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The Amazing Race => Amazing Race 33 => Topic started by: georgiapeach on February 28, 2020, 05:14:06 AM
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Hoping that all of us devoted TAR FANS will give CBS, WRP, PRODUCTION. CREW, and CAST all of our love and support during this difficult time.
Until we have time to see what this means for TAR Season 33, RFF will be doing everything possible to support our Amazing Race Family.
For now, this means that our Discussions of the Race. The Route and Tasks, and MOST important our Beloved Contestants have all been moved to a safe place.
We will have to see how this unfolds...but as always, our first responsibility is to be sure that none of our Contestant reveals and discussions would interfere with a chance to resume the race at some point.
This event is heartbreaking for all of our TAR 33 Family, and RFF will do whatever we can to support our TAR FAMILY during this time.
Thank you all for understanding. I know all of you here love TAR with a passion, and will join us in fully supporting everyone involved with TAR 33.
Love you all!
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This is a fairly obvious thought given the current world situation but I thought I'd point it out. I just read on another message board about someone who flew from San Francisco to Frankfurt a few days ago and said the plane was only about 20% full. I'm guessing that on most occasions this season there will be little suspense about getting booked on a flight.
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It’s also possible teams didn’t fly out of {last known location} (edit). I have no hard information, but wondering if they’re consciously try to avoid airports until they have to.
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Really unfortunate for the teams and production though completely understandable. I was afraid that this could happen considering the coronavirus is on the brink of becoming a pandemic. Hoping they'll be able to resume once this ends.
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God, I just hope they finish filming the season when things calm down. I can't even imagine how devastated I would be if I were on TAR and the season got canceled three legs in. I’m disappointed they got sent home and I’m just a viewer!
They really shouldn't have done the race with the coronavirus being such an issue. It's good that they're stopping now and everyone can remain safe, but I can't help but think it was a little irresponsible to go out and film right now.
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Yeah, continuing on from leg 4 is the way to go IMO.
Restarting again from the beginning wouldn't be fair to the teams who survived the first 3 legs. Cancelling it entirely would suck for everybody.
I wonder how they'll handle it when it finally airs though. Do they just ignore it, potential continuity problems and all?
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CBS announces that the TAR 33 filming is suspended duo to the CoronaVirus situation.
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I expect they will continue from leg 4. They probably will have a statement at the beginning that the filming was suspended due to concerns over the Corona virus epidemic and that X months have passed since the filming of leg 3. The producers and staff would like to express their sorrow to all who died or were affected by this disease. This season is dedicated to the victims. Something like that. I'm not sure what they will do if one or more teams are unavailable then.
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I'm not sure what they will do if one or more teams are unavailable then.
This is my biggest concern as well. I would be shocked if whole cast would be available when they decide to continue with filming.
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So disappointed but not at all surprised. I was shock they would’ve started filming in the first place. So many travelers canceling their vacations and plans, let alone a trip around the world! Totally understandable but just seems like a total misfire on production for starting in the first place.
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They shouldn't ignore it. In fact, they would gain a lot more attention if they were to address the coronavirus at the start and then include them possibly discussing to halt production at the end of what would be episode 3.
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Will be very interesting to see where it goes from here!! I can't imagine everyone being available to film again. If you're one of the eliminated teams, you're not going to take another month off work!! Maybe theyll just be willing to fly the couple of eliminated teams into the final city for the finish line.
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CBS announces that the TAR 33 filming is suspended duo to the CoronaVirus situation.
Link from Variety.com (https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/cbs-suspends-amazing-race-production-coronavirus-fears-1203519026/)
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They shouldn't ignore it. In fact, they would gain a lot more attention if they were to address the coronavirus at the start and then include them possibly discussing to halt production at the end of what would be episode 3.
Like on Survivor David vs. Goliath when they showed them halting production and evacuating the cast due to a really bad storm, and then returned to camp later.
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Why on earth did CBS allow TAR33 to start filming one week ago & and then order it stop filming one week later and after 3 legs? I seriously don't understand CBS's logic for one second! :groan:
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Why on earth did CBS allow TAR33 to start filming one week ago & and then order it stop filming one week later and after 3 legs? I seriously don't understand CBS's logic for one second! :groan:
At the time filming started, the spread of the virus was stable and manageable. In the past 24 hours, South Korea announced over 500 new cases, and Italy announced over 200. The extent of the virus outside of China was much larger than previously thought when teams were sequestered and became too unpredictable.
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I think that production kept going until the powers that be cancelled it. The crew were probably aware of the recent virus reports but did not have authorization to shut the filming down.
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I know that we are all heartbroken for our beloved race. But this was the right thing to do and I know you all will join me in giving the Producers, the Crew, and the Cast all of our support during this difficult time.
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I support TAR crew members and cast for taking this important decision.
I'm hoping no one caught the virus.
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Obviously, I (and many others) are devastated with the decision to put TAR33 on hiatus. However, the health, safety & wellbeing of the production crew & the contestants is of the upmost importance and they have made the right decision! Let's hope this is only temporary!
“Due to increased concerns and uncertainty regarding the coronavirus around the world, CBS and the producers of The Amazing Race have taken the precautionary measure of temporarily suspending production on the 33rd season of the series,” the network said today. “All contestants and production staff are in the process of returning home.”
“At this time, no Racers or anyone on the production team traveling with them have contracted the virus or shown symptoms, and we are not aware of anyone being exposed to it,”
https://deadline.com/2020/02/coronavirus-amazing-race-stopped-production-cbs-survivor-1202870836/
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For example, Bachelor in Paradise 2017 was temporarily suspended filming due to two contestants being treated from sexual misconduct, most of that cast returned to filming a couple of days later. I wonder the race might have to restart filming all over again.
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Kind of figured this was coming once it got so bad in Italy. Everyone’s health and safety comes first. Hopefully they can get rolling again here soon once Spring officially gets here and kills off the strand for now.
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Why on earth did CBS allow TAR33 to start filming one week ago & and then order it stop filming one week later and after 3 legs? I seriously don't understand CBS's logic for one second! :groan:
Because up until this week, it was mostly contained to China but now at least Italy and SK (out of potential countries they’ll go to, it’s bad in Iran too but ain’t nobody going there) are getting hit really hard.
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Kind of figured this was coming once it got so bad in Italy. Everyone’s health and safety comes first. Hopefully they can get rolling again here soon once Spring officially gets here and kills on the strand for now.
Perhaps a production reschedule?
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Kind of figured this was coming once it got so bad in Italy. Everyone’s health and safety comes first. Hopefully they can get rolling again here soon once Spring officially gets here and kills on the strand for now.
Perhaps a production reschedule?
I’m very doubtful that this season gets rescheduled anytime soon. It’d be so hard for everyone to get the time off work again so soon after they took off for this filming period
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They could also take a couple of weeks to figure out a Southern Hemisphere route. Then again by the time they do that, it’ll be Spring officially and the virus will likely have mostly died off. I guess they’ve learned to never do a peak flu season (February) filming ever again.
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It is indeed sad, but a wise decision. Health & safety come first. I wonder how they will continue filming moving forward, these people have jobs and other commitments. Hopefully, the season does not get cancelled.
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I just pray that don't cancelled the season, and we never get another season of TAR US.
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So how will they redo the season?
I mean,they will continue as 9 teams (starting from UK)?
Or a completely new set of teams
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I’m choosing to remain optimistic. They do 12 shows in 21 days, they’re 3 shows and 6 days down. They only need 15 more days to film, that’s reasonable for the cast to be able to take off of work. And I bet they could make an arrangement where people can return home/to work if they’re eliminated and just have them return for the finish line. It’s no sooooo unreasonable to think they could make it work
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I kinda want them to continue normally, but have the already eliminated teams in sequester.
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They could also take a couple of weeks to figure out a Southern Hemisphere route. Then again by the time they do that, it’ll be Spring officially and the virus will likely have mostly died off. I guess they’ve learned to never do a peak flu season (February) filming ever again.
When March comes as spring will go on, hopefully the race might get to start reshooting the first two-three legs all over again. Southern Hemisphere will go on autumn (fall) in the coming weeks and Europe will start DST in the last Sunday of March.
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I guess we can go through the different options they would have. These would be hypothetical situations based on an assumption that 2 teams have been eliminated in 3 Legs.
1. Continue Race where they left off, same cast
Have the remaining teams continue Racing starting at Leg 4.
"Roadblock": Teams may no longer be available for a one month shoot whenever production restarts.
2. Restart the entire Race, same cast
Roadblock: Unfair for the teams that survived the first 3 Legs. But argument could be made that unfair for the eliminated teams who had to compete in the difficult circumstances.
3. Restart the entire Race, "new" cast
Include teams who would be available when production restarts, fill remaining spots with new teams. Any original TAR33 teams can be held for possible future season, per availability.
4. Restart the entire Race, ALL new cast
Clean slate, brand new cast.
How to deal with the already filmed Legs and episodes?:
For option 1: Start the season off specifically mentioning how the Race was to originally occur in the midst of the outbreak. Then during Episode 3, include the discussions and process over which the decision was made to suspend production. (Would be a very dramatic episode) Episode 4 would begin with essentially summarizing the events between suspension of and restarting of production. Would be a fascinating documentation of the world at this present time.
For options 2 and 3: Start the season normally, then the Episode 3 explanation of the decision to suspend production.
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Air a special premiere episode in a sort of documentary style chronicling the series of events from the decision to start production, the production itself then the decision to suspend. Then proceed the season as normal.
For option 4: Turn the already filmed Legs into a sort of miniseries/documentary. Perhaps still consider the season as TAR33 and any restart of production and the next fully complete season will be TAR34. It will be a fascinating moment and document of the world to have TAR33 be a sort of "lost season". But obviously still air it.
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They could also take a couple of weeks to figure out a Southern Hemisphere route. Then again by the time they do that, it’ll be Spring officially and the virus will likely have mostly died off. I guess they’ve learned to never do a peak flu season (February) filming ever again.
It's not peak flu season in Feb for half the world!
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Oh my gosh, I don’t come on here for barely two days and they cancel the season?! :'(
What happened?! Is there a recap or summary of what’s all went down? I get it was because of cornavirus concerns but do we have more details?
Also what else went on race wise? Last I heard Glasgow was leg 2 and teams checked in the Pit Stop but we never found out who got out. Did we ever find out who was eliminated? Did they end up having a leg 3 or was it already cancelled by then? I would look this information up myself but all the old TAR 33 threads are missing. Are there any links to those threads still or were they removed?
This is such a sad situation overall but as someone else pointed out, it reminds me of the Bachelor in Paradise shutdown a few seasons ago. I dont really understand why they would cancel the whole season... they could just avoid China/Italy/South Korea... but I won’t make any judgements. Hopefully they end up continuing later in March hopefully?
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They could also take a couple of weeks to figure out a Southern Hemisphere route. Then again by the time they do that, it’ll be Spring officially and the virus will likely have mostly died off. I guess they’ve learned to never do a peak flu season (February) filming ever again.
It's not peak flu season in Feb for half the world!
Coronavirus is related to SARS not the flu and is a completely different virus to the flu despite similar symptoms.
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Oh my gosh, I don’t come on here for barely two days and they cancel the season?! :'(
What happened?! Is there a recap or summary of what’s all went down? I get it was because of cornavirus concerns but do we have more details?
Also what else went on race wise? Last I heard Glasgow was leg 2 and teams checked in the Pit Stop but we never found out who got out. Did we ever find out who was eliminated? Did they end up having a leg 3 or was it already cancelled by then? I would look this information up myself but all the old TAR 33 threads are missing. Are there any links to those threads still or were they removed?
This is such a sad situation overall but as someone else pointed out, it reminds me of the Bachelor in Paradise shutdown a few seasons ago. I dont really understand why they would cancel the whole season... they could just avoid China/Italy/South Korea... but I won’t make any judgements. Hopefully they end up continuing later in March hopefully?
All we have is the statement from CBS and the articles at variety.com and hollywoodreporter.com. CBS is calling it a suspension of filming not a cancellation though getting everyone together and resuming where they left off will be tough. The Variety article says that 3 legs were filmed in England and Scotland and that teams returned to the US from Scotland. So, if the article is right about a third leg being filmed, it must have been in Scotland and we didn’t get any information about it.
As for who was eliminated, I think we had a good idea who was eliminated in the first leg but weren’t 100% sure. As for legs 2 and 3, I don’t think we have a clue.
I think they looked at the spread of the virus in the last few days and probably concluded that places that looked OK today might not be OK a few days or a week from now. They always have some backup plans if a location doesn’t work out, but if they have to do that for most of the episodes, it would be expensive and likely create chaos.
It’s also possible that their insurance company wasn’t happy about covering liability if people got sick on the race or, God forbid, died.
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I guess we can go through the different options they would have. These would be hypothetical situations based on an assumption that 2 teams have been eliminated in 3 Legs.
1. Continue Race where they left off, same cast
Have the remaining teams continue Racing starting at Leg 4.
"Roadblock": Teams may no longer be available for a one month shoot whenever production restarts.
2. Restart the entire Race, same cast
Roadblock: Unfair for the teams that survived the first 3 Legs. But argument could be made that unfair for the eliminated teams who had to compete in the difficult circumstances.
3. Restart the entire Race, "new" cast
Include teams who would be available when production restarts, fill remaining spots with new teams. Any original TAR33 teams can be held for possible future season, per availability.
4. Restart the entire Race, ALL new cast
Clean slate, brand new cast.
How to deal with the already filmed Legs and episodes?:
For option 1: Start the season off specifically mentioning how the Race was to originally occur in the midst of the outbreak. Then during Episode 3, include the discussions and process over which the decision was made to suspend production. (Would be a very dramatic episode) Episode 4 would begin with essentially summarizing the events between suspension of and restarting of production. Would be a fascinating documentation of the world at this present time.
For options 2 and 3: Start the season normally, then the Episode 3 explanation of the decision to suspend production.
OR
Air a special premiere episode in a sort of documentary style chronicling the series of events from the decision to start production, the production itself then the decision to suspend. Then proceed the season as normal.
For option 4: Turn the already filmed Legs into a sort of miniseries/documentary. Perhaps still consider the season as TAR33 and any restart of production and the next fully complete season will be TAR34. It will be a fascinating moment and document of the world to have TAR33 be a sort of "lost season". But obviously still air it.
Nice analysis on the summary, Dryedmangoez.
I wonder that option 4 is shown above with a mix of 2 and 3 that the race would be restarted from the beginning, then reshoot the first 2 legs and I don't think that eliminated teams wouldn't be brought back as give the alternates might replace them.
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I guess we can go through the different options they would have. These would be hypothetical situations based on an assumption that 2 teams have been eliminated in 3 Legs.
1. Continue Race where they left off, same cast
Have the remaining teams continue Racing starting at Leg 4.
"Roadblock": Teams may no longer be available for a one month shoot whenever production restarts.
2. Restart the entire Race, same cast
Roadblock: Unfair for the teams that survived the first 3 Legs. But argument could be made that unfair for the eliminated teams who had to compete in the difficult circumstances.
3. Restart the entire Race, "new" cast
Include teams who would be available when production restarts, fill remaining spots with new teams. Any original TAR33 teams can be held for possible future season, per availability.
4. Restart the entire Race, ALL new cast
Clean slate, brand new cast.
How to deal with the already filmed Legs and episodes?:
For option 1: Start the season off specifically mentioning how the Race was to originally occur in the midst of the outbreak. Then during Episode 3, include the discussions and process over which the decision was made to suspend production. (Would be a very dramatic episode) Episode 4 would begin with essentially summarizing the events between suspension of and restarting of production. Would be a fascinating documentation of the world at this present time.
For options 2 and 3: Start the season normally, then the Episode 3 explanation of the decision to suspend production.
OR
Air a special premiere episode in a sort of documentary style chronicling the series of events from the decision to start production, the production itself then the decision to suspend. Then proceed the season as normal.
For option 4: Turn the already filmed Legs into a sort of miniseries/documentary. Perhaps still consider the season as TAR33 and any restart of production and the next fully complete season will be TAR34. It will be a fascinating moment and document of the world to have TAR33 be a sort of "lost season". But obviously still air it.
Great analysis dryermangoez!
On a different note, STUPID CORONAVIRUS. Can this already end now. What a great start to a decade.
People dying, people getting sick, economies falling, tourism down, panic buying. Ugh. Hoping and praying that this ends. The world has suffered a lot already.
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One of the worst parts now is that so many staff members have essentially been laid off and now have no job
https://twitter.com/Kfu3000/status/1233485578512920577
This is awful :(
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There’s some misunderstanding in the posts above about the circumstances. Just hours before the CBS announcement the World Health Organization raised its level of concern on the potential for this particular virus the spread from High to Very High, its most severe level of concern. In addition, a second case was identified in the U.S. that was unrelated to travelers from an area of infection or from the quarantined cruise ship in Japan. It’s highly concerning because it demonstrates community transmission of the virus in places where protocols are not in place to reduce transmission. And then the coronavirus was now confirmed to have cases on every continent, except Antartica. This includes Africa, (including sub-Saharan Africa) Australia and South America. The coronavirus while not transmitted through the air, can last in an open environment for nine days. Symptoms are nor consistent, some people have mild symptoms and can die, others will have severe symptoms and survive. And you can be exposed to ad become ill more than once. So there’s no established natural immunity.
And it is still not clear what the incubation period is. Travel has become a major concern for transmission as well as inadequate means of isolating people who may have been exposed or have been exposed or have come down with the illness.
It’s clear that production had run out of options for filming additional legs due to these circumstances. With the now global spread of the coronavirus it can’t. Be considered seasonal like the flu, and it is not a flu to begin with. SARS was the closest thing they’ve seen like this, but the newer coronavirus appears to have features to make it harder to treat and control. Official a vaccine or treatment is thought to be 12 to 18 months away, but some potential treatments are already undergoing human trials to expedite this.
The other immediate issue to shortages of the tests need to detect coronavirus, and other supplies such as masks on a global basis. Many medical masks are not the right type for coronavirus, and would be ineffective.
Personally the filming could resume wherever production chooses for the fourth leg, they wouldn’t have to return to a particular location from the three filmed legs. I suspect affected third parties (I.e., employers and so forth can be persuaded to cooperate under the circumstances.
Just remember, there hasn’t been anything like this in a century, the 1919 pandemic. And this is the first season to be drastically affect since TAR 2, filmed immediately after 9/11 when security constraints were unexpectedly difficult. And that was worked out.
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They could also take a couple of weeks to figure out a Southern Hemisphere route. Then again by the time they do that, it’ll be Spring officially and the virus will likely have mostly died off. I guess they’ve learned to never do a peak flu season (February) filming ever again.
It's not peak flu season in Feb for half the world!
I just mean that this is a bad time to go from a health angle, not necessarily the flu specifically. Was using it as a catch all. This year it’s COVID but one year they could do it in a really bad flu year and everyone could get sick and they have to stop production.
Coronavirus is related to SARS not the flu and is a completely different virus to the flu despite similar symptoms.
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I see RFF already pretending this season never happened. Why TAR33 threads are hide/deleted?
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I see RFF already pretending this season never happened. Why TAR33 threads are hide/deleted?
To protect the racers and maintain as much confidentiality as possible until the race resumes.
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Lmao sorry that above post’s formatting got so messed up but I was just using “flu season” as a catch all term. This year it’s the COVID that’s bad but any other February filming could run into a bad flu season and everyone ends up getting sick.
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Lmao sorry that above post’s formatting got so messed up but I was just using “flu season” as a catch all term. This year it’s the COVID that’s bad but any other February filming could run into a bad flu season and everyone ends up getting sick.
When the suspended production would take a little longer, hopefully the race could restart filming by late March or early April early 2021.
JMO
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Somebody posted this on reddit, can anybody verify? (Potential Route spoilers)
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claudemac24hrs38m
Just before the race got halted production, the race route for TAR 33 is supposedly starting at United Kingdom 🇬🇧 (England 🏴 and Scotland 🏴) - Sweden 🇸🇪 - Spain 🇪🇸 - South Africa 🇿🇦 - Mozambique 🇲🇿 - Thailand 🇹🇭 - Indonesia 🇮🇩 - Australia 🇦🇺 - Japan 🇯🇵; a 5-continent race as planned. No new countries (TAR 21, 22, 23, 24 and 29), just some countries would be undervisited as they visited in TAR one to two times.
Whether the 33rd race would be going back to production by late March or early April, the route will be modified from the initial eastbound route in England and Scotland, and through into the westerly route from Oceania and to the penultimate leg in Europe.
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Somebody posted this on reddit, can anybody verify? (Potential Route spoilers)
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claudemac24hrs38m
Just before the race got halted production, the race route for TAR 33 is supposedly starting at United Kingdom 🇬🇧 (England 🏴 and Scotland 🏴) - Sweden 🇸🇪 - Spain 🇪🇸 - South Africa 🇿🇦 - Mozambique 🇲🇿 - Thailand 🇹🇭 - Indonesia 🇮🇩 - Australia 🇦🇺 - Japan 🇯🇵; a 5-continent race as planned. No new countries (TAR 21, 22, 23, 24 and 29), just some countries would be undervisited as they visited in TAR one to two times.
Whether the 33rd race would be going back to production by late March or early April, the route will be modified from the initial eastbound route in England and Scotland, and through into the westerly route from Oceania and to the penultimate leg in Europe.
Honestly, that route sounds too good to be true. If it’s real though, stupid coronavirus virus. What a missed opportunity :(
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1. Assuming all the remaining 8 or 9 teams can return...
