was in Detroit, Charlotte, SLC, Boston, and MSP are the only hub cities they haven't visited yet. SLC would be a cool place to visit if they choose cold and it's a Delta hub. If they're coming from Asia, they'd have to make a connection though bc for now all the long haul internationals they do out of there are to Europe.


Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on January 30, 2020, 10:38:24 PM
I imagine the coronavirus craze will throw a wrench into any potential filming. China is definitely out of the question, and probably much of east and southeast Asia as well.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on January 31, 2020, 10:45:54 AM
I have a feeling this will be a southern hemisphere heavy season.  Hoping for a lot of time in Africa bc they're probably not going to Asia much if at all.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: kyleisalive on January 31, 2020, 11:08:46 AM
Asia is a big place.  Even if they avoid China (despite China being one of the largest places), they could go into the Stans or Russia or India or Japan.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on January 31, 2020, 12:26:42 PM
Asia is a big place.  Even if they avoid China (despite China being one of the largest places), they could go into the Stans or Russia or India or Japan.

Lol they're not going to Russia. They've had too many issues with people getting their stuff stolen when they went there a lot and they don't really go to politically contentious places. I doubt they'd have gone to China bc of politics this season without the virus anyway. Japan and India are too close to the epicenter too.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on January 31, 2020, 05:59:19 PM
I have a feeling this will be a southern hemisphere heavy season.  Hoping for a lot of time in Africa bc they're probably not going to Asia much if at all.

Australia is probably likely as would be getting visited. We will have 3 Africa legs as possible. Indonesia is mostly in Southern Hemisphere with Java is the most populous island overall.

Asia is a big place.  Even if they avoid China (despite China being one of the largest places), they could go into the Stans or Russia or India or Japan.

Lol they're not going to Russia. They've had too many issues with people getting their stuff stolen when they went there a lot and they don't really go to politically contentious places. I doubt they'd have gone to China bc of politics this season without the virus anyway. Japan and India are too close to the epicenter too.

Nepal could also be possible to visit at this route stage even with the mountainous Himalayas.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on February 01, 2020, 05:38:50 AM
The only issue I see with Nepal is that it’s logistically hard to get into and out of. They could always just charter a flight bc they usually do that once a season or so. They’d probably have to spend two legs there bc of that and the fact that people have to get acclimated to the altitude.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on February 01, 2020, 04:51:00 PM
I am hoping for:

- at least equal number of men and women in cast. Seriously... They casted 10 more males than females in last 3 seasons!!! It's 2020, wake up.
- no reality tv or social media team
- no gimmick theme, just classic season

What am I expecting? exact opposite
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on February 01, 2020, 05:10:39 PM
I have a feeling we are going to see some teams with lots of social media followers. SO yeah, don't hold your breath! :funny:

But I learned from some of our more well connected/known former teams...they can be JUST as much fun to watch as a brand new unknown!

SO I'll be grateful if they are fun to watch and race well.  And aren't jerks.   :hfive:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: kyleisalive on February 02, 2020, 05:21:56 PM
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and they don't really go to politically contentious places.

This isn't really true.  In recent years:

TAR28, TARCAN6 - Mexico
TAR28 - Colombia
TARCAN5, TAR28, HMLM7 - China
TAR27, TAR29 - Brazil
TAR30 - Hong Kong
HMLM7 - South Africa
TARAU4 - South Korea (specifically to the DMZ)

TAR US hasn't visited Russia since the issues in TAR21, granted, but the country is much bigger than just Moscow, where that happened.  If we're going to omit countries entirely because of an incident eight years ago, then they probably never would have gone back to Morocco after TAR3 either.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on February 03, 2020, 07:57:09 AM
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and they don't really go to politically contentious places.

This isn't really true.  In recent years:

TAR28, TARCAN6 - Mexico
TAR28 - Colombia
TARCAN5, TAR28, HMLM7 - China
TAR27, TAR29 - Brazil
TAR30 - Hong Kong
HMLM7 - South Africa
TARAU4 - South Korea (specifically to the DMZ)

TAR US hasn't visited Russia since the issues in TAR21, granted, but the country is much bigger than just Moscow, where that happened.  If we're going to omit countries entirely because of an incident eight years ago, then they probably never would have gone back to Morocco after TAR3 either.

Well, the US went to most of those places before they became politically contentious. For example, they haven’t been to China since late 2015 which is before Xi started clamping down on power and before everyone knew they were putting a whole ethnic group in concentration camps. 30 went to Hong Kong but that was a good year and a half or so before the protests started. The international versions can do what they please but US version has always tried to stay away from hot button places. They don’t always succeed in staying politics free but they have a pretty good record for the amount of time they’ve been on the air.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: The Dominator on February 06, 2020, 03:47:36 AM
any chance season 33 starts filming this weekend???   or is that still way too early??

 
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on February 06, 2020, 09:38:47 AM
Another couple of weeks+ at least.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: The Dominator on February 06, 2020, 11:02:36 AM
ahhh, thanks Peach!!!  :luvya:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on February 06, 2020, 12:30:09 PM
Another couple of weeks+ at least.

But still in February, right?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on February 06, 2020, 05:39:42 PM
Another couple of weeks+ at least.

But still in February, right?

Yes, this year. February has 29 days because of leap year. March 1 will be Sunday.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: BourkieBoy on February 06, 2020, 09:44:02 PM
From the CBS site. Relax people! Filming is not starting this weekend.

(https://imgur.com/hHQO2Rr.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARUSAFan on February 06, 2020, 11:10:37 PM
CAN'T WAIT TO START DETECTIVE WORK AGAIN!!! It has been sooooooooo long since the last one.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on February 07, 2020, 08:37:19 PM
For those members who have been watching for a long time - what did TAR do in 2003 and 2009 with the outbreaks of SARS and Swine Flu, respectively? This might shed some light on how they might film with Coronavirus
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 08, 2020, 12:39:45 AM
For those members who have been watching for a long time - what did TAR do in 2003 and 2009 with the outbreaks of SARS and Swine Flu, respectively? This might shed some light on how they might film with Coronavirus
Scratched everything I had typed out. TAR15 was the one filming during the heavy moments of H1N1.

I found the TAR15 application and here is a quote they have word-for-word. I believe this has been on every Race application since its inception though:
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Participants must be willing to receive all needed immunizations that the Producers
deem to be necessary and medically appropriate to the race. Teams must agree to take
any medications needed to prevent illness in certain foreign countries.

I'm assuming they monitored the situation prior to the race.

Source: https://static.cbslocal.com/station/wwj/Amazing%20Race%20Eligibility%2015.pdf
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ovalorange on February 08, 2020, 01:11:18 AM
TAR15 supposedly had a few locations revamped due to swine flu - South Korea and Ghana later appeared on 17 and Brazil on 18. The replacements were reportedly a mix of Japan/Sweden/Netherlands, but I don't know if this ever got confirmed. There was also mention of a replaced Balkans leg, but I don't think that ever resurfaced.

Funnily enough 29 went to Brazil right around the time of the Zika virus, I recall finding them turning up there pretty surprising.

I'd hope that since we've been in a filming lull for a year that WRP should have some spare legs up their sleeve to use to replace any regions at risk due to Coronavirus.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on February 08, 2020, 02:01:19 AM
At least some countries are prevented with nCov Corona Virus, Australia it seems fine and safe there.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cbacbacba1 on February 09, 2020, 10:25:55 AM
A large part of Asian countries have to be avoided because of the virus incident
Not mentioning Mainland China, but Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore all have quite large amount of cases already
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on February 09, 2020, 01:28:25 PM
A large part of Asian countries have to be avoided because of the virus incident
Not mentioning Mainland China, but Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore all have quite large amount of cases already

I think Asia might take a big hit in the way that we might only get a couple of legs this season. We could theoretically avoid China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan, and Singapore, but these are all home to some of the biggest airports in East Asia. Even if the race wanted to visit somewhere in Asia where there has been no reports of virus - maybe Bhutan or Brunei - they would eventually have to connect through a major airport like Changhi or Narita or something like that. And airports are where these viruses catch their flights around the world.

For example, if we just focus on East and Southeast Asia, there are suspected cases (but not confirmed) in Indonesia, Myanmar and Bangladesh, and no cases (suspected, confirmed or otherwise) in East Timor, Brunei, Laos and Bhutan. Every other country has had a confirmed case.

Now, granted, not every country has been hit as hard as China. India, for example, only has 3 cases, and they are all confined to the state of Kerala. Similarly, only one case has been confirmed in Sri Lanka, in Colombo. So, even for countries where there are confirmed cases, the other parts of the country aren't eliminated completely.

Nevertheless, I could foresee producers skipping over giant swaths of Asia just to be safe.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Maanca on February 09, 2020, 03:19:11 PM
It's going to be really interesting to see what Coronavirus does to the east Asian part of the route. Maybe this might actually force their hand into making that long overdue return to Australia.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: BourkieBoy on February 09, 2020, 08:55:09 PM
I think producers of the show should be more concerned about the amount of flooding certain parts of Australia is receiving, rather than what bushfires are doing!

Parts of New South Wales & Queensland are now under water from flooding, after being on fire in January!  :funny:

Victoria's OK though! So is Tasmania...
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Malcooolm on February 09, 2020, 09:05:42 PM
It's going to be really interesting to see what Coronavirus does to the east Asian part of the route. Maybe this might actually force their hand into making that long overdue return to Australia.
Hopefully we can get an Africa and Oceania heavy season!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on February 09, 2020, 10:11:28 PM
I think producers of the show should be more concerned about the amount of flooding certain parts of Australia is receiving, rather than what bushfires are doing!

Parts of New South Wales & Queensland are now under water from flooding, after being on fire in January!  :funny:

Victoria's OK though! So is Tasmania...

Even (the state of) Victoria is now in good condition. The US version hasn't yet visited that state before, including Melbourne. Four states and one territory visited in TAR US before.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on February 10, 2020, 12:33:00 AM
I think producers of the show should be more concerned about the amount of flooding certain parts of Australia is receiving, rather than what bushfires are doing!

Parts of New South Wales & Queensland are now under water from flooding, after being on fire in January!  :funny:

Victoria's OK though! So is Tasmania...

Even (the state of) Victoria is now in good condition. The US version hasn't yet visited that state before, including Melbourne. Four states and one territory visited in TAR US before.

Wasn't a large portion of Western Australia spared from the fires? I've always thought thought that it would be interesting to have the start in Los Angeles and then fly all the way to Perth for leg 1, and then perhaps a KOR and have leg 2 down south around Albany and Denmark!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on February 10, 2020, 07:03:20 PM
Wasn't a large portion of Western Australia spared from the fires? I've always thought thought that it would be interesting to have the start in Los Angeles and then fly all the way to Perth for leg 1, and then perhaps a KOR and have leg 2 down south around Albany and Denmark!

There is one in Kalgoorlie, a mining town which is home the famous Super Pit, scheduled to be closed in 2034. Western Australia didn't affect the fires unlike those in parts of Australia. It is sparse which 90 percent is arid desert.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ZBC Company on February 15, 2020, 04:19:57 AM
I definitely think that we're gonna be skipping China or South asain countries
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on February 15, 2020, 05:05:38 AM
When should we start looking for sightings? This weekend already?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on February 15, 2020, 11:51:50 AM
But looking for film permits, locations etc are always welcome!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on February 18, 2020, 03:10:19 PM
It will start filming this weekend hopefully.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: RachelLeVega on February 20, 2020, 09:08:01 AM
Time to start sleuthing for film permits around L.A. County. :lol:

My senses are being drawn to Crystal Cove State Park for some weird reason. They've never gone that south in SoCal (even Palm Springs in relation to coordinates) to film and I think they'd move it down there for "creativity points". It's pretty secluded from passersby, commercial filming permitted, and all the times they've had public starting lines, Facebook and other sites would have already posted about it to get people to come. It also has an expansive beachfront and a tunnel that teams would just run into to get to their cars to drive to LAX easily. If not, it's a good back pocket consideration for future searching.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on February 21, 2020, 12:20:02 PM
I am assuming it's started filming already based on the fact that GP opened live sightings thread.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: The Dominator on February 21, 2020, 04:45:35 PM
I am assuming it's started filming already based on the fact that GP opened live sightings thread.

Or it's about to start filming this weekend.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on February 21, 2020, 07:06:09 PM
With the race is about to start assuming it would have another LA start, as Rachel pointed out Crystal Cove State Park would be a perfect starting line location, being located south of Greater LA area. The race should have Australia as first international destination.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARUSAFan on February 22, 2020, 08:36:05 AM
Here's to hoping we have a balanced diverse cast.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Oliveira on February 22, 2020, 08:57:29 AM
Wouldn't this season air in 20th year anniversary? Can't we get an all winners cast too?  :)x :)x
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Kiwi Jay on February 22, 2020, 09:59:15 AM
Personally, I am praying for a few older cast members. And by older, I mean 45+ because that diversity is severely lacking. We have diversity of ethnicity and background. But where are our older teams? Where are our teams that are not as physically adept?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Jay33 on February 22, 2020, 10:59:46 AM
Wouldn't this season air in 20th year anniversary? Can't we get an all winners cast too?  :)x :)x

I'd love an all-winners edition of TAR. It's the show that would be best suited for it tbh.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Parovic on February 23, 2020, 12:30:22 PM
A large part of Asian countries have to be avoided because of the virus incident
Not mentioning Mainland China, but Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore all have quite large amount of cases already

I think Asia might take a big hit in the way that we might only get a couple of legs this season. We could theoretically avoid China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan, and Singapore, but these are all home to some of the biggest airports in East Asia. Even if the race wanted to visit somewhere in Asia where there has been no reports of virus - maybe Bhutan or Brunei - they would eventually have to connect through a major airport like Changhi or Narita or something like that. And airports are where these viruses catch their flights around the world.

For example, if we just focus on East and Southeast Asia, there are suspected cases (but not confirmed) in Indonesia, Myanmar and Bangladesh, and no cases (suspected, confirmed or otherwise) in East Timor, Brunei, Laos and Bhutan. Every other country has had a confirmed case.

Now, granted, not every country has been hit as hard as China. India, for example, only has 3 cases, and they are all confined to the state of Kerala. Similarly, only one case has been confirmed in Sri Lanka, in Colombo. So, even for countries where there are confirmed cases, the other parts of the country aren't eliminated completely.

Nevertheless, I could foresee producers skipping over giant swaths of Asia just to be safe.
They cannot make connections in Hong Kong and China, maybe Singapore/Japan/SK
As most of the US Airlines have cancelled the flights to HK and China

The only Asia country still available is Taiwan/Philippines at this point
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on February 23, 2020, 03:53:33 PM
Closing this thread now, please use the live threads for 33 moving forward!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 22, 2020, 03:38:05 PM
RE-Opening this topic.

There are plans in effect to move forward with TAR 33 re-filming as the world allows. I know they are hoping to be able to go out again perhaps Nov/Dec .

Given the current world Covid Status, what locations could LEGIT be POSSIBLE as restrictions are relaxed??

Here are the WHO Updates today...

<<EPI UPDATE The WHO COVID-19 Situation Report for May 21 reports 4.89 million confirmed cases (103,981 new) and 323,256 deaths (4,467 new). The global total incidence could potentially reach 5 million cases by today’s update.




Brazil reported 18,508 new cases, its second highest daily incidence to date. Brazil’s daily incidence is second to only the United States, and if the current trajectories continue, it could become #1 globally in the coming days. Brazil’s daily per capita incidence is now more than 25% greater than the United States’. The per capita incidence in Peru and Chile is even higher, however, with Peru reporting nearly 140 new cases per million population each day and Chile reporting more than 200, approximately double and triple the per capita incidence in the United States, respectively. South America is emerging as a major global hotspot for COVID-19. These South American countries now represent 3 of the top 6 countries in terms of daily incidence.




Russia reported 8,894 new cases, its third consecutive day with fewer than 9,000 new cases. Moscow and the Moscow Region continue to represent the majority (58.2%) of Russia’s COVID-19 cases. India reported 6,088 new cases, its highest daily incidence to date. The state of Tamil Nadu, where a large outbreak has been linked to one of Asia’s largest markets, reported 743 new cases. Russia and India are #3 and #4 in the world, respectively, in terms of daily incidence.




South Africa’s COVID-19 epidemic continues to accelerate. South Africa reported 1,134 new cases, which is its second highest daily total and the second time in the past 5 days that the daily incidence exceeded 1,000. South Africa is currently reporting the highest cumulative COVID-19 incidence (19,137 cases) and highest daily incidence in Africa. After appearing to approach a plateau in the first half of May, Djibouti is once again reporting increasing daily incidence. Between April 23 and May 16, Djibouti reported fewer than 10 new cases 8 times and more than 25 new cases only 3 times. Since then, Djibouti has not reported fewer than 70 new cases per day.




Singapore reported 614 new cases, including 610 (99.3%) among residents of migrant worker dormitories. Outbreaks in migrant worker dormitories continue to drive Singapore’s COVID-19 epidemic. Singapore estimates that the cases confirmed so far represent 8.72% of the total population across all migrant worker dormitories, compared to only 0.03% of the general public population. Of the total confirmed cases reported in Singapore, 92.5% are among residents of migrant worker dormitories.




