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AMAZING RACE 36 (originally 35) **LIVE SPOILERS** (Members Only) => AMAZING RACE RACE 35 (originally run as 36) => Topic started by: fossil-racer on June 06, 2023, 12:57:20 PM

Title: TAR 35 (formerly called 36): Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: fossil-racer on June 06, 2023, 12:57:20 PM
We will definitely need this!

As always...We are bound to need this!!  }:>

No posting until AFTER the start please! Sightings and Spoilers go to those threads.
Title: Re: TAR USA 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: sveped on June 06, 2023, 02:34:56 PM
Can't wait to bitching, moaning and squealing about this season  :woohoo:
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 08, 2023, 10:55:37 AM
There's now a non-zero chance that filming will overlap with either/both of TARAUS7: Celebrity Edition and the new Finnish spinoff.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Maanca on June 08, 2023, 11:03:27 AM
There's now a non-zero chance that filming will overlap with either/both of TARAUS7: Celebrity Edition and the new Finnish spinoff.

I can't wait for inevitable confusion if the two versions filmings get near each other. A lot of social media witnesses around the world wouldn't recognize if the people are American or Australian, they just see an Amazing Race.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Jjw26 on June 08, 2023, 11:14:34 AM
A lot of social media witnesses around the world wouldn't recognize if the people are American or Australian, they just see an Amazing Race.
Case in point, one person who saw the teams today thought it was an American show.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Avid on June 08, 2023, 02:58:58 PM
This is going to be messy..  Tar au and tar usa  :clap2:
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: utubefan on June 09, 2023, 06:14:16 PM
There's now a non-zero chance that filming will overlap with either/both of TARAUS7: Celebrity Edition and the new Finnish spinoff.

lol what if they filmed in the same location for a leg and did a beau/phil host swap :bump:
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 10, 2023, 08:41:16 AM
Even better would be a leg in Canada with Jon Montgomery a la Season 16.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Maanca on June 10, 2023, 08:51:00 AM
Even better would be a leg in Canada with Jon Montgomery a la Season 16.

Uh no. Jon and his fake enthusiasm can stay far, far away from anything US, thanks
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Avid on June 10, 2023, 09:37:53 AM
Hopefully I know somebody. All 35 seasons and I don't know anybody. I research the stars,sports stars,celebs that they bring. We are definitely on different "for you " pages with tar executives lol :lol: :conf: I didn't even know rex,rossi,claire and Derek, lolo
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 11, 2023, 10:47:27 AM
Even better would be a leg in Canada with Jon Montgomery a la Season 16.

Uh no. Jon and his fake enthusiasm can stay far, far away from anything US, thanks

Au contraire, his engagement has been more consistently genuine than Allan's.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: kyleisalive on June 11, 2023, 04:00:08 PM
Even better would be a leg in Canada with Jon Montgomery a la Season 16.

Uh no. Jon and his fake enthusiasm can stay far, far away from anything US, thanks

Au contraire, his engagement has been more consistently genuine than Allan's.

It's always surprising to see that people don't like Jon partly since the same people generally don't like Beau either.  Besides Phil, I'm not sure there's a host that people like on these forums, and the same people probably don't remember back in the early 2000s when Phil still really hadn't come into his own on the show.

I feel like if people complain enough about that and there's an actual host swap, then it'll just be the same issue with new hosts not really getting the vibe until much later.  When Scott Tweedie showed up for a few episodes in AUS6, he came across like a nervous kid with no real sense of comfort with the role (which isn't much of a fault since he hopped into it last minute and was new to the role), but some acted like he was the coming of TAR Jesus.  This after people derided the season as well.  It's baffling.

Oh well.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Brannockdevice on June 12, 2023, 02:03:42 PM
I for one would love a first leg in Quebec City with Jon as the greater. I can picture him trying to do Phil’s eyebrow raise 😂
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 12, 2023, 02:28:11 PM
^

Moi aussi / seconded !
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Parovic on June 13, 2023, 10:36:01 PM
Just a wild spec
I really don’t think they will go to the same place they have visited in 33,34,35
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Caelestor on June 14, 2023, 07:53:05 AM
Don't think we see South America this season, but I am anticipating a "traditional" race through Australia, Asia, Africa, and Europe.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Parovic on June 14, 2023, 08:01:22 AM
A lot of flights departed last night
You have east coast,Korea,Pacific,Mexico

Tbh I would bank on a Korea first leg
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: I ♥ TAR on June 14, 2023, 08:11:33 AM
Can someone who know pls share how many teams were seen and what is gender split? I just can't wait...
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Maanca on June 14, 2023, 08:12:27 AM
I'm sure after 33/34, Bertram and Elise (and us, lol) would like to get away from Europe. So a westward route is likely.

At least Israel's done, so we won't have three races filming at once, but Australia is still out there and early into their race to muddle up the social media sightings :P
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: angelbaby09 on June 14, 2023, 08:19:38 AM
i wonder how many cast we have this season? 13? or they will be back normal 11? i also hope utun/yield is back so that there will be some drama to make the show more interesting
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Jjw26 on June 14, 2023, 08:22:20 AM
i wonder how many cast we have this season? 13? or they will be back normal 11?
13
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Parovic on June 14, 2023, 08:42:20 AM
i wonder how many cast we have this season? 13? or they will be back normal 11?
13
Then we will have Megaleg and no non-elims?
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: I ♥ TAR on June 14, 2023, 08:42:31 AM
i wonder how many cast we have this season? 13? or they will be back normal 11?
13

Thanks. I hope there is at least 4 FF teams. (But my guess is there will be only 3.)
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on June 14, 2023, 08:44:53 AM
I hope Production put more thought into designing the legs and tasks this season to hopefully include at least 4 per leg if this season ends up getting 90-minute episodes!
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Maanca on June 14, 2023, 08:49:23 AM
Is 13 teams going to be their norm now?

I'm good with that! It'll cut the NELs per season down to one. A lot less predictable when it's coming.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on June 14, 2023, 08:52:49 AM
Are there even going to be NEL's? We still don't know if TAR35 was just 11 legs or we missed a 12th leg somewhere.

Is it possible 13 teams, no NEL's at all, and 11 legs is what they're doing? Because 13 teams is the exact number they need for no NELs and 11 episodes.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: ptfife on June 14, 2023, 08:53:20 AM
i wonder how many cast we have this season? 13? or they will be back normal 11?
13

Thanks. I hope there is at least 4 FF teams. (But my guess is there will be only 3.)

the teams are posted in this main 36 forum. scroll down past the pinned threads
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Maanca on June 14, 2023, 08:56:13 AM
Are there even going to be NEL's? We still don't know if TAR35 was just 11 legs or we missed a 12th leg somewhere.

Is it possible 13 teams, no NEL's at all, and 11 legs is what they're doing? Because 13 teams is the exact number they need for no NELs and 11 episodes.

As for 35, we may know soon enough when CBS starts to release the official press. I could see them using an advertising hook like "For the first time, there are NO Non-Elimination legs! We mean it this time!"  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: I ♥ TAR on June 14, 2023, 09:01:41 AM
i wonder how many cast we have this season? 13? or they will be back normal 11?
13

Thanks. I hope there is at least 4 FF teams. (But my guess is there will be only 3.)

the teams are posted in this main 36 forum. scroll down past the pinned threads

Thanks, that thread is not showing me photo from some reason but I found teams posted at Instagram. So there are 4 FF teams but of course they had to cast 5 MM teams then, lol.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Amazing01 on June 14, 2023, 09:02:29 AM
i wonder how many cast we have this season? 13? or they will be back normal 11?
13

Thanks. I hope there is at least 4 FF teams. (But my guess is there will be only 3.)

4 FF
4 MF
5 MM
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on June 14, 2023, 09:07:52 AM
Another season with an unnecessary amount of M/M teams.  :groan:

Rooting for the F/F teams and the one that looks like a Mother and Daughter. :2hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Jjw26 on June 14, 2023, 09:10:26 AM
Kiwi and I were able to ID five of the teams already. Once Peach allows me, I'll post their information in the contestant thread. Waiting for her to open it because I have a lot of info.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Walla_Fan on June 14, 2023, 09:59:14 AM
Really looking forward to this season and following this page for the first time!
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Avid on June 14, 2023, 10:18:01 AM
I feel like it will be an all male finale.. I predict it will be an all male finale  . If this is a physical race like last season.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: TARUSAFan on June 14, 2023, 10:20:14 AM
I can't see the pics. :(
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: TARUSAFan on June 14, 2023, 10:26:27 AM
Kiwi and I were able to ID five of the teams already. Once Peach allows me, I'll post their information in the contestant thread. Waiting for her to open it because I have a lot of info.

You are such a legend Jjw26. I hope the diversity, varying ages are met. Looking forward to interesting occupations and relationships.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Joberio on June 14, 2023, 10:30:13 AM
I feel like it will be an all male finale.. I predict it will be an all male finale  . If this is a physical race like last season.
I definitely won't be watching the season if that happens.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: I ♥ TAR on June 14, 2023, 10:34:20 AM
I can't see the pics. :(

Same for me. Idk why some can see them and others not.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: utubefan on June 14, 2023, 10:34:59 AM
I can't see the pics. :(

I can’t see the pics either :/ but I’m on vacay outside the US so I guess they are geoblocked
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on June 14, 2023, 10:51:01 AM
Peach will probably post the teams in the thread soon, they're not up yet. They were on IG.

As for the actual race, I'm surprised there wasn't more sightings yesterday? The only things I found on social media were film crews and Phil, but no teams.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: angelbaby09 on June 14, 2023, 11:12:20 AM
they could probably go in south east asia that why there is no sightings?
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Jjw26 on June 14, 2023, 11:13:24 AM
they could probably go in south east asia that why there is no sightings?
We know where they went (they haven't landed yet), but we can't say where yet until Peach posts the info. We're just waiting on her to post everything that we found yesterday.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: angelbaby09 on June 14, 2023, 11:17:36 AM
anyways i m rooting for an F/F team to win its been a while since an F/F team won
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: smiley on June 14, 2023, 11:17:56 AM
I am so confused.  :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Leafsfan on June 14, 2023, 11:24:17 AM
I am so confused.  :funny: :funny:

We are just waiting on Peach to post a summary of yesterday's events. This should clear up any confusion.
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Post by: TARUSAFan on June 14, 2023, 11:25:02 AM
I can't find any on IG. Am going to bed. Hope I can see it when I wake up.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: angelbaby09 on June 14, 2023, 11:26:29 AM
question, are they are back in US starting line? also no more charter flights?
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Post by: Avid on June 14, 2023, 11:29:27 AM
The 3 mm look superfit.. but all the others look book smart ...I feel like this won't be a physical race.  Half or all the cast would have issues bunjee  jumping ,basing on history of the race .imo :jam: :jam:
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Post by: Leafsfan on June 14, 2023, 11:40:10 AM
question, are they are back in US starting line? also no more charter flights?

Yes and Yes, More info will come later.
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Post by: Parovic on June 14, 2023, 12:35:29 PM
I really want the race go to some of the new countries
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: angelbaby09 on June 14, 2023, 01:07:19 PM
saw some of teams spotted in lax
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Jjw26 on June 14, 2023, 01:10:03 PM
saw some of teams spotted in lax
Yes this was yesterday. We aren't allowed to post it yet until Peach gives us permission.
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: LandonM170 on June 14, 2023, 01:55:48 PM
Wow, so I don't know the teams nor what they look like (just the MM, MF, and FF differences), but I'm so excited. I'm very happy for the Starting Line to be in the US again (even though it doesn't matter since they're likely all on the same flight :drama). Very hopeful for this season, and I feel like the route will be good! Hoping for around 3 new countries (of course 5 would be stellar)!

Even though I have been following TAR Aus and Israel, I'm happy TAR US is filming again, since I'm American, and we get to try and find them!
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: utubefan on June 14, 2023, 02:10:38 PM
Are they going to be able to hit the ground running as soon as they land like old days?
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: OMGitsGARRET on June 14, 2023, 02:54:17 PM
So we aren't allowed to post about the LAX sighting even though it's already out there?
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: utubefan on June 14, 2023, 03:00:45 PM
The sighting at the airline counter gives away where they are off to and they haven’t landed yet so security risk?
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: cole1024 on June 14, 2023, 03:09:15 PM
REALLY hoping we have some strong FF teams this season. It would be great for at least a couple of them to make a deep run!
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: TheRabbi on June 14, 2023, 03:41:05 PM
Thailand a great choice for a first leg!
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 14, 2023, 03:48:09 PM
THAILAND!!!! I'm very excited for Thailand, as I having been dying for a leg in a heavy-populated Asian city for a while now! They could do a great job or a ****ty job in Bangkok, but I'm hopeful for the first.

I like how there was some sort of task in LA before going to the airport, and it wasn't at the starting line location. I feel it actually makes the starting line city have some sort of use. Looking at the flights that departed LAX last night, I'm guessing the flight was LA --> Seoul --> Bangkok, as the Seoul flight at 11:00pm was the only flight that had Thai Airlines listed, but that's just a guess. I hope they had at least two different flights or had the starting line task give you a departure time in Bangkok because I hate when all the times jump on one flight for the first leg.

After I went crazy seeing Bangkok is the first leg, I'm kinda shocked Oceania is just being skipped? I mean there is a possibility for them to do a TAR 7 style route with first heading to Asia then Europe, Africa, and Oceania before heading to the US. I hope that will happen, as I think all of us are hoping for an Australian visit.

Very excited for these next few weeks of racing! Good luck everybody including a huge thank you to Peach, Leafs, oval, and the other mods that are making sure this is done in a safe way!
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: cole1024 on June 14, 2023, 03:51:02 PM
Watching those videos it really seems like this is a completely different show from the past 3 seasons. Even having a task in LA makes me think there will hopefully be more than just a roadblock and detour every single leg, and maybe even more challenging tasks. I have a ton of faith, sounds like production learned and adapted!!
Title: Re: TAR 36: Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: LandonM170 on June 14, 2023, 03:55:18 PM
THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT FLIGHTS!! YES, YES, THANK YOU PRODUCTION!! Finally!

Actually, who knows?
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Post by: ianthebalance on June 14, 2023, 03:59:08 PM
An actual US starting line and commercial flights? The dark times are behind us!
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Post by: Parovic on June 14, 2023, 04:15:56 PM
Are the teams traveling in 1 flight or 2 flights to Bangkok?

Side note: Thailand first leg is pretty much sealing the fate that they skip China/Japan/Taiwan/Korea
Definitely pay attention to Malaysia/Singapore
Or a surprise new appearance of the Kingdom of Brunei
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Post by: Xoruz on June 14, 2023, 04:20:09 PM
Can we acknowledge how TAR prepared for 90-minute episodes by starting off with a major task in LA. Starting with a Roadblock in the US is a first. Also, both LA locations are celebrating 100 years. Love Thailand, but the legs tend to be hit or miss. At the same time, this will give them some sensory overload.


After I went crazy seeing Bangkok is the first leg, I'm kinda shocked Oceania is just being skipped?

I mean, it is winter.
Show content
Israel just faced that problem. Wasn't fun for production.
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 14, 2023, 04:21:54 PM
Can we acknowledge how TAR prepared for 90-minute episodes by starting off with a major task in LA. Starting with a Roadblock in the US is a first. Also, both LA locations are celebrating 100 years. Love Thailand, but the legs tend to be hit or miss. At the same time, this will give them some sensory overload.


After I went crazy seeing Bangkok is the first leg, I'm kinda shocked Oceania is just being skipped?

I mean, it is winter.
Show content
Israel just faced that problem. Wasn't fun for production.

Australia would be warm enough still...but not here in New Zealand. I'm hoping we might see this part of the world later this year for 37!
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Post by: cole1024 on June 14, 2023, 04:24:10 PM
It's so great to hear that production is planning accordingly for the 90 minute episodes... really makes me wonder what's going to happen to 35 though. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they aired this in the fall instead...
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Post by: Maanca on June 14, 2023, 04:27:16 PM
Nice to see Asia again! (Jordan was barely, I know).

If CBS decides to give this season all 90-minute episodes as was announced with 35, they do need to step it up with the leg design now that we're finally back to good ol' charter-free Amazing Race. "Find this place-Roadblock-Detour-Pit Stop" isn't gonna cut it. Shell out for a proper ARI third task.
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 14, 2023, 04:29:37 PM
Finally, teams were spotted at LAX checking onto a flight to Bangkok, Thailand. We cannot confirm anything about the flight details, but we do have reason to believe it was more than one flight. Nothing 100% concrete.

Fossil also overheard production as they set up earlier in the day saying the tasks are going to be harder and got the impression we are no longer in for linear legs, so expect them to be longer to fill our 90 mins mandate.
God, I hope this is true. I haven't been this excited for TAR since the reboot of 33 in September 2021. Hopping this is gonna be great!
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Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 14, 2023, 04:31:33 PM
It's so great to hear that production is planning accordingly for the 90 minute episodes... really makes me wonder what's going to happen to 35 though. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they aired this in the fall instead...

Banish it to Paramount+ like it deserves?

Anyhow, kudos to the first ever Southeast Asian opener city.
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 14, 2023, 04:32:43 PM
Australia would be warm enough still...but not here in New Zealand. I'm hoping we might see this part of the world later this year for 37!
I also think a South Pacific island country would be great. I mean Survivor films in Fiji in the late-fall and early winter, so I think a country in the South Pacific could be possible for the season.
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Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 14, 2023, 04:33:27 PM
Backtracking into Oceania from Asia on a westward course would necessitate a higher budget than currently available.
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Post by: Parovic on June 14, 2023, 04:34:12 PM
Are they going to replicate S33 route
Like they would have done Krabi and Bangkok after Nepal in S33
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Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 14, 2023, 04:35:17 PM
If they're skipping East Asia as seems to be the case, then yes.
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Post by: Parovic on June 14, 2023, 04:36:14 PM
Backtracking into Oceania from Asia on a westward course would necessitate a higher budget than currently available.
Definitely

Most Pacific islands
Let’s say Palau/Fiji
They go either Tokyo/Hong Kong as a connection

For them doing Bangkok first, I suspect the Malaysia/Singapore or even Brunei for the next few legs
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Post by: H_E_L_L_O on June 14, 2023, 05:36:16 PM
Backtracking into Oceania from Asia on a westward course would necessitate a higher budget than currently available.
Definitely

Most Pacific islands
Let’s say Palau/Fiji
They go either Tokyo/Hong Kong as a connection

For them doing Bangkok first, I suspect the Malaysia/Singapore or even Brunei for the next few legs

Perth could be doable if they absolutely wanted to backtrack to Oceania. I’m just hoping we get more than 3 continents.
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Post by: Parovic on June 14, 2023, 05:46:01 PM
Backtracking into Oceania from Asia on a westward course would necessitate a higher budget than currently available.
Definitely

Most Pacific islands
Let’s say Palau/Fiji
They go either Tokyo/Hong Kong as a connection

For them doing Bangkok first, I suspect the Malaysia/Singapore or even Brunei for the next few legs

Perth could be doable if they absolutely wanted to backtrack to Oceania. I’m just hoping we get more than 3 continents.
I think Africa is good tbh
Morocco/Algeria/Egypt/South Africa are doable
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Post by: TeamPlayerAlltheWay on June 14, 2023, 05:47:53 PM
Is it possible for them to backtrack and go to Indonesia? They recently hosted two international events (the G20 and ASEAN summit) so i think its pretty safe to go there, or its more likely for them to go to Malaysia/Singapore or even Brunei? But tbh i prefer if them do max 2 legs in SEA, then go to other region in Asia, especially Central Asia. I truly hope they skip Europe or at least visit new countries there.
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Post by: Parovic on June 14, 2023, 05:54:15 PM
Is it possible for them to backtrack and go to Indonesia? They recently hosted two international events (the G20 and ASEAN summit) so i think its pretty safe to go there, or its more likely for them to go to Malaysia/Singapore or even Brunei? But tbh i prefer if them do max 2 legs in SEA, then go to other region in Asia, especially Central Asia. I truly hope they skip Europe or at least visit new countries there.
Safest bet i think it is Singapore

Singapore has become a fast-growing metropolis even in COVID
During COVID Pandemic, Singapore is the first Asian country to reopen
The disease control has been always stable
Thus,teams can drive on their own  (see TAR3)

In terms of cost-reduction, Singapore is also a SEA flight hubs
A lot of flights make their layovers
Like Central Asia/Africa/Middle East
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Post by: TeamPlayerAlltheWay on June 14, 2023, 07:00:12 PM
Is it possible for them to backtrack and go to Indonesia? They recently hosted two international events (the G20 and ASEAN summit) so i think its pretty safe to go there, or its more likely for them to go to Malaysia/Singapore or even Brunei? But tbh i prefer if them do max 2 legs in SEA, then go to other region in Asia, especially Central Asia. I truly hope they skip Europe or at least visit new countries there.
Safest bet i think it is Singapore

Singapore has become a fast-growing metropolis even in COVID
During COVID Pandemic, Singapore is the first Asian country to reopen
The disease control has been always stable
Thus,teams can drive on their own  (see TAR3)

In terms of cost-reduction, Singapore is also a SEA flight hubs
A lot of flights make their layovers
Like Central Asia/Africa/Middle East

Yeah i also think Singapore is the safest bet for them if they want to visit another country in SEA, probably one or two legs in Thailand (Bangkok and then go to rural thailand) and then go to metropolis like Singapore before leaving SEA.
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Post by: survivorfan181 on June 14, 2023, 08:11:19 PM
I used that same website where you tracked the first flight from Taipei to Bangkok and found a second flight en route from Taipei to Bangkok that gets in at 11:15AM Bangkok time (approximately 90 minutes behind Flight #1 which arrives in Bangkok at 9:45). Do we think if there is a second flight that this is the one?  https://flightaware.com/live/flight/EVA75/history/20230615/0030Z/RCTP/VTBS
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Post by: Malcooolm on June 14, 2023, 09:13:33 PM
Love that we have names for all the 36 teams before we do 35!

Off topic, but does anyone else think that we're WAY overdo for another All-Stars season?! So many A+ teams from 25 to now that just need to be on our screens again...and who knows how many stars 35 and 36 will hold with 26 brand new teams! Really hoping 37 is an All-Stars season.
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Post by: BourkieBoy on June 15, 2023, 06:40:11 AM
Wow! What an amazing day this has been! Thank you so much for all of our TAR Detectives for bringing us so much behind the scenes action! I'm truly amazed at what we have, no words can describe how incredible it is!  :conf: :cheer:

I'm so glad that we are back to "normal" TAR! So glad we are back to commercial flights and we have left the charter behind! The cast sounds like ordinary people doing extraordinary things! Welcome back Asia! Oh how I've missed your craziness these past three seasons! Bangkok is a superb city, in my opinion, the best city in Thailand to have hosted TAR legs!

In summary, I don't think that words can describe my excitement for the rest of this season! Bring it on!  :2hearts:
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Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 15, 2023, 07:16:22 AM
A Switchback to the Theravada prayers from Season 26: Blind Date Edition would be neat.
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Post by: TARFansurvivor on June 15, 2023, 08:49:28 AM
So happy that they are back to regular flight.  :woohoo:
Not to much for another LA start. And I had hoped, for a night leg in Bangkok.
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Post by: ovalorange on June 15, 2023, 08:51:21 AM
Weird note but I like the new fanny pack's they're using this season, wasn't a fan of the old ones without the classic TAR stripe
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Post by: Avid on June 15, 2023, 09:42:33 AM
Love that we have names for all the 36 teams before we do 35!

Off topic, but does anyone else think that we're WAY overdo for another All-Stars season?! So many A+ teams from 25 to now that just need to be on our screens again...and who knows how many stars 35 and 36 will hold with 26 brand new teams! Really hoping 37 is an All-Stars season.
S.40 would be great for a " winners at war" 37 is such an odd number..but I would name it " Winning Again " or "I was a winner" ..we are just 3 seasons from 40
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Post by: Avid on June 15, 2023, 09:45:34 AM
A racer who followed Amazing Race Canada 9 spoilers will definitely have an easier time with the sword dance.. The last task in 9 was a sword dance.. They ain't the same,but it helps..  :amen: I knew these shows feed off one another
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Post by: cbacbacba1 on June 15, 2023, 10:46:00 AM
Great to see TAR back to using commercial flight  :woohoo:
With the 90-minute episodes, hopefully legs are longer with more complex leg design (more route markers are fine, not every location has to hold a task)

Wow at Bangkok being the premier leg. It seems to a perfect timing for Nepal to happen this time  :cheer:
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Post by: Maanca on June 15, 2023, 11:12:54 AM
If one positive can be said about the charter, it was fun for the RFF detectives to have all the guesswork taken out of where they went.
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Post by: cerealking on June 15, 2023, 12:02:19 PM
Wow, I'm really surprised they went to Thailand first.  Agreed that Singapore makes the most sense as the next destination. Didn't expect Oceania this go around since it's very late fall there.
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Post by: cole1024 on June 15, 2023, 09:58:36 PM
I feel like TAR is one of the best shows at learning from their mistakes and adjusting for future seasons. Hearing that the first leg was already WAYY longer than the 34-35 legs (weren't a few of them only about AN HOUR?) makes me very optimistic for this season
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Post by: ovalorange on June 15, 2023, 10:11:02 PM
If one positive can be said about the charter, it was fun for the RFF detectives to have all the guesswork taken out of where they went.

What? The guesswork is the fun. Being told by a flight radar where they were going made it boring to spoil.
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Post by: Jjw26 on June 15, 2023, 10:24:09 PM
Completely random, extremely useless and utterly stupid fun fact:

This season is the first season of The Amazing Race US that every single team has at least one member on it with an E in their first name.
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 15, 2023, 11:14:47 PM
Completely random, extremely useless and utterly stupid fun fact:

This season is the first season of The Amazing Race US that every single team has at least one member on it with an E in their first name.


 :hfive: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :hfive:

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Post by: Malcooolm on June 16, 2023, 03:23:10 AM
I’m seeing speculation that this season will air this fall instead of 36. Is that true?!
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Post by: TripleTz on June 16, 2023, 06:33:09 AM
I’m seeing speculation that this season will air this fall instead of 36. Is that true?!

If it does, it’s going to MASSIVELY confuse viewers to have a non-charter season followed by a charter season again. If they are worried about not having enough content for 90 minute episodes, I don’t see why they can’t group up 2 legs into 1 episodes? I also don’t think it will be as terrible of a season as some of y’all think it will be. I enjoyed 33 and 34 FAR more than 31 and 32, and those weren’t charter seasons.
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Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 16, 2023, 11:39:14 AM
Excited about the krabi-krabong task: not since TARCAN5's puppet theatre challenge has there been something so culturally relevant/specific!
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 16, 2023, 04:35:59 PM
I’m seeing speculation that this season will air this fall instead of 36. Is that true?!

If it does, it’s going to MASSIVELY confuse viewers to have a non-charter season followed by a charter season again. If they are worried about not having enough content for 90 minute episodes, I don’t see why they can’t group up 2 legs into 1 episodes? I also don’t think it will be as terrible of a season as some of y’all think it will be. I enjoyed 33 and 34 FAR more than 31 and 32, and those weren’t charter seasons.
100% agree with the first part. It would make no sense to air a 'normal' season before the last 'COVID style' season. It would make views pissed in my opinion. I thought 33 and 34 were fine, they were just average, mediocre seasons to me.
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Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 16, 2023, 05:07:50 PM
31 > 34 > 33 > 32 (= 35)
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Post by: TheRabbi on June 16, 2023, 09:34:02 PM
If they air 36 this fall, they would have to seriously consider dumping 35 on Paramount at some point in the future (summer 2024?) I just don't see how they could go backwards in format after returning to pre-covid norms this season. Definitely more excited for 36 personally.
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 17, 2023, 08:41:31 AM
How about chatter re 35 goes in that thread? Thanks!
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Post by: rtvguy5750 on June 17, 2023, 08:45:17 AM
 i do hope with the return of public transport that they dont run into any covid troubles, i don't want them to think they have to go back to the plane
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Post by: Jjw26 on June 17, 2023, 10:08:14 AM
I really thought having more tasks for a 90 minute episode would produce more sightings but I guess not  :'( :'( :'(
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Post by: cole1024 on June 17, 2023, 11:32:39 AM
As of now we have 2 couples, 4 siblings, 3 parent/child, and 2 friend teams.

VERY different from 34 who had 7 couples, 2 siblings, 1 parent/child, and 2 friend teams.

35 had 5 couples, 2 siblings, 1 cousins, 2 parent/child, and 2 friend teams.

I like the direction they went with more family teams!
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Post by: joepetz999 on June 17, 2023, 02:11:48 PM
We've had so many winners recently being romantically linked. If you exclude the two teams of strangers who won, Season 25 is the last time a nonromantically linked team won.
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Post by: Parovic on June 17, 2023, 05:16:25 PM
I hope we don’t lose the track for the teams
It has been like 4 days and we have no info
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Post by: angelbaby09 on June 17, 2023, 05:25:58 PM
the good thing about chater flights is atleast we have an idea where they will go. im thinking 2 legs in thailand and then leg 3 is comming up.
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Post by: Jjw26 on June 17, 2023, 06:13:06 PM
We historically don't get many sightings in Asia so it's not out of the ordinary that we haven't seen anything.
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Post by: Maanca on June 17, 2023, 06:19:37 PM
Thailand always seems to be a tough country to get sightings out of. I remember the surprise when TAR Canada 5 went to Bangkok, we didn't know they even went to the country until the previous episode's preview  :funny:
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Post by: Avid on June 18, 2023, 07:56:46 AM
If they air 36 this fall, they would have to seriously consider dumping 35 on Paramount at some point in the future (summer 2024?) I just don't see how they could go backwards in format after returning to pre-covid norms this season. Definitely more excited for 36 personally.
I was really hoping s.35 would be a celebration, but honestly  there is so . Much.confusion around it . Travis and Nicole were the last  top 3 afr/Ame  duo in tar 23 . 35 was supposed to be shown long be4 writers strike ..BUT we MOVE. Nothing much we can do  if cbs has chosen to throw the most diverse top 3 since 23 in Paramount +  water  :furious:
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Post by: rtvguy5750 on June 18, 2023, 08:07:01 AM
Really hoping we get sightings soon, I am a bit worried in the back of my mind that public travel will cause covid cases within teams and that it's going to be a disaster, fingers crossed for some sightings!
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Post by: angelbaby09 on June 18, 2023, 08:13:43 AM
I need asia to pull through for sightinngs lmao
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Post by: Cyzoran on June 19, 2023, 06:03:07 AM
Just now catching up with all of this, but it looks like they are back to public transportation? Does this mean they are responsible for their own tickets? Or are they all on the same flights still, just with other people? Probably too early to tell but thought I’d ask.
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Post by: NumfarPTB on June 19, 2023, 06:21:47 AM
Just now catching up with all of this, but it looks like they are back to public transportation? Does this mean they are responsible for their own tickets? Or are they all on the same flights still, just with other people? Probably too early to tell but thought I’d ask.

We do have reports of some airport drama in LAX. It does seem to bring us back to responsible for their own tickets.
But limiting which flights are eligeable, does seem like a precaution production would maintain, though I do miss the days when we'd have a team finding an alternate route of their own.
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Post by: Avid on June 21, 2023, 08:14:36 AM
Just now catching up with all of this, but it looks like they are back to public transportation? Does this mean they are responsible for their own tickets? Or are they all on the same flights still, just with other people? Probably too early to tell but thought I’d ask.

We do have reports of some airport drama in LAX. It does seem to bring us back to responsible for their own tickets.
But limiting which flights are eligeable, does seem like a precaution production would maintain, though I do miss the days when we'd have a team finding an alternate route of their own.
The only drama I know about is the  passport namè not matching the ticket  name of a certain team..Was there any other DRAMA :duno:
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Post by: Parovic on June 21, 2023, 08:23:15 PM
We lost them again

I think they are in LEG5 rn
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Post by: Maanca on June 21, 2023, 08:26:06 PM
Can't believe I'm saying this since it's been 4 seasons since we've seen it, but I can't wait until they get out of southeast Asia. It's generally a nightmare for sightings unless they're in the major world-centric cities  :funny:
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Post by: Parovic on June 21, 2023, 08:57:39 PM
Can't believe I'm saying this since it's been 4 seasons since we've seen it, but I can't wait until they get out of southeast Asia. It's generally a nightmare for sightings unless they're in the major world-centric cities  :funny:
Even when they visit India or Middle East, we don't have sightings
The most sightings we have in Asia is Hong Kong and that was it lmao
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Post by: Zack. on June 21, 2023, 09:26:25 PM
I think in terms of sightings we're more likely to see them in airports in Asia vs running full legs (minus something like TAR 32 in Manila where they were followed the entire day).