Maybe they could do it like how TAR China does it with celebrities. They film for a few days (2 consecutive legs in the same country or i neighboring countries), then they go on a break for 2 or 3 weeks before returning for the next 2 legs. Edit the legs so they still appear continuous.
2. Redo TAR33 from the start, and invite all teams that cannot participate in TAR33 for a future season. If not, they get some sort of compensation.
To be honest, I am surprised that this season was even given the go-ahead a few weeks ago. (I mean, I know the filming date was planned months ago, but I would assume the producers would have pulled the plug on this about 2 to 3 weeks earlier, and postpone everything till July perhaps.)
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Somebody posted this on reddit, can anybody verify? (Potential Route spoilers)
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claudemac24hrs38m
Just before the race got halted production, the race route for TAR 33 is supposedly starting at United Kingdom 🇬🇧 (England 🏴 and Scotland 🏴) - Sweden 🇸🇪 - Spain 🇪🇸 - South Africa 🇿🇦 - Mozambique 🇲🇿 - Thailand 🇹🇭 - Indonesia 🇮🇩 - Australia 🇦🇺 - Japan 🇯🇵; a 5-continent race as planned. No new countries (TAR 21, 22, 23, 24 and 29), just some countries would be undervisited as they visited in TAR one to two times.
Whether the 33rd race would be going back to production by late March or early April, the route will be modified from the initial eastbound route in England and Scotland, and through into the westerly route from Oceania and to the penultimate leg in Europe.
This is false.
This is Claude posting opinions as facts again.
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Lmao sorry that above post’s formatting got so messed up but I was just using “flu season” as a catch all term. This year it’s the COVID that’s bad but any other February filming could run into a bad flu season and everyone ends up getting sick.
When the suspended production would take a little longer, hopefully the race could restart filming by late March or early April.
JMO
In theory, they only need to wait it out a few more weeks but I guess we’ll just have to see how it pans out irl.
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I apologize for this that I posted at Reddit. So please you have no right to copy my post from Reddit to this forum.
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https://twitter.com/bnodesk?lang=en
1st case reported in Ecuador.
Honestly, it would have been extremely difficult to hit a country with 0 infections. A country with 0 infections is likely to be a country with not enough test kits and with less than desirable healthcare standards.
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Just for information, does anyone recall how TAR production dealt with the SARS and MERS outbreaks in the past?
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Somebody posted this on reddit, can anybody verify? (Potential Route spoilers)
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claudemac24hrs38m
Just before the race got halted production, the race route for TAR 33 is supposedly starting at United Kingdom 🇬🇧 (England 🏴 and Scotland 🏴) - Sweden 🇸🇪 - Spain 🇪🇸 - South Africa 🇿🇦 - Mozambique 🇲🇿 - Thailand 🇹🇭 - Indonesia 🇮🇩 - Australia 🇦🇺 - Japan 🇯🇵; a 5-continent race as planned. No new countries (TAR 21, 22, 23, 24 and 29), just some countries would be undervisited as they visited in TAR one to two times.
Whether the 33rd race would be going back to production by late March or early April, the route will be modified from the initial eastbound route in England and Scotland, and through into the westerly route from Oceania and to the penultimate leg in Europe.
This is false.
This is Claude posting opinions as facts again.
I genuinely dislike when this keeps coming up. Speculation is one thing, but it impresses no one to repeatedly 'inform people' with a fake, unconfirmed route or, in other channels, to spoil it in advance.
So please you have no right to copy my post from Reddit to this forum.
They cited the author. It's not against rights for someone to copy and paste posts with attribution. Welcome to the internet. Nobody is hunting someone down for message board not-quite-plagiarism.
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Just for information, does anyone recall how TAR production dealt with the SARS and MERS outbreaks in the past?
The SARS outbreak was at a peak in 2003-- they filmed TAR4 in winter of that year. They didn't go to South China, Hong Kong, or Toronto, where the most prominent outbreaks were. Simple as that.
Coronavirus only leaned into the pandemic stage in the past week or two, and it probably made sense to start production, especially with early countries not being affected quite yet, instead of postponing for the cast, crew, and logistics that were probably already fully-booked.
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I see RFF already pretending this season never happened. Why TAR33 threads are hide/deleted?
This was my decision with support from the Detective team.
The reason is this: Production said in their post that there may be a CHANCE that this race can continue. If that is the case how could we possibly have full info on their castmates that they might not know? If the route were to remain the same how could we have leg info?
I made this call almost immediately on seeing the news.
Once it seems calmer hope I can get some feedback that will tell us how best to proceed. Meanwhile we'll hold the info safely.
And those of you who know how much I personally love TAR know that this is heartbreaking for me and indeed of all of us who love the show.
Thanks for the well written summaries Mangoes! And the Schnauzers for the coronavirus updates.
It happens that I have a very broad medical background..and am in a position to read and understand the medical implications.
Based on what we know this was 1000% the right call. This isn't a bad cold or a mild flu. It has the potential to escalate and cause havoc and serious loss of life around the world. NOT continuing the race has my full support and I understand completely.
Sure doesn't mean that I am not devastated for the teams, the crew, and our wonderful Producers and even RFF too.
We need to be also aware that this has the potential to affect upcoming filming of Survivor, two new Disney/Profiles shows (The Quest) and many others.
For now the RIGHT thing is to protect LIVES first. Shows are a distant second.
I suggest a good read of the latest WHO (World Health Organization) updates to stay firmly on top of this. The current US admin is NOT your best source of info. Just saying.
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WHO Link:
https://www.who.int/ith/en/
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IMO, They should have not filmed in the beginning. Now it's become a mess.
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BVM has posted on my FB saying basically no choice...
You should be able to see it even if we are not FB friends as its public:
https://www.facebook.com/georgiapeach1/posts/10158057242842962?notif_id=1582936823619556¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic
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I wonder what will happen with 3 already filmed episodes... Will they be released some day? at CBS ALL ACCES maybe? or this will be really our lost season?
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My heart goes out to all involved on the race and the decision WRP made was truly a relief. There's nothing a single hero could have possibly done to prevent the virus from spreading even more and this was the best and most sensible move for now. I'm just glad everyone is, hopefully, safe. I know people on here have talked about the Chinese version of TAR transplanting teams back to locations because of contractual circumstances that paused the race so perhaps this could be done when the viral spread reaches a conclusion. Flying the teams back out to the UK when all this coronavirus chaos is contained and treated right seems like the only other option besides full trash chuting this season.
I didn't -not- expect TAR to be worrisome this filming cycle with the medico political stuff in play, but I didn't expect TAR to be taken out like this. Honestly, even a "Family Edition" style race within the U.S. would be risky because there are confirmed cases here as well.
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The problem goes far deeper than just returning them to the last leg.
It takes WEEKS of planning for each leg. Ground crew/locations/permits/local staff/hotels/medical backup. All of which is based on a SPECIFIC date.
For EACH leg highly likely that ALL of that would have to be redone.
I have full confidence in WRP...but starting this all over, reassembling a full production team, resetting the planned tasks seems overwhelming. It is just like starting over.
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Somebody posted this on reddit, can anybody verify? (Potential Route spoilers)
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claudemac24hrs38m
Just before the race got halted production, the race route for TAR 33 is supposedly starting at United Kingdom 🇬🇧 (England 🏴 and Scotland 🏴) - Sweden 🇸🇪 - Spain 🇪🇸 - South Africa 🇿🇦 - Mozambique 🇲🇿 - Thailand 🇹🇭 - Indonesia 🇮🇩 - Australia 🇦🇺 - Japan 🇯🇵; a 5-continent race as planned. No new countries (TAR 21, 22, 23, 24 and 29), just some countries would be undervisited as they visited in TAR one to two times.
Whether the 33rd race would be going back to production by late March or early April, the route will be modified from the initial eastbound route in England and Scotland, and through into the westerly route from Oceania and to the penultimate leg in Europe.
If this was real! Oh wow, Sweden, South Africa, Mozambique, Australia! :groan: :whoop:
Since this is totally incorrect perhaps best if we stop quoting it?
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georgiapeach - What is your opinion about future of TAR33? Should we consider this season to be never finished with actual cast? That seems the most likely to me. Production is done with TAR as of now, right? No planning,casting, etc.
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They could still restart the Race on Leg 4 with the same cast. They wouldn't need to return to the originally planned route, of course.
But if it's just far too much trouble to reassemble the cast, they might as well just scrap the entire season. Keep it as TAR33 with a asterisk by it. Air (TV, online, wherever) what they have as some kind of special miniseries/documentary-style thing. And next fully-produced season will just be TAR34. (Which can still include the same cast or however many teams are available or are interested to return.)
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They could still restart the Race on Leg 4 with the same cast. They wouldn't need to return to the originally planned route, of course.
But if it's just far too much trouble to reassemble the cast, they might as well just scrap the entire season. Keep it as TAR33 with a asterisk by it. Air (TV, online, wherever) what they have as some kind of special miniseries/documentary-style thing. And next fully-produced season will just be TAR34. (Which can still include the same cast or however many teams are available or are interested to return.)
I’ve been thinking and I don’t think it’d be that hard to reassemble the cast. They all just need to take a little over two weeks off work and that doesn’t sound too unreasonable. The hard part in my opinion would be planning legs 4-12 because they’d basically be planning an entirely new season from scratch
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The best solution imo would be finish this season when it will be possible, with original available cast. Let's say in these 3 filmed legs 3 teams were eliminated.
8 teams remained... It's march 2021. No Coronavirus.
7 out of 8 teams are available for filming. These 7 teams will be continue to race...
Another 6 legs will be filmed.
No exotic countries, long distance flights, the motto is "finish it cheap".
5 legs in North/South America, 6th leg in USA.
CBS already spend and lost ton of money on this season. They could try to make at least some small profit of it if possible.
All what they should do is just finish this when possible by filming just 5 or 6 another legs.
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The best solution imo would be finish this season when it will be possible, with original available cast. Let's say in these 3 filmed legs 3 teams were eliminated.
8 teams remained... It's march 2021. No Coronavirus.
7 out of 8 teams are available for filming. These 7 teams will be continue to race...
Another 6 legs will be filmed.
No exotic countries, long distance flights, the motto is "finish it cheap".
5 legs in North/South America, 6th leg in USA.
CBS already spend and lost ton of money on this season. They could try to make at least some small profit of it if possible.
All what they should do is just finish this when possible by filming just 5 or 6 another legs.
March 2021, one of the dating couples have become the married couple (& the lady is pregnant), the Showmance couple have been asked back on their show All-Stars and the daughter of the Father/Daughter team has gone back to University.
Now we are short three teams out of the original eight. What happens now? Even if they come back right, some relationships may have changed in the interim, how do you overwrite?
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I only have been watching live since Season 26 however I have since almost every season. Is it just me, or is anyone else very scare. Do you guys think CBS will put off Amazing Race, then one day they will announce the show is cancelled because we all know Amazing Race is in the bottom tier of CBS shows in CBS' eyes. Anyone that has watched the show for over 10 years tell me if you think.
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I only have been watching live since Season 26 however I have since almost every season. Is it just me, or is anyone else very scare. Do you guys think CBS will put off Amazing Race, then one day they will announce the show is cancelled because we all know Amazing Race is in the bottom tier of CBS shows in CBS' eyes. Anyone that has watched the show for over 10 years tell me if you think.
I'm sure CBS is not happy with what's been happening... this is likely millions of dollars lost because of the production halt.
At this point, worst case scenario is: CBS quietly cancels TAR, TAR33 never resumes filming and the 3 episodes filmed never see the light of day, TAR32 never airs (or at the very least gets dumped in one go on All-Access with no promotion) and TAR US never sees the light of day again. Worst case scenario right here.
Best case scenario: the coronavirus clears up, production resumes by April, TAR 33 completes filming from where they left off on episode 4 onward and they get to promote the season/specifically episode 3 ending on a cliff hanger/episode 4 as a big event which may draw in ratings when it finally airs. TAR32 airs in the summer/Fall. TAR 33 airs in the Fall/Winter 2021. TAR 34 and TAR 35 are filmed back-to-back and CBS starts finally filming/airing two season a year once again. A long shot I know... but I did say this was best case scenario.
So take the worse case scenario and the best case scenario... realistically what would be a good middle ground?
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Realistically, CBS doesn't even need TAR33 until 2021, even with the threat of a Writers Strike.
TAR32 could air anytime between May and the end of the year.
It would be pretty embarrassing for CBS to cancel TAR and use the Coronavirus as the excuse. They had plenty of reason to cancel the show when the ratings were terrible between 24-29. Then 30 came along in the best timeslot it had in years and 31 did just about as well as other CBS primetime shows are doing now. So there's actually less reason for CBS to cancel TAR now than the last couple of years.
Budget concerns will ultimately be what decides TAR's fate. And literally every other TAR in the world has shown that you can produce a solid show even with a smaller budget. So if they run a tight ship, get the sponsors and local incentives needed to keep costs down, maintain okay ratings which translate to good ad rates, then TAR remains a good benchwarmer for the network.
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Hoping that all of us devoted TAR FANS will give CBS, WRP, PRODUCTION. CREW, and CAST all of our love and support during this difficult time.
Until we have time to see what this means for TAR Season 33, RFF will be doing everything possible to support our Amazing Race Family.
For now, this means that our Discussions of the Race. The Route and Tasks, and MOST important our Beloved Contestants have all been moved to a safe place.
We will have to see how this unfolds...but as always, our first responsibility is to be sure that none of our Contestant reveals and discussions would interfere with a chance to resume the race at some point.
This event is heartbreaking for all of our TAR 33 Family, and RFF will do whatever we can to support our TAR FAMILY during this time.
Thank you all for understanding. I know all of you here love TAR with a passion, and will join us in fully supporting everyone involved with TAR 33.
Love you all!
Oh idk it worse than i thought before (https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/yoyo128.gif?w=150&h=150)
well i'll cherish S32 more than i cherish the other seasons, since it could be the last for TARUS and perhaps last of us the human race (https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/58.gif?w=560)
just in case iam not survive from this apocalypse au revoir everyone (https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/yoyo180.gif?w=150&h=150)
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Idk why anyone thinks it's getting cancelled. It's super cheap to make, has a devoted fanbase, and makes a really consistent ace in the hole as a replacement when something gets canned. If anything this is just indicative of why CBS is insistent on having a completed season to sit on at all times.
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Idk why anyone thinks it's getting cancelled. It's super cheap to make, has a devoted fanbase, and makes a really consistent ace in the hole as a replacement when something gets canned. If anything this is just indicative of why CBS is insistent on having a completed season to sit on at all times.
Isn't it the most expensive reality show to make, given the plane tickets and setting up before that?
But yes, it has a dedicated enough fanbase to ensure that TAR stands ready to take over the timeslot of any crappy underperforming CBS show.
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Idk why anyone thinks it's getting cancelled. It's super cheap to make, has a devoted fanbase, and makes a really consistent ace in the hole as a replacement when something gets canned. If anything this is just indicative of why CBS is insistent on having a completed season to sit on at all times.
Isn't it the most expensive reality show to make, given the plane tickets and setting up before that?
But yes, it has a dedicated enough fanbase to ensure that TAR stands ready to take over the timeslot of any crappy underperforming CBS show.
A one way ticket to London from the USA costs usually around £1000, with all crew and contestants that costs probably around £50,000. Thats one out of the many flights they'll take, add that to costs of renting places, hiring people to be in tasks, filming permits, paying employees, sequester that's gotta be so expensive.
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I only have been watching live since Season 26 however I have since almost every season. Is it just me, or is anyone else very scare. Do you guys think CBS will put off Amazing Race, then one day they will announce the show is cancelled because we all know Amazing Race is in the bottom tier of CBS shows in CBS' eyes. Anyone that has watched the show for over 10 years tell me if you think.
I don't think this will occur. Last season and 30 retained a good amount of viewers despite the ratings dropping over the course of the show after the HD transition. They just treat the scheduling for the show badly and shelve it like their archived holiday specials until they can fill in an early canceled sitcom's spot. I see Big Brother having more of a chance getting shut down and replaced by Love Island since they have a very similar scheduling format and people have been talking about the decline of the show since the public started ridiculing it for its uncontrollable ethnic and race-related controversies and optics, not to mention Julie is the former head of CBS' wife and she's insistent on the Moonves power stance. I believe the new executives will stop tolerating that show more than lose faith in TAR being a network staple.
TAR survived the decline of travel interest in the aftermath of 9/11. If I remember correctly from a previous discussion on here, TAR15 I believe filmed during the outbreak of the H1N1 swine flu. Once the virus is contained and treated, we're in the clear and hopefully ready for production whatever that may entail (same cast and return to normalcy, or a complete reset).
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I only have been watching live since Season 26 however I have since almost every season. Is it just me, or is anyone else very scare. Do you guys think CBS will put off Amazing Race, then one day they will announce the show is cancelled because we all know Amazing Race is in the bottom tier of CBS shows in CBS' eyes. Anyone that has watched the show for over 10 years tell me if you think.
I don't think this will occur. Last season and 30 retained a good amount of viewers despite the ratings dropping over the course of the show after the HD transition. They just treat the scheduling for the show badly and shelve it like their archived holiday specials until they can fill in an early canceled sitcom's spot. I see Big Brother having more of a chance getting shut down and replaced by Love Island since they have a very similar scheduling format and people have been talking about the decline of the show since the public started ridiculing it for its uncontrollable ethnic and race-related controversies and optics, not to mention Julie is the former head of CBS' wife and she's insistent on the Moonves power stance. I believe the new executives will stop tolerating that show more than lose faith in TAR being a network staple.
TAR survived the decline of travel interest in the aftermath of 9/11. If I remember correctly from a previous discussion on here, TAR15 I believe filmed during the outbreak of the H1N1 swine flu. Once the virus is contained and treated, we're in the clear and hopefully ready for production whatever that may entail (same cast and return to normalcy, or a complete reset).
Big Brother more than triples Love Island's ratings still
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I don’t imagine they even pay for plane tickets anymore, they have to have a crazy amount of miles. Even then plane tickets are small potatoes for what they’d be paying for actors and writers.
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I don’t imagine they even pay for plane tickets anymore, they have to have a crazy amount of miles. Even then plane tickets are small potatoes for what they’d be paying for actors and writers.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure TAR is cheaper than a scripted show but the most expensive CBS reality show
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I don’t imagine they even pay for plane tickets anymore, they have to have a crazy amount of miles. Even then plane tickets are small potatoes for what they’d be paying for actors and writers.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure TAR is cheaper than a scripted show but the most expensive CBS reality show
Plus they only do probably four long haul flights a season and one of those is at the end when they are down to three teams.
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Wishing nothing but the best for WRP. This season frankly looked amazing from the spoilers we did get, with one of the most diverse casts to ever hit a modern CBS Reality TV season.
Hoping that the world gets better and we can somehow resume the Race with the remaining teams at the point they got hiatused in.
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Is that the most media Tar has got..
Pretty sure it is in a long time.
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Probably since the Vietnam controversy.
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For the cast, it must be really tough now to be unable to talk about what has happened...i wonder if something else (not found by us) will leak in a matter of time...
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Probably since the Vietnam controversy.
Since Claire's watermelon launch probably. :lol3: The media sites have been churning and spitting out the indefinite suspension of the Race on some huge sites like E! News, Complex, New York Post, and Time. Not just dramatic political sites and Fox.
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Health Minister has confirmed the first case in Argentina. It's from a 43 years old man who was visiting the north of Italy and returned to Buenos Aires on Sunday morning. Mid day he started to develop symptoms and rushed to a clinic where he was isolated and tested for the virus, with a positive result.
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Do they make them sign pre & post race NDAs or one all encompassing one?
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Them cancelling makes sense...but Latin America and Africa have zero cases and i could see them do 4 legs...was tar 33 only for Europe.. Producers pliz let's...... Race :ghug: :carryon: :dick
Um, Argentina and Ecuador counts as Latin America. There's Egypt, Senegal, and Algeria in Africa too...
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Wait how many legs before they cancel it? (https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/yoyo128.gif?w=150&h=150)
they still can show it to us, and then we got cbs black screen like they did with that dan thing on survivor (https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/yoyo125.gif?w=150&h=150)
and then they can show us all kind of funny, goofy and secret scenes that should not make into final edit, for the rest of the seasons, that way we still can enjoy S33, also its appreciation for the cast and crews and reminder for how that damned virus disrupt our live (https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/97.gif?w=560)
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Wait how many legs before they cancel it? (https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/yoyo128.gif?w=150&h=150)
they still can show it to us, and then we got cbs black screen like they did with that dan thing on survivor (https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/yoyo125.gif?w=150&h=150)
and then they can show us all kind of funny, goofy and secret scenes that should not make into final edit, for the rest of the seasons, that way we still can enjoy S33, also its appreciation for the cast and crews and reminder for how that damned virus disrupt our live (https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/97.gif?w=560)
3 legs, and no, it wasn't cancelled, just suspended. Might as well have a domestic route, but I'm unsure as Washington (state) has a risk.
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At this time we just do NOT know.
IMO:
The FIRST thing is the safety and health of our racers, production, and crew.
The SECOND thing is the status of the coronavirus. Could it worsen? Disappear? We just do NOT know at this time so it is impossible to make decisions now.
Once more information is obtained, once the virus status stabilizes or does NOT.. . more educated decisions could be made.
So sure speculate away. But be aware that NO ONE knows what will happen at this time and I feel it is unlikely we will have any decisions before summer. At the earliest. JMO
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At this time we just do NOT know.
IMO:
The FIRST thing is the safety and health of our racers, production, and crew.
The SECOND thing is the status of the coronavirus. Could it worsen? Disappear? We just do NOT know at this time so it is impossible to make decisions now.
