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Title: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Oddarane on May 13, 2014, 04:56:01 PM
Any idea when the next season starts filming?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Cheesefeet on May 13, 2014, 06:15:49 PM
They haven't updated the casting website which states that filing would take place in May or June. I am thinking it will probably be shortly after the finale or maybe the beginning of June. It can't come soon enough though. :)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: georgiapeach on May 14, 2014, 12:55:45 AM
 :<3
 
 
 
nice new thread for y'all!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 14, 2014, 01:28:52 AM
Hoping for a far better season than the previous!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 14, 2014, 04:29:05 AM
Ah! Yay, a TAR25 thread! Perfect timing.

So this might even be considered a spoiler, but Bertram Van Munster visited the Philippines two weeks ago.  TV5 welcomed him of course, like a courtesy call kind of thing.  So other than to chat about TARPh, some speculated that Bertram must have been in the Philippines scouting locations for TAR25.

And in this new commercial to promote TARPh2, Bertram mentions (TAR?) having been to the Philippines "several" times and saying "it's high time [they] came back."
https://www.youtube.com/v/CQfonAL8SCs

So TARUS' return to the Philippines may be very very soon.

Also interesting in that little interview with Bertram, he mentions casting being "the secret," I guess to a good show.  Heh, I guess he hasn't been following that advice considering the casts we've gotten on TARUS lately. lol
Hopefully TAR25 has an AMAZING cast.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 14, 2014, 04:47:06 AM
^Agreed and an amazing route to make up for this bleh route.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 14, 2014, 05:42:47 AM
If we have a leg in the Philippines, I hope they visit two areas in the Philippines. One Urban (Manila? idk lol) and one tropical. I think it would be the best way to showcase the Philippines as a beautiful country. And it would be potentially drama-filled too because right now, the temperature in the Philippines is at 33 degrees everyday and the heat might lead to meltdowns :lol:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: NumfarPTB on May 14, 2014, 08:19:04 AM
http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2014/05/14/cbs-announces-its-2014-2015-primetime-schedule-363103/20140514cbs01/

And TAR is getting a new time slot on the fall.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: georgiapeach on May 14, 2014, 09:26:36 AM
Let's discuss the time change over here? Thanks!

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,30000.msg1000385.html#msg1000385
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 14, 2014, 11:37:54 AM
If we have a leg in the Philippines, I hope they visit two areas in the Philippines. One Urban (Manila? idk lol) and one tropical. I think it would be the best way to showcase the Philippines as a beautiful country. And it would be potentially drama-filled too because right now, the temperature in the Philippines is at 33 degrees everyday and the heat might lead to meltdowns :lol:
They will have to go to Tuguegarao then.  Hottest city in the Philippines!

I hope it's a Westbound route if they really are going to the Philippines (whether TAR25 or TAR26).  They need as many teams in the Philippines as possible, not just four like TAR5. :hoot:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Caelestor on May 14, 2014, 12:03:32 PM
I imagine budget cuts are coming, so that's factored into the analysis below.

I do agree Philippines is highly overdue, and we'll be seeing two legs there next season, perhaps as the starting country. In recent years, the location of the final leg determines the route direction (westward or eastward) of the race. Since TAR 13, only 14, 16, 17, 20, and 23 traversed eastward because the finales were in Alaska, Hawaii, or the West Coast. The odds are favoring a Midwest/East Coast finish.

Other countries I'm favoring: 2 legs in India (classic destination that hasn't been featured in a while). Bangkok is a good transit point and it's been a while since Thailand, so let's add that in. 5 legs in Asia, which is good enough already.

Europe would be 4 legs. Rule out UK, Spain, Italy, Switzerland, Portugal, Norway, Austria, Norway. This leaves France as a probable penultimate leg, a possible leg in Germany right before, and two other legs somewhere away from Western Europe. The Baltics are probably nice this time of the year.

In addition to Europe and Asia, two legs in Africa are likely if TAR doesn't want to lose further favor with its audience. They can be anywhere where there isn't unrest going on. I would strongly consider the duo of Durban/Cape Town if I were the producers, though I still hope for a new country at some point before TAR goes off the air...

Lastly, I wouldn't mind if TAR only had 10 teams per race and the first leg was always TBC/NEL. The 11th team usually doesn't make an impression, and it's an easy way to reduce costs. With the way casting is going lately, fewer teams is probably better.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: claude_24hrs on May 15, 2014, 07:19:32 AM
I like your analysis, Caelestor, and guessing will have 5 legs in Asia. South Korea could be the starting country, with direct flights to Seoul from Los Angeles. Despite Seoul be the first destination, I agreed on that.

Dryedmangoez, I also like the Philippines and I agreed on it, after having not visited since TAR5, Manila would have a chance to scout of one of the Philippine legs. Being a Filipino and I will give support to my country.

Europe's good too and will given 3-4 legs. Hungary would be good and it never had its full leg on American TAR. Finland never have had a full leg before, despite the last visit had no Pit Stop. Belgium is more possibly and Germany could be ruled out like the UK, Spain, Switzerland, Italy, Austria, Norway and Portugal. Belgium is a good location in Western Europe, it could have a leg there and was last visited in TAR 19. This would be the second country that debuted from TAR 19 after an overused Indonesia.

I bet there is a chance to have South America for the Penultimate Leg, this rules out Chile, and Peru would be possible.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Alenaveda on May 15, 2014, 09:11:45 AM
Hungary was visited by TAR in season 6 having two legs there (episodes 6 and 8, the first as the second part of the one started in Germany and the second leg full in that country - the famous spicy soup RB included -).
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: fossil-racer on May 16, 2014, 06:08:42 PM
I would not be surprised if this season was another all stars or newbies.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: MrDeerShank on May 16, 2014, 06:24:43 PM
I would not be surprised if this season was another all stars or newbies.

What else would it be? A herd of donkeys running the race?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: fossil-racer on May 16, 2014, 06:35:26 PM
I would be surprised if it was fans vs favs

Bring back brooke and claire
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theamazingracer21 on May 16, 2014, 08:50:41 PM
I have heard something about the show moving to Fridays. If so that works out well for me (I can watch live on Saturday morning) but I don't think it's a good sign. Maybe CBS think by putting it on a night with an older demographic, TAR can be #1 in the 18-49 demographic (and their 18-49 numbers were lacking on the original Sunday time-slot)

If I can find a source then I will show it.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theamazingracer21 on May 16, 2014, 08:58:30 PM
Ok I found a source

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/cbs-moving-the-amazing-race-new-night-this-fall-16327.php
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Alenaveda on May 16, 2014, 09:17:24 PM
We already have a thread for that  ;):

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,30000.0.html
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theamazingracer21 on May 16, 2014, 10:41:20 PM
Sorry
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 17, 2014, 12:19:47 AM
I was bored and compiled most of everything said in this thread. So here you go:

TASKS & ROUTE MARKERS
- a good, difficult, confusing finale memory challenge
- increase number of U-Turns, and/or bring back Yield, Intersection, Hazard, and single U-Turns
- a difficult starting line task
- increase the number of night legs
- increase self-navigation and self-driving
- bring back the departure time slots for the next day of the earlier seasons
- odd eliminations (e.g. at Keep Racing legs, double-elimination at Leg 11)
- remove Keep Racing legs if it's not going to be a double-length leg with a bunching transportation in between.
- choose another starting line city
- visit new countries and one-time visited countries more
- no linear tasks, get tasks that are confusing and would take timeand change placements (and not 5-minute tasks where teams finish in the order they went in. IIRC, they used to cut those out of the episode, and now...)
- increase difficulty of all tasks, especially Fast Forwards
- present Fast Forward as a strategic option rather than an auto-first place button. And never just have ONE Fast Forward per season (e.g. 4 to 6)
- try a season of not visiting Asia
- allow teams the more freedom of choice for transportation

EDITING
- more than one-hour premieres (1.5 or 2 hours long) that features only the first leg, making it a difficult one.
- return the suspenseful and grandeur feeling of the music of the pre-S18 seasons.
- DO NOT encourage team theme songs
- add effects akin to TAR Canada and TAR Australia
- don't skip any teams' arrival and finishes in tasks and clue boxes, I mean c'mon.
- don't cut the intro's team montage
- equal airtime for teams

OTHERS
- the location signpost at each pit stop.
- return of the Elimination Station.
- Behind the Scenes type of program for TAR
- make clues so teams actually have to decipher them.
- allow teams to find a Fern (a local tag-along helping a team)
- allow teams to interact with each other during downtime and show some of it
- add a fresh twist per season
- cut teams evenly (e.g. for production-provided flights) but never too far apart

CASTING
- change of mechanics of casting the teams
- increase everyday people teams and decrease used-to-camera teams or pro-athlete teams
- return of teams from the very early seasons for an All Star season (S1-S13, S19)
- increase number of all-female teams per season (constant number 4 MM teams, and a record 8 MF teams in S6)

A compilation from the "Changes Viewers would like to see" thread. My spec is... maybe TAR might follow some/most of these.
Look at the 2-hour finale thread someone posted, and the rest added their complains there. My guess is... TAR saw it, and so they turned TAR24's finale into a 1 leg/hour finale.
Those I speculate might be done this coming season are boldfaced from the quote.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 17, 2014, 03:01:41 AM
I would not be surprised if this season was another all stars or newbies.