The route is alright; in a pre-COVID world I'd probably be less high on Thailand and Vietnam again but as long as the tasks are good and the teams are interesting I'm sated. A big jump to Africa would be nice though  :2hearts:
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Post by: Parovic on June 21, 2023, 09:36:30 PM
Safest guess i think they are in Central Asia or Nepal or India

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Post by: Malcooolm on June 21, 2023, 09:44:40 PM
I am just PRAYING that it’s not two Thailand legs followed by two Vietnam legs. The first five episodes of TAR33 where we only saw two countries were just so…sluggish. And I know we have a similar thing coming in TAR35 so I’d hate to see that pattern being repeated here.
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Post by: Parovic on June 21, 2023, 09:51:54 PM
I am just PRAYING that it’s not two Thailand legs followed by two Vietnam legs. The first five episodes of TAR33 where we only saw two countries were just so…sluggish. And I know we have a similar thing coming in TAR35 so I’d hate to see that pattern being repeated here.
I am not mad at them making 2 legs in each Thailand and Vietnam
But I do want them to insert 2-3 new countries afterwards
aka the long-awaiting Nepal or the untouched Central Asian Countries like Tajikistan/Uzbekistan or something really unexpected aka Brunei or Maldives
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on June 21, 2023, 10:01:34 PM
They would probably rest for 3-4 days then get ready for another leg. My guess is they went westward to Central Asia or South Asia, probably not India. If they went south, then Indonesia or Singapore. We won't know when a surprise leg would pop out right in front of our eyes.  :)x :2hearts:
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Post by: Jjw26 on June 22, 2023, 01:06:45 AM
probably not India.
Well...
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Post by: angelbaby09 on June 22, 2023, 01:13:08 AM
leg 1 thailand
leg 2 thailand
leg3 vietnam kor
leg 4?
leg 5? india?
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Post by: Malcooolm on June 22, 2023, 02:03:33 AM
Let me preface this by saying I am NOT trying to be a whiner and I am just happy to have the race back. Buuuuuut seeing the first three countries visited be Thailand, Vietnam, and India is just a little  :groan: to me! They seem like the basic countries (in addition to China and Japan) that TAR alwaaaays seem to hit when they go to Asia. I understand that there are still plenty of travel restrictions and such and that it’s still a miracle we can have the race going on but I’d love to see something a little fresher
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 22, 2023, 02:10:42 AM
I'm actually very happy for India to be on this season especially with a Jaipur visit, a city that hasn't been visited by the US since season 14.

I'm guessing we have something around:
Leg 1 - Bangkok, Thailand (June 15th)
Leg 2 - Thailand (June 17th)
Leg 3 - Cần Thơ, Vietnam (June 19th)
Leg 4 - Vietnam (June 19th/20th)
Leg 5 - Jaipur, India (June 22nd)

I wonder if India will be only for one leg or two. I'm leaning toward two, but that would be six legs in Asia. I will say I am a little annoyed by that, but I guess that makes up for 33 - 35.
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Post by: H_E_L_L_O on June 22, 2023, 02:11:34 AM
Let me preface this by saying I am NOT trying to be a whiner and I am just happy to have the race back. Buuuuuut seeing the first three countries visited be Thailand, Vietnam, and India is just a little  :groan: to me! They seem like the basic countries (in addition to China and Japan) that TAR alwaaaays seem to hit when they go to Asia. I understand that there are still plenty of travel restrictions and such and that it’s still a miracle we can have the race going on but I’d love to see something a little fresher

Agreed. Very glad that TAR is back to pre-Covid standards but it’s disappointing when we know that such cool and interesting countries were lined up for 33 and 35 that got canceled last minute.
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 22, 2023, 02:22:02 AM
You know, I do wanna bitch a little. I think my standards are too high for this route. If that 2nd Thailand leg is not rural and just another leg in Bangkok, I will be disappointed. I'm also very annoyed at two legs in Vietnam especially if leg 4 is in Ho Chi Minh City due to having two legs in 31 that were kinda whatever imo. I really don't want to have half the race be in Asia especially South and Southeast Asia. 32's India legs were fine, so I have faith that India will be okay.

I just hope we get something very good like Mauritius, Kenya, or South Africa next. I hope this season doesn't get more than three legs in Europe, two would be best. I hope that they visit the Balkans, Nordic, and/or Ireland.
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Post by: H_E_L_L_O on June 22, 2023, 02:35:44 AM
You know, I do wanna bitch a little. I think my standards are too high for this route. If that 2nd Thailand leg is not rural and just another leg in Bangkok, I will be disappointed. I'm also very annoyed at two legs in Vietnam especially if leg 4 is in Ho Chi Minh City due to having two legs in 31 that were kinda whatever imo. I really don't want to have half the race be in Asia especially South and Southeast Asia. 32's India legs were fine, so I have faith that India will be okay.

I just hope we get something very good like Mauritius, Kenya, or South Africa next. I hope this season doesn't get more than three legs in Europe, two would be best. I hope that they visit the Balkans, Nordic, and/or Ireland.

5 legs in Asia coming off of 2 Eurocentric and 1 LATAM centric route is not the most appealing. Hopefully we get non-Eurasian locations.
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Post by: Avid on June 22, 2023, 02:47:57 AM
Yes India...first Tar Australia and now tar USA... Yaaaa..hopefully we get to see modern India..  :clap2:
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Post by: redskevin88 on June 22, 2023, 03:15:25 AM
probably not India.
Well...

He got the surprise leg correct though.  :lol:
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on June 22, 2023, 03:33:16 AM
probably not India.
Well...

He got the surprise leg correct though.  :lol:

Oh well, this means they might be entering Nepal. :jam:
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Post by: BourkieBoy on June 22, 2023, 04:50:09 AM
So we're off to India! I'm not exactly sure how I should feel about this! India is a great country and provides with fantastic, high quality and entertaining legs (glad to see Jaipur again for the first time since 2011!), but India itself is an extremely overused country by TAR...
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Post by: TARFansurvivor on June 22, 2023, 05:04:49 AM
Jaipur again  :dick If they do India why not, go to places like Udaipur or Goa!
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Post by: ZBC Company on June 22, 2023, 05:22:23 AM
I'm very excited for India.
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Post by: BritishTARFan on June 22, 2023, 05:26:42 AM
The first visit to Rajasthan since S14!, hoping if there's a second leg they travel to Jodhpur or Jaisalmer
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Post by: TeamPlayerAlltheWay on June 22, 2023, 06:07:14 AM
Oh so far its Thailand, Vietnam, and India??? I guess they want to visit their "regular" countries and not taking many risks for their first 'around the world' route post 2020. Cannot wait for them to visit Tanzania/Morocco, France/Germany and Brazil next
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Post by: Parovic on June 22, 2023, 06:35:06 AM
It’s a bit disappointing
I was expecting Nepal

They give me a route very similar to S18/S14
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Post by: Avid on June 22, 2023, 06:38:56 AM
Oh so far its Thailand, Vietnam, and India??? I guess they want to visit their "regular" countries and not taking many risks for their first 'around the world' route post 2020. Cannot wait for them to visit Tanzania/Morocco, France/Germany and Brazil next
I guess middle east next. Probably Qatar coz its the only country not be visited in Arabic middle east. They will need the new country narrative and it's in the way.. Or maybe there will b on new country this s.36/35
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Post by: Parovic on June 22, 2023, 06:40:57 AM
Oh so far its Thailand, Vietnam, and India??? I guess they want to visit their "regular" countries and not taking many risks for their first 'around the world' route post 2020. Cannot wait for them to visit Tanzania/Morocco, France/Germany and Brazil next
I guess middle east next. Probably Qatar coz its the only country not be visited in Arabic middle east. They will need the new country narrative and it's in the way.. Or maybe there will b on new country this s.36/35
I hope they go to Nepal
But it is very slim

Even more, I can tell they go to UAE but not Qatar
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Post by: I ♥ TAR on June 22, 2023, 06:43:12 AM
Yikes @ first two teams eliminated possibly being FF teams.

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Post by: Avid on June 22, 2023, 06:44:49 AM
Am I the only one who thinks that all the 3 ff are out  .4ff at most
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Post by: Joberio on June 22, 2023, 06:44:57 AM
Yikes @ first two teams eliminated possibly being FF teams.
And all five men's teams are alive and kicking, should Greg & John show up in India.
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Post by: Jjw26 on June 22, 2023, 06:46:24 AM
Saying it now. Steve & Anna are the next Gary & Mallory.
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Post by: TeamPlayerAlltheWay on June 22, 2023, 06:50:22 AM
Oh so far its Thailand, Vietnam, and India??? I guess they want to visit their "regular" countries and not taking many risks for their first 'around the world' route post 2020. Cannot wait for them to visit Tanzania/Morocco, France/Germany and Brazil next
I guess middle east next. Probably Qatar coz its the only country not be visited in Arabic middle east. They will need the new country narrative and it's in the way.. Or maybe there will b on new country this s.36/35
I hope they go to Nepal
But it is very slim

Even more, I can tell they go to UAE but not Qatar

I hope they at least go to one middle eastern country, Qatar would be great, and i wouldnt oppose revisit to Oman, Bahrain or Kuwait, but if they went to ME we probably got a Dubai or Abu Dhabi leg
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Post by: TARFansurvivor on June 22, 2023, 06:50:48 AM
Yikes @ first two teams eliminated possibly being FF teams.
crazy if we get a final five with M/M.
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Post by: TARFansurvivor on June 22, 2023, 06:54:33 AM
The first visit to Rajasthan since S14!, hoping if there's a second leg they travel to Jodhpur or Jaisalmer
Jaisalmer would be cool, Jodhpur was in season 7.
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Post by: Avid on June 22, 2023, 06:58:22 AM
So, a m/m is going to be in top 4 regardless!  4 mm plus a Mega leg = 6 legs. A testeserone season will have many fights .watch the space  :jam:
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Post by: BourkieBoy on June 22, 2023, 07:00:10 AM
With all this discussion & speculation of the Middle East possibly being the next destination - you do release that the TAR Detectives have repeatedly stated Qatar is a "no-go zone" right?

Qatar was tried in Season 25, but there was huge problems with Elise or something (the Detectives can probably explain this better then me!) As a result, if the Middle East is visited, it'll probably be a UAE/Oman/Kuwait/Bahrain re-visit, because of course, Saudi Arabia is also a no-go zone with their historical & current treatment of women...
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on June 22, 2023, 07:47:22 AM
If they're gonna enter Europe, I'm gonna bet my cash on either Latvia / Slovakia / Slovenia.  :)x :2hearts:
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Post by: Leafsfan on June 22, 2023, 07:57:18 AM
With all this discussion & speculation of the Middle East possibly being the next destination - you do release that the TAR Detectives have repeatedly stated Qatar is a "no-go zone" right?

Qatar was tried in Season 25, but there was huge problems with Elise or something (the Detectives can probably explain this better then me!) As a result, if the Middle East is visited, it'll probably be a UAE/Oman/Kuwait/Bahrain re-visit, because of course, Saudi Arabia is also a no-go zone with their historical & current treatment of women...

Qatar at the last minute pulled the filming permits, making it impossible to shoot there.
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on June 22, 2023, 08:10:03 AM
Morgan and Lena are still in it!  :cheer:  :conf:
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Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on June 22, 2023, 08:22:28 AM
Personally I don’t have an issue with the 3 countries so far? In what world is Vietnam overused lol this would be its 7th season out of 36.

As for Thailand and India, it’s just cool to see those legs ran with so many teams (as opposed to being endgame legs). Language barrier alone makes them more difficult on the teams.

My one complaint though is the CASTING. Where is the diversity??? 34 had only 2 non-POC teams I believe. This one seems like it’s 60-70% non-POC. And don’t come at me for complaining about this because SO SO many seasons (both early and modern) lacked diversity so there’s no reason we can’t have a streak of POC-dominated casts.
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Post by: I ♥ TAR on June 22, 2023, 08:34:02 AM
Did CBS get rid of 50% BIPOC rule? I am trying really hard but I can not count 13 BIPOC people in this cast.
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Post by: Jjw26 on June 22, 2023, 08:37:30 AM
Did CBS get rid of 50% BIPOC rule? I am trying really hard but I can not count 13 BIPOC people in this cast.
I think Ashley could be Latina which would bring the number to 50%, but impossible to know for certain until we ID her officially.
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Post by: rtvguy5750 on June 22, 2023, 08:39:07 AM
Did CBS get rid of 50% BIPOC rule? I am trying really hard but I can not count 13 BIPOC people in this cast.

it's definitely 50%, they would have made sure of it
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Post by: rtvguy5750 on June 22, 2023, 08:40:31 AM
Personally I don’t have an issue with the 3 countries so far? In what world is Vietnam overused lol this would be its 7th season out of 36.

As for Thailand and India, it’s just cool to see those legs ran with so many teams (as opposed to being endgame legs). Language barrier alone makes them more difficult on the teams.

My one complaint though is the CASTING. Where is the diversity??? 34 had only 2 non-POC teams I believe. This one seems like it’s 60-70% non-POC. And don’t come at me for complaining about this because SO SO many seasons (both early and modern) lacked diversity so there’s no reason we can’t have a streak of POC-dominated casts.

CBS would have made sure it is 50% just because someone appears white in bad quality photos doesn't mean they are/don't have another racial background
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on June 22, 2023, 08:43:23 AM
I could be wrong but I thought the POC people were

Andrea & Malaina
Morgan & Lena
John & Greg
Jocelyn & Victor
Elizabeth & Iliana
Liam & Yeremi
and Ian

Which would be exactly 13?
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Post by: Brannockdevice on June 22, 2023, 09:38:49 AM
Looking back on it, the only season that has had four legs in southeast Asia was season 19. Considering how much I absolutely loved that season, I am absolutely okay with this route so far.
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Post by: ianthebalance on June 22, 2023, 09:39:55 AM
Riding elephants? They’ll never learn
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 22, 2023, 12:25:35 PM
In what world is Vietnam overused lol this would be its 7th season out of 36.
In the past eight seasons it's been visited three times now. I'm fine with going back to countries soon after a visit if they are going to new cities in the country and not the same two (for Vietnam it's Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh). If Cần Thơ was the only visited city in Vietnam, I will be fine with that. I just don't want another Ho Chi Minh leg for a bit, as we just had two legs in the city in 31.
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Post by: TARFansurvivor on June 22, 2023, 12:40:52 PM
Iam happy that we get to see Asia again. But please do some new things like night leg in Bangkok, and other places in India other then a city. They have been to three times now. Season 32 did a great job, with India then.
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Post by: cerealking on June 22, 2023, 01:36:33 PM
Israel could be a contender for the ME because the issues with getting their passport stamped have mostly been fixed. I think they're down to only a half dozen or so countries that won't stamp your passport if you've been there and they're mostly places they won't go like Iran and Pakistan.
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Post by: Maanca on June 22, 2023, 01:51:04 PM
Israel could be a contender for the ME because the issues with getting their passport stamped have mostly been fixed. I think they're down to only a half dozen or so countries that won't stamp your passport if you've been there and they're mostly places they won't go like Iran and Pakistan.

I remember the speculation while TAR34 was in neighboring Jordan, but they'll never go there. Israel's too much of a politically-charged issue to the US, CBS would get dumped on for making it look good.
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Post by: Brannockdevice on June 23, 2023, 09:15:28 AM
Israel could be a contender for the ME because the issues with getting their passport stamped have mostly been fixed. I think they're down to only a half dozen or so countries that won't stamp your passport if you've been there and they're mostly places they won't go like Iran and Pakistan.

I remember the speculation while TAR34 was in neighboring Jordan, but they'll never go there. Israel's too much of a politically-charged issue to the US, CBS would get dumped on for making it look good.

I think the most realistic Middle Eastern destinations are Oman, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates. I know they love to go to Dubai but I wouldn’t mind a revisit to Abu Dhabi!
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Post by: Parovic on June 23, 2023, 09:38:30 AM
Is it just me hoping them going north to Nepal or Central Asia then go to Europe
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Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 23, 2023, 09:54:37 AM
Fun fact: Australia 2 also went to Jaipur with exactly ten teams.
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Post by: cole1024 on June 23, 2023, 10:29:25 AM
What do we think the odds are that production brings back U-Turns?
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Post by: Maanca on June 23, 2023, 10:52:19 AM
What do we think the odds are that production brings back U-Turns?

They might. In 33 the reasoning was "given what's going on in the world, we don't want mean-spirited gameplay", then in 34 they shifted more toward "it's unfair with the group starts".

That's all moot now that we're back to commercial flights.
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Post by: angelbaby09 on June 23, 2023, 10:54:43 AM
im thinking uae or something first in middle east next
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Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on June 23, 2023, 12:34:31 PM
What do we think the odds are that production brings back U-Turns?

They might. In 33 the reasoning was "given what's going on in the world, we don't want mean-spirited gameplay", then in 34 they shifted more toward "it's unfair with the group starts".

That's all moot now that we're back to commercial flights.

I thought the reasoning was just because they wanted teams off the race course asap? To limit exposure.

Hopefully they are back in 36. We need drama to keep the episodes interesting.
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Post by: Maanca on June 23, 2023, 12:59:09 PM
I thought the reasoning was just because they wanted teams off the race course asap? To limit exposure.

Hopefully they are back in 36. We need drama to keep the episodes interesting.

Ah yeah, probably. I'm just remembering articles where Phil talked about the measures they took.
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Post by: halfass09 on June 23, 2023, 01:02:26 PM
I live in Abu Dhabi and summer officially started a few days ago. It feels like over 40 degrees every day!! I doubt they will come to the Gulf region this time of year. Don't think Production would want teams collapsing from heat exhaustion
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 23, 2023, 02:36:16 PM
I live in Abu Dhabi and summer officially started a few days ago. It feels like over 40 degrees every day!! I doubt they will come to the Gulf region this time of year. Don't think Production would want teams collapsing from heat exhaustion
Well they did go to Abu Dhabi in 23 which filmed their legs in mid-to-late June 2013, so I think it's possible.
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Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 23, 2023, 03:19:12 PM
^

Dubai during both 15 as well as 31 (Reality Clash/Showdown) also, to say nothing of the lone Kuwait visit in 10.
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Post by: TeamPlayerAlltheWay on June 23, 2023, 05:07:21 PM
I live in Abu Dhabi and summer officially started a few days ago. It feels like over 40 degrees every day!! I doubt they will come to the Gulf region this time of year. Don't think Production would want teams collapsing from heat exhaustion
Well they did go to Abu Dhabi in 23 which filmed their legs in mid-to-late June 2013, so I think it's possible.

Also i read in the news that India, Thailand, and Vietnam also experiencing heat wave since April where the temp went as high as 45 degrees, i dont know the temp now, but its probably still high there. So yeah probably still possible
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on June 24, 2023, 07:54:41 AM
Not sure how to feel about a route that looks like:

Legs 1 and 2: Thailand
Legs 3 and 4: Vietnam
Legs 5 and 6: India

Especially since it's looking like legs 5 and 6 were only in Jaipur. If 1 and 2 were only in Bangkok and 3 and 4 were only in Can Tho that might be a little disappointing to be halfway through the season and only get 3 different countries let alone 3 different cities.

I'm still grateful we even have the race in the first place, but even seasons 34 and 35 had visited more countries by this point.
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Post by: Jjw26 on June 24, 2023, 08:02:52 AM
Especially since it's looking like legs 5 and 6 were only in Jaipur.
Technically leg 5 was in the city of Amer
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Post by: TARUSAFan on June 24, 2023, 08:06:06 AM
Not sure how to feel about a route that looks like:

Legs 1 and 2: Thailand
Legs 3 and 4: Vietnam
Legs 5 and 6: India

Especially since it's looking like legs 5 and 6 were only in Jaipur. If 1 and 2 were only in Bangkok and 3 and 4 were only in Can Tho that might be a little disappointing to be halfway through the season and only get 3 different countries let alone 3 different cities.

I'm still grateful we even have the race in the first place, but even seasons 34 and 35 had visited more countries by this point.

Grateful that we have the Race and its back to "normal" filming but the route looks boring. The usual countries in Asia are visited.
Not fond of the x2 visits on the same country back to back to back, even more so on the same city. When you compare it to the recently concluded filming of Hamerotz LaMillion (a superior route).
Not impressed so far with how we are. They could have gone South Korea - Laos - Nepal (x2) - Kyrgyzstan - Oman for the 1st half.
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Post by: H_E_L_L_O on June 24, 2023, 08:12:13 AM
Every leg that goes by it gets harder and harder to save this route.
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Post by: angelbaby09 on June 24, 2023, 09:13:11 AM
yikes at the route so far! its giving TAR 24
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Post by: QuizMan92 on June 24, 2023, 09:15:05 AM
yikes at the route so far! its giving TAR 24
I was going to say that until I saw this comment. Hoping that the second half visits more new and/or interesting places
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Post by: Avid on June 24, 2023, 09:34:55 AM
Not sure how to feel about a route that looks like:

Legs 1 and 2: Thailand
Legs 3 and 4: Vietnam
Legs 5 and 6: India

Especially since it's looking like legs 5 and 6 were only in Jaipur. If 1 and 2 were only in Bangkok and 3 and 4 were only in Can Tho that might be a little disappointing to be halfway through the season and only get 3 different countries let alone 3 different cities.

I'm still grateful we even have the race in the first place, but even seasons 34 and 35 had visited more countries by this point.

Grateful that we have the Race and its back to "normal" filming but the route looks boring. The usual countries in Asia are visited.
Not fond of the x2 visits on the same country back to back to back, even more so on the same city. When you compare it to the recently concluded filming of Hamerotz LaMillion (a superior route).
Not impressed so far with how we are. They could have gone South Korea - Laos - Nepal (x2) - Kyrgyzstan - Oman for the 1st half.
Be grateful coz Tar Australia  celeb has 
India leg 1,2,3
Malaysia 4,5,6
Cambodia 7,8,9 possibly
😂 :hfive:
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Post by: kyleisalive on June 24, 2023, 09:58:50 AM
Fingers crossed the next destination is France and the final leg is L.A.

I'm excited for the route as is, but at this point, if people are going to be this negative about it, production should go the full distance and try to tank it in those peoples' eyes.

TAR (US) hasn't filmed in Asia in five years, but all of these destinations are too boring.  Womp womp.
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on June 24, 2023, 10:06:08 AM
I'm very happy to see TARUS back in Asia for the first time in 5 years. Especially Vietnam and India which I believe to both be top tier countries in this franchise. So many iconic moments and tasks have happened in those countries.

But at the same time I don't think it's too unreasonable that some people are a bit disappointed at everything being double leg countries so far. Spending half the season in 3 countries gets TAR24 a lot of negative feedback so I can understand if the same happens here. I understand circumstances are different, the budget may not be as big, and COVID is still out there. So for those reasons I am happy they're even in Asia and doing a worldwide non-charter season to begin with. I just hope the backhalf of the season isn't filled with only double leg countries too.
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Post by: Avid on June 24, 2023, 10:16:42 AM
Not sure how to feel about a route that looks like:

Legs 1 and 2: Thailand
Legs 3 and 4: Vietnam
Legs 5 and 6: India

Especially since it's looking like legs 5 and 6 were only in Jaipur. If 1 and 2 were only in Bangkok and 3 and 4 were only in Can Tho that might be a little disappointing to be halfway through the season and only get 3 different countries let alone 3 different cities.

I'm still grateful we even have the race in the first place, but even seasons 34 and 35 had visited more countries by this point.

Grateful that we have the Race and its back to "normal" filming but the route looks boring. The usual countries in Asia are visited.
Not fond of the x2 visits on the same country back to back to back, even more so on the same city. When you compare it to the recently concluded filming of Hamerotz LaMillion (a superior route).
Not impressed so far with how we are. They could have gone South Korea - Laos - Nepal (x2) - Kyrgyzstan - Oman for the 1st half.
Well Tar USA has 37 to film  in 2 months but hamerotz doesn't. Truth is tar Israel got a bigger budget than USA imo . And USA got the same budget, but for two races In my opinion
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Post by: cole1024 on June 24, 2023, 11:55:16 AM
It is a little sad that we are 6 legs in and have only been to 3 countries. I just hope the tasks/overall leg design are decent and the boot order is good (praying that the 3 FF teams are still in!)

So after the second leg in India we are probably looking at 8 teams remaining, which sets up every leg from now on to be an elimination leg:

Leg 1 in Bangkok: 13th place eliminated
Leg 2 in Bangkok: 12th place eliminated
Leg 3 in Can Tho: KOR leg with no elimination
Leg 4 in Vietnam: 11th place eliminated
Leg 5 in Amer: 10th place eliminated
Leg 6 in Jaipur: 9th place eliminated
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Post by: H_E_L_L_O on June 24, 2023, 12:48:44 PM
Not sure how to feel about a route that looks like:

Legs 1 and 2: Thailand
Legs 3 and 4: Vietnam
Legs 5 and 6: India

Especially since it's looking like legs 5 and 6 were only in Jaipur. If 1 and 2 were only in Bangkok and 3 and 4 were only in Can Tho that might be a little disappointing to be halfway through the season and only get 3 different countries let alone 3 different cities.

I'm still grateful we even have the race in the first place, but even seasons 34 and 35 had visited more countries by this point.

Grateful that we have the Race and its back to "normal" filming but the route looks boring. The usual countries in Asia are visited.
Not fond of the x2 visits on the same country back to back to back, even more so on the same city. When you compare it to the recently concluded filming of Hamerotz LaMillion (a superior route).
Not impressed so far with how we are. They could have gone South Korea - Laos - Nepal (x2) - Kyrgyzstan - Oman for the 1st half.
Well Tar USA has 37 to film  in 2 months but hamerotz doesn't. Truth is tar Israel got a bigger budget than USA imo . And USA got the same budget, but for two races In my opinion

Hopefully 37 hits some southern hemisphere locations, it’ll be spring by then.
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Post by: ianthebalance on June 24, 2023, 12:49:52 PM
I don’t mind having not as many countries this season if it means we can have a non-pandemic feeling Race
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Post by: Avid on June 24, 2023, 01:19:24 PM


So after the second leg in India we are probably looking at 8 teams remaining
One of the last times that we saw the teams in India ,they were 8!  And @ the end of this 2nd Indian leg,they Will  probably  b 8  :hfive: what a coincidence
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Post by: Brannockdevice on June 24, 2023, 01:54:55 PM
I wonder what the chances are that this season could be more than 12 legs?

If we have 13 teams and every leg is an elimination, that would be an 11 leg race.
But we know leg 3 is a KOR, and assumed NEL. So that already bumps up the race to 12 legs.

To me though it seems very random to ONLY have the one non elimination leg - and randomly placed in leg 3 at that. Perhaps we could be back to 2 or 3 non eliminations?

We could be looking at a 13 or 14 leg race.
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Post by: Leafsfan on June 24, 2023, 02:37:35 PM
I wonder what the chances are that this season could be more than 12 legs?

If we have 13 teams and every leg is an elimination, that would be an 11 leg race.
But we know leg 3 is a KOR, and assumed NEL. So that already bumps up the race to 12 legs.

To me though it seems very random to ONLY have the one non elimination leg - and randomly placed in leg 3 at that. Perhaps we could be back to 2 or 3 non eliminations?

We could be looking at a 13 or 14 leg race.

Its not gonna be more than 12 legs.
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Post by: TARFansurvivor on June 24, 2023, 03:29:47 PM
yikes at the route so far! its giving TAR 24
I was going to say that until I saw this comment. Hoping that the second half visits more new and/or interesting places
Fingers crossed for that! I guess if they go to Africa we will see Morocco or Tanzania again. And Europe France. If they go to countries they visit before, just try to go other cities.
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Post by: I ♥ TAR on June 24, 2023, 03:45:34 PM
I am fully expecting 2nd half to be just Europe countries visited multiple times already.
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 24, 2023, 04:37:39 PM
The whining here is crazy!

How many of you have been to Bangkok? Jaipur? Not to mention VietNam?

I'll guess not many...yet you are whining about "boring". How can you possibly know with the small windows we have?

I have been to the first two...and there is NOTHING boring there. Both are fascinating.

How about a little excitement about new sites and hopefully great tasks? Some happiness? Or an informed discussion about what you would have liked to see?

I feel sorry for you all...if you ever get to extensively travel to some of these exotic places I can just hear the whining now..


 :groan: :badhorse: :groan:








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Post by: Brannockdevice on June 24, 2023, 04:39:25 PM
The whining here is crazy!

How many of you have been to Bangkok? Jaipur? Not to mention VietNam?

I'll guess not many...yet you are whining about "boring". How can you possibly know with the small windows we have?

I have been to the first two...and there is NOTHING boring there. Both are fascinating.

How about a little excitement about new sites and hopefully great tasks? Some happiness? Or an informed discussion about what you would have liked to see?

I feel sorry for you all...if you ever get to extensively travel to some of these exotic places I can just hear the whining now..


 :groan: :badhorse: :groan:

I'm begging y'all to have an ounce of gratitude. I am seriously considering deleting my account, this website is no longer positive
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Post by: Linda BC2 on June 24, 2023, 04:41:26 PM
I can say I've never been to most places TAR has been. I googled Jaipur and it looks gorgeous, from the palaces to the forts.  I can't wait until TAR airs and we can see all the places they've been so far and will go to this season. Always a fan!
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Post by: Jjw26 on June 24, 2023, 04:46:56 PM
I think most of us, at least me, are more annoyed about the double legs. Halfway through the race and only 3 countries visited so far (and all of them are basically in the same city for the two legs). I think Thailand, Vietnam and India are great ways to start the race (especially after not having any Asia legs since 32), I just wish we could've gone to more countries to see more of the beautiful world we live in. I think the race is more fun when we can go to as many unique countries as possible. Love the destinations, just wish more destinations were involved.
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Post by: ianthebalance on June 24, 2023, 05:18:37 PM
For me, I am happy that they can use taxis and explore more of the areas at a time than needing a lot of countries
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Post by: TARFansurvivor on June 24, 2023, 05:22:08 PM
I think most of us, at least me, are more annoyed about the double legs. Halfway through the race and only 3 countries visited so far (and all of them are basically in the same city for the two legs). I think Thailand, Vietnam and India are great ways to start the race (especially after not having any Asia legs since 32), I just wish we could've gone to more countries to see more of the beautiful world we live in. I think the race is more fun when we can go to as many unique countries as possible. Love the destinations, just wish more destinations were involved.
100 % agree! I have No problem with the countries, they go to. I just wish, they could mix it up. I love the show and gonna watch the season. But still i think its okay, to have an opion about it.
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Post by: kyleisalive on June 24, 2023, 05:23:53 PM
For all we know the KOR leg is being treated as a single leg and everyone’s complaining about, reasonably, one set of legs in the same city.

Been to Bangkok and the other end of Vietnam.  I’d go back in a heartbeat.  Based on the photos posted in this forum, Jaipur looks beautiful.  It makes me wonder if people are looking at the same images I am to be that critical of it.
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Post by: Leafsfan on June 24, 2023, 06:40:35 PM
For all we know the KOR leg is being treated as a single leg and everyone’s complaining about, reasonably, one set of legs in the same city.

Been to Bangkok and the other end of Vietnam.  I’d go back in a heartbeat.  Based on the photos posted in this forum, Jaipur looks beautiful.  It makes me wonder if people are looking at the same images I am to be that critical of it.

No one is being critical of the places visited. To insinuate that is plain wrong. What people are annoyed with is the having 6 legs in only 3 countries. This would be the same if the race did 6 legs in 3 other countries.

To quote JJW "I think the race is more fun when we can go to as many unique countries as possible. Love the destinations, just wish more destinations were involved."
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Post by: Maanca on June 24, 2023, 06:50:13 PM
No one is being critical of the places visited. To insinuate that is plain wrong. What people are annoyed with is the having 6 legs in only 3 countries. This would be the same if the race did 6 legs in 3 other countries.

To quote JJW "I think the race is more fun when we can go to as many unique countries as possible. Love the destinations, just wish more destinations were involved."

This. The route is becoming reminiscent of the much maligned TAR24, which spent its first 8 legs in 4 countries. At least if the next country is also 2 legs, going somewhere new would salvage it a little.
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Post by: kyleisalive on June 24, 2023, 06:58:07 PM
I guess if the only thing that people are looking at is ‘amount of places’ then disappointment/annoyance makes a lot of sense.  Just seems like a lot of disappointment to keep hanging on because it feels like this comes up in some form for every version of the show (save for Israel this season, I guess).
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Post by: H_E_L_L_O on June 24, 2023, 07:12:35 PM
I think most of us, at least me, are more annoyed about the double legs. Halfway through the race and only 3 countries visited so far (and all of them are basically in the same city for the two legs). I think Thailand, Vietnam and India are great ways to start the race (especially after not having any Asia legs since 32), I just wish we could've gone to more countries to see more of the beautiful world we live in. I think the race is more fun when we can go to as many unique countries as possible. Love the destinations, just wish more destinations were involved.