Once more information is obtained, once the virus status stabilizes or does NOT.. . more educated decisions could be made.
So sure speculate away. But be aware that NO ONE knows what will happen at this time and I feel it is unlikely we will have any decisions before summer. At the earliest. JMO
Do you think amazing race Canada will film ?
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At this time we just do NOT know.
IMO:
The FIRST thing is the safety and health of our racers, production, and crew.
The SECOND thing is the status of the coronavirus. Could it worsen? Disappear? We just do NOT know at this time so it is impossible to make decisions now.
Once more information is obtained, once the virus status stabilizes or does NOT.. . more educated decisions could be made.
So sure speculate away. But be aware that NO ONE knows what will happen at this time and I feel it is unlikely we will have any decisions before summer. At the earliest. JMO
Do you think amazing race Canada will film ?
I think it's too early to answer. The suspension of TAR33 due to Covid-19 is a warning for others internationals TAR. This is why we must wait before any TAR will be on production.
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I think we all need to wait and see. Things are still in the learning stage about this and no one fully knows what is coming.
But yes...if things worsen I think a hold on filming could be very likely.
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Hoping that all of us devoted TAR FANS will give CBS, WRP, PRODUCTION. CREW, and CAST all of our love and support during this difficult time.
Until we have time to see what this means for TAR Season 33, RFF will be doing everything possible to support our Amazing Race Family.
For now, this means that our Discussions of the Race. The Route and Tasks, and MOST important our Beloved Contestants have all been moved to a safe place.
We will have to see how this unfolds...but as always, our first responsibility is to be sure that none of our Contestant reveals and discussions would interfere with a chance to resume the race at some point.
This event is heartbreaking for all of our TAR 33 Family, and RFF will do whatever we can to support our TAR FAMILY during this time.
Thank you all for understanding. I know all of you here love TAR with a passion, and will join us in fully supporting everyone involved with TAR 33.
Love you all!
Does this mean any spoiler information discovered before the race was suspended, assuming there was some, has been hidden or removed in hopes of it not spoiling/preventing the hopeful continuation of TAR 33 in the future? That’s what I take it to mean, which makes sense, just trying to clarify for my own curiosity. Sorry if this comes across as a stupid question.
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Hoping that all of us devoted TAR FANS will give CBS, WRP, PRODUCTION. CREW, and CAST all of our love and support during this difficult time.
Until we have time to see what this means for TAR Season 33, RFF will be doing everything possible to support our Amazing Race Family.
For now, this means that our Discussions of the Race. The Route and Tasks, and MOST important our Beloved Contestants have all been moved to a safe place.
We will have to see how this unfolds...but as always, our first responsibility is to be sure that none of our Contestant reveals and discussions would interfere with a chance to resume the race at some point.
This event is heartbreaking for all of our TAR 33 Family, and RFF will do whatever we can to support our TAR FAMILY during this time.
Thank you all for understanding. I know all of you here love TAR with a passion, and will join us in fully supporting everyone involved with TAR 33.
Love you all!
Does this mean any spoiler information discovered before the race was suspended, assuming there was some, has been hidden or removed in hopes of it not spoiling/preventing the hopeful continuation of TAR 33 in the future? That’s what I take it to mean, which makes sense, just trying to clarify for my own curiosity. Sorry if this comes across as a stupid question.
There are NO "stupid" questions here. :kuss:
Yes. Sadly in order to protect the contestants, the route, and mostly just our beloved TAR's future we took the extraordinary step of removing what we had so far.
Its pretty much a continuation of our policy of not revealing any cast before they are actually underway with no social media access. Not revealing future race destinations until they are actually on location to avoid any possible interference. And not revealing the final outcome to avoid affecting the show.
This is a unique situation. None of us know what the outcome may be. So we are being careful. And especially careful to not chance risking any contestant's chances.
And for those of us who LOVE the "detective" work... and count the days until TAR is coming back...it is a horrible let down. Huge credit to the whole RFF team for supporting this.
But welcome anyway! Explore the previous season spoilers, check out the TAR game thread, and join in all the "not TAR" discussions.
FWIW, I have no doubt that TAR will be back...and when they are...so are we. :tup:
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Georgiapeach,
That makes perfect sense. Thank you for sharing your love for TAR.
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:welcome: Canada and Australia can never cancel filming Tar... They will neva..Canada is in Canada alone and Australia goes to few countries...its just another excuse for CBS to give Tar a hard time..There is no corona in Argentina..South America has few cases.. Africa has practically none...turkey has none,Those are six legs...hahaha...but
I love that CBS renewed tar for 33 ..wasnt expecting it
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Argentina has 8 cases of coronavirus, though. About Turkey, several people were infected with it after transiting thru Istanbul to their destination, but hardly any confirmed cases in Turkey.
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I still believe that people are too hysterical about the virus, but now iam go for it, since they close school for a month, you know what thats mean? thats a whole month of playstation fun time (https://cutekawaiiresources.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/yoyo168.gif?w=150&h=150)
Maybe just maybe, they finally get rid this stupid thing called school for good
i think this will get worse, i mean the hysterical, after that pompeo interview at cnbc, cdc will step up, airport will be tighten up, iam not surprise if S33 will cancelled and maybe we will not see TARUS for sometime
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The national authorities everywhere are trying to prevent transmission of the coronavirus and isolate cases. The problem is public health authorities havre not yet caught up to where he coronavirus has spread, and one of the few tools they have is to avoid having people gather in places. It only takes one person with mild or no visible symptoms in a crowd to expose them to the illness, and I still haven’t heard anything to suggest what the incubation period is from exposure to the first visible signs of symptoms. The other is there isn’t a clear method of treatment or a vaccine to use as treatment.
Simply because you don’t see people with symptoms yet doesn’t mean you won’t.
Go back 60 years and look at what had to be done to confront a polio pandemic in the 1950s, and it was Doctor Jonas Salk who successfully developed a vaccine. It took three or four years to have the vaccine widely available to administer. These days it all but considered eradicated. Smallpox was finally eradicated about two decades ago, and that took about 40 years. In other words, there is a general road map for these things, but because the disease varies each time, the specifics vary as well. This coronavirus has a higher capacity to be transmitted because it can manifests symptoms in a mild form, so people don’t realize it’s the coronavirus and act as carriers of the coronavirus.
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Guys...my patience for IGNORANT and RIDICULOUS posts about the coronavirus is getting thin.
If you are NOT educated about the virus I suggest you read up. This is serious business and needs ALL of us to be educated and prepared. Ridiculous posts will be deleted henceforth or MADE FUN OF.
So unless you have something helpful or intelligent to say...do not post your nonsense here.
HUGE Thank You to the Schnauzers for all the excellent info!
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Could they revert to an American-only route like the Family Edition? Or create a spin off series with slightly different rules and set only in USA?
I proposed an idea once of a cheap spinoff if they only wanted one full season per year:
- It is set up similar to Fear Factor where you have different contestants and a winner each episode.
- There could also be different themes each episode (eg newlyweds, families of 4, Teams of 3, seniors, models, celebrities, athletes, blind dating, strangers, families with Gaghan Family aged kids etc).
- Each episode is set in a different city, so episode 1 is around Los Angeles, Episode 2 is around New Orleans, Episode 3 is around Miami, episode 4 is around New York City etc Each episode has 4 teams and one winner.
- Starting line and finish line in same city, roughly 4 challenges in the episode (1 detour, 1 road block, 2 regular challenges). Teams drive themselves everywhere so navigation is a big thing or they can take local trains and buses. Challenges should also suit the theme, so an athletes episode would have very physical challenges, a blind date theme would probably best be in Las Vegas, a family with kids theme would probably best be in Orlando etc
- As spoilers are not a big concern, they could use bigger and bolder locations. So the Los Angeles leg could start at the Santa Monica Pier, ride a bike to Venice Beach, hike behind the letters of the Hollywood sign, challenge at the Hollywood walk of Fame or Disneyland. Even for a culture shock they could visit poorer neighbourhoods like Skid Row or one of those gang infested ghetto neighbourhoods. In the New York leg they could go out to The Statue of Liberty and assemble a giant Statue of Liberty puzzle underneath the real statue.
- They could also do a Ninja Warrior style format where they have heats where each winner moves onto the semi finals and then grand final. The grand final could be a longer 2 hour route so possibly Chicago-New Orleans (with challenges/pit stops in St Louis, Nashville or Memphis).
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Charity00, here’s the answer. No. At this point, since the temporary suspension there have been confirmed or presumed cases of the coronavirus in a majority of US states, including the west coast, most of the Great Plains/Midwest, NewYork and Florida. With some degree of states of emergency declarations in many areas. The virus continues to spread and the ability to test definitely fo the coronavirus remains limited. It is still unknown what the incubation period is for the coronavirus and it’s not clear how long the illness takes its course with or without treatment or of the symptoms.
In fact a sitting US Senator voluntarily self quarantined himself once word came out that there were two persons who attended a partisan political conference at which both the president and Vice President attended.
Under such circumstances with the lack of up to date information, I think even those competition shows are going to be hard pressed to go into production out of a sense of abundant caution.
I’m personally concerned about a pro swimming event being held literally across the street from me, and the potential of exposure given many elite swimmers participate, and three coronavirus cases were confirmed in a city not more than 100 miles from here yesterday. The key here right now is taking precautions to minimize the risk of transmission and exposure, and it’s going to get increasingly more difficult to do.
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With the upcoming The Amazing Race Australia season 5, which is scheduled to start filming this June, having a domestic Australia-only route; do we think there is any chance that The Amazing Race US season 33 resumes with a domestic all-United States route? Or at least like S8's Family Edition, an all North America route?
https://tvtonight.com.au/2020/03/amazing-race-australia-sticks-to-domestic-route.html
I think it could be possible. If they begin where they left off, they only have 9 more legs to film and if they have another double leg/same location leg one or two more times, that would only be 7 or 8 more new locations.
Obviously they would probably have to have some backup leg plans just in case. Plus obviously also avoid some states/cities with large amounts of COVID-19 cases, but there are still some states/cities/areas that are COVID-19 free. Plus they can always travel to more rural areas as well.
I just feel like, at this point, since TARAUS5 is doing it, a domestic route is the most probable solution to finish TARUS33 without it becoming a lost season that never makes it to air. Sure, it might not be everyones preference to have an all domestic route, but I'd rather have that then this cast/episodes already filmed never see the light of day.
Not to mention, with the WHO officially declaring the Coronavirus a Worldwide Pandemic earlier today, I don't see international travel for any Amazing Race franchise anytime soon.
Thoughts?
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I doubt the US will prove to be much safer. Online maps show only 8 or 9 states with no reported cases. With the limited amount of testing that has been done, I expect the epidemic is more widespread than what is being shown. Plus, if they start up again a month or two from now, the epidemic likely to be even worse by then. As much as I would like to see them film soon, I think we're going to have to wait until the epidemic winds down. Maybe in the late summer or fall. Maybe longer.
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Totally agree Plaid. Additionally with Survivor also now on hold we have to look at camera crews...many do both TAR and Survivor. Sadly I don't think w will be seeing 33 resume filming any time soon. And US vs The World makes no difference.
I'm actually quite surprised that TARaus filming is continuing... whether all in Aus or not.
Charity00, here’s the answer. No. At this point, since the temporary suspension there have been confirmed or presumed cases of the coronavirus in a majority of US states, including the west coast, most of the Great Plains/Midwest, NewYork and Florida. With some degree of states of emergency declarations in many areas. The virus continues to spread and the ability to test definitely fo the coronavirus remains limited. It is still unknown what the incubation period is for the coronavirus and it’s not clear how long the illness takes its course with or without treatment or of the symptoms.
In fact a sitting US Senator voluntarily self quarantined himself once word came out that there were two persons who attended a partisan political conference at which both the president and Vice President attended.
Under such circumstances with the lack of up to date information, I think even those competition shows are going to be hard pressed to go into production out of a sense of abundant caution.
I’m personally concerned about a pro swimming event being held literally across the street from me, and the potential of exposure given many elite swimmers participate, and three coronavirus cases were confirmed in a city not more than 100 miles from here yesterday. The key here right now is taking precautions to minimize the risk of transmission and exposure, and it’s going to get increasingly more difficult to do.
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In the last three days, it has gotten notably more serious day by day. Many major universities are shifting their classes online, and asking students to not return to campuses for the remainder of the academic semester or quarter. Increasingly, live audiences are being omitted at taping of game shows and talk shows in the US. More scripted productions are being suspended. The state department is now considering raising travel advisories to all of Europe to level 3, effectively barring all unnecessary travel to and from the continent with the US.
I did see a item that the physician who officially handles medical care for members of the US Congress briefed one of the House committees the other day and warned that at its peak the COVID19 coronavirus will mostly like infect between 75 to 150 million Americans, a statement that is consistent with other public health experts, but is being suppressed by federal authorities.
And no I wasn’t surprised by the delay in filming the next two seasons of Survivor. I’m not as optimistic as Jeff Probst about how long the delay will be; international travel will remain problematic, I suspect through the summer. (Just my honest opinion for now.
If you want to know more about how disruptive an global pandemic can be, look for information about the1918-1919 influenza pandemic.
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There's news flowing that the US is in the works of following Italy's footsteps and doing a sanctioned shutdown. And we all know the two-week self-quarantine procedures is in effect for travelers to China, which teams may have had to do for connection flights had they been still on the course. WRP made it out of this thunderstorm perfectly timed. Internet hugs all around and an extra set of hugs for WRP for keeping the racers and crew safe before the COVID-19 chaos escalated to this point. This will definitely be our biggest battle of the elements yet. I don't see this case slowing down until there is a true antipathogen developed from the samples they've been getting from the ill.
Also, US citizens who haven't thought about it, a reminder to start investing a couple days before the social isolation screen is lifted.
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Since earlier this afternoon, the NBA has suspended the rest of ite season after a player tested positive for COVID19 coronavirus. Tom Hanks reported that he and his wife have tested positive as well. Public schools systems in Florida have closed due to teachers testing positive as well, and the NCAA men’s basketball tournament will proceed without any spectators and with limited contact between players, coaches,and the media. The point here is that COVID19 is highly contagious.
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The past two weeks have only confirmed the fact that they absolutely made the right call.
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With the traditional 3 week filming schedule, season 33 would probably be wrapping production this weekend if it hadn't been pulled. Given the expansion of issues sine the call was made, I think we can all agree it was the right call! Very unfortunate though.
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With the traditional 3 week filming schedule, season 33 would probably be wrapping production this weekend if it hadn't been pulled. Given the expansion of issues sine the call was made, I think we can all agree it was the right call! Very unfortunate though.
Yes. As horrible as this is logistically, emotionally and financially, it was 100% the right thing to do for the safety of all involved in the race.
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With the traditional 3 week filming schedule, season 33 would probably be wrapping production this weekend if it hadn't been pulled. Given the expansion of issues sine the call was made, I think we can all agree it was the right call! Very unfortunate though.
Yes. As horrible as this is logistically, emotionally and financially, it was 100% the right thing to do for the safety of all involved in the race.
Let me add this to what Peach said. If you compare the global situation then with what it is now, it’s apparent that they never would have been able to finish filming as planned. Even a finish in LA would have been problematic. One thing they never would have been to control was the involvement of locals or visitors interacting with the Racers in different places around the globe since even if infected and were in the incubation period before symptoms appeared, locals wouldn’t have know and could transmit the coronavirus.
Take Tom Hanks and his wife traveling in Australia when he was diagnosed. Even if Australian authorities are correct that they were exposed to the coronavirus in the US before traveling, that still meant an unknown number were exposed to the coronavirus while they travelled. That’s the sort of thing that can’t be control, and one reason why a temporary suspension was critical.
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I don't recall if this has been posted but here is a link to an interesting Covid-19 map.
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 (https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6)
It is from Johns Hopkins University so no reason to doubt credibility except they awarded me two degrees. :-)
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I don't recall if this has been posted but here is a link to an interesting Covid-19 map.
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 (https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6)
It is from Johns Hopkins University so no reason to doubt credibility except they awarded me two degrees. :-)
That's the map I've been following. It's been good, though in the US as numbers climbed, they stopped posting the exact location of each case and just have info for each state. Two days ago I said there were 8 or 9 states with no cases. This morning it's just Idaho, Alabama and Alaska. Most likely there are cases there too, but with limited testing available, it's hard to confirm cases. We had one case in my town that was finally confirmed after about 10 days and another that was initially said to not be the virus, but now he's got the symptoms. It's unclear because the testing hasn't been finished yet. Just yesterday in my office, we had 2 people (out of about a dozen here) leave early as a precaution because they were feeling a little sick. It's probably not the virus but it's still alarming.
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The state of Ohio officials are estimating that there could be as many as 100,000 cases in the state all untested. At this time there are only 1000 test kits available. I have believed for a long time that there are carriers of the virus out there that don't know it and that is what will make things worse.
Ohio had revoked all tickets to the high school tournaments for various sports with limited spectators. They have now shut them all down and all K-12 schools will be closed for 3 weeks starting Mar 17. March Madness shut down also affects Ohio in 2 locations... play in games in Dayton and a regular round in Cleveland. Mid American Conference men's and women's basketball tournaments are no longer being held. These games and the March Madness are all played in the same venue where the Cleveland Cavaliers play and the Utah Jazz had played there in the past 10 days before these decisions were made.
This is a far reaching virus and I think it is the right decision for everything that is going on.
And you know it is bad when Disney closes down.
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Please use caution with the disease maps. Hackers are using them to spread malware: see here (https://thenextweb.com/security/2020/03/11/hackers-are-using-coronavirus-maps-to-infect-your-computer/). It's best to go directly to the source here (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/).
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Most major sporting events have been canceled.
https://redshopeweekly2016.wordpress.com/2020/03/13/nba-football-suspended-over-coronavirus/
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There's been talks of restricting travel with domestic U.S. flights too. This would certainly be horrific for workers in the aviation industry from air traffic controllers to flight attendants and those stuck in the already long lines at the busiest airports in the nation trying to simply get home. To put it a little more clear, I wouldn't be able to fly from Chicago to Indianapolis even if I wanted to despite it being a two-hour drive away. I can only see this getting worse. Hopefully not.
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Please use caution with the disease maps. Hackers are using them to spread malware: see here (https://thenextweb.com/security/2020/03/11/hackers-are-using-coronavirus-maps-to-infect-your-computer/). It's best to go directly to the source here (https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/).
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Guys I have also opened a general coronavirus thread in anything/everything. For general (non-TAR) related news lets switch to there please? Especially alerts and coping ideas. :tu
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From my FB page today..
<< (Question from a friend)
So the filming of TAR has been postponed until after the coronavirus danger has been abated? Am I understanding that right?
A very sensible move if so
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Elise Doganieri
Elise Doganieri yes, suspended until the curve is flat.
(today)
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When production on season 33 of The Amazing Race was announced to be shutdown, I genuinely at first thought that this would be the end of TAR33 and it becoming the never-to-be-seen lost-season. But after seeing how the situation has progressed and seeing all of these different other television productions shut down, I have higher hopes for them to resume where they left off once the curve finally flattens, as Elise stated.
I didn't think there were any other shows in the predicament of TAR33; where a reality competition/elimination based format TV show that was ALSO in the middle of filming gets shutdown. I thought that specific of a type of production would be too difficult to resume than, say, a scripted TV show. But it was recently just revealed that the second season of RuPaul's Drag Race UK was shutdown in the middle of production.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/11201719/rupauls-drag-race-uk-axed-second-series-coronavirus/
According to spoiler sources, they had just finished filming on episode 4 out of a 10 episode ordered season when the shutdown happened. This means at least 3 or 4 eliminations had occurred prior to the shutdown; compare this all to TAR33 having production shutdown at the end of filming episode 3 out of a presumptive 12 episode order season with at least 2 or 3 eliminations.
This is strikingly similar to the TAR33 shutdown and, to my knowledge, these are the only 2 reality competition/elimination based format TV shows to be in the middle of production of a season and shutdown due to the coronavirus. Like I said, when TAR33 was the only reality TV show for this to happen to, I thought it would be the end. But now that RPDRUK2 has also had this happen, plus just seeing the whole magnitude of this pandemic, I think the shutdown on TAR33 was ultimately a good call.
So in the end, I am cautiously optimistic that TAR33 will resume production starting with episode 4 where they left off when this pandemic is finally safely contained. The only question is, with looking at the way everything is going, when will that be?
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From my FB page today..
Elise Doganieri yes, suspended until the curve is flat.
(today)
39min
Well, that can certainly be a misleading/misinterpreted response lol
When the officials talk about flattening the curve, they mean having a more gradual increase in cases rather than the big spikes that may overwhelm the system (hospitals, etc) with such a large number of people infected.
Thus the social distancing, quarantine and lockdown measures in order to slow down the spread of the virus.
We can assume what Elise actually meant by her answer. But regardless, it will be a very long time before TAR33 can and should resume production. Even when the "curve is flat," as she puts it, I don't think that necessarily means it's safe or a good idea for TAR to get back running around the world.
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Celebrity race across the world postponed too ..a week ago.... I think if all the dust settles.. Tar33 ep 3 will be the most watched episode in CBS reality TV history... https://deadline.com/2020/03/celebrity-race-across-the-world-postponed-bbc-studio-lambert-1202878379/
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Thanks Avid! Will copy this over to the Race Across the world post as well. :(
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Celebrity race across the world postponed too ..a week ago.... I think if all the dust settles.. Tar33 ep 3 will be the most watched episode in CBS reality TV history... https://deadline.com/2020/03/celebrity-race-across-the-world-postponed-bbc-studio-lambert-1202878379/
As much as I want, I doubt it. TAR17 raised the viewership bar to another level.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4xxcLBU6ak
No one has posted this yet, but interesting interview with a production member of The Amazing Race season 33 on the shutdown/coronavirus. The TAR talk is mostly in the first five minutes of the video.