UNITED STATES

The US CDC reported 1.55 million total cases (22,860 new) and 93,061 deaths (1,397 new). Daily COVID-19 deaths in the United States are generally on the decline, but the total could potentially reach 100,000 deaths in the next 6-7 days. In total, 10 states (no change) reported more than 40,000 cases, including New York with more than 350,000; New Jersey with more than 150,000; and Illinois with more than 100,000. >>

Thoughts on ANY areas that might be possible?

As a Medical responder I am having difficulty figuring this out...


Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: SamualDude on May 22, 2020, 06:15:15 PM
While we have it under control here in NZ I'm not confident we will open up our borders till next year. I would say possibly NZ but that's going to be dependant on how the rest of the world goes.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: BourkieBoy on May 22, 2020, 07:09:06 PM
Australia might be a chance in late 2020, however, I really cannot see TAR33 going back out, until there is a vaccine for the Coronavirus. It's too risky, especially for the US version of the show, who has a whole host of problems associated with COVID-19...
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 22, 2020, 07:24:03 PM
They could go to new smaller countries with already 95-100% cured cases like Bonaire (a Dutch land) or Palau.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: BritishTARFan on May 22, 2020, 07:34:22 PM
With the exception of the possibility of the 3 Legs in the uk, I reckon this could lead to a very interesting route. Feel like great places to visit would be Patagonia and NZ.

I wonder if teams will fly to wherever leg 3 ended or automatically head out to leg 4
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Xoruz on May 22, 2020, 10:31:05 PM
One that comes to mind is Iceland.

https://www.euronews.com/2020/05/20/coronavirus-iceland-pitches-for-post-lockdown-tourists

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When it reopens to tourists in June, Iceland plans to allow travellers to avoid a two-week quarantine if they test negative for the novel coronavirus when they land in the country.

The full logistics of this have yet to be ironed out, but here’s the idea: Tourists will be tested when they arrive at Reykjavik airport. While they wait for the results, they will be asked to download a tracking app and head to their hotel or other accommodation. A few hours later, they will be given the result of their test in a text message if it’s negative, and over a phone call if it’s positive.

That's what I'd imagine would happen after each flight once portable testing improves. That and pre-booked flights.

Part of me also hopes that they'd do Greenland if they do Iceland since it only had 11 cases and no new cases since the start of April.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 23, 2020, 12:57:25 AM
They could go to new smaller countries with already 95-100% cured cases like Bonaire (a Dutch land) or Palau.

That pre-supposes those smart countries would welcome large group of  people incoming from plane travel, and potential at risk other places. I'm not sure how this will work.But TAR has amazing connections and will take every precaution...but :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on May 23, 2020, 02:42:22 AM
I'm thinking if/when they're able to resume production, they'll have a route similar to TARAUS4 and the first half of TAR24; meaning spending two episodes/legs in a row in just one country. We've already had the first THREE (!!!) legs/episodes all take place in England, to save money and just make it easier, I'm pretty sure the rest of the route will have each next country take place over two episodes, if not even three, before moving on. Hopefully they'll have some good challenges in mind because it might start to get boring if we ever have to end up with a third episode of being in the same country in a row.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on May 23, 2020, 04:25:40 AM
We have to pay attention to where borders have been reopened to nonessential traffic, that have health precautions in place, and the capacity of production to test for exposure during filming. I think WRP and CzbS already know pre COVID19 budgets will have to go up. Even the resumption of scripted drama are going to need larger budgets in order to resume, once those do resume. As far as know the only US studio definitely planning to resume is Tyler Perry’s studio complex in Atlanta. Others in California and in Canada are preparing, as California guidelines are due out next week.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: redskevin88 on May 23, 2020, 04:30:10 AM
I'm thinking if/when they're able to resume production, they'll have a route similar to TARAUS4 and the first half of TAR24; meaning spending two episodes/legs in a row in just one country. We've already had the first THREE (!!!) legs/episodes all take place in England, to save money and just make it easier, I'm pretty sure the rest of the route will have each next country take place over two episodes, if not even three, before moving on. Hopefully they'll have some good challenges in mind because it might start to get boring if we ever have to end up with a third episode of being in the same country in a row.

Technically, part of the first leg is in the US as that is where the starting line/task is unless they pull a TARAUS4 (which doesn't surprise me).
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on May 23, 2020, 06:51:47 AM
RE-Opening this topic.

There are plans in effect to move forward with TAR 33 re-filming as the world allows. I know they are hoping to be able to go out again perhaps Nov/Dec .

This is sooo naive. Not gonna happen.

Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 23, 2020, 09:10:37 AM
I'm thinking if/when they're able to resume production, they'll have a route similar to TARAUS4 and the first half of TAR24; meaning spending two episodes/legs in a row in just one country. We've already had the first THREE (!!!) legs/episodes all take place in England, to save money and just make it easier, I'm pretty sure the rest of the route will have each next country take place over two episodes, if not even three, before moving on. Hopefully they'll have some good challenges in mind because it might start to get boring if we ever have to end up with a third episode of being in the same country in a row.

Technically, part of the first leg is in the US as that is where the starting line/task is unless they pull a TARAUS4 (which doesn't surprise me).
This will be a nightmare. 24 was so slow to watch when they visited only four countries within the span of eight episodes. :groan: If it comes down to deciding between a more efficient & safer route or a circumnavigated & finished route, they will obviously choose the former (and that's not saying I'm against it).
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 23, 2020, 12:17:35 PM
I think they are being overly optimistic about restarting the season any time soon. Especially when there is no guarantee that we won't see another devastating wave some time in the future.

If they do, I can only see them doing so by avoiding as much long distance transportation (flights, trains) as possible. And even then, having them Race in a pretty confined radius wherever they would be. You're not going to have teams running around, interacting with locals or hopping in any old taxi or bus. And that's regardless of wherever they are in the world.

Survivor is more likely to return to production before TAR as logistics of keeping their crew and cast safe are easier than TAR having to do the same for crew all over the world, both local and the "home" crew that travels with the teams.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on May 23, 2020, 01:32:06 PM
I almost feel like if they do end up resuming filming, they'll make all the contestants wear face masks 24/7. Or at least making them wear face masks while they're out and about racing in the world with the only time they allow them to take them off is when at the Pit Stop or doing confessionals. Just imagine nine more legs of teams where we barely even see their face, just their masks lol
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: stunami on May 23, 2020, 01:51:49 PM
I just don't see any version of Amazing Race starting until we find a vaccin... Even for The Amazing race Canada, the only option would be if Canada has zero cases, then maybe they would film domestic. (Same for Australia).
I mean with the airports hav ing extra mesures, I just don't see it :(
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: zacz on May 23, 2020, 10:36:37 PM
I just don't see any version of Amazing Race starting until we find a vaccin... Even for The Amazing race Canada, the only option would be if Canada has zero cases, then maybe they would film domestic. (Same for Australia).
I mean with the airports hav ing extra mesures, I just don't see it :(

I think the issue is I doubt the countries with 0 (or close to 0) cases would be willing to let travelers from the US, where the virus is much more widespread, to enter. Or at least to enter without a mandatory quarantine period. I would be more optimistic for filming to restart if the US was one of the countries with fewer cases.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ovalorange on May 25, 2020, 02:56:28 AM
RE-Opening this topic.

There are plans in effect to move forward with TAR 33 re-filming as the world allows. I know they are hoping to be able to go out again perhaps Nov/Dec .

This is sooo naive. Not gonna happen.

Agreed  :)x
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on May 25, 2020, 03:29:03 AM
RE-Opening this topic.

There are plans in effect to move forward with TAR 33 re-filming as the world allows. I know they are hoping to be able to go out again perhaps Nov/Dec .

This is sooo naive. Not gonna happen.

Agreed  :)x

I don't think so? Obviously this isn't happening now, nor is it happening anytime soon, nobody is saying that. But eventually the world will slowly but surely get back to normal. Could that happen over half a year from now, by their predicated re-start date of November or December? Maybe. Could it happen a year or more from now in June 2021 instead? Possibly. We just don't know. But I think regardless, when traveling is back to normal, TAR will return. It's just a matter of when.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ovalorange on May 25, 2020, 04:33:27 AM
I think you may have misinterpreted, I was referring to the bold part of filming the rest of the season in Nov/Dec 2020.

There is no way they can plan a season in 6 months when there are only skeleton commercial flights operating around in the world at the moment. There are new rules and restrictions changing in many countries every day, you can't predict right now where regions will sit at the end of the year. Not to mention the enormous amount of planning (new location scouting, permits, hiring local production etc) that needs to happen once they have a rough route locked in. This isn't happening until the world sorts its crap out.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 25, 2020, 09:25:41 AM
You and I GET this. But I will say that there are apparently STILL multiple plans for filming Survivor this fall, BB (soon) and TAR hopefully in Nov-Dec.

I love that our team seems to be perhaps more realistic than CBS?

The upfronts clearly show a great determination to get some things done...whether that means new locations, private flights, all quarantined teams and crews for weeks before...they are looking at any/all possibilities to make this work.

Medically speaking I see no way... But from the production end things are in full court press.



Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 25, 2020, 09:29:53 AM
I feel like WRP has some underlying deadline to fulfill for CBS now that they are hoping to get out of hiatus. That's just my take on it.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Nuku on May 25, 2020, 09:58:48 AM
This wouldn't be the beast way to do it, but a good way to get a race at least would just be do a version where they race around the US. I mean it would give them a season??? Or a good chance to do sort of like a teen version potentially just as something to use as a fillier because i really dont see international travel returning to normal until potentially Summer 2021 the earliest... so give us a season filmed around the US as a filler so we dont wait like a year for a season again!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 25, 2020, 10:24:15 AM
There are places in the US that are riskier than some countries. So sadly that is no more safer than other countries.

I am wondering if this might have to be done all by charter flights? That way at least the passenger manifests would be known.  Would take away airport drama but if all teams and production are tested every few days at least that would give some security... since we will likely not have a vaccine this year.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on May 25, 2020, 06:13:04 PM
There are places in the US that are riskier than some countries. So sadly that is no more safer than other countries.

I am wondering if this might have to be done all by charter flights? That way at least the passenger manifests would be known.  Would take away airport drama but if all teams and production are tested every few days at least that would give some security... since we will likely not have a vaccine this year.

That's a good idea, everything being done through charter flights. I'd probably also assume mostly rural legs with as little to no interaction with other people as possible. As well as barely any use for public transportation (yay for bringing back self driving for a majority of the legs?).
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Plaidmoon on May 25, 2020, 08:25:35 PM
There are places in the US that are riskier than some countries. So sadly that is no more safer than other countries.

I am wondering if this might have to be done all by charter flights? That way at least the passenger manifests would be known.  Would take away airport drama but if all teams and production are tested every few days at least that would give some security... since we will likely not have a vaccine this year.

Charter flights make sense. With far fewer flights right now, depending on commercial flights might extend the filming to 30 days instead of 21-22 days. Production might have to leave a day ahead of teams instead of 10-12 hours. Also, teams failing to get a ticket on a sold out flight or missing a connecting flight might easily end up a day behind everyone else.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on May 25, 2020, 10:06:02 PM
It may well have to be charter flights, given the current obstacles in many countries to scheduled commercial aviation. You might want to go to the CNN site or to Will Ripley’s own social media when he documented his flight back to Hong Kong where he lives, after reporting from Tokyo for three and a half months. Instead of five hours, it took him 23 hours before he could go home, after being held for a COVID19 test overnight. He had to go into an immediate 14 day quarantine.
That’s one thing that complicates any travel at this point. Other countries have closed their airports to any international traffic.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on July 01, 2020, 07:39:53 PM
Interesting interview with Phil

https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2020/06/29/future-travel-according-amazing-race-host-phil-keoghan/
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: RachelLeVega on July 01, 2020, 10:11:10 PM
Interesting interview with Phil

https://www.washingtonpost.com/travel/2020/06/29/future-travel-according-amazing-race-host-phil-keoghan/
Just going to extract some highlight points from that interview. In blue is the most critical of the interview.

Quote
And in his downtime, he’s been watching global plane traffic on flight tracking apps, pondering the future of travel and looking forward to seeing his family in New Zealand again.

Hannah Sampson: Have you been thinking about how you expect your own job and the production of the show to change?
Phil Keoghan: I’ve been thinking about it a lot, and I’ve talked about it a lot with people, because we come into contact with so many people when we travel. Say in Europe, how do we go to a country there and we’re working with drivers and security people and production people and we get in a confined space with them in a car and drive five hours to a location — how does all that work?

Are we wearing masks and are they vetted? Are we vetted? Are we constantly having our temperatures taken? I don’t know. I’m really interested.

Will people ever shake hands again? Like will we arrive in a foreign country and shake a hand? Are we going to be more like the Japanese and is it going to be a nod or a bow or an elbow? So much is going to change.

H:Do you have a target date in mind for when — not the show, necessarily — but when you think travel might be back?
P:But isn’t travel back? I mean, it’s not like it went anywhere here in the United States...I’m not sure that we will ever fly at the capacity that we flew before. Because I think what’s going to happen is travel is going to become more expensive because — just like the expense of adding in the extra security after 9/11 — we’re going to now have to add in a layer of expense to deal with the cost of medical checks. That overhead has got to be covered by somebody; there’s no such thing as a free lunch, right? Somebody’s got to pay for it, and ultimately it’s going to be the consumer.

Now, we’ll be safer as a result, but there’s going to be a cost to that, so I just don’t think we’re going to get back to the bus-terminal-type travel that we had before where it’s like everybody freewheeling into an airplane and picking up a $69 flight to go to Vegas. I just don’t think that that’s going to happen anymore.

H:Anything else that has been on your mind related to travel in the last couple months?
P:The sad part of it is I think that as travelers, we will connect less with people who are different and we will become more tribal and insular and maybe less accepting of difference over time. One of the great things about travel is it’s a great way to learn acceptance and to open your eyes to different cultures and different ways of thinking.

So I do worry that travel also would become too expensive for people who can’t afford to get away, and then it becomes just an elite commodity and that would be very sad. But at the same time, I do think we can all just be more polished, if you like, with the way that we travel, just a little more appreciative of the fact that people are looking after us. It’s an honor, I think, to be transported in a beautiful plane and fly somewhere.
Overall, a solid Q&A.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on July 06, 2020, 10:59:47 AM
I have no idea where to post this so if this is the wrong spot, then feel free to move it to the right spot.

Some news on a potential season 34 (pre-pandemic). Celebrities Lance Bass & Arden Myrin were going to be a team on an upcoming season that was scheduled to film in August of this year, presumably this is for season 34. Celebrities Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang were also in-talks of participating as well. Not sure if this was for a special "celebrity" edition, or if they were just going to be on a "regular" season. Obviously due to the pandemic, this has all likely been scraped or at the very least postponed.

This information is revealed here on this podcast starting at 19:20 and lasting for about ~8 minutes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hungry-girl-who-loves-flavor-w-arden-myrin/id1092361338?i=1000473753461
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TheRabbi on July 06, 2020, 11:32:54 AM
I have no idea where to post this so if this is the wrong spot, then feel free to move it to the right spot.

Some news on a potential season 34 (pre-pandemic). Celebrities Lance Bass & Arden Myrin were going to be a team on an upcoming season that was scheduled to film in August of this year, presumably this is for season 34. Celebrities Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang were also in-talks of participating as well. Not sure if this was for a special "celebrity" edition, or if they were just going to be on a "regular" season. Obviously due to the pandemic, this has all likely been scraped or at the very least postponed.

This information is revealed here on this podcast starting at 19:20 and lasting for about ~8 minutes: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hungry-girl-who-loves-flavor-w-arden-myrin/id1092361338?i=1000473753461

Interesting. I don't see their celebrity status as anything bigger than those we've already had, such as Joey Chestnut, Bethany Hamilton, or the gluttony of former sports players, so it doesn't necessarily mean a celebrity edition. I know it's all conjecture/spec, but such a shame if they were indeed planning on filming a season 34 this summer. I have my doubts TAR will ever get back out there. I just can't see it happening anytime soon. Maybe summer 2021 if there is indeed a widely available vaccine at that point.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on July 06, 2020, 06:48:50 PM
Further discussion of possible 34 news can go here:

https://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,36358.0.html

Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: CoriSanchi on November 18, 2020, 11:20:22 AM
Just some speculation about what the route could have been. This is based off of an interview from Bertram in which he said they were going to South America, Vietnam, and Austria, and from a crew member that contracted COVID who said they were going into northern Europe and near Italy.

United States --> London, England

London, England --> Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland --> Riga, Latvia

Riga, Latvia --> Vienna, Austria

Vienna, Austria --> Nha Trang, Vietnam

Nha Trang, Vietnam

Nha Trang, Vietnam --> Wellington, New Zealand

Wellington, New Zealand --> Melbourne, Australia

Melbourne, Australia --> Montevideo, Uruguay

Montevideo, Uruguay --> Sucre, Bolivia

Sucre, Bolivia --> Indianapolis, Indiana
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: RachelLeVega on November 18, 2020, 04:43:15 PM
Just some speculation about what the route could have been. This is based off of an interview from Bertram in which he said they were going to South America, Vietnam, and Austria, and from a crew member that contracted COVID who said they were going into northern Europe and near Italy.