(http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131017164655/cardfight/images/a/af/You-dont-say.jpeg)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 18, 2014, 12:25:20 PM
I have heard something about the show moving to Fridays. If so that works out well for me (I can watch live on Saturday morning) but I don't think it's a good sign. Maybe CBS think by putting it on a night with an older demographic, TAR can be #1 in the 18-49 demographic (and their 18-49 numbers were lacking on the original Sunday time-slot)

If I can find a source then I will show it.
;no :'( As much as Friday nights seem like a good idea, it's ultimately the usual time slot where SERIES ARE CANCELLED! Ever heard of the "Friday night death slot"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_night_death_slot#CBS
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: georgiapeach on May 18, 2014, 02:47:36 PM
We are talking about the timeshift here! :waves:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,30000.0.html
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Bookworm on May 18, 2014, 08:13:21 PM
Because the interview with Phil said, "new faces, new places," I'm hoping that they visit new countries, countries visited once, AND new destinations in "usual" countries. It would be appreciated if said destinations are culturally inspiring and make people rethink how they view a particular country or two. I also think that it will be all newbies this season, based on the statement.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 18, 2014, 09:36:13 PM
omg, can they start racing next week so we can quickly get TAR24 out of our heads?

...

I hope in addition to making the improvements that have been listed by fans here and everywhere else, I hope they have some nice surprises in store for the 25th season.  They've got to do something special for this milestone season, yes?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 18, 2014, 09:40:34 PM
omg, can they start racing next week so we can quickly get TAR24 out of our heads?

...

I hope in addition to making the improvements that have been listed by fans here and everywhere else, I hope they have some nice surprises in store for the 25th season.  They've got to do something special for this milestone season, yes?

Yes please! I imagine we'll have some India this coming season and either a visit to Africa or Oceania.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 18, 2014, 10:20:18 PM
I hope they have some nice surprises in store for the 25th season.  They've got to do something special for this milestone season, yes?

A DYM? ??? A 6 continent race? ??? New locations definitely.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: TARFansurvivor on May 19, 2014, 09:14:41 AM
omg, can they start racing next week so we can quickly get TAR24 out of our heads?

...

I hope in addition to making the improvements that have been listed by fans here and everywhere else, I hope they have some nice surprises in store for the 25th season.  They've got to do something special for this milestone season, yes?

Yes please! I imagine we'll have some India this coming season and either a visit to Africa or Oceania.

Yes so true, they really have to make TAR 25 one the best ones, after TAR 24 wich was not in my top teen.

So another start city then L.A. new countries, cool teams and showcase the Places they go to much better!!!!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: claude_24hrs on May 19, 2014, 10:13:20 AM
omg, can they start racing next week so we can quickly get TAR24 out of our heads?

...

I hope in addition to making the improvements that have been listed by fans here and everywhere else, I hope they have some nice surprises in store for the 25th season.  They've got to do something special for this milestone season, yes?

Yes please! I imagine we'll have some India this coming season and either a visit to Africa or Oceania.

Speaking of new countries, there are many one-time countries haven't been visited in ages for TAR25 and need to revisit. I posted back in first page Hungary, Finland, Belgium and Peru are likely to visit.

South Africa hasn't visited since TAR7 and also needs to visit, as Caelestor stated on visiting Durban or Cape Town.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: amazing1604 on May 20, 2014, 07:39:42 AM
omg, can they start racing next week so we can quickly get TAR24 out of our heads?

...

I hope in addition to making the improvements that have been listed by fans here and everywhere else, I hope they have some nice surprises in store for the 25th season.  They've got to do something special for this milestone season, yes?

Yes please! I imagine we'll have some India this coming season and either a visit to Africa or Oceania.

Speaking of new countries, there are many one-time countries haven't been visited in ages for TAR25 and need to revisit. I posted back in first page Hungary, Finland, Belgium and Peru are likely to visit.

South Africa hasn't visited since TAR7 and also needs to visit, as Caelestor stated on visiting Durban or Cape Town.

I'm not pretty sure about Peru and I think South America will not appear this season. It's likely to be Africa, since we have Southeast Asia (Phillippines - hope so!  :colors )

And about Europe, I'm pretty sure they're going east this season. AAAANNDD if they're planning to go to the Balkans, it WILL NOT be a good idea since Balkan is flooding right now  :gaah:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 20, 2014, 06:14:46 PM
omg, can they start racing next week so we can quickly get TAR24 out of our heads?

...

I hope in addition to making the improvements that have been listed by fans here and everywhere else, I hope they have some nice surprises in store for the 25th season.  They've got to do something special for this milestone season, yes?

Yes please! I imagine we'll have some India this coming season and either a visit to Africa or Oceania.

Speaking of new countries, there are many one-time countries haven't been visited in ages for TAR25 and need to revisit. I posted back in first page Hungary, Finland, Belgium and Peru are likely to visit.

South Africa hasn't visited since TAR7 and also needs to visit, as Caelestor stated on visiting Durban or Cape Town.

I'm not pretty sure about Peru and I think South America will not appear this season. It's likely to be Africa, since we have Southeast Asia (Phillippines - hope so!  :colors )

And about Europe, I'm pretty sure they're going east this season. AAAANNDD if they're planning to go to the Balkans, it WILL NOT be a good idea since Balkan is flooding right now  :gaah:
I don't think Peru will be visited because it's "too expensive" to reserve Machu Picchu and such locations. *mockingly* :res:

I feel like the Philippines (definitely Manila) will be visited after hearing Phil mention the country in the live CBS interview.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Boring Dude on May 20, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
I feel like the route will be something like this:

2 legs in the Philippines (everyone thinks this)(canceled from s24)
1 leg in Australia (+1 continent)(canceled from s24)
2 legs in India (major country)(hasn't been visited since s20)
2 legs in South Africa, Namibia, Angola, etc. (+1 continent)(underused recently)
1 leg in France (major country)(hasn't been visited since s21)
at least 1 more leg in Europe (Ireland, Germany, Czech Republic, Sweden, Finland, etc.)
up to 2 legs elsewhere

This is not necessarily the route I want, but I think it will be what we get.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: claude_24hrs on May 21, 2014, 05:41:07 AM
I feel like the route will be something like this:

2 legs in the Philippines (everyone thinks this)(canceled from s24)
1 leg in Australia (+1 continent)(canceled from s24)
2 legs in India (major country)(hasn't been visited since s20)
2 legs in South Africa, Namibia, Angola, etc. (+1 continent)(underused recently)
1 leg in France (major country)(hasn't been visited since s21)
at least 1 more leg in Europe (Ireland, Germany, Czech Republic, Sweden, Finland, etc.)
up to 2 legs elsewhere

This is not necessarily the route I want, but I think it will be what we get.

I quite that India won't be visited around for TAR 25, because of its approximately of recent All-Stars in Sri Lanka, which is close to India. Thailand is very unlikely due to recent political conflict.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Parovic on May 21, 2014, 06:55:59 AM
I feel like the route will be something like this:

2 legs in the Philippines (everyone thinks this)(canceled from s24)
1 leg in Australia (+1 continent)(canceled from s24)
2 legs in India (major country)(hasn't been visited since s20)
2 legs in South Africa, Namibia, Angola, etc. (+1 continent)(underused recently)
1 leg in France (major country)(hasn't been visited since s21)
at least 1 more leg in Europe (Ireland, Germany, Czech Republic, Sweden, Finland, etc.)
up to 2 legs elsewhere

This is not necessarily the route I want, but I think it will be what we get.