This. Very happy that the race is back to filming in Asia but all 3 covid routes already visited more countries by this point in the race (33 - 4; 34 - 5; 35 - 4).
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Post by: Maanca on June 24, 2023, 07:16:37 PM
I guess if the only thing that people are looking at is ‘amount of places’ then disappointment/annoyance makes a lot of sense.  Just seems like a lot of disappointment to keep hanging on because it feels like this comes up in some form for every version of the show (save for Israel this season, I guess).

Oh yeah, Israel's route this year set a high bar that I came in not expecting TAR36 to meet. Not after the routes of 33-35.

We just have to wait and see what the second half looks like.
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Post by: selfeviction on June 24, 2023, 09:04:26 PM
Beyond exited for Can Tho... I've been wishing for years for the show to show the vast diversity of Vietnam without going to the usual locales of Ho Chi Minh or Hanoi.
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 24, 2023, 09:52:15 PM
I think most of us, at least me, are more annoyed about the double legs. Halfway through the race and only 3 countries visited so far (and all of them are basically in the same city for the two legs). I think Thailand, Vietnam and India are great ways to start the race (especially after not having any Asia legs since 32), I just wish we could've gone to more countries to see more of the beautiful world we live in. I think the race is more fun when we can go to as many unique countries as possible. Love the destinations, just wish more destinations were involved.

My GUESS is that the routes were set BEFORE they were asked to make this a 90 minute show.

Its a delight to be able to have way more content but am very sure that this required a LOT of creative thinking on HOW exactly to make it happen.

I'm beyond thrilled to have a 90 minute show. But think of the hours and hours of additional plans that required....
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 24, 2023, 09:57:16 PM
I can say I've never been to most places TAR has been. I googled Jaipur and it looks gorgeous, from the palaces to the forts.  I can't wait until TAR airs and we can see all the places they've been so far and will go to this season. Always a fan!

Love you Linda!   :luvya:


I vote let's try for 24 hours to be SURE that there is ONE NICE COMMENT in every post.


And I might survive!   :ghug:
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 25, 2023, 12:10:17 AM
I know the message isn't just directed toward me, but I would like to list all of the things I am enjoying route wise, as just because a few things have made me annoyed doesn't mean nothing has been good nor is the negative outweighing the positive.

Positives:
1. The Starting Line in the US
2. A task outside the Starting Line location in Starting Line city (LA)
3. Very likely that there were multiple flights from LA to Bangkok
4. Bangkok being the first leg
5. A new city in Vietnam
6. Jaipur being visited for the first time by any English speaking series in 12 years (almost 15 with the US edition)
7. All three countries so far are countries where the Race usually gets entertaining legs

I think the season is gonna be good, will the route be disappointing... well we will just have to see.
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Post by: Joberio on June 25, 2023, 12:39:06 AM
I think the season is gonna be good, will the route be disappointing... well we will just have to see.
For me, the route and tasks make no difference as to whether or not I like a season. It's the boot order for me.  TAR35's started with potential, but then went off the rails quickly.  I want a good, gender-diverse, race-diverse, and age-diverse group of teams to get far.  If we get anything like TAR35's endgame, then count me out.  The men's casting, in particular, has Canada 3 potential, which I do not want!
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Post by: TARFansurvivor on June 25, 2023, 03:18:55 AM
Iam happy for this so far.
1. A task at the start of the Season
2. Bangkok as first city ( really hoping for a night leg there)
3. 13 teams ( Thinks that is a good amount)
4. If they go with non-elemination
5. If we get 90 minuttes episode
6. A New city in Vietnam
 :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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Post by: tarflyonthewall on June 25, 2023, 05:58:45 AM
My main problems with the route so far are (1) Thailand legs are invariably chaotic in a way that makes late-season legs work because you can focus on the hellish experiences everyone is having, but Thailand legs early in the season tend to suffer under the weight of having to handle so many teams at once, and (2) it doesn't fill me with confidence that Vietnam did six seasons of their version with almost entirely domestic routes and never visited Can Tho at all, which makes me think it's not the most exciting place you can find in that country if you want to avoid Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi.
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Post by: kyleisalive on June 25, 2023, 06:39:41 AM
which makes me think it's not the most exciting place you can find in that country if you want to avoid Ho Chi Minh City and Hanoi.

Look at pictures of Shanghai from 1990 vs. now.  Cities can change fast.
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 25, 2023, 06:44:58 AM
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Post by: danielnc on June 25, 2023, 06:48:01 AM
Is there a fairly high confidence level that 2 and 4 are actual legs? Is there a chance that some of the countries still have incoming visitors wait extra time for clearing COVID protocols, and this race is just slow-moving?
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Post by: Jjw26 on June 25, 2023, 10:24:58 AM
Is there a fairly high confidence level that 2 and 4 are actual legs?
Yes.
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Post by: kyleisalive on June 25, 2023, 10:47:21 AM
Is there a fairly high confidence level that 2 and 4 are actual legs? Is there a chance that some of the countries still have incoming visitors wait extra time for clearing COVID protocols, and this race is just slow-moving?

COVID protocols are extremely minimal in most international destinations if there are any at all anymore.  It should be expected that any COVID protocol being performed are solely at production's discretion should they see a need.
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Post by: Jack3257 on June 25, 2023, 12:26:14 PM
Couple of theories as to the three double-legs:
1) With 13 teams, it is more expensive to transport all the teams from one place to another.
2) With the longer legs, that may be eating up budget.
3) Due to the writers strike, they may need more episodes than usual.
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 25, 2023, 12:50:13 PM
Couple of theories as to the three double-legs:
1) With 13 teams, it is more expensive to transport all the teams from one place to another.
2) With the longer legs, that may be eating up budget.
3) Due to the writers strike, they may need more episodes than usual.

Excellent post, thank you for the perspective. I can't deny I would have preferred even just removing one of the Thailand-Vietnam legs and flying them down to Singapore, just to break it up.

But boy do I love this cast - lots of diversity.
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 25, 2023, 12:55:28 PM
PLEASE POST THOUGHTFUL HELPFUL TAR POSTS in the DISCUSSION of spoilers  THREAD and don't waste it in this thread?

ALL current TAR POSTS are very welcome! Thank you!
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 25, 2023, 01:02:42 PM
Such wonderful age diversity on this cast. Almost half are over-40 (or almost 40 in the case of Todd & Ashlie).
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Post by: I ♥ TAR on June 25, 2023, 01:07:28 PM
I love that we suddenly have two 40+ FF teams in this cast.  :conf:  :luvya: :cheer:
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 25, 2023, 01:08:53 PM
I love that we suddenly have two 40+ FF teams in this cast.  :conf:  :luvya: :cheer:

Andrea & Malaina are the oldest FF team since Kate & Pat in season 12. THAT is just how long the drought has been!
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Post by: Maanca on June 25, 2023, 01:18:51 PM
Very happy with the age variety in this cast! It feels more akin to the casting of the early seasons.
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on June 25, 2023, 01:21:33 PM
Very happy with the age variety in this cast! It feels more akin to the casting of the early seasons.

Agreed. So did the season that filmed at the end of last year actually, we had 9 of 26 over-40 there too and technically more over-50 there than this season. Very pleased with casting for our next two seasons! Long may it continue!
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Post by: fossil-racer on June 25, 2023, 01:24:25 PM
I loved this cast since the day it filmed. Glad we figured everyone out and have 2 older FF teams!!
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Post by: yellow223 on June 25, 2023, 01:41:54 PM
So they’ve been in Jaipur since 6/22? They gotta be moving somewhere else today. I’m hoping for some more sightings today.
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Post by: cole1024 on June 25, 2023, 01:45:18 PM
Now that the entire cast has been identified, here are the relationships this season:

3 parent/child (Rob/Corey, Elizabeth/Iliana, Steve/Anna), 3 couples (Joe/Ian, Jocelyn/Victor, Todd/Ashleigh), 4 siblings (Lena/Morgan, Alexandra/Sheridan, Greg/John, Liam/Yeremi), and 3 friends (Andrea/Malaina, Joel/Garrett, Robbin/Chelsea)

They definitely leaned more into family teams this season as opposed to couples which I like and prefer a lot
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Post by: Jjw26 on June 25, 2023, 01:48:22 PM
They definitely leaned more into family teams this season as opposed to couples which I like and prefer a lot
Joy Gordo left the casting team for this season and they forgot how to cast dating couples lol
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 25, 2023, 01:59:14 PM
I think the season is gonna be good, will the route be disappointing... well we will just have to see.
For me, the route and tasks make no difference as to whether or not I like a season. It's the boot order for me.  TAR35's started with potential, but then went off the rails quickly.  I want a good, gender-diverse, race-diverse, and age-diverse group of teams to get far.  If we get anything like TAR35's endgame, then count me out.  The men's casting, in particular, has Canada 3 potential, which I do not want!
I wasn't saying that if the route is bad that the season will be bad. Example is season 14, I love the season, but the route is mostly overused countries with a few new locations.

If a route is good, it just adds bonus points to the season. And yes, boot order makes the biggest difference in a season's quality.
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Post by: cole1024 on June 25, 2023, 02:03:17 PM
Looking at the data it actually is interesting how different this cast is from the past few:

Season 35 (or whatever that season ends up being lol): 5/13 or 6/13 couples (38% or 46%)
Season 34: 8/12 couples (67%)
Season 33: 5/11 couples (45%)

This season only has 3/13 couples (23%). I wonder if that was a conscious decision by the casting team/production.
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Post by: danielnc on June 25, 2023, 03:07:40 PM
Is there a fairly high confidence level that 2 and 4 are actual legs?
Yes.
OK, thanks!
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Post by: Avid on June 25, 2023, 06:22:57 PM
Wow,back to back :groan:
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Post by: JegoKelvin on June 25, 2023, 10:12:55 PM
Longtime TAR Superfan.  Watched every US, Canadian, Australian and Asian version.

Can I just say. I am so thrilled for this Season.
Back to normal filming. Goodbye charter!

I’ve dreamed of 90-minute episodes, since I think 60 minutes is not enough…It’s never enough! This would further allow us to get to know the teams more, the see the country even more and include scenes that may be limited as extra scenes uploaded on Youtube. The last time I saw such practice was TAR 25 - 27.
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Post by: Maanca on June 25, 2023, 10:15:54 PM
Welcome, JegoKelvin!
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 25, 2023, 10:17:25 PM
Longtime TAR Superfan.  Watched every US, Canadian, Australian and Asian version.

Can I just say. I am so thrilled for this Season.
Back to normal filming. Goodbye charter!

I’ve dreamed of 90-minute episodes, since I think 60 minutes is not enough…It’s never enough! This would further allow us to get to know the teams more, the see the country even more and include scenes that may be limited as extra scenes uploaded on Youtube. The last time I saw such practice was TAR 25 - 27.
Agree fully! Welcome JegoKelvin! :bigwelcome
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Post by: JegoKelvin on June 25, 2023, 10:20:34 PM
Longtime TAR Superfan.  Watched every US, Canadian, Australian and Asian version.

Can I just say. I am so thrilled for this Season.
Back to normal filming. Goodbye charter!

I’ve dreamed of 90-minute episodes, since I think 60 minutes is not enough…It’s never enough! This would further allow us to get to know the teams more, the see the country even more and include scenes that may be limited as extra scenes uploaded on Youtube. The last time I saw such practice was TAR 25 - 27.
Agree fully! Welcome JegoKelvin! :bigwelcome

Welcome, JegoKelvin!

Thank you!! I've seen many great things on this forum. I am happy to be active (finally LOL), only a lurker before.
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Post by: JegoKelvin on June 25, 2023, 10:38:36 PM
Now that the entire cast has been identified, here are the relationships this season:

3 parent/child (Rob/Corey, Elizabeth/Iliana, Steve/Anna), 3 couples (Joe/Ian, Jocelyn/Victor, Todd/Ashleigh), 4 siblings (Lena/Morgan, Alexandra/Sheridan, Greg/John, Liam/Yeremi), and 3 friends (Andrea/Malaina, Joel/Garrett, Robbin/Chelsea)

They definitely leaned more into family teams this season as opposed to couples which I like and prefer a lot

Such a beautiful cast reminiscent of the old TAR days. It's people doing extraordinary things. 2 F/F's over 40. I waited a long time for this.
3 Parent Child Teams! The return of the Mother/Daughter. Sadly early boot. Father/Daughter gives off Gary/Mallory vibes.

My only minor comment, is the abundance of M/M Teams. Would swap out one of the Brothers Team in favor of maybe a Team of Middle-Eastern or Pacific Islander descent (for even more diversity), Mother & Son or a Young Fit FF (need a FF to win again). We have yet to see Aunt/Nephew, Aunt/Niece, Uncle/Niece, Uncle/Nephew on the US Version

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Post by: georgiapeach on June 25, 2023, 11:26:29 PM
Longtime TAR Superfan.  Watched every US, Canadian, Australian and Asian version.

Can I just say. I am so thrilled for this Season.
Back to normal filming. Goodbye charter!

I’ve dreamed of 90-minute episodes, since I think 60 minutes is not enough…It’s never enough! This would further allow us to get to know the teams more, the see the country even more and include scenes that may be limited as extra scenes uploaded on Youtube. The last time I saw such practice was TAR 25 - 27.
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Post by: angelbaby09 on June 26, 2023, 06:36:47 AM
do you guys think filming will be much longer this season compared to last 3 season?
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Post by: Leafsfan on June 26, 2023, 08:55:22 AM
do you guys think filming will be much longer this season compared to last 3 season?

No
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Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on June 26, 2023, 09:06:47 AM
I don’t mind the double legs as long as the tasks are good and the legs are long. Staying in the same city is really offputting though. Hoping they squeeze a lot of countries in the end game with less teams.
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 26, 2023, 03:58:43 PM
If the next leg is in Germany.... cricket.

Hopefully it's around the Cologne or Hamburg area, as those are the two huge cities that have been the least-visited. A new city would also be great. Then, teams could take a train and have a leg in rural Denmark. That would be cool.
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Post by: Malcooolm on June 26, 2023, 04:39:13 PM
I swear to Phil if the next leg is in France, I am throwing a tantrum  :groan:
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Post by: bobibo01 on June 26, 2023, 04:43:35 PM
I swear to Phil if the next leg is in France, I am throwing a tantrum  :groan:

I know that I should just be happy for another season, but they have away more exciting Europe countries that they could choose from. + sneaking a new one like Bulgaria for example. I mean, still possible, and at least we are getting a new city.
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on June 26, 2023, 04:44:40 PM
Germany! 🇩🇪

I'm hoping they could visit Weisbaden / Frankfurt / Cologne / Black Forest.  :conf:
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Post by: Joberio on June 26, 2023, 05:22:10 PM
Germany! 🇩🇪

I'm hoping they could visit Weisbaden / Frankfurt / Cologne / Black Forest.  :conf:
I want to see Heidelberg, Wurzburg, or Mannheim.  I was a military brat, and when my dad was in the Army, those were all old stomping grounds of mine.
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Post by: kyleisalive on June 26, 2023, 05:41:27 PM
Would love to see a Black Forest visit.  It would probably break the boards here if they not only went there, but crossed over to Strasbourg and visited France.  Never-before-visited, but clearly by the reactions in here, dreaded.

Beautiful part of the world.  Been there and would love to go back.
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Post by: Parovic on June 26, 2023, 05:54:57 PM
I think they may go to Africa?
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Post by: Leafsfan on June 26, 2023, 05:58:25 PM
I think they may go to Africa?

Probably not this season
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Post by: Avid on June 26, 2023, 06:19:49 PM
I feel like this is leg 9,so that leg 10 is Thursday, so that leg 11 is Saturday and  leg 12 monday .it fits the 21 days montra and just short by 2 days, coz it's been 2 per country m :jam:
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Post by: Leafsfan on June 26, 2023, 06:24:15 PM
I feel like this is leg 9,so that leg 10 is Thursday, so that leg 11 is Saturday and  leg 12 monday .it fits the 21 days montra and just short by 2 days, coz it's been 2 per country m :jam:

The timeline/location thread literally have the leg #s. Its not leg 9.
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 26, 2023, 06:44:12 PM
Even though they just went to Germany last season, they're going to a city that's never been visited by an version of the show before (I believe), so I'm not upset with a Cologne visit. It is disappointing to see them visit a country that they just visited last season, but thank god it's a new city. That makes me happy!
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Post by: Joberio on June 26, 2023, 06:47:35 PM
Even though they just went to Germany last season, they're going to a city that's never been visited by an version of the show before (I believe), so I'm not upset with a Cologne visit. It is disappointing to see them visit a country that they just visited last season, but thank god it's a new city. That makes me happy!
Hold on.  They've never been to Cologne before?  I could've sworn that they have.
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on June 26, 2023, 06:48:54 PM
Even though they just went to Germany last season, they're going to a city that's never been visited by an version of the show before (I believe), so I'm not upset with a Cologne visit. It is disappointing to see them visit a country that they just visited last season, but thank god it's a new city. That makes me happy!

Past seasons with Germany always visit Munich & Berlin. But with this never-before visit to Cologne, it's a first for me.  :cheer:
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Post by: Xoruz on June 26, 2023, 06:51:09 PM
Hold on.  They've never been to Cologne before?  I could've sworn that they have.

TAR 19 had teams connect through Cologne on their train to Brussels. This will be the first full Cologne visit. Glad that we are getting more variety with Germany.
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 26, 2023, 06:59:47 PM
Hold on.  They've never been to Cologne before?  I could've sworn that they have.
Yeah, I thought they had too, but only visited once like Hamburg, so I looked it up and yeah no version has been Cologne, much less, the state that Cologne is located: North Rhine-Westphalia.

Past seasons with Germany always visit Munich & Berlin. But with this never-before visit to Cologne, it's a first for me.  :cheer:
I know! It's usually Berlin or Bavaria, so seeing something new just made me joyful. This route was scaring me especially with a Germany visit, but I'm happy it's a new location. New city in Germany and Vietnam! Now, they better stay in North Rhine-Westphalia. I don't want them to board a train to Berlin in the middle of the leg.

Now, I'm just hopeful that production knows that leg 7/8 should be in Denmark and teams take a train from Cologne to somewhere in Denmark. I don't care if it's rural or urban. Copenhagen was cool in 25, I will take it again.

TAR 19 had teams connect through Cologne on their train to Brussels. This will be the first full Cologne visit. Glad that we are getting more variety with Germany.
Oh, well I don't count connections, only if there's a route marker or task will I count it has a visit, so first time!
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Post by: ianthebalance on June 26, 2023, 07:02:05 PM
I wish we could’ve had Cologne earlier in 32 or 34 instead of revisiting Berlin and Munich again but better late than never
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Post by: smiley on June 26, 2023, 07:05:38 PM
They could make mustard in Cologne.
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on June 26, 2023, 07:14:49 PM
They could make mustard in Cologne.

I'm thinking of cologne-making. that's where they originated. Other than the perfume task found in Èze, France since TAR 26.  :tup:
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Post by: Jack3257 on June 26, 2023, 07:45:53 PM
Praying that Germany is just them doing a leg during a Frankfurt connection.
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Post by: angelbaby09 on June 26, 2023, 07:47:16 PM
i think  might go to belguim or netherlands after cologne
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Post by: BourkieBoy on June 26, 2023, 08:00:23 PM
Germany again???  :groan:

What is this? Season 36: The Overused Countries Edition? I suppose at least we're getting a new city in Cologne...
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on June 26, 2023, 08:07:55 PM
Germany again???  :groan:

What is this? Season 36: The Overused Countries Edition? I suppose at least we're getting a new city in Cologne...

And... Can Tho City in Vietnam.
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Post by: JegoKelvin on June 26, 2023, 08:42:32 PM
i think  might go to belguim or netherlands after cologne

Maybe a visit to Luxembourg?
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 26, 2023, 08:57:32 PM
Maybe a visit to Luxembourg?
I wouldn't mind Luxembourg at all. Country should have been visited ages ago.
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Post by: Parovic on June 26, 2023, 09:39:56 PM
Well I am praying there is not a double leg in Germany again
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Post by: JegoKelvin on June 27, 2023, 12:13:11 AM
Maybe a visit to Luxembourg?
I wouldn't mind Luxembourg at all. Country should have been visited ages ago.

It's within proximity by car. Normally, Germany has self-driving legs.
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Post by: TARFansurvivor on June 27, 2023, 08:24:37 AM
So happy that we get Cologne, a cool and beutiful city they have not visit before  :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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Post by: cbacbacba1 on June 27, 2023, 09:22:45 AM
Germany again  :groan: at least it is a new city  :woohoo: Cologne  :cheer:

I would not be surprised if next leg is Belgium or Netherlands. Hopefully teams self-drive across the border rather than transferred by train or plane
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Post by: angelbaby09 on June 27, 2023, 09:51:49 AM
ive been looking for sightings in cologne and still nothing i wonder if they go somewhere or nearby cities in cologne?
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Post by: Jjw26 on June 27, 2023, 10:01:54 AM
ive been looking for sightings in cologne and still nothing i wonder if they go somewhere or nearby cities in cologne?
We don't get much sightings in Germany (we got so little sightings in 34 that we started questioning if Austria was the premiere leg) so I don't expect we'll get anything.
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Post by: Maanca on June 27, 2023, 10:07:35 AM
ive been looking for sightings in cologne and still nothing i wonder if they go somewhere or nearby cities in cologne?
We don't get much sightings in Germany (we got so little sightings in 34 that we started questioning if Austria was the premiere leg) so I don't expect we'll get anything.

Not in Munich, anyway. We got one small sighting in 26. And yeah, nada in 34.

Maybe this city will be more fruitful.
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Post by: Avid on June 27, 2023, 11:49:48 AM
am I the only one that mixes up the names
 "John and Greg"
"Joel and Garret"
Both start with J and G.. Lol I spent 5 minutes not seeing Joel and Garret, when I was supposed to b looking for "John and Greg" :0328:
To make it worse, There like 4 names that start with "jo"  :bump:
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Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 27, 2023, 01:51:42 PM
Pleased to see that the Puget Ladies made it past the midpoint.
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Post by: cole1024 on June 27, 2023, 01:54:15 PM
I'm assuming I'll like both Victor/Jocelyn and Andrea/Malaina, but I really am hoping Andrea/Malaina are the 8th team. It would be great to have 3 FF teams in the final 8 alongside the 3 MM teams and 2 MF teams
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Post by: Joberio on June 27, 2023, 02:34:59 PM
I'm assuming I'll like both Victor/Jocelyn and Andrea/Malaina, but I really am hoping Andrea/Malaina are the 8th team. It would be great to have 3 FF teams in the final 8 alongside the 3 MM teams and 2 MF teams
I think that Andrea & Malaina probably did make it, but you never know.  They're younger (if slightly) and more fit than Victor & Jocelyn, so they could probably stand up to the physical nature a touch more than they could.

But TAR is a game in which anyone can do well if they have the right skillset, so I'm not necessarily going to count out Victor & Jocelyn yet until one of those teams is officially spotted.
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Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 27, 2023, 02:59:26 PM
Here's hoping that the Pit Stop for the Köln leg is the Dom/Cathedral.
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on June 27, 2023, 03:12:08 PM
Here's hoping that the Pit Stop for the Köln leg is the Dom/Cathedral.

I've been looking up Instagram stories with the Cathedral location tagged throughout the day and haven't found anything yet.
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Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 28, 2023, 09:07:53 AM
^

Das ist mir egal because it seems to be the Chocolate Museum instead.
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Post by: Leafsfan on June 28, 2023, 03:12:57 PM
New country  :cheer:
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Post by: cole1024 on June 28, 2023, 03:14:37 PM
Wow Slovenia is a nice surprise!!!  :cheer:
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Post by: Maanca on June 28, 2023, 03:16:51 PM
Finally a new country!

Slovenia, nice one. I've wondered for years why TAR has neglected Balkan Europe so much outside of Greece... Slovenia, Slovakia, Albania, Bosnia, Bulgaria.
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Post by: H_E_L_L_O on June 28, 2023, 03:17:59 PM
Continuing the trend of at least one new country being visited! Could Slovenia be the reason Nepal wasn’t visited, keeping a new country for 37?
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Post by: Xoruz on June 28, 2023, 03:20:02 PM
Can't tell you how happy I am that we are finally getting another Balkan country.
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Post by: tennis33 on June 28, 2023, 03:20:13 PM
Yay!!! I hope Lake Bled gets a visit
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Post by: cole1024 on June 28, 2023, 03:21:07 PM
I honestly think the route is decent, especially if the legs in each country aren't linear/as short as the past few seasons. Now just hoping we have a good boot order too
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Post by: LandonM170 on June 28, 2023, 03:52:34 PM
SLOVENIA!!!! Now, this is what I'm talking about! I don't know if it needs 2 legs (and it's not even confirmed), but I'm happy nonetheless! Ooh, a self-drive would be amazing for the 2 legs!!
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Post by: QuizMan92 on June 28, 2023, 03:54:05 PM
Wow, didn’t expect to get any countries I predicted, let alone a new one. Does this mean Africa could be next? (What leg is this, again? I lost count)
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on June 28, 2023, 03:54:37 PM
So excited to see a new country! :conf: I wouldn't even mind if we get 2 legs in Slovenia since it's taken them 36 seasons to finally visit for some reason!

So when do we think the leg will take place? When should we start looking for sightings?

I could see them going to Ljubljana Castle and maybe riding the funicular. The Dragon Bridge I think has a good chance to be visited. Lake Bled is only about a 45-minute drive away so I think they have a good chance to visit there. The Church in the middle of the lake has gone viral on Travel TikTok the past few months so I could definitely see them visiting that too.
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Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 28, 2023, 04:13:27 PM
The route for Race Across the World 4: Celebrity Edition meets its (Slovene) match after all.
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on June 28, 2023, 04:32:30 PM
Finally! We have a new country and it's one of my favorites! Ljubljana, Slovenia 🇸🇮 :cheer:
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Post by: angelbaby09 on June 28, 2023, 04:34:49 PM
i hope we get a lot of sightings from slovenia
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Post by: Malcooolm on June 28, 2023, 06:03:16 PM
Bulgaria!!!  :cheer: :luvya:
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on June 28, 2023, 06:35:26 PM
My prayers are answered hoping for Slovenia and there you go!  :luvya:
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Post by: Malcooolm on June 28, 2023, 07:09:00 PM
Bulgaria!!!  :cheer: :luvya:
I don't know how Slovenia became Bulgaria in my mind! This reaction was for Slovenia lmao
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Post by: JegoKelvin on June 28, 2023, 07:13:24 PM
Slovenia!

I am very happy. It’s been so long that it deserves a visit. Definitely deserves a x2 for its inaugural visit.

I am one that gets very excited about European legs. So many countries, cities, locations left unvisited.

If they were to go further down after Slovenia, there’s Montenegro, North Macedonia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Albania, Kosovo, Bosnia & Herzegovina if we are to close the last 2 legs.

If westward, Andorra’s there.

If north, Lavia

For returnees, I would love to see Ireland, Finland, Hungary, Romania visited.
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Post by: mshortle1996 on June 28, 2023, 07:40:22 PM
Nice to see Slovenia! Nice to see them go to another country unvisited in the US version!

Let's hope for Bulgaria next!
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Post by: cbacbacba1 on June 28, 2023, 07:45:31 PM
Slovenia  :cheer: have been dreamt to see TAR visit there
It is such a beautiful country and offer many things to do (Postojna cave, Lake Bled, biking in Ljubljana, and the seaside city of Piran)
TAR should have do it long ago instead of Switzerland, which offer very similar view

I visited Ljubljana in 2018, it is definitely one of the most amazing travel experience of me

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Post by: LandonM170 on June 28, 2023, 08:01:00 PM
If westward, Andorra’s there.
I remember during 34 thinking they would visit Andorra since we didn't get sightings for the rural France leg. God, that missed opportunity. :'(
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Post by: Joberio on June 28, 2023, 08:02:05 PM
Happy as I am at a new country, will we get sightings?  We don't exactly have spies living there, do we?
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Post by: Parovic on June 28, 2023, 09:04:29 PM
Wait so Bulgaria is visited or no

I am confused
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on June 28, 2023, 09:12:47 PM
Wait so Bulgaria is visited or no

I am confused

not yet. but might be part of it very very soon. hopefully. :tup:
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Post by: Maanca on June 28, 2023, 09:14:00 PM
Wait so Bulgaria is visited or no

I am confused

Not yet, anyway. But Slovenia's got a half a dozen untouched countries right around it, so it'll be interesting to see where they go from here.
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Post by: Parovic on June 28, 2023, 09:18:24 PM
I see

I hope it is Bosnia or North Macedonia
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Post by: JegoKelvin on June 28, 2023, 10:11:40 PM
Slovenia  :cheer: have been dreamt to see TAR visit there
It is such a beautiful country and offer many things to do (Postojna cave, Lake Bled, biking in Ljubljana, and the seaside city of Piran)
TAR should have do it long ago instead of Switzerland, which offer very similar view

I visited Ljubljana in 2018, it is definitely one of the most amazing travel experience of me

Exactly, it's dubbed one of Europe's greenest countries, not to mention one of Europe's underrated "adventure" countries. I am beyond thrilled to see it.
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Post by: BourkieBoy on June 29, 2023, 05:00:04 AM
Now this is what I am taking about! Slovenia! A new country! This is exactly what TAR should be about! Exploring new places, not revisiting old haunts!

Very, very, very excited for this leg! Europe is my favorite continent for TAR to visit, because the cinematography is always awe inspiring!
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Post by: TARFansurvivor on June 29, 2023, 05:18:21 AM
Cologne and now Slovenia  :conf: :conf: :conf:
So happy!!
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Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 29, 2023, 07:58:52 AM
So ein Pech that the Philly Ladies will miss out on the new nation.
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on June 29, 2023, 02:26:30 PM
I really wonder where they went in Ljubljana. I've been looking through stories and haven't found anything.
I'm pretty sure the leg finished a bit ago, Phil has been active on Instagram promoting Tough as Nails lol..
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Post by: Parasparopagraho on June 29, 2023, 03:50:02 PM
Redditor "LeseniVojak" saw filming out in the Slovene countryside.
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on June 29, 2023, 04:19:04 PM
Redditor "LeseniVojak" saw filming out in the Slovene countryside.

Lol no wonder I didn't see anything in Ljubljana. That makes sense if this is a rural Slovenia leg.
Just looking at the scenery, the vibe for this leg is giving me 'Adventure Leg' vibes like TAR33 leg 6 in Corsica or TAR31 Switzerland leg 7.
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 30, 2023, 02:42:24 AM
Redditor "LeseniVojak" saw filming out in the Slovene countryside.

Can you provide the link please?
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Post by: rtvguy5750 on June 30, 2023, 04:47:20 AM
Redditor "LeseniVojak" saw filming out in the Slovene countryside.

Can you provide the link please?

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheAmazingRace/comments/14lsbvf/tar_36_location_spoiler/jq1f8ft/?context=3

i've DM'd them for more info, looks like they are from Slovenia
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 30, 2023, 07:29:32 AM
Redditor "LeseniVojak" saw filming out in the Slovene countryside.

Can you provide the link please?

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheAmazingRace/comments/14lsbvf/tar_36_location_spoiler/jq1f8ft/?context=3

i've DM'd them for more info, looks like they are from Slovenia

Looks great1 Thank you!
"Saw the filming today in Kranjska gora & Planica.'
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Post by: Jjw26 on June 30, 2023, 07:50:15 AM
For all the things to do there:
https://www.nc-planica.si/ (https://www.nc-planica.si/)
It was definitely a zip line task since that's what was closed yesterday.
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Post by: Jjw26 on June 30, 2023, 07:56:50 AM
Phil just did a live radio show interview so the 2nd leg Slovenia probably isn't today

https://t.co/KXOy543GMP
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Post by: georgiapeach on June 30, 2023, 07:56:56 AM
For all the things to do there:
https://www.nc-planica.si/ (https://www.nc-planica.si/)
It was definitely a zip line task since that's what was closed yesterday.

yes but I am still always looking for two options!  :sera:
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Post by: angelbaby09 on June 30, 2023, 07:58:10 AM
Im thinking they will focus more on ljubljana for the next leg? It seems like they focus more on the countryside of slovenia in leg 8.
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Post by: cbacbacba1 on June 30, 2023, 12:00:52 PM
Im thinking they will focus more on ljubljana for the next leg? It seems like they focus more on the countryside of slovenia in leg 8.
Ljubljana is a such a small capital city that is hard to offer things that can hold a full leg. Maybe a roadblock involving cycling within the city but definitely not the whole leg there. Hopefully they will travel to the coastal city of Piran.
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Post by: cole1024 on June 30, 2023, 12:08:58 PM
I don't know if it's just me but this does seem like a pretty unique final 7. Season 34 was basically all young MF teams alongside an alpha bro MM team and then Emily/Molly. Whereas this season has 2 parent/child teams still in, 2 FF teams, an older MM team, and a married couple.