United States --> London, England

London, England --> Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland --> Riga, Latvia

Riga, Latvia --> Vienna, Austria

Vienna, Austria --> Nha Trang, Vietnam

Nha Trang, Vietnam

Nha Trang, Vietnam --> Wellington, New Zealand

Wellington, New Zealand --> Melbourne, Australia

Melbourne, Australia --> Montevideo, Uruguay

Montevideo, Uruguay --> Sucre, Bolivia

Sucre, Bolivia --> Indianapolis, Indiana
I'm most surprised by Indianapolis. The only relatively creative task that I can see happening there is another racetrack task (Indy 500) and we just had one at the Chicagoland Speedway. I'd be curious to know what they were planning on doing there.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Leafsfan on November 18, 2020, 05:14:57 PM
Just some speculation about what the route could have been. This is based off of an interview from Bertram in which he said they were going to South America, Vietnam, and Austria, and from a crew member that contracted COVID who said they were going into northern Europe and near Italy.

United States --> London, England

London, England --> Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland --> Riga, Latvia

Riga, Latvia --> Vienna, Austria

Vienna, Austria --> Nha Trang, Vietnam

Nha Trang, Vietnam

Nha Trang, Vietnam --> Wellington, New Zealand

Wellington, New Zealand --> Melbourne, Australia

Melbourne, Australia --> Montevideo, Uruguay

Montevideo, Uruguay --> Sucre, Bolivia

Sucre, Bolivia --> Indianapolis, Indiana
I'm most surprised by Indianapolis. The only relatively creative task that I can see happening there is another racetrack task (Indy 500) and we just had one at the Chicagoland Speedway. I'd be curious to know what they were planning on doing there.

Most of these are guesses including Indianapolis. We know about London/Glasgow, Sweden was next. Austria/Vietnam and South America were dropped by BVM in an interview. That's all is known.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: CoriSanchi on November 18, 2020, 06:23:42 PM
Just some speculation about what the route could have been. This is based off of an interview from Bertram in which he said they were going to South America, Vietnam, and Austria, and from a crew member that contracted COVID who said they were going into northern Europe and near Italy.

United States --> London, England

London, England --> Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland --> Riga, Latvia

Riga, Latvia --> Vienna, Austria

Vienna, Austria --> Nha Trang, Vietnam

Nha Trang, Vietnam

Nha Trang, Vietnam --> Wellington, New Zealand

Wellington, New Zealand --> Melbourne, Australia

Melbourne, Australia --> Montevideo, Uruguay

Montevideo, Uruguay --> Sucre, Bolivia

Sucre, Bolivia --> Indianapolis, Indiana
I'm most surprised by Indianapolis. The only relatively creative task that I can see happening there is another racetrack task (Indy 500) and we just had one at the Chicagoland Speedway. I'd be curious to know what they were planning on doing there.

Most of these are guesses including Indianapolis. We know about London/Glasgow, Sweden was next. Austria/Vietnam and South America were dropped by BVM in an interview. That's all is known.
Yes, it’s guesses/speculation. Should’ve clarified better. I’m speculating what the original route could’ve been based off of interviews and such. Going off of patterns from the past few seasons such as visiting countries with only one prior visit (i.e, Iceland, Belgium, Zimbabwe, Croatia, Paraguay, Kazakhstan) + a new final leg destination. Indianapolis was more wish listy than true speculation but the other countries/cities are my educated guesses
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: redskevin88 on November 18, 2020, 06:29:47 PM
Vietnam was visited in Season 29 and 31 and 30 visited Chiang Mai so I think they would have skipped Indochina.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: CoriSanchi on November 18, 2020, 06:38:12 PM
Vietnam was visited in Season 29 and 31 and 30 visited Chiang Mai so I think they would have skipped Indochina.
Bertram said in an interview that he got calls from their Austria and their Vietnam people telling them they were worried about covid, so I took those as confirmed countries. I guessed Nha Trang because that’s a cool city away from the Chinese border that’s not Ho Chi Minh City, which they just visited in 31
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on November 18, 2020, 06:44:43 PM
Da Nang would be a great option. Central Vietnam hasn't visited since TAR 3 (it was Hue and aforementioned Da Nang).
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on November 18, 2020, 06:48:58 PM
Vietnam was visited in Season 29 and 31 and 30 visited Chiang Mai so I think they would have skipped Indochina.
Bertram said in an interview that he got calls from their Austria and their Vietnam people telling them they were worried about covid, so I took those as confirmed countries. I guessed Nha Trang because that’s a cool city away from the Chinese border that’s not Ho Chi Minh City, which they just visited in 31

Does the Vietnam tourism ministry incentivize the show to go there, I wonder? They go there all the time. I'd also think it being cheaper than the other big countries in East Asia is a reason.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on November 18, 2020, 08:53:03 PM
Hypothetically speaking if they get to film over the Summer, I wonder how much they'll have to change up the tasks since this was supposed to be a winter season.

I'd think one thing this has taught them is they don't need to film another season at the height of flu season in February. Ofc I'm not comparing COVID to the flu in terms of severity but idk they shouldn't be running around the world at that specific point of time. Imagine how disastrous it would be if someone involved in the show got the flu. Do they have a backup plan if team(s) got sick on the course?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Marionete on November 24, 2020, 04:38:43 PM
We've seen teammates feel unwell and keep racing.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on November 24, 2020, 06:47:23 PM
Even there are flights between Australia and Chile. Qantas does have non-stop flight to Santiago, while LATAM Chile does have a connecting flight via Auckland, New Zealand.

Santiago would have been a great choice for a penultimate leg city. It hasn't had a full leg before in US version.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on November 24, 2020, 08:30:15 PM
We've seen teammates feel unwell and keep racing.

Getting slightly sick is one thing, getting the flu is another. It’d be enough to make someone too sick to compete and I’d think it would spread like wildfire throughout the production if someone got it.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on November 26, 2020, 09:10:37 PM
It was mentioned earlier that one couple from this season broked up. I checked their Instagrams and she is still following him while he is not following her anymore. I just wonder how open will they be to race together when filming resume... What would production do if they would not want to return to continue racing together?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TheRabbi on November 27, 2020, 11:35:46 AM
Just some speculation about what the route could have been. This is based off of an interview from Bertram in which he said they were going to South America, Vietnam, and Austria, and from a crew member that contracted COVID who said they were going into northern Europe and near Italy.

United States --> London, England

London, England --> Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland --> Riga, Latvia

Riga, Latvia --> Vienna, Austria

Vienna, Austria --> Nha Trang, Vietnam

Nha Trang, Vietnam

Nha Trang, Vietnam --> Wellington, New Zealand

Wellington, New Zealand --> Melbourne, Australia

Melbourne, Australia --> Montevideo, Uruguay

Montevideo, Uruguay --> Sucre, Bolivia

Sucre, Bolivia --> Indianapolis, Indiana

Northern Sweden was confirmed as leg 4, because Bertram said he made the cancellation call while he was there waiting for contestants.

My guess would be Austria leg 5 (per Bertram), Italy leg 6 (per that one crew leak if you consider that as acceptable evidence), then maybe a double leg in an African country for legs 7 and 8, and then South America legs 9-11 before the US finale. The one crew leak said they were avoiding Asia entirely. As for Bertram's Vietnam leak, I have no idea how both Vietnam and South America could be done on the same route if the first 5-6 legs are all in Europe. Yes, I know it is technically possible, I just don't see it as likely at all. Since they are well familiar with the Vietnam production company that helps them on location, maybe the company just knew they were filming 33 at that time and was checking in to see how they were doing and if they were planning on actually finishing it - I don't know, just speculating.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on November 27, 2020, 11:49:37 AM
Are we sure he meant Vietnam for 33? Maybe they were planning to go there for 34 and the person they work with in the tourism ministry called to talk about it? Another possibility is that they’ve already planned to change the route.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on November 27, 2020, 09:56:13 PM
Just some speculation about what the route could have been. This is based off of an interview from Bertram in which he said they were going to South America, Vietnam, and Austria, and from a crew member that contracted COVID who said they were going into northern Europe and near Italy.

United States --> London, England

London, England --> Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland

Glasgow, Scotland --> Riga, Latvia

Riga, Latvia --> Vienna, Austria

Vienna, Austria --> Nha Trang, Vietnam

Nha Trang, Vietnam

Nha Trang, Vietnam --> Wellington, New Zealand

Wellington, New Zealand --> Melbourne, Australia

Melbourne, Australia --> Montevideo, Uruguay

Montevideo, Uruguay --> Sucre, Bolivia

Sucre, Bolivia --> Indianapolis, Indiana

Northern Sweden was confirmed as leg 4, because Bertram said he made the cancellation call while he was there waiting for contestants.

My guess would be Austria leg 5 (per Bertram), Italy leg 6 (per that one crew leak if you consider that as acceptable evidence), then maybe a double leg in an African country for legs 7 and 8, and then South America legs 9-11 before the US finale. The one crew leak said they were avoiding Asia entirely. As for Bertram's Vietnam leak, I have no idea how both Vietnam and South America could be done on the same route if the first 5-6 legs are all in Europe. Yes, I know it is technically possible, I just don't see it as likely at all. Since they are well familiar with the Vietnam production company that helps them on location, maybe the company just knew they were filming 33 at that time and was checking in to see how they were doing and if they were planning on actually finishing it - I don't know, just speculating.

Regarding about the destinations have been suspended due to the pandemic, I would guess Sweden (Leg 3) after Scotland and Tyrol region in Austria (Leg 4, which include a Pit Stop across the border in Italy); with double legs in Africa (5-6), Asia (7-8; which include Vietnam) and Australia (9-10), and a penultimate leg in South America (probably Chile or Peru) before the final destination in the US. It could be a 6-continent race hasn't seen since TAR 11.

As I mentioned earlier in above post, Australia does have a direct flight to South America either Qantas (non-stop) or LATAM Chile (direct or via Auckland, New Zealand).

Just my opinion
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 27, 2020, 11:55:20 PM
Sweden was Leg 3 I believe... But there was def time for another leg inbetween So I canot be sure.

Could someone rewatch the video and see? Seems IRC that BVM said Leg 3... ???

We had someone on site, we watched the set up. Sad day when it was cancelled.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on November 28, 2020, 12:31:33 AM
The problem with starting or ending in Australia or NZ is that you’re at lead a ten hour flight from any other big airport and there are very few flights from them to the US. IMO going through one of the big airports in East Asia and working your way down makes more sense to cut back on another long flight. You could either go from Australia/NZ to somewhere in Africa if you’re going West or South America if it’s east.

Although, there will be a couple more US to NZ routes over the next year as things get back to normal.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 28, 2020, 08:08:34 AM
Sweden was Leg 3 I believe... But there was def time for another leg inbetween So I canot be sure.

Could someone rewatch the video and see? Seems IRC that BVM said Leg 3... ???

We had someone on site, we watched the set up. Sad day when it was cancelled.
Peach, I believe CBS in announcing the suspension of filming confirmed three legs had been filmed at that point with the strong implication these three legs were in England and Scotland.  Sweden was to be the following leg.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on November 28, 2020, 09:19:16 AM
This is what has confused me for a very long time; in every single official statement from the media, it was always said that THREE episodes had been filmed before production was suspended. So three episodes = three legs? The weird part is that we only have sightings from the first two legs and none from the third. The other weird part is that would mean they did THREE legs all in the United Kingdom, which is more than they've ever done in one location before I think, which would be kind of crazy. So it's just hard to believe.

So if we're to believe the 'three episodes' statement from the media, this is the schedule:

Leg 1: United States of America → London, England, United Kingdom
Leg 2: London, England, United Kingdom → Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom
Leg 3: Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom
---SUSPENDED---
Intended leg 4: Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom → Unconfirmed City, Sweden (Only production flew out there, not contestants)

...OR...

A theory I have is that they actually didn't complete three legs; they only completed two but got suspended in the MIDDLE of leg three... and by middle, I mean start of leg three. Basically, I could see all the teams departing the leg 2 Pit Stop in Glasgow and starting leg 3 by heading to the airport to catch a flight to Sweden. But before they flew over there is when CBS made the decision to suspend the season. So all the teams were literally all just waiting around the airport for the start of their leg 3 flight to Sweden when the suspension news came in. So maybe the reason all the media reports keep saying three episodes is because it's because they had only barely just started filming episode three.

So in that case the schedule would be:

Leg 1: United States of America → London, England, United Kingdom
Leg 2: London, England, United Kingdom → Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom
---SUSPENDED---
Leg 3: Glasgow, Scotland, United Kingdom → Unconfirmed City, Sweden (Only production flew out there, not contestants; suspended after teams departed from Pit Stop to start leg 3, but before teams flew out to Sweden)

Personally I'd rather my first 'schedule' be right since it's an extra full episode, but I just realistically cannot see how they filmed a whole three episodes in the United Kingdom and plus how we had no sightings at all from that supposed third leg in Glasgow? I don't know, unless I'm missing something or someone else knows something I don't. Otherwise, these are just my thoughts/opinions.

Does anyone else have any thoughts/opinions on this?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: stunami on November 28, 2020, 09:57:14 AM
Didn't we have sighting up north of Glasgow? in some Lakes? maybe one full leg in Glasgow and one leg: Lakes/Glasgow
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 28, 2020, 01:41:10 PM
Here’s a link to a contemporary reporting from March on the suspension. A “trio of legs” means three legs.

 https://deadline.com/2020/02/coronavirus-amazing-race-stopped-production-cbs-survivor-1202870836/ (https://deadline.com/2020/02/coronavirus-amazing-race-stopped-production-cbs-survivor-1202870836/)
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Nuku on November 28, 2020, 01:45:19 PM
Maybe a mega leg?? it says trio of episodes not legs and after this concept being introduced this season it may have been used again??
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on November 28, 2020, 06:13:01 PM
Another thing to remember is some of these harder hit places that we think they were visiting like Sweden and Italy can get to some sort of herd immunity with lower vaccination bc so many people have had it. I read an estimate that the NYC metro area can get to it with less than half vaccination.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 28, 2020, 09:09:15 PM
Another thing to remember is some of these harder hit places that we think they were visiting like Sweden and Italy can get to some sort of herd immunity with lower vaccination bc so many people have had it. I read an estimate that the NYC metro area can get to it with less than half vaccination.
We don’t know that. There’s evidence that COVID-19 immunity from illness is short lived,(I.e., people getting reinfected) and the jury is still out on how long immunity lasts from vaccination. One of the issues with fast tracking vaccine candidates is that very question.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: betheactress on November 29, 2020, 10:46:22 AM
Another thing to remember is some of these harder hit places that we think they were visiting like Sweden and Italy can get to some sort of herd immunity with lower vaccination bc so many people have had it. I read an estimate that the NYC metro area can get to it with less than half vaccination.
We don’t know that. There’s evidence that COVID-19 immunity from illness is short lived,(I.e., people getting reinfected) and the jury is still out on how long immunity lasts from vaccination. One of the issues with fast tracking vaccine candidates is that very question.

Source??
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 29, 2020, 11:38:02 AM
You can find the reporting on CNN.com, and I also found it on the Apple News feed  It’s very recent reporting within the last week. Try googling it.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on November 29, 2020, 11:45:47 AM
Here’s a link to a contemporary reporting from March on the suspension. A “trio of legs” means three legs.

 https://deadline.com/2020/02/coronavirus-amazing-race-stopped-production-cbs-survivor-1202870836/ (https://deadline.com/2020/02/coronavirus-amazing-race-stopped-production-cbs-survivor-1202870836/)

"Having already filmed only a trio of episodes in the UK,..." this is exactly what that article said.

The videointerview with cameraman also confirmed that they filmed 3 episodes with last episode being in Glasgow, Scotland.


So I am assuming first 3 legs (or 3 episodes = normal leg and mega leg) in the UK? Sweden as supposed 4th leg/episode that didn't happen?


Is there anyone who have access to original TAR33 timeline and can share dates maybe? I do not remember.

I would say based on these sources only three episodes were fully filmed and they were in UK.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Malcooolm on November 29, 2020, 02:06:52 PM
Here’s a link to a contemporary reporting from March on the suspension. A “trio of legs” means three legs.

 https://deadline.com/2020/02/coronavirus-amazing-race-stopped-production-cbs-survivor-1202870836/ (https://deadline.com/2020/02/coronavirus-amazing-race-stopped-production-cbs-survivor-1202870836/)

"Having already filmed only a trio of episodes in the UK,..." this is exactly what that article said.

The videointerview with cameraman also confirmed that they filmed 3 episodes with last episode being in Glasgow, Scotland.


So I am assuming first 3 legs (or 3 episodes = normal leg and mega leg) in the UK? Sweden as supposed 4th leg/episode that didn't happen?


Is there anyone who have access to original TAR33 timeline and can share dates maybe? I do not remember.