I quite that India won't be visited around for TAR 25, because of its approximately of recent All-Stars in Sri Lanka, which is close to India. Thailand is very unlikely due to recent political conflict.
Asia:
By ruling out some less possible location,india,thailand,vietnam,malaysia(sabah) are nearly impossible,but it will be possible for HK,China,Japan.
And i want TAR to bring back the cancelled leg of Laos in S19 and the long-awaited leg in Nepal

Africa:
As TAR may need to cut budget,travel to African countries may be costly,so it is nearly impossible

Europe:
I do want them to visit East-european countries like Slovakia,and i am pretty sure that Ukraine has absolutely no possibility

South America:
Brazil and Argentina will have a high possibility because of the 2014 world cup,but i want to see more new countries like Guyana

Oceania:
I want them to visit Fiji,Vanuatu but it has low possibility
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 21, 2014, 08:44:08 AM
I have a little spec that will drive us... and the rest of the viewers... crazy...
INDONESIA!!! :funny: :funny: :funny: :stare :stare :stare :stare :stare
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 21, 2014, 09:02:38 AM
I have a little spec that will drive us... and the rest of the viewers... crazy...
INDONESIA!!! :funny: :funny: :funny: :stare :stare :stare :stare :stare

If they make the Indonesian legs fun like TAR23, then there's nothing to be afraid of.  :funny:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 21, 2014, 10:23:10 AM
I have a little spec that will drive us... and the rest of the viewers... crazy...
INDONESIA!!! :funny: :funny: :funny: :stare :stare :stare :stare :stare

If they make the Indonesian legs fun like TAR23, then there's nothing to be afraid of.  :funny:

There's a good and a bad side with Indonesia.
Good: awesome spoilers! :conf:
Bad: Overused country in the recent seasons.

The last time there was Indo (S23), when some members in RFF saw the spoilers on Indo, they posted it right away on the BMS thread. :funny:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: drackodelmal on May 21, 2014, 11:25:59 AM
I really wish they come to mexico. Maybe just maybe i can find some spoilers for you guys. Monterrey has a lot of things to offer and with a show like this they can show it.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: MrDeerShank on May 21, 2014, 12:41:15 PM
I wouldn't expect Brazil due to how close it is to the World Cup - there would be way too many spoilers flying around! (not that that's a bad thing...)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Alenaveda on May 21, 2014, 02:25:10 PM
I wouldn't expect Brazil due to how close it is to the World Cup - there would be way too many spoilers flying around! (not that that's a bad thing...)

That's why we also spec with a delay on the filming of TARLA 6 this year.  :)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on May 21, 2014, 02:28:46 PM
I have a little spec that will drive us... and the rest of the viewers... crazy...
INDONESIA!!! :funny: :funny: :funny: :stare :stare :stare :stare :stare

 :funny: :funny: :funny:
i doubt it will happen. But if it is, i think they will go to Jakarta. Indonesia is the only country that never has a leg in it's capital (CMIIW). Yes, we always have good spoilers, but i hope they skip Indonesia next season. i am bored although i'm Indonesian
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Leafsfan. on May 21, 2014, 02:34:25 PM
I have a little spec that will drive us... and the rest of the viewers... crazy...
INDONESIA!!! :funny: :funny: :funny: :stare :stare :stare :stare :stare

 :funny: :funny: :funny:
i doubt it will happen. But if it is, i think they will go to Jakarta. Indonesia is the only country that never has a leg in it's capital (CMIIW). Yes, we always have good spoilers, but i hope they skip Indonesia next season. i am bored although i'm Indonesian

Croatia, Canada, Ireland, Turkey, Kazakhstan etc. Have not had their capitals visited either
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: HollywoodCory on May 21, 2014, 08:35:45 PM

I'd like to see them visit Canada again. They've been twice, to three cities and had a total of zero pit stops there.

I'd also like to see them visit Egypt, since it hasn't been since TAR 5. But I know that's its very unlikely due to it's instability. (Though I don't think they'd have too many problems as long as they avoided central Cairo.)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 22, 2014, 03:54:34 AM
Here's my route spec: (and pre-determined ELs, NELs, and Zero-hour)
1: Hawaii, USA --> Japan
2: Japan --> Manila, Philippines
3: Manila, Philippines --> Mountain Province, Philippines
4: Philippines --> Australia
5: Australia
6: Australia --> Nepal
7: Nepal --> somewhere in the Middle East
8: somewhere in the Middle East --> small European country --> small European country's neighbor
9: Europe
10: Europe --> Africa
11: Africa
12: Africa --> Mexico/Canada --> cross border to USA
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: claude_24hrs on May 22, 2014, 05:03:20 AM

I'd like to see them visit Canada again. They've been twice, to three cities and had a total of zero pit stops there.

I'd also like to see them visit Egypt, since it hasn't been since TAR 5. But I know that's its very unlikely due to it's instability. (Though I don't think they'd have too many problems as long as they avoided central Cairo.)

I don't think Canada won't be visited this season due to its being close to the U.S., and it is getting close to finish filming of TAR Canada 2. I repost about Thailand (see above post) and the safe cities in the country beside Bangkok are Chiang Mai (last visited was TAR2), Chiang Rai, Hat Yai, Krabi and Samui (island, not a city).
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: NMC on May 22, 2014, 09:15:55 AM
I have a little spec that will drive us... and the rest of the viewers... crazy...
INDONESIA!!! :funny: :funny: :funny: :stare :stare :stare :stare :stare

 :funny: :funny: :funny:
i doubt it will happen. But if it is, i think they will go to Jakarta. Indonesia is the only country that never has a leg in it's capital (CMIIW). Yes, we always have good spoilers, but i hope they skip Indonesia next season. i am bored although i'm Indonesian

Croatia, Canada, Ireland, Turkey, Kazakhstan etc. Have not had their capitals visited either

And Australia.  :'(
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: aryanisetiawan on May 22, 2014, 09:47:56 AM
The route has to be on fire, season 24 just missed the target. going linearly west without having been extremely south or north. and don't use countries which culturally contrast each other ( cause when i was watching leg 7-11, i felt like the teams were doing adventures in the same country) and even better. we had 4 double legs in one country which was a let down of an all-stars season.

i predicted that the route would start in Asia or oceania and Europe as the penultimate leg. as much as i love my own country, INDONESIA, i wouldn't want to have it in the next season, at the very least season 26. i want PHILIPPINES and only PHILIPPINES to be the representative of this season's South East Asia. i really wished that it could be the first two legs however my feelings say that there will be one country hosting the first leg probably oceanian country or even taiwan. so Philippines would be the second leg ( and the third leg if it's double)

i also want INDIA to be visited, specifically MUMBAI. it's culturally shocking and should be a part of a race that is amazing. the last time visited was season 12 and i found the environment really nasty, stressed out so many teams.I feel like Sri Lanka doesn't really give that crowded vibe as much as India. Sri lanka's leg was good though, the best leg in the previous season.

for africa i don't demand anything. as long as they go to africa it would be just fine. i would love to have a penultimate there but it also seems unlikely

for Europe, i'm getting bored seeing Europe actually i don't know why. i probably favoured Belgium or Denmark to be the countries for european legs. a leg in Crimnea would be interesting too  :lala :lala :lala

Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: ZBC Company on May 22, 2014, 11:14:22 AM
Guys complain so much about India now want it
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: georgiapeach on May 22, 2014, 11:33:18 AM
Again, no wishlist routes here please. If you have some REAL info about why you think a location might be visited, then we would love to hear your reasoning. Fantasy routes have their own thread.

Thanks!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: fossil-racer on May 22, 2014, 02:23:46 PM
I hope this will be a great season.

Survivor 24 wasn't really fun to watch however 25 26 27 28 were great.
Tar 24 wasn't really great either so hopefully 25 26 27 28 will be great like survivor.

They should have a twist like this:
The last team to check in on a kor leg will be eliminated.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: georgiapeach on May 22, 2014, 03:06:49 PM
Then it wouldn't be a KOR.  ^^
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Air on May 22, 2014, 05:53:55 PM
I hope this will be a great season.

Survivor 24 wasn't really fun to watch however 25 26 27 28 were great.
Tar 24 wasn't really great either so hopefully 25 26 27 28 will be great like survivor.

They should have a twist like this:
The last team to check in on a kor leg will be eliminated.

Caramoan was horrid yw
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: grace on May 22, 2014, 05:59:14 PM
I feel like the route will be something like this:

2 legs in the Philippines (everyone thinks this)(canceled from s24)
1 leg in Australia (+1 continent)(canceled from s24)
2 legs in India (major country)(hasn't been visited since s20)
2 legs in South Africa, Namibia, Angola, etc. (+1 continent)(underused recently)
1 leg in France (major country)(hasn't been visited since s21)
at least 1 more leg in Europe (Ireland, Germany, Czech Republic, Sweden, Finland, etc.)
up to 2 legs elsewhere

This is not necessarily the route I want, but I think it will be what we get.