Really rooting for Morgan/Lena and Robbin/Chelsea to survive these Slovenia legs!
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Post by: rtvguy5750 on June 30, 2023, 04:01:58 PM
so....is it mean to say i'm glad they now can't visit France?
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Post by: Parovic on June 30, 2023, 05:37:29 PM
I doubt they go to west or north after Slovenia

It makes sense they head to south

Like Italy/Balkans
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Post by: mshortle1996 on June 30, 2023, 06:13:28 PM
I doubt they go to west or north after Slovenia

It makes sense they head to south

Like Italy/Balkans

Someone suggested Algeria because it's a Level 2 threat on the US Travel Advisory. I doubt it but never say never.
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Post by: TeamPlayerAlltheWay on June 30, 2023, 06:47:34 PM
Now seeing they finally visit Slovenia, idk why they still decided to do a leg in Germany, they can skip Germany and go straight to Slovenia, and then they can move around Balkans, like Slovakia, Bosnia, Bulgaria or even go to Baltics. But im excited at least they visited a new city in Germany and Vietnam, things are slowly becoming normal again (by TAR standard) and all teams remaining are older and not majority co-ed couples, bcs im tired since season 27 (other than strangers Brooke and Scott) all the winners are couples. Now im just hoping for fights between teams and no  big alliance forming
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Post by: Joberio on June 30, 2023, 08:17:20 PM
I don't know if it's just me but this does seem like a pretty unique final 7. Season 34 was basically all young MF teams alongside an alpha bro MM team and then Emily/Molly. Whereas this season has 2 parent/child teams still in, 2 FF teams, an older MM team, and a married couple.
You left out one.  A sibling team (of brothers), as well.
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Post by: Parovic on June 30, 2023, 10:04:01 PM
I doubt they go to west or north after Slovenia

It makes sense they head to south

Like Italy/Balkans

Someone suggested Algeria because it's a Level 2 threat on the US Travel Advisory. I doubt it but never say never.
Possible

There's very low chance they visit Spain/Portugal/Scandinavia

Tbh this season may be a little bit similar to the combination of 15 and 24
So I really do hope another Balkan/Bulgaria/Romania get visited
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Post by: JegoKelvin on June 30, 2023, 11:00:07 PM
I don't know if it's just me but this does seem like a pretty unique final 7. Season 34 was basically all young MF teams alongside an alpha bro MM team and then Emily/Molly. Whereas this season has 2 parent/child teams still in, 2 FF teams, an older MM team, and a married couple.

Really rooting for Morgan/Lena and Robbin/Chelsea to survive these Slovenia legs!

It is indeed a pretty unique Final 7. A breath of fresh air. The "fitter" MM Teams leave early, I'm surprised. The Race is unpredictable, hope the tasks are harder.
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Post by: JegoKelvin on June 30, 2023, 11:08:19 PM
I doubt they go to west or north after Slovenia

It makes sense they head to south

Like Italy/Balkans

Someone suggested Algeria because it's a Level 2 threat on the US Travel Advisory. I doubt it but never say never.
Possible

There's very low chance they visit Spain/Portugal/Scandinavia

Tbh this season may be a little bit similar to the combination of 15 and 24
So I really do hope another Balkan/Bulgaria/Romania get visited

Slovenia would be the 96th country visited on TAR as Jordan (S.34) - 93rd, Barbados & Dominican Republic (S.35) - 94th & 95th.
We are close to 100 countries on the US TAR. Can't wait. If there are 3 legs left, excluding the Finale, they can visit 2 (assuming Slovenia is x2) or 3 more new countries (assuming Slovenia is just x1). Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, Bulgaria, North Macedonia, Albania, Serbia and Kosovo are top contenders.



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Post by: PikaBelleChu on July 01, 2023, 02:36:25 AM
I might think that after Slovenia, the next three legs to look forward to are: Latvia, Italy, and Sweden. :tup:
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 01, 2023, 06:30:50 AM
Seems like we have yet another leg of no team being spotted  :'(
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Post by: angelbaby09 on July 01, 2023, 06:35:13 AM
Seems like we have yet another leg of no team being spotted  :'(
crying!!! hoping for more sighting next leg
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Post by: Joberio on July 01, 2023, 06:58:18 AM
Seems like we have yet another leg of no team being spotted  :'(
Shouldn't it only have just started?
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 01, 2023, 07:00:42 AM
Shouldn't it only have just started?
It's 2 PM in Slovenia so no
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Post by: JegoKelvin on July 01, 2023, 07:18:36 AM
This is one season I've seen here where the spoilers are scarce. The other seasons had lots. I hope we get more in the coming days. No luck searching on my end.
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Post by: Parovic on July 01, 2023, 07:20:37 AM
I might think that after Slovenia, the next three legs to look forward to are: Latvia, Italy, and Sweden. :tup:
I think it is a double leg in same country tbh
Unless they do a mega leg
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Post by: Parasparopagraho on July 01, 2023, 09:22:33 AM
so....is it mean to say i'm glad they now can't visit France?

Nah, because it would've just been some lame Parisian and/or Provencal retread.

Alas, the Puget Ladies have now become the last hope - here's to them following in the Roller Derby Moms' footsteps at bare minimum.
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on July 01, 2023, 10:16:36 AM
I neeeeed Robbin & Chelsea to pull through and get as far as possible. And I'm sorry but I need the next boot or two to be one of the M/M teams.
With seeing the most recent elimination I'm getting very very worried for this season's boot order...... if we end up with an M/M final 3  :'(
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Post by: kyleisalive on July 01, 2023, 10:53:27 AM
I'm into the idea of an all-M/M final three.  TAR US has literally never had one, so it shouldn't feel like a retread.

Also there's still time for France-- they literally backtracked to hit Slovenia.  Fingers crossed for a leg like in TAR32 where the team standings were super dynamic.
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 01, 2023, 11:04:49 AM
Also there's still time for France
Have you seen what's going on there right now? No way TAR risks their safety by going there
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Post by: kyleisalive on July 01, 2023, 11:16:37 AM
Also there's still time for France
Have you seen what's going on there right now? No way TAR risks their safety by going there

Calais and Dunkirk have seemed to be pretty quiet (and would be prime spots for unique historical challenges) and would be easy departure points to cross the Channel.
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Post by: TriciCriti on July 01, 2023, 11:24:47 AM
Sorry,after 7 visits in 9 seasons,France is the worst choice I would ever imagine.
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Post by: cole1024 on July 01, 2023, 11:32:25 AM
Come on underdogs Robbin/Chelsea!!  :cheer:

REALLY bummed about Morgan and Lena :(
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Post by: Avid on July 01, 2023, 11:37:08 AM
Am just curious!  Will rff cover the finale if its all m/m?. I get the sense that if its all m/m ,very few people will pay attention on finale night. Leaving us with no spoilers :jam:

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Post by: Joberio on July 01, 2023, 11:39:15 AM
I'm into the idea of an all-M/M final three.  TAR US has literally never had one, so it shouldn't feel like a retread.
Canada and Latin America have had one each, and both seasons were much maligned because of it.  I can see this season being the same if that happens.
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Post by: JegoKelvin on July 01, 2023, 11:41:15 AM
Come on underdogs Robbin/Chelsea!!  :cheer:

REALLY bummed about Morgan and Lena :(

Ah shocks. Would love for a FF Team to win again. It has been 11 Seasons since we last had one. Raquel & Cayla and Emily & Molly came close in S.33 and S.34. Both were proof that the US TAR can cast strong FF's in recent seasons. I'm hoping Robbin & Chelsea can echo Mona & Beth making the Finale but winning.

I also would love any of the Parent/Child Teams to win. Rob & Corey or Steve & Anna.
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 01, 2023, 11:42:21 AM
Am just curious!  Will rff cover the finale if its all m/m?. I get the sense that if its all m/m ,very few people will pay attention on finale night. Leaving us with no spoilers :jam:
RFF will cover it, doesn't mean we'll enjoy ourselves during it.
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Post by: Avid on July 01, 2023, 11:49:29 AM
I'm into the idea of an all-M/M final three.  TAR US has literally never had one, so it shouldn't feel like a retread.
Canada and Latin America have had one each, and both seasons were much maligned because of it.  I can see this season being the same if that happens.
This would be the most unexpected final 3 mm if it happens.  They are definitely not young like Canada, so people would be more interested in it.  Coz they are underdogs.  It would be worse if it was the Two eliminated m/m :duno:
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Post by: kyleisalive on July 01, 2023, 11:50:45 AM
I'm into the idea of an all-M/M final three.  TAR US has literally never had one, so it shouldn't feel like a retread.
Canada and Latin America have had one each, and both seasons were much maligned because of it.  I can see this season being the same if that happens.

So it's just on arbitrary principle... or...?
I say let the best team win.
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Post by: cole1024 on July 01, 2023, 12:06:27 PM
It seems like they have no problem casting more MM teams than FF teams on a particular season (seasons 33/36), so why can't they do the same with FF teams? I'm getting a little tired of it seeming like the odds are stacked against FF teams every season.
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Post by: ianthebalance on July 01, 2023, 12:08:09 PM
I'm into the idea of an all-M/M final three.  TAR US has literally never had one, so it shouldn't feel like a retread.
Canada and Latin America have had one each, and both seasons were much maligned because of it.  I can see this season being the same if that happens.

So it's just on arbitrary principle... or...?
I say let the best team win.

Just ignore these types of statements like most of us do (it won’t lead to changing anyone’s mind)
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Post by: kyleisalive on July 01, 2023, 12:33:07 PM
I'm into the idea of an all-M/M final three.  TAR US has literally never had one, so it shouldn't feel like a retread.
Canada and Latin America have had one each, and both seasons were much maligned because of it.  I can see this season being the same if that happens.

So it's just on arbitrary principle... or...?
I say let the best team win.

Just ignore these types of statements like most of us do (it won’t lead to changing anyone’s mind)

Totally fair.  I just hate seeing those be the only comments on the board as a result.  ;)
It's like the France thing.
Creating a full-scale show like TAR is no easy task.  Any show, for that matter.  And bundling that in with the logistics that need to come together with it is majorly difficult.  The flac that TAR gets thrown by people is mind-boggling; if the show needs to hit easier countries, like France, for the sake of cohesive development, I'm happy to see it again-- France is vast, beautiful, and interesting, and the show hits a lot of different regions throughout it.  But it seems like everyone's lived there their entire lives and has seen it all, so maybe I'm the outlier.   :duno:

Either way, excited to see the season pan out regardless of the finalists.  Fingers crossed they hit France or, if not that, Italy.  Gimme a leg near Cinque-Terre.  TAR's still never seen the Leaning Tower.  Or Naples and Amalfi!
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 01, 2023, 05:27:55 PM
Dads are killing it this season  :funny:

I'm so pleased!

And so are the moms! Respect to Robbin & Chelsea (and Ashlie too!)
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Post by: Parovic on July 01, 2023, 05:59:21 PM
I really do hope they visit

BOSNIA
SERBIA
ALBANIA
NORTH MACEDONIA
MONTENEGRO
BULGARIA
CYPRUS


Any one of these as penultimate legs will be awesome
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on July 01, 2023, 07:10:49 PM
I might think that after Slovenia, the next three legs to look forward to are: Latvia, Italy, and Sweden. :tup:

 :waves:
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Post by: TARFansurvivor on July 02, 2023, 03:43:22 AM
Really hope they went to lake Bled!
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Post by: JegoKelvin on July 02, 2023, 04:17:46 AM
Really hope they went to lake Bled!

I'm hoping as well. It's a short drive from Ljubljana.
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Post by: cbacbacba1 on July 02, 2023, 10:08:08 AM
I hope they visited the Postnjna cave. It is a cool place for just mid-leg route info location.
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Post by: cole1024 on July 02, 2023, 10:08:31 AM
It really is crazy that 3 FF teams went out back to back to back. I’m curious if it was just a coincidence or if the tasks were biased on these last 3 legs

Looks like I’m rooting for Steve/Anna now
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Post by: TriciCriti on July 02, 2023, 10:23:50 AM
It really is crazy that 3 FF teams went out back to back to back. I’m curious if it was just a coincidence or if the tasks were biased on these last 3 legs

Looks like I’m rooting for Steve/Anna now
Same.really wish the father/daughter team could make it to the Final leg.  :'( :'(
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on July 02, 2023, 11:09:21 AM
Genuinely disappointed at this boot order. This might actually end up being one of the worst boot orders in the show. I know that's dramatic but all the F/F teams out this early when we had FOUR is just sad. Every other season where we've had 4 F/F teams a F/F team won. This is only the third season to have so many F/F teams. And they're all out. Meanwhile still 3 M/M teams in......... sigh.

Praying for Steve & Anna Leigh to make the final 3. Please save this season. :'(
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Post by: cole1024 on July 02, 2023, 11:24:21 AM
With only 2 female racers in the final 5, this is the 5th season to have a final 10 racers of 2 women and 8 men:

Season 36 has Ashlie and Anna Leigh

Season 32 had Aparna and Hung

Season 15 had Meghan and Ericka

Season 4 had Kelly and Millie

Season 2 had Tara and Paige

On the other hand, there has NEVER been a season where the final 5 had 8 women and 2 men.
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Post by: I ♥ TAR on July 02, 2023, 11:43:00 AM
Well yes it's unfortunate that FF teams went back to back to back once they hit the Europe but we will still have 7 EPISODES WITH 3 FF TEAMS so it's not that bad I think? There are multiple seasons where FF teams were slaughtered one by one in the earlier legs...

We lost FF teams but we still have 2 parent & child teams in F5, which is first I believe? excluding FE and grandparents with grandchilds.

On the other hand there is real possibility of another first and that's all male F3 which is hopefully not happening.
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Post by: ianthebalance on July 02, 2023, 12:15:41 PM
After all the constant complaining about every little detail this season from people on this site, I hope it’s an all male Final 3. What y’all deserve
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Post by: kyleisalive on July 02, 2023, 12:27:49 PM
After all the constant complaining about every little detail this season from people on this site, I hope it’s an all male Final 3. What y’all deserve

I don't really have any weigh-in on deserving, but if it is all-male, I hope that they're all really enjoyably-portrayed.  That way, they can counter the sacrilege of being all-male that the current sentiment seems to convey.  It seems like how people actually are and how the show actually unfolds is nothing in comparison to the idea of an all-male final three which, again, has never happened in 35 seasons of the U.S. show.

If it were an all-female final three, this wouldn't be the same discussion.
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 02, 2023, 12:38:28 PM
You guys are too much. You post about how toxic this board has become, and then post the above when you know it’s clearly going to get a rise out of people.

Which do you want? Because from where I’m sitting, it looks like there’s a big part of you that are looking for arguments.

You say you don’t like all the moaning, and then proceed to moan about the moaning. This thread is simply here for people to let off some steam, by yes, saying how saddened they are that all the female teams have likely been eliminated. By all means, they’re allowed to say they don’t want to see an all male final. End of. You can then post your own message saying as much as you like all female teams, you don’t mind an all male final three. And that’s where it should end, frankly.

All this outrage at people’s opinions is frankly dull and only serves to raise arguments.

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Post by: ianthebalance on July 02, 2023, 12:47:04 PM
It’s just really annoying to finally have a season again with plane travel, taxi travel, Asia, and a general feeling of lack of restraint on the show now that the pandemic is over yet have complaining about seemingly every little thing from countries, how long in countries, boot order, only 50% POC cast. The fact that we can have a season like this again feels like a miracle and I hope we can all cherish it
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Post by: kyleisalive on July 02, 2023, 12:54:59 PM
It’s just really annoying to finally have a season again with plane travel, taxi travel, Asia, and a general feeling of lack of restraint on the show now that the pandemic is over yet have complaining about seemingly every little thing from countries, how long in countries, boot order, only 50% POC cast. The fact that we can have a season like this again feels like a miracle and I hope we can all cherish it

This is pretty much my sentiment.  I’ve pulled away from other sites (Reddit being one) because there’s a general air of focusing heavily on the ‘do not likes’ of the show.  It’s a frustration to find a niche place to discuss the show only to find that the sentiment is there too.

And I admit it comes from a place of calling it out in the hope that people will realize their concerns are coming from what seem like arbitrary places (which, hey, those are opinions) but I’m not interested in opening the threads to find people telling me that every new season is a bad season before anyone has even seen the show.  As much as this is a spoiler site and there’s a level of knowing how things unfold from a skeletal point of view, these are, at their core, uninformed points of view.  People are throwing the baby out with the bathwater over something they haven’t even experienced yet.  And to me that’s a bit crazy.  People are convinced, and I fully believe they’re convincing no others to think the same.

And at that point, it feels like they’re not in support of the show.

I’ve said it before— creating a thread to bitch and moan in will continually foster an echo chamber of negativity.  I get if it’s felt that people need to have it, but it’s encouraging bitching and moaning more than it is just acting as a place to house it.
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Post by: Leafsfan on July 02, 2023, 12:58:55 PM
Yet you continue to post in this thread, bitching about other people bitching  :lol:

If you don't like it, just don't read this thread.
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 02, 2023, 01:02:35 PM
Kyle, why not stop reading the thread then? You can always start up a new thread in TAR Discussion about the positives of the race and what you’re excited about seeing in 35-36. That could be a good alternative perhaps.

Hope that gives you an idea on how you can change your perception around. Because, you know, this is a bitch, moan and squeal thread. The clue is in the first two. If you want only positives from people to brighten your day, start a new thread in TAR Discussion. Because posting time and time again here, telling people how to feel, and how not to, is a one way ticket to unhappiness and a kind of self-flagellation, frankly.
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 02, 2023, 01:11:22 PM
Maybe splitting this thread into two, one for bitching and moaning and one for squealing/positive only comments, would be best for everyone. You can choose the type of comments you see, positive or negative, while still remaining respective of others and their opinions. The people who keep complaining about seeing negativity can have a place to discuss their own positive thoughts without seeing the negative ones.
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Post by: QuizMan92 on July 02, 2023, 01:16:58 PM
Honestly I would still be happy with a M/M team winning, there’s been a lot of older teams in this cast and it would be cool to see one win. We don’t know team personalities yet, these remaining M/M teams could be pretty funny/entertaining, for all we know (hopefully no 5 team alliances this time)
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Post by: kyleisalive on July 02, 2023, 01:19:30 PM
I think part of my issue here is that the BMS thread is somewhat essential reading at the same time as some items of note are posted here before they're posted in other sections of the forum.  Adversely, some of BMS spills into other threads (Spec being one).

But you're absolutely right, it's on me to ignore sections of the site that don't appeal to me at that cost.  If I can't handle the heat, etc. etc.  It's just a shame to have to remove myself from it.


A couple weeks ago, when similar issues came up, I was told (kindly) that there's a place for all points of view at RFF and that despite all of this, I had valuable feedback and contribution regarding the show and the activities involved.  At the time I was prepared to just abstain from doing anything here-- it really doesn't feel right to come in and expect anyone to change out of that type of negativity.  Like I said, it seems to happen on other boards as well, regardless.  I'm not expecting anyone to listen to my complaints and snap into some sort of understanding.  At the time there was discussion about creating a space for positive feedback about respective seasons, but apparently that might have been on me to organize and run?  I'm not completely sure that's something I have the time to manage.  Simply put, I'm kind of surprised that I'd need to to make it exist.  Apparently the board comes pre-set with BMS, but not the alternative, and that's the norm.


But coming back to my earlier point-- this came up before.  I don't think that there's a world in which I have the restraint to look into the forum and dodge the landmines.  Clearly, I've hit them again.  As nice and easy as that seems, it's the same type of nice and easy that I see behind 'simply not focusing on the negative every time' or 'running with the hypothetical that a season won't be bad for reasons x, y, or z' or 'referring to certain countries as infuriating because we've seen them a couple times'.  In other words, I know myself better than that.  lol

I appreciate the suggestions and the willingness to have a conversation about it, by all means.  But I think this time I'm out; that seems fair.  It's easier to remove myself so that everyone else can enjoy it.

Enjoy the show, guys.  Hope it turns out in the end.  :)
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 02, 2023, 01:31:44 PM
I think part of my issue here is that the BMS thread is somewhat essential reading at the same time as some items of note are posted here before they're posted in other sections of the forum.  Adversely, some of BMS spills into other threads (Spec being one).

But you're absolutely right, it's on me to ignore sections of the site that don't appeal to me at that cost.  If I can't handle the heat, etc. etc.  It's just a shame to have to remove myself from it.


A couple weeks ago, when similar issues came up, I was told (kindly) that there's a place for all points of view at RFF and that despite all of this, I had valuable feedback and contribution regarding the show and the activities involved.  At the time I was prepared to just abstain from doing anything here-- it really doesn't feel right to come in and expect anyone to change out of that type of negativity.  Like I said, it seems to happen on other boards as well, regardless.  I'm not expecting anyone to listen to my complaints and snap into some sort of understanding.  At the time there was discussion about creating a space for positive feedback about respective seasons, but apparently that might have been on me to organize and run?  I'm not completely sure that's something I have the time to manage.  Simply put, I'm kind of surprised that I'd need to to make it exist.  Apparently the board comes pre-set with BMS, but not the alternative, and that's the norm.


But coming back to my earlier point-- this came up before.  I don't think that there's a world in which I have the restraint to look into the forum and dodge the landmines.  Clearly, I've hit them again.  As nice and easy as that seems, it's the same type of nice and easy that I see behind 'simply not focusing on the negative every time' or 'running with the hypothetical that a season won't be bad for reasons x, y, or z' or 'referring to certain countries as infuriating because we've seen them a couple times'.  In other words, I know myself better than that.  lol

I appreciate the suggestions and the willingness to have a conversation about it, by all means.  But I think this time I'm out; that seems fair.  It's easier to remove myself so that everyone else can enjoy it.

Enjoy the show, guys.  Hope it turns out in the end.  :)

Yeah, you’d need to make the thread in TAR Discussion. It’s pretty straight forward to do.

And as for things being posted here before anywhere else, I cannot agree with that. This is a place for opinions only. Not sightings or destinations which are always updated as we see them in their respective threads. If you mean the potential eliminations via social media, that could perhaps be better posted in speculation, and usually is. Here, it’s usually inadvertently posted by someone saddened to see who the latest likely elimination is.

All the best, feel free to post that new 35-36 positives thread elsewhere. It is probably quite a good idea to break the two up in future given what has been said of late. There is no question you will have valuable contributions to the forum, it’s merely the moderating other people’s opinions that isn’t as helpful. The biggest fans of a program have the right to be critical from time to time. Or say they’re saddened to see a boot order, or a route with multiple double legs back to back. They can say this, just as much as they can say they love the cast, and the new cities visited, and the likely harder tasks and longer legs etc.

It’s important to recognise all sides. Everyone here loves the show. Long live TAR.
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on July 02, 2023, 01:51:59 PM
I think ultimately we're all here because we are big fans of The Amazing Race. Let's be real, a casual viewer who catches a season here and there isn't gonna be on this website. We're dedicated viewers who love the show and spend hours every week on this Forum. And with such a love for something, we're going to all have various opinions, some of which might be polarizing. But all they are is opinions and it's totally okay for someone else to have a different opinion than another person.

Because we all love the show so much we just want to see it succeed. Sure, the complaining and bitching might be annoying, but it's not that we hate the show or just love to complain, we just are expressing our opinion and letting our thoughts out on one of the only places on the internet where we can do so. Same goes with the being happy and squealing, this is one of the only places to talk about a currently filming season.

I think we can easily see both sides to this thread throughout this filming cycle

The cast has very good age diversity. We have two 40+ year old F/F teams for the first time in a long while. We have some fun looking blood related and especially Parent/Child teams. We're getting legs in Asia in some very fun locations. We're getting a new country in Slovenia. We're getting 90-minute episodes which will be fun for everyone in the cast to be showcased more. Allegedly longer legs, more tasks, and harder tasks are all fun too. I mean, we're finally back to a worldwide route without a charter for the first time since 2018, that's amazing!!

But at the same time, spending half the season in Asia with x2 country visits for the first 6 episodes is a little disappointing. TAR24 gets negative feedback because the same thing happened there, so it's understandable if that happens here. If they would have taken out just one of the x2 visits of one of Thailand/Vietnam/India and replaced it with a fourth Asian country I think there would have been a lot less complaining. And finally, the cast looks look and I'm sure we're all looking forward to it, but seeing how this boot order is going is not ideal at all. I think it's ok for people to complain and be sad about that. Four F/F teams and they're all out before final 5 is unfortunate.

Ultimately, we're here because we love the show. We don't want any problems with other users, we just all want to be freely able to express our opinions without other people being mad at us for that.
For as long as this show airs there will always be "bitching," "moaning"," and "squealing." But it genuinely does come out of a place of love.
So as Kiwi Jay said in another thread, long live TAR.
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Post by: Maanca on July 02, 2023, 01:59:19 PM
The first half of the route might be good. I did compare it to TAR24 the other day, but much of the front half of that season was substituted last-minute due to an active typhoon season in the Pacific. Substitutes tend to feature rushed and cheaper tasks since presumably much of their money was already spent on the originally planned legs. Don't think we'll have that worry this time.

(That's a concern of 35 as well, but I said my piece in that thread)
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 02, 2023, 02:06:05 PM
The first half of the route might be good. I did compare it to TAR24 the other day
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A lot of what hurt TAR24 was less so the route but the lame and way too easy tasks. We haven't seen much of the tasks this season due to so little sightings, but if the tasks are truly going to be harder this season, then that could make up at least somewhat for the overabundance of double legs.
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Post by: LandonM170 on July 02, 2023, 02:31:54 PM
I'm not reading the rest of the page because I'm not reading arguments back and forth with people, but I will add my opinion :lol:

I have seen NO ONE say, 'this season is gonna be bad because of the bootorder and route.' What people are saying is that it sucks that FF teams, who historical don't do well compared to MM teams, got knocked out back-to-back-to-back in Europe, and the route is revisiting many overused countries. I think it's ridiculous to expect people to shut their mouth, and say nothing negative about the show, as we ALL love this TV show! We want TAR to be the best show it possibly can be, and so if we don't like something, I believe almost all of us, we will voice it! If producers are taking advice from fans, I hope RFF would be the first place they would go. I believe producers have read RFF before, so it's not something that couldn't happen. I would like production to hear what we thinks the flaws of the show are, and try to find a solution for it.

tl,dr: We should voice negative opinions about TAR because we want the show to be the best it possibly can be, and I will say, yes, sometimes we bitch a little too much. Some people have complained that route and bootorder will 'break the season for them' and yes that's ridiculous, but most of us are sane and aren't thinking it.
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Post by: rtvguy5750 on July 02, 2023, 03:13:23 PM
I think, if anything, an all male final 3 (which i don't think will happen or what i want to happen) will at least encourage producers to think twice about stacking the cast with M/Ms in the future
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Post by: Avid on July 02, 2023, 03:48:00 PM
I think, if anything, an all male final 3 (which i don't think will happen or what i want to happen) will at least encourage producers to think twice about stacking the cast with M/Ms in the future
There were 4ff, vs 5 mm.. It's was not mm stacked. it was just one team more.  It wasn't 5mm vs 2ff . It wasn't stacked in my opinion.
This has been a pretty normal cast, I will be happy for whoever wins. They are filming 90minute episodes,so they must b extra tired.. I can't hate the winner regardless .
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Post by: I ♥ TAR on July 02, 2023, 04:14:21 PM
They are constantly casting +1 or even +2 MM teams each season compared to FF teams. The last time when there were more FF teams than MM teams was in TAR25 and before that in TAR17. And these two season are considered one of the best... I wonder why.
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Post by: Zack. on July 02, 2023, 04:14:26 PM
I for one would've welcomed a different route (love Thailand, love Vietnam, love India but still) however given the boot order, it feels like a season like TAR 12 or TAR 14 where some people who aren't on paper a "good Amazing Race team" end up exceeding expectations which could be exciting to see play out live.  :cheer:

Also I for one am glad they did Slovenia x2 instead of Germany x2. :jam:
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Post by: Maanca on July 02, 2023, 10:46:05 PM
I think, if anything, an all male final 3 (which i don't think will happen or what i want to happen) will at least encourage producers to think twice about stacking the cast with M/Ms in the future

Hopefully we avoid that prospect of an all-MM final 3.

I never want to see it happen again after TAR Canada's third season ended with one. It was not an enticing hour to watch, and probably why the next year's cast was 50% FF teams.
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Post by: Avid on July 02, 2023, 11:15:26 PM
The thing about canada 3, was that there were only 3 mm teams ìn the whole cast,who just happened to be top 3 .it wasn't 5mm ,or 4 mm. I really didn't see so many nasty comments about it. I read most comments on YouTube,Facebook and twitter . Infact when it came to voting on who should comeback,  The third team from s.3 got alot of votes to be runners up .
 :groan:
People liked Gino and jesse for eating the 🐛 bugs without a second  thought.
They loved the third team for powering through a panic attack.
They did like the cops for just running their own race .

There was no controversy for s.3 canada even if it was all top 3 m/m.
The only difference between usa and canada  top 3 mm is that usa had 5mm to choose from,but canada had 3/3 mm to chose from.  :welcome:
Am the only one who thinks that the wrestlers jinxed the ff teams .She was pretty upset that it was top 4 and that Amy and maya won.

I personally would love a ff team to win again and overshadow that win ,but am not going to throw stones at another winner simply for being the best.




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Post by: Avid on July 02, 2023, 11:44:09 PM
The only way that a top 3mm in canada could have been avoided was if they'd cast 2 mms. It was 3/3 ,not 3/5 like USA . I don't think canada 3 was controversial  at ALL !!

 I hope we just appreciate  this top 3 coz most of them are dads, something  that has never happened  before . Even though they won't attend parties like the young finalists of tar34 who have been partying since last year lol.  :conf: :conf: :groan:
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Post by: ianthebalance on July 02, 2023, 11:55:06 PM
I recall that there was more controversy  with the final 3 due to all of them stealing taxis in the leg before than all of them being male
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Post by: cole1024 on July 03, 2023, 12:08:41 AM
Like a lot of you said, I really hope casting/production make an effort to cast more FF teams next season! I just don't see the reason why it's so normal for a season to have more MM teams than FF teams but very rare for a season to have more FF teams than MM teams?
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Post by: Joberio on July 03, 2023, 05:17:36 AM
Like a lot of you said, I really hope casting/production make an effort to cast more FF teams next season! I just don't see the reason why it's so normal for a season to have more MM teams than FF teams but very rare for a season to have more FF teams than MM teams?
I think that it's because the core audience of TAR is typically women, and they probably think that women want to see more men on the race than other women.

The thing is, though, that if they'd actually listen to the fans (men and women alike), they'd know that there've been clamors for more women's teams to be cast, particularly from many, many female fans.  But they won't listen.  They almost never do.
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 03, 2023, 11:56:54 AM
I LOVE YOU ALL AND APPRECIATE ALL THIS INPUT 1000%.

Once this one has finished I would love to have a serious discussion as to how we can both improve and also finetune some sites here to help everyone have an even better enjoyable time.

I am open to all suggestions later on...

let's just do it in the down time please!

I LOVE AND APRECIATE EACH ONE OF YOU!! You are my TAR FAMILY!


 :ghug:
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 03, 2023, 11:57:58 AM
Meanwhile please some of this fantastic energy on chasing the race?? Thank you!!
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Post by: Parovic on July 03, 2023, 12:21:38 PM
Will they start Leg 10 today?
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 03, 2023, 12:23:21 PM
Will they start Leg 10 today?
Supposed to be but the weather could've delayed it.
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Post by: Parovic on July 03, 2023, 12:31:35 PM
Will they start Leg 10 today?
Supposed to be but the weather could've delayed it.
So they are still in Slovenia?
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 03, 2023, 02:30:24 PM
So they are still in Slovenia?
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Probably not
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Post by: Malcooolm on July 03, 2023, 04:06:07 PM
Not mad at Sweden! Beautiful country, not too many visits. And it is another country from 33’s original route, though I know that they were gonna visit the Arctic Circle then
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Post by: LandonM170 on July 03, 2023, 04:08:09 PM
Not mad about Sweden. It hasn't made visited in 11 seasons, and that was just a route marker. The last time it property was visited was 19 seasons ago, so it was time for another Sweden visit!
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on July 03, 2023, 04:33:24 PM
Excited for the first full leg in Sweden to take place in the HD era! :cheer:
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Post by: Parovic on July 03, 2023, 04:41:13 PM
Last time they visited Sweden was on in S17?
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on July 03, 2023, 04:59:53 PM
Last time they visited Sweden was on in S17?