HIGHLIGHTS:
-He believes he may have contracted the coronavirus whilst out filming TAR33.
-Confirmed: 3 episodes had been finished filming
-Filming concluded in Glasgow, Scotland. The cast and crew were sequestered there for several days before finally flying back home to the United States.
-The route was NOT fully determined/set in stone by the time filming had started. There were multiple countries and routes possible.
-The next few legs were supposed to take place "somewhere cold in Northern Europe," somewhere in "Northern Italy" and "South America."
-The ENTIRETY of Asia was set to be skipped. No Asian countries were in contention for the season.
-CBS cancelled the season after the outbreak in Italy got worse, as there was a leg set to take place there.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4xxcLBU6ak
No one has posted this yet, but interesting interview with a production member of The Amazing Race season 33 on the shutdown/coronavirus. The TAR talk is mostly in the first five minutes of the video.
HIGHLIGHTS:
-He believes he may have contracted the coronavirus whilst out filming TAR33.
-Confirmed: 3 episodes had been finished filming
-Filming concluded in Glasgow, Scotland. The cast and crew were sequestered there for several days before finally flying back home to the United States.
-The route was NOT fully determined/set in stone by the time filming had started. There were multiple countries and routes possible.
-The next few legs were supposed to take place "somewhere cold in Northern Europe," somewhere in "Northern Italy" and "South America."
-The ENTIRETY of Asia was set to be skipped. No Asian countries were in contention for the season.
-CBS cancelled the season after the outbreak in Italy got worse, as there was a leg set to take place there.
I listened to the audio while working from my apartment and, wow, this is some immense insight. WRP made the perfect call to bail before the virus escalated into not being able to leave the country and before the rest of the crew and racers may have caught it. I feel for Ryan the DP dealing with the climate of the situation and how it affected his relationships and provisional lifestyle. I'm still curious what the route would have looked like if none of this was happening- whether we would have gotten an hourglass-shaped navigation or a deformed parallelogram.
I wonder if we're going to hear from more personnel or even the racers that were part of this lost season now that we know we probably and will likely not be getting show-quality footage from this attempt.
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It all depends. I think the original hope was to be able to go out again this fall and resume filming.
Sadly day by day that seems less likely.
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The thing is that in the original epicenter, Chinw and especially Wuhan, the peak has clearly passed, 4 months in. But China is retaining its border control as to those returning to China to prevent reintroduction os COVID19, while lifting restraints especially in. Wuhan. Meanwhile Japan isreporting a spike in new cases, and is introducing measures often being used elsewhere.
I read these in longer articles post at CNN.com, and that’s a good place to monitor.
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I want them to restart if they ever resume filming. Give the remaining teams a sort of advantage if they really need to make it fair. Every remaining team to get an Express Pass, and the supposedly eliminated teams to just go with the flow and see how far they can go without any advantage.
IDK. Seems logical to me (i know not logical to costs) to just restart, because who knows how long they will have to put this on hold.
Then again, 2-3 teams could have been eliminated and with 2-3 lesser teams to coordinate the filming schedule...?
IDK. My heart is with TAR and especially all the teams on this season.
And the teams on TAR 32 as well. :( JUST SHOW THAT SEASON ALREADY
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Celebrity race across the world postponed too ..a week ago.... I think if all the dust settles.. Tar33 ep 3 will be the most watched episode in CBS reality TV history... https://deadline.com/2020/03/celebrity-race-across-the-world-postponed-bbc-studio-lambert-1202878379/
As much as I want, I doubt it. TAR17 raised the viewership bar to another level.
TAR7 is the season with the highest average viewership. an average of 13.05 million viewers. Must have been the Romber effect.
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Tar33 ep 3 will be the most watched episode in CBS reality TV history...
It will be hard to top the season 2 premiere of Survivor. 45 million viewers.
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Celebrity race across the world postponed too ..a week ago.... I think if all the dust settles.. Tar33 ep 3 will be the most watched episode in CBS reality TV history... https://deadline.com/2020/03/celebrity-race-across-the-world-postponed-bbc-studio-lambert-1202878379/
As much as I want, I doubt it. TAR17 raised the viewership bar to another level.
TAR7 is the season with the highest average viewership. an average of 13.05 million viewers. Must have been the Romber effect.
Definitely. Season 17 though had a trending viral YouTube video + a YouTube team backing up the a bigger audience turnout.
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Phil Keoghan confirms on Twitter that the intention for TAR33 is to go back and resume filming where they left off with the same cast of racers once the Coronavirus calms down. :cheer:
https://twitter.com/PhilKeoghan/status/1249782008311504896
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Phil Keoghan confirms on Twitter that the intention for TAR33 is to go back and resume filming where they left off with the same cast of racers once the Coronavirus calms down. :cheer:
https://twitter.com/PhilKeoghan/status/1249782008311504896
I wonder if those racers will even be back. NDA classified info, but who knows what other stuff they have planned now after the production period is over.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4xxcLBU6ak
No one has posted this yet, but interesting interview with a production member of The Amazing Race season 33 on the shutdown/coronavirus. The TAR talk is mostly in the first five minutes of the video.
HIGHLIGHTS:
-He believes he may have contracted the coronavirus whilst out filming TAR33.
-Confirmed: 3 episodes had been finished filming
-Filming concluded in Glasgow, Scotland. The cast and crew were sequestered there for several days before finally flying back home to the United States.
-The route was NOT fully determined/set in stone by the time filming had started. There were multiple countries and routes possible.
-The next few legs were supposed to take place "somewhere cold in Northern Europe," somewhere in "Northern Italy" and "South America."
-The ENTIRETY of Asia was set to be skipped. No Asian countries were in contention for the season.
-CBS cancelled the season after the outbreak in Italy got worse, as there was a leg set to take place there.
3 Legs filmed in 1 Country? United Kingdom... Well, that's a first for the US Franchise if it is true. (excluding Family Edition)
Kinda not happy about it though.
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I'm sure it will be an interesting three legs even so. I remain hopeful that 33 will be able to resume filming in 2021. There are myriad possibilities of issues with cast and route, but I know they can cope!
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There are a lot of issues here. Some teams may have contractual work issues that would prevent them from just being able to set off again. We just do NOT know. Venues will have likely changed. Countries may not welcome film crews at the desired time.
Hopefully we can pick right up...but that may/may not be able to happen. I am sure WRP will have new contingency plans, just please don't jump to a lot of conclusions that everything will be the same without firm evidence.
#RealityCheck
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I'm sure it will be an interesting three legs even so. I remain hopeful that 33 will be able to resume filming in 2021. There are myriad possibilities of issues with cast and route, but I know they can cope!
I do hope that it’s interesting. I’m just not that fond of revisiting locations that were recently visited on the Race. It’s just a sort of minor preference but if the leg design and tasks are great I wouldn’t mind at all. I have a soft spot for United Kingdom. I just admire this country very much. I’m most especially excited of the Glasgow leg.
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If it does continue as they are saying I cannot see it happening for a long time - possibly not even to early next year. Many countries have closed there borders to all international travel and these restrictions are likely to remain in place for at least 6 months if not for the rest of the year.
I live in Australia and they have said even if they start loosening restrictions internally not to expect international travel for at least the rest of the year unless we manage to get a vaccine before hand which is very unlikely. We do not have many Covid cases here and most of those we do have are from Cruise ships and/or international travelers (especially from the US unfortunately).
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I was thinking that since a few countries have reopened up their filming industries, possibly a solution to finishing TAR 33 could be maybe restricting the Race to only one or two more countries for the rest of the season and just racing within those countries (similar to what TAR Canada does sometimes)? They could charter buses for the teams from city to city in order to limit their contact with others.
Even something like this I think we’re still quite a ways off from, but this seems like potentially an easier solution than a normal Race route at least for this next season.
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There are several issues you are overlooking, including that commercial airline travel, especially internationally, is still nonexistent as many countries have closed borders or restrictions to essential travel only. Many countries wil still be requiring COVID19 testing on arrival as well as mandatory self isolation.
It’s way too soon for this to be considered.
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Many countries now have a 14 day mandatory isolation upon entering. Many have significant numbers of Covid daily.
There are no easy answers.
I think the HOPE is we will be able to film.
What the REALITY is remains to be determined.
Hoping to refilm later this year also corresponds with the expectation of a significant increase in disease #'s this winter. And the fact is we are unlikely to have a vaccine in place this year.
So...we just don't know.
My background in critical care medicine makes me very concerned that our current management of this disease in the US is NOT going to contain it.
And NO reality show (even my beloved show) is worth risking lives.
So...I honestly think that living with the HOPE that we can make this work....along with the knowledge it may not work as hoped, is all we can do.
We CAN do our parts. Every single one of us can make a difference.
Maintain social distance. Wear a mask. Protect yourselves with all the things you have been hearing. Hand wash. Avoid crowds.
Going to a movie or a sporting event or a crowded beach or a university lecture hall is NOT worth going on a ventilator and possibly dying.
We HAVE to hold on to REALITY.
And meanwhile I will be hoping with every part of me that we can help make our beloved TAR race again.
:ghug:
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I really don't think we have a chance of filming TAR in ANY country until a vaccine is developed and COVID-19 has been completely eradicated. There's speculation that a vaccine could possibly be 'ready to go' by September, but I seriously doubt that. That can't be true right?
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CNN correspondent Will Ripley Who is currently based and lives with his husband in Hong Kong, has spent three and a half month in Tokyo on assignment. He was finally able to fly back from Tokyo to Hong Kong late this week. He’s been posting a documentary series of clips on his Instagram channel, which CNN complied on its website. Normally it takes about 5 hours. This took 23 hours and he had to go into immediate self quarantine at home for fourteen days.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/travel/2020/05/15/international-travel-coronavirus-hong-kong-ripley-orig-jk.cnn
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Those international travel restrictions are hopefully to be lifted and would have to resume when the (northern) summer comes as some airports are expected to reopen international travel with coping of social distancing guidelines.
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It seems like there is some talk of a few countries opening up travel to one another with precautionary measures, but unfortunately I don't think the US is in a position to negotiate any opening with other countries just yet. We'll hope the virus comes under control sooner rather than later.
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Yes - even if countries with low/no virus open travel between each other the US is not going to be one of those involved as it is one of the worst effected places in the world. It will be a very long time before international travel returns to normal and it will likely never be exactly as it was - I suspect more stringent screening when crossing borders will become the norm afterwards.
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Yes - even if countries with low/no virus open travel between each other the US is not going to be one of those involved as it is one of the worst effected places in the world. It will be a very long time before international travel returns to normal and it will likely never be exactly as it was - I suspect more stringent screening when crossing borders will become the norm afterwards.
I agree, travel will not be the same as before. I was watching a short documentary a few nights ago and the last time that a global event changed on how people travel was after the events of 9/11. We've had multiple body scanners, stringent checks with luggage both check-in and carry-on baggages. Several items can never be carried on to a flight, even passenger profiling. I am expecting that they'll require medical clearances, declarations of your health status, your vaccines, your recent sicknesses and multiple temperature screenings....
With the airline industry suffering massive losses, facing bankruptcy, restructuring or administration; the uncertainty of when this pandemic will end; the stigma of air travel. I'm thinking TAR won't be even be able to film in 2021.
I was talking to my family & friends and they all said the same thing. "We won't be travelling until 2022 or 2023."
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Well the sanctions of reopening the economy and the resumption of air travel that will hopefully in the second half of 2020. Many of TV productions will resume since the COVID-19 pandemic, with some had a choice to restart production.
JMO
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Yes - even if countries with low/no virus open travel between each other the US is not going to be one of those involved as it is one of the worst effected places in the world. It will be a very long time before international travel returns to normal and it will likely never be exactly as it was - I suspect more stringent screening when crossing borders will become the norm afterwards.
I agree, travel will not be the same as before. I was watching a short documentary a few nights ago and the last time that a global event changed on how people travel was after the events of 9/11. We've had multiple body scanners, stringent checks with luggage both check-in and carry-on baggages. Several items can never be carried on to a flight, even passenger profiling. I am expecting that they'll require medical clearances, declarations of your health status, your vaccines, your recent sicknesses and multiple temperature screenings....
With the airline industry suffering massive losses, facing bankruptcy, restructuring or administration; the uncertainty of when this pandemic will end; the stigma of air travel. I'm thinking TAR won't be even be able to film in 2021.
I was talking to my family & friends and they all said the same thing. "We won't be travelling until 2022 or 2023."
Everyone's probably going to have to register for CLEAR and upload medical documentation prior to the travel date in order to make sure everything goes smooth. :groan:
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I am expecting that they'll require medical clearances, declarations of your health status, your vaccines, your recent sicknesses and multiple temperature screenings....
Not if the Republicans stay in office. They don't seem to understand basic disease communicability. :groan:
TPTB for TAR will be careful I am sure. What I am hearing is they are preparing for late fall IN CASE it is possible to go. If things are still difficult they will look at early 2021. And so forth until we can safely go out again.
Survivor apparently believes they can go out possibly in July...because they can film in a much more controlled environment than TAR.
We'll see. I personally am by no means sure that countries will have opened borders, that it will be safe to fly, that 14 days isolation is enough, and that there will not be a resurgence of Covid-19 in Nov-Dec even in things improve by July.
LIVES and HEALTH are the first priority for us all. I'm sure CBS and WRP feel the same.
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I agree, travel will not be the same as before. I was watching a short documentary a few nights ago and the last time that a global event changed on how people travel was after the events of 9/11. We've had multiple body scanners, stringent checks with luggage both check-in and carry-on baggages. Several items can never be carried on to a flight, even passenger profiling. I am expecting that they'll require medical clearances, declarations of your health status, your vaccines, your recent sicknesses and multiple temperature screenings....
If it's any consolation, TAR has adapted very well to the post-9/11 world. It'd take some time to figure out how to make it work in the post-COVID world, but the business community/tourism industry will be pushing for some resumption of normality eventually; we'll just have to be patient until then! (I'm hopeful!)
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Yes - even if countries with low/no virus open travel between each other the US is not going to be one of those involved as it is one of the worst effected places in the world. It will be a very long time before international travel returns to normal and it will likely never be exactly as it was - I suspect more stringent screening when crossing borders will become the norm afterwards.
I agree, travel will not be the same as before. I was watching a short documentary a few nights ago and the last time that a global event changed on how people travel was after the events of 9/11. We've had multiple body scanners, stringent checks with luggage both check-in and carry-on baggages. Several items can never be carried on to a flight, even passenger profiling. I am expecting that they'll require medical clearances, declarations of your health status, your vaccines, your recent sicknesses and multiple temperature screenings....
With the airline industry suffering massive losses, facing bankruptcy, restructuring or administration; the uncertainty of when this pandemic will end; the stigma of air travel. I'm thinking TAR won't be even be able to film in 2021.
I was talking to my family & friends and they all said the same thing. "We won't be travelling until 2022 or 2023."
Everyone's probably going to have to register for CLEAR and upload medical documentation prior to the travel date in order to make sure everything goes smooth. :groan:
This would most probably be another tedious requirement in securing a visa for certain countries. :groan:
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I agree, travel will not be the same as before. I was watching a short documentary a few nights ago and the last time that a global event changed on how people travel was after the events of 9/11. We've had multiple body scanners, stringent checks with luggage both check-in and carry-on baggages. Several items can never be carried on to a flight, even passenger profiling. I am expecting that they'll require medical clearances, declarations of your health status, your vaccines, your recent sicknesses and multiple temperature screenings....
If it's any consolation, TAR has adapted very well to the post-9/11 world. It'd take some time to figure out how to make it work in the post-COVID world, but the business community/tourism industry will be pushing for some resumption of normality eventually; we'll just have to be patient until then! (I'm hopeful!)
This is what amazes me with how TAR is produced. 2001 was a really dark year with the 9/11 and it really put a stigma on the safety of air travel, basically travel in general. TAR adapted to its changes and we're now at 32 seasons. Like all of us, we want this pandemic to end very soon. I agree that when everything normalizes the business/tourism industry will be clamoring to restart. I hope TAR is one of those catalysts that will make travel good again. It was through TAR where my dreams of travelling arose, I'm grateful for this show and this forum.
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From Kelly Kahl at upfronts.
In terms of Survivor and The Amazing Race, we’ll get those into production as soon as we can safely get back into production. That’s going to be a little more complicated because we literally have to navigate some international waters.
If we get back into production [on The Amazing Race], you can trust that we have plotted out all of the safe and smart ways of doing it. Some countries are more affected than others and these producers are some of the best in the business and they will plot out a race that sticks to countries that are safe.
https://deadline.com/2020/05/cbs-navigates-tricky-international-waters-with-the-amazing-race-survivor-1202938568/
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Kelly Kahl's statement regarding The Amazing Race 33 cast:
"Production on Survivor and The Amazing Race was interrupted. What precautions are you taking there and with those casts? Has anyone from either show dropped out?"
"I don't believe anyone has dropped out. We are going to take all precautions that take all steps to protect the health and safety of our contestants — or in scripted shows, or actors — but also certainly the crew. Everyone's health and safety is going to be taken into consideration."
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/cbs-plots-business-as-usual-fall-schedule-now-1295186
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Edit: Redundant post because I only looked at Garrett's post and not the one above his, which already linked the same article i was linking.
The cynic could note that he says "IF we get back into production on TAR", rather than WHEN, but it does seem like they are committed to completing it, if they can do it safely. Here's hoping it will get completed!
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TAR 33 is firmly being planned to resume filming. The WHEN is the tricky bit...Nov perhaps?
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via FB:
Bertram van Munster: And my beloved Race will be back!!! Let you all know when!
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He also said:
It’s coming, I have been working hard:-))
Not sure what that means exactly as the comment wasn't replying to anyone specifically. Could be either TAR32 or TAR33. Though, I assume, most if not all the "work" on TAR32 is already completed right? Like... they've had almost 2 years, what else would they need to work on? lol
Hope the "working hard" is in reference in setting up/working out the logistics of TAR33.
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Am I the only one thinking that there is no chance TAR33 will restart filming, until there’s a vaccination against the virus? Of course I’d love to see TAR back out there filming in Late Summer/Early Fall, but I just don’t think this is realistic, because the ‘WHO’ believes the coronavirus is getting worse? :duno:
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Am I the only one thinking that there is no chance TAR33 will restart filming, until there’s a vaccination against the virus? Of course I’d love to see TAR back out there filming in Late Summer/Early Fall, but I just don’t think this is realistic, because the ‘WHO’ believes the coronavirus is getting worse? :duno:
You are not alone.
For one, many other countries don't want citizens of the USA to enter their country right now. Why would they allow a film crew and contestants that would be running around and not quarantining.
I just don't see filming happening anytime soon.
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GUYS> THE SPOILERS WERE REMOVED FOR GOOD REASON.
THIS IS A UNIQUE SITUATION.
DO NOT POST SPOILERS HERE.
Sorry but if we want to see 33 film again we MUST try to protect the cast and the show as much as we can.
I have moved the discussion to a safe place...hopefully we can revisit this one of these days.
For now, the cast/route/tasks that occurred in the aborted TAR 33 few episodes filmed are OFF LIMITS.
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Hoping that all of us devoted TAR FANS will give CBS, WRP, PRODUCTION. CREW, and CAST all of our love and support during this difficult time.
Until we have time to see what this means for TAR Season 33, RFF will be doing everything possible to support our Amazing Race Family.
For now, this means that our Discussions of the Race. The Route and Tasks, and MOST important our Beloved Contestants have all been moved to a safe place.
We will have to see how this unfolds...but as always, our first responsibility is to be sure that none of our Contestant reveals and discussions would interfere with a chance to resume the race at some point.
This event is heartbreaking for all of our TAR 33 Family, and RFF will do whatever we can to support our TAR FAMILY during this time.
Thank you all for understanding. I know all of you here love TAR with a passion, and will join us in fully supporting everyone involved with TAR 33.
Love you all!
Reminder: You are more than welcome to discuss the future of 33 AS IT IS AFFECTED BY Covid here.
Absolutely NO past or future 33 spoilers here UNTIL 33 resumes and we re-open the SPOILERS.
Feel free to message me here/on FB/ or on twitter 24/7 if there is new info.
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https://twitter.com/PhilKeoghan/status/1287836906827333632
This Spring??? What??? Either he means they're going to try and film TAR33 restarting in the Spring... or TAR32 is being pushed back to airing in the Spring??? That or he meant to say *Fall and just had a mess-up/typo???
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Unless he's currently back in NZ where it is currently winter?
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https://twitter.com/PhilKeoghan/status/1287836906827333632
This Spring??? What??? Either he means they're going to try and film TAR33 restarting in the Spring... or TAR32 is being pushed back to airing in the Spring??? That or he meant to say *Fall and just had a mess-up/typo???
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The tweet specifically states #TAR33, meaning Phil is hoping they can resume filming in the spring of 2021. Nothing to be worried about.
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https://twitter.com/PhilKeoghan/status/1287836906827333632
This Spring??? What??? Either he means they're going to try and film TAR33 restarting in the Spring... or TAR32 is being pushed back to airing in the Spring??? That or he meant to say *Fall and just had a mess-up/typo???
https://twitter.com/PhilKeoghan/status/1287975110352101377
I think it's a New Zealand/Southern Hemisphere thing too.