I quite that India won't be visited around for TAR 25, because of its approximately of recent All-Stars in Sri Lanka, which is close to India. Thailand is very unlikely due to recent political conflict.
Asia:
By ruling out some less possible location,india,thailand,vietnam,malaysia(sabah) are nearly impossible,but it will be possible for HK,China,Japan.
And i want TAR to bring back the cancelled leg of Laos in S19 and the long-awaited leg in Nepal

Africa:
As TAR may need to cut budget,travel to African countries may be costly,so it is nearly impossible

Europe:
I do want them to visit East-european countries like Slovakia,and i am pretty sure that Ukraine has absolutely no possibility

South America:
Brazil and Argentina will have a high possibility because of the 2014 world cup,but i want to see more new countries like Guyana

Oceania:
I want them to visit Fiji,Vanuatu but it has low possibility


Africa is a huge continent; there are options there that would not be cost-prohibitive.  Angola, however, is probably not going to happen.  Friends of mine work there, and it's quite difficult and time-consuming to get visas.

I'd also like to see that Laos leg this time, and I agree that Thailand is out at the moment due to the political situation there
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Air on May 22, 2014, 09:16:57 PM
I hope this will be a great season.

Survivor 24 wasn't really fun to watch however 25 26 27 28 were great.
Tar 24 wasn't really great either so hopefully 25 26 27 28 will be great like survivor.

They should have a twist like this:
The last team to check in on a kor leg will be eliminated.
Caramoan was horrid yw

*Off topic but*
I disagree. Caramoan included a good game, blindsides. It wasn't the best but certainly not horrid.

-Blatant editing for Cochran to win
-Phillip
-Returnees being crap
-Newbs being crap

I mean like really
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Jimmer on May 22, 2014, 10:51:05 PM
I speculate 5 continents with Australia, Asia, Europe, North America, and Africa:

I think this race will reuse the Aus leg that was cancelled in TAR24 (and Philippines ones)
Africa hasn't been visited since S22, it's due.
Europe and Asia are locks.
North America for USA
I don't think we will get South America because it was just visited in S23 and they usually put 2-4 season gaps in between, plus Aus and Africa are overdue and with budget cuts, it would be unlikely.

Because I think Australia and Africa will be expensive (milage wise to get there and just in general), I feel like the rest of the season will have visits to Indonesia (because it's cheap) and visits to Western Europe becuase they can get to places cheaply via trains. Also because of budget cuts, I don't expect many countries and multiple legs in one country, probably around 8 countries this season.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Caelestor on May 22, 2014, 11:53:26 PM
I maintain my 4 continents route, but in light of recent events in Thailand, the 5th Asian leg will need to be moved somewhere else. Laos would be a nice destination. Unfortunately I don't see Oceania; Melbourne and Australia are much more interesting when the summer. I think it's a lock for TAR 26 though (assuming it's ordered of course).

I imagine the race will always visit 4 continents from now on due to budget cuts. Aside from the standard trio of N. America, Europe, and Asia, the fourth continent would be Africa in TAR 25, Australia in TAR 26, South America in TAR 27, Africa in TAR 28 (assuming the race isn't cancelled before then). That said, the 4 continent routes are usually the best, so it's not too worrisome.

Again, I would like to see the cast be permanently reduced to 10 teams. The 11th team is never memorable anyways. Also, feel free to cut out the drama that's been padding recent seasons, but please restore the full 45-second intro. TAR just isn't the same without it.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 23, 2014, 03:28:11 AM
Something is screaming to me of the possibility of a leg in south Canterbury, NZ with a ski field featured as a challenge. To my knowledge we haven't had a winter NZ leg before and only TAR Asia has been to one of NZ's ski fields.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 23, 2014, 08:02:17 AM
I would like to see the cast be permanently reduced to 10 teams. The 11th team is never memorable anyways.

The 11th team is barely memorable because of the 1st leg eliminations that happen in most seasons. Imagine Bill & Cathi, Maria & Tiffany, and the cowboys getting eliminated in 11th place. I think TAR should not mention any will be eliminated on any 1st legs. I mean, seriously, when they say will be eliminated on the 1st leg, it's sure to be an EL. If they say may be eliminated on the 1st leg, it's sure to be a NEL. :crazy:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: couchracer on May 23, 2014, 09:19:50 AM
Maybe a Memorial weekend start? Ready to race.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 23, 2014, 10:15:06 AM
I would like to see the cast be permanently reduced to 10 teams. The 11th team is never memorable anyways.

The 11th team is barely memorable because of the 1st leg eliminations that happen in most seasons. Imagine Bill & Cathi, Maria & Tiffany, and the cowboys getting eliminated in 11th place. I think TAR should not mention any will be eliminated on any 1st legs. I mean, seriously, when they say will be eliminated on the 1st leg, it's sure to be an EL. If they say may be eliminated on the 1st leg, it's sure to be a NEL. :crazy:

In all the past seasons, 11th placers getting saved by NELs usually evolve into an epic team. We definitely need more Leg 1 NELs but not all the time lol
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 23, 2014, 11:09:42 AM
I would like to see the cast be permanently reduced to 10 teams. The 11th team is never memorable anyways.

The 11th team is barely memorable because of the 1st leg eliminations that happen in most seasons. Imagine Bill & Cathi, Maria & Tiffany, and the cowboys getting eliminated in 11th place. I think TAR should not mention any will be eliminated on any 1st legs. I mean, seriously, when they say will be eliminated on the 1st leg, it's sure to be an EL. If they say may be eliminated on the 1st leg, it's sure to be a NEL. :crazy:

In all the past seasons, 11th placers getting saved by NELs usually evolve into an epic team. We definitely need more Leg 1 NELs but not all the time lol

Precisely. :tup:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: jlim201 on May 23, 2014, 11:41:10 AM
Guessing, probably inaccurate/wrong order. most of these countries, I dont want though.

Based on countries visited recently/long time ago, trends

Leg 1: LA- Buenos Aires, Argentina (Argentina gets visited approx every 5 seasons, last was 20)
Leg 2: Buenos Aires- Johannesburg, South Africa (Since TAR7)
Leg 3: Johannesburg, South Africa- Helsinki Finland (Since Tar 10)
Leg 4: Somewhere else in Finland
Leg 5: Finland- Athens, Greece (Since TAR 9)
Leg 6: Athens, Greece- Bucharest, Romania (Since TAR 14, east euro country)
Leg 7: Bucharest, Romania
Leg 8: Bucharest, Romania- Mumbai, India (India hasnt been visited in a while)
Leg 9: Mumbai, India- New Dehli, India
Leg 10: New Dehli, India- Manila, The Philippines (Since TAR 5)
Leg 11: Manila, The Philippines- Quebec City, Canada (Never, French Speaking)
Leg 12: Quebec City, Canada- Philadelphia, Pennysylvania, USA (American City, never had a finale)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 23, 2014, 01:24:11 PM
I'd love a first Leg NEL or a double Leg.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Alenaveda on May 23, 2014, 01:39:55 PM
Argentina is entering winter now; so unless they pretend to show more of the typical winter locations like Bariloche, I would expect a coming in the December filming (spring/summer in this part of South America).
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: couchracer on May 23, 2014, 03:13:37 PM
I would also like a first leg non elimination or keep on racing.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 23, 2014, 05:02:35 PM
I agree, a first leg NEL/KOR would be nice, because it gives us more time to get to know the 11th placers.

I'm also hoping that TAR 25 is much better than TAR 24, considering that this is a milestone season (and that last season was a disaster :funny:).

And now we wait for the inevitable welcome to RFF replies...
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Boring Dude on May 23, 2014, 05:11:46 PM
I agree, a first leg NEL/KOR would be nice, because it gives us more time to get to know the 11th placers.

I'm also hoping that TAR 25 is much better than TAR 24, considering that this is a milestone season (and that last season was a disaster :funny:).

And now we wait for the inevitable welcome to RFF replies...

Well, Would you rather be unwelcome?




























I don't think so.

 :bigwelcome

Welcome to RFF Philimination.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: freds on May 23, 2014, 05:15:40 PM
I have found this interesting article about TAR25: http://www.enstarz.com/articles/38312/20140522/amazing-race-season-25-spoilers-new-locations-being-scouted-as-fan-suggestion-to-visit-more-famous-landmarks-taken-into-consideration-video.htm
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: tHc on May 23, 2014, 09:30:29 PM
I hope they do come back here to New Zealand, hopefully i can see the race in Action again, last time i saw the racers at the sky tower in Auckland without realising it to way after the fact
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 23, 2014, 11:44:04 PM
I have found this interesting article about TAR25: http://www.enstarz.com/articles/38312/20140522/amazing-race-season-25-spoilers-new-locations-being-scouted-as-fan-suggestion-to-visit-more-famous-landmarks-taken-into-consideration-video.htm
Found something very important in the article for TAR25. :yess:
Quote
While nothing is yet set in stone, producer Bertram Van Munster did an interview with TV5 in the Philippines On May 14 and hinted he may be in the area scouting locations for the newest season.