They visited it in S25 but only like for 5 minutes in the episode as part of a quick Route Info clue. S17 was the last full leg there.
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on July 03, 2023, 05:15:00 PM
I might think that after Slovenia, the next three legs to look forward to are: Latvia, Italy, and Sweden. :tup:

I'm right!  :conf:

If they're in Sweden, I'm thinking the penultimate leg would be in Ireland / U.K. / Norway. However, I'm also thinking Sweden might have a second leg.  :)x
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Post by: cbacbacba1 on July 03, 2023, 06:08:58 PM
Pray for Finland / Latvia / Estonia next :luvya: An overnight boat ride to each of these countries are very convenient! They also did Sweden - Estonia by boat back in S15. Though the Baltic countries might be too small / have limited flying routes to back to USA  :duno:
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Post by: BourkieBoy on July 03, 2023, 07:15:07 PM
Sweden! Yay! It's been due for a revisit (especially Stockholm) and I'm excited to see another midnight sun leg!  :conf: :cheer:
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Post by: mshortle1996 on July 03, 2023, 07:15:49 PM
They were supposed to have a full leg in Lulea, Sweden back in S33. Then, the start of the COVID pandemic happened.

There are flights to the USA from Stockholm btw.
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Post by: Xoruz on July 03, 2023, 07:31:19 PM
Sweden! Yay! It's been due for a revisit (especially Stockholm) and I'm excited to see another midnight sun leg!  :conf: :cheer:

It's honestly surprising how underutilized Sweden (and the Nordic countries in general) has been. Last full leg in Sweden was TAR 17, and the last leg in Stockholm was TAR 15. We've never even had a full Stockholm leg on TAR US.
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Post by: Parovic on July 03, 2023, 09:16:37 PM
I LOVE THE EUROPEAN LEGS THIS SEASON

The new city in GERMANY
A BRAND NEW COUNTRY SLOVENIA
OVERDUE SWEDEN

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BTW, is Leg 4 confirmed to be in Vietnam?
Could it be somewhere else?
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Post by: Avid on July 03, 2023, 09:42:34 PM
Sweden borders Finland...  Finland  has an AmazingRace  season yet to film ..So I would rule out Finland coz tar usually avoids country's that are affiliated with the franchise  :conf:

Even with canada,Australia, USA, Israel  wrapped up or wrapping up  .we still have Finland.. not complaining lol... :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:
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Post by: Avid on July 03, 2023, 09:47:30 PM
Finland films in July, maybe after Sweden the crew could catch a train and help them out like they did canada .But I doubt it ,they must have there own crew  :conf: :conf:
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Post by: cole1024 on July 03, 2023, 11:25:12 PM
It is pretty unfortunate that outside of the start in LA we basically only have 1 sighting of teams doing an actual task :(
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Post by: Avid on July 04, 2023, 07:25:13 AM
What is really going On, in that race..  This is crazzyy!!
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 04, 2023, 07:48:04 AM
Yesterday in Stockholm was rainy and icky all day, today it's sunny and beautiful. I know the producers are kicking themselves for not waiting a day lmao
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Post by: Parovic on July 04, 2023, 08:26:05 AM
Sweden continues the trend of having 1 overdue country in modern season

S28 - Mexico
S29 - Greece
S30 - Iceland/Czechia
S31 - Croatia
S32 - Kazakhstan
S33 - Portugal
S34 - Spain
S35 - Uruguay
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Post by: yellow223 on July 04, 2023, 08:50:21 AM
Y’all are so focused on team genders, but one more leg and John/Greg would be the first Black people in the final 3 since season 25! That’s pretty exciting and think deserves some attention :)
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Post by: BritishTARFan on July 04, 2023, 08:55:33 AM
Y’all are so focused on team genders, but one more leg and John/Greg would be the first Black people in the final 3 since season 25! That’s pretty exciting and think deserves some attention :)

Jelani from S26!
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 04, 2023, 08:56:55 AM
Y’all are so focused on team genders, but one more leg and John/Greg would be the first Black people in the final 3 since season 25! That’s pretty exciting and think deserves some attention :)
Leticia & Rod made the final 3
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 04, 2023, 08:56:59 AM
They were supposed to have a full leg in Lulea, Sweden back in S33. Then, the start of the COVID pandemic happened.

There are flights to the USA from Stockholm btw.

I had forgotten all about that!! Thanks for sharing the memory!!
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Post by: Avid on July 04, 2023, 09:03:08 AM
Y’all are so focused on team genders, but one more leg and John/Greg would be the first Black people in the final 3 since season 25! That’s pretty exciting and think deserves some attention :)
Since s 18, we haven't had an black m/m in the Finale or top 4
Since s.18 we haven't had an all black team win.
Since s.35 we haven't had an all black team in finale.
And in 50 seasons of the franchise, there have been only 3 black mm in the Finale.. The stats are really telling
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Post by: yellow223 on July 04, 2023, 09:05:38 AM
Y’all are so focused on team genders, but one more leg and John/Greg would be the first Black people in the final 3 since season 25! That’s pretty exciting and think deserves some attention :)
Since s 18, we haven't had an black m/m in the Finale or top 4
Since s.18 we haven't had an all black team win.
Since s.35 we haven't had an all black team in finale.
And in 50 seasons of the franchise, there have been only 3 black mm in the Finale.. The stats are really telling
Exactly!! Sorry for getting some of the numbers wrong - thanks for bringing stats. This show has very little Black representation, especially in later legs.
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Post by: JegoKelvin on July 04, 2023, 09:26:56 AM
Y’all are so focused on team genders, but one more leg and John/Greg would be the first Black people in the final 3 since season 25! That’s pretty exciting and think deserves some attention :)
Leticia & Rod made the final 3

Back to Back F3.
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Post by: Avid on July 04, 2023, 09:39:53 AM
Y’all are so focused on team genders, but one more leg and John/Greg would be the first Black people in the final 3 since season 25! That’s pretty exciting and think deserves some attention :)
Since s 18, we haven't had an black m/m in the Finale or top 4
Since s.18 we haven't had an all black team win.
Since s.35 we haven't had an all black team in finale.
And in 50 seasons of the franchise, there have been only 3 black mm in the Finale.. The stats are really telling
Exactly!! Sorry for getting some of the numbers wrong - thanks for bringing stats. This show has very little Black representation, especially in later legs.
On a positive  note ,2 black female  teams have won Tar in its 50 seasons franchise . One in tar usa and another in tar israel
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Post by: JegoKelvin on July 04, 2023, 10:51:26 AM
I LOVE THE EUROPEAN LEGS THIS SEASON

The new city in GERMANY
A BRAND NEW COUNTRY SLOVENIA
OVERDUE SWEDEN


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BTW, is Leg 4 confirmed to be in Vietnam?
Could it be somewhere else?

As someone's that's very excited about European Legs, this is became an exciting route once it touched Europe, well for me! Love the European continent.
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Post by: TriciCriti on July 04, 2023, 11:25:01 AM
There are only two Father and Daughter teams make it to the finale(Ron&Christina/Gary&Mallory)and only one Father and Son team make it to finale(Dave&Conner).
I'm praying Steve&Anna and Rob&Corey could make history that two parent/child teams are in finale this season.
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Post by: Jack3257 on July 04, 2023, 03:33:21 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed for a Seattle finish!  I feel like it’s the most overdue finale city.
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Post by: Joberio on July 04, 2023, 03:53:40 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed for a Seattle finish!  I feel like it’s the most overdue finale city.
Already been a finale city in TAR3.  Also, it was the starting city of TAR10.
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Post by: QuizMan92 on July 04, 2023, 04:35:23 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed for a Seattle finish!  I feel like it’s the most overdue finale city.
I personally want a Boston finish, but idk how likely it is considering 35 also ended on the east coast. I think the most likely options are east coast, gulf coast/southern, Midwest, or Pacific Northwest. Where? Probably somewhere overdue/never been visited before
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Post by: Malcooolm on July 04, 2023, 04:58:30 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed for a Seattle finish!  I feel like it’s the most overdue finale city.
I personally want a Boston finish, but idk how likely it is considering 35 also ended on the east coast. I think the most likely options are east coast, gulf coast/southern, Midwest, or Pacific Northwest. Where? Probably somewhere overdue/never been visited before
There are a ton of big cities that they haven’t visited yet that I could see them going to. Minneapolis, St. Louis, Charleston, Charlotte, Austin, Indianapolis, Seattle (for the first full leg)…the list is endless!
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 04, 2023, 05:12:46 PM
There are a ton of big cities that they haven’t visited yet that I could see them going to. Minneapolis, St. Louis, Charleston, Charlotte, Austin, Indianapolis, Seattle (for the first full leg)…the list is endless!
Really surprised we haven't gone to the Twin Cities yet for a finale. Especially with it being summer right now, it's the perfect time for them to go.
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Post by: Jack3257 on July 04, 2023, 05:49:47 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed for a Seattle finish!  I feel like it’s the most overdue finale city.
Already been a finale city in TAR3.  Also, it was the starting city of TAR10.

The thing is we’ve never had a legitimate leg in Seattle, since it was when final legs were split between two destinations.
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 04, 2023, 05:51:29 PM
There are a ton of big cities that they haven’t visited yet that I could see them going to. Minneapolis, St. Louis, Charleston, Charlotte, Austin, Indianapolis, Seattle (for the first full leg)…the list is endless!
Really surprised we haven't gone to the Twin Cities yet for a finale. Especially with it being summer right now, it's the perfect time for them to go.

Charleston would be excellent.
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 04, 2023, 05:53:52 PM
The thing is we’ve never had a legitimate leg in Seattle, since it was when final legs were split between two destinations.
But we've never had Boston or St. Louis or The Twin Cities for a finale at all. I think it's about time TÁR should pay those a visit  :)x
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on July 04, 2023, 06:29:44 PM
As long as the finale isn't in Los Angeles I'll be happy lmaooo :funny:

Personally tho I'd like to see Kansas City
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Post by: mshortle1996 on July 04, 2023, 06:41:18 PM
I would love to see Phoenix or Denver as the final destination city as Phoenix was briefly visited for TAR4 and TAR8 and Denver hasn't been revisited since TAR9.
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Post by: cbacbacba1 on July 04, 2023, 06:57:36 PM
For a westward route, the final city is located at:

The east coast: 10, 18, 19, 21, 22, 31
The west coast: 13, 15, 24
Central part: 26

An east coast finale seems to be more possible
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Post by: Zack. on July 04, 2023, 07:07:55 PM
I would not be opposed to a Miami final leg with actual good tasks  :tup:
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Post by: BritishTARFan on July 04, 2023, 07:12:36 PM
I really think we're finally getting a Boston finale, maybe paired with a visit to Cape Cod
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Post by: angelbaby09 on July 04, 2023, 07:47:24 PM
im thinking new york?
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on July 04, 2023, 07:54:16 PM
I'd like Cincinnati, Ohio for a finale finish line.  :cheer:
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Post by: Avid on July 04, 2023, 08:15:00 PM
im thinking new york?
Same
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Post by: Avid on July 04, 2023, 08:20:44 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed for a Seattle finish!  I feel like it’s the most overdue finale city.
I personally want a Boston finish, but idk how likely it is considering 35 also ended on the east coast. I think the most likely options are east coast, gulf coast/southern, Midwest, or Pacific Northwest. Where? Probably somewhere overdue/never been visited before
There are a ton of big cities that they haven’t visited yet that I could see them going to. Minneapolis, St. Louis, Charleston, Charlotte, Austin, Indianapolis, Seattle (for the first full leg)…the list is endless!
U.S bank stadium  would ba  lovely finish line if its minesota  vikings
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Post by: Malcooolm on July 05, 2023, 12:55:10 AM
Even with all of the double legs, this route has a lot of potential to make a great season! Just hoping that we have a great cast!  :conf:
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Post by: ianthebalance on July 05, 2023, 01:15:32 AM
I guessed Dublin for next leg when I saw Stockholm. Yay me lol
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on July 05, 2023, 01:38:11 AM
I guessed Dublin for next leg when I saw Stockholm. Yay me lol
You're not the only one. I guessed it right as well.  :)x
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Post by: LandonM170 on July 05, 2023, 01:51:27 AM
I just knew it was gonna be Dublin!!! Very exciting!!

1 New Country (Slovenia)
2 Undervisited Countries (Sweden & Ireland)
4 New Cities (Cần Thơ, Cologne, Ljubljana, and Dublin, and maybe another in the US)

Route started out rough, but it took a turn for the better, and I'm happy! Route is okay.
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Post by: ianthebalance on July 05, 2023, 02:15:25 AM
Honestly I like the first half of the route. I always really like Thailand, excited for new city of Can Tho, and I always like the desert/semi-arid areas of India
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 05, 2023, 02:37:33 AM
Honestly I like the first half of the route. I always really like Thailand, excited for new city of Can Tho, and I always like the desert/semi-arid areas of India

My only preference would have been to visit a fourth country in Asia within the first six legs. If they had just popped down to Malaysia or Singapore for one of the double legs, frankly, it would be a superb route. Instead, it is very good, but not quite great. I have no doubt we are in for a great season though.

Also - the second leg in Thailand is outside Bangkok. It will be in the Nakhon Pathom province about an hour west of the capital. So technically that is a new area visited also.

I am thrilled with casting - finally we have age diversity and physicality of all 'shapes and sizes' again after the 20s had quite generic casting. As for the three MM potentially in final four, I don't mind it given who the MM teams are, but I would say that I hope WRP/CBS recognises that 37 should have more FF teams than MM. It hardly ever happens and I don't understand why. Ideally, I'd love to see 5 FF, 5 MF, 3 MM next season.
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Post by: cbacbacba1 on July 05, 2023, 02:37:48 AM
The route turned out to be pretty alike TAR24  :funny:

Overused countries (China / Italy in 24, Thailand / India in 36)
Staple south-east Asia tropical countries (Malaysia in 24 / Vietnam in 36)
Underused countries (Sri Lanka / Spain in 24, Sweden / Ireland in 36)
New country (Wales in 24 / Slovenia in 36)

And with all the double legs in one country  :funny:
But 36’s route is much more refreshing than 24 of course

The weighted average for no. of times each country visited for this route will be: (8+7+13+11+1+4+2) / 7 = 6.57, which is pretty much the same as TAR14 / 27
The visit to India and Germany pretty much dragged down the average

Though a problem is would it be too similar in view for Slovenia / Sweden / Ireland all in a row :didimiss:
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Post by: Malcooolm on July 05, 2023, 03:59:10 AM
 :conf:
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Post by: Avid on July 05, 2023, 06:02:41 AM
Honestly I like the first half of the route. I always really like Thailand, excited for new city of Can Tho, and I always like the desert/semi-arid areas of India

My only preference would have been to visit a fourth country in Asia within the first six legs. If they had just popped down to Malaysia or Singapore for one of the double legs, frankly, it would be a superb route. Instead, it is very good, but not quite great. I have no doubt we are in for a great season though.

Also - the second leg in Thailand is outside Bangkok. It will be in the Nakhon Pathom province about an hour west of the capital. So technically that is a new area visited also.

I am thrilled with casting - finally we have age diversity and physicality of all 'shapes and sizes' again after the 20s had quite generic casting. As for the three MM potentially in final four, I don't mind it given who the MM teams are, but I would say that I hope WRP/CBS recognises that 37 should have more FF teams than MM. It hardly ever happens and I don't understand why. Ideally, I'd love to see 5 FF, 5 MF, 3 MM next season.
S.5 had 3 FF and 1 MM or doesn't it count ? AND  I think will find more seasons if we start researching.. I think producers get alot of flak ,but we all should be kind.
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 05, 2023, 06:26:05 AM
Honestly I like the first half of the route. I always really like Thailand, excited for new city of Can Tho, and I always like the desert/semi-arid areas of India

My only preference would have been to visit a fourth country in Asia within the first six legs. If they had just popped down to Malaysia or Singapore for one of the double legs, frankly, it would be a superb route. Instead, it is very good, but not quite great. I have no doubt we are in for a great season though.

Also - the second leg in Thailand is outside Bangkok. It will be in the Nakhon Pathom province about an hour west of the capital. So technically that is a new area visited also.

I am thrilled with casting - finally we have age diversity and physicality of all 'shapes and sizes' again after the 20s had quite generic casting. As for the three MM potentially in final four, I don't mind it given who the MM teams are, but I would say that I hope WRP/CBS recognises that 37 should have more FF teams than MM. It hardly ever happens and I don't understand why. Ideally, I'd love to see 5 FF, 5 MF, 3 MM next season.
S.5 had 3 FF and 1 MM or doesn't it count ? AND  I think will find more seasons if we start researching.. I think producers get alot of flak ,but we all should be kind.

What do you mean doesn't it count? I said it hardly ever happens, I didn't say it never happens.

For your information - of 36 seasons filmed, 20 have had more MM than FF, 10 have had an even number of MM and FF, and only 6 have had more FF than MM (one of which is your conveniently aforementioned season 5).

They need to cast more all-female teams in general. They also need to have more seasons where the number of all-female teams is higher.

End of.
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Post by: Avid on July 05, 2023, 06:35:22 AM
Honestly I like the first half of the route. I always really like Thailand, excited for new city of Can Tho, and I always like the desert/semi-arid areas of India

My only preference would have been to visit a fourth country in Asia within the first six legs. If they had just popped down to Malaysia or Singapore for one of the double legs, frankly, it would be a superb route. Instead, it is very good, but not quite great. I have no doubt we are in for a great season though.

Also - the second leg in Thailand is outside Bangkok. It will be in the Nakhon Pathom province about an hour west of the capital. So technically that is a new area visited also.

I am thrilled with casting - finally we have age diversity and physicality of all 'shapes and sizes' again after the 20s had quite generic casting. As for the three MM potentially in final four, I don't mind it given who the MM teams are, but I would say that I hope WRP/CBS recognises that 37 should have more FF teams than MM. It hardly ever happens and I don't understand why. Ideally, I'd love to see 5 FF, 5 MF, 3 MM next season.
S.5 had 3 FF and 1 MM or doesn't it count ? AND  I think will find more seasons if we start researching.. I think producers get alot of flak ,but we all should be kind.

What do you mean doesn't it count? I said it hardly ever happens, I didn't say it never happens.

For your information - of 36 seasons filmed, 20 have had more MM than FF, 10 have had an even number of MM and FF, and only 6 have had more FF than MM (one of which is your conveniently aforementioned season 5).

They need to cast more all-female teams in general. They also need to have more seasons where the number of all-female teams is higher.

End of.
I think you have your answer, a season with more FF doesn't always mean an FF will win, otherwise will have 6ff winners  . I think casting should concentrate on the abilities that tend to get a win mostly, otherwise 37 may be yet another season where we get more FF with an Mf winner,  no hate..peace
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 05, 2023, 06:43:32 AM
Honestly I like the first half of the route. I always really like Thailand, excited for new city of Can Tho, and I always like the desert/semi-arid areas of India

My only preference would have been to visit a fourth country in Asia within the first six legs. If they had just popped down to Malaysia or Singapore for one of the double legs, frankly, it would be a superb route. Instead, it is very good, but not quite great. I have no doubt we are in for a great season though.

Also - the second leg in Thailand is outside Bangkok. It will be in the Nakhon Pathom province about an hour west of the capital. So technically that is a new area visited also.

I am thrilled with casting - finally we have age diversity and physicality of all 'shapes and sizes' again after the 20s had quite generic casting. As for the three MM potentially in final four, I don't mind it given who the MM teams are, but I would say that I hope WRP/CBS recognises that 37 should have more FF teams than MM. It hardly ever happens and I don't understand why. Ideally, I'd love to see 5 FF, 5 MF, 3 MM next season.
S.5 had 3 FF and 1 MM or doesn't it count ? AND  I think will find more seasons if we start researching.. I think producers get alot of flak ,but we all should be kind.

What do you mean doesn't it count? I said it hardly ever happens, I didn't say it never happens.

For your information - of 36 seasons filmed, 20 have had more MM than FF, 10 have had an even number of MM and FF, and only 6 have had more FF than MM (one of which is your conveniently aforementioned season 5).

They need to cast more all-female teams in general. They also need to have more seasons where the number of all-female teams is higher.

End of.
I think you have your answer, a season with more FF doesn't always mean an FF will win, otherwise will have 6ff winners  . I think casting should concentrate on the abilities that tend to get a win mostly, otherwise 37 may be yet another season where we get more FF with an Mf winner,  no hate..peace

No hate back, just entirely disagree with your sentiments.

We've had 3 FF teams win the race. Two have done so on one of those six seasons that had more FF than MM. Only one (Kisha & Jen) did so otherwise. Speaks for itself again. Seasons with more FF teams than MM are more likely to allow for a FF team to win.

Bottom line is, if 20 seasons can have more MM teams than FF (some by 2-3 more as well!) then we should definitely have more than 6 in comparison.
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 05, 2023, 07:07:01 AM
I wonder what production is doing this season in order to get away with virtually zero sightings this season. Hats off to them I guess
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Post by: Parovic on July 05, 2023, 07:08:09 AM
IRELAND

Wow!

European legs never disappoint us this season!
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Post by: BourkieBoy on July 05, 2023, 07:55:05 AM
As one of Australia's 7 million Irish Catholics and having my great-grandparents immigrate from Ireland to Australia in the late 1930's, I'm super, super, super excited for this penultimate leg! Ireland (especially Dublin!) is just such a beautiful country and we should have seen more of it by this point in the TAR franchise!

Please do Dublin justice TAR!
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Post by: Xoruz on July 05, 2023, 08:07:01 AM
Finally! How long have we asked for Dublin?
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Post by: TARFansurvivor on July 05, 2023, 08:43:32 AM
Finally! How long have we asked for Dublin?
For ages! Iam so happy if we finally gets Dublin, cool country and city to have final 4  :cheer: :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:
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Post by: Maanca on July 05, 2023, 12:45:19 PM
Called it! Finally a return to Ireland <3

Hopefully no donkeys involved this time  :funny:
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Post by: Beat! on July 05, 2023, 01:37:37 PM
Ireland! 24 seasons later at last.
Gotta say, the route seems very interesting. We will see eventually how the execution is handled.
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Post by: mshortle1996 on July 05, 2023, 01:44:43 PM
FINALLY! A LEG IN DUBLIN!

Let's hope this leg is better than Season 12's first leg.


Fun fact: Teams don't have to clear customs in the United States because Ireland has US Preclearance.
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Post by: Avid on July 05, 2023, 01:53:27 PM
FINALLY! A LEG IN DUBLIN!

Let's hope this leg is better than Season 12's first leg.


Fun fact: Teams don't have to clear customs in the United States because Ireland has US Preclearance.
Oh wow
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Post by: cole1024 on July 05, 2023, 02:19:47 PM
With the information that Steve/Anna were probably eliminated in Dublin, here are the demographics of the final 3 teams in the 30s:

MM teams: 10 (Tyler/Korey, Leo/Jamal, Will/James, Madison/Riley, Ryan/Dusty, Cesar/Ricky, Shane/Juan, Corey/Rob, Joel/Garrett, John/Greg)

MF Teams: 8 (Henry/Evan, Jessica/Cody, Colin/Christie, Hung/Chee, Kim/Penn, Derek/Claire, Michelle/Luis, Rod/Leticia)

FF Teams: 3 (Kristi/Jen, Raquel/Cayla, Emily/Molly)
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Post by: rtvguy5750 on July 05, 2023, 02:23:27 PM
lmfao i hope this wakes production up to the fact they need to stop casting M/Ms all the time lol
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Post by: Maanca on July 05, 2023, 02:24:33 PM
Looking like TARUS may indeed have its first all-MM final 3. The final leg will tell.
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 05, 2023, 02:26:57 PM
Phil was heard at the pit stop by a source saying "this is the first time we had an all male final 3"
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Post by: cole1024 on July 05, 2023, 02:30:07 PM
Phil was heard at the pit stop by a source saying "this is the first time we had an all male final 3"
Season 37 NEEDS to have no more than 3 MM teams. 5 FF teams, 5 MF teams, and 3 MM teams would be good. Pull a TAR 12 or TAR 25 lol
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Post by: I ♥ TAR on July 05, 2023, 02:52:22 PM
Phil was heard at the pit stop by a source saying "this is the first time we had an all male final 3"

I am worried they are considering this as accomplishment.
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Post by: Maanca on July 05, 2023, 02:54:57 PM
Phil was heard at the pit stop by a source saying "this is the first time we had an all male final 3"

I am worried they are considering this as accomplishment.

Probably not. It's just part of the host's job to highlight when "firsts" happen, even if this isn't really one to be proud of.
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Post by: ZBC Company on July 05, 2023, 03:51:19 PM
I am filled with great enthusiasm.
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 05, 2023, 03:55:36 PM
Once more, as I said above, I hope 37 has 6 FF, 4 MF and at maximum 3 MM.

It took five seasons to have an entire MF final. It’s now taken 36 to have a fully MM final (and thank god at least it’s a varied final 3 with a deaf father (49) and his son (27), two men who are 40+, and black brothers in their 20s).

Hopefully this sees them casting more FF teams in future.
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Post by: Traveldude1 on July 05, 2023, 03:57:06 PM
This is the first time in 36 seasons where the entire Final 3 is all M/M and people are already complaining? Cry me a river, when most of the recent seasons have been won by couples
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Post by: Joberio on July 05, 2023, 03:58:39 PM
This is the first time in 36 seasons where the entire Final 3 is all M/M and people are already complaining? Cry me a river, when most of the recent seasons have been won by couples
I'd rather see couples win.  At least in those cases, one woman is on the winning team.
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Post by: Avid on July 05, 2023, 04:02:08 PM
 :conf:  :conf: :conf: Bravo to the first black mm to reach the finale in 18 seasons . Hope they win . Congrats  on the finalists for making HIS -TORY .....
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Post by: Avid on July 05, 2023, 04:07:32 PM
I feel like it will be an all male finale.. I predict it will be an all male finale  . If this is a physical race like last season.
I was RIGHT,  :conf:

but I expected it to be the fit guys not men in their 60s ...Maybe they were uturned early ,I don't know, cant wait to watch 36 to figure it out
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Post by: rtvguy5750 on July 05, 2023, 04:08:56 PM
This is the first time in 36 seasons where the entire Final 3 is all M/M and people are already complaining? Cry me a river, when most of the recent seasons have been won by couples
I'd rather see couples win.  At least in those cases, one woman is on the winning team.

how homophobic /s
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Post by: ghmorello on July 05, 2023, 04:20:33 PM
All male Final 3?  Based!   :funny:
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Post by: Avid on July 05, 2023, 04:23:05 PM
If the black mm win ,it will be historic too...Having 3 mm at the finale and having the first black mm to win ,will make this the most historic  season in recent times ..Am so happy to have witnessed history hours after and hopefully will witness more  :ghug: :)x :cheer: :conf: :conf:
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Post by: LandonM170 on July 05, 2023, 04:38:25 PM
I'm not mad that there's an all MM finale 3, but it is kinda frustrating, as I love rooting for my girls! (god, I'm so gay :funny:)

The 3 MM teams are pretty diverse, so I'm happy about that!
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Post by: Parovic on July 05, 2023, 04:50:46 PM
Is there any chance that Leg 4 is not Vietnam?
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Post by: Amazing01 on July 05, 2023, 04:51:17 PM
Whoever wins it will be historic.
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Post by: Amazing01 on July 05, 2023, 04:54:16 PM
A Boston Finale Leg would be iconic.
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Post by: Amazing01 on July 05, 2023, 05:00:54 PM
The first MM team to win since Dave & Connor.
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 05, 2023, 05:02:28 PM
The first MM team to win since Dave & Connor.
Is this shade against Will & James or did you just forget? Also there's a 66.67% chance that a MM won 35 too.
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Post by: Amazing01 on July 05, 2023, 05:05:52 PM
Yeah! 
I'm sorry Will & James.

Oh, i forgot Season 35 too.
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Post by: Joberio on July 05, 2023, 05:09:45 PM
Yeah! 
I'm sorry Will & James.

Oh, i forgot Season 35 too.
Rod & Leticia could've won that.  We still don't know how that turned out.
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on July 05, 2023, 05:11:56 PM
An all male final 3........................................ ya know what, maybe S35 doesn't sound so bad after all??
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Post by: rtvguy5750 on July 05, 2023, 05:24:30 PM
a member of one of the most underrepresented groups (disabled racers) is in the final 3! I support race, gender and sexuality diversity but this should also be noted!!!!
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Post by: docol on July 05, 2023, 05:36:18 PM
Can we please just say who are the final 3 teams?
And...no clue at all where the finale will be held???
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Post by: JegoKelvin on July 05, 2023, 05:36:31 PM
a member of one of the most underrepresented groups (disabled racers) is in the final 3! I support race, gender and sexuality diversity but this should also be noted!!!!

Since Margie & Luke of S.14.
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 05, 2023, 05:37:56 PM
no clue at all where the finale will be held???
That's not allowed to be revealed until the finale begins for racers' safety. It's in the RFF rules.
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Post by: ghmorello on July 05, 2023, 05:38:17 PM
I wonder how much r/TheAmazingRace will seethe at this final 3 if Reddit is still around when S36 airs.
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on July 05, 2023, 05:39:03 PM
Is there any chance that Leg 4 is not Vietnam?

Teams are seen in Ho Chi Minh City. *facepalms*  :groan:
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Post by: Zack. on July 05, 2023, 05:39:51 PM
With the information that Steve/Anna were probably eliminated in Dublin, here are the demographics of the final 3 teams in the 30s:

MM teams: 10 (Tyler/Korey, Leo/Jamal, Will/James, Madison/Riley, Ryan/Dusty, Cesar/Ricky, Shane/Juan, Corey/Rob, Joel/Garrett, John/Greg)

MF Teams: 8 (Henry/Evan, Jessica/Cody, Colin/Christie, Hung/Chee, Kim/Penn, Derek/Claire, Michelle/Luis, Rod/Leticia)

FF Teams: 3 (Kristi/Jen, Raquel/Cayla, Emily/Molly)

Did some more math based on this based on some of the discourse we've had. Based on the 82 teams cast from TAR 30 to present-

Demographics of Finalist Teams as Percentage of Total Teams Cast:
MM teams - 10/28 = 35.71%
MF teams - 8/34 = 23.52%
FF teams - 3/20 = 15%

Likelihood of Chosen Demographic Making F3: (not weighted by ability or circumstances like COVID, just straight odds)
MM teams - 28/82 = 34.14%
MF teams - 34/82 = 41.46%
FF teams - 20/82 = 24.39%

Subtracting the actual demographics (first numbers) from the theoretical odds of each type of team making the final leg and we find:

MM teams are performing +1.59% better than expected
MF teams are performing -17.94% worse than expected
FF teams are performing -8.39% worse than expected

If you factor in things like U-Turns, Yields, people leaving due to COVID, these figures are less indicative of overall success but it's a good baseline. If I could make a claim casting overcorrected for how successful MF teams were in the past (especially with seasons like 26 and 29 which leaned heavily in favor of MF teams to begin with).
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 05, 2023, 05:40:17 PM
Teams are seen in Ho Chi Minh City. *facepalms*  :groan:
Where did you see this? RFF had no sightings of HCMC
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Post by: rtvguy5750 on July 05, 2023, 05:41:23 PM
a member of one of the most underrepresented groups (disabled racers) is in the final 3! I support race, gender and sexuality diversity but this should also be noted!!!!

Since Margie & Luke of S.14.

 :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

i too, would rather not have an all male final 3 but all forms of diversity should be celebrated!
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Post by: Zack. on July 05, 2023, 05:51:00 PM
I have to echo the comments on Rob & Corey's impressive run so far  :cheer:
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Post by: Maanca on July 05, 2023, 05:57:43 PM
It's nice to see someone with a disability in the finale! I guess in fairness, we don't know what their personalities will be like yet. They might end up being likable.