I would say based on these sources only three episodes were fully filmed and they were in UK.
I believe the show started filming on February 22nd, the London leg was done by the 23rd, Leg 2 Glasgow was done by the 25th, and everyone was sent home on the 28th and 29th. From interviews and such it sure sounded like everyone was sent home from Glasgow after three episodes had been filmed. There was definitely time for a second leg in Glasgow and the lack of sightings don't surprise me much as there were only a few for Leg 2. Plus, there would be even less if they were out in the countryside where nobody would see them.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on November 29, 2020, 05:04:41 PM
I personally hope it was in fact three full episodes filmed and completed instead of just two. The only thing that makes it seem unlikely to me is, why they would have three legs in a row back-to-back-to-back all in the same region, especially coming off the heels of TAR32 where they just did a different country for every single leg? Going from TAR32 every leg = a different country to TAR33 = three legs in a row all in the United Kingdom just seems... strange. But regardless, I still do hope it was three filmed.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on November 29, 2020, 05:13:15 PM
I personally hope it was in fact three full episodes filmed and completed instead of just two. The only thing that makes it seem unlikely to me is, why they would have three legs in a row back-to-back-to-back all in the same region, especially coming off the heels of TAR32 where they just did a different country for every single leg? Going from TAR32 every leg = a different country to TAR33 = three legs in a row all in the United Kingdom just seems... strange. But regardless, I still do hope it was three filmed.

I think at least 1 of these 3 UK legs can be replacement leg for leg cancelled because of Covid.

It's strange though. The only time we had 3 full legs in same country was China in TAR14.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Malcooolm on November 29, 2020, 06:12:44 PM
I personally hope it was in fact three full episodes filmed and completed instead of just two. The only thing that makes it seem unlikely to me is, why they would have three legs in a row back-to-back-to-back all in the same region, especially coming off the heels of TAR32 where they just did a different country for every single leg? Going from TAR32 every leg = a different country to TAR33 = three legs in a row all in the United Kingdom just seems... strange. But regardless, I still do hope it was three filmed.

I think at least 1 of these 3 UK legs can be replacement leg for leg cancelled because of Covid.

It's strange though. The only time we had 3 full legs in same country was China in TAR14.
And even then, one of them was a superleg so it was technically only two legs. At least it’s one England leg and two Scotland legs, so it’ll at least feel like two different countries. I’m sure they scrambled and made a second Glasgow leg after they saw countries beginning to pull out
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ianthebalance on November 29, 2020, 07:54:55 PM
And it wasn’t going to be a traditional route anyways
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: betheactress on November 29, 2020, 08:18:10 PM
You can find the reporting on CNN.com, and I also found it on the Apple News feed  It’s very recent reporting within the last week. Try googling it.

You mean where it says (https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/health/coronavirus-reinfections-what-we-know-wellness/index.html) out of 38 million cases, only a handful dozen were reinfections, which is a very low rate (0.000126%) which seems very good to me. Another CNN article (https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/health/coronavirus-immunity-lasts-months-study-wellness/index.html) cites an un peer reviewed study that had immunity lasting longer than 6 months. So I would be very careful with your words. Thank you!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: elthemagnifico on November 29, 2020, 09:10:37 PM
The real question is why would they have to wait until Feb 2020 to film S33, couldn't they film in mid or late 2019?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: stunami on November 29, 2020, 09:39:02 PM
There was a news article that talked about a leg in Ireland... Maybe between London and Glasgow?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Malcooolm on November 29, 2020, 09:54:05 PM
The real question is why would they have to wait until Feb 2020 to film S33, couldn't they film in mid or late 2019?
They filmed Tough As Nails during that time period which is unfortunate because if TAR went first then they would’ve been able to finishing filming TAN at some point in the last few months AND we would’ve still have TAR33 in the can
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on November 29, 2020, 10:08:02 PM
The real question is why would they have to wait until Feb 2020 to film S33, couldn't they film in mid or late 2019?
They filmed Tough As Nails during that time period which is unfortunate because if TAR went first then they would’ve been able to finishing filming TAN at some point in the last few months AND we would’ve still have TAR33 in the can

The problem is the production of TAR 33 was originally planned for November - December 2019 date but had been pushed to February 2020. When Phil's new show Tough as Nails was placed for January 2020 production schedule.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on November 29, 2020, 10:58:16 PM
You can find the reporting on CNN.com, and I also found it on the Apple News feed  It’s very recent reporting within the last week. Try googling it.

You mean where it says (https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/health/coronavirus-reinfections-what-we-know-wellness/index.html) out of 38 million cases, only a handful dozen were reinfections, which is a very low rate (0.000126%) which seems very good to me. Another CNN article (https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/health/coronavirus-immunity-lasts-months-study-wellness/index.html) cites an un peer reviewed study that had immunity lasting longer than 6 months. So I would be very careful with your words. Thank you!

I read multiple news feeds from different sources available to me on a continuing basis. So that item alone would have been one among many. If I was relying on a single source I would have posted a link if feasible. The questions about reinfection and the amount of time one might get  immunity via prior infection, or via a vaccine is not settled. It isn't safe to assume how much time it lasts through either mode. Comparison to other illnesses cased by viruses and other types of coronaviruses (e.g., the common cold or influenza) isn't always useful.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: betheactress on November 29, 2020, 11:15:45 PM
 :)x
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on November 30, 2020, 10:11:53 AM
I personally hope it was in fact three full episodes filmed and completed instead of just two. The only thing that makes it seem unlikely to me is, why they would have three legs in a row back-to-back-to-back all in the same region, especially coming off the heels of TAR32 where they just did a different country for every single leg? Going from TAR32 every leg = a different country to TAR33 = three legs in a row all in the United Kingdom just seems... strange. But regardless, I still do hope it was three filmed.

I think at least 1 of these 3 UK legs can be replacement leg for leg cancelled because of Covid.

It's strange though. The only time we had 3 full legs in same country was China in TAR14.
And even then, one of them was a superleg so it was technically only two legs. At least it’s one England leg and two Scotland legs, so it’ll at least feel like two different countries. I’m sure they scrambled and made a second Glasgow leg after they saw countries beginning to pull out
Wikipedia actually is now counting England, Scotland, and Wales as different countries. So for example TAR31, instead of, Leg 11 (Netherlands --> United Kingdom), it is now, Leg 11 (Netherlands --> England). Just a fun fact!  :)x
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: HavaDrPepper on November 30, 2020, 02:00:49 PM
You can find the reporting on CNN.com, and I also found it on the Apple News feed  It’s very recent reporting within the last week. Try googling it.

You mean where it says (https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/16/health/coronavirus-reinfections-what-we-know-wellness/index.html) out of 38 million cases, only a handful dozen were reinfections, which is a very low rate (0.000126%) which seems very good to me. Another CNN article (https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/health/coronavirus-immunity-lasts-months-study-wellness/index.html) cites an un peer reviewed study that had immunity lasting longer than 6 months. So I would be very careful with your words. Thank you!

I read multiple news feeds from different sources available to me on a continuing basis. So that item alone would have been one among many. If I was relying on a single source I would have posted a link if feasible. The questions about reinfection and the amount of time one might get  immunity via prior infection, or via a vaccine is not settled. It isn't safe to assume how much time it lasts through either mode. Comparison to other illnesses cased by viruses and other types of coronaviruses (e.g., the common cold or influenza) isn't always useful.

I agree with theschnauzers on this issue.  Locally, I know of at least 1 person that was reinfected.  First time he had very mild symptoms. Second time the symptoms were much worse. First infection in late April, 2nd infection in early October. I also personally know individuals that have had it.  My neighbor across the street and his wife being 2 of them. Their info from our local health department says they should be immune for 4 months.  2 friends that live in a small town just 7 miles from me that is located in a different county had it as well. Their health department is telling them 3 months.

So even those "in the know" differ on how long immunity lasts.  IMO it will be a long time before this is settled even with the vaccines becoming available.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: stunami on November 30, 2020, 02:27:32 PM
I'm thinking they won't be filming before at LEAST fall 2021, and even then it will be only in countries where more than half the population is vaccinated, and the whole cast and crew as well.

If they continue after the 3 legs that they already have, I'm expecting some legs in countries that are more safe (Australia and New Zealand would work well now, but would depend of the restriction coming in. Two legs in Canada would work  also, like one in Québec city to be a bit foreign, and maybe one in Atlantic Canada or Vancouver).
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on November 30, 2020, 02:45:14 PM
We already have 3 legs in english speaking country, so I am not sure about Australia/NZ or Canada. Also these destinations are considered boring by TAR production.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: redwings8831 on November 30, 2020, 03:15:46 PM
Also these destinations are considered boring by TAR production.

Wait what :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 30, 2020, 03:37:55 PM

Also these destinations are considered boring by TAR production.

Sure would love to see the source on this?? ???

Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Nuku on November 30, 2020, 03:47:33 PM
listen

international travel will not be a thing until 2022 i am telling you!! this next year is still a write off about adapting to life with/eliminating/after covid!!

i think the best move by TAR would be do a celebrity race going around the United States or a specific are like!! i just want to watch more race LOL!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on November 30, 2020, 03:53:12 PM
Okay guys, enough....

Let's get back to real speculation please. Preferably with a REAL basis in fact.  Dates/sightings/cast/routes etc.

This is not a bitch and moan thread nor or we having one now.

So watch it okay?  Thanks.



Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 02, 2020, 02:03:54 PM
I'm thinking they won't be filming before at LEAST fall 2021, and even then it will be only in countries where more than half the population is vaccinated, and the whole cast and crew as well.

If they continue after the 3 legs that they already have, I'm expecting some legs in countries that are more safe (Australia and New Zealand would work well now, but would depend of the restriction coming in. Two legs in Canada would work  also, like one in Québec city to be a bit foreign, and maybe one in Atlantic Canada or Vancouver).

Quebec would be cool. There’s still a lot of Canada they’ve never been to and if they went there, they’d get a different flair.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 02, 2020, 02:20:56 PM
The question mark about the vaccines at this point is that we don’t know if it stops you from transmitting it. That’s just gonna take some time so I agree that we’re looking at maybe next summer at the earliest but probably not until the fall or winter. Richer countries should be looking at being mostly back to normal by May but middle income countries are looking at another year of this. Then again CBS has deep pockets and money talks. They could always work out some kind of deal with middle income countries they frequent’s (like Vietnam) tourism ministries to go there if they vaccinate the locals /test /what have you because they need the money and it’s advertising to get their tourism back up for summer ‘22.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on December 02, 2020, 09:01:41 PM
I think at our absolute luckiest, the season resumes filming by the summer of 2021 and airs in Fall 2021 coupled with the return of Survivor.

At our absolute unluckiest, the series gets cancelled.

Take your pick!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 03, 2020, 05:27:09 PM
This is some sort of route I could see working if they scrap 33:

Start- Quebec, Canada / 2x  Japan leg / Busan, SK/ Singapore / Auckland, NZ / 2x Australia /  Germany / Austria/  Boston

It's still four continents
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on December 03, 2020, 06:21:28 PM
This is some sort of route I could see working if they scrap 33:

Start- Quebec, Canada / 2x  Japan leg / Busan, SK/ Singapore / Auckland, NZ / 2x Australia /  Germany / Austria/  Boston

It's still four continents
I love this route however going from Australia to Germany is a very long jump that I don't know could happen. I could see Australia to South Africa, or Australia to somewhere in the Middle East, but I don't know about Europe. This is just my opinion.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Maanca on December 03, 2020, 06:51:48 PM
Maybe one silver lining about a restart on filming this season is that production's gotten the chance to see the verbal thrashing season 32's gotten online and will implement some improvements to 33. They'll realize that clearly the current season's ideas aren't winning the audience over.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 03, 2020, 07:30:33 PM
This is some sort of route I could see working if they scrap 33:

Start- Quebec, Canada / 2x  Japan leg / Busan, SK/ Singapore / Auckland, NZ / 2x Australia /  Germany / Austria/  Boston

It's still four continents
I love this route however going from Australia to Germany is a very long jump that I don't know could happen. I could see Australia to South Africa, or Australia to somewhere in the Middle East, but I don't know about Europe. This is just my opinion.

Yeah, I had that thought too. Maybe cut out one of the Asia legs and go from Australia to somewhere in the Middle East.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: kyleisalive on December 04, 2020, 01:14:46 PM
This is some sort of route I could see working if they scrap 33:

Start- Quebec, Canada / 2x  Japan leg / Busan, SK/ Singapore / Auckland, NZ / 2x Australia /  Germany / Austria/  Boston

It's still four continents

This would have to be a long way down the line for the Canada leg; Quebec has had one of the highest case-loads of COVID in all of Canada since the start of everything (more than Ontario and Alberta).  It won't be a contender for a go-to destination for a fair chunk of time.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: stunami on December 05, 2020, 10:03:19 AM
This is some sort of route I could see working if they scrap 33:

Start- Quebec, Canada / 2x  Japan leg / Busan, SK/ Singapore / Auckland, NZ / 2x Australia /  Germany / Austria/  Boston

It's still four continents

This would have to be a long way down the line for the Canada leg; Quebec has had one of the highest case-loads of COVID in all of Canada since the start of everything (more than Ontario and Alberta).  It won't be a contender for a go-to destination for a fair chunk of time.

That's true, but for the second wave, Quebec is doing better than Alberta and Ontario. And the city of Quebec itself is doing fine. The safest would be a leg in Quebec and maybe a Leg in Atlantic Canada
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 05, 2020, 03:53:50 PM
This is some sort of route I could see working if they scrap 33:

Start- Quebec, Canada / 2x  Japan leg / Busan, SK/ Singapore / Auckland, NZ / 2x Australia /  Germany / Austria/  Boston

It's still four continents

This would have to be a long way down the line for the Canada leg; Quebec has had one of the highest case-loads of COVID in all of Canada since the start of everything (more than Ontario and Alberta).  It won't be a contender for a go-to destination for a fair chunk of time.

That's true, but for the second wave, Quebec is doing better than Alberta and Ontario. And the city of Quebec itself is doing fine. The safest would be a leg in Quebec and maybe a Leg in Atlantic Canada
I'm mostly going off of four legs in English speaking countries being boring.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on December 05, 2020, 04:07:51 PM
This is some sort of route I could see working if they scrap 33:

Start- Quebec, Canada / 2x  Japan leg / Busan, SK/ Singapore / Auckland, NZ / 2x Australia /  Germany / Austria/  Boston

It's still four continents
Actually five including the final leg. Canada, New Zealand, Australia (two legs), and United States.
This would have to be a long way down the line for the Canada leg; Quebec has had one of the highest case-loads of COVID in all of Canada since the start of everything (more than Ontario and Alberta).  It won't be a contender for a go-to destination for a fair chunk of time.

That's true, but for the second wave, Quebec is doing better than Alberta and Ontario. And the city of Quebec itself is doing fine. The safest would be a leg in Quebec and maybe a Leg in Atlantic Canada
I'm mostly going off of four legs in English speaking countries being boring.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: justmjlayson on December 12, 2020, 06:02:44 AM
This is not a wishlist thread, guys! Go discuss on what destinations are going to be in it in the discussion topic.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on December 12, 2020, 06:48:19 AM
Any news? UK started with vaccination recently, not sure about US.

Is resume within 1st half of 2021 possible?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 13, 2020, 08:51:15 AM
Any news? UK started with vaccination recently, not sure about US.

Is resume within 1st half of 2021 possible?

I think they may be proceding under that impression. However, it is too soon TBD. Worldwide many countries are locked down.   The vaccine is still a bit unknown as far as effacy goes. I think we still have to wait and see. But I hear production would love to get 33 completed and perhaps even a couple more seasons in the can in 2021. SO...HOPE!!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 13, 2020, 04:59:27 PM
Any news? UK started with vaccination recently, not sure about US.

Is resume within 1st half of 2021 possible?

They’re at the mercy of a good worldwide roll out. I saw an interview with the CEO of Delta on TV and he said they haven’t made up their minds about vaccine passports for domestic travel but governments are telling them they’re going to mandate it for international travels. Qantas has already said they’re going to for international travel starting probably in Q2.

The typical contestant is probably pretty low on the vaccination priority list (young and healthy, professional job holders who can work from home) and from I’ve read, it’s gonna be June or July before everyone will have gotten it. So first half might be pushing it.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: elthemagnifico on December 18, 2020, 11:01:27 AM
Idk if it's worthy or not to post here or if you have already watched it  or not, but Phil gave hint on this interview that the new season may continue to film on 2021

https://twitter.com/AmazingRaceCBS/status/1339664136087617537?s=19
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 18, 2020, 12:19:17 PM
Idk if it's worthy or not to post here or if you have already watched it  or not, but Phil gave hint on this interview that the new season may continue to film on 2021

https://twitter.com/AmazingRaceCBS/status/1339664136087617537?s=19

Approx 7:52+

We do not know at this time if the same cast is still willing/able to go. TBD.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 18, 2020, 05:10:46 PM
I wonder if the contestants live in concentrated areas. Since all the crew live in LA, it might be easier to get them all vaccinated at roughly the same time since they're all under the same plan. Contestants are going to be trickier because they're scattered across the country.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 18, 2020, 05:14:36 PM
They'll just have them do it locally and provide documentation
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 18, 2020, 05:29:53 PM
I’d also think CBS will put together a mega vaccine passport to show countries and/or airlines that everyone involved has gotten it.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on December 18, 2020, 07:24:46 PM
As I understand it, the CDC is requiring the issuance of a vaccination document, on wallet size paper, to document the two vaccinations necessary in the US. Have no idea what other countries are going to do. The other issue may be that people are going to have to have both dosages from the same vaccine type. I’ve not seen anything to suggest any trials are being done to support a cross-manufacturing set of vaccinations.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Leafsfan on December 18, 2020, 08:23:28 PM
Via Gamer

https://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/2020/12/amazing-race-32-producers-interview/
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 18, 2020, 09:09:07 PM
As I understand it, the CDC is requiring the issuance of a vaccination document, on wallet size paper, to document the two vaccinations necessary in the US. Have no idea what other countries are going to do. The other issue may be that people are going to have to have both dosages from the same vaccine type. I’ve not seen anything to suggest any trials are being done to support a cross-manufacturing set of vaccinations.