"We've been back to the Philippines several times," he said. "I thought it was high time we come back."
Several? More like just TAR5. :lol: Nonetheless, very excited about this news! Let's just hope they won't go cheap mode by starting in L.A. for a possible seventh time in a row and circumnavigating leftward. I'm getting tired of the generalized Asia --> Europe --> North America route.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Jimmer on May 24, 2014, 12:13:36 AM
To be honest, I don't see any indication that would point against an LA start at this moment.

(And I honest would not care to have an LA start [to keep a budget] as long as they make it up with a fantastic route!)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 24, 2014, 08:01:34 AM
To be honest, I don't see any indication that would point against an LA start at this moment.

(And I honest would not care to have an LA start [to keep a budget] as long as they make it up with a fantastic route!)
I don't understand why they can't start somewhere else in California though like what they did for Unfinished Business (Palm Springs). Isn't the spendings as cheap? ??? Instead of L.A. County, they could just go up north into the Bay Area/Sacramento or go a bit down the state into San Diego. I'm really just perplexed here since Mr. van Munster favors Los Angeles County just a tad too much.

It's okay to start in Los Angeles once in a while, but not every season.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Caelestor on May 24, 2014, 11:10:00 AM
The issue is that starting anywhere other than LA would cost money and TAR is presumably tight on the budget.

Consider the plane ticket costs for the cast and productions to fly to, say, Boston. A few hundred dollars per person adds up to tens of thousands of dollars, then you have to take account into logistics (car rentals, equipment transfers, shooting and location permits, etc.). I'd rather see TAR spend the funds on actually having good tasks or solid overseas destinations. Besides, the starting city is usually not memorable unless it's TAR 9 where the race started and ended in the same city, completing the circle.

Personally, I think it's okay for TAR to start in LA if the race proceeds westward due to LAX's hub status. To Latin America I would enjoy a start in Miami, and to Europe I suggest starting on the East Coast, but again they're not entirely necessary.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 24, 2014, 03:47:09 PM
Especially if they're going westward and maybe to NZ or the Philippines first, for example, they'd spend just as much money flying out of say, San Francisco or even Honolulu as they would out of LAX.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: David on May 24, 2014, 05:27:35 PM
10 teams NO NO.

I say a 2-hour premiere with a longer first leg, as it was made in some older seasons, IIRC. A TBC/KOR is not bad either.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 25, 2014, 11:23:41 AM
I think 2 hours is good (or at least 90 mins), as long as there's some decent tasks in there. (as in not Searching -> Luck Task -> Linear RB -> Pitstop  :funny:)

For a 1.5-2 hour premiere, they *could* bring back leg 1 detours and have a detour, a roadblock, and at least 1 ARI. 2 roadblocks and at least 1 ARI could work too (knowing that they probably won't bring back the leg 1 detour).

But knowing their budget, they would probably keep the cheap leg 1 format.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: David on May 25, 2014, 02:13:14 PM
I think 2 hours is good (or at least 90 mins), as long as there's some decent tasks in there. (as in not Searching -> Luck Task -> Linear RB -> Pitstop  :funny:)

For a 1.5-2 hour premiere, they *could* bring back leg 1 detours and have a detour, a roadblock, and at least 1 ARI. 2 roadblocks and at least 1 ARI could work too (knowing that they probably won't bring back the leg 1 detour).

But knowing their budget, they would probably keep the cheap leg 1 format.

They can keep it low yet make a longer leg. Go to a harbour to fishing, probably with not a big cost. Go to the desert or national park and perform some tasks. IDK, there are many cheap tasks you can do, I feel that it is not that hard to make everything fit for a good TAR course, tbh.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 27, 2014, 08:31:52 AM
Team spec. Will I get it right> Will I not get it right? We'll see.

5 M/F, 4 M/M, 2 F/F

M/F teams:
1.) mother-son team
2.) father-daughter team
3.) siblings
4.) dating couple
5.) married couple

M/M teams:
6.) father-son team
7.) brothers
8.) best friends
9.) friends / colleagues

F/F teams:
10.) best friends
11.) friends / colleagues
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Bookworm on May 27, 2014, 02:30:30 PM
Team spec. Will I get it right> Will I not get it right? We'll see.

5 M/F, 4 M/M, 2 F/F

M/F teams:
1.) mother-son team
2.) father-daughter team
3.) siblings
4.) dating couple
5.) married couple

M/M teams:
6.) father-son team
7.) brothers
8.) best friends
9.) friends / colleagues

F/F teams:
10.) best friends
11.) friends / colleagues
There should be more F/F teams IMO. Personally, I'd like 5 M/F, 3 M/M, and 3 F/F or 4 M/F, 4 M/M, and 3 F/F.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: georgiapeach on May 27, 2014, 02:53:56 PM
Would y'all KINDLY please stop with the wishlists??  :pull
 
 
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: freds on May 27, 2014, 03:22:05 PM
I don't think that Brazil will have a leg this season. Brazil don't have leg since TAR18 but the soccer world cup will be in a few weeks in this country. So the hostel could be full, some people are not happy about the finance in Brazil. I think that TAR25 will avoid Brazil.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: georgiapeach on May 27, 2014, 04:20:06 PM
Thanks freds!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 28, 2014, 03:13:12 AM
Team spec. Will I get it right> Will I not get it right? We'll see.

5 M/F, 4 M/M, 2 F/F

M/F teams:
1.) mother-son team
2.) father-daughter team
3.) siblings
4.) dating couple
5.) married couple

M/M teams:
6.) father-son team
7.) brothers
8.) best friends
9.) friends / colleagues

F/F teams:
10.) best friends
11.) friends / colleagues
There should be more F/F teams IMO. Personally, I'd like 5 M/F, 3 M/M, and 3 F/F or 4 M/F, 4 M/M, and 3 F/F.

It's a spec, not a wishlist, but just like your opinion, I think they should cast more F/F's. I listed 2 F/F's here because I've noticed the number of F/F's from the last 2 seasons. I should not have mentioned the predicted relationships though, because I'll end up mostly wrong anyway, I don't know.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 28, 2014, 03:22:28 AM
I honestly want them to cast better M/Ms. The amount of M/Ms post UB have all been quantity over quality. IMO, the only good M/Ms casted post UB are the Chips, Mopper, Tim & Danny, the Afghanimals, and Fitness. The rest have all been bland and meh. I wouldn't mind a lot of M/Ms if they were well casted to be honest.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 28, 2014, 04:04:05 AM
I get the feeling we'll have a few more F/F teams this season, Hoping for about 3-4 so we can have some less M/M teams.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Air on May 28, 2014, 07:28:44 AM
I get the feeling we'll have a few more F/F teams this season, Hoping for about 3-4 so we can have some less M/M teams.

Let's have 5 and 2 MM teams y/y?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: MrDeerShank on May 28, 2014, 08:14:39 AM
I sense a lot of wishlists. . .
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 28, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
I sense a lot of wishlists. . .
And it all started when I made a spec on the number of F/F teams, oops. *sigh* :stare :res:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: walkingpneumonia on May 28, 2014, 09:49:53 AM
speculation noun  - the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence
wish list noun - a list of desired things or occurrences.

If you're speculating - it means you have some evidence (but not necessarily firm evidence) that what you are writing is theoretically possible.
So in order to keep the wish lists separate from the speculation - please provide some evidence that what you are theorizing is plausible.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 28, 2014, 09:58:36 AM
Evidence? Then I think I was predicting. I thought I was speculating. :groan: :stare
Thank you for the clarification though. :)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 28, 2014, 10:19:41 AM
Okay, I googled speculate, and I was predicting for most of the time. :groan: :groan: :groan:
Anyway, I'm speculating that the 2 legs from the 1st half of the race will come from the Philippines: 1 in Manila, 1 in another province; 1 EL, 1 NEL. The province I'm guessing is somewhere around the northern part. I'm thinking of Mountain Province where TARP made their Leg 3. (It was here right? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)
Then I'm staying with my 2 F/F spec. The evidence here is the pattern from the last 2 seasons. (and it's a bad spec and evidence) I want to have 1 or 2 more F/F's, but I think only 2 will make it.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Jobby on May 28, 2014, 04:45:19 PM
I'm speculating that this season will be ten times better than TAR 24. It's not that hard to be better than TAR 24 though.  :funny:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: foreverhoping on May 28, 2014, 06:19:02 PM
Starting in NYC any time now..................................
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Tar25fan on May 28, 2014, 06:20:08 PM
Beforw the race starts, I just want to share my thoughts on the route:
Based on weather conditions between june-july and travel warnings, I believe the route will be composed of at least 9 countries in 4 continents
I don't think they are going to South America neither Australia, so the continents and countries that they may visit in my opinion are:
Europe: I believe they will spend a lot of time in Europe. 4-5 legs. My guesses: Turkey, Finland, Czech Republic and Hungary
Africa: Morocco is a good destination that they haven't been in a while. 2 legs in Marrakesh and Fes should be good. Cape Town is another good location.
Asia: 3-4 legs. Philippines may be visited and take 2 legs. Manila and Cebu are my personal choices of destinations. Japan, Hong Kong/Macau, South Korea or Taiwan may be visited. If they go to Japan, I hope they go to Kyoto instead of Tokyo. I don't think they are going to India or Middle East and hopefully not to Indonesia
North America: I doubt it, but they could go to Costa Rica. They could make the starting line in San Jose, California and tell them to go to San Jose, Costa Rica like season 20
And the finish line in my opinion should be in Chicago. They can go either east or west. Hopefully they start the race in Africa or Europe
As of new countries, Dominican Republic, Laos, Latvia and Nepal could be good options.
What do you guys think??

Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: foreverhoping on May 28, 2014, 06:35:28 PM
......The starting point of the first episode of The Amazing Race was at Bethesda Fountain......

25th anniversary, back to where it all started...?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: grace on May 28, 2014, 07:25:54 PM
This isn't spec, but I couldn't figure out where to put this (GeorgiaPeach, apologies if I've done wrong!)

Starting point is Times Square!

http://www.cbs.com/shows/amazing_race/news/1002571/
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Post by: RealityFreakWill on May 28, 2014, 07:31:11 PM
Just saw this tweet:

The Amazing Race ‏@AmazingRace_CBS 6m

Be part of #AmazingRace history: Season 25 starts in #NYC #TimesSquare Sat 3AM ET! Send teams off w/ @PhilKeoghan: http://bit.ly/1msLlGP
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Post by: Tar25fan on May 28, 2014, 07:34:23 PM
Nice!!!!!! I live 30min away from ny but I don't think I'll go there 3am. I am certain there are other people here who can go and provide spoilers of all the teams and the first destination.
I believe they are definitely heading to Europe or even Africa
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Post by: dryedmangoez on May 28, 2014, 07:37:54 PM
Interesting.  And 3am too. I hope there's some kind of twist involved.
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Post by: Maanca on May 28, 2014, 08:13:04 PM
Interesting.  And 3am too. I hope there's some kind of twist involved.

I'm sure they'll make you sign the same release as anyone who associates with the racers, there's at least that catch.
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Post by: Vitoko on May 28, 2014, 08:26:34 PM
This is incredibly interesting...

Midnight Start Line? That's a first, right? At least the latest start of a season
I'm guessing there is gonna be some kind of task at the Starting Line, just to have people cheering for the teams. They are probably gonna have to sign a NDA so Why not? :)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 28, 2014, 08:42:58 PM
That starting line... sounds awesome!!! :hearts:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 28, 2014, 08:53:28 PM
I wish it's not a full leg in NYC :P
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Post by: asar on May 28, 2014, 09:40:22 PM
Cause it's like what 3am start and flights to other continents don't start flying till 6-7 am I would have to figure that there is some kind of task at the start that takes some time.
Considering that the race starts at NY also makes  me wonder if they go Canada in first leg or somewhere Northen europe since it's summer there.
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Post by: airn10 on May 28, 2014, 10:10:43 PM
Inviting fans to the SL! :conf: :yess: This sounds awesome! Definitely out of the box. A sign of good things to come?
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Post by: SamualDude on May 28, 2014, 10:11:54 PM
Times Square start line! Woo! Late evening start line as well and! IT'S NOT A LA START  :luvya: Which means Europe as the first destination most likely :P
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 28, 2014, 10:30:51 PM
The only thing I'm sad about is it likely means any Asian leg would be at the end of the Race.

That means less teams for Jig or Pig!  :gaah:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 28, 2014, 10:40:15 PM
The only thing I'm sad about is it likely means any Asian leg would be at the end of the Race.

That means less teams for Jig or Pig!  :gaah:

OR they could be saving the Phillipines for Season 26. Possibly, maybe.
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Post by: Declive on May 28, 2014, 10:51:42 PM
Reasons to start at 3 PM :

- Not much people will come and not less people , just the right number of people will show up to send the teams out.
- Special season , they really SHOULD do something like that.

And to add : it's impossible that we DON'T have a flight in this leg. People around the square would follow the teams anywhere they go , if they are TAR fanatics like us.
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Post by: claude_24hrs on May 28, 2014, 10:57:27 PM
The only thing I'm sad about is it likely means any Asian leg would be at the end of the Race.

That means less teams for Jig or Pig!  :gaah:

OR they could be saving the Phillipines for Season 26. Possibly, maybe.

Definitely not. Philippines is more likely for TAR25 and hope Manila will have a full leg.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 28, 2014, 10:58:30 PM
OR they could be saving the Phillipines for Season 26. Possibly, maybe.
If we even have a TAR26  :'(
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Post by: claude_24hrs on May 28, 2014, 11:09:33 PM
OR they could be saving the Phillipines for Season 26. Possibly, maybe.
If we even have a TAR26  :'(

Could not. Philippines hasn't visited since TAR5 and need a long 20-season gap in one-time visited country. The last time was Portugal (TAR3 to TAR23, which was 11 years later after its first visit).
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Chateau d If on May 29, 2014, 12:29:30 AM
What if the teams are starting from another location?  And it's just Phil and fans at Times Square?

The lineup of teams would be shown on a giant screen all ready to go.  ???
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Post by: theschnauzers on May 29, 2014, 12:32:48 AM
First I am amazed (pun fully intended) by the CBS.com announcement. It is a first and the time of day (3 am is also the first nighttime start ever) and I am glad they have returned to the original start city and only a few miles from the original start line in Central Park. (yes! yes! yes!)

I wish I could afford to fly into NYC just to be there, but I can't, But I am in love with the idea.

As I recall, and it's been years since we've had to worry about an east coast start, NYC is a good start/connection to fly to Europe or to Africa, or to South America, and it has been a long time since they've been to South Africa which as in the original season 13 plus years ago, there are direct flights. So there are a lot of possibilities, and there are no more than three airports to choose from.

But I guess I better plan on being up really late on Friday night-early Saturday morning because I doubt I'll be able to sleep knowing this is starting when it is.
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Post by: SamualDude on May 29, 2014, 12:52:33 AM
South Africa is long overdue for a return visit and there are direct flights to Johannesburg from New York City.
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Post by: theschnauzers on May 29, 2014, 12:59:18 AM
Cheatau, go back and if you can find any of them, try and find the CBS Morning News segments when Alex Boylan, Jeff Schroeder or Parvarti started their Around the World for Free seasons out of CBS News in NYC (which is close to Times Square.)

They could very well have the teams start there (Times Square), since I suspect teams would be using public transport to the airport, the same way they did during the first season start.

I've loved the idea of forcing teams to use public transit especially on the first leg.
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Post by: fossil-racer on May 29, 2014, 01:46:18 AM
I spec another all stars.
Maybe the double your money will come back.
I also think they will go to africa like season 1 first.
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Post by: albegrato on May 29, 2014, 02:01:44 AM
A scumbag move they could do is have the starting line in LA but have everyone watching at Times Square in New York.  :funny:
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Post by: gamerfan09 on May 29, 2014, 02:06:59 AM
I spec another all stars.
Maybe the double your money will come back.
I also think they will go to africa like season 1 first.

I doubt it tbh
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: mellodoo on May 29, 2014, 05:18:09 AM
Really surprised at the starting line  :ascared
So It's the first time ever starting at night? and first time ever Starting Line announced?