Unfortunately when an all-male Final 3 happened on TARCAN 3, the "fun" team screwed their chance of winning early, so it was really a finale of 2 total gamebot teams, all brawn and serious. That's what I fear happening here :P
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Post by: Parovic on July 05, 2023, 06:01:56 PM
Teams are seen in Ho Chi Minh City. *facepalms*  :groan:
Where did you see this? RFF had no sightings of HCMC
I think they have the TBC leg after Can Tho, isn't it
They were even spotted to purchase tickets in Expedia

If so, I doubt it is Vietnam for Leg 4
It's still up in the air
It could be anywhere tbh
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Post by: Zack. on July 05, 2023, 06:08:09 PM
I don't think anyone has confirmed the Expedia part of that.
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 05, 2023, 06:08:18 PM
I think they have the TBC leg after Can Tho, isn't it
They were even spotted to purchase tickets in Expedia

If so, I doubt it is Vietnam for Leg 4
It's still up in the air
It could be anywhere tbh
Leg 4 is Vietnam 100%. Where in Vietnam? No clue, but definitely Vietnam. Can Tho was most likely a KOR leg, I don't think the clues were for Expedia.
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Post by: OMGitsGARRET on July 05, 2023, 06:08:33 PM
I want to praise Steve and Anna-Leigh as well real quick. To make it this far with Steve being the oldest contestant on this season and Anna-Leigh being the last girl standing is an amazing feat. Especially with something wild that hasn't happened in 36 seasons of this show to be the last surviving non-M/M team, they should both be super proud.

Obviously we don't know their full personalities or what they're like, but just on paper with how things ended up going, I'm very excited to watch their journey and glad we get 11 episodes with them.  :2hearts:
I could see them being a potential top pick by Production to return for a future Returnee season as well.
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Post by: PikaBelleChu on July 05, 2023, 07:11:50 PM
Teams are seen in Ho Chi Minh City. *facepalms*  :groan:
Where did you see this? RFF had no sightings of HCMC
I think they have the TBC leg after Can Tho, isn't it
They were even spotted to purchase tickets in Expedia

If so, I doubt it is Vietnam for Leg 4
It's still up in the air
It could be anywhere tbh

Unless they went to Taiwan?  :duno:
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Post by: Parovic on July 05, 2023, 08:45:45 PM
I think they have the TBC leg after Can Tho, isn't it
They were even spotted to purchase tickets in Expedia

If so, I doubt it is Vietnam for Leg 4
It's still up in the air
It could be anywhere tbh
Leg 4 is Vietnam 100%. Where in Vietnam? No clue, but definitely Vietnam. Can Tho was most likely a KOR leg, I don't think the clues were for Expedia.

Could it be like TAR3/10
Like the revisit to Da Nang or Ha Long Bay?

But if they go within Vietnam, they will rely on Buses or Trains?
I have no idea where they head to tbh
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 06, 2023, 07:51:30 AM
Sorry I posted In live ,was meant to post here..where are the historic finalists  right now ?
Dublin.
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Post by: BritishTARFan on July 06, 2023, 10:47:35 AM
All bets are on Boston for me. If not I think Seattle, Miami or Manhattan.
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Post by: tennis33 on July 06, 2023, 01:13:54 PM
All bets are on Boston for me. If not I think Seattle, Miami or Manhattan.

I agree I feel like it’s Boston
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 06, 2023, 01:19:29 PM
I agree I feel like it’s Boston
Peach already said no to Boston
Not Boston but thanks!
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Post by: LandonM170 on July 06, 2023, 01:30:38 PM
I think Portland, Maine is our biggest possibility if New England is on the table.
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 06, 2023, 03:09:28 PM
Y'all could be guessing all day... let's not lol?

Stand by for all hands on deck when we announce the 36 Finish!
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Post by: cole1024 on July 06, 2023, 04:15:36 PM
Stand by for all hands on deck when we announce the 36 Finish!
Any idea on the timeline we're looking at?  :cheer:
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Post by: Maanca on July 06, 2023, 04:34:40 PM
It just better not be an LA-area finale :P
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 06, 2023, 05:06:22 PM
It just better not be an LA-area finale :P

It isn't. Hold tight.
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Post by: Parovic on July 06, 2023, 06:32:58 PM
Maybe it’s Buffalo
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Post by: Avid on July 06, 2023, 07:22:59 PM
Pliz let it b a stadium finish for our historic finalists ,who may make more history .It needs fireworks too :conf: :conf: :conf:
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Post by: BourkieBoy on July 07, 2023, 03:30:01 AM
All of my chips are in for a finale to take place in Washington, D.C.!  :conf: :cheer:

I'm sure the destination will be revealed in the coming hours! I'm probably betting on the finale location to take place in the completely wrong spot, knowing my luck!  :lol: :funny:
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Post by: Avid on July 07, 2023, 05:13:10 AM
They should make them ALL put on suits inorder to
1. Slow them down and make it difficult for them.
2. To pomp up the historic occasion.
3 .Coz tarcanada 8 finale cast  looked good in suits

Doing a task in a suit will hype them,  slow them down, make them sweat all at once .These guys haven't shown signs of being tired all season lol :conf:
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Post by: Avid on July 07, 2023, 08:55:38 AM
I feel that the historic finale will b extremely physical now that it's final 3 mm.

The Canada s.3 all male was also physical and had them body ski into a water pool at the end .

It's been 2 days already, I feel that  they may be adapting to the fact it's all 3 mm, by making it very physical. Could that be the reason for the 2- almost 3 day wait?  Or is it just connecting flights. I don't know  !
I wouldn't be surprised if there is contact sport like  baseball or American football or  swimming or UFC  :)x :lol: :lol:
I feel that the historic final 3mm are in for a very physical rude awakening!
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Post by: Joberio on July 07, 2023, 09:22:06 AM
I feel that the historic finale will b extremely physical now that it's final 3 mm.

The Canada s.3 all male was also physical and had them body ski into a water pool at the end .

It's been 2 days already, I feel that  they may be adapting to the fact it's all 3 mm, by making it very physical. Could that be the reason for the 2- almost 3 day wait?  Or is it just connecting flights. I don't know  !
I wouldn't be surprised if there is contact sport like  baseball or American football or  swimming or UFC  :)x :lol: :lol:
I feel that the historic final 3mm are in for a very physical rude awakening!
We get it.  It's a F3 we've never had.  You don't have to keep saying "historic."
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Post by: jacfield on July 07, 2023, 09:39:14 AM
Joel lived in Tacoma, WA for 5 years (up until last year), and while there visited Seattle many times, even doing a few youtube videos about some of the tourist attractions. Rob coaches at the Washington School for the Deaf near Vancouver, WA so he and Corey are presumably fairly familiar with Seattle (a few hours north).

I have to imagine that being familiar with the city offers a slight advantage over Greg and John. As far as I know, they have no connection to that city.
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Post by: TheRabbi on July 07, 2023, 10:32:34 AM
Seattle is long overdue for a proper final leg. Great choice. I did a trip there a few years ago and did the tourist hot spots. Space needle, museum of pop culture, Fremont/troll statue, Mariners game, Underground tour, etc. I imagine a few of those will be found in tonights finale. I checked the MLB schedule and the Mariners are out of town, so T-Mobile park is definitely a possibility.
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Post by: Xoruz on July 07, 2023, 10:44:41 AM
🎵 One short day in the Emerald City. One short day full of so much to do. Every way that you look in this city, there's something exquisite you'll want to visit before the day's through! 🎵

From the Emerald Isle to the Emerald City. We're well overdue for a full Seattle leg.
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Post by: ghmorello on July 07, 2023, 10:47:44 AM
Seattle is long overdue for a proper final leg. Great choice. I did a trip there a few years ago and did the tourist hot spots. Space needle, museum of pop culture, Fremont/troll statue, Mariners game, Underground tour, etc. I imagine a few of those will be found in tonights finale. I checked the MLB schedule and the Mariners are out of town, so T-Mobile park is definitely a possibility.

I'd rule out T-Mobile Park because Seattle is hosting the All Star Game on Tuesday.
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 07, 2023, 11:15:12 AM


I'd rule out T-Mobile Park because Seattle is hosting the All Star Game on Tuesday.
Tuesday is a LONG way away lol
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Post by: ghmorello on July 07, 2023, 11:18:19 AM


I'd rule out T-Mobile Park because Seattle is hosting the All Star Game on Tuesday.
Tuesday is a LONG way away lol

There are other festivities leading up to the game like the MLB Futures Game tomorrow.
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Post by: redwings8831 on July 07, 2023, 11:21:20 AM


I'd rule out T-Mobile Park because Seattle is hosting the All Star Game on Tuesday.
Tuesday is a LONG way away lol

There are other festivities leading up to the game like the MLB Futures Game tomorrow.

Yep, starts today. https://www.mlb.com/all-star/schedule
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Post by: QuizMan92 on July 07, 2023, 11:31:16 AM
I’ve never been to Seattle (I live on the opposite side of the country) but there are so many possible things there: gum wall, Pike Place, sports teams, Starbucks, Jeff Bezos/Amazon, space needle, mt rainier, video game companies (Nintendo, Microsoft)
Hopefully the finish line isn’t gas works park lol
The last time TAR visited PNW was during S13, Seattle was last visited in S10 (start) and S3 (end, though that final leg also visited Hawaii)
Wonder what the tasks will be, especially the memory task (if there is one) and the finish line location
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 07, 2023, 12:21:43 PM
I hope we DO have a memory challenge! Seems like they have been in short supply lately...at least the ones we can see!

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Post by: Brannockdevice on July 07, 2023, 02:32:38 PM
Anyone for team not watching?
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 07, 2023, 04:25:19 PM
Anyone for team not watching?
huh???
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Post by: ghmorello on July 07, 2023, 04:50:58 PM
Anyone for team not watching?

Sounds like you have a problem.
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Post by: ianthebalance on July 07, 2023, 05:42:39 PM
I’m extremely hyped for the season! No offense to the Covid seasons (understandable under the circumstances) but it feels like we’re getting real TAR back  :clap2:
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Post by: Brannockdevice on July 07, 2023, 05:48:09 PM
Anyone for team not watching?

Sounds like you have a problem.

You're right, I do have a problem.

I have a problem with the sexist casting department playing into misogynistic tropes that "the American audience would rather see men on this show than women", and after 22 long years, they have finally won, and they have succeeded in guaranteeing another needless all male victory.

Out of 36 seasons, there have been 21 seasons in which more men were cast than women. Production is surely pleased as punch with this final three.

I for one am not here for it.

Peach or another able moderator, please take steps to delete my account.
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Post by: Avid on July 07, 2023, 05:57:11 PM
A brief history of what eliminated black mms and why tonight's finale is important
S.22 - eliminated by a swimming  challenge on leg 2
S.23- The ticket agent booked wrongly for them on leg 3
S.27- Changing detours. Leg 4
S.30- Aftermath of the head to head leg 5
S.34 - puzzle challenge leg 10
 
Am so happy that we finally have a black mm in THIS HISTORIC  finale ,hope they win and make more history !! FINGERS CROSSED WATCHING HERE.
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 07, 2023, 06:07:43 PM
Hey don't blame RFF! The better thing is to write both CBS and WRP a blistering note expressing your concerns with actual numbers and a good explanation of why this is so important. I think there are a lot of people who feel exactly the same as you. There is POWER in groups so use that to your advantage. I too would love to see more amazing women on the show! It concerns me when ONE episode wipes out the women...that shows that perhaps that task was too difficult for women.

SO take a survey and use the #'s to support your letter to WRP!!
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on July 07, 2023, 06:20:35 PM
Hey don't blame RFF! The better thing is to write both CBS and WRP a blistering note expressing your concerns with actual numbers and a good explanation of why this is so important. I think there are a lot of people who feel exactly the same as you. There is POWER in groups so use that to your advantage. I too would love to see more amazing women on the show! It concerns me when ONE episode wipes out the women...that shows that perhaps that task was too difficult for women.

SO take a survey and use the #'s to support your letter to WRP!!

I second this!

I contacted the entire casting team directly before season 35 last year, asking for more parent-child teams per season and we got two that time. Then before this one, I contacted them again asking for more FF teams over-40 and a mother-daughter. And what do we have this season? Hey presto.

Reaching out to WRP on social media or via email is possible! As is reaching out to casting, who are all over Instagram! We're big fans, so we can absolutely give friendly feedback.

So why not reach out and say 'hey, cool that we got an all-male final, but could we get 6-7 FF teams for 37? Seeing as we've had so many where there were at least 3 more MM teams than FF, but never the opposite, why not do a split like 6 FF, 4 MF, 3 MM next time, to even out the odds'.

Easy.
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Post by: Parovic on July 07, 2023, 06:33:39 PM
I want to ask for more variety of the location

Like,

I want them to go to some new countries
But at the same time, don't visit the same city over and over again

With Thailand, they can go to Sukhothai (The historic landmark like Angkor Wat)
With Taiwan, they can go to Kenting
With Central Asia, they can visit Tajikistan with Istravashan aka the Silk Road
With South America, they can try Guyana
Also Europe, try North Macedonia and pay homage to Mother Teresa or Bosnia (pay homage to the victims who lost their lives in civil war)

I am not saying the route in TAR 36 bad
However, I would like to see more "human" aspect
Remember S6, teams have to visit the slave harbor in Senegal or S11 Auschwitz?
I mean the recent seasons have been decreasing the human or exploration aspect

When you race around the world, the thing you obtain is not just a Million dollars but also the people who help you, the culture you have never in touch before

That's why I really want them to insert more exploration aspects into the race instead of just keep racing
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Post by: BourkieBoy on July 07, 2023, 06:45:13 PM
I'm extremely happy with Seattle being our finale location and even more delighted with a night leg! Seattle is overdue for another visit and I believe night legs are some of the best legs we have ever seen on TAR!

This route gets much better once they hit Europe! And as for the boot order, I will wait to see the individual team personalities before I make my judgement on whether I can complain about the actual boot order  :lol: :funny:

I'm getting excited to see the season! Can September hurry up already???  :funny: :lol:
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Post by: rtvguy5750 on July 07, 2023, 07:18:16 PM
Anyone for team not watching?

Sounds like you have a problem.

You're right, I do have a problem.

I have a problem with the sexist casting department playing into misogynistic tropes that "the American audience would rather see men on this show than women", and after 22 long years, they have finally won, and they have succeeded in guaranteeing another needless all male victory.

Out of 36 seasons, there have been 21 seasons in which more men were cast than women. Production is surely pleased as punch with this final three.

I for one am not here for it.

Peach or another able moderator, please take steps to delete my account.

chill out lol, tbh it's more surprising it took 36 seasons for this

Also this is at least a diverse F3 on paper, 2 guys in their 40s, 2 young black guys, a deaf guy (which, disabled people are severely underreped on tar) and i'd say Garrett & Joel and Rob & Corey seem like surprising finalists on paper, gender diversity is important, but every form of diversity should be celebrated
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Post by: Maanca on July 07, 2023, 07:30:11 PM
Also this is at least a diverse F3 on paper, 2 guys in their 40s, 2 young black guys, a deaf guy (which, disabled people are severely underreped on tar) and i'd say Garrett & Joel and Rob & Corey seem like surprising finalists on paper, gender diversity is important, but every form of diversity should be celebrated

This. I'd be more upset if it were 3 teams of alpha males. But they might actually be cool.
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Post by: Brannockdevice on July 07, 2023, 07:41:24 PM
Anyone for team not watching?

Sounds like you have a problem.

You're right, I do have a problem.

I have a problem with the sexist casting department playing into misogynistic tropes that "the American audience would rather see men on this show than women", and after 22 long years, they have finally won, and they have succeeded in guaranteeing another needless all male victory.

Out of 36 seasons, there have been 21 seasons in which more men were cast than women. Production is surely pleased as punch with this final three.

I for one am not here for it.

Peach or another able moderator, please take steps to delete my account.

chill out lol, tbh it's more surprising it took 36 seasons for this

Also this is at least a diverse F3 on paper, 2 guys in their 40s, 2 young black guys, a deaf guy (which, disabled people are severely underreped on tar) and i'd say Garrett & Joel and Rob & Corey seem like surprising finalists on paper, gender diversity is important, but every form of diversity should be celebrated

I’m not going to “chill out” on issues relating to systemic misogyny in the entertainment industry, especially when it manifests in a show I hold so dear to my heart.

I agree, gender diversity is important. If you feel the same, then why are you so quick to defend this system?

Peach and Kiwi, I will be in touch.
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Post by: rtvguy5750 on July 07, 2023, 07:45:39 PM
Anyone for team not watching?

Sounds like you have a problem.

You're right, I do have a problem.

I have a problem with the sexist casting department playing into misogynistic tropes that "the American audience would rather see men on this show than women", and after 22 long years, they have finally won, and they have succeeded in guaranteeing another needless all male victory.

Out of 36 seasons, there have been 21 seasons in which more men were cast than women. Production is surely pleased as punch with this final three.

I for one am not here for it.

Peach or another able moderator, please take steps to delete my account.

chill out lol, tbh it's more surprising it took 36 seasons for this

Also this is at least a diverse F3 on paper, 2 guys in their 40s, 2 young black guys, a deaf guy (which, disabled people are severely underreped on tar) and i'd say Garrett & Joel and Rob & Corey seem like surprising finalists on paper, gender diversity is important, but every form of diversity should be celebrated

I’m not going to “chill out” on issues relating to systemic misogyny in the entertainment industry, especially when it manifests in a show I hold so dear to my heart.

I agree, gender diversity is important. If you feel the same, then why are you so quick to defend this system?

Peach and Kiwi, I will be in touch.

I never defended "the system" i defended the important diverse identities outside of gender, like race and disability status
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Post by: florida on July 07, 2023, 08:43:05 PM
Also this is at least a diverse F3 on paper, 2 guys in their 40s, 2 young black guys, a deaf guy (which, disabled people are severely underreped on tar) and i'd say Garrett & Joel and Rob & Corey seem like surprising finalists on paper, gender diversity is important, but every form of diversity should be celebrated

This. I'd be more upset if it were 3 teams of alpha males. But they might actually be cool.

I surely hope they are much better than Tar 9's F3.
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Post by: Maanca on July 07, 2023, 09:47:37 PM
Are they self-driving? Now that's one Covid-resultant change to the race I wouldn't mind being permanent. Racers should NOT be at the mercy of a taxi driver in the final leg!
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 07, 2023, 09:48:34 PM
Are they self-driving? Now that's one Covid-resultant change to the race I wouldn't mind being permanent. Racers should NOT be at the mercy of a taxi driver in the final leg!
Self driving it seems for this leg, although they have used public transportation this season (in Leg 5 at least)
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Post by: Malcooolm on July 07, 2023, 09:52:13 PM
LOVE self-driving on the final leg (even though I know that’d be my downfall if I was on the race haha)
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 07, 2023, 10:36:42 PM
I think we already have more social media sightings than we've had all season lmao
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Post by: Maanca on July 07, 2023, 10:39:38 PM
I think we already have more social media sightings than we've had all season lmao

You can usually rely on an American city for good sightings  :funny:
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Post by: Jjw26 on July 07, 2023, 11:19:08 PM
I hope there's more placement changes after this task because I would hate it to be a linear finale.
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Post by: cole1024 on July 07, 2023, 11:20:30 PM
If this is going to be 90 minutes with only 3 teams I'd imagine a long leg, just like Dublin seemed very long
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Post by: Joberio on July 07, 2023, 11:27:04 PM
Also this is at least a diverse F3 on paper, 2 guys in their 40s, 2 young black guys, a deaf guy (which, disabled people are severely underreped on tar) and i'd say Garrett & Joel and Rob & Corey seem like surprising finalists on paper, gender diversity is important, but every form of diversity should be celebrated

This. I'd be more upset if it were 3 teams of alpha males. But they might actually be cool.

I surely hope they are much better than Tar 9's F3.
At least that F3 had at least one woman in it.
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Post by: Malcooolm on July 07, 2023, 11:35:06 PM
If this is going to be 90 minutes with only 3 teams I'd imagine a long leg, just like Dublin seemed very long
As much as I love TAR, a 90-minute final three episode with minimal tasks and placement changes sounds like my nightmare  :groan:

That's my biggest pet peeve with TARAUS. Sometimes when the tasks are boring and the legs are linear, it feels like the episode just will not end...
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Post by: Avid on July 07, 2023, 11:36:40 PM
It's actually  good to see people  pulling out their phones to film the racers. Am so anxious , can't watch !! ,especially my faves being in the back,back to back lol
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Post by: TARFansurvivor on July 08, 2023, 12:07:45 AM
I'm extremely happy with Seattle being our finale location and even more delighted with a night leg! Seattle is overdue for another visit and I believe night legs are some of the best legs we have ever seen on TAR!

This route gets much better once they hit Europe! And as for the boot order, I will wait to see the individual team personalities before I make my judgement on whether I can complain about the actual boot order  :lol: :funny:

I'm getting excited to see the season! Can September hurry up already???  :funny: :lol:
I agere could have been epic with Boston though, I only hope the finishline is not gaswork park!
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Post by: mshortle1996 on July 08, 2023, 12:58:02 AM
SEATTLE!

Only 2 visits in the past (S3 finish line in the 2nd half of the leg and S10 starting line)

Let's hope Gas Works Park isn't visited. lol
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Post by: JegoKelvin on July 08, 2023, 01:40:04 AM
a member of one of the most underrepresented groups (disabled racers) is in the final 3! I support race, gender and sexuality diversity but this should also be noted!!!!

Since Margie & Luke of S.14.

 :cheer: :cheer: :cheer:

i too, would rather not have an all male final 3 but all forms of diversity should be celebrated!

and it's reversed, since it is the parent that is disabled. I am happy that TAR casted them. It shows, that they can do the Race.
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Post by: JegoKelvin on July 08, 2023, 02:19:55 AM
Honestly I like the first half of the route. I always really like Thailand, excited for new city of Can Tho, and I always like the desert/semi-arid areas of India

My only preference would have been to visit a fourth country in Asia within the first six legs. If they had just popped down to Malaysia or Singapore for one of the double legs, frankly, it would be a superb route. Instead, it is very good, but not quite great. I have no doubt we are in for a great season though.

Also - the second leg in Thailand is outside Bangkok. It will be in the Nakhon Pathom province about an hour west of the capital. So technically that is a new area visited also.

I am thrilled with casting - finally we have age diversity and physicality of all 'shapes and sizes' again after the 20s had quite generic casting. As for the three MM potentially in final four, I don't mind it given who the MM teams are, but I would say that I hope WRP/CBS recognises that 37 should have more FF teams than MM. It hardly ever happens and I don't understand why. Ideally, I'd love to see 5 FF, 5 MF, 3 MM next season.

My only take on the route, is the 1st six legs could have been better IMO, while I like the revisit to Southeast Asia in a long time felt really long. it was 2018, It could have been different. Sure, we got iconic moments from Thailand, Vietnam, India over the years. They could have gone to an unvisited location in those countries or better an underused country or even better, a new country. I would swap out x2 Thailand Legs for South Korea (Seoul & Busan), the x2 Vietnam Legs for Laos (Vientiane) and Maldives (a tropical island) and the x2 India Legs for Nepal x2. It's something minor from me since I do want the Race to best as it could be.

On the bright side at least we're getting a new city in Vietnam and seeing another part of India that's like a time capsule.

Once they touched Europe it was chef's kiss. Germany's overused, but this ain't Munich, Berlin. This is Cologne, a new city. Then came the Slovenian Legs, a brand new country that should have been visited a long time ago, it's literally there. A revisit to Sweden, we can finally get a proper Stockholm Leg. At long last capping off with a much-long awaited visit to Ireland. 24 Seasons later and it's a new city. Dublin.

TAR Israel did one of the best routes this year and I think TAR US also did. If it was South Korea x2 - Laos - Maldives - Nepal x2 (or they can throw in like Malaysia, Singapore, Qatar, Oman) + the remaining Europe Legs. We got a stunner of a route.

I remember reaching out to a producer a few years back to visit even more, expand to even more locations.
A simple request to visit new countries, revisit underused countries (especially one-time visits). As a hardcore fan I'm happy.
I believe they listened and I'm sure I'm not the only one who emailed them requesting the same.

NEW
S.25 - Malta
S.26 - Monaco
S.27 - Zimbabwe
S.28 - Colombia, Armenia, Georgia
S.30 - Bahrain
S.31 - Laos, Uganda
S.32 - Trinidad and Tobago
S.34 - Jordan
S.35 - Barbados & Dominican Republic
S.36 - Slovenia

REVISITS (One-Time or Undervisited)

S.25 - Denmark, Singapore, Philippines
S.26 - Namibia, Peru
S.27 - Zambia, Poland
S.28 - Mexico
S.29 - Panama, Norway, Greece
S.30 - Iceland, Belgium, Czech Republic
S.31 - Croatia
S.32 - Paraguay, Kazakhstan, Cambodia
S.33 - Portugal
S.34 - Spain
S.35 - Uruguay
S.36 - Ireland, Sweden

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Post by: mshortle1996 on July 08, 2023, 02:40:51 AM
You forgot Philippines for 25 and Zambia for 27.
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Post by: H_E_L_L_O on July 08, 2023, 02:53:35 AM
I would add Chile to the list as well since it hadn’t been visited since S23.
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Post by: JegoKelvin on July 08, 2023, 07:34:11 AM
Keeping my fingers crossed for a Seattle finish!  I feel like it’s the most overdue finale city.

Your wish came true, it just did. Happy for a Seattle, Washington finale!!
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Post by: Jack3257 on July 08, 2023, 03:01:43 PM
Keeping my fingers crossed for a Seattle finish!  I feel like it’s the most overdue finale city.

Your wish came true, it just did. Happy for a Seattle, Washington finale!!

Made me SO excited!  Hope the tasks were good.
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Post by: cole1024 on July 08, 2023, 06:12:09 PM
It sucks that it seems like we lost track of them pretty early in the leg :(
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Post by: grateful cacher on July 09, 2023, 12:33:10 AM
I wonder if they had any decoys running.  :duno: But they've not done that for a long time have they.


It's actually  good to see people  pulling out their phones to film the racers. Am so anxious , can't watch !! ,especially my faves being in the back,back to back lol
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Post by: QuizMan92 on July 09, 2023, 10:29:34 AM
Last night I came up with a funny nickname for this season:

The Amazing Race 36: What are they doing? (It’s because there are barely any task and location sightings for many legs)
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Post by: georgiapeach on July 09, 2023, 11:14:27 AM
Last night I came up with a funny nickname for this season:

The Amazing Race 36: What are they doing? (It’s because there are barely any task and location sightings for many legs)

The Amazing Race 36: "WE FINALLY BEAT OUT THAT RFF CREW!"




 :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny: :funny:
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Post by: florida on July 09, 2023, 04:49:19 PM
Would this be a possible finish line? It IS secluded and immediately off a freeway.

https://kingcounty.gov/services/parks-recreation/parks/parks-and-natural-lands/popular-parks/marymoor/marymoor-rentals.aspx
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Post by: Mandoli on July 10, 2023, 07:43:07 PM
Oh... *facepalm* I'm headed to Seattle next month. They couldn't run this season when I'm going, rather than night film in July?
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Post by: rtvguy5750 on August 11, 2023, 06:39:04 AM
looks like we can add Slovenia to the "countries hit by huge disaster just after TAR visits" list
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Post by: georgiapeach on August 11, 2023, 08:30:40 AM
oh nooooo
Title: Re: TAR 35 (formally called 36): Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: ianthebalance on August 30, 2023, 08:20:09 PM
I’m impressed that a team in their bio interview made a season 4 reference and knew it was “dating 12 years/virgins” (got the number correct too)
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Post by: stunami on August 31, 2023, 07:19:17 AM
I’m impressed that a team in their bio interview made a season 4 reference and knew it was “dating 12 years/virgins” (got the number correct too)

Omg which team said that?? Instant fave!
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Post by: ianthebalance on August 31, 2023, 09:42:58 AM
I’m impressed that a team in their bio interview made a season 4 reference and knew it was “dating 12 years/virgins” (got the number correct too)

Omg which team said that?? Instant fave!

Robbin and Chelsea
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Post by: NumfarPTB on September 01, 2023, 03:30:17 AM
These teams seem to be fun from their descriptions.
Show content
Just making it a bit sadder knowing the F3 composition.
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Post by: Brannockdevice on September 15, 2023, 11:23:25 PM
I've said something to this extent before on this thread, but I am finding myself revisiting this topic. What I am about to say may or may not fall on deaf ears, but I need to say my piece. I want to be completely aboveboard and emphasize that I am directing this at absolutely no one, and am just screaming into the void.

When the season began filming I was excited as everyone else! Back to full commercial travel, a first leg in Southeast Asia (the first time if I remember correctly?), a revisit to Rajasthan, first time to Slovenia, and revisits to long-awaited Stockholm and Ireland! Even the finale in Seattle is something I've been excited to see for years!

Then the final 3 actually happened and this all came crashing down.

This is a historic final three, absolutely, but historic in the worst way possible. My jaw was on the floor when I saw the elimination in Dublin.

Never before on the US season have we had an all-male MM. I find this utterly embarrassing, disgusting and offensive. We are at the zenith of the show's pattern of preferential treatment towards male teams and men in general. Is it any coincidence we have had 11 MM winners and only 3 FF winners? Is it any coincidence that out of 36 filmed seasons, more men have been cast in 21 of them, as opposed to only 6 seasons that had more women cast than men? Is it any coincidence that among all individual people that have crossed the finish line to win the Amazing Race, 62.5% are men?

I find this to be a microcosm of the sexist and misogynist entertainment industry in general, and this gut-wrenching prejudice has infected the show that has quite literally changed my life.

Since the season finished filming, I have reached out to as many people involved with the filming as humanly possible - I emailed Bertam van Munster, I emailed Elise Doganieri as well as messaged her on Facebook. I messaged members of the casting department on Instagram, and even reached out to Phil himself. I expressed my intense disappointment, to put it politely, and my desire for drastic change. I want to give credit to a certain member of the forum for their help in editing these messages. I could not have done this without you my friend!

This drastic change in question needs to happen next season, full stop. We need 6 or 7 strong, female teams. Even better, let's have no MM teams at all. If TAR26 lacked FF teams, why can't TAR37 lack MM teams? In the meantime, I will be boycotting the show. I'm ashamed I didn't realize the misogyny before through my thick rose-colored glasses, but now that I see it I will be acting on what I know is right to me.

Thanks for letting me vent. Cheers to a better future.
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Post by: Maanca on September 16, 2023, 12:05:55 AM
At least it's not 3 of your standard alpha teams. It includes a deaf parent, and a Black M/M team has very rarely made the final 3. But you're not wrong.
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Post by: ianthebalance on September 16, 2023, 12:11:01 AM
Y'all are freaking me out
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Post by: georgiapeach on September 16, 2023, 07:49:06 AM
What I want for a Finale is the BEST racers standing at the end.

If that is a final M/M then so be it.

BUT if the women are hindered by tasks that require male level of strength only then YES that is a very serious issue. Intelligence, courage, SMART THINKING, map skills, skill at asking for the right help...all that is fair game. Lifting 100 pounds of something may not.

I don't think we can comment negatively about an all M/M finale until we see what caused it. JMO
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Post by: Brannockdevice on September 16, 2023, 08:23:14 AM
Y'all are freaking me out

How so?
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Post by: Traveldude1 on September 16, 2023, 11:18:14 AM
What's odd is the strange obsession with wanting more F/F teams to dominate the race. If anything, people should be more irritated that co-ed teams win the majority of seasons these days. The last M/M team to win was Will/James (2.55) and the last true alpha male winners were Dave and Connor (2.17) in S24. Get over yourselves
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Post by: ianthebalance on September 16, 2023, 12:34:14 PM
What I want for a Finale is the BEST racers standing at the end.

If that is a final M/M then so be it.

BUT if the women are hindered by tasks that require male level of strength only then YES that is a very serious issue. Intelligence, courage, SMART THINKING, map skills, skill at asking for the right help...all that is fair game. Lifting 100 pounds of something may not.