I saw an interview with Delta’s CEO a few days ago where he said that they haven’t made any decisions about domestic vaccine passports but foreign governments are telling them they’re going to be mandatory for entry.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Maanca on December 19, 2020, 01:19:51 AM
Sounds like the TAR producers may've been listening to this season's criticisms after all :D

Bert & Elise are mulling over new alliance-stemming rules for next season - https://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/2020/12/amazing-race-32-producers-interview
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 19, 2020, 11:07:16 PM
If they decide to go the tweak the route way, they could always do the truncated season on the regular season's time frame. I see them having to do lots of long haul flights (they're almost certainly going to go to NZ and Australia if they do this and they're at least ten hour flight from another population center ) and that way they could have three or four full rest days to make up for it.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 20, 2020, 12:41:49 PM
Sounds like the TAR producers may've been listening to this season's criticisms after all :D

Bert & Elise are mulling over new alliance-stemming rules for next season - https://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/2020/12/amazing-race-32-producers-interview
Just going to highlight this excerpt in the interview that I wanted to reiterate about the loopholes in tasks:
“I’m going to be really honest with you,” Doganieri told me. “I think we’re going to have to put a rule on that in the future.”

“It does take the thrill out of it a little bit for me because these are not group challenges for 11 teams to participate in [as] a group."

The rappelling challenge in Germany, which required teams to notice letters on a rooftop and then unscramble them, was effectively neutered by teams sharing the answer to the puzzle part, and I mentioned that.

“Like you said, we put a lot of work months and months of research development, scouting, challenge decisions being made. It is a little frustrating to watch when somebody is giving information to another contestant, and the other team is not getting that information because then to me, it starts to affect what maybe should have been a little bit of a different outcome,” Doganieri said.

She said it’d likely be the latter: “We wouldn’t want somebody just share information with another team. It might be challenge-specific, because sometimes we might want them to work with a group.”

Doganieri also said that the idea of alliances more broadly isn’t something that troubles her.

“I don’t mind the alliances—I think there’s something really exciting about that, and when other teams don’t even know there’s an alliance or they think that they’re part of an alliance,” she said. “I like all that intrigue; I think that’s kind of fun. But, you know, helping a team that might be struggling because you want them to advance over another team? I think we have to look at that, and I don’t know what the answer to that as yet, but it’s definitely something we’re going to look at.”

The questions asked by Andy hit the nail on the head. Answered all the questions I had overall. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: dryedmangoez on December 20, 2020, 01:52:37 PM
Yes, it was a good interview. And seeing Elise's comments was mostly reassuring. I say mostly because I don't want to expect too much lol
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: stunami on December 21, 2020, 09:40:27 AM
I feel like they think Alliances are fine (which they are) because it does help create a bit of Drama.

I'm sure if they just add a rule (remind the teams at the beginning and also on the clues) that sharing ANSWERS to a challenge is forbidden, it would be a game changer
Teams would still be able to 'help' each other, by pointing the right direction from where they got the clue, or ask each other questions, help with flights, etc.

But by adding just that one rule, we wouldn't have a situation of Berlin/Manila again. Because team would be penalize if they share the correct answer to another team.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 21, 2020, 09:48:51 AM
I feel like they think Alliances are fine (which they are) because it does help create a bit of Drama.

I'm sure if they just add a rule (remind the teams at the beginning and also on the clues) that sharing ANSWERS to a challenge is forbidden, it would be a game changer
Teams would still be able to 'help' each other, by pointing the right direction from where they got the clue, or ask each other questions, help with flights, etc.

But by adding just that one rule, we wouldn't have a situation of Berlin/Manila again. Because team would be penalize if they share the correct answer to another team.

Yeah, alliances are fine imo as long as they don’t get into blatant answer sharing. Or limit the amount of teams in one. Five just doesn’t make sense.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on December 26, 2020, 05:44:10 PM
They are going to start with vaccination in all EU countries tomorrow...


I think TAR33 may be europe heavy season because of it. They will probably visit South America as well. My guess would be first 3 legs in UK, then 4 legs in South America and then 4 legs in Europe.

They are definitely skipping Africa.

Asia? Idk, maybe some more developed countries like UAE, Singapur, Japan or South Korea? But I still can't see them staying in overcrowded metropolitan cities for safety reason.

I still think Australia & New Zealand (and also Canada) are uninteresting countries from producer standpoint because they are just too similiar to US.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on December 26, 2020, 07:36:34 PM
There are still unanswered questions because of the newly confirmed COVID-19 variant which is spreading and has been detected on several continents. It is still not known how wel the vaccines will work against this particular variant, and it appears to spread 50 to 70 percent faster than the current COVID-19 mutation that was first detected in March and which itself spread much faster than the original strain.

There are still a lot of unknowns about the other vaccines being promoted in Russia and China, and how quickly vaccine distribution and administration will take place in various places in much of the world outside of Europe and North America. So I’d be very cautious about time frame predictions for resuming filming of season 33.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: claude_24hrs on December 26, 2020, 08:27:49 PM
They are going to start with vaccination in all EU countries tomorrow...


I think TAR33 may be europe heavy season because of it. They will probably visit South America as well. My guess would be first 3 legs in UK, then 4 legs in South America and then 4 legs in Europe.

They are definitely skipping Africa.

Asia? Idk, maybe some more developed countries like UAE, Singapur, Japan or South Korea? But I still can't see them staying in overcrowded metropolitan cities for safety reason.

I still think Australia & New Zealand (and also Canada) are uninteresting countries from producer standpoint because they are just too similiar to US.

As more probably to be a 6-continent race route, BVM stated in the Yahoo interview (in addition to UK and Sweden; UK will be 2 legs and Sweden as the 3rd leg) the proposed countries are Austria/Italy, Vietnam, Indonesia and a penultimate leg in South America in an eastward route from Oceania (Australia). Africa is more likely to be visited.

All just my opinion
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ianthebalance on December 26, 2020, 09:05:38 PM
I made what I thought would be a realistic route for the rest of 33 but won’t post it out of fear I’d someone mess things up if I’m accurate
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 26, 2020, 09:12:52 PM
They are going to start with vaccination in all EU countries tomorrow...


I think TAR33 may be europe heavy season because of it. They will probably visit South America as well. My guess would be first 3 legs in UK, then 4 legs in South America and then 4 legs in Europe.

They are definitely skipping Africa.

Asia? Idk, maybe some more developed countries like UAE, Singapur, Japan or South Korea? But I still can't see them staying in overcrowded metropolitan cities for safety reason.

I still think Australia & New Zealand (and also Canada) are uninteresting countries from producer standpoint because they are just too similiar to US.

Yeah, I’d think if they decide to tweak the route so they can finish, they’ll stick to smaller and medium sized developed countries. I read that Australia isn’t starting its vaccine program until March since it’s summer there now and they’re doing well regardless.

I also agree that they don’t really go to Oceania and Canada because they’re just too similar to the US. Australia and NZ are so geographically isolated that you almost have to do three legs between them and that’s three legs in English speaking countries. The UK is much easier to get in and out of as far as English speaking countries go.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on December 26, 2020, 09:17:52 PM
I would think they would visit Australia for this season because we have been wanting them to visit Melbourne, Tasmania, and a revisit to Cairns, Brisbane, Perth, etc.

I think a route could be:
Leg 1: (United States --> England)
Leg 2: (England --> Scotland)
Leg 3: (Scotland --> Sweden)
Leg 4: (Sweden --> Austria)
Leg 5: (Austria --> Singapore)
Leg 6: (Singapore --> South Korea)
Leg 7: (South Korea --> Japan)
Leg 8: (Japan --> Australia)
Leg 9: (Australia)
Leg 10: (Australia --> New Zealand)
Leg 11: (New Zealand --> Chile or Argentina)
Leg 12: (Chile or Argentina --> United States)

I think that Chile would be the option however I would love a Mendoza, Argentina, meat eating switchback. Also, us fans are loving the no double leg countries however I would love to have two Australian cities visited.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on December 26, 2020, 09:19:36 PM
I made what I thought would be a realistic route for the rest of 33 but won’t post it out of fear I’d someone mess things up if I’m accurate
POST IT!!!! I want to see it, or atleast pm it to me!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ianthebalance on December 27, 2020, 12:47:15 AM
I would think they would visit Australia for this season because we have been wanting them to visit Melbourne, Tasmania, and a revisit to Cairns, Brisbane, Perth, etc.

I think a route could be:
Leg 1: (United States --> England)
Leg 2: (England --> Scotland)
Leg 3: (Scotland --> Sweden)
Leg 4: (Sweden --> Austria)
Leg 5: (Austria --> Singapore)
Leg 6: (Singapore --> South Korea)
Leg 7: (South Korea --> Japan)
Leg 8: (Japan --> Australia)
Leg 9: (Australia)
Leg 10: (Australia --> New Zealand)
Leg 11: (New Zealand --> Chile or Argentina)
Leg 12: (Chile --> Argentina --> United States)

I think that Chile would be the option however I would love a Mendoza, Argentina, meat eating switchback. Also, us fans are loving the no double leg countries however I would love to have two Australian cities visited.

I was freaking out about posting my route but then a similar one is posted  :lol: (though mine is more specific)
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: justmjlayson on December 27, 2020, 01:59:07 AM
Would love to have these instead.
The Amazing Race 33
Starting Leg: St. Louis, Missouri, USA 🇺🇸
Leg 1: USA > London, England, U.K. 🇬🇧
Leg 2: England > Glasgow, Scotland, U.K. 🇬🇧
Leg 3: U.K. > Stockholm, Sweden 🇸🇪
Leg 4: Sweden > Riga, Latvia 🇱🇻
Leg 5: Latvia > Salzburg, Austria 🇦🇹
Leg 6: Salzburg, Austria 🇦🇹
Leg 7: Austria > Da Nang, Vietnam 🇻🇳
Leg 8: Vietnam > Auckland, New Zealand 🇳🇿
Leg 9: New Zealand > Hobart, Tasmania, Australia 🇦🇺
Leg 10: Australia > Montevideo, Uruguay 🇺🇾
Leg 11: Uruguay > La Paz, Bolivia 🇧🇴
Leg 12: Bolivia > Indianapolis, Indiana, USA 🇺🇸
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 27, 2020, 08:52:04 AM
If you can manage a 33/34 route that is politically and medically and ACTUALLY possible then feel free to post it here.
But provide proof of Americans and a worldwide production team being able to obtain visas.

Otherwise WISHLISTS live here: https://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15213.0.html (https://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15213.0.html)   :kuss:



Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on December 27, 2020, 07:47:10 PM
I would think they would visit Australia for this season because we have been wanting them to visit Melbourne, Tasmania, and a revisit to Cairns, Brisbane, Perth, etc.

I think a route could be:
Leg 1: (United States --> England)
Leg 2: (England --> Scotland)
Leg 3: (Scotland --> Sweden)
Leg 4: (Sweden --> Austria)
Leg 5: (Austria --> Singapore)
Leg 6: (Singapore --> South Korea)
Leg 7: (South Korea --> Japan)
Leg 8: (Japan --> Australia)
Leg 9: (Australia)
Leg 10: (Australia --> New Zealand)
Leg 11: (New Zealand --> Chile or Argentina)
Leg 12: (Chile or Argentina --> United States)

I think that Chile would be the option however I would love a Mendoza, Argentina, meat eating switchback. Also, us fans are loving the no double leg countries however I would love to have two Australian cities visited.

I was freaking out about posting my route but then a similar one is posted  :lol: (though mine is more specific)
Was going to respond to the route you pmed me, but your inbox is full.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ianthebalance on December 27, 2020, 07:53:12 PM
I would think they would visit Australia for this season because we have been wanting them to visit Melbourne, Tasmania, and a revisit to Cairns, Brisbane, Perth, etc.

I think a route could be:
Leg 1: (United States --> England)
Leg 2: (England --> Scotland)
Leg 3: (Scotland --> Sweden)
Leg 4: (Sweden --> Austria)
Leg 5: (Austria --> Singapore)
Leg 6: (Singapore --> South Korea)
Leg 7: (South Korea --> Japan)
Leg 8: (Japan --> Australia)
Leg 9: (Australia)
Leg 10: (Australia --> New Zealand)
Leg 11: (New Zealand --> Chile or Argentina)
Leg 12: (Chile or Argentina --> United States)

I think that Chile would be the option however I would love a Mendoza, Argentina, meat eating switchback. Also, us fans are loving the no double leg countries however I would love to have two Australian cities visited.

I was freaking out about posting my route but then a similar one is posted  :lol: (though mine is more specific)
Was going to respond to the route you pmed me, but your inbox is full.

Inbox is open now. Sorry about that lol
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 27, 2020, 09:45:08 PM
Aus remains on lockdown.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 28, 2020, 10:27:44 AM
Aus remains on lockdown.
And they’re not rolling out the vaccine until March
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on December 28, 2020, 02:11:29 PM
Aus remains on lockdown.
And they’re not rolling out the vaccine until March
If what I think will happen is true (that they will starting filming around June/July 2021) then I would assume that Australia would be good to go. I see them getting through everyone by June.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 28, 2020, 03:12:52 PM
Aus remains on lockdown.
And they’re not rolling out the vaccine until March
If what I think will happen is true (that they will starting filming around June/July 2021) then I would assume that Australia would be good to go. I see them getting through everyone by June.
But then it'd be winter there and they don't usually go to wintery places unless there's outdoorsy stuff to do like perennial favorite Switzerland. I'd think if they're able to film by Northern Hemisphere summer and it looks like they can get two filmed next year, they'll hold off on Aus until then. NZ has cool wintery stuff to do tho.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on December 28, 2020, 06:07:57 PM
Aus remains on lockdown.
And they’re not rolling out the vaccine until March
If what I think will happen is true (that they will starting filming around June/July 2021) then I would assume that Australia would be good to go. I see them getting through everyone by June.
But then it'd be winter there and they don't usually go to wintery places unless there's outdoorsy stuff to do like perennial favorite Switzerland. I'd think if they're able to film by Northern Hemisphere summer and it looks like they can get two filmed next year, they'll hold off on Aus until then. NZ has cool wintery stuff to do tho.
Oh yeah, forgot about that, but to be honest I would love a winter Australia visit because it is something different. Also, Australia is English speaking country, so the cold would add some sort of difficulty to it being a similar country to the US.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Air on December 28, 2020, 07:41:28 PM
Aus remains on lockdown.

this isn't even true like 100k people out of 25 million are in lockdown and there were *three* community-transmitted cases yesterday - not only would it be painfully easy just to avoid nsw if for some reason in *six months* we cannot get our community transmission down from three to zero, but an australia visit would also be much safer than basically all other countries listed in that potential route, as they are all seeing covid cases spike, some significantly, other than new zealand and singapore
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ianthebalance on December 28, 2020, 08:07:48 PM
That’s the tricky part about speculating for it and planning for it. The covid cases can rise out of seemingly nowhere
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 28, 2020, 08:19:18 PM
Aus remains on lockdown.
And they’re not rolling out the vaccine until March
If what I think will happen is true (that they will starting filming around June/July 2021) then I would assume that Australia would be good to go. I see them getting through everyone by June.
But then it'd be winter there and they don't usually go to wintery places unless there's outdoorsy stuff to do like perennial favorite Switzerland. I'd think if they're able to film by Northern Hemisphere summer and it looks like they can get two filmed next year, they'll hold off on Aus until then. NZ has cool wintery stuff to do tho.
Oh yeah, forgot about that, but to be honest I would love a winter Australia visit because it is something different. Also, Australia is English speaking country, so the cold would add some sort of difficulty to it being a similar country to the US.
It seems like this is/was a Europe heavy season and they should be at the vaccination level for herd immunity for the summer. We also know about Indonesia and Vietnam but I don’t see either one of those happening if they’re hoping to shoot by June or July. Mid income countries are looking at another year of this. They’d probably be able to swap them out for a developed Asian country like Japan or SK easily enough tho.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on December 28, 2020, 09:42:54 PM
One thing that should not be forgotten is the fact that a lot of production and crew also travel with the teams in filming. I iRC, Bertram has said in interviews that it would be impossible to resume filming as long as COVID-19 is a threat in air travel as well as not dealing with the possibility of resurgence of the coronavirus.
Getting vaccine derived immunity widespread enough to give rise to this globally might take all of 2021.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ianthebalance on December 29, 2020, 01:15:40 AM
I had this thought a while back but forgot to mention it: if Bertram wanted to keep the route as similar as safely possible when they returned, would he really be mentioning which locations had to drop out? I don’t think so (that would be unsafe for the racers)
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: TARUSAFan on December 29, 2020, 04:17:35 AM
Sounds like the TAR producers may've been listening to this season's criticisms after all :D

Bert & Elise are mulling over new alliance-stemming rules for next season - https://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/2020/12/amazing-race-32-producers-interview

Thanks Bertram & Elise for listening. You guys are the best.