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I know there was some slight hope that TAR33 may resume filming between October-November of this year, but that's not looking very likely because Tough as Nails, which is hosted by Phil Keoghan, was just renewed for a season 2 today and they plan to film their season during the original rumored TAR33 resumed starting date.
According to the casting website:
If selected, could you be away from home (work and family) for roughly 6 weeks which includes 2 weeks of quarantine (Covid-19) plus 4 weeks of filming. The dates are subject to change but are set for Oct 6- Nov 21 as of today.
Source:
https://www.toughasnailscbscasting.com/faq
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Thanks!! I don't believe there is any hope until perhaps next spring....if we are REALLY lucky. Even early in the new year seems too soon. :'(
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Some places around the globe that were doing really well containing the coronavirus infection rate, are having problems again, two states in Australia, New Zealand, others. And other reviving hot spots may arise if students at all levels do happen to return physically to classrooms. That latter will strictly depend on having strictly enforced health safety protocols in place.
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Just a thought, because this pandemic has got me bored in levels I could not imagine. Haven't posted in the forum in a while.
They should have continued the trend of what they did with 2018 and filmed 2 seasons in 2019.
It is definitely a missed opportunity. We could have had 3 seasons in the can already (including S.32)
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Just a thought, because this pandemic has got me bored in levels I could not imagine. Haven't posted in the forum in a while.
They should have continued the trend of what they did with 2018 and filmed 2 seasons in 2019.
It is definitely a missed opportunity. We could have had 3 seasons in the can already (including S.32)
Too bad we didn't because CBS hates us :'(
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Just a thought, because this pandemic has got me bored in levels I could not imagine. Haven't posted in the forum in a while.
They should have continued the trend of what they did with 2018 and filmed 2 seasons in 2019.
It is definitely a missed opportunity. We could have had 3 seasons in the can already (including S.32)
Too bad we didn't because CBS hates us :'(
They are treating TAR like crap or it has never existed. TAR is like one of the heavyweights or the foundations of great reality tv. It's just a shame since 2016 (S.29), it takes ages just to air a season. Had they filmed 2 seasons last year and if they filmed the most recent one slightly earlier this year. I could only imagine, if that was the scenario, with other shows in limbo due to production issues with the pandemic, this would work well with TAR's viewership. I work in no media company, but yeah, that's what I think.
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The pandemic needs to be under enough control in enough countries including the US, so that safe international travel is possible. Australia is having problems just getting filming underway.for a season that remains domestic.
And if expectations are correct it will be spring at the earliest before things can begin to get enough back to normal. Dr Fauci an expert in pandemics at the US CDCP, is sayings it could be later next year before we start to see normalcy again. As far as the US is concerned, I could suggest who could be to blame, but it isn’t ViacomCBS, and suggesting who would be overtly political right now. So I will resist.
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There is a new appreciation for us now. They realize what a valuable asset we are to have on board.
My guess is that when we able to film again (hopefully in 2021) we will do two seasons back to back.
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There is a new appreciation for us now. They realize what a valuable asset we are to have on board.
My guess is that when we able to film again (hopefully in 2021) we will do two seasons back to back.
Hoping you're right! The most interesting development will be how they handle 33 if teams can't make it back. In a perfect world, all 8 or 9 current teams left will be able to join. Maybe if 1 team or so can't make it back, they will roll with what they have (maybe invite back the most recently eliminated). But if multiple teams can't make it back, they may have to scrap what they had.
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'A Very Serious Situation': WHO Says Coronavirus Cases Are Rising In Europe Again (NPR) The World Health Organization warned on Thursday that weekly coronavirus case numbers are rising in Europe at a higher rate than during the pandemic's peak in March. At a virtual news conference, Dr. Hans Kluge, regional director of WHO in Europe, warned, "We do have a very serious situation unfolding before us." "Weekly cases have exceeded those reported when the pandemic first peaked in Europe in March," he said. "Last week, the region's weekly tally exceeded 300,000 patients."
Plans for re-filming have been under discussion since 33 was halted. I think there has been cautious optimism that filming could safely resume in 2021.
But (*IMO*) the worldwide areas available to US citizens for filming are shrinking.
Both from the # of places that are either 1)unsafe or 2)unwelcoming to filming.
Covid cases are having another surge worldwide.
Even if racers flew charters or even first class, even if they only self drove...the world may not be safe enough until we have firm evidence of a successful vaccine.
Tragic times. :'(
JMO.
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I think WRP will wait until at least the Route they had planned is absolutely safe to resume 33.
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The problem is is that there is NO ROUTE in the world absolutely safe.
Yes they will have stringent precautions I am sure.
But there are no guarantees in the world just now...
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Well if anything the start line and finale leg are by far the most dangerous LOL!!!! IMO we are a longgggg ways away from seeing Amazing Race..... first the US needs to get it under control and then we can start looking at other countries but if the us of a dont get their act together i dont see TAR US filming for at least a year MINIMUM.
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Based on what I’m reading, we won’t see an approved vaccine until the first half of 2021 at the earlier. While the current administration still insists there will be a vaccine by Election Day (November 3rd) the Food and Drug Administration which has to approve the vaccine, ha put rules into place that makes it very unlikely any vaccine will have the necessary approved before the beginning of 2021. So far, the White House hasn’t even commented.
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One thing to consider though is even if the vaccine is approved, obviously TAR won't jump to the front of the line. Or anywhere close to it. Plus, other countries will be at varying levels of COVID transmission and vaccine deployment as well. (Especially now with second waves around the world.) Remember TAR involves lots of local crew and just locals in general who will work together and come in contact with the American cast and crew. Unlike the studio shows, TAR can't stay in production bubbles.
I would bet it will be at least a year before TAR gets back out into the world, at the earliest. I doubt there's appetite from CBS to have a US-only Race, even if it was safe enough. TAR Australia and Canada (of course) will have no problem staying within their borders for possible upcoming seasons. But TARUS is still a looong way into the future.
There is really no reason to force TAR back into production until the whole world, not just one country, gets COVID under control.
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TAR US already did The Family Edition (S8) which mainly was a road trip trough the USA. I think they could do a special edition to show Americans their own country which could also be a way to increase national tourism.
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I think what happens with TARaus wll be interesting. MANY areas in AUS are on strict isolation. Unless they are planning on using remote areas only and avoiding cities completely I still don't see how this will work. SO...TBD
I don't think a US race could possibly work.
1) Highly doubt TAR or the audience would want one
2) With individual states having different guidelines and with the COVID #'s rising it is NOT SAFE.
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I could see the US version being able to film one over the summer. The vaccine should be pretty readily available by then. They could always just stick to countries that have the health infrastructure that's needed to get the vaccine out by then. If they can do this, I imagine they’ll turn around and film another one next fall. Imo this whole situation kind of proves the point about how valuable an asset a completed non scripted show to sit on at all times can be.
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The latest word is that no vaccines in the US is likely to receive approval for distribution until late spring at earliest, and there won’t be enough for everyone for months after that. And there’s no way to know about other countries this far out. They’re going to need 7 billion does worldwide and there will be those who refuse to be vaccinated.
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I have heard more and more virologists say, that we just will have to live with the virus for the foreseeable future. Protect our weakest, but the rest should lead as normal a life as possible ... what that means for travel over the next 12 months ... your guess is as good as mine.
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Any news about when the production could resume?
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Whn the Covid #'s drop significantly and stop rising??
The short answer is No. No word.
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Would it be possible to test potential teams for presence of Covid antibodies and maybe run a race with people who have immunity and might not have to be concerned?
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There's also production. American AND local. Antibodies are not permanent, at least not for everyone and people have got sick multiple times.
This race isn't happening at least until there's a vaccine and world travel goes back to normal.
Covid is not a joke, and if for whatever reason you believe things are getting better, they are not. I just heard some startling news from Denmark today. They are culling their entire population of mink nationwide, about 17 million animals, because a mutated version of the virus has been detected in mink farms, as well as spreading to 12 people. This mutated version, if it were to spread, could make the vaccines they're developing now, ineffective.
So no, I don't think production has any plans to resume the race. We're all just waiting for the world to stabilize.
You can read more about this situation in Denmark here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-54818615
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They should just race rest of the legs in the US. Australia is sucessfully filming domestic season now... Survivor SA is filming domestic season, Australian Survivor planning it as well... US production is just lazy and kind of naive, are they waiting for miracle to happen? Film it in the US.
I know it's not that easy, but CBS is just losing their income with waiting for Fiji/world to open again.
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They should just race rest of the legs in the US. Australia is sucessfully filming domestic season now... Survivor SA is filming domestic season, Australian Survivor planning it as well... US production is just lazy and kind of naive, are they waiting for miracle to happen? Film it in the US.
I know it's not that easy, but CBS is just losing their income with waiting for Fiji/world to open again.
Maybe it's possible to film Survivor but Amazing Race no way. Besides, America is worst-hit compared to Australia.
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They should just race rest of the legs in the US. Australia is sucessfully filming domestic season now... Survivor SA is filming domestic season, Australian Survivor planning it as well... US production is just lazy and kind of naive, are they waiting for miracle to happen? Film it in the US.
I know it's not that easy, but CBS is just losing their income with waiting for Fiji/world to open again.
Not some shows chose to film domestically, the current season of The Bachelorette (Clare Crawley and Tayshia Adams) filmed in a single location as well as upcoming The Bachelor season (Matt James). The upcoming original British season of I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here is going to film in Wales rather than Australia due to travel restrictions.
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They should just race rest of the legs in the US. Australia is sucessfully filming domestic season now... Survivor SA is filming domestic season, Australian Survivor planning it as well... US production is just lazy and kind of naive, are they waiting for miracle to happen? Film it in the US.
I know it's not that easy, but CBS is just losing their income with waiting for Fiji/world to open again.
I'd rather just not have TAR than another domestic edition. The USA isn't exactly the safest place in the world for COVID19 anyway.
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TAR33 coming to race around just Australia?
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TAR33 coming to race around just Australia?
No, The Amazing Race Australia 5 is filming entirely in Australia.
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TAR33 coming to race around just Australia?
No, The Amazing Race Australia 5 is filming entirely in Australia.
Oh I know, I was just joking. But if CBS is really desperate enough, they legitimately could pull a TARAUS and have the remaining 9 legs for TAR33 be filmed there. lol
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Teams would need to wear masks in a local version and production would hate that! Plus the USA is the worst Covid country.
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Well now that there's news of a supposed vaccine rolling out in early 2021, maybe it does open us to finishing off the filming of this later in the year.
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Well now that there's news of a supposed vaccine rolling out in early 2021, maybe it does open us to finishing off the filming of this later in the year.
That speculation is a little premature. We don’t know yet how soon any vaccine candidate will reach approval for widespread global distribution, and how that will be specifically handled. The one vaccine candidate, would need about 15 billion doses to cover everyone on the planet, literally, and the old storage needed to transport and deliver it.
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Well we do know when, the projection at the moment is that the vaccines will start to be rolled out by the first quarter of 2021 assuming all goes to according to plan.
If you also expect everyone in the world to get vaccinated before TAR goes out again, good luck to you :lol3:
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I think it may have stirred a bit of HOPE in TARland too.... :gnome
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I miss TAR after TAR32 finishes airing
Either way, I feel TAR33 is going to be cancelled and I think TAR 34 will be on after the COVID weakens
Some countries are almost clear with the virus
NZ/Taiwan
Hopefully, we get to see TAR resume soon
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I miss TAR after TAR32 finishes airing
Either way, I feel TAR33 is going to be cancelled and I think TAR 34 will be on after the COVID weakens
Some countries are almost clear with the virus
NZ/Taiwan
Hopefully, we get to see TAR resume soon
The island nations are definitely going to be cured faster since it's easier for them to control it, but it's still pretty awful globally and domestically. Here in Illinois, it's in an extremely extremely extremely alarming condition. We have seemingly the most total cases discovered this week in the U.S. and in the world to date, most in my city, and our governor isn't proactively doing anything to lessen the number, just leaving it to local gov'ts. Ohio's governor is threatening to go back into lockdown. New York's governor just announced their non-essentials rollback and curfew because of their surge. Airports and train stations are still game for the spread.
I'll say I'm hopeful things get controlled, but it's just not looking promising. The U.S. definitely needs at bare minimum, best case scenario, 4 more years at an efficiency rate for everyone to be responsible in even acknowledging the virus. 8 if we're lucky to have a staggering majority on the same page. Definitely mandatory foolproof vaccinations before continuing employment like the meningitis shots for colleges.
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Well now that there's news of a supposed vaccine rolling out in early 2021, maybe it does open us to finishing off the filming of this later in the year.
I wonder what will happen with teams who will refuse to get vaccinated. I mean they can not force them... Will they be disqualified?
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I miss TAR after TAR32 finishes airing
Either way, I feel TAR33 is going to be cancelled and I think TAR 34 will be on after the COVID weakens
Some countries are almost clear with the virus
NZ/Taiwan
Hopefully, we get to see TAR resume soon
The island nations are definitely going to be cured faster since it's easier for them to control it
We may be the exception lol
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With things looking good on the vaccine front, I'm hoping they get to film one this maybe in the spring or probably summer. Though they'd probably have to stick to countries with the public health infrastructure to have it rolled out by then. Industrialized country only route?
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Well now that there's news of a supposed vaccine rolling out in early 2021, maybe it does open us to finishing off the filming of this later in the year.
I wonder what will happen with teams who will refuse to get vaccinated. I mean they can not force them... Will they be disqualified?
Being on the show is a choice, it's no different than someone not choosing to get the other shots they make them get for the show. They can easily find someone who will take it.
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Well now that there's news of a supposed vaccine rolling out in early 2021, maybe it does open us to finishing off the filming of this later in the year.
I wonder what will happen with teams who will refuse to get vaccinated. I mean they can not force them... Will they be disqualified?
Being on the show is a choice, it's no different than someone not choosing to get the other shots they make them get for the show. They can easily find someone who will take it.
My post was related to TAR33 cast because right now we are counting they will resume the season with the same cast at some point.
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Well now that there's news of a supposed vaccine rolling out in early 2021, maybe it does open us to finishing off the filming of this later in the year.
I wonder what will happen with teams who will refuse to get vaccinated. I mean they can not force them... Will they be disqualified?
Being on the show is a choice, it's no different than someone not choosing to get the other shots they make them get for the show. They can easily find someone who will take it.
My post was related to TAR33 cast because right now we are counting they will resume the season with the same cast at some point.
They only filmed two legs right? They can swap someone in if they have to.
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Ohio's governor is threatening to go back into lockdown.
I live in Ohio. I listened to his live talk to the people of the state last night and his press conference today (just ended). He specifically said he DOES NOT WANT TO DO ANOTHER LOCKDOWN. Stricter regulations, yes. Lockdowns, no.
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Ohio's governor is threatening to go back into lockdown.
I live in Ohio. I listened to his live talk to the people of the state last night and his press conference today (just ended). He specifically said he DOES NOT WANT TO DO ANOTHER LOCKDOWN. Stricter regulations, yes. Lockdowns, no.
Thanks for the info and update! :tup: Hoping the regulations will be a step forward to reducing the numbers in the state.
Stay safe and well.
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Ohio's governor is threatening to go back into lockdown.
I live in Ohio. I listened to his live talk to the people of the state last night and his press conference today (just ended). He specifically said he DOES NOT WANT TO DO ANOTHER LOCKDOWN. Stricter regulations, yes. Lockdowns, no.
Thanks for the info and update! :tup: Hoping the regulations will be a step forward to reducing the numbers in the state.
Stay safe and well.
I'm doing my part but many aren't and that's why the number keep rising, especially in my county. I just don't get people. They bitch and complain about the mask restrictions but say that we need to go into a lockdown. I would rather have the freedom to do things even if I have to wear a mask than to stay at home doing nothing because some official tells me I have to. Ohio has been on a nice path to recovery from the spring shutdown with unemployment rates around 8% from over 17% in April. Another lockdown would devastate the economy. I found some maps of unemployment rates in the state for past months. My county in February had a 3.6% rate. March was 4%. April was 19.5% (shutdown the whole month). Things started opening up again in May and the rate was down to 11.6%. By September it had dropped to 5.6%.
I know I'm retired and don't have to worry about going out to work but I really feel for those that do need to work to take care of their families. But I guess those that want the lockdown want the government to take care of them instead of doing it themselves. :idgit
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My biggest fear is that this season will never resume and CBS will cancel TAR after TAR32 due to poor ratings. :'(
I just want this season to resume and air. I will be in peace if this will get cancel then.
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More good news on the vaccine today, Moderna's is 95% effective. Looks like it'll be mass rolled out by April. Hopefully they'll be able to film a new season this summer.
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More good news on the vaccine today, Moderna's is 95% effective. Looks like it'll be mass rolled out by April. Hopefully they'll be able to film a new season this summer.
It won’t be that fast globally, which is what TAR will need to resume filming season 33.
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Even if it takes a while for TAR to return, at least it helps the human race
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Yeah so I guess the question is do we just need the racers and crew vaccinated? How much of the world's population vaccinated is good enough and safe enough to go out? How quickly can production pull together a route and tasks for the remaining 10 legs or so?
I'd guess regardless of whether the vaccine has rolled out globally that production would look towards filming in low case countries. Assuming production can secure entry to each country the best bet is probably something along the lines of South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, NZ, Aus and some Pacific islands. I'd expect a boatload of double legs as well.
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Yeah so I guess the question is do we just need the racers and crew vaccinated? How much of the world's population vaccinated is good enough and safe enough to go out? How quickly can production pull together a route and tasks for the remaining 10 legs or so?
I'd guess regardless of whether the vaccine has rolled out globally that production would look towards filming in low case countries. Assuming production can secure entry to each country the best bet is probably something along the lines of South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, NZ, Aus and some Pacific islands. I'd expect a boatload of double legs as well.
What I am wondering is that, if the vaccine will be a mandatory requirement moving forward once everything goes back to normal. Well, for all of us who travel.
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Yeah so I guess the question is do we just need the racers and crew vaccinated? How much of the world's population vaccinated is good enough and safe enough to go out? How quickly can production pull together a route and tasks for the remaining 10 legs or so?
I'd guess regardless of whether the vaccine has rolled out globally that production would look towards filming in low case countries. Assuming production can secure entry to each country the best bet is probably something along the lines of South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, NZ, Aus and some Pacific islands. I'd expect a boatload of double legs as well.
<<How quickly can production pull together a route and tasks for the remaining 10 legs or so?>>
Already done I think.But changes will of course happen.
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Yeah so I guess the question is do we just need the racers and crew vaccinated? How much of the world's population vaccinated is good enough and safe enough to go out? How quickly can production pull together a route and tasks for the remaining 10 legs or so?
I'd guess regardless of whether the vaccine has rolled out globally that production would look towards filming in low case countries. Assuming production can secure entry to each country the best bet is probably something along the lines of South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, NZ, Aus and some Pacific islands. I'd expect a boatload of double legs as well.
I am not really a fan of this. I like S.30, 31's and 32's format in terms of double legs.
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Yeah so I guess the question is do we just need the racers and crew vaccinated? How much of the world's population vaccinated is good enough and safe enough to go out?
I think only racers and crew have to be vaccinated. They can go to corona epicentrums then and they should be safe, I guess. The question now is... Would all of the racers agree to get vaccinated? They can not force them...
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Yeah so I guess the question is do we just need the racers and crew vaccinated? How much of the world's population vaccinated is good enough and safe enough to go out? How quickly can production pull together a route and tasks for the remaining 10 legs or so?
I'd guess regardless of whether the vaccine has rolled out globally that production would look towards filming in low case countries. Assuming production can secure entry to each country the best bet is probably something along the lines of South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, NZ, Aus and some Pacific islands. I'd expect a boatload of double legs as well.
I am not really a fan of this. I like S.30, 31's and 32's format in terms of double legs.
Well, there is a high chance this season will not resume at all and CBS will cancel TAR after TAR32, so honestly I don't get this bitching about double legs. Double legs are totally fine under these circumstances.
I would be completely ok if all 8/9 remaining legs would take place in US as well, I just want TAR33 to be finished.
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More good news on the vaccine today, Moderna's is 95% effective. Looks like it'll be mass rolled out by April. Hopefully they'll be able to film a new season this summer.
It won’t be that fast globally, which is what TAR will need to resume filming season 33.
If they do film, I’d think they’ll stick to richer countries that have the capacity to get to mass vaccination fast.
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Yeah so I guess the question is do we just need the racers and crew vaccinated? How much of the world's population vaccinated is good enough and safe enough to go out? How quickly can production pull together a route and tasks for the remaining 10 legs or so?
I'd guess regardless of whether the vaccine has rolled out globally that production would look towards filming in low case countries. Assuming production can secure entry to each country the best bet is probably something along the lines of South Korea, Taiwan, Vietnam, NZ, Aus and some Pacific islands. I'd expect a boatload of double legs as well.
Yeah, I’d expect an East Asia/Oceania heavy season if they’re able to film since they’ve generally faired a lot better than Western countries.
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Well, there is a high chance this season will not resume at all and CBS will cancel TAR after TAR32,
Could you source your info for this please? Because it is not matching what I am hearing.
If it is your own opinion, that's fine...just say so. Thanks!
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Well, there is a high chance this season will not resume at all and CBS will cancel TAR after TAR32,
Could you source your info for this please? Because it is not matching what I am hearing.
If it is your own opinion, that's fine...just say so. Thanks!
Yes, it's my own opinion based on poor ratings of TAR32 and current situation with COVID.