I don't think we can comment negatively about an all M/M finale until we see what caused it. JMO

This is the best take and similar to how I feel but didn’t know how to word. Let’s wait until these episodes air. Plus when you do the show 35/36 times, this was bound to happen one of those times
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Post by: Brannockdevice on September 16, 2023, 01:39:15 PM
What's odd is the strange obsession with wanting more F/F teams to dominate the race. If anything, people should be more irritated that co-ed teams win the majority of seasons these days. The last M/M team to win was Will/James (2.55) and the last true alpha male winners were Dave and Connor (2.17) in S24. Get over yourselves

I want more FF to dominate the race because I want more women to dominate. Period. We live in a world that puts women down at every possible chance, and seeing women succeed in every area of life, including on The Amazing Race, is the only thing I want to see.
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Post by: Traveldude1 on September 16, 2023, 04:11:17 PM
It's not the show's fault that it's a difficult, physical, and a taxing adventure around the world that happens to favori co-ed and M/M teams. To get more F/F teams to dominate, you would have to slant the casting and tasks in a very unfavorable way. Don't blame casting because most F/F teams lack the strength/endurance to be competitive with the very top teams. Whine away about an all M/M Final 3 for the first time in history.
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Post by: Joberio on September 16, 2023, 06:10:26 PM
At least it's not 3 of your standard alpha teams. It includes a deaf parent, and a Black M/M team has very rarely made the final 3. But you're not wrong.
If I'm being honest . . . that's the only silver lining.  That they're three men's teams you don't normally see get that far in the race.  But aside from that, I'm inclined to agree with Brannockdevice.
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Post by: I ♥ TAR on September 16, 2023, 07:34:58 PM
I am also not fan of all-male F3 but we are still getting 7 legs with 3 FF teams which happened only in TAR5 & TAR22 so that's something too looking forward to I think.
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Post by: Brannockdevice on September 16, 2023, 10:07:15 PM
It's not the show's fault that it's a difficult, physical, and a taxing adventure around the world that happens to favor co-ed and M/M teams. To get more F/F teams to dominate, you would have to slant the casting and tasks in a very unfavorable way. Don't blame casting because most F/F teams lack the strength/endurance to be competitive with the very top teams. Whine away about an all M/M Final 3 for the first time in history.

I'd like to engage with this for a bit.

Setting aside the assumption that women cannot excel at physical tasks (which I emphatically disagree with), if that is truly the case then why bother casting women in the first place if they are destined to fail? Also, why would it be unfavorable to have the tasks favor the witty and clever? Take Kim and Penn. If anything that season should have seen Ryan and Dusty cruise to an easy victory.

Furthermore, I think you overlook a point I made that the race repeatedly favors men season after season. There are more MM teams than FF teams in this season specifically, but this is also the 21st such season. I don't think it is a coincidence that in the three seasons that produced FF winners, two of them had more women cast than men in the first place.

I'll leave off with saying that it isn't "whining" to take a firm stance against sexism and misogyny.
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Post by: Brannockdevice on September 16, 2023, 10:08:37 PM
I am also not fan of all-male F3 but we are still getting 7 legs with 3 FF teams which happened only in TAR5 & TAR22 so that's something too looking forward to I think.

Sure, but that seems to be a moot point since we know that all of them will be eliminated.
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Post by: kyleisalive on September 16, 2023, 11:22:33 PM
Stacking the deck to aim for a FF win instead of letting it happen on its own doesn't demonstrate strength and doesn't support women.  There's no equality to setting things up differently to accommodate specific genders over others.  FF teams should win on normal, balanced seasons.  And more than that, if a FF team doesn't win, it's a lousy take that the season is lesser because literally anyone else won on their own merit.

When Will and James won TAR32, people on these forums complained that they shouldn't have.  IMO that's an idiotic take no matter what way you cut it.  TAR has had winners of countless backgrounds and relationship types.  If someone can't enjoy the show because it doesn't unfold the way that they don't want it to, I'd suggest creating a fan-fiction instead.  Or watch something scripted.  You're not going to get what you want from this show every time.  Life's not fair; womp womp.
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Post by: Brannockdevice on September 16, 2023, 11:53:14 PM
Stacking the deck to aim for a FF win instead of letting it happen on its own doesn't demonstrate strength and doesn't support women.  There's no equality to setting things up differently to accommodate specific genders over others.  FF teams should win on normal, balanced seasons.  And more than that, if a FF team doesn't win, it's a lousy take that the season is lesser because literally anyone else won on their own merit.

When Will and James won TAR32, people on these forums complained that they shouldn't have.  IMO that's an idiotic take no matter what way you cut it.  TAR has had winners of countless backgrounds and relationship types.  If someone can't enjoy the show because it doesn't unfold the way that they don't want it to, I'd suggest creating a fan-fiction instead.  Or watch something scripted.  You're not going to get what you want from this show every time.  Life's not fair; womp womp.

Correct, life is not fair. And that’s exactly the point of all this - to make it fair.
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Post by: kyleisalive on September 17, 2023, 12:31:38 AM
Stacking the deck to aim for a FF win instead of letting it happen on its own doesn't demonstrate strength and doesn't support women.  There's no equality to setting things up differently to accommodate specific genders over others.  FF teams should win on normal, balanced seasons.  And more than that, if a FF team doesn't win, it's a lousy take that the season is lesser because literally anyone else won on their own merit.

When Will and James won TAR32, people on these forums complained that they shouldn't have.  IMO that's an idiotic take no matter what way you cut it.  TAR has had winners of countless backgrounds and relationship types.  If someone can't enjoy the show because it doesn't unfold the way that they don't want it to, I'd suggest creating a fan-fiction instead.  Or watch something scripted.  You're not going to get what you want from this show every time.  Life's not fair; womp womp.

Correct, life is not fair. And that’s exactly the point of all this - to make it fair.

That's a bit absurd in my opinion.  Redressing a perceived balance by putting other people aside to do it isn't equality; it isn't feminist; it isn't helpful for fairness.  It enforces the idea that the only way women can win on this show is if you have to give them extra help, only reinforcing that they can't do it themselves.

What you're suggesting isn't doing what you think it's doing.  It insists that women need to be coddled to victory.
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Post by: Traveldude1 on September 17, 2023, 12:29:10 PM
Just look at S17's and S25's winners for further proof. Amy/Maya were dead in the water, did mediocre all race, but got lucky because a bogus end of race twist that crowned them as one of the more controversial winners. And the cast of S17 was pretty slanted (arguably) with only 1 competitive co-ed team and no real M/M threat. Coddled? Maybe not, but definitely suspect.
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Post by: Brannockdevice on September 17, 2023, 01:36:47 PM
Stacking the deck to aim for a FF win instead of letting it happen on its own doesn't demonstrate strength and doesn't support women.  There's no equality to setting things up differently to accommodate specific genders over others.  FF teams should win on normal, balanced seasons.  And more than that, if a FF team doesn't win, it's a lousy take that the season is lesser because literally anyone else won on their own merit.

When Will and James won TAR32, people on these forums complained that they shouldn't have.  IMO that's an idiotic take no matter what way you cut it.  TAR has had winners of countless backgrounds and relationship types.  If someone can't enjoy the show because it doesn't unfold the way that they don't want it to, I'd suggest creating a fan-fiction instead.  Or watch something scripted.  You're not going to get what you want from this show every time.  Life's not fair; womp womp.

Correct, life is not fair. And that’s exactly the point of all this - to make it fair.

That's a bit absurd in my opinion.  Redressing a perceived imbalance by putting other people aside to do it isn't equality; it isn't feminist; it isn't helpful for fairness.  It enforces the idea that the only way women can win on this show is if you have to give them extra help, only reinforcing that they can't do it themselves.

What you're suggesting isn't doing what you think it's doing.  It insists that women need to be coddled to victory.

"Redressing a perceived imbalance by putting other people aside to do it isn't equality" so by this very logic, the race should be 100% physical, and only be run by the strongest, most physical and athletic teams. After all, having puzzles or memory challenges would be unfair to jocks because they aren't smart. In fact, let's no longer cast elderly couples. Dave and Margaretta, Peggy and Claire and Bill and Cathi should have never been cast because they aren't physical. Maybe we should change the race so that it is one episode only and whoever can lift the heaviest boulder can win the one million dollars.
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Post by: kyleisalive on September 17, 2023, 04:13:21 PM
Stacking the deck to aim for a FF win instead of letting it happen on its own doesn't demonstrate strength and doesn't support women.  There's no equality to setting things up differently to accommodate specific genders over others.  FF teams should win on normal, balanced seasons.  And more than that, if a FF team doesn't win, it's a lousy take that the season is lesser because literally anyone else won on their own merit.

When Will and James won TAR32, people on these forums complained that they shouldn't have.  IMO that's an idiotic take no matter what way you cut it.  TAR has had winners of countless backgrounds and relationship types.  If someone can't enjoy the show because it doesn't unfold the way that they don't want it to, I'd suggest creating a fan-fiction instead.  Or watch something scripted.  You're not going to get what you want from this show every time.  Life's not fair; womp womp.

Correct, life is not fair. And that’s exactly the point of all this - to make it fair.

That's a bit absurd in my opinion.  Redressing a perceived imbalance by putting other people aside to do it isn't equality; it isn't feminist; it isn't helpful for fairness.  It enforces the idea that the only way women can win on this show is if you have to give them extra help, only reinforcing that they can't do it themselves.

What you're suggesting isn't doing what you think it's doing.  It insists that women need to be coddled to victory.

"Redressing a perceived imbalance by putting other people aside to do it isn't equality" so by this very logic, the race should be 100% physical, and only be run by the strongest, most physical and athletic teams. After all, having puzzles or memory challenges would be unfair to jocks because they aren't smart. In fact, let's no longer cast elderly couples. Dave and Margaretta, Peggy and Claire and Bill and Cathi should have never been cast because they aren't physical. Maybe we should change the race so that it is one episode only and whoever can lift the heaviest boulder can win the one million dollars.

I think you’re reading what I’m saying and taking the opposite message.  I’m saying throw *anyone* in, but don’t stack the tasks to align more with typically-female-strong activities and don’t stack the cast with women to push a FF win.  Doing that would imply women need production meddling to win and can’t do it on their own merit.  And that is problematic.
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Post by: RachelLeVega on September 17, 2023, 07:13:00 PM
Just now seeing the cast info to surprise myself and did not realize that in addition to 90-min. episodes, I'm gonna have to memorize a 13-team ensemble.
(https://gifdb.com/images/thumbnail/jesus-take-the-wheel-drive-kj078s87z502d161.gif)
Please don't let it be a Scramble in the first leg again. :faint: CBS really shows no mercy for my phalanges.
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Post by: Parovic on September 17, 2023, 09:21:59 PM
Well at least the race is back to global route

not just S33/34/35 single/dual continent route tbh
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Post by: ianthebalance on September 20, 2023, 02:00:48 PM
I’ve been thinking about the casting more men than women on average and it made me remember a strange casting pattern: consistently casting same sex men couples but very rarely ever same sex women couples. That also contributes to the more men than women teams on the show
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Post by: Brannockdevice on September 21, 2023, 08:25:02 AM
Stacking the deck to aim for a FF win instead of letting it happen on its own doesn't demonstrate strength and doesn't support women.  There's no equality to setting things up differently to accommodate specific genders over others.  FF teams should win on normal, balanced seasons.  And more than that, if a FF team doesn't win, it's a lousy take that the season is lesser because literally anyone else won on their own merit.

When Will and James won TAR32, people on these forums complained that they shouldn't have.  IMO that's an idiotic take no matter what way you cut it.  TAR has had winners of countless backgrounds and relationship types.  If someone can't enjoy the show because it doesn't unfold the way that they don't want it to, I'd suggest creating a fan-fiction instead.  Or watch something scripted.  You're not going to get what you want from this show every time.  Life's not fair; womp womp.

Correct, life is not fair. And that’s exactly the point of all this - to make it fair.

That's a bit absurd in my opinion.  Redressing a perceived imbalance by putting other people aside to do it isn't equality; it isn't feminist; it isn't helpful for fairness.  It enforces the idea that the only way women can win on this show is if you have to give them extra help, only reinforcing that they can't do it themselves.

What you're suggesting isn't doing what you think it's doing.  It insists that women need to be coddled to victory.

"Redressing a perceived imbalance by putting other people aside to do it isn't equality" so by this very logic, the race should be 100% physical, and only be run by the strongest, most physical and athletic teams. After all, having puzzles or memory challenges would be unfair to jocks because they aren't smart. In fact, let's no longer cast elderly couples. Dave and Margaretta, Peggy and Claire and Bill and Cathi should have never been cast because they aren't physical. Maybe we should change the race so that it is one episode only and whoever can lift the heaviest boulder can win the one million dollars.

I think you’re reading what I’m saying and taking the opposite message.  I’m saying throw *anyone* in, but don’t stack the tasks to align more with typically-female-strong activities and don’t stack the cast with women to push a FF win.  Doing that would imply women need production meddling to win and can’t do it on their own merit.  And that is problematic.

I’m curious if you feel the same way about the 50% BIPOC rule. If that’s fair game then why not have 50% women?
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Post by: kyleisalive on September 21, 2023, 10:26:36 AM
I'm not sure I've ever brought up the BIPOC rule.  Frankly, I never really had a take on it.  I'm all for inclusivity on the show, but the rule plays a really weird game if you have to abide by hard-and-fast, locked-in teams every race.  If you're required to have 4 black teams, 4 latinx teams, 4 white teams, and now all of those also have to have one FF team, one MM team, and two MF teams every race, then sure, I guess?  It's still exclusionist to do something like that and opens the door to tokenism, which I think is very problematic.  Now you can set your watch to knowing that you can root for the token white FF team that's mandated to be on the show.  Hooray?

What I do support is CBS' effort to diversify casts.  The U.S. population is ~60% white. Close to ~20% of the U.S. is Hispanic.  ~12% of the U.S. is black.  It's a noble effort to find a balance in reality TV casting and it's a direction they should strive for, but if CBS wanted a balance reflective of the actual U.S. population as it is today, then there wouldn't be a balance (if that makes sense).  You would have six or seven white teams; two Hispanic teams, and one or two black teams.

More importantly, to me, is that the show is good.  I'll watch anyone who goes on the show; I trust the editors/producers to tell a compelling story no matter the players' backgrounds.  I'm not watching the show for divisions of races or genders because in my day-to-day I'm not really putting these in the forefront.  We should be normalizing a space where we're celebratory of people instead of constantly compensating (though I do agree we should be supportive of communities that are marginalized).  As I said in my past messages (that you've cascaded there), I'm not for pressing on the scale to force a win.  There is no celebration of diversity by outweighing female players.  Doing that only has viewers saying "well of course women were going to win-- CBS/TAR minimized the amount of men this season."  You instantly call the validity of the teams' successes into question the second you do that.

Let people win on their own merits.  Throw anyone into the race-- that goes for ages, genders, races, orientations-- since that mixing pot is part of the joy of the show.  Just don't force it.  Because that disingenuousness diminishes any attempt at balance.
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Post by: georgiapeach on September 23, 2023, 08:45:43 PM
I'm not sure I've ever brought up the BIPOC rule.  Frankly, I never really had a take on it.  I'm all for inclusivity on the show, but the rule plays a really weird game if you have to abide by hard-and-fast, locked-in teams every race.  If you're required to have 4 black teams, 4 latinx teams, 4 white teams, and now all of those also have to have one FF team, one MM team, and two MF teams every race, then sure, I guess?  It's still exclusionist to do something like that and opens the door to tokenism, which I think is very problematic.  Now you can set your watch to knowing that you can root for the token white FF team that's mandated to be on the show.  Hooray?

What I do support is CBS' effort to diversify casts.  The U.S. population is ~60% white. Close to ~20% of the U.S. is Hispanic.  ~12% of the U.S. is black.  It's a noble effort to find a balance in reality TV casting and it's a direction they should strive for, but if CBS wanted a balance reflective of the actual U.S. population as it is today, then there wouldn't be a balance (if that makes sense).  You would have six or seven white teams; two Hispanic teams, and one or two black teams.

More importantly, to me, is that the show is good.  I'll watch anyone who goes on the show; I trust the editors/producers to tell a compelling story no matter the players' backgrounds.  I'm not watching the show for divisions of races or genders because in my day-to-day I'm not really putting these in the forefront.  We should be normalizing a space where we're celebratory of people instead of constantly compensating (though I do agree we should be supportive of communities that are marginalized).  As I said in my past messages (that you've cascaded there), I'm not for pressing on the scale to force a win.  There is no celebration of diversity by outweighing female players.  Doing that only has viewers saying "well of course women were going to win-- CBS/TAR minimized the amount of men this season."  You instantly call the validity of the teams' successes into question the second you do that.

Let people win on their own merits.  Throw anyone into the race-- that goes for ages, genders, races, orientations-- since that mixing pot is part of the joy of the show.  Just don't force it.  Because that disingenuousness diminishes any attempt at balance.

Absolutely beautifully put. Agree 1000%. Thank you a million Kyle!!  :thankyou:
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Post by: Brannockdevice on September 24, 2023, 02:06:06 AM
I'm not sure I've ever brought up the BIPOC rule.  Frankly, I never really had a take on it.  I'm all for inclusivity on the show, but the rule plays a really weird game if you have to abide by hard-and-fast, locked-in teams every race.  If you're required to have 4 black teams, 4 latinx teams, 4 white teams, and now all of those also have to have one FF team, one MM team, and two MF teams every race, then sure, I guess?  It's still exclusionist to do something like that and opens the door to tokenism, which I think is very problematic.  Now you can set your watch to knowing that you can root for the token white FF team that's mandated to be on the show.  Hooray?

What I do support is CBS' effort to diversify casts.  The U.S. population is ~60% white. Close to ~20% of the U.S. is Hispanic.  ~12% of the U.S. is black.  It's a noble effort to find a balance in reality TV casting and it's a direction they should strive for, but if CBS wanted a balance reflective of the actual U.S. population as it is today, then there wouldn't be a balance (if that makes sense).  You would have six or seven white teams; two Hispanic teams, and one or two black teams.

More importantly, to me, is that the show is good.  I'll watch anyone who goes on the show; I trust the editors/producers to tell a compelling story no matter the players' backgrounds.  I'm not watching the show for divisions of races or genders because in my day-to-day I'm not really putting these in the forefront.  We should be normalizing a space where we're celebratory of people instead of constantly compensating (though I do agree we should be supportive of communities that are marginalized).  As I said in my past messages (that you've cascaded there), I'm not for pressing on the scale to force a win.  There is no celebration of diversity by outweighing female players.  Doing that only has viewers saying "well of course women were going to win-- CBS/TAR minimized the amount of men this season."  You instantly call the validity of the teams' successes into question the second you do that.

Let people win on their own merits.  Throw anyone into the race-- that goes for ages, genders, races, orientations-- since that mixing pot is part of the joy of the show.  Just don't force it.  Because that disingenuousness diminishes any attempt at balance.

It’s clear we have substantially different opinions that cannot be reconciled. I’m not going to be interacting further.

See you guys next season.
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Post by: ianthebalance on September 24, 2023, 03:45:46 AM
Best way to sum this up imo: there’s a difference between equal opportunity and equal outcome. We can argue that the show isn’t creating equal opportunity for the female contestants and minorities but even if everything is fully equal in team selection, task variance, etc; there shouldn’t and won’t be any guarantee of any specific type of team winning
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Post by: kyleisalive on September 24, 2023, 12:15:25 PM
Best way to sum this up imo: there’s a difference between equal opportunity and equal outcome. We can argue that the show isn’t creating equal opportunity for the female contestants and minorities but even if everything is fully equal in team selection, task variance, etc; there shouldn’t and won’t be any guarantee of any specific type of team winning

100%. People may not be happy with outcome, but the solution isn’t to ‘build a better show because you perceive it as injustice’.  In my opinion, that’s not only selfish, but insulting.

Further, expecting/hoping for certain teams to dominate has generally been proven divisive.  The minute a team wins a significant number of legs, the season becomes more predictable and you get viewers complaining about the foregone conclusion of the race.  This is part of why TAR36 is a bit worrying based on the news here, and part of why I figure CBS was originally hesitant to air it besides the obvious logistical issues.  We don’t need a FF Dave and Rachel running away with a season.  We didn’t even need Dave and Rachel running away with a season; it made for a season no one brings up in conversation because it was beyond dull.  If Tom and Tyler had won TARAUS4, people probably would have referred to it as the second-worst AUS season (because they won't stop ragging on the 5th).  Winning 9/12 legs is great for the team, sure, but it's bad for the value of the race.
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Post by: RachelLeVega on September 26, 2023, 10:28:51 PM
Just an eager reminder, T til 22 hours until the world premiere of TAR35!!!
Excited to have the race back on my TV screen again and can't wait to start updating at 8:30pm Central Time Zone and pregaming as much as I can with you all! Let the comeback of the commercial flights ruthlessly begin!
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhwQBBAvnF-p7sXF_17yoHjBzwxF6OO4k3nvZq9qVweHjBQToUMEozDMhm84CPrPh7-MqaHjQMwWIpg9y_qikLp4wtd8LA-uCuZp-LCaQCeHDFWw8mwteN8AIDaMPYJWQHxtmXb64x6Z4PQjTvHy4TQoh5sbpAtIk-_VVj90B0lVh3aDRMVUgFBTAWFRyw/w320-h220/mirna1.png)
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Post by: ianthebalance on September 26, 2023, 10:31:38 PM
I am more hyped for this season than I've been for a long time! Really like the cast, the 90 minutes, airports being back, etc
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Post by: georgiapeach on September 27, 2023, 12:00:23 AM
I am more hyped for this season than I've been for a long time! Really like the cast, the 90 minutes, airports being back, etc

Me too!!
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Post by: Jack3257 on September 27, 2023, 03:09:16 PM
I started watching TAR when I was 10.  I'm 21 now.  I don't follow the show as religiously as I used to, but I haven't been this excited for a season for a long time!  I think it will be very refreshing since we haven't had a "normal" season since 2020 (which was ironically the least normal time imaginable).  To put this in perspective, our last traditional season of TAR was when I was a freshmen in college who had just moved to California, I am now a senior and working in television.  If this were the route for season 33 I probably would have complained with more visits to Thailand, Vietnam, and India (especially the double legs in each).  However, now that we haven't seen Asia in so long I'm super excited (and we've never had a premiere leg in SE Asia before!).  We're also getting a new country, and overdue returns to Ireland and Sweden which haven't even been featured since we started getting seasons in HD.  Really, the only leg I'm not excited for is Germany, but only because we just had two Europe-centric seasons.
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Post by: CoriSanchi on September 27, 2023, 10:03:45 PM
I haven’t watched the premiere yet so I’m not at all speaking on the quality of it BUT it is a bit concerning to me that 6/7 of the top seven teams tonight make the actual top seven. Hope this isn’t a season where just a few teams dominate
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Post by: ianthebalance on September 28, 2023, 05:18:42 PM
Despite the limited info we have on leg 2 so far, I am hyped. Looks really cool to me
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Post by: ianthebalance on September 30, 2023, 12:24:29 AM
I have a concern that the first 3 legs might be too similar in some ways, especially the 2nd and 3rd. Boat travel on rivers in all 3 and having a task/clue at a market in the 2nd and 3rd.
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Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on September 30, 2023, 02:50:36 PM
I have a concern that the first 3 legs might be too similar in some ways, especially the 2nd and 3rd. Boat travel on rivers in all 3 and having a task/clue at a market in the 2nd and 3rd.
I’m wondering if Mother/Daughter team suffers a fate similar to S17’s Katie & Rachel — never seeing a team before they’re eliminated due to lack of bunching.
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Post by: ianthebalance on September 30, 2023, 04:03:07 PM
I have a concern that the first 3 legs might be too similar in some ways, especially the 2nd and 3rd. Boat travel on rivers in all 3 and having a task/clue at a market in the 2nd and 3rd.
I’m wondering if Mother/Daughter team suffers a fate similar to S17’s Katie & Rachel — never seeing a team before they’re eliminated due to lack of bunching.

In one of the press pics you can see the daughter waiting for her mother to finish the roadblock with several other teams (but likely finishing the task last because there’s a clip somewhere with the daughter seemingly cheering for her mother finishing while all alone)
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Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on October 04, 2023, 10:35:46 PM
I was very hesitant to hear about a possible all male F3, but 2 episodes in, I like them all and how they aren't your typical alpha M/M teams (you could argue Greg and John fit the alpha archetype, but it is very rare for black M/M teams to make it all the way to the end)

HOWEVER -- it's sad to see that all of the entertaining or breakdown-prone teams are gone by even the F4. Would've loved to have seen Jocelyn & Victor, Morgan & Lena or Joe & Ian make it further. I'm afraid those last episodes will be a bore to sit through.

I'm predicting that the entertainment value will drop immensely in a fashion similar to S22 (started out great, ended so boring). Hoping I'm wrong.
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Post by: ianthebalance on October 05, 2023, 01:10:16 AM
The quotes they used in the preview were pretty revealing lol

“We’re now in first and second”

“We’re in last”
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Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on October 12, 2023, 11:08:39 PM
What on earth do Joe and Ian do to get u turned lmao
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Post by: ianthebalance on October 15, 2023, 11:38:50 PM
I'm gonna be honest: unless there is more to the leg than being shown in the press pics, I don't know how this episode would fit 90 minutes well. Immediate start due to KOR, a detour, a roadblock, a pitstop that's in the same place as the roadblock, and not having to go outside Can Tho. When planning legs, they can't rely on having a high amount of teams be able to carry this episode unless there's something we're missing.

Edit: Additionally, I wouldn't have minded if we only had 11 legs this season so each episode could be full (only having one leg in Can Tho)
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Post by: redskevin88 on October 16, 2023, 06:20:55 AM
I'm gonna be honest: unless there is more to the leg than being shown in the press pics, I don't know how this episode would fit 90 minutes well. Immediate start due to KOR, a detour, a roadblock, a pitstop that's in the same place as the roadblock, and not having to go outside Can Tho. When planning legs, they can't rely on having a high amount of teams be able to carry this episode unless there's something we're missing.

Edit: Additionally, I wouldn't have minded if we only had 11 legs this season so each episode could be full (only having one leg in Can Tho)

I'm just curious how bad was the original TAR 35 season that they refused to air it?
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Post by: Malcooolm on October 17, 2023, 08:02:52 PM
I'm gonna be honest: unless there is more to the leg than being shown in the press pics, I don't know how this episode would fit 90 minutes well. Immediate start due to KOR, a detour, a roadblock, a pitstop that's in the same place as the roadblock, and not having to go outside Can Tho. When planning legs, they can't rely on having a high amount of teams be able to carry this episode unless there's something we're missing.

Edit: Additionally, I wouldn't have minded if we only had 11 legs this season so each episode could be full (only having one leg in Can Tho)
This is my fear too. I feel like with 90-minute episodes, most legs are gonna need a Detour, Roadblock, and Active Route Info so it doesn't drag on. Or an additional task like a Fast Forward or the Express Pass task. Just SOMETHING to fluff up the episodes. Especially when we get towards the end.
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Post by: ianthebalance on October 17, 2023, 09:55:12 PM
I'm gonna be honest: unless there is more to the leg than being shown in the press pics, I don't know how this episode would fit 90 minutes well. Immediate start due to KOR, a detour, a roadblock, a pitstop that's in the same place as the roadblock, and not having to go outside Can Tho. When planning legs, they can't rely on having a high amount of teams be able to carry this episode unless there's something we're missing.

Edit: Additionally, I wouldn't have minded if we only had 11 legs this season so each episode could be full (only having one leg in Can Tho)
This is my fear too. I feel like with 90-minute episodes, most legs are gonna need a Detour, Roadblock, and Active Route Info so it doesn't drag on. Or an additional task like a Fast Forward or the Express Pass task. Just SOMETHING to fluff up the episodes. Especially when we get towards the end.

With how obsessed the show is at "no non-elimination legs", the ironic thing is that if this was a regular non-elimination leg there would be an extra task with the speedbump to take up a few more minutes of time
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Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on October 19, 2023, 11:11:40 PM
Boot order is so horrid omg my dream F5 would be Morgan & Lena, Jocelyn & Victor, Joe & Ian, Andrea & Malaina, and Todd & Ashlie.
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Post by: Brannockdevice on October 21, 2023, 02:29:01 PM
Seems I'm not missing much eh
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Post by: Maanca on October 21, 2023, 03:34:29 PM
Seems I'm not missing much eh

Not a whole lot, no. They didn't add anymore tasks than usual for the 90 minutes, we get 40 minutes of teams running around a market.
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Post by: ianthebalance on October 30, 2023, 06:38:07 PM
Episode 6 could be good but the clips used for the sneak peaks were shockingly boring for sneak peaks imo
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Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on October 30, 2023, 07:59:07 PM
Agreed. One of the clips has 3/4 of the F3 at a task together and it was SOOOOO BORING
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Post by: Maanca on October 30, 2023, 08:41:45 PM
Can't believe I'm saying this considering the last 2 routes, but I'm so ready for this season to leave Asia (probably because it was double legs in 3 of their more frequented countries).

One more week 'til Germany, then the new country!
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Post by: ianthebalance on October 31, 2023, 07:06:48 PM
I'm very concerned about the state of the race now

Someone on reddit pointed out that you can see Liam/Yeremi, Robbin/Chelsea, Joe/Ian, and Todd/Ashlie casually sitting by a wall outside the Big Picture detour when frontrunners Morgan/Lena and Greg/John arrive. I went back to look and the redditor is correct. Are we really having mandatory breaks in between tasks now? Like I've heard of a break between the middle of keep on racing legs, and while I wish that wasn't the case, I at least get the logic. But now we're doing it between tasks? Has this been going on for a while and I just didn't know or is this new?
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Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on November 01, 2023, 10:28:42 PM
So episode 6 was the strongest episode of the season so far and the stars of the episode were Steve & Anna Leigh, Philly Jawns, and Morgan and Lena. Not even the final 3!!!! (Yes I will continue to bitch and moan about this)
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Post by: cbacbacba1 on November 01, 2023, 10:36:45 PM
So episode 6 was the strongest episode of the season so far and the stars of the episode were Steve & Anna Leigh, Philly Jawns, and Morgan and Lena. Not even the final 3!!!! (Yes I will continue to bitch and moan about this)
Joel & Garett are pretty boring at the moment except for some of random moments like Joel using his beard for shredding away tears.
Greg & John are always at the front but kind of invisible until this leg they got first and had a relatively big mat moment  :groan:
Rob & Corey are the only one with good character development at the moment

In this episode, I actually think every teams delivered, except the final 3 teams  :groan: That is horrible.
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Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on November 01, 2023, 11:34:06 PM
Some halfway highlights (these are positive, I promise!):

- casting is near top notch. Love the age diversity and the LACK OF REMOTELY FAMOUS PEOPLE
- I know it wasn’t a Fast Forward but the Express Pass challenge ALMOST felt like a FF, gave me old school TAR vibes (bonus points for it being a gross eating challenge! Definitely old school)
- the return of the taxi and tuktuks
- the return of flight booking even if it feels very much manufactured by production lol
- return of hours of operations! Return of bus travel!
- Alexandra and Sheridan’s indecisiveness in Leg 1
- Andrea & Malaina and Elizabeth & Iliana showdown at the market Detour in Leg 2
- the lotus RB in Leg 2 was so visually stunning and challenging
- speaking of challenging RB’s, every RB from Leg 1-6 has been challenging to some degree, I love it
- Morgan & Lena’s Express Pass play wasn’t the smartest but I’m kind of happy about how it played out? They caused so much discourse across social media/Reddit — it’s just what the Express Pass needed after growing stale some seasons ago
- Robbin & Chelsea’s shocking leg win + them being messy for no reason
- Jocelyn & Victor’s shocking elimination and getting the sad elimination farewell of the season — we haven’t had that since maybe Michelle & Victoria in S32?
- Yeremi’s serial killer face during the RB in India
- Epic race to the finish between Morgan & Lena and Joe & Ian
- I found the moment when Joe & Ian saw Morgan & Lena in front of them and Ian said “this doesn’t look too good. Trip of a lifetime.” They share a kiss, Joe “experience of a lifetime” to be so incredibly emotional even though it happened so fast
- the return of the U Turn
- OUT OF TOWNERS!!!  :funny:

I do have a BUNCH of nitpicks that I’m too tired to type out right now, but I do love this season so far and that’s why I’m dreading a potential decline in quality after such a strong start a la Season 22. The endgame isn’t looking too hot right now but fingers crossed.
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Post by: ianthebalance on November 02, 2023, 11:38:46 AM
I’m liking Joel/Garrett and Rob/Corey a lot. Though Greg/John are quite bland to me
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Post by: Straightfromtranslation on November 02, 2023, 11:56:03 AM
Steve & Anna Leigh are the easy highlights of the season.
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Post by: stunami on November 02, 2023, 12:04:00 PM
Some halfway highlights (these are positive, I promise!):

- I found the moment when Joe & Ian saw Morgan & Lena in front of them and Ian said “this doesn’t look too good. Trip of a lifetime.” They share a kiss, Joe “experience of a lifetime” to be so incredibly emotional even though it happened so fast


THAT MOMENT! I also thought it was super bittersweet, they realized they were probably out only for them to overtake the girls, but then to get stuck at that red light LOL but yeah I'm really loving this season, and if yesterday's leg is a tell at what's to come, then we are in for a good second half of the season.
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Post by: Straightfromtranslation on November 02, 2023, 12:16:17 PM
Some halfway highlights (these are positive, I promise!):

- I found the moment when Joe & Ian saw Morgan & Lena in front of them and Ian said “this doesn’t look too good. Trip of a lifetime.” They share a kiss, Joe “experience of a lifetime” to be so incredibly emotional even though it happened so fast


THAT MOMENT! I also thought it was super bittersweet, they realized they were probably out only for them to overtake the girls, but then to get stuck at that red light LOL but yeah I'm really loving this season, and if yesterday's leg is a tell at what's to come, then we are in for a good second half of the season.