 :luvya:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 29, 2020, 09:35:46 AM
Aus remains on lockdown.

this isn't even true like 100k people out of 25 million are in lockdown and there were *three* community-transmitted cases yesterday - not only would it be painfully easy just to avoid nsw if for some reason in *six months* we cannot get our community transmission down from three to zero, but an australia visit would also be much safer than basically all other countries listed in that potential route, as they are all seeing covid cases spike, some significantly, other than new zealand and singapore

Not saying it may not be safe. Saying that US residents would not currently be allowed in.

"From Friday 20 March 9pm AEDT (6.00am EDT) Australia will NOT allow the entry of people who are not citizens, permanent residents or their families. Immediate family members who are not permanent residents must apply for an exemption if they wish to travel to Australia during this period. Detailed information about the exemptions is available on the Home Affairs website."
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 29, 2020, 09:49:18 AM
I had this thought a while back but forgot to mention it: if Bertram wanted to keep the route as similar as safely possible when they returned, would he really be mentioning which locations had to drop out? I don’t think so (that would be unsafe for the racers)

That’s my thought too. Idt he’d have said as much as he did about the route if they were planning on sticking to it. I’d think the Europe locations are the safest.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Nuku on December 29, 2020, 10:32:01 AM
So what countries exactly do we know they visted/planned to visit?


Please do not ask for SPOILERS here.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 29, 2020, 10:49:57 AM
So what countries exactly do we know they visted/planned to visit?

They did two legs in the UK and they stopped in Sweden.


INFO removed.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on December 29, 2020, 11:04:25 AM
So what countries exactly do we know they visted/planned to visit?



INFO REMOVED
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 29, 2020, 11:24:59 AM
Guys. THERE ARE TO BE NO 33 SPOILERS POSTED HERE.

Please read the SPOILER ANNOUNCEMENT. I removed the spoilers for reasons that still stand.

Info posted by production may be shared.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 29, 2020, 11:30:12 AM
Y'all MAY speculate on routes etc.

YOU MAY NOT POST ANY KNOWN SPOILERS HERE.

FWIW I do not think 33 will be resuming with the same previously planned format at all anyway.

But regardless...NO SPOILERS AT THIS TIME.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 29, 2020, 11:41:21 AM
Sorry, I misunderstood the spoiler policies. My bad.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 29, 2020, 12:00:12 PM
There's still a lot of Japan and South Korea they've never explored. They usually stick to the big two metros but Busan would be a cool place to visit if they're able to film this summer. They also haven't been to Taiwan in forever.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on December 29, 2020, 03:03:48 PM
There's still a lot of Japan and South Korea they've never explored. They usually stick to the big two metros but Busan would be a cool place to visit if they're able to film this summer. They also haven't been to Taiwan in forever.
I am still waiting for a Busan leg and a Kaohsiung City leg!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ianthebalance on December 29, 2020, 03:37:14 PM
What we want: other parts in Japan, highlighting the historical  and current uniqueness about that specific area

What we will get: WACKY GAME SHOW ANTICS IN TOKYO OR OSAKA, SO RANDOM XD
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Marionete on December 29, 2020, 03:58:03 PM
FWIW I do not think 33 will be resuming with the same previously planned format at all anyway.
What do you mean here exactly?
Format as in route? Cast? Do you think they're starting over as if no legs for 33 had ever been filmed?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on December 29, 2020, 04:37:53 PM
FWIW I do not think 33 will be resuming with the same previously planned format at all anyway.
What do you mean here exactly?
Format as in route? Cast? Do you think they're starting over as if no legs for 33 had ever been filmed?
I have heard that they will resume where they left off. I am like 95% sure that they are doing this.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 29, 2020, 04:42:07 PM
FWIW I do not think 33 will be resuming with the same previously planned format at all anyway.
What do you mean here exactly?
Format as in route? Cast? Do you think they're starting over as if no legs for 33 had ever been filmed?

Imo at this point there’s no way they’re sticking to the original route. From what we know, there were probably at least two legs in middle income countries which are looking more at the summer or fall for vaccination whereas high income ones are spring and summer. A couple of people involved have said they hope to film by June or July and it will probably be a more prudent decision to just go ahead and wrap this one up ASAP. Stick to developed countries and then cross the bridge about 34 when they get there. Just my opinion tho.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Marionete on December 29, 2020, 05:29:30 PM
I mean, if Peach just meant the route, it's kind of a nobrainer that they'll have to alter it due to the pandemic. Even without one, they might not wanna do some of the locations they had planned anymore.
If we really had 3 episodes filmed in the UK instead of 2, that screams replacement leg to me, they'll probably want fewer countries with consecutive legs than they had planned. Or maybe they won't care just to save budget.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 29, 2020, 05:52:16 PM
I mean, if Peach just meant the route, it's kind of a nobrainer that they'll have to alter it due to the pandemic. Even without one, they might not wanna do some of the locations they had planned anymore.
If we really had 3 episodes filmed in the UK instead of 2, that screams replacement leg to me, they'll probably want fewer countries with consecutive legs than they had planned. Or maybe they won't care just to save budget.

Yeah I’m expecting lots of non travel legs.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 29, 2020, 06:22:49 PM
FWIW I do not think 33 will be resuming with the same previously planned format at all anyway.
What do you mean here exactly?
Format as in route? Cast? Do you think they're starting over as if no legs for 33 had ever been filmed?
I have heard that they will resume where they left off. I am like 95% sure that they are doing this.

Not happening. We are (hopefully) looking at a whole different time of year for one.. Some countries will have borders closed that were not last FEB. ALL routes and tasks will HAVE to be reconsidered. Transportation will have to be different. Cast will need to re-commit and not all may be able or want to do that.  Depending on all that its possible that it could be easier to just start over.

I am not saying that WILL happen. I AM saying it MAY happen. Take it FWIW.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Marionete on December 29, 2020, 06:27:45 PM
Yeah, I guess it's something that can only be known much closer to start than we're at now.
With things changing so quickly in this pandemic, someone might say right now that they are free to resume the race, then have to drop out closer to filming.

Same thing goes for routes, which is why I find it pretty silly to post routes here at this stage. A country that's handling the pandemic well right now might see a new surge in cases months later. Countries that aren't doing well at all right now might take care of it completely with vaccines over the next half a year. Or vaccines won't be as widespread that fast. Just too many unknowns right now, speculation seems quite worthless to me atm.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on December 29, 2020, 06:34:40 PM
Didn't BVM or Phil said in interview that all remaining teams agreed to continue? It was in march though... Lot of could change. We know that one couple broked up.

GP, so do you think there is real possibility that TAR33 could start since the begining with new cast and these 3 legs with "corona" cast will never air?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 29, 2020, 06:45:04 PM
They could always just invite everyone back and recast those who don’t want to or can’t come back and just re-start it from the beginning.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on December 29, 2020, 06:51:56 PM
They could always just invite everyone back and recast those who don’t want to or can’t come back and just re-start it from the beginning.

This cast has history together they can not just add some newbies teams to them and restart from the beginning, imo.

Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on December 29, 2020, 08:49:55 PM
Kelly Kahl, President of CBS Entertainment, confirmed in mid-May that no one from the original cast has dropped out:

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"Production on Survivor and The Amazing Race was interrupted. What precautions are you taking there and with those casts? Has anyone from either show dropped out?"

"I don't believe anyone has dropped out. We are going to take all precautions that take all steps to protect the health and safety of our contestants — or in scripted shows, or actors — but also certainly the crew. Everyone's health and safety is going to be taken into consideration.

SOURCE: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/cbs-plots-business-as-usual-fall-schedule-now-1295186

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Phil Keoghan confirmed on Twitter in early-April that the intention for season 33 of The Amazing Race IS to resume filming where they left off.

SOURCE: https://twitter.com/PhilKeoghan/status/1249782008311504896

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Phil Keoghan also confirmed in several interviews, most recently around mid-October,  when questioned about whether it would pick back-up where they left off, he said:

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"We’ll go back and finish the season as soon as we’re able to do it safely. Our number one goal for all of us is to make sure people are safe and we pride ourselves on keeping people safe. We can't make that promise right now with the world the way it is. Rest assured, we will be back and we will hopefully be even better than we have been before. Every season we are trying to improve, to take it up a notch.

SOURCE: https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/amazing-races-phil-keoghan-talks-season-32-covid-19-challenges/

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So it seems pretty clear that the plan from the beginning is to resume where they left. Granted, the original route and the original tasks will probably be different than what was intended, but I think the "resume" part is that the three (two?) episodes/legs they filmed will continue on with the same cast. So unless something has changed since mid-October when he gave his most recent statement on this (that I could find), then this seems to still be that plan.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on December 30, 2020, 11:22:41 AM
FWIW I do not think 33 will be resuming with the same previously planned format at all anyway.
What do you mean here exactly?
Format as in route? Cast? Do you think they're starting over as if no legs for 33 had ever been filmed?
I have heard that they will resume where they left off. I am like 95% sure that they are doing this.

Not happening. We are (hopefully) looking at a whole different time of year for one.. Some countries will have borders closed that were not last FEB. ALL routes and tasks will HAVE to be reconsidered. Transportation will have to be different. Cast will need to re-commit and not all may be able or want to do that.  Depending on all that its possible that it could be easier to just start over.

I am not saying that WILL happen. I AM saying it MAY happen. Take it FWIW.
I'm sorry, I meant like they are keeping the original 3 legs that they filmed! NOT that they are sticking to the original route. I'm sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on December 30, 2020, 11:55:40 AM
I don't have much more info than y'all do.  I think previous plans could be altered.

But I do know we are approaching a YEAR since this started and could easily be 18+ months before they can film. Who knows what will happen? Will the cast be available? Want to continue?  Are the countries they hoped to visit now on lockdown? What countries would welcome us? WIll there ever be self driving ? Will all vehicles/taxis etc be provided? SO many variables.

I am eager to seee how the TAR AUstralia season plays out.

I think our route will be completely reformatted. Too many places are now off-limits.

I think the choices are to continue with same cast (IF AVAILABLE) starting with the next leg.

If not, they can add this remaining cast into the upcoming say... next three races.

There are always alternatives.

Right now we  pretty much KNOW nothing except TPTB want TAR to continue.

So speculate. But please have some reasonably info to base it on. WISHLIST routes go to that thread.

Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on December 30, 2020, 04:52:26 PM
The US has already fallen behind its vaccination plan and the EU says it's gonna be September before everyone there has it so we might be looking more at Fall filming.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on December 30, 2020, 08:55:47 PM
The US has already fallen behind its vaccination plan and the EU says it's gonna be September before everyone there has it so we might be looking more at Fall filming.
The US military general in charge of overseeing COVID-19 vaccine distribution has said this week, that’s return to near normalcy is only possible with a perfect vaccination program in the US. And that would be miraculous. Remember Murphy’s law. And remember Murphy was an optimist.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: HavaDrPepper on January 01, 2021, 03:30:22 PM
NO SPOILERS PLEASE
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on January 01, 2021, 06:18:31 PM

Spoilers removed


 I think if/when the reason resumes with the same cast, this will be one of the most interesting seasons to watch from an inter-team dynamic to seeing how they shift from the first few episodes, to the later episodes. It would make for fascinating television, in my opinion. All we'd need to do is make sure the editors/producers lean into this and don't just gloss over it.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: redskevin88 on January 01, 2021, 06:32:14 PM

 I think if/when the reason resumes with the same cast, this will be one of the most interesting seasons to watch from an inter-team dynamic to seeing how they shift from the first few episodes, to the later episodes. It would make for fascinating television, in my opinion. All we'd need to do is make sure the editors/producers lean into this and don't just gloss over it.
I've been watching since TAR 13 and one think I know about the Amazing Race is that the producers will overplay it to the point of annoyance.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: stunami on January 01, 2021, 08:26:18 PM


Honestly... it will be wierd.. I kind of wish they start again with new teams (or 2-3 teams max of tar33 on the next 2-3 races) because like you said it will change everything. Teams will have the time to think about what worked, what didn't, and they will know what to work on and how to be better.
Idk I just think it would be easier to recast the whole thing.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on January 01, 2021, 08:59:47 PM
GUYS.

ONE MORE TIME.

NO 33 SPOILERS ARE ALLOWED.

Speculation and Discussion on the future are allowed.

KNOWN SPOILERS ARE BEING WITHHELD TO PREVENT ANY POSSIBLE INTERFERENCE WITH RESUMING THE RACE.

Info shared by production in the media is okay.







Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Marionete on January 01, 2021, 11:54:08 PM
I think if/when the reason resumes with the same cast, this will be one of the most interesting seasons to watch from an inter-team dynamic to seeing how they shift from the first few episodes, to the later episodes. It would make for fascinating television, in my opinion. All we'd need to do is make sure the editors/producers lean into this and don't just gloss over it.
Oooh yeah, that could really make for a special season! In a positive sense, hopefully.
I hope they do manage to get the same teams. Or if someone drops out, maybe let a team that got eliminated on the last filmed leg, continue racing? Kinda like when Dave & Connor withdrew in TAR22, or how Zev & Justin's lost passports allowed Maria & Tiffany to continue racing when they should've been eliminated.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on January 02, 2021, 05:07:04 PM
When was the last time they went to Japan and didn’t stay in Tokyo?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ianthebalance on January 02, 2021, 05:09:58 PM
When was the last time they went to Japan and didn’t stay in Tokyo?

Season 20 didn’t go to Tokyo

Season 26 went to Tokyo for a leg and somewhere else for a second leg (I forgot where)
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Nuku on January 02, 2021, 05:23:47 PM
When was the last time they went to Japan and didn’t stay in Tokyo?

Season 20 didn’t go to Tokyo

Season 26 went to Tokyo for a leg and somewhere else for a second leg (I forgot where)

nagano
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on January 02, 2021, 07:51:45 PM
So yeah, they could get two legs out of Kyoto or Osaka easily without re-treading anything.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on January 07, 2021, 07:42:22 PM
Do y'all think they'd go to Poland now given the political situation?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on January 09, 2021, 10:25:38 PM
Do y'all think they'd go to Poland now given the political situation?

What situation?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on January 16, 2021, 08:51:16 PM
Do y'all think they'd go to Poland now given the political situation?

What situation?
Just general democratic backsliding. I also wouldn’t be surprised if they miss India and/or Brazil for the same reason. Was just curious because there’s a lot of Central Europe they’ve missed.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on January 16, 2021, 08:52:34 PM
Israel is on track to have everyone vaccinated for COVID by the beginning of Q2. Could we finally get a visit? Especially now that they’ve normalized relationships with a lot of their neighbors, which makes traveling easier
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on February 03, 2021, 03:21:42 PM
I wonder if it's proven that the vaccine stops/slows down transmission (which is looking like the case, particularly the Oxford one) if some of the middle income countries would be put back on the table if they're able to pick back up in the fall.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ianthebalance on February 03, 2021, 08:27:30 PM
Even if that turns out to be the case (I don’t know the science behind it), I feel like they would play it more safe in developed countries.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Nuku on February 03, 2021, 08:32:57 PM
Any speculation of doing domestic?

even though would be safer to just avoid USA at this point LOL!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on February 03, 2021, 09:07:33 PM
No one is yet certain of the long term efficacy of the different COVID-19 vaccines, individually or collectively.. They’re using medically modeling and genetic sequencing of literally hundreds of thousands of samples. The one issue that has rather spectacularly emerged is the variants and mutations that continue to emerge, and the possiblity that the various vaccines may not prove fully effective against some of them.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Jjw26 on February 05, 2021, 01:57:27 AM
Any speculation of doing domestic?

even though would be safer to just avoid USA at this point LOL!

Elsie Doganieri and Bertram said in an interview back in December that a domestic season isn't going to happen (although anything can change tbh)
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on February 06, 2021, 06:06:27 PM
Another question is whether they’d visit counties using the Chinese and Russian vaccines. The UAE is only behind Israel in per capita but they’re using the Chinese one. There’s still not a lot of data available about it. The show goes to the UAE a lot too. The Russian vaccine has some good data come out about it but the Chinese one remains a mystery. Then again, if they’re able to get filming done some time this year, the data might be published.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Israel gets its first visit both due to their vaccination success and that they’ve established relationships with more countries of late which makes traveling there easier.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Lmh1988 on February 06, 2021, 10:01:11 PM
Any speculation of doing domestic?

even though would be safer to just avoid USA at this point LOL!