Just curious, what are you hearing? thanks
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Interesting note: One of the 33 couples has broken up recently. It’ll be interesting to see how that’s handled when they start shooting again (I’m hopeful) if they weren’t yet eliminated
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Yeah, I’d expect an East Asia/Oceania heavy season if they’re able to film since they’ve generally faired a lot better than Western countries.
Problem is those countries who have faired well all have strict quarantine on all international arrivals. I cannot see this changing until the vaccination is sufficiently well spread worldwide. When they do start opening up next year I suspect it will only be to countries who also have a low number of cases (which the US is definitely does not fit).
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Yeah, I’d expect an East Asia/Oceania heavy season if they’re able to film since they’ve generally faired a lot better than Western countries.
Problem is those countries who have faired well all have strict quarantine on all international arrivals. I cannot see this changing until the vaccination is sufficiently well spread worldwide. When they do start opening up next year I suspect it will only be to countries who also have a low number of cases (which the US is definitely does not fit).
Australia, NZ, Japan, Taiwan, and SK are all developed countries who have the capacity to get to mass vaccination by June (just using that as a placeholder because it's when they normally film the summer seasons). Australia is huge and they've still not hit a lo of places there and haven't been there in a while. They could do a no travel leg there. They haven't been to Taiwan or NZ either in a long time. Japan is also a country they go to a lot. They've never been out of the Seoul metro area in SK even though they've been there recently so they could go to somewhere like Busan. That's six legs right there.
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Yeah, I’d expect an East Asia/Oceania heavy season if they’re able to film since they’ve generally faired a lot better than Western countries.
Problem is those countries who have faired well all have strict quarantine on all international arrivals. I cannot see this changing until the vaccination is sufficiently well spread worldwide. When they do start opening up next year I suspect it will only be to countries who also have a low number of cases (which the US is definitely does not fit).
Australia, NZ, Japan, Taiwan, and SK are all developed countries who have the capacity to get to mass vaccination by June (just using that as a placeholder because it's when they normally film the summer seasons). Australia is huge and they've still not hit a lo of places there and haven't been there in a while. They could do a no travel leg there. They haven't been to Taiwan or NZ either in a long time. Japan is also a country they go to a lot. They've never been out of the Seoul metro area in SK even though they've been there recently so they could go to somewhere like Busan. That's six legs right there.
I think another thing to consider too is that these aren’t just regular travelers. It’s a tv show production, they could potentially get special clearance to enter the country as long as they’re tested and quarantined in between legs
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Yeah, I’d expect an East Asia/Oceania heavy season if they’re able to film since they’ve generally faired a lot better than Western countries.
Problem is those countries who have faired well all have strict quarantine on all international arrivals. I cannot see this changing until the vaccination is sufficiently well spread worldwide. When they do start opening up next year I suspect it will only be to countries who also have a low number of cases (which the US is definitely does not fit).
Australia, NZ, Japan, Taiwan, and SK are all developed countries who have the capacity to get to mass vaccination by June (just using that as a placeholder because it's when they normally film the summer seasons). Australia is huge and they've still not hit a lo of places there and haven't been there in a while. They could do a no travel leg there. They haven't been to Taiwan or NZ either in a long time. Japan is also a country they go to a lot. They've never been out of the Seoul metro area in SK even though they've been there recently so they could go to somewhere like Busan. That's six legs right there.
I think another thing to consider too is that these aren’t just regular travelers. It’s a tv show production, they could potentially get special clearance to enter the country as long as they’re tested and quarantined in between legs
My guess would be that sometime after the first of the year, there will some kind of agreement made between the G20 and some of the other developed countries (like NZ, Norway, and Switzerland) for quarantine free travel once you've hit a certain rate of vaccination. I could also see some of these countries who rely heavily on tourism for money cutting the show a deal to go there as long as everyone involved is vaccinated for the marketing.
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AUS and NZ have done a fantastic job nearly eradicating COvid within their borders. With VERY strict rules in place.
Vaccine or no...I see very little liklihood of them (or many other countries as well) allowing a US reality TV show in at this time. Next year? Maybe. Or maybe not. Depends on the Covid Status.
Impossible to predict right now. We are talking LIVES here, not entertainment. And I want another show as much as anyone. But am realistic as well.
Survivor would be more likely to be able to film somewhere IMO...they can be isolated pretty much and still film. Shocked they haven't done it yet on some US territory.
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AUS and NZ have done a fantastic job nearly eradicating COvid within their borders. With VERY strict rules in place.
Vaccine or no...I see very little liklihood of them (or many other countries as well) allowing a US reality TV show in at this time. Next year? Maybe. Or maybe not. Depends on the Covid Status.
Impossible to predict right now. We are talking LIVES here, not entertainment. And I want another show as much as anyone. But am realistic as well.
Survivor would be more likely to be able to film somewhere IMO...they can be isolated pretty much and still film. Shocked they haven't done it yet on some US territory.
Yeah, considering Survivor is as isolated a production as BB and Love Island (perhaps more so since they can find a remote island and crew will obviously be isolated there for weeks, regardless of covid), it's surprising that there is almost zero movement on possibly going back into production any time soon.
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AUS and NZ have done a fantastic job nearly eradicating COvid within their borders. With VERY strict rules in place.
Vaccine or no...I see very little liklihood of them (or many other countries as well) allowing a US reality TV show in at this time. Next year? Maybe. Or maybe not. Depends on the Covid Status.
Impossible to predict right now. We are talking LIVES here, not entertainment. And I want another show as much as anyone. But am realistic as well.
Survivor would be more likely to be able to film somewhere IMO...they can be isolated pretty much and still film. Shocked they haven't done it yet on some US territory.
Yeah, considering Survivor is as isolated a production as BB and Love Island (perhaps more so since they can find a remote island and crew will obviously be isolated there for weeks, regardless of covid), it's surprising that there is almost zero movement on possibly going back into production any time soon.
Survivor is isolated but not a bubble. In Fiji, the crew is comprised of around 400 Americans, Australians, and Fijians. The locals like boat drivers, set builders, and resort staff for prejury and Ponderosa go to work and then go home. BB crew didn't have to interact with the cast but the hired locals would. I would especially fear for the boat drivers as you have a lot of people in a cramped space for an hour or two.
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Yes, but it would be understood that they would have to create a bubble and work with a much smaller crew than normal. And they'd have to be creative and efficient in using the limited resources they have. It would be a scaled down production, even a year from now. And even with vaccines and less cases.
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And as lovely as Fiji has been, it could have been filmed anywhere IF they abandoned the stockpile of props and sets and decided sadly to not use Fiji and its trained crews and the Dream Teamers.
There are closed islands/resorts all over that could have been made to work. Disney itself was closed for awhile. LOL they could have used a farm somewhere for all that. Loads of film crews have been out of work. It would have been different and likely difficult but in my eyes ...possible.
But choices were made and now with new outbreaks in the US not many places are going to welcome us in. Just as other places in the world have become more possible and open it will be more difficult to have those places accept a large # of Americans. Tests or vaccines aside...at the moment it seems very difficult for Survivor.
But lets hope someone wiser than me has a plan. :tup: I would LOVE to be wrong.
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I can’t say I know too much about how survivor is produced but I could see CBS working out a deal with one of the middle income Asian countries that’s handled the outbreak well that is heavily reliant tourism money like Thailand or Vietnam to do the show if they promise to vaccinate the local crew as well. I’d think CBS has the logistical capacity to do something like that. I can’t imagine how much money shows like this pump into local economies, especially in middle income countries where the dollar goes really far.
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Interesting note: One of the 33 couples has broken up recently. It’ll be interesting to see how that’s handled when they start shooting again (I’m hopeful) if they weren’t yet eliminated
Just thought, do you think they will restart from the top and recast once the pandemic is over?
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Interesting note: One of the 33 couples has broken up recently. It’ll be interesting to see how that’s handled when they start shooting again (I’m hopeful) if they weren’t yet eliminated
Just thought, do you think they will restart from the top and recast once the pandemic is over?
No, I believe BVM confirmed in interview they are planning to resume with a original cast.
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Interesting note: One of the 33 couples has broken up recently. It’ll be interesting to see how that’s handled when they start shooting again (I’m hopeful) if they weren’t yet eliminated
Just thought, do you think they will restart from the top and recast once the pandemic is over?
No, I believe BVM confirmed in interview they are planning to resume with a original cast.
I guess the next question is whether or not they decide to tweak the route if that means starting earlier of wait and stick to the original one. They stopped in Sweden, right?
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Qantas announced today that they're going to require all international passengers to be vaccinated once it gets rolled out. I'd assume some other airlines aren't far behind.
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Yeah so I guess the question is do we just need the racers and crew vaccinated? How much of the world's population vaccinated is good enough and safe enough to go out?
I think only racers and crew have to be vaccinated. They can go to corona epicentrums then and they should be safe, I guess. The question now is... Would all of the racers agree to get vaccinated? They can not force them...
If the racers want to be on the show, they can absolutely force them. it's been shown before that the legal agreement that teams sign has them agree to take any shots or medications that the producers deem necessary to travel in certain countries. A covid vaccine will certainly be added to the list. If they resume 33 from where it left off and a team doesn't want the vaccine, they will just not invite them back, and either shorten the race, or maybe just add another NEL.
I think we're still a long ways off from TAR. That lengthy Bertram interview was the key - he didn't say they were waiting on finding a handful of countries that are safe to film in. He said they were waiting for the virus to be gone. While that may not be practical since it appears the virus could be with us forever, at the very least it will require vaccines to be readily available worldwide to really mitigate the risk, and have world travel back to some sense of normalcy.
You have to keep in mid that these seasons go through months of planning. Bertram/production go to every place beforehand to scout and get the production companies in line, long before the race happens there. Given the lengthy pre-production timeline, it's hard to plan a season right now because countries that have low virus numbers right now, have no guarantee of being low 3-6 months from now when they actually film. Countries that looked safe over this past summer are now spiking just like the US is...it's a mess, and is why I think TAR won't film anytime soon.
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IATA, the international group that represents airlines, is working on an app that will roll out after the first for the year that’s a “travel passport” to show you’ve been vaccinated. So far Qantas is the only big airline to announce they’re for sure going to use it but I’d think some of the others aren’t too far behind.
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IATA, the international group that represents airlines, is working on an app that will roll out after the first for the year that’s a “travel passport” to show you’ve been vaccinated. So far Qantas is the only big airline to announce they’re for sure going to use it but I’d think some of the others aren’t too far behind.
As much as I personally dislike CLEAR for its despicable cost, I feel like the U.S. will adopt having vaccination records checked this way and will expand to other countries when they get the green light. It would definitely be great for future production of TAR and those who travel very frequently. No-fuss automatic passport without even getting out your phone.
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IATA, the international group that represents airlines, is working on an app that will roll out after the first for the year that’s a “travel passport” to show you’ve been vaccinated. So far Qantas is the only big airline to announce they’re for sure going to use it but I’d think some of the others aren’t too far behind.
As much as I personally dislike CLEAR for its despicable cost, I feel like the U.S. will adopt having vaccination records checked this way and will expand to other countries when they get the green light. It would definitely be great for future production of TAR and those who travel very frequently. No-fuss automatic passport without even getting out your phone.
I wonder who the first big American airline will be to do something like this. Delta and United both are also testing programs where they've partnered with travel ministries to do quarantine free travel. I think United is with the UK and Delta Italy. You test a few days before you leave, test at the airport before you leave & when you get there, and then do one a few days after you land. You have to give the government your contact information. I saw a video that Wall Street Journal put on their YT channel that some of the developed countries in East Asia (I'd have to double check but I think it's Singapore, SK, Japan, and a couple of others) have been doing something similar for a couple of months now and they haven't had any issues, then again they've generally faired much better than Western countries as a whole.
That could be another option for the show.
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General Discussion on NDA's has been moved here:
https://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,24737.msg1290008.html#msg1290008
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This thread is for comments on Covid effects on TAR 33. :)x
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The EU approved the Pfizer vaccine this week. They're supposed to start rolling it out Monday. The US also bought an additional 100m doses from them.
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Another newly formed strains of covid was recently reported in UK. It is said to be more dangerous than the previous ones.
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The EU started its vaccination program today. The US its millionth vaccine this week too.
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ABC says they’re confident they’ll be able to film a bachelor in paradise season this summer. Hope this bodes well for some of the other travel related reality shows like TAR. Cyprus also announced that starting in Q2, they’re doing away with all travel restrictions if you prove you’ve been vaccinated. I’d assume other countries aren’t far behind, especially in the Europe travel zone.
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ABC says they’re confident they’ll be able to film a bachelor in paradise season this summer. Hope this bodes well for some of the other travel related reality shows like TAR. Cyprus also announced that starting in Q2, they’re doing away with all travel restrictions if you prove you’ve been vaccinated. I’d assume other countries aren’t far behind, especially in the Europe travel zone.
TAR is TOTALLY different than a show essentially filmed on a set for a good part.
Right now the UK, most of Europe, Aus. NZ remain on a STRICT lockdown. I have friends in Europe who can only go within a mile or two of their location and VERY strict even for food shopping. Filming would def be out.
USA restrictions are riduiculously less secure than most of the world.
I think we will see shows like Survivor and Batchelor WAY before we see a full blown International TAR.
Just my opinion.
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ABC says they’re confident they’ll be able to film a bachelor in paradise season this summer. Hope this bodes well for some of the other travel related reality shows like TAR. Cyprus also announced that starting in Q2, they’re doing away with all travel restrictions if you prove you’ve been vaccinated. I’d assume other countries aren’t far behind, especially in the Europe travel zone.
TAR is TOTALLY different than a show essentially filmed on a set for a good part.
Right now the UK, most of Europe, Aus. NZ remain on a STRICT lockdown. I have friends in Europe who can only go within a mile or two of their location and VERY strict even for food shopping. Filming would def be out.
USA restrictions are riduiculously less secure than most of the world.
I think we will see shows like Survivor and Batchelor WAY before we see a full blown International TAR.
Just my opinion.
I don’t disagree at all but it’s a start.
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Yup, Survivor is going back to Fiji to film S41 in April and S42 in June.
They only need to travel from point A to B. Not travel all over like TAR. That's the difference and why there's no way S33 resumes filming until Autumn at the earliest, in my opinion.
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Yup, Survivor is going back to Fiji to film S41 in April and S42 in June.
They only need to travel from point A to B. Not travel all over like TAR. That's the difference and why there's no way S33 resumes filming until Autumn at the earliest, in my opinion.
The EU is supposed to be done by September. I see that being a good tentative date. Hopefully Johnson and Johnson has good results for their final vaccine trial. They’re supposed to ask the FDA for emergency approval by the end of the month and it’s only one shot and can be stored in a regular refrigerator. Will hopefully be a game changer but it’s not gonna be out until March.
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The problem is that much of the world outside of North America and Europe won’t have completed vaccinations by then, from what I’m reading many of those areas won’t even have started by the end of the year unless drastic aid and support are provided.
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The problem is that much of the world outside of North America and Europe won’t have completed vaccinations by then, from what I’m reading many of those areas won’t even have started by the end of the year unless drastic aid and support are provided.
I’d expect if they decide to shoot this fall, they’ll stick to developed countries. Mid and low income countries are probably a no go until next year. I could also see CBS working out a deal with some of the ones who are rely heavily on tourism for money who’ve handled it well like Vietnam for example cause ultimately money talks. Something like prove everyone involved with the show is vaccinated, test the local crew, do stuff outside only, provide N95s, etc. I’m sure they’d love to have the cash inflow a big show brings and it’s marketing for next year.
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Some big airlines like American, Virgin, Singapore, and Lufthansa have begun testing out an app called "CommonPass" that allows people to show they've been vaccinated. Some countries are also starting to lift travel restrictions starting out in Q2 if you can prove you've had COVID or been vaccinated. Seems like two good baby steps for stuff like this to getting back out on the road.
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Tomorrow is the first anniversary of the production of TAR 33 that was about to start. But lasted almost a week when the coronavirus fears swept mostly the world as production had to be halted. Hoping a chance to "restart" production is much likely as Covid travel restrictions might be soon lifted by the second half of the year.
Time goes fast and vaccination is so as possible.
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Bittersweet Memory.
One year ago today the RFF team were following TAR 33 LIVE as they departed on a journey around the world with high hopes and great expectations.
Little did we know that one week later it would be shut down due to Covid.
Sending much love to Production, Cast, and Crew.
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Qantas pushed back its international travel restart from q3 to q4. Probably a sign the summer’s for sure off the table at this point.
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In the last 48 hours I have seen reports of two prepublication studies identifying two new emerging variants one in California and one in New York, where current vaccines may not be fully effective, be highly transmitted, and may cause more severe cases. These instances are not isolated given the emergence of variants that have raised similar concerns elsewhere.
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Now the Biden administration is saying that anyone who wants a vaccine should be able to get one by the end of May and we should be back to a semblance of normalcy by July. I think it’s too late for a summer season this year but it’s looking like the fall is a real possibility, especially now that the data is showing that the shot reduces transmission.
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For TAR it isn’t just the US, but global circumstances that will determine when production can resume.
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And some of the new variants out there are very concerning.
I am sure TAR is probably doing their best to get us up and running. Just not yet sure when we can safely go out.Still TBD
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I do not think that TAR33 will resume this year. 2022 seems more likely, imo.
It would mean 3 years (2019/20/21) without fully filmed season of TARUS.
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I do not think that TAR33 will resume this year. 2022 seems more likely, imo.
It would mean 3 years (2019/20/21) without fully filmed season of TARUS.
Airports have been since gradually reopened in mid-2020 with limited number of flights and travel restrictions will be lifted in most parts of the world. The COVID-19 vaccine process has been getting fully vaccinated to 75 million worldwide since it began on December 2020, I believe.
Just my opinion
From Peach:
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I do not think that TAR33 will resume this year. 2022 seems more likely, imo.
It would mean 3 years (2019/20/21) without fully filmed season of TARUS.
My guess would be they’ll have to decide if they want to shoot it this year if possible and change the route some (mostly stick to developed countries) or wait it out some more to stick to try to stick to it. I def don’t think they’ll go out next winter because I’d think they’ll have learned with 33 that February is a bad time to do it due to peak flu season (to be clear, I’m not comparing COVID and the seasonal flu, just saying that they’ve probably learned to not flirt with flu season). It would rip through the cast and would be enough to take someone off the course. So that’s my long winded way of saying I think it will be fall at the earliest but if not fall, probably some time next spring.
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I really think they should look at a domestic season... would be so much easier and give us more TAR
I as a foreigner would love to see some stuff about American cultrue and some different things to do in the US!!
Canada and Australia have both done fine with domestic seasons! I personally love that Canada stays in Canada because it keeps the show unique from the US!!
And plus a domestic season could be cheap to film compared to international. Yes covid would be costly, but I'm sure they would be able to get some more sponsors and you would maybe even see regions reaching out wanting to be featured/paying to be featured!!
I think it would be worth a try, and I dont count family edition as it was just a bland season and din't really go to a lot of great locations!!
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Considering how the US is handling COVID, and the fact that so many USA productions are filming outside the US, that is even more unlikely lol.
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I actually think a domestic route would be harder to plan. Just because there’s such discrepancies among the states’ restrictions and vaccinations. Some states are doing great on vaccination, some not. IMO it’d be much easier just stick to smaller, non federalized countries that are doing well on vaccines like Israel and Denmark (just examples) since you know what you’re getting, can get help from the travel ministries with centralized information, etc. Some of the European countries that are dependent on travel money like Greece, Portugal, and Spain are opening up to vaccinated people as soon as May 1st. I think Iceland has been since November or December.
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2 fair points, i just dont think there are enough countries to have a full good season of the Race, and travel would be much more tiring with protocols and less flights available.
And the US is rolling out vaccines fairly quickly and seems like restricitions are not strict AT ALL so i would think it is feasible.
And exactly what shows r leaving the US? Bachelor and Love Island both stayed in the US and i mean the Bachelor would be WAY easier to go international than the race!
I believe a domestic race is 100% the way to go, just makes more logical sense!!
And i think they should get a new cast and call that season 33 and then when things ease up bring back the og cast and send them on the planned race for season 34!
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Yeah but because they already got some episodes in the can, then maybe it is easier to bring back that cast, find 4-5 safe countries and do double legs (ala TARAustralia 4.)
And if the flight thing is difficult then could do like TARAUS5 and have teams start the leg at the airport, departing in the order they arrived. That would mean that even if the protocolt is longer for entering a country, like to take a 15 mins test, then they could just all relax, and leave after everybody is safely in the country.
I still don't think it will be before the end of the year tho... but if they could do countries that have high % of vaccinated people or with less case (Like Israel, United Arab Nations, maybe Australia and N-Z if they don't have to do the 2 weeks quarantine, even Canada would work)
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I really, really don’t see them doing a domestic route. I’d think they’ll find some small, developed countries to work with and just tweak the route to get this one in the can then go all in for season 34 next summer when life really is back to normal. There’s still a lot of Europe left to be explored and/or hasn’t been visited in a long time (like Ireland), Taiwan hasn’t been visited in forever, they’ve never really been out of the metro areas in Japan or South Korea, Chile is killing it on vaccination, and Australia and NZ should have their borders open by the fall and they haven’t been there in ages. They could even manage to get a new country in like Israel.
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Another thing to consider: many countries that r doing so well DO NOT want to let international travelers in as it could risk them bring COVID to the country and ruining everything. Like i know for a fact Canada would not let the Race travel there and I can't imagine Taiwan, NZ, or Australia would risk it either!
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Another thing to consider: many countries that r doing so well DO NOT want to let international travelers in as it could risk them bring COVID to the country and ruining everything. Like i know for a fact Canada would not let the Race travel there and I can't imagine Taiwan, NZ, or Australia would risk it either!