I think it could be a very special TAR
Celebrity edition maybe? or all winners edition? or maybe there will be some switchbacks in 25 season...

but hope this is not the last tar  :groan:
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Post by: Nyoman_SB1 on May 29, 2014, 06:00:44 AM
i don't know why they are so open and announced the starting line.
i just hope this is not the last season of The Amazing Race  :( :(
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 29, 2014, 06:05:43 AM
I hope a great crowd turns up - to prove that TAR is still widely loved and regarded as a wonderful show. I definitely want to see it continue far past this 25th season! Awesome start line, have a feeling it is a sign of good things to come! As has been previously stated, we could have a return to Africa with several flights there. Also Europe is another big possibility for first leg...All in all, very excited  :wohoo:
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Post by: Tar25fan on May 29, 2014, 07:07:36 AM
None of you guys live by ny???? I guess I will have to show up there  :)
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Post by: purefluff on May 29, 2014, 07:07:44 AM
They would most likely be going to Kennedy or Newark, both which have better mass transit connections and international flights.  Kennedy is the major international airport as well but Newark has international flights as well.  The subway station in Times Square has connections to a lot of different trains, although the services is pretty slow at 3 am on a Saturday.  I would imagine they would be taking cabs at this hour, though,  which would be plentiful at 3 am in Times Square. 
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: MrDeerShank on May 29, 2014, 07:11:17 AM
This just screams something like a celebrity edition or more returning racers - it just doesn't make sense that they would invite people to the Starting Line just to cheer on teams they have never met before
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 29, 2014, 07:24:58 AM
This just screams something like a celebrity edition or more returning racers - it just doesn't make sense that they would invite people to the Starting Line just to cheer on teams they have never met before

If it IS a returning racer season, then I hope we at least get the route and the returnees we deserve. :P

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Post by: stekay on May 29, 2014, 07:26:48 AM
This just screams something like a celebrity edition or more returning racers - it just doesn't make sense that they would invite people to the Starting Line just to cheer on teams they have never met before

If it IS a returning racer season, then I hope we at least get the route and the returnees we deserve. :P

Gamer you would've predicted this a LONG time ago if it happens :lol:
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Post by: gamerfan09 on May 29, 2014, 07:27:53 AM
This just screams something like a celebrity edition or more returning racers - it just doesn't make sense that they would invite people to the Starting Line just to cheer on teams they have never met before

If it IS a returning racer season, then I hope we at least get the route and the returnees we deserve. :P

Gamer you would've predicted this a LONG time ago if it happens :lol:

IKR lmao

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Post by: theamazingracer21 on May 29, 2014, 07:28:28 AM
I don't think it will be a celebrity or returning racer edition. I think they(production) know that TAR has a sizeable die hard fan base that will come out at 3 in the morning for a special TAR starting line. I am estimating that we will see about 2,000-3,000 people at the starting line.
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Post by: Plaidmoon on May 29, 2014, 07:57:49 AM
This just screams something like a celebrity edition or more returning racers - it just doesn't make sense that they would invite people to the Starting Line just to cheer on teams they have never met before

Well, even if it's teams of unknowns, we'll have tons of pictures floating around for identification purposes.

I think you may be right. There's something odd going on with this advance publicity for the start of the race. Maybe it is a celebrity edition. Maybe the move to Friday has the production team concerned and they are trying to generate some buzz and publicity for the show. Maybe it's both.

"Hey I was at Times Square and saw TAR 25! Taylor Swift, Brad Pitt and Kobe Bryant are racing! Bill Murray and Bopper are a team!"

Well, you get the idea.  :iok
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Post by: Lemontail on May 29, 2014, 08:03:44 AM
Maybe they lied, and starting line posted here may be used to decoy fans to prevent spoilers? And to make sure this isn't fake, one of spoiler hunters has to be somewhere, expecting the worst. And also others, in Times Square. If THIS IS REAL, why they announce starting line location and date?
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Post by: NMC on May 29, 2014, 08:12:39 AM
"Hey I was at Times Square and saw TAR 25! Taylor Swift, Brad Pitt and Kobe Bryant are racing! Bill Murray and Bopper are a team!"

Well, you get the idea.  :iok

 :funny: - As amazing as this would be, if it is a Celeb Edition, I think it would be more like "Hey, that guy that played a dead body in an episode of CSI is Racing!"  :lol:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Plaidmoon on May 29, 2014, 08:27:37 AM
The first race started at Bethesda Fountain in Central Park. They could be starting there while the public watches on the big screen at Times Square.

Then they could fly from Kennedy to Zambia, then Zambia to France, France to Tunisia, then to Italy and India...

Well, maybe that's unlikely.
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Post by: Platrium on May 29, 2014, 08:30:38 AM
"Hey I was at Times Square and saw TAR 25! Taylor Swift, Brad Pitt and Kobe Bryant are racing! Bill Murray and Bopper are a team!"

Well, you get the idea.  :iok

 :funny: - As amazing as this would be, if it is a Celeb Edition, I think it would be more like "Hey, that guy that played a dead body in an episode of CSI is Racing!"  :lol:

I could already imagine seeing my fave music duo.

There is a possibility of TAR25 being Celebrity Edition, but I think the suspicious and unusual things happening recently has something to do with TAR celebrating its 25th season.
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Post by: Platrium on May 29, 2014, 08:43:17 AM
Not too sure where to post this as its more a suggestion than a change, but I'll put it here anyway.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Night Time start line.  This has never been done before and could work out great.

Here's my thought.... Phil has all the teams at the Start Line, maybe there's a river or lake behind them with the reflection of the moon or a city scape?  :lol:
Anyway, Phil says Go, and the teams run for their bags, with fireworks going off behind them, maybe at the far side of the river. (Again, something different that would look cool)   :colors

To benefit a Night start line, there could be an ARI, NOT a Start Line Task, but more like the one in TAR Aus 2, then after that, they head off to the airport.

Now, I was also thinking, by having the teams fly out of the US at night, it would mean there'll be a chance they'll land at their destination at night, and this could cause a sort of domino affect, resulting in a higher number of night legs.  ???

Although, CBS seem to LOVE having teams wait until sunrise, or for a building to open, before they receive their next clue, so this whole idea could just be pointless.   :funny:

But I'd still Love to see this non-the-less.  :)

Quoted from Changes Viewers Would Like To See Thread.

I think someone from TAR is looking at that thread, because right now, they're doing at least the night time. Unless it's pure coincidence that is. ???
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Post by: NMC on May 29, 2014, 09:08:09 AM
Not too sure where to post this as its more a suggestion than a change, but I'll put it here anyway.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Night Time start line.  This has never been done before and could work out great.

Here's my thought.... Phil has all the teams at the Start Line, maybe there's a river or lake behind them with the reflection of the moon or a city scape?  :lol:
Anyway, Phil says Go, and the teams run for their bags, with fireworks going off behind them, maybe at the far side of the river. (Again, something different that would look cool)   :colors

To benefit a Night start line, there could be an ARI, NOT a Start Line Task, but more like the one in TAR Aus 2, then after that, they head off to the airport.

Now, I was also thinking, by having the teams fly out of the US at night, it would mean there'll be a chance they'll land at their destination at night, and this could cause a sort of domino affect, resulting in a higher number of night legs.  ???

Although, CBS seem to LOVE having teams wait until sunrise, or for a building to open, before they receive their next clue, so this whole idea could just be pointless.   :funny:

But I'd still Love to see this non-the-less.  :)

Quoted from Changes Viewers Would Like To See Thread.

I think someone from TAR is looking at that thread, because right now, they're doing at least the night time. Unless it's pure coincidence that is. ???

Holy Cow!!!! I totally forgot I even posted that!!!  :lol:
I would be sooooooooo happy if that was the post to convince them to do a Night Leg.  :bounce

And Phil has said quite a few times that producers constantly look at the fans comments to get ideas.  Maybe he was talking about more than just the Facebook and Twitter pages.   :wohoo:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Alenaveda on May 29, 2014, 09:14:02 AM
Well, I remember Bertram and Elise making references to the RFF in one interview from last year.  ;)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: NMC on May 29, 2014, 09:26:37 AM
Well, I remember Bertram and Elise making references to the RFF in one interview from last year.  ;)

Maybe that's what I'm remembering?  ???

Anywhoooo, I'm just gonna pretend that it was my comment that persuaded them to do a night start line... Just to make myself feel good for a while!  :lol:   :yess:
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Post by: georgiapeach on May 29, 2014, 09:28:21 AM
They DO read us. :kuss:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theschnauzers on May 29, 2014, 09:52:18 AM
I had hoped that they'd use Bethesda Fountain again for years, and thought the 10th anniversary season would have been the opportunity.

I have no doubt there's a twist of some kind there somewhere, but whether its a start in the middle of Times Square, or something else using the big screens around there showing a start, I haven't a clue. Just there being an announcement like this is unusual enough.
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Post by: Maanca on May 29, 2014, 10:43:34 AM
I noticed the last few days on Twitter that Phil was actually responding to people asking him when the next race starts. He'd never done that before, so I figured something was different about this season.