Elsie Doganieri and Bertram said in an interview back in December that a domestic season isn't going to happen (although anything can change tbh)

Yeah, honestly doing a domestic only version would actually probably be far riskier at this point as opposed to pinpointing countries that have it under control. I’m hopeful that maybe within the next six months they can start filming back up but time will tell.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on February 06, 2021, 10:42:05 PM
Any speculation of doing domestic?

even though would be safer to just avoid USA at this point LOL!

Elsie Doganieri and Bertram said in an interview back in December that a domestic season isn't going to happen (although anything can change tbh)

Yeah, honestly doing a domestic only version would actually probably be far riskier at this point as opposed to pinpointing countries that have it under control. I’m hopeful that maybe within the next six months they can start filming back up but time will tell.

IMO whether or not they can film this year will be dependent on if/when it becomes clear that the shots really do slow down or stop transmission. Things are looking good so far but more data time is needed. Some countries are already lifting travel restrictions if you can prove you’re vaccinated but this show takes a small army to film so I don’t imagine everyone involved will be vaccinated before the summer.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ianthebalance on February 15, 2021, 02:28:46 AM
I could imagine a route like this (from reports of when countries will likely achieve widespread immunization)

Legs 1-6: Europe (I know 2-3 legs were already filmed but doing this to show the whole route)
Legs 7-8: Israel
Leg 9: UAE
Legs 10-11: Taiwan
Leg 12: USA
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on February 15, 2021, 12:54:59 PM
I could imagine a route like this (from reports of when countries will likely achieve widespread immunization)

Legs 1-6: Europe (I know 2-3 legs were already filmed but doing this to show the whole route)
Legs 7-8: Israel
Leg 9: UAE
Legs 10-11: Taiwan
Leg 12: USA

I could also see NZ/Australia in there, depending on when they decide to open up their borders since they're both starting vaccination this week and they're both small countries.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: kyleisalive on February 15, 2021, 06:13:43 PM
Regarding domestic, the producers won't take the risk.  They tried that before and continue to get flak from the community to this day.  If you expect a domestic season, expect it to be their last season because it will alienate long-term viewers.

As for everywhere else, I would continue to doubt the majority of well-off nations.  Even with low case numbers, these places are successful because of their restrictions on non-essential travel.  To get into NZ as non-essential, you currently need government approval.  These places aren't reopening until the rest of the world is well on its way.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on February 15, 2021, 06:32:22 PM
Regarding domestic, the producers won't take the risk.  They tried that before and continue to get flak from the community to this day.  If you expect a domestic season, expect it to be their last season because it will alienate long-term viewers.

As for everywhere else, I would continue to doubt the majority of well-off nations.  Even with low case numbers, these places are successful because of their restrictions on non-essential travel.  To get into NZ as non-essential, you currently need government approval.  These places aren't reopening until the rest of the world is well on its way.

The NZ government says they’re not going to reopen their borders until they get everyone vaccinated and they hope to do that by June or July. I guess that’s a way for them to buy time to see how effective the vaccines are for stopping or slowing down transmission. Places like NZ and Aus are a bit of a double edged sword because they’ve kept the virus out while also being in no hurry to vaccinate.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: H_E_L_L_O on March 15, 2021, 11:19:27 PM
If producers wanted to keep the original 6-continent concept for TAR 33 I could see this route:

Legs 1&2: UK (filmed)
Leg 3: Western European nation (possibly Spain, Denmark, or Norway)
Legs 4&5: Israel
Leg 6: Seychelles or Mauritius
Leg 7: Singapore or Thailand
Leg 8: South Korea or Taiwan
Legs 9&10: Australia or New Zealand
Leg 11: Chile or Uruguay
Leg 12: Somewhere in the lower 48

I do think that there is a possibility of this season having 13 legs if production decides to do a domestic NEL to help reintroduce the remaining teams back into the race. Of course travel between covid safe countries would have to be normalized first in order for this to happen (possibly late this year or early next year).
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ianthebalance on March 16, 2021, 01:13:30 AM
Original 6 continent route?! What?
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on March 19, 2021, 01:32:59 PM
What I could see if they decide to start over from scratch :

Leg 1: One of the Caribbean countries that’s doing well or maybe Canada
Leg 2:UK
Leg 3 & 4: Scandinavian country(ies) Denmark is doing the best on vaccinations atm
Leg 5: Another European country
Leg 6: Israel
Leg 7: UAE
Leg 8:One of the developed East Asian country
Leg 9: Another developed East Asian country
Leg 10 & 11: Australia/ NZ
Leg 12: Hawaii
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: zacz on March 19, 2021, 09:11:40 PM
What I could see if they decide to start over from scratch :

Leg 1: One of the Caribbean countries that’s doing well or maybe Canada
Leg 2:UK
Leg 3 & 4: Scandinavian country(ies) Denmark is doing the best on vaccinations atm
Leg 5: Another European country
Leg 6: Israel
Leg 7: UAE
Leg 8:One of the developed East Asian country
Leg 9: Another developed East Asian country
Leg 10 & 11: Australia/ NZ
Leg 12: Hawaii

I can't see Australia/NZ or most of the pacific being an option. Here in Australia we are just starting vaccination now and at the moment only those who are high risk are allowed to receive it. And with Europe blocking us from importing vaccines sourcing stock is difficult.

Also the government has reassured the public that even when we reopen the 2 week quarantine will remain until other countries have basically eradicated (or close to) the virus like us. They are looking at organising a travel bubble with other countries that have similar restrictions to us and no COVID late in the year (October to December) but the US is not one of these places due to the high number of cases there.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on March 20, 2021, 10:47:35 AM
What I could see if they decide to start over from scratch :

Leg 1: One of the Caribbean countries that’s doing well or maybe Canada
Leg 2:UK
Leg 3 & 4: Scandinavian country(ies) Denmark is doing the best on vaccinations atm
Leg 5: Another European country
Leg 6: Israel
Leg 7: UAE
Leg 8:One of the developed East Asian country
Leg 9: Another developed East Asian country
Leg 10 & 11: Australia/ NZ
Leg 12: Hawaii

I can't see Australia/NZ or most of the pacific being an option. Here in Australia we are just starting vaccination now and at the moment only those who are high risk are allowed to receive it. And with Europe blocking us from importing vaccines sourcing stock is difficult.

Also the government has reassured the public that even when we reopen the 2 week quarantine will remain until other countries have basically eradicated (or close to) the virus like us. They are looking at organising a travel bubble with other countries that have similar restrictions to us and no COVID late in the year (October to December) but the US is not one of these places due to the high number of cases there.

Oh yeah, this isn't for any time soon. This (US) fall at the earliest is when I could see them being able to do it.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on March 31, 2021, 12:21:18 PM
I’d add Iceland to the list of countries they’re very likely to visit if they shoot this fall. Starting May 1st, Americans can visit freely if they can prove they’ve been vaccinated.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Nuku on March 31, 2021, 01:44:13 PM
I have seen a lot about Greece aopening up as well! Maybe a chance to visit some of the Greek Islands!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on March 31, 2021, 01:57:50 PM
I have seen a lot about Greece aopening up as well! Maybe a chance to visit some of the Greek Islands!

I saw an interview with Taiwan’s Health Minister where he said they’re on track to open back open for vaccinated tourists before the end of the year. They haven’t been there for ever.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Xoruz on March 31, 2021, 06:33:29 PM
I'd throw in Costa Rica.

https://www.visitcostarica.com/en/costa-rica/planning-your-trip/entry-requirements
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on April 01, 2021, 02:27:15 PM
I'd throw in Costa Rica.

https://www.visitcostarica.com/en/costa-rica/planning-your-trip/entry-requirements

This is starting to look like it could be a great route! Now, please Australia lol!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on April 01, 2021, 09:45:42 PM
The CDC is officially saying that vaccinated ppl don’t transmit now too.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on April 02, 2021, 01:25:17 PM
Progress :)

https://apnews.com/article/cdc-fully-vaccinated-travel-no-quarantine-domestic-us-a657a7e7d12fff68531c5ff0e08ad717
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on April 03, 2021, 10:20:54 AM
Progress :)

https://apnews.com/article/cdc-fully-vaccinated-travel-no-quarantine-domestic-us-a657a7e7d12fff68531c5ff0e08ad717

Looks like all the states are gonna meet the Biden administration’s target for opening up to everyone May 1st too. I imagine we’ll get some more info both from the CDC and other countries when we get there. It’s looking like we’re gonna hit “herd immunity”’sometime in July.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on April 03, 2021, 01:45:17 PM
So far it is looking like they could restart filming in late Summer/early Fall of this year! It's hope this happens or even is earlier!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: I ♥ TAR on April 03, 2021, 02:28:52 PM
Genuine question... How the vaccination in US works? Are they prioritizing people based on their age or working industry(doctors, nurses, teachers, critical infrastructure) or is order random? I am asking because I saw some SM posts of different rtv alumnis in their 20s/30s about them being vaccinated already. I would assume vaccinate older population would be priority.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on April 03, 2021, 02:49:08 PM
Genuine question... How the vaccination in US works? Are they prioritizing people based on their age or working industry(doctors, nurses, teachers, critical infrastructure) or is order random? I am asking because I saw some SM posts of different rtv alumnis in their 20s/30s about them being vaccinated already. I would assume vaccinate older population would be priority.
They started with doctor, nurses, healthcare workers, etc, and government workers. Then after that they did older people, and now anyone that is 16+ can get the vaccine I am pretty sure. They did 100 million shots in 58 days, so Biden is doing an amazing job with this compared to Trump.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: H_E_L_L_O on April 03, 2021, 09:49:24 PM
I'd throw in Costa Rica.

https://www.visitcostarica.com/en/costa-rica/planning-your-trip/entry-requirements

This is starting to look like it could be a great route! Now, please Australia lol!

With Qantas expecting to resume international flights by October 31st, I think a visit to Australia after nearly 15 seasons could be likely.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: H_E_L_L_O on April 03, 2021, 10:08:17 PM
Here's a list of countries that could possibly be visited: https://thepointsguy.com/guide/country-by-country-guide-to-where-you-can-go-if-youre-vaccinated/
I expect that by the time they get ready to film this list would have, hopefully, grown.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on April 03, 2021, 11:10:50 PM
Genuine question... How the vaccination in US works? Are they prioritizing people based on their age or working industry(doctors, nurses, teachers, critical infrastructure) or is order random? I am asking because I saw some SM posts of different rtv alumnis in their 20s/30s about them being vaccinated already. I would assume vaccinate older population would be priority.

Well, each state has its own rules but genuinely speaking they started off with frontline healthcare workers and people who live/work in nursing home and then moved onto older people and then slowly started opening up to other people based on health issues and jobs. I’m 27 but got my first one three weeks ago bc I’m a teacher. My group that opened up was school staff, intellectually disabled adults, and parents of kids with complicated medical issues. My state is open for everyone now but the Biden administration has set a goal to have all states do the same by May 1st.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on April 04, 2021, 05:03:22 PM
It’s dangerous to assume the US experience with vaccinations will apply equally quickly to the rest of the world. So I doubt things will be at a point to resume filming as soon as this autumn. Among other things there’s no international standard for how to handle people who may be fully vaccinated and ongoing health and safety measures (masks, social distancing and quarantines).
The acceleration of the US vaccination rollout (and it is impressive— over 4 million administered yesterday) and the reports that at least the Pfizer vaccine is showing to be safe and 100% effective for teenagers between ages 12 to 15) is intended to blunt a fourth wave of infections fueled by the UK variant and other mutations in the US. Other countries aren’t in that position yet. And the most current CDC guidance is still recommending the use of masks and social distancing even for fully vaccinated individuals.
I think its wishful thinking to state filming could resume by autumn.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: redwings8831 on April 06, 2021, 01:31:59 PM
I think this is to be expected and would be surprised if they are back filming before the end of the year.

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The only outstanding alternative show left to return is The Amazing Race. CBS is currently in conversations with creators Bertram Van Munster and Elise Doganieri over its return. “There’s a little bit of a longer way on that one until the world officially opens back up. We’ve explored some other options such as going to Covid-light countries but I don’t think it’s the same, you want the experience of traveling the globe. Once we feel we can do that safely, we’re going to get them back out there, we would love to have that show back as fast as we can,” Graham added.

https://deadline.com/2021/04/the-state-of-non-scripted-tv-broadcasters-streamers-optimistic-in-2021-feature-1234727534/
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ianthebalance on April 06, 2021, 01:45:12 PM
I don’t care about the globe, give us the covid-light Countries  :dick
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 06, 2021, 04:45:33 PM
The CDC is officially saying that vaccinated ppl don’t transmit now too.

That is not correct as far as I know. ESPECIALLY in regards to the new variants appearing rappidly.

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COVID-19 vaccines are effective at protecting you from getting sick. Based on what we know about COVID-19 vaccines, people who have been fully vaccinated can start to do some things that they had stopped doing because of the pandemic.

We’re still learning how vaccines will affect the spread of COVID-19. After you’ve been fully vaccinated against COVID-19, you should keep taking precautions – like wearing a mask, staying 6 feet apart from others, and avoiding crowds and poorly ventilated spaces – in public places until we know more.


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html)
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 06, 2021, 04:48:07 PM
The new Covid variants are possibly not included in the current vaccinations and we may need to have a "booster".


So continue all your precautions please.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on April 06, 2021, 05:30:51 PM
The CDC is officially saying that vaccinated ppl don’t transmit now too.

That is not correct as far as I know. ESPECIALLY in regards to the new variants appearing rappidly.

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COVID-19 vaccines are effective at protecting you from getting sick. Based on what we know about COVID-19 vaccines, people who have been fully vaccinated can start to do some things that they had stopped doing because of the pandemic.

We’re still learning how vaccines will affect the spread of COVID-19. After you’ve been fully vaccinated against COVID-19, you should keep taking precautions – like wearing a mask, staying 6 feet apart from others, and avoiding crowds and poorly ventilated spaces – in public places until we know more.


https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html (https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html)

Yeah, they ended up walking that back. Although Pfizer put out a study last week showing that six months after vaccination, no one caught it in their South Africa group even though that’s where one of the variants is running rampant.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on April 06, 2021, 06:02:48 PM
I think this is to be expected and would be surprised if they are back filming before the end of the year.

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The only outstanding alternative show left to return is The Amazing Race. CBS is currently in conversations with creators Bertram Van Munster and Elise Doganieri over its return. “There’s a little bit of a longer way on that one until the world officially opens back up. We’ve explored some other options such as going to Covid-light countries but I don’t think it’s the same, you want the experience of traveling the globe. Once we feel we can do that safely, we’re going to get them back out there, we would love to have that show back as fast as we can,” Graham added.

https://deadline.com/2021/04/the-state-of-non-scripted-tv-broadcasters-streamers-optimistic-in-2021-feature-1234727534/

I have no doubt that by Q3 of this year, they could cobble together a route of countries where vaccinated Americans can travel and are safe (esp since Qantas is supposed to start its international routes in late October and they could get 3 legs out of some combo of Aus and NZ) but I agree with them that it just sort of depends if it’d be a good route with good tasks. IMO if they don’t think they can make it work well, they shouldn’t feel the need to rush and should just wait it out for a little bit longer. Especially with the EU lagging so far behind.

Edit: Sorry, meant Q4 not Q3.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on April 06, 2021, 08:17:33 PM
The newer variants, some with two major mutations, are going to continue to be a concern for the coming months. It would be difficult and risky to assume international air travel will be safe in all instances, when flight have to connect through areas less well vaccinated. To fully cover the planet, we might need 15 billion doses. At the moment, Africa, South America, Asia and much of Europe just aren’t safe for travel without a significant risk of COVID-19 exposure. Filming in tha autumn just doesn’t seem feasible rto me. For Survivor, they had to agree to a rigid quarantine and testing protocol just to get production back in Fiji to film seasons 41 and 42.
I think CBS wants TAR back in production, but they want things to be safe as possible first. That’s not the case now.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on April 12, 2021, 11:13:45 PM
The Seychelles and Bhutan are two other countries to keep an eye on since they've quickly caught up with the UAE and Israel on vaccinations.Bhutan might be considered a bit too hard to get in and out of but the Seychelles deserves another visit imo. If they can get it up and going sometime in Q4, it'd be a change of pace from the other rich countries in Europe and North East Asia they're likely to visit weather wise.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Neobie on April 13, 2021, 05:20:13 AM
Don't get your hopes up for Australia and New Zealand; the two (especially New Zealand) are adopting an extremely cautious approach to all arrivals, and may not be lifting restrictions for even vaccinated travellers anytime soon. Australia may have been considering opening up to some other countries (e.g. Singapore, Japan), but New Zealand has implicitly threatened to burst the Trans-Tasman air travel bubble if Australia does that.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 13, 2021, 08:27:08 AM
Smart countries are taking notice of the many new very worrisome Varients and are tightening restrictions accordingly.

UNLIKE the many US states going the other way and lossening restrictions.

Medically speaking we are clearly NOT out of the woods yet.