Sure that’s what’s happening now but 6-8 months from now, things will look very different. Last I read, Australia and NZ are going to re-asses their border situation in mid-June when they expect to have everyone vaccinated. They may not do it then but Qantas is supposed to be resuming regular international flights in October so sometime this year, they’re probably going to do it. Some travel ministries may even see letting them in to film some time this fall as advertising for next year.
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I think that by late this year or early next year we could see travel begin to be normalized between currently covid safe countries like Australia, New Zealand, Thailand, Singapore & South Korea, and countries that have very high vaccination rates like most European countries, Morocco, Israel, UAE, Seychelles, & Chile. But only time will tell and we can only hope for the best.
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It is kind of interesting that the EU is lagging behind on vaccinations. Ofc by the theoretical shoot in the fall, they should be there but that’s a big part of why I think the summer is gone at this point.
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Problem is that many of the "safer" countries wil not want racers/film crews/etc running around.
Also you have to look at quarantine restrictions. It would be cost prohibitive to have teams and crew need to quarantine in every country. Just take a look at some of our popular destinations...if they are SAFE to go to then there is quarantine. Often for a couple of weeks.
I'm a huge fan and dearly want us to go out. But I am also medical...and I want MORE for our TAR family to be safe.
If someone wants to research and start a country by country thread with
1) Covid requirements to enter from America
2) covid quarantine requirements
3) travel restrictions: planes/trains/buses/taxis
4)medical facilities
5) current covid #'s
then please do.
Might be helpful for us all to see what is ACTUALLY possible vs wishists.
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The US and UK hope to have a travel bubble by the summer due to both doing well on the vaccination. Ofc they already went there but it could be a good sign of more of these as the year goes on if things go well, especially as the EU is supposed to be really ramping up soon.
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The US and UK hope to have a travel bubble by the summer due to both doing well on the vaccination. Ofc they already went there but it could be a good sign of more of these as the year goes on if things go well, especially as the EU is supposed to be really ramping up soon.
That’s all speculation. Not an ounce of verifiable fact in it. The last great pandemic a century ago took three years and millions of lives, and the global population was under a billion. Now, COVID-19 is fifteen months, and three million lives (with major surges in India and Brazil, and some surging in the US in spite of a rapid rollout of vaccinations, with a global population of over 7 billion. In the US, however, a large percentage, especially in conservative states are resisting vaccination. Then you have the case of Michigan, where there’s been two surges, since emergency health declarations were struck down by state courts, and the aftereffects of spring break travelers is still unclear (too soon). Plus the B.1.1.7 variant and others are affecting younger people more.
So, to me, following the Spanish Flu H1N1 pandemic a century ago, we’re likely looking at two more years of this. Just because things may be better where you are does not mean it is better everywhere.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/25/world/europe/american-travel-to-europe.html
The EU will start letting vaccinated Americans in unconditionally as soon as they figure out a definitive plan for the vaccine verification system.
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Maybe....still TBD.
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Maybe....still TBD.
Let’s mention Greece. They’re planning to let tourists from the US and select other countries who have been fully vaccinated (and have proof of a negative three day antibody test) in and provided they observe all national and local COVID-19 restrictions. Clearly not a wide open door by any means, and they, too, like the EU haven’t said when.
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All I know is that each piece of news like this means one step closer towards TAR. The question is how many steps needed to figuratively walk?
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All I know is that each piece of news like this means one step closer towards TAR. The question is how many steps needed to figuratively walk?
Well for now, the only moderately sized country at “herd immunity” is Israel so it will be at least six months IMO. Still too many Qs about travel restrictions, vaccinated transmission, and variants IMO. Even then if they do decide to do they show in the next year, I’d imagine they’ll stick to only rich countries.
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This is a good site to review what we are facing:
https://borderless.safetywing.com/?fbclid=IwAR1fokHc1KlfXxL-Qm6AxutYhmSD1T5d4fZp3Y2mquQ3kH1EsBPpGEa_i2o
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Hey Peach- that border map is really interesting- I thought that vaccines would play a much bigger part in allowing entry
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Hey Peach- that border map is really interesting- I thought that vaccines would play a much bigger part in allowing entry
Vaccines are only a part of it. We have to look at current cases, definitely variants and local outbreaks and cases. Then how each area is restricting local events/travel/etc. Then we also have to look at entry restrictions. Who is opening borders or ...not. Are there entry isolation requirements? Where and what would racers be allowed to go and do? Its a very complex thing. If we thought that organizing TAR before was complex...we "ain't seen nothing yet"!!
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Do we have any info on whether the original TAR33 cast return to film after COVID ends or TAR33 gets scrapped?
Sidenote:
If they resume on filming TAR33, I can totally see a skip for Asia and Oceania
The cases in there are still rising (Typically India,Japan,Taiwan)
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Do we have any info on whether the original TAR33 cast return to film after COVID ends or TAR33 gets scrapped?
While they initially said that the Tar 33 cast would return I doubt that it will be the case. Once they start filming again I suspect they will start again rather than continue the S33 route. I suspect that the initial cast will be invited back if they wish but I doubt they will all return.
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Do we have any info on whether the original TAR33 cast return to film after COVID ends or TAR33 gets scrapped?
Sidenote:
If they resume on filming TAR33, I can totally see a skip for Asia and Oceania
The cases in there are still rising (Typically India,Japan,Taiwan)
Last week they said they hope to film by the end of the year and will as soon as a route opens up. The EU is the fist big block that’s gonna let vaccinated Americans in and that’s as soon as they can get a good verification system. I took that as them scrapping the original route and would wager they’ll just invite everyone back, recast for those who can’t, and start over.
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TPTB have made clear a number of times, their plan is to resume filming of 33 with the same teams and finishing that production. It’s still unclear what they specifically will need to do so. It’s not just any one factor related to the pandemic, there’s a whole bunch of them. Saying the end of the year is just a educated guess on their part. Late in 2022 might be as much an educated guess.
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What I understand:
33 to continue with original cast.
HOPE is to be able to go out by end of this year.
34/35 tentatively approved with hopes for filming in 2022.
ALL depending on covid and worldwide situation of course.
After all we have been thru in past 15 months, I think we all know that NOTHING is set in stone, NOTHING is promised.
BUT...there is TAR HOPE. :-*
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IMO these rich countries in Asia and Oceania are suffering from their own successes now. At some point, they’re gonna have to rip the bandaid off and start vaccinating faster. Especially now that other rich countries like the US & UK, Canada, and most of the EU have legitimately turned a corner. I think some people who live in places where there’s never been a big outbreak are more scared of the vaccine than the virus and the vaccine is the only way out of this. I think they’re really gonna start feeling the pressure by the fall after seeing people in peer nations be able to travel over the summer. Some of them may not be there by the time they hope to shoot late this year (if they can) but they should be there by the theoretical shoot of 34 next spring or summer.
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What I understand:
33 to continue with original cast.
HOPE is to be able to go out by end of this year.
34/35 tentatively approved with hopes for filming in 2022.
ALL depending on covid and worldwide situation of course.
After all we have been thru in past 15 months, I think we all know that NOTHING is set in stone, NOTHING is promised.
BUT...there is TAR HOPE. :-*
Any update on amazing race Canada ?
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IMO these rich countries in Asia and Oceania are suffering from their own successes now. At some point, they’re gonna have to rip the bandaid off and start vaccinating faster. Especially now that other rich countries like the US & UK, Canada, and most of the EU have legitimately turned a corner. I think some people who live in places where there’s never been a big outbreak are more scared of the vaccine than the virus and the vaccine is the only way out of this. I think they’re really gonna start feeling the pressure by the fall after seeing people in peer nations be able to travel over the summer. Some of them may not be there by the time they hope to shoot late this year (if they can) but they should be there by the theoretical shoot of 34 next spring or summer.
Cerealking I'm from Australia and its all good to say that be the truth is vaccination stock is an issue. It is increasingly difficult to source the vaccines as shipments are constantly redirected to 'countries that need them more' (which makes sense) making it difficult to speed up vaccination rates. It also doesn't help that the vaccine we have the most of is now not recommended for under 50's so we are having to wait for more shipments of Pfizer to arrive from Europe.
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IMO these rich countries in Asia and Oceania are suffering from their own successes now. At some point, they’re gonna have to rip the bandaid off and start vaccinating faster. Especially now that other rich countries like the US & UK, Canada, and most of the EU have legitimately turned a corner. I think some people who live in places where there’s never been a big outbreak are more scared of the vaccine than the virus and the vaccine is the only way out of this. I think they’re really gonna start feeling the pressure by the fall after seeing people in peer nations be able to travel over the summer. Some of them may not be there by the time they hope to shoot late this year (if they can) but they should be there by the theoretical shoot of 34 next spring or summer.
Cerealking I'm from Australia and its all good to say that be the truth is vaccination stock is an issue. It is increasingly difficult to source the vaccines as shipments are constantly redirected to 'countries that need them more' (which makes sense) making it difficult to speed up vaccination rates. It also doesn't help that the vaccine we have the most of is now not recommended for under 50's so we are having to wait for more shipments of Pfizer to arrive from Europe.
It’s totally true the supply is an issue at the moment but by the end of the year it’s not gonna be. If I understand correctly (they were talking about this on the Economist’s COVID podcast today), Australia’s issue was putting all the eggs in the AZ basket but I also read there’s supposed to be a huge delivery of Pfizer in September. Stock was the issue for a lot of rich countries early on but it seems with time, they’ve all been able to get where they need to be.
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Even if they are delivered in September (and most sources I've seen say late October) then its going to be well into 2022 until sufficient numbers are vaccinated.
I work in healthcare and while things could be done better and more efficiently our hands are tied at the moment. We cannot just 'ramp up vaccinations' easily. We also cannot just give AZ to everyone when it goes against health advise despite what some people say.
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Do we have any info on whether the original TAR33 cast return to film after COVID ends or TAR33 gets scrapped?
Production has said that they plan to resume TAR 33 where they left off and with the same cast, since no one has withdrawn. If a team chooses not to return I could see them asking the eliminated team if they want to come back so that they don’t have to film the London and Glasgow legs again.
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So, since they initially filmed early 2020. do we have any leaks on who are the teams rumored to be on 33???
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What I understand:
33 to continue with original cast.
HOPE is to be able to go out by end of this year.
34/35 tentatively approved with hopes for filming in 2022.
ALL depending on covid and worldwide situation of course.
After all we have been thru in past 15 months, I think we all know that NOTHING is set in stone, NOTHING is promised.
BUT...there is TAR HOPE. :-*
what are the teams rumoured to be on 33???
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Well technically we do but they have been taken off the website and kept secret to protect their identities
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Well technically we do but they have been taken off the website and kept secret to protect their identities
Can u dm me the teams? I'm curious to find out :( I promise i wont spread it online, im sure if they already got leaked here, it wont change anything
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Well technically we do but they have been taken off the website and kept secret to protect their identities
Can u dm me the teams? I'm curious to find out :( I promise i wont spread it online, im sure if they already got leaked here, it wont change anything
NO>
And please do NOT ask here again.
Any available team info was DELIBERATELY removed so that the teams themselves would be in no jeopardy.
Please respect that decision and DO NOT keep asking.
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As of today, vaccinated Americans can visited all EU member states. Huge step forward to getting the show off the ground IMO.
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Since the three legs already completed were in Europe, I tend we’ve a ways to go on that. Travelers are still going to have to prove they’ve been fully vaccinated, and of course there is rising concern about the Delta variant that’s spreading among people who aren’t vaccinated fully, and even fully vaccinated people have a one in ten chance of not been protected from that variant which was first discovered in India,
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Not to mention it also doesn't apply to all EU nations. There are many still, like Sweden, that have fairly complicated requirements for entry-- especially non-essential entry-- that rely on your country of origin (of which the United States is not exempt).
Fast tracking non-essential travel for the sake of a reality TV show is a pretty awful thing to do in countries that have significantly low vaccination rates and it may be all the lousier when teams show up in countries that have tougher restrictions only to find that a lot more of the exciting tasks on the race would need to be replaced with lower-effort ones in light of extended closures at popular landmark sites, continued lockdowns, and early curfews.
Eagerness is one thing; impatience is harmful.
TAR will be one of the last regularly-filmed TV shows to resume production. Properly accounting not only for teams but for the hundreds of logistical elements (foreign and local crew) is going to take ages to resume in light of the pandemic. If it's rushed and goes poorly, it only sets the whole thing back further, and continually stop-starting it will kill it.
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Since the three legs already completed were in Europe
I thought only 2 legs were completed and they were in the middle of filming leg 3 when production got suspended.
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So....I have reason to thnk that TAR 33 will resume. And hopefully by late this fall. BUT all of you are correct in that there is MUCH to consider and Covid and its variants remain a world wide issue. Things are changing day to day.
Trust in that WRP will be considering ALL of these issues and will keep our cast and crew safe. I expect that we will see numerous changes in trasport. Unlikely to be able to enter into random taxis, I thnk self drving is way more likely. WITH significant restrictions on asking locals for help/info/directions.
Just know that our beloved TAR producers will be covering ALL the bases to ensure everyone's safety.
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Since the three legs already completed were in Europe
I thought only 2 legs were completed and they were in the middle of filming leg 3 when production got suspended.
From the information we have, it seems like three legs were filmed and they were about to fly out to film the fourth
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So....I have reason to thnk that TAR 33 will resume. And hopefully by late this fall. BUT all of you are correct in that there is MUCH to consider and Covid and its variants remain a world wide issue. Things are changing day to day.
Trust in that WRP will be considering ALL of these issues and will keep our cast and crew safe. I expect that we will see numerous changes in trasport. Unlikely to be able to enter into random taxis, I thnk self drving is way more likely. WITH significant restrictions on asking locals for help/info/directions.
Just know that our beloved TAR producers will be covering ALL the bases to ensure everyone's safety.
While I do expect an increase in self driving, is there a possibility that some legs can have pre-selected drivers that have been tested? (Similar to the Colombia legs as a recent exampel)
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https://www.goldderby.com/feature/phil-keoghan-the-amazing-race-tough-as-nails-video-interview-1204310114
""Needless to say, “Race” is not the easiest show to pick back up again, but Keoghan shares that producers have come up with a plan to safely resume production. “CBS wants us back on the schedule. They want us to come up with a plan,” he states. “I think we have a plan that will work in this world that we live in. But the expectation from the network is that we get Season 33 finished and then we roll into more seasons again.”
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Canada is going to reopen its borders to fully vaccinated Americans on August 9th. Travelers must be able to show proof that they have been vaccinated at least 14 days prior to arrival and the accepted vaccines are Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, and Johnson & Johnson. Hopefully we’ll get TAR’s long awaited return to Canada.
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Canada is going to reopen its borders to fully vaccinated Americans on August 9th. Travelers must be able to show proof that they have been vaccinated at least 14 days prior to arrival and the accepted vaccines are Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, and Johnson & Johnson. Hopefully we’ll get TAR’s long awaited return to Canada.
I think Quebec would a really cool place for them to go, especially if they shoot in the fall.
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I would love a Vancouver, BC and Quebec City, QC visit!
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Canadian here-- while we are reopening the border to American tourists next month, there are still protocols that need to be followed for all international travellers and there are some MAJOR stipulations that are still barring other international travellers (especially those passing through specific countries like India for short periods of time). In addition to needing to be registered through an app, all entrants into the country still need to perform PCR tests and the like in advance of their departure (still seeing turnarounds on this in the States at around 12 hours through private firms) and there is still testing to be done on arrival.
On top of this, some of our provinces have only just reopened-- as in we weren't able to eat indoors until last week. There are still mask mandates; there are still closed locations. There are a lot of hurdles to overcome before there's any sort of normal, easy travel here.
Not to mention the heatwaves out west, the unprecedented forest fires in Manitoba and Ontario.
Running the risk for a country that people on this site have claimed is 'too similar to the U.S.' feels like a bad decision done out of impulse, especially as reports are coming in of Delta Variant upticks in California, Texas, and Floria and the return of the mask mandate in the former, and it would be a death knell to start the race again-- especially with the same cast-- only to need to shut down due to one or more unexpected cases with obvious travelling vectors.
Let's wait until it's safe.
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I wonder if TAR 33 will have a Family Edition-style North American route.
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I wonder if TAR 33 will have a Family Edition-style North American route.
They will delay it again before they do that.
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I said in 2020, it wouldn’t be until 2022 before filming could resume. With this massive outbreak in much of North America and Europe due to the Delta variant, and surges elsewhere due to other variants, I still don’t see a resumption of production for season 33 before next year.
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So now there is an even worse variant called Delta Plus (or Delta+ not sure), so I see it getting bad again (at least here in the US) if the government doesn't start having mask mandates again. I live in Alabama, and we are not doing good here. People are protesting masks still, and won't get vaccinated. I think most red states are like this which is sad because masks and the COVID vaccines shouldn't be political, and yet in this country it is.
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Due to what was mentioned above, I no longer see a season filming in 2021. A couple months ago I was more optimistic but things have gone south quickly. And no way there would be a family edition type of route considering how bad certain areas of the US are currently
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There is supposed to be TAR 20 year anniversary reunion for first october's weekend according to Jodi Wincheski on Instagram.
Do you guys think they are planning to restart TAR33 production at that event? Or is it my crazy idea/wishfull thinking? lol
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There is supposed to be TAR 20 year anniversary reunion for first october's weekend according to Jodi Wincheski on Instagram.
Do you guys think they are planning to restart TAR33 production at that event? Or is it my crazy idea/wishfull thinking? lol
NO> I have been helping with this as well.
It is a 20 year reunion of sorts for racers (depending on how many decide to travel). Production is in NO way involved and it has NOTHING to do with any TAR future races whatsoever.
Whether or not there may be a chance for fans to join in for part of the events is still TBD.
But again...NO RELATIONSHIP FOR FUTURE FILMING AT ALL.
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Due to what was mentioned above, I no longer see a season filming in 2021. A couple months ago I was more optimistic but things have gone south quickly. And no way there would be a family edition type of route considering how bad certain areas of the US are currently
Filming in 2021 has not yet been ruled out to the best of my knowledge. Still TBD I think but the current covid variants may play a role in that (JMO).
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A couple of months ago, I thought they could get the show filmed by the end of the year but now I’m not so sure. Outside the surge in cases in the US, I think they need to wait on some more countries in Asia to open up for tourists. Singapore (highly vaccinated) is testing a route with Germany but who knows how long the pilot program will last. You can travel to the Republic of Korea without quarantine if you’re vaccinated but the program isn’t for tourists. They may have contacts in the tourism ministry who can help them out but I could see it being a tall order. They almost always using one of the rich East Asian countries as jumping off points.
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The Pfizer vaccine being officially FDA approved is hopefully good news for TAR33
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The Pfizer vaccine being officially FDA approved is hopefully good news for TAR33
That approval only applies in the United States. Other countries and regions have their own agencies that approve vaccines, and that will more determinative of those countries as to resuming production.
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The Pfizer vaccine being officially FDA approved is hopefully good news for TAR33
That approval only applies in the United States. Other countries and regions have their own agencies that approve vaccines, and that will more determinative of those countries as to resuming production.
Though having the full approval from the US FDA, do expedite things for the rest of the world in terms of also getting the same approval from each country's specific agency, at least for the Pfizer shot specifically. But that is just one of the vaccices being used, and the hope that will help reduce the vaccination hesitancy.
However, worldwide vaccinations are being accomplished with vaccines from multiple manufactures. Hopefully this is start of more of them getting official approvals, that would allow for a better context for the possibility of filming to be resumed.
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The US is off the EU's green travel list now. Probably the death knell for the show filming in the fall.
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The US is off the EU's green travel list now. Probably the death knell for the show filming in the fall.
Perhaps. If they wanted to maintain the original route then it would certainly pose problems. However, if they are willing and able to adapt the route to visit European countries outside of the EU, then it might be possible.
Furthermore, there's no rule that says every season has to visit Europe.
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The US is off the EU's green travel list now. Probably the death knell for the show filming in the fall.
This is just a recommendation from the EU, and it's still up to individual states to set entry requirements. Some countries might not change their requirements, and others might require a negative test and proof of vaccination instead of one or the other. Still doesn't guarantee a fall filming as many countries are only just starting to get control over the delta variant.
https://www.nytimes.com/article/eu-us-travel-restrictions.html
If you are fully vaccinated with an E.U.-approved vaccine, which include those manufactured by Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson, the requirements you face entering a E.U. country should not change. Many member states have already been urging travelers to bring proof of vaccination and waiving quarantine requirements for those who can show proof of vaccination.
Countries could decide to add new restrictions, but it’s unclear if any will. Still, you’d be wise to have your Centers for Disease Control and Prevention vaccine record card handy no matter where you are headed.
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They already filmed 3 legs in EU. They can race in North & South America and maybe visit some of the non EU Europe countries.
Covid will be there like forever... We know that vaccination is not helping that much, see Israel. Idk if they are waiting for miracle to happen or what. They should either film this already or just cancel the entire franchise, tbh.
TARAU5 was filmed during pandemic and several Peking Express shows with international travel as well.
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If you had studied any history of the H1N1 global pandemic a century ago, you’d understand that this global pandemic was likely to last as long. The fact that there are now multiple vaccines isn’t enough, the seven plus billion people have to receive the vaccinations first. With differences in attitudes and behaviors concerning the coronavirus, getting that done was never going to be a quick affair. The emergence of the Delta variant which is far more contagious has not helped matters any. International travel is going to be a problem as many countries want their citizens and residents to avoid areas currently have substantial or high levels of infections, and the areas that are more risky or more safe changes almost by the day. That’s why international travel is essentially limited to vaccinated persons having a necessity to travel.