Slovenia is going to be amazing...
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Post by: elthemagnifico on November 07, 2023, 01:23:53 AM
man seeing how good the first 6 eps were makes me even more nervous about tar "36", i just really hope tar '36' is at least enjoyable.

on another topic, i like how we get more tasks when team's numbers get decreased, starting from India 2 leg, i guess they reserved to put more tasks on early eps because there were so many racers, and they were at least trying to focus on the teams first, tho it meant some of the tasks/legs could be dragging of them trying to complete the task
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Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on November 09, 2023, 01:03:48 PM
It’s not 100% known who goes in Slovenia 1, right? (Sisters vs. Robbin and Chelsea)
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Post by: Malcooolm on November 09, 2023, 05:16:38 PM
It’s not 100% known who goes in Slovenia 1, right? (Sisters vs. Robbin and Chelsea)
Not 100% but social media activity during filming suggest it’s Morgan & Lena
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Post by: naejae91 on November 09, 2023, 07:01:02 PM
It’s not 100% known who goes in Slovenia 1, right? (Sisters vs. Robbin and Chelsea)
Not 100% but social media activity during filming suggest it’s Morgan & Lena

Idk I'm kinda feel iffy about the fact that we have to rely on social media activities to identify our boot order for 35 and "36" maybe because it feels like it came out of nowhere without any concrete prove.
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Post by: ghmorello on November 10, 2023, 04:28:15 PM
Based on what I've seen so far, I think Joel and Garret have a winner's edit going on.  Just a guess.
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Post by: Straightfromtranslation on November 10, 2023, 04:38:26 PM
To be honest, I think Rob and Corey have a winner's edit, but the casual audience will adore a final three of Rob and Corey, Joel and Garrett, and Greg and John. The show is painting these three as very heroic and likeable.
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Post by: ghmorello on November 10, 2023, 04:47:36 PM
To be honest, I think Rob and Corey have a winner's edit, but the casual audience will adore a final three of Rob and Corey, Joel and Garrett, and Greg and John. The show is painting these three as very heroic and likeable.

While painting the females as unlikeable with the edits that Anna Leigh and the Sisters have gotten.
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Post by: Amazing01 on November 10, 2023, 04:55:28 PM
The editing is really trying to make Anna Leigh unlikeable so it's easier for the audience to accept the All Male Final 3.
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Post by: Maanca on November 10, 2023, 05:28:53 PM
To be honest, I think Rob and Corey have a winner's edit, but the casual audience will adore a final three of Rob and Corey, Joel and Garrett, and Greg and John. The show is painting these three as very heroic and likeable.

While painting the females as unlikeable with the edits that Anna Leigh and the Sisters have gotten.

Robbin & Chelsea are getting a lot of casual haters too.

Yes, the edit definitely seems to be pointing us that way
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Post by: Brannockdevice on November 10, 2023, 05:51:32 PM
To be honest, I think Rob and Corey have a winner's edit, but the casual audience will adore a final three of Rob and Corey, Joel and Garrett, and Greg and John. The show is painting these three as very heroic and likeable.

While painting the females as unlikeable with the edits that Anna Leigh and the Sisters have gotten.

I haven't even been watching the season yet it seems like the misogynistic editing team is at it again. Bravo WRP
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Post by: kyleisalive on November 10, 2023, 06:07:20 PM
To be honest, I think Rob and Corey have a winner's edit, but the casual audience will adore a final three of Rob and Corey, Joel and Garrett, and Greg and John. The show is painting these three as very heroic and likeable.

While painting the females as unlikeable with the edits that Anna Leigh and the Sisters have gotten.

I haven't even been watching the season yet it seems like the misogynistic editing team is at it again. Bravo WRP

I think this take comes from a place of intentional ignorance though, since Andrea and Malaina have had nothing but support and positive memes from viewers.  This for a black FF team.

I'm not sure why anyone would want to come from that point of view, but whatever.  Dislike what you purposely don't know about.
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Post by: Brannockdevice on November 10, 2023, 07:18:43 PM
To be honest, I think Rob and Corey have a winner's edit, but the casual audience will adore a final three of Rob and Corey, Joel and Garrett, and Greg and John. The show is painting these three as very heroic and likeable.

While painting the females as unlikeable with the edits that Anna Leigh and the Sisters have gotten.

I haven't even been watching the season yet it seems like the misogynistic editing team is at it again. Bravo WRP

I think this take comes from a place of intentional ignorance though, since Andrea and Malaina have had nothing but support and positive memes from viewers.  This for a black FF team.

I'm not sure why anyone would want to come from that point of view, but whatever.  Dislike what you purposely don't know about.

That just it, I don't need to know anything. All I need to know is the final 3 to know that this season is a dumpster fire if I've ever seen one.
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Post by: kyleisalive on November 10, 2023, 07:28:35 PM
To be honest, I think Rob and Corey have a winner's edit, but the casual audience will adore a final three of Rob and Corey, Joel and Garrett, and Greg and John. The show is painting these three as very heroic and likeable.

While painting the females as unlikeable with the edits that Anna Leigh and the Sisters have gotten.

I haven't even been watching the season yet it seems like the misogynistic editing team is at it again. Bravo WRP

I think this take comes from a place of intentional ignorance though, since Andrea and Malaina have had nothing but support and positive memes from viewers.  This for a black FF team.

I'm not sure why anyone would want to come from that point of view, but whatever.  Dislike what you purposely don't know about.

...I don't need to know anything. All I need to know is...

So you're trolling with phrases like these, right?
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Post by: Brannockdevice on November 10, 2023, 07:42:22 PM
To be honest, I think Rob and Corey have a winner's edit, but the casual audience will adore a final three of Rob and Corey, Joel and Garrett, and Greg and John. The show is painting these three as very heroic and likeable.

While painting the females as unlikeable with the edits that Anna Leigh and the Sisters have gotten.

I haven't even been watching the season yet it seems like the misogynistic editing team is at it again. Bravo WRP

I think this take comes from a place of intentional ignorance though, since Andrea and Malaina have had nothing but support and positive memes from viewers.  This for a black FF team.

I'm not sure why anyone would want to come from that point of view, but whatever.  Dislike what you purposely don't know about.

...I don't need to know anything. All I need to know is...

So you're trolling with phrases like these, right?

No trolling, I genuinely believe everything I've said.
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Post by: Zack. on November 12, 2023, 10:04:14 PM
To what purpose would the show have to have a misogynistic edit (noting that editing is different from the actual casting or production of the race)? I recognize and agree with many of the criticisms levied against the show for how it casts all-female teams and to an extent how the challenges are structures but I can't agree with the editing being pro-this final three solely because they're all-male teams. In the last two weeks alone, Joe & Ian got a terrible edit while Liam & Yeremi got a good edit but even then the show was emphasizing how bad they were at the actual racing elements. My memory of modern seasons of TAR also do not suggest the show is edited to be pro-male (if anything it may be in the opposite direction, with people like Akbar and Dusty or teams like Will & James or Leo & Jamal having their better moments edited out or Raquel & Cayla's increasingly tense interactions edited out).

From what the cast has suggested, Anna-Leigh's competitive nature, Morgan & Leana's bickering, Robbin & Chelsea's brusque nature are the only real sources of conflict (and honestly these all pale in comparison to the conflict seen in the past) and even with that, the edit has shown multiple facets of all of these women - Anna-Leigh's relationship with her father went on a journey throughout the course of this episode, Morgan & Lena's bickering is a manifestation of their admitted issues in communication which I daresay they were cast for, and Robbin & Chelsea have had opportunities to explain why they come across as brash to other racers.

I recognize there are multiple ways of watching a season of TAR, but I think there's no point to watching the episodes if you already knew the final three in July and have deemed the season to be irredeemable as a result. I know the thread that I'm in so seeing bitching and moaning is par for the course but the argument of the edit being misogynistic feels rooted in bad faith. I could be wrong, and respect your ability to have an opinion either way.
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Post by: kyleisalive on November 13, 2023, 07:48:53 AM
To what purpose would the show have to have a misogynistic edit (noting that editing is different from the actual casting or production of the race)? I recognize and agree with many of the criticisms levied against the show for how it casts all-female teams and to an extent how the challenges are structures but I can't agree with the editing being pro-this final three solely because they're all-male teams. In the last two weeks alone, Joe & Ian got a terrible edit while Liam & Yeremi got a good edit but even then the show was emphasizing how bad they were at the actual racing elements. My memory of modern seasons of TAR also do not suggest the show is edited to be pro-male (if anything it may be in the opposite direction, with people like Akbar and Dusty or teams like Will & James or Leo & Jamal having their better moments edited out or Raquel & Cayla's increasingly tense interactions edited out).

From what the cast has suggested, Anna-Leigh's competitive nature, Morgan & Leana's bickering, Robbin & Chelsea's brusque nature are the only real sources of conflict (and honestly these all pale in comparison to the conflict seen in the past) and even with that, the edit has shown multiple facets of all of these women - Anna-Leigh's relationship with her father went on a journey throughout the course of this episode, Morgan & Lena's bickering is a manifestation of their admitted issues in communication which I daresay they were cast for, and Robbin & Chelsea have had opportunities to explain why they come across as brash to other racers.

I recognize there are multiple ways of watching a season of TAR, but I think there's no point to watching the episodes if you already knew the final three in July and have deemed the season to be irredeemable as a result. I know the thread that I'm in so seeing bitching and moaning is par for the course but the argument of the edit being misogynistic feels rooted in bad faith. I could be wrong, and respect your ability to have an opinion either way.

I feel much the same as this and echo my sentiment from a couple months ago.  It’s a massively problematic take to approach a program by insisting it tips the scales for women, providing a disingenuous result to support FF teams just because equality.  Similarly, spitting in the face of a season which has shown us a number of nuanced stories of complex women is crazy to me.  I don’t particularly care for Robbin and Chelsea (due to their approach to the race), but they made the choices they did this season.  And more than that, I think Robbin’s story is inspirational.  She’s a fascinating person with a tumultuous history persevering through life.

But OP would never know.  It’s more important not to prop up the existing casting choices because not only did they jump the gun and spoil the season for themselves months in advance, but they can’t come to terms with a result that don’t fit their take that FF teams are the only ones who should benefit.  This becomes a show, to them, that’s no longer about the race, but about combatting inequality.  Unfortunately, the producers aren’t aware of this.

That, or like I’ve been saying, it’s facetious.  But since I’ve been told otherwise, it’s just a deceptively non-feminist take.  More problematically, it’s an uninformed take.  It’s like never having had a woman doctor in your life and assuming there’s never been a woman doctor, so the world needs to change.
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Post by: georgiapeach on November 13, 2023, 03:23:54 PM
It also shows clearly that the final 3 is determined by whoever ran the best. Production isn't knocking out a male team to give us a variety finale.

The Finale is whatever three teams get to the end. Period.
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Post by: Maanca on November 13, 2023, 03:55:14 PM
Yeah, I give them credit. The FF teams in this season are definitely trying their hardest (Robbin & Chelsea won a leg), so they don't feel like "cannon fodder" casting. I'd agree more with Brannock if they all went out early.
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Post by: kyleisalive on November 13, 2023, 04:34:25 PM
Yeah, I give them credit. The FF teams in this season are definitely trying their hardest (Robbin & Chelsea won a leg), so they don't feel like "cannon fodder" casting. I'd agree more with Brannock if they all went out early.

The first five legs of the race had at least one female racer arrive on the mat in first place.
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Post by: Zack. on November 13, 2023, 05:50:05 PM
Also not for nothing but I think the tasks are less of a factor this season than most. Aside from Alexandra & Sheridan who made the reasonable choice to go to the sword dance only to fail at it repeatedly, the other teams had some sort of issue compounded by the leg they ran, be it issues with communicating, losing a war of attrition, being too impulsive in acting, being too passive in acting, or driving endlessly for hours.

The teams that remain are pretty evenly matched, and I think it's largely because they're able to work effectively as a team to handle the various challenges of the race, either by being supportive of each other constantly, by being able to resolve disagreements they may have, and/or by channeling their disagreements into action. Though Greg & John are starting to pull away from the rest of the group, it feels more like a season where anyone could win than others we've had in recent memory.
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Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on December 02, 2023, 07:17:07 AM
Seems like the first 5 legs were designed with quality over quantity in mind, and the remaining legs were quantity over quality.
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Post by: elthemagnifico on December 06, 2023, 09:38:49 AM
Damn if only Steve and Anna Leigh strategized their rb performance counts better, Steve wouldn't need to do 2 RBs on a very decisive leg :(
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Post by: Amazing01 on December 06, 2023, 10:05:52 PM
Without Steve & Anna Leigh, this season would be so boring. I'm glad they made it to Final 4.

Definitely Joel & Garret are the winners.
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Post by: Amazing01 on December 06, 2023, 10:10:20 PM
I really don't get the hyped on Rob & Corey tbh.
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Post by: ianthebalance on December 06, 2023, 10:25:44 PM
I'm glad that Joel/Garrett and Rob/Corey were able to each get a win before the final leg, especially after Greg/John won 4 in a row (glad to mix it up)
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Post by: angelbaby09 on December 07, 2023, 03:06:11 AM
Steve/Anna Leigh and Morgan/Lena i think are locked in for allstars
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Post by: smiley on December 07, 2023, 12:18:01 PM
I am actually kind of surprised it took so long for Rob/Corey to get a leg win.
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Post by: Maanca on December 07, 2023, 01:21:22 PM
The final leg is a Scramble?! Ooh, this is going to be interesting.

At least it will be easier to keep track of where 3 teams are as opposed to 12. The 34 premiere was just confusing.
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Post by: elthemagnifico on December 10, 2023, 09:19:51 PM
I thought the same with the scramble, its really interesting to have scramble on the most important leg of the race.

Not only it is much easier to track between teams, but also it adds another new layer of strategy, because the order you want to approach for the scramble challenge will be very important, it gives you more thinking, whether you want to approach task that's closer from the start of the scramble, or do you want to do the easier one first from your judgment. It looks really good on paper, but again it all comes down to the execution.

But also im very glad that the scramble isnt the only thing they need to do in the finale because there are still more tasks await them, including the memory challenge
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Post by: Amazing01 on December 10, 2023, 09:28:44 PM
I've just watched the promo of cbs for 2024 premiere and Greg & John are there.
Are they the real winner?
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Post by: jacfield on December 10, 2023, 09:36:13 PM
Quote
I've just watched the promo of cbs for 2024 premiere and Greg & John are there.
Are they the real winner?

Link?
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Post by: ianthebalance on December 10, 2023, 10:38:32 PM
I love that after all the moaning of an all male final 3 and people bracing for the reactions of when it aired and yet the general public seems to love this final 3  :2hearts:

I’m glad a lot of the public is able to look past gender
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Post by: Amazing01 on December 10, 2023, 10:52:26 PM
I love that after all the moaning of an all male final 3 and people bracing for the reactions of when it aired and yet the general public seems to love this final 3  :2hearts:

I’m glad a lot of the public is able to look past gender

The power of editing.
Anna Leigh was their scapegoat. Poor lady.
I'm glad that a lot of fans are really defending her.
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Post by: Brannockdevice on December 12, 2023, 10:14:52 AM
I love that after all the moaning of an all male final 3 and people bracing for the reactions of when it aired and yet the general public seems to love this final 3  :2hearts:

I’m glad a lot of the public is able to look past gender

I’m just hoping production doesn’t and use any sort of “public approval” as an excuse to cast even MORE men in Season 37. A nightmare scenario would be 6 MM, 2 FF & 3 MF
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Post by: kyleisalive on December 12, 2023, 11:45:58 AM
I love that after all the moaning of an all male final 3 and people bracing for the reactions of when it aired and yet the general public seems to love this final 3  :2hearts:

I’m glad a lot of the public is able to look past gender

I’m just hoping production doesn’t and use any sort of “public approval” as an excuse to cast even MORE men in Season 37. A nightmare scenario would be 6 MM, 2 FF & 3 MF

I'm not sure why this would ever be a thing considering the show has never had a track record for creating such a disparity unless it's seen from the other direction.  Based on past precedent we'd be more likely to see more MF teams, and generally FF teams win when there's more of them than MM teams (TAR17, for example, and TAR25).

I really think this is fear with no basis unless, again, the aim is to stack the deck in an effort to force a FF win.

Then again, as you've said, you haven't been watching this season so it's hard to tell if FF teams in general are something you're willing to support regardless, or only when the show is catering to your need for one to take the million.  I feel like you would have had a lot to say about the FF teams of TAR35 (which has been a solid season), but it seems like you're not in support considering the boycott.  So I'm not really sure what you're looking for besides pointing a finger at CBS for something you're not engaging with in the first place.

Also, if they use the past couple seasons as a template, there'll be thirteen teams, not eleven.
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Post by: Jro on December 12, 2023, 04:07:26 PM
Not to pile on but this season had 5 MM, 4 FF, 4 MF where do we randomly jump to a disparity. I dont understand what makes one think that they'll have a disparity just based on the public liking these teams.  They made it as even as you can with an odd number of teams and it'll probably stay that way. i mean theoretically, rob and Corey and joel and garrett arent even your stereotypical strong M/M teams. We got two middle aged guys and a father/son. Both teams rocked it but my point is that we didnt get an all M/M final 3 because of an overstacking of stereotypical strong male teams, and I doubt that the public likes them simply because they're M/M teams (I mean I'm a Rob/Corey fan but it has nothing to do with their gender and everything to do with how wholesome they are).
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Post by: Maanca on December 12, 2023, 04:17:46 PM
2 of the 3 FF teams who were eliminated 8th-6th showed up hours after all the other teams, so their losses came down to bad navigation.

Steve & Anna Leigh didn't make the final because they didn't balance their Roadblocks well (also, according to exit interviews, the episode cut where they got stuck in a parking garage for 45 minutes).

This result can't really be blamed on the race course being physically unfair against the women. It's just how things happened by their own merit.
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Post by: kyleisalive on December 12, 2023, 04:50:27 PM
Not to mention, the biggest finale disparities are as follows (listed 1st, 2nd, 3rd):
TAR1 (2001) - MM, MF, MM
TAR4 (2003) - MM, MF, MM
TAR9 (2006) - MM, MM, MF
TAR11 (2007) - MF, FF, FF
TAR16 (2010) - MM, MM, MF
TAR17 (2010) - FF, FF, MF
TAR21 (2012) - MM, MM, MF
TAR31 (2019) - MF, MM, MM
TAR32 (2020) - MM, MF, MM

Keeping in mind that the winners in three of those were gay male couples (TAR4, TAR21, TAR32) if we're looking for diversity's sake.
This of course, with the first-ever U.S. MM, MM, MM happening right now.

It means that 3 out of 4 seasons of the show have a strongly healthy balance of genders in the finale which, again, leads me to believe that the concern here is based on pretty much nothing except an eagerness to point the finger.  A reminder that pressing the finger on the scale to overweigh and facilitate FF victories is not a feminist stance; it's insists on the idea that women need intervention to succeed.  It delegitimizes the show and diminishes their actual successes.
Title: Re: TAR 35 (formerly called 36): Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: ghmorello on December 12, 2023, 09:23:34 PM
I love that after all the moaning of an all male final 3 and people bracing for the reactions of when it aired and yet the general public seems to love this final 3  :2hearts:

I’m glad a lot of the public is able to look past gender

The power of editing.
Anna Leigh was their scapegoat. Poor lady.
I'm glad that a lot of fans are really defending her.

I don't get why people are defending Anna Leigh so much.
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Post by: kyleisalive on December 12, 2023, 11:10:46 PM
I love that after all the moaning of an all male final 3 and people bracing for the reactions of when it aired and yet the general public seems to love this final 3  :2hearts:

I’m glad a lot of the public is able to look past gender

The power of editing.
Anna Leigh was their scapegoat. Poor lady.
I'm glad that a lot of fans are really defending her.

I don't get why people are defending Anna Leigh so much.

Probably to balance out the negativity; there's a lot of it coming from social media, similar to how Robbin and Chelsea were getting negative reception for their actions during certain legs of the race.  It's mostly just people reading deeper into her relationship with her father than what the show conveys, as though high-stress situations don't lead to tension already.
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Post by: Zack. on December 13, 2023, 10:01:25 AM
It also feels like the lack of any obvious villains makes Anna-Leigh look worse in comparison. This isn't the worst set of interactions between a parent/child team, to say nothing of the numerous other romantic or friendship based teams who bickered often.

That said I think this season amongst fandom in general (not necessarily here) there's this weird tendency to purity test or gatekeep how exactly the teams should be acting in TAR - maybe this is a response to TAR 34 where therewas hardly any conflict but a) those legs were super short and b) apparently they also had conflict edited out. Perhaps it's a reaction to the edit, where we aren't seeing the teams *so* exhausted towards the end of a leg or the race to where one could make the mental connection between "they're tired and hungry and stressed" and "they're acting like that".
Title: Re: TAR 35 (formerly called 36): Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: kyleisalive on December 13, 2023, 11:35:57 AM
It also feels like the lack of any obvious villains makes Anna-Leigh look worse in comparison. This isn't the worst set of interactions between a parent/child team, to say nothing of the numerous other romantic or friendship based teams who bickered often.

That said I think this season amongst fandom in general (not necessarily here) there's this weird tendency to purity test or gatekeep how exactly the teams should be acting in TAR - maybe this is a response to TAR 34 where therewas hardly any conflict but a) those legs were super short and b) apparently they also had conflict edited out. Perhaps it's a reaction to the edit, where we aren't seeing the teams *so* exhausted towards the end of a leg or the race to where one could make the mental connection between "they're tired and hungry and stressed" and "they're acting like that".

It's not just last season.  This past week, people were talking trash about the winners of TAR32 on Reddit for ruining their season.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheAmazingRace/comments/18deot6/definitely_agree/

Will and James are still getting flac five years after they filmed.  A few days ago James(?) brought up the fact that despite the alliance, everyone on the outside of Mine Five were eliminated despite their actions (Michelle and Victoria getting lost in Paris, Leo and Alana flopping a Detour in Kazakhstan, Kaylynn and Haley getting stuck at at the app Detour in India) as other racers fell so far behind of their own accord that interference was negligible.  Didn't matter though; people don't care when what they see onscreen isn't giving them the narrative they want.  They want reality TV, but with guardrails.

What I think is prevalent is that people these days are more inclined to be vocal about smaller things, expecting that all change comes from "I don't like this so change it".  There was negativity back in the show's early days (Flo, anyone?), but the internet these days fosters a sense of group camaraderie where people on social media can feel like part of the group for railing, hard, against common negativity, no matter how slight.  People are used to negative feedback loops; it's harder for people to say what they like or spin something constructively, so they don't.  After all-- they get upvotes and responses, good or bad, just by saying the negative stuff.
Title: Re: TAR 35 (formerly called 36): Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Amazing01 on December 13, 2023, 09:54:15 PM
So the promo of CBS for 2024 that i've watched spoiled the winner! Congrats Greg & John!
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Post by: ghmorello on December 13, 2023, 11:05:56 PM
So the promo of CBS for 2024 that i've watched spoiled the winner! Congrats Greg & John!

Where did you see the promo?
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Post by: elthemagnifico on December 24, 2023, 05:37:47 AM
Strolling on imdb and i noticed that this season had the highest average rating/score of any season of TAR (somewhere between 8.3 and 8.4; and yes even beating the most fave seasons according to fans), with the season finale being the highest rating so far with 8.8, while 3 eps prior season finale (ep8, 10, and 11) shared the highest rating in any non finale episode (8.5). that was impressive, even tho it is debatable whether imdb was being the most reliable platform to judge a season/episode.
Title: Re: TAR 35 (formerly called 36): Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 25, 2023, 12:18:31 AM
Promised to draw a season-in-retrospect opinion during my finale live updates. Somehow I forgot to do that last week, so I will do it now while it's still relative.

TAR35 is a season of recovery. After a couple seasons where pre-arranged flights and pandemic measures tied up how and where teams traveled, production utilized that downtime to give the spectrum of transportation a return with a bang. At the end of it, they went above and beyond what I had originally expected. It utilized a full arsenal of locomotion! We got flight battles (the coveted premiere flight check-in counters, even standby placement thanks to Todd & Ashlie and Rob & Corey!), sampan navigation and strategizing (Can Tho's floating market), ferry errors (Robbin & Chelsea and Andrea & Malaina), a train connection risk (leading teams trying to make the farfetched Graz, Austria stop), a glider Roadblock, and local public transportation drama (Stockholm's subway system with Steve & Anna featuring the bus). I was overwhelmed with joy when I saw the outcome of older-contemporary and new-school elements converging like the Express Pass remodeled to function as an inverse Fast Forward task, an anonymous U-Turn that I first saw play out on the Australian version, and the most recent stress test of the Scramble to vanquish a linear feeling during the Seattle finale. Slovenia's first leg, my favorite episode in years, shortly defines this season for me: chaotic, variated, and quite a step - or a 1,000+ like Rob & Corey and Steve & Anna achieved - in the right direction. The whole of this brought back a core love of what makes TAR so great to watch for me. Traveling in different styles and encountering the unexpected. Besides a couple gripes involving legs (Leg 2 where barely any placement shifts occurred and Dublin's tasks paling in comparison), I loved what came out of this season!

"Out of towners!": I feel this has been the most memorable collective we've seen in a good while. We got teams who made fast, tough decisions and carried on (Elizabeth & Iliana trusting their gut at the first Detour, Morgan & Lena's controversial/advantageous Detour switch in India), teams who crashed and burned (Jocelyn & Victor's downfall after Thailand, Andrea & Malaina's money changer misfortune), and teams who sided with risk (Todd & Ashlie and Steve & Anna for the most part). I enjoyed a lot of the personalities we saw this season. None of them pushed my buttons beyond, but I do think the editing continues to have this problem of stale or neutral showings for some long-lasting teams like Robbin & Chelsea, Liam & Yeremi, Greg & John, and as much as others may disagree, Rob & Corey. Much like a comment I have for the most recent seasons, I would've liked to see more character development through their raw clips from the race than them narrating the obvious over the tasks and navigation. Todd & Ashlie, Morgan & Lena, and Joel & Garrett had the best storylines of the season and I wish other teams had been shown to the degree Todd and Joel were shown playing along and interacting between tasks and such. Anna asking around who U-Turned them, fun moment for me to see. Rob & Corey figuring out in realtime how to aim the soccer balls onto their dartboard and their Detour switch to the barnacles after the buoy blunder, awesome, just don't spoil their strategy mid-task to the audience from their post-leg thought process. Leave it as a CBS extra. The marathon of three teams figuring out where to run to find the Stromparterren in Stockholm versus Joel & Garrett bumbling to 1st, beautiful! Sometimes I wish they wouldn't put soooooo many confessionals in between tasks. Loved the music choices throughout this season, we got classic race tunes, and I was excited for each episode. I wish we were given more complex and unique interactions from teams.

"Who's feeling balanced?": Tasks had the potential to be a lot better and more entertaining to watch. In the first four legs, I believe we got three tasks finding/placing stuff in a market (Thai language grocery list, floating market, Vietnamese seafood market). Thank goodness we didn't visit Pike Place during the finale for fish throwing otherwise I think I would've let out a giant sigh. Lol. I would've only kept the floating market task in Can Tho, but replaced the other two with another task elsewhere. The mattress delivery task, although fun to see for some teams, did not live up to the emphasis of the amount of mattresses itself like the Detour option I watched in TAR10's Madagascar leg, but it did surpass the fit-a-ladder-through-a-stairwell Detour in TAR29. I would've settled with a more Can Tho-centric task at the end of the day. The peacock stamps Roadblock I wish they would've done a 6 or 7-in-a-row rule rather than 9 at any time to get the teams riled up - it had the potential to have teams distraught, crying, and relieved in disbelief to become the most remembered task in modern TAR. Besides the latter half of Dublin and the Nobel Laureates task where we got a smorgasbord of French-named foods over Swedish-named, Europe killed it this time around. The barnacles vs. mussels Detour at Fonda Fish Farm felt like a classic TAR Detour. Loved the frenzy that ensued for the Express Pass task and teams finding Neboticnik before the Pit Stop in the same leg (with originally everyone in the live updates thinking it was going to be a TBC :lol3:). Mustard categorizing was impressive to watch from these teams as I would've probably had to take the penalty or crying over switching because of my lack of football skills. I loved the Seattle leg at night. A little bummed that we likely would have gotten a task involving those iconic emblemed seaplanes from the final memory task had it been daytime, but the kayaks sufficed. The Scramble was better to follow with three teams than the absolute chaos of updating the action of 12 teams last season. Can we please not make it 14 next season... I'm begging.

Pass interference: Something that occurred that stood out to me this season was Steve & Anna receiving a tip from a supposed task supervisor during the India leg where they were U-Turned that they did not hand the receipts over to the flower vendor before proceeding to the bricks task. This interference is something quite new to see on TV and I wish a source here, or Phil, or production would clarify exactly what happened because it doesn't seem fair as other teams in the past would've been ignored and prone to a penalty on the mat. Why now, what is Steve & Anna's account of the event?

The final three: I'm actually impressed we managed to see an all-male final three after 35 seasons. There has always been at least one co-ed team in the mix, so to me, that's a once-in-a-while achievement. I was not expecting Greg & John to pull off a win after falling behind at the glassblowing studio. I'm happy they were able to get their incredible journey and wish their futures well. Rob & Corey and Margie & Luke need to meet! (Peach, make it happen :2hearts:). That's all I want to say. I feel like it would be such a surreal moment to see a legacy family team who use ASL from the older season meet with an iconic new one. Joel & Garrett, they had it so close in the bag! I was rooting for them to pull through at the kayaks and hoping it wasn't another instance of a Henry & Evan mistake. Loved their Ken & Gerard-like energy throughout the show and I really found it endearing how they underestimated themselves the whole time while they were ironically a pretty strong team overall.

If I only had 1 gif to draw a conclusion:
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/OQpgzXCoPWdC7dEwdN/giphy.gif)

(Merry Christmas! :cmas20)
Title: Re: TAR 35 (formerly called 36): Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: Jack3257 on December 25, 2023, 02:37:37 PM

Pass interference: Something that occurred that stood out to me this season was Steve & Anna receiving a tip from a supposed task supervisor during the India leg where they were U-Turned that they did not hand the receipts over to the flower vendor before proceeding to the bricks task. This interference is something quite new to see on TV and I wish a source here, or Phil, or production would clarify exactly what happened because it doesn't seem fair as other teams in the past would've been ignored and prone to a penalty on the mat. Why now, what is Steve & Anna's account of the event?


Since they were already U-turned I think they were not going to receive a clue for the first task.  The challenge supervisor told them they did not complete the first side of the detour, and were not able to begin the second task until they did so.
Title: Re: TAR 35 (formerly called 36): Bitch, Moan & Squeal Here! *POSSIBLE SPOILERS!*
Post by: kyleisalive on December 25, 2023, 03:53:05 PM
Strolling on imdb and i noticed that this season had the highest average rating/score of any season of TAR (somewhere between 8.3 and 8.4; and yes even beating the most fave seasons according to fans), with the season finale being the highest rating so far with 8.8, while 3 eps prior season finale (ep8, 10, and 11) shared the highest rating in any non finale episode (8.5). that was impressive, even tho it is debatable whether imdb was being the most reliable platform to judge a season/episode.

I think this is generally a time-will-tell thing.  All the older seasons have years of normalized ratings; this season is a fresh one with a number of likeable finalists.  A greater tell is the upswing in viewers towards the end of the season, which is a really promising sign for the show in general.  Generally viewership declines through the season; this season ended with viewership beating the premiere from Slovenia onward.

Despite the small amount of dissenters on Reddit and socials claiming the players were boring, it's a good indication that those whiners are the real minority and the show's striking the winning combination.  I figure we'll see more seasons like it when the last COVID season is aired and done with.  No need for a gimmick like all-women.
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Post by: georgiapeach on December 26, 2023, 09:48:29 AM
Merry Christmas to you as well Rachel! This is a Christmas gift indeed! Your summaries and insights are purely wonderful...thank you a zillion for doing them for us!
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Post by: Brannockdevice on March 19, 2024, 03:21:59 PM
Not sure where this would go, but has anyone noticed the Wikipedia page is not updated with the route of the season? Is anyone able to do this?