My GUESS is no TAR in 2021. Not so sure Survivor is going to make it unscathed either.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on April 15, 2021, 10:11:56 PM
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Phil Keoghan Did An AMA on Twitter. Qs About TAR Were Asked, But Very Few TAR Responses: Only Relevant Bit I Could Find Was. . .
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I should note the AMA was mostly to deal with Tough As Nails. I was unaware it was still going on until most of the Qs he was answering was about Tough As Nails.

The most relevant bit was he answered a question about his upcoming projects or what's on the schedule for 2021. He says he has TWO seasons of Tough As Nails coming up (seasons 3 and 4) to film and a screenplay he is trying to write and complete with a buddy. There wasn't a single mention of TAR 33.

Given the record high number of COVID cases in many countries around the planet and the lack of referencing TAR 33 in the "What's Next For You, Phil?" Question, I'm willing to bet money we don't get TAR 33 filmed before the end of the year (or at least until very very close until the end of the year if it does happen).
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on April 15, 2021, 10:59:33 PM
Based on things I saw online today in news reports I’m skeptical that any time in 2021 is not in the cards.
The biggie Many third world countries are unlikely to even have vaccines available for use before 2023. Then the head of Pfizer said that he expects another booster shot will be necessary before 12 months have passed for those who have been vaccinated, and it’s likely COVID-19 will require yearly booster shots, just like for influenza, thereafter.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on April 18, 2021, 09:06:28 AM
I’d guess they’re probably gonna give it a little more time to see how well vaccinations ramp up elsewhere and get some more info on how/if vaccinated ppl transmit and make a decision if they can get it on the road by Q4. Australia is supposed to re-asses its borders in July. Maybe around that time.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: zacz on April 18, 2021, 11:30:52 PM
Australia has just had to push back its vaccine program as 90% of our vaccine stock is AZ which is now not recommended in under 50's. We are being told that the borders won't open until at least 2022 and that quarantine will still be required when they do.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on April 19, 2021, 09:16:47 AM
Hopefully the EU is gonna approve the J&J here soon too.....
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on April 19, 2021, 02:21:10 PM
The developers of the AZ and J&J vaccines have to solve this unusual blood clotting issue. It becomes more concerning with the fact that the same kind or rare blood clot has shown up in those who receive these two vaccines and not others, and recognizing that oth vaccines, notably in Russia and China are generally not being shown to be anywhere as effective as the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines.

Nor is it helping things that some Americans, mostly those who can be described as conservative Evangelical Christians, and who politically self identify as Republicans, are capping levels of vaccinations in the US to an extent it’s thought to be unlikely the US will reach whatever level is ultimately necessary for herd immunity. It’s things like this that make crystal balls not work well in devining when it will be safe for international travel to return to travel and to permit TAR to resume traveling. Just a P.S. the rate of hospitalization, severe illness and death among people between ages 16 and 35 in particular, are rising, even with increasing levels of vaccination among those who are older.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on April 19, 2021, 04:05:34 PM
Biden annouced today that any US citizen can receive the vaccine!
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: kyleisalive on April 19, 2021, 08:22:12 PM
Right, but this doesn't mean that all other countries-- still very far behind-- will open their travel restrictions.  Considering the discourse on variants right now, it likely means restrictions through to the end of the year, many of which will affect American travellers.

It's great they're getting vaccinated, but now the rest of the world needs to catch up.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on April 25, 2021, 04:36:40 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/25/world/europe/american-travel-to-europe.html

Vaccinated Americans will soon be able to travel freely to the EU.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on April 28, 2021, 08:59:55 PM
Canada is really quickly catching up to the US/UK on vaccinations. I understand why they may not want to go there if they’re able to film by the end of the year because that’d be a lot of rich, English speaking countries but they could always go to Quebec to get a different flair. They’ve only been there in 8 (lol).
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: stunami on April 28, 2021, 09:16:13 PM
Canada is really quickly catching up to the US/UK on vaccinations. I understand why they may not want to go there if they’re able to film by the end of the year because that’d be a lot of rich, English speaking countries but they could always go to Quebec to get a different flair. They’ve only been there in 8 (lol).

100%

They could really do 2 legs even. One in a big-ish city (Québec City if they really want a french city, or Montreal) and one in rural area (Could be on Canada's birth place Gaspé, or Saguenay-Lac-St-Jean or Charlevoix, all beautiful area)

But I'm from Montreal, sorry I'm a bit biased  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on April 28, 2021, 11:32:42 PM
As to Canada, until the shared border with the US is fully reopened to nonessential travel, that will be an indication of where things stand.
Likewise, if you read the media reports about the EU, the strict protocols currently in place there will apply to visitors so  again, it will not mean things are sufficiently normal.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on April 29, 2021, 12:09:45 PM
Singapore is the furthest along on of the high income Asian countries and they've already said they're going to allow vaccinated travelers from certain countries once their caseloads get low enough. It's been a while since they've been their and it has a big airport.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: zacz on April 29, 2021, 06:55:23 PM
Singapore is the furthest along on of the high income Asian countries and they've already said they're going to allow vaccinated travelers from certain countries once their caseloads get low enough. It's been a while since they've been their and it has a big airport.

I think we will be waiting a very long time until the US caseload is regarded as low enough. What people in the US currently regard as low most other areas (except maybe the UK or Brazil) see us extremely high still.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: JAJ on May 01, 2021, 08:23:37 PM
I'm sure that something like this has been posted before, but it's exciting to see a semi-official update on TAR33 nonetheless! https://deadline.com/2021/05/the-amazing-race-bertram-van-munster-elise-doganieri-interview-contenders-tv-1234748421/ (They plan to start production as global immunity is reached and it's safe to head back out onto the racecourse again).
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ianthebalance on May 01, 2021, 08:52:38 PM
While I can't help but roll my eyes at the idea of the "mega-leg" keeping the show fresh, I do like what they said in the article. Thank you.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on May 01, 2021, 11:05:38 PM
Singapore is the furthest along on of the high income Asian countries and they've already said they're going to allow vaccinated travelers from certain countries once their caseloads get low enough. It's been a while since they've been their and it has a big airport.

I think we will be waiting a very long time until the US caseload is regarded as low enough. What people in the US currently regard as low most other areas (except maybe the UK or Brazil) see us extremely high still.

The US was one of the countries specifically mentioned as ones they’re going to allow due to high vaccination rates. The US is at about 55% of adults with a first dose and places like Israel’s cases fell through the floor at about 60%. It should be the second big country to hit “herd immunity” after the UK.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 02, 2021, 03:28:21 PM
I think we are at about 30% of the adult population vaccinated. That is not a quorom by any means.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on May 02, 2021, 07:23:40 PM
With politically inspired vaccine hesitancy, it’s going to be hard for the US to reach herd immunity. Private actors in the US have begun to offer incentives to get people to be vaccinated completely. That’s one reason why the USCDC latest guidance for fully vaccinated people still require masks indoors and outdoors if you’re in a group situation with those not in your household. The variants remain an issue, although the issue is with certain variants, not all of them.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: kyleisalive on May 02, 2021, 07:36:41 PM
Canada is really quickly catching up to the US/UK on vaccinations. I understand why they may not want to go there if they’re able to film by the end of the year because that’d be a lot of rich, English speaking countries but they could always go to Quebec to get a different flair. They’ve only been there in 8 (lol).

This would be a lousy idea (speaking as a Canadian).  The bulk of our population isn't expected to get a second dose of the vaccine until the start of autumn, and that's if we ignore the people who are holding out.  It's not a good time.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Brannockdevice on May 04, 2021, 11:40:01 PM
Canada is really quickly catching up to the US/UK on vaccinations. I understand why they may not want to go there if they’re able to film by the end of the year because that’d be a lot of rich, English speaking countries but they could always go to Quebec to get a different flair. They’ve only been there in 8 (lol).

I think two legs in Canada - specifically one in Quebec and one in the far north, ideally Nunavut - could be feasible, but Canada is doing quite poorly on the vaccination front. Only 3% of Canada's population is fully vaccinated, so they are not "quickly catching up" (this is a good source for tracking all of the data https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html).
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on May 05, 2021, 03:20:55 PM
Canada is really quickly catching up to the US/UK on vaccinations. I understand why they may not want to go there if they’re able to film by the end of the year because that’d be a lot of rich, English speaking countries but they could always go to Quebec to get a different flair. They’ve only been there in 8 (lol).

This would be a lousy idea (speaking as a Canadian).  The bulk of our population isn't expected to get a second dose of the vaccine until the start of autumn, and that's if we ignore the people who are holding out.  It's not a good time.

Oh yeah, this isn't any time soon. q4 is like the earlier I could see them doing it at this point.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on May 07, 2021, 03:48:01 PM
Now the Australian trade minister is saying it could be the second half of next year before their borders are 100% open.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Declive on May 09, 2021, 05:00:36 PM
Sadly i think we'll wait at least 2 years to see this on air. Or even to continue filming...
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: H_E_L_L_O on May 10, 2021, 03:24:47 AM
Depending on when TAR 33 resumes production (hopefully by the end of this year or early next year) I think Tokyo or Beijing, if China hasn't been blacklisted yet, could be apart of the reroute due to TAR's tendency to go to Olympic host cities before or after the games.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on May 10, 2021, 08:41:07 PM
I’m one of those who think global conditions concerning the pandemic and international travel won’t permit filming to resume until sometime in 2022.
Even Survivor might not get in the filming of the spring edition (season 42) because of new COVID-19 concerns in Fiji.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 10, 2021, 09:53:14 PM
Survivor may not get it IN Fiji. But there are other options. TAR is of course a different ballgame. STill TBD.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ianthebalance on May 11, 2021, 06:05:22 PM
If there was any chance of Israel for 33 I feel like it’s gone
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on May 12, 2021, 11:49:05 AM
I think the question at this point on if they could film late this year is the rich countries in East Asia and Oceania that have stomped out COVID with really strict travel restrictions. Europe and some South American countries at this point will probably be fine by then bc of vaccinations but AUS/NZ/East Asia aren’t vaccinating as fast bc they don’t need to. They’re not gonna do it without them IMO.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: LandonM170 on May 12, 2021, 03:19:25 PM
If there was any chance of Israel for 33 I feel like it’s gone
I mean I am not a part of production however I mean I feel like right now it is 100% off with the protests and everything going on with Israel and Palestine.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: kyleisalive on May 13, 2021, 03:59:39 PM
If there was any chance of Israel for 33 I feel like it’s gone
I mean I am not a part of production however I mean I feel like right now it is 100% off with the protests and everything going on with Israel and Palestine.

Israel has rarely, if ever been on the table for U.S. TAR due to political conflict.  It's part of why they haven't been back to Egypt since 2003. 

I think the question at this point on if they could film late this year is the rich countries in East Asia and Oceania that have stomped out COVID with really strict travel restrictions. Europe and some South American countries at this point will probably be fine by then bc of vaccinations but AUS/NZ/East Asia aren’t vaccinating as fast bc they don’t need to. They’re not gonna do it without them IMO.

Oceania (chiefly AUS and NZ) aren't expected to open their borders until mid-2022 at the earliest (as per news yesterday).  Despite high vaccination rates in some SA countries, they still have higher-than-normal cases.  60% of Japan doesn't even want the Olympics around because of how far behind they are with vaccinations.

Realistically, this year is not good for a show about international travel.  As much as we want the race, keep in mind that showing a program like the race on TV during a time when people are apprehensive to travel means a humongous risk of plummeting ratings-- the type of ratings that kept the show in the danger zone of cancellation for its first five seasons (after 9/11).  People can be eager-- that's why people are here-- but be realistic.  Jumping the gun is probably worse for the show than waiting for the right time.

Hell, even if they film it and keep it in reserve, then they make the ardent fans unhappy.  Remember last season when they left it waiting for more than a year and a half?  The people who actually follow the show in the off-season were hyper-critical...only to be outwardly vocal about how much they disliked the season when it actually did air.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: theschnauzers on May 13, 2021, 04:07:19 PM
Apparently Survivor shortened the filming schedule to 29 days, and so, season 42 is being filmed on the same shortened 29 day schedule.

Meanwhile, a major milestone in the US. The US CDC has changed its recommendations and now permits fully vaccinated people to not wear masks, or social distancing whether indoors or outdoors. Again, this applies only to those fully vaccinated.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: ianthebalance on May 13, 2021, 04:19:58 PM
For when the show eventually comes back (assuming it does), whichever year it is, I'd love if it would be like the start of a new era of TAR  :luvya: (since there have been some issues needing fixing)

And I knew Israel was slim even before the recent events
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on May 13, 2021, 10:08:51 PM
I’d wager they won’t visit countries primarily using the Chinese vaccine(s) either. They seem to be okay at stopping you from developing a severe case which is good but they’re not great at stopping cases period.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: kyleisalive on May 13, 2021, 11:22:33 PM
I’d wager they won’t visit countries primarily using the Chinese vaccine(s) either. They seem to be okay at stopping you from developing a severe case which is good but they’re not great at stopping cases period.

Virtually all of South America, China, and Southeast Asia.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: zacz on May 16, 2021, 06:57:03 PM
Taiwan and Singapore are having outbreaks as well after doing so well for so long. Taiwan has a low vaccination rate but in Singapore doesn't and the outbreak is occurring among those who are vaccinated which is extremely concerning.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 17, 2021, 05:18:31 AM
What it takes to Enter the UK:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-amber-and-green-list-rules-for-entering-england

US is an amber country
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on May 18, 2021, 10:27:03 AM
Another option I could see them trying to get out of going rich countries only is to work with some of the middle income countries where they go a lot that have handled the pandemic well (mostly Vietnam) and work out a deal as long as everyone on production is vaccinated. Put the local crew up in quarantine hotels or use those who have been vaccinated, do stuff exclusively outside, use N95s, etc. The dollar goes a long way in middle income countries and some may look at it as advertising for travel once things get back to normal. Just a thought.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: Xoruz on May 19, 2021, 09:26:49 AM
From Kelly Kahl

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We hope to get them out as soon as there is a piece of the world that opens up that allows enough legs of travel. It’s literally a day-by-day situation, the team is ready to go and we certainly hope to get a greenlight before the end of the year. We hope to have it for midseason, but that all depends on when they get out.

https://deadline.com/2021/05/cbs-pilot-season-ncis-csi-las-vegas-the-amazing-race-ghosts-1234759899/
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on May 19, 2021, 07:42:41 PM
From Kelly Kahl

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We hope to get them out as soon as there is a piece of the world that opens up that allows enough legs of travel. It’s literally a day-by-day situation, the team is ready to go and we certainly hope to get a greenlight before the end of the year. We hope to have it for midseason, but that all depends on when they get out.

https://deadline.com/2021/05/cbs-pilot-season-ncis-csi-las-vegas-the-amazing-race-ghosts-1234759899/
Today, the EU member states all agreed to the notion of lifting travel restrictions. If I understand it correctly for now it’s just nationals of a handful of countries. However, vaccinated Americans are next up once they can work out the verification system. Some countries are already doing it. It’s a big step IMO.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on May 19, 2021, 08:26:12 PM
Obviously there is still a lot of uncertainties, but with Kelly Kahl's enthusiasm, hopefully they can go out and film 33 before the end of the year and air it in the Spring 2022 season. With a potential February premiere date, it would be exactly around the 2-year mark since the shutdown, so I could easily see CBS leaning into the marketing of presenting it as this big event 2 year's in the making and the promos being like "2-years later" so it makes sense.

My main hope is that after this we just go back to two seasons a year with Spring/Fall editions. Tough as Nails is getting the post-Survivor slot this Fall, so maybe next Spring it'll go to TAR33 instead. Then hopefully from then on we can keep the Wednesday night post-Survivor slot permanently.
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: georgiapeach on May 20, 2021, 01:25:36 AM
More Viacom news:

Coincidentally, the first “CSI” launched the same year as “Survivor,” which will kick off Wednesdays as it returns to its regular 8 p.m. slot this fall with Season 41. “Survivor” has been off the air since spring 2020 due to the COVID-19 pandemic, but has resumed shooting at its Fiji base. And although online reports have questioned whether spikes in infections in Fiji might further delay things, Kahl said the return of “Survivor” is well under way.

“They are in production and everything is going well and according to plan,” he said. “We expect to have two versions for the season.”

The return of “The Amazing Race” remains more up in the air, however. The show’s 33rd cycle was perhaps the first major U.S. production to halt due to the COVID-19 pandemic, when filming on the show’s Season 33 was paused at the end of February 2020. Contestants were sent home, and continue to wait for the competition to resume. “They are waiting for a significant chunk of the world to open itself up,” Kahl said. “I believe they can turn around and get out there fairly quickly. We are hoping to have this completed version by the end of the season, but there’s just a lot of things outside our control.”

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/cbs-fall-2021-schedule-ncis-fbi-csi-1234976357/ (https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/cbs-fall-2021-schedule-ncis-fbi-csi-1234976357/)
Title: Re: TAR 33 PRE-RACE Speculation (dates/cast/routes)
Post by: cerealking on June 14, 2021, 09:01:11 AM
Thailand is opening up Phuket for vaccinated traveled July 1st and hopes to fully reopen to travelers by October 1st. It’s a favorite location for the show but I think they’ll have to wait and see what the high income countries in East Asia do bc they travel through them to get home or further into Asia since there’s no direct flights.