Once a point is reached where enough people have been vaccinated, the waves of cases will subside. But, and it’s a big but, nations aiming for zero cases without vaccinations are just fooling themselves.
Australia has its COVID-19 problems, even during the filming of their most recent season, where state borders were opened or closed at a moment’s notice. I don’t know how New Zealand is going to ultimately succeed with a COVID-19 approach the seeks no cases and no vaccinations unless they plan to keep its borders closed permanently.
The “Rush” franchises may have just been lucky. (Not knowing to which one you are referring.) I seriously doubt they’d be as lucky to film those seasons right now.
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If you had studied any history of the H1N1 global pandemic a century ago, you’d understand that this global pandemic was likely to last as long. The fact that there are now multiple vaccines isn’t enough, the seven plus billion people have to receive the vaccinations first. With differences in attitudes and behaviors concerning the coronavirus, getting that done was never going to be a quick affair. The emergence of the Delta variant which is far more contagious has not helped matters any. International travel is going to be a problem as many countries want their citizens and residents to avoid areas currently have substantial or high levels of infections, and the areas that are more risky or more safe changes almost by the day. That’s why international travel is essentially limited to vaccinated persons having a necessity to travel.
Once a point is reached where enough people have been vaccinated, the waves of cases will subside. But, and it’s a big but, nations aiming for zero cases without vaccinations are just fooling themselves.
Australia has its COVID-19 problems, even during the filming of their most recent season, where state borders were opened or closed at a moment’s notice. I don’t know how New Zealand is going to ultimately succeed with a COVID-19 approach the seeks no cases and no vaccinations unless they plan to keep its borders closed permanently.
The “Rush” franchises may have just been lucky. (Not knowing to which one you are referring.) I seriously doubt they’d be as lucky to film those seasons right now.
Just want to chime in on New Zealand, given I am living there. We are currently in the midst of a Delta outbreak, and although it is being dealt with through a lockdown, it is clear that vaccination is key to even a possibility of opening up to other countries. I believe the government made its first mistake by taking it so slow with vaccinating our population (relatively small) and opening to Australia before reaching 20% full vaccination country-wide. The government has managed to ship in a large quantity of Pfizer and I believe the plan is to vaccinate as many as possible by Christmas and early-2022. We currently have almost 50% with the first dose, and 26% fully vaccinated. The hope is to reach 75% full vaccination by early next year. Only then, do I believe some countries will look to open up to each other, given as theschnauzers says, no one country will ever fully vaccinate due to some being completely anti-vaccination.
What this means for Race, I am not sure. It does seem more likely that they will have to wait until early-to-mid 2022 to film, when vaccination levels will be much higher.
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Some country by country information compiled by CNN:
https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/us-international-travel-covid-19/index.html
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I find this source useful: https://bringbacktravel.com/
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Any news about TAR33 resuming production? Is 2021 still a possibility?
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Do we know if they're planning on continuing with the same cast they originally had, or if they will be starting over with a new one when they continue?
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Do we know if they're planning on continuing with the same cast they originally had, or if they will be starting over with a new one when they continue?
From Phil at ATX TV Festival.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ0iWztKBFA&t=1661s
There's no guarantee that when we reset that everybody who was there is going to be able to come back.
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They have been trying to make 2021 work but it seems to me that things are not looking good for 2021. But there is definitely hope for soon...my guess would be early 2022.
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https://deadline.com/2021/09/the-amazing-race-return-cbs-this-season-covid-production-delays-1234829832/
Deadline is reporting that TAR33 will begin filming but the article gives no information on when just that the season is in preproduction.
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https://deadline.com/2021/09/the-amazing-race-return-cbs-this-season-covid-production-delays-1234829832/
Deadline is reporting that TAR33 will begin filming but the article gives no information on when just that the season is in preproduction.
My reading of that article is that nothing in it is new. The only thing new is a green light for a new edition of Celebrity Big Brother, which I suspect is happening because of the pandemic delay in restarting production for TAR 33.
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Elisse just shared this article on her Instagram. I am taking it as a good sign.
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https://www.tvinsider.com/1012998/amazing-race-season-33-return-production-2021-2022 (https://www.tvinsider.com/1012998/amazing-race-season-33-return-production-2021-2022)
"It’s a good day for fans of the hit CBS competition series The Amazing Race, as it was announced that the show “will be back this season” after production was delayed due to the pandemic. The announcement was made by CBS Entertainment’s Senior Executive Vice President of Programming Thom Sherman during the network’s Television Critics Association press tour panel on September 9.
The series, which is celebrating its 20th anniversary this year, only filmed three episodes of the new season before production was shut down in February 2020. The previous season finished filming before the pandemic and premiered in October 2020. With things now back on track, Season 33 has officially begun pre-production."
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So what do you think when they start filming? October? November?
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So what do you think when they start filming? October? November?
If 33 is aiming for a post-Super Bowl February 2022 premiere, likely mid-November as usual.
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Read the article yesterday and I am super excited! This doesn't confirm of course that a new season will air by May 2022 however it is great knowing pre-production is back and that they are planning to film probably from Nov - Dec 2021.
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I’m really suprise.. happy tho!
I think an easier way for them to film would be to do like TARAustralia and keep teams at the airport and release them on a 5 mins break. This way, this eliminates the unknown factor of custums.
I guess we should start looking at which country are easy to access and are safe!
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I’m really suprise.. happy tho!
I think an easier way for them to film would be to do like TARAustralia and keep teams at the airport and release them on a 5 mins break. This way, this eliminates the unknown factor of custums.
I guess we should start looking at which country are easy to access and are safe!
They already release teams en masse after customs. I believe they started this in TAR31? There are several instances in TAR32 where teams are held (sometimes up to several hours!) and released from the airport at the same time, like where everyone's sprinting out of the Tobago or Bogotá airports in the same frame.
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Cautiously optimistic! Even if it's the most boring country with three legs each in countries we've visited a million times, I'm just happy to have the race back in the not-so-far future :conf:
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So how do we think this will all even work out?
Are they going to be required to wear masks 24/7 while out on the race course? Will they allow teams to take taxis? Will everything be self-drive? Will they be allowed to ask locals for directions? Will there be legs in cities? Will there be legs in crowded areas? Or will all legs be contained to secluded rural areas? Will there be Pit Stop greeters? Will teams have to be socially/physically distanced from each other? So many things might be different so I'm curious to see what we think might change.
Also what areas of the world do we think they could even go to? What countries are open, don't require large quarantines, and have a low amount of cases?
And how do we think this will all shape up from the view of restarting mid-way through? Are all of the remaining teams going to be able to come back? Will they bring back some of the already eliminated teams? Will they resume in the country they last left off at?
So many questions we obviously don't have answers to yet, but it's interesting to discuss
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I'm probably most eager to see if they decide to restart the Race from the Pit Stop at the end of Leg 3 and if they are going to continue with the original route they planned, as if the shutdown never ever occurred.
Or, will Season 33 completely start over from scratch, disregarding the already filmed three legs and film 12 new legs for the season and show the three legs they already filmed, as a part of a three part "Special Spin-Off Series" after the "new" TAR33 airs?
In regards to the teams themselves, will we see the entire cast come back again? Or, will the old cast be scrapped in favor of an entirely different cast? Would the previous TAR33 cast meet the 50% BIPOC requirement?
As Phil once said in the early seasons "these are the questions weighing most heavily, as we get ready to begin, The Amazing Race!"
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Would the previous TAR33 cast meet the 50% BIPOC requirement?
There were 9 afroamerican contestants, 3 asian contestants and 2 hispanic contestants so 14 BIPOC & only 8 not BIPOC in TAR33.
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Talking through the potentials :glassesf:
The 5th Australian season definitely set our precedent so we can ask ourselves in what way can their actions translate to an international scale - for the time being. The health and safety officers are a fantastic idea, but only if the personnel were already living in the countries teams are traveling to. It would be smarter to have the officers quarantined at their own homes and bring them on-site at the local checkpoints so they don't have to interact with more people than necessary.
Quarantining for teams may not hold the continuity we loved in every other previous season, but it's almost a cardinal rule now after flying abroad. And if we do have to do something similar like season-that-shall-not-be-named with one country every two legs to reduce the amount of time spent lodged or multiple double-length legs, so be it if it's the best safety precaution.
Just like Garrett said, another concern we have is what countries can be an option so we don't face another disappointing reroute into Family Edition 2.0. And what alternate countries or regions can be replacements at the last minute in the event disaster or logistical error strikes at the time of filming? There should already be an exhaustive interchangeable itinerary made in pre-production at this point if November is the target date for filming.
Our answers for what can be done within the route have been right under our noses. But I do not necessarily mean the total amount of legs has to be overdramatic like AUS5 where they produced a Big Brother-stretch of season. Many, many tasks and task types in previous seasons would do very well in a contained environment away from other teams and were thrilling to watch. The idea of more individualized travel (renting your own boat like TAR2's Rio premiere or a primary lack of physical contact like almost the entirety of TAR10's Ha Long Bay leg), relying on self-driving and the return of yelling for directions from the car, more Fast Forwards and Double Roadblocks, and outdoor activities have always been a staple of TAR, so now it's time to emphasize it.
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Which countries are most likely to be visited? considering covid rules/politics? I really have no clue...
Africa is out I guess? Australia & New Zealand have very strict rules so we can rule out that continent as well. No idea about asian countries... They already filmed 3 legs in Europe. My speculation is that this will be very South America heavy season.
I am also expecting lot of double legs in the same country like in TAR24.
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Rule out Argentina in South America. Borders are still closed, with hundreds of citizens still waiting around the world for an opening to return.
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Which countries are most likely to be visited? considering covid rules/politics? I really have no clue...
Africa is out I guess? Australia & New Zealand have very strict rules so we can rule out that continent as well. No idea about asian countries... They already filmed 3 legs in Europe. My speculation is that this will be very South America heavy season.
I am also expecting lot of double legs in the same country like in TAR24.
This site helps explains covid rules for each country.
https://www.kayak.com/travel-restrictions
Can't see Africa and Oceania. The only way I think we'll see Asia is Qatar (yes I'm aware of previous red tape, but the country has high vaccination, low transmission, and the government probably wants good press leading up to the 2022 World Cup). Ecuador, Colombia, and Peru seem like the only viable options for South America. While the EU downgraded the US, several countries are changing their requirements by banning unvaccinated people. So, that should not be a problem is TAR adds the covid vaccine to its list of travel vaccines. Poland, Denmark, and Belgium come to mind as likely.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2021/09/06/europe-travel-got-harder-americans/?sh=523ca0be4749
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Which countries are most likely to be visited? considering covid rules/politics? I really have no clue...
Africa is out I guess? Australia & New Zealand have very strict rules so we can rule out that continent as well. No idea about asian countries... They already filmed 3 legs in Europe. My speculation is that this will be very South America heavy season.
I am also expecting lot of double legs in the same country like in TAR24.
This site helps explains covid rules for each country.
https://www.kayak.com/travel-restrictions
Can't see Africa and Oceania. The only way I think we'll see Asia is Qatar (yes I'm aware of previous red tape, but the country has high vaccination, low transmission, and the government probably wants good press leading up to the 2022 World Cup). Ecuador, Colombia, and Peru seem like the only viable options for South America. While the EU downgraded the US, several countries are changing their requirements by banning unvaccinated people. So, that should not be a problem is TAR adds the covid vaccine to its list of travel vaccines. Poland, Denmark, and Belgium come to mind as likely.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2021/09/06/europe-travel-got-harder-americans/?sh=523ca0be4749
We shouldn't rule out those that are still in the orange, and those that are in the green doesn't mean it's a shoo-in. Dominican Republic is green and they have a wave of diphtheria going on right now. I see Uzbekistan being open on the list, and it could easily feed a direct flight from Tashkent into Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia or Bangkok, Thailand. From there, it could pull a TAR7 by flinging back into Africa and South America since I believe all the other major connection airports in Asia other than Doha, Abu Dhabi, and Dubai are in the reds. I noticed the African islands of Seychelles, Mauritius, and Reunion aren't even on the map Kayak put together so I did a bit of research and the two big ones are planning on reopening fully before the start of November. Seychelles is already open for U.S. travelers. Mauritius is going for herd immunity by October 1. Reunion is still closed.
Small islands like Cyprus and the Bahamas are likely if production wants to sneak in new countries to visit, and return visits to Jamaica and even Canada after "it's been 84 years" for penultimate are up in the air as well.
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One thing y’all are overlooking is the fact that the United States itself has been red listed due to the national level of cases here, even if the travelers are vaccinated. Countries are imposing quarantines and testing requirements even for fully vaccinated American travelers.
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Which countries are most likely to be visited? considering covid rules/politics? I really have no clue...
Africa is out I guess? Australia & New Zealand have very strict rules so we can rule out that continent as well. No idea about asian countries... They already filmed 3 legs in Europe. My speculation is that this will be very South America heavy season.
I am also expecting lot of double legs in the same country like in TAR24.
This site helps explains covid rules for each country.
https://www.kayak.com/travel-restrictions
Can't see Africa and Oceania. The only way I think we'll see Asia is Qatar (yes I'm aware of previous red tape, but the country has high vaccination, low transmission, and the government probably wants good press leading up to the 2022 World Cup). Ecuador, Colombia, and Peru seem like the only viable options for South America. While the EU downgraded the US, several countries are changing their requirements by banning unvaccinated people. So, that should not be a problem is TAR adds the covid vaccine to its list of travel vaccines. Poland, Denmark, and Belgium come to mind as likely.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/suzannerowankelleher/2021/09/06/europe-travel-got-harder-americans/?sh=523ca0be4749
We shouldn't rule out those that are still in the orange, and those that are in the green doesn't mean it's a shoo-in. Dominican Republic is green and they have a wave of diphtheria going on right now. I see Uzbekistan being open on the list, and it could easily feed a direct flight from Tashkent into Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia or Bangkok, Thailand. From there, it could pull a TAR7 by flinging back into Africa and South America since I believe all the other major connection airports in Asia other than Doha, Abu Dhabi, and Dubai are in the reds. I noticed the African islands of Seychelles, Mauritius, and Reunion aren't even on the map Kayak put together so I did a bit of research and the two big ones are planning on reopening fully before the start of November. Seychelles is already open for U.S. travelers. Mauritius is going for herd immunity by October 1. Reunion is still closed.
Small islands like Cyprus and the Bahamas are likely if production wants to sneak in new countries to visit, and return visits to Jamaica and even Canada after "it's been 84 years" for penultimate are up in the air as well.
Was Uzbekistan the country that Bertram said was hard to get visas for? I don't know when they tried as it could have been 15 years ago however I wonder if that could be on the list for potentials. I have been waiting for a Bahamas visit for a little bit now as a flight from Miami to Nassau would be great as those flights are cheap and a non-stop quick flight (which is a little less than an hour). Also, it could be a great switchback to due the Route Info Task of riding the Leap of Faith from S15. Then Cyprus is another location I have wanted them to go to as the photos I have seen from the island are beautiful and it could be a great history leg of the island. I think it could be around how Split and Dubrovnik, Croatia legs were.
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Do we know if teams were contacted yet?
I am afraid that not all remaining teams will be available for filming this time. Would they replaced them with already eliminated teams? 3 legs were filmed and 3 teams were eliminated.
Will there be mandatory 2 weeks quaranteene before filming?
I am hungry for some info, lol.
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damn...we need this to GET GOING asap....it's been 3 years since we chased teams around the globe :hfive:
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Do we know if teams were contacted yet?
I am afraid that not all remaining teams will be available for filming this time. Would they replaced them with already eliminated teams? 3 legs were filmed and 3 teams were eliminated.
Will there be mandatory 2 weeks quaranteene before
I would assume teams have already been contacted to give them enough time to request days off.
Slight nitpick but they have only completed 2 legs, they were in the middle of filming the third when production was suspended.
There will likely be a 2 week quarantine, where it will be is anybody’s guess.
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Slight nitpick but they have only completed 2 legs, they were in the middle of filming the third when production was suspended.
Are you sure about that? The initial reports at the time in February 2020, implied that, but later clarification from TPTB at WRP and CBS said three legs in two countries (England and Scotland) and they were about the leave Scotland when production was paused. Given that, in general, international travel is currently predicated on vaccination and negative COVID-19 test within a short time before arrival, it would seem that the season 33 teams were being taken care of by CBS under their contestant contract stipulations. Vaccinations for other diseases are part of the medical protocols prior to actual production, there’s no contractual reason that wouldn’t have been extended to COVID-19 once the vaccines became available in early 2021.
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Slight nitpick but they have only completed 2 legs, they were in the middle of filming the third when production was suspended.
Are you sure about that? The initial reports at the time in February 2020, implied that, but later clarification from TPTB at WRP and CBS said three legs in two countries (England and Scotland) and they were about the leave Scotland when production was paused. Given that, in general, international travel is currently predicated on vaccination and negative COVID-19 test within a short time before arrival, it would seem that the season 33 teams were being taken care of by CBS under their contestant contract stipulations. Vaccinations for other diseases are part of the medical protocols prior to actual production, there’s no contractual reason that wouldn’t have been extended to COVID-19 once the vaccines became available in early 2021.
The question on if they actually finished two legs or three legs I think still hasn't been 100% confirmed.
Every article from media outlets in February 2020 said the production was paused after three episodes were filmed.
https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/cbs-suspends-amazing-race-production-coronavirus-fears-1203519026/
"The 33rd season of the global unscripted competition series — which had not yet been announced — was only a couple of weeks into production. Three episodes had been filmed thus far, according to a source, and the contestants had visited England and Scotland prior to the suspension of the production."
The confusion comes because we were only able to ever track down two legs of spoilers, not a third. Though it's possible we may have just missed a third. But it also doesn't make much sense to have 3 whole legs in one area of the world (the United Kingdom). There hasn't been three "legs" (episodes) all in the same location in a row since TAR14 with China, so going from TAR32 where we had literally every leg take place in a different country, to TAR33 having 3 legs all in the same region would be odd, though it's possible the third leg may have been a last minute replacement leg.
Other theories are that, as H_E_L_L_O mentioned, they only completed two episodes and were in the middle of the third when they decided to shut down the production, which at this point, is what I think I'm leaning towards believing. If this is the case, I think likely what happened was all teams departed from the Pit Stop in Scotland and went to the airport to fly to their next destination, thus the leg technically did start. I think probably once all teams got to the airport, but before any of them flew to the next country, they decided to suspend the production. So it will be interesting to see how they edit this, if they tack it onto the end of episode 2 as a big cliffhanger, or if they just leave this for episode 3.
But it's worth pointing out that from the Starting Line to the day the suspension was announced was a total of 7-days. So to only have completed two legs a week in is also odd. Maybe they decided to wait out several days to monitor the COVID-19 situation in an extended Pit Stop before finally deciding to shut the production down? Who knows? :duno:
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Slight nitpick but they have only completed 2 legs, they were in the middle of filming the third when production was suspended.
Are you sure about that? The initial reports at the time in February 2020, implied that, but later clarification from TPTB at WRP and CBS said three legs in two countries (England and Scotland) and they were about the leave Scotland when production was paused. Given that, in general, international travel is currently predicated on vaccination and negative COVID-19 test within a short time before arrival, it would seem that the season 33 teams were being taken care of by CBS under their contestant contract stipulations. Vaccinations for other diseases are part of the medical protocols prior to actual production, there’s no contractual reason that wouldn’t have been extended to COVID-19 once the vaccines became available in early 2021.
The question on if they actually finished two legs or three legs I think still hasn't been 100% confirmed.
Every article from media outlets in February 2020 said the production was paused after three episodes were filmed.
https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/cbs-suspends-amazing-race-production-coronavirus-fears-1203519026/
"The 33rd season of the global unscripted competition series — which had not yet been announced — was only a couple of weeks into production. Three episodes had been filmed thus far, according to a source, and the contestants had visited England and Scotland prior to the suspension of the production."
The confusion comes because we were only able to ever track down two legs of spoilers, not a third. Though it's possible we may have just missed a third. But it also doesn't make much sense to have 3 whole legs in one area of the world (the United Kingdom). There hasn't been three "legs" (episodes) all in the same location in a row since TAR14 with China, so going from TAR32 where we had literally every leg take place in a different country, to TAR33 having 3 legs all in the same region would be odd, though it's possible the third leg may have been a last minute replacement leg.
Other theories are that, as H_E_L_L_O mentioned, they only completed two episodes and were in the middle of the third when they decided to shut down the production, which at this point, is what I think I'm leaning towards believing. If this is the case, I think likely what happened was all teams departed from the Pit Stop in Scotland and went to the airport to fly to their next destination, thus the leg technically did start. I think probably once all teams got to the airport, but before any of them flew to the next country, they decided to suspend the production. So it will be interesting to see how they edit this, if they tack it onto the end of episode 2 as a big cliffhanger, or if they just leave this for episode 3.
But it's worth pointing out that from the Starting Line to the day the suspension was announced was a total of 7-days. So to only have completed two legs a week in is also odd. Maybe they decided to wait out several days to monitor the COVID-19 situation in an extended Pit Stop before finally deciding to shut the production down? Who knows? :duno:
During the YouTube interview from last year, I believe Bertram said he was in the Arctic Circle in Sweden when he was on the phone with everybody talking about COVID. He didn't mention about teams being there yet so I wouldn't be surprised if they were all en route to the Arctic before they decided to suspend the season.
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Thanks for the great work everyone! Moving on to Season 33 the 2nd run now!