Surely he wouldn't be allowed to otherwise, of course.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: north09 on May 29, 2014, 11:03:37 AM
All you guys guessing another all stars or a celebrity edition, pretty sure they would have a. promoted that at the end of 24 and b. noticed that this all stars didn't do that great and wouldn't want to try that again. I also thought I read Phil said something along the lines of "new faces, new places." There doing this probably because they know they just got moved to Friday and need to generate buzz for their 25th season. And I guarantee you the Starting Line is in Times Square. They aren't going to tell everyone to come to TImes Square expecting to send off the teams only to see them on a big screen. What's that gonna do? Be happy they are actually doing something different for once.
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Post by: Alenaveda on May 29, 2014, 12:08:35 PM
Guys, with all the exciment of the announce we have lost something important:

May 31st. is Phil's birthday!   :conf: :conf: :conf:



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Post by: Jobby on May 29, 2014, 12:25:40 PM
THIS starting line twist is already better than the whole Allstars last season please. I got so excited reading it on FB I had to login to post!!!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 29, 2014, 01:10:04 PM
I live in NYC and the starting line is just a 30 minute subway ride away for me, but I'm not sure if my mom will let me go to Times Square at 3 AM XD
EDIT: I am going!!!  :conf:  :yess:
In the off-chance that my mom lets me go, I will take pictures!!! :P

It's very confusing though as the caption in the News Section of the CBS website says "The 25th season of The Amazing Race starts this Sunday, June 1 at 3am EST in Times Square in New York City"
But the news story itself, and the tweet says "The 25th season of The Amazing Race starts this Saturday, May 31st at 3am EST in Times Square in New York City"

PS: What if they had a cheap season 24... so that they can have a bigger budget for TAR 25?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: walkingpneumonia on May 29, 2014, 01:48:45 PM
Ya - whats going on - are they trying to mislead us?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 29, 2014, 01:50:42 PM
I think we should assume Saturday for now, since more sources say Saturday. But, watch the page to see if things change.
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Post by: Bookworm on May 29, 2014, 02:02:59 PM
This is great! It definitely seems like they are trying to breathe life into TAR and it's not going to get cancelled without a fight!
Happy Birthday to Phil and I hope that this is a great event! Plus, its not LA!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Plaidmoon on May 29, 2014, 02:18:37 PM
OK, I've tweeted Phil about the time and date confusion. He's not very busy these days, so I expect he'll answer me shortly.

Also, Luke is thinking about being there. He tweeted Phil to ask if it's OK for former racers to be there and help support the teams.
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Post by: purefluff on May 29, 2014, 02:21:42 PM
No matter how you slice it, the start will be memorable.  I am happy to see them mixing it up rather than throwing in the towel with the Friday move.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: stekay on May 29, 2014, 02:25:12 PM
Is the image Phil tweeted 7hrs ago of any significance?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Plaidmoon on May 29, 2014, 02:29:48 PM
Is the image Phil tweeted 7hrs ago of any significance?

I don't know how you would find that building, but most of his tweets lately have a purpose. May be teams will have to climb down those scary looking fire escapes.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: stekay on May 29, 2014, 02:40:29 PM
Is the image Phil tweeted 7hrs ago of any significance?

I don't know how you would find that building, but most of his tweets lately have a purpose. May be teams will have to climb down those scary looking fire escapes.

Yeah that would be interesting. I tried to search the image but found nothing worthwhile
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theschnauzers on May 29, 2014, 04:03:29 PM
3am Saturday is May 31st, and its overnight Friday night.

At least that's the way I understood it.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: grace on May 29, 2014, 04:42:11 PM
3am Saturday is May 31st, and its overnight Friday night.

At least that's the way I understood it.

That was my interpretation too.  3 a.m. May 31st = that Fri/Sat night.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 29, 2014, 05:51:35 PM
Yes, but that is not really why there's confusion. The confusion is that there's a discrepancy with the dates on CBS's website.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: fossil-racer on May 29, 2014, 07:43:07 PM
I have a feeling of another all stars
Could they be saving the best of the best all stars for 25.
If it is allstars i think they will bring back
Brook and claire
Pam and winnie
Mona and beth
Max and katie
Chippendales
Bopper and mark
Tim and marie
Gary and mallory
And 3 others possibly winners
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Lemontail on May 29, 2014, 08:04:04 PM
I have a feeling of another all stars
Could they be saving the best of the best all stars for 25.
If it is allstars i think they will bring back
Brook and claire
Pam and winnie
Mona and beth
Max and katie
Chippendales
Bopper and mark
Tim and marie
Gary and mallory
And 3 others possibly winners

Don't think so, and since this is eastward season (maybe), I speculate we will have a Switchback of watermelon task from TAR 17. Hope female  teams win! NEED MORE FEMALE TEAM WINNERS...
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 29, 2014, 08:12:08 PM
Apparently, Luke is going to be at the Starting Line to cheer the teams on. Considering Phil mentioned in a TV Guide interview that he was looking forward to new faces, I highly doubt it's another reurnee season.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: asar on May 29, 2014, 08:12:52 PM
I have a feeling of another all stars
Could they be saving the best of the best all stars for 25.
If it is allstars i think they will bring back
Brook and claire
Pam and winnie
Mona and beth
Max and katie
Chippendales
Bopper and mark
Tim and marie
Gary and mallory
And 3 others possibly winners
If they now were doing a all-stars it would need to be all-stars material teams such as:

Colin&Christie
Chip&Kim
Rob&Amber
Oswald&Danny
Brian&Greg
Dustin & Kandice    
Azaria & Hendekea
Toni & Dallas

That's just some of the teams but they know how to race and if we are gonna have another all-stars I rather have teams that really are working their ass off to get somewhere.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: wishicouldrun on May 29, 2014, 08:33:48 PM
I am so psyched- a starting line I can get to! Do we have exact details yet- where in Times Square (much bigger than you think), and is it Saturday 3 am or Sunday 3 am? I will be there! :yess:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 29, 2014, 08:49:17 PM
Most likely Saturday 3am, that's what it says on Twitter and the CBS article.

Only the caption on the TAR news section says Sunday, so I assume that was a mistake.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: TheRabbi on May 29, 2014, 09:23:42 PM
I highly doubt there would be another batch of all-stars so soon, especially with the incredibly cold reaction to the cast list the last time it was released.  I think (and hope) they're trying to just do something special for the fans for a 25th edition.

How about the route?  I'd say NYC almost guarantees a Europe start, but I'd love if they threw a curveball and went to somewhere like Toronto or Montreal (that should be friendlier on the budget as well to start with, since that's likely getting a shave this season).  But I'm guessing a very 17-ish route since that was the last season to start on the east coast instead of LA area.

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Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 29, 2014, 09:35:48 PM
I highly doubt there would be another batch of all-stars so soon, especially with the incredibly cold reaction to the cast list the last time it was released.  I think (and hope) they're trying to just do something special for the fans for a 25th edition.

How about the route?  I'd say NYC almost guarantees a Europe start, but I'd love if they threw a curveball and went to somewhere like Toronto or Montreal (that should be friendlier on the budget as well to start with, since that's likely getting a shave this season).  But I'm guessing a very 17-ish route since that was the last season to start on the east coast instead of LA area.

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:welcome2: to RFF, TheRabbi! :bigwelcome
Don't worry, everyone's here to join in on the excitement! No shame, and no disgrace. :waves:

This is the first time this week I have seen TAR blowing up with TAR25 news and I'm ecstatic about the race beginning at night in New York City, at least Mr. Munster listened to our tips and points of improvement :yess:, I think. Times Square seems like an odd choice though since I wouldn't expect TAR to close a section of a street or avenue since taxis and nightclub pedestrians do frequently travel across this neighborhood even passed midnight.

"Be a part of history"... if it's a celerity edition, I'll scream all because of the negative reception TAR received in the most recent season and considering we've technically had "celebrities" on past seasons like the country singers, YouTubers, numerous pageant queens, et cetera. I'd say TAR will be revealing a new non-elimination penalty, a new race-changer (like the Intersection), and/or possibly something other than the U-Turn and Yield to give teams the choice of slowing other teams down.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 29, 2014, 10:00:29 PM
it makes no sense for it to be celebs they would be mobbed at the airport just saying
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 29, 2014, 10:01:08 PM
This is the first time this week I have seen TAR blowing up with TAR25 news and I'm ecstatic about the race beginning at night in New York City, at least Mr. Munster listened to our tips and points of improvement :yess:, I think. Times Square seems like an odd choice though since I wouldn't expect TAR to close a section of a street or avenue since taxis and nightclub pedestrians do frequently travel across this neighborhood even passed midnight.

"Be a part of history"... if it's a celerity edition, I'll scream all because of the negative reception TAR received in the most recent season and considering we've technically had "celebrities" on past seasons like the country singers, YouTubers, numerous pageant queens, et cetera. I'd say TAR will be revealing a new non-elimination penalty, a new race-changer (like the Intersection), and/or possibly something other than the U-Turn and Yield to give teams the choice of slowing other teams down.

 :hoot: :hoot: :hoot:

Since they're checking on us, I'm thinking that they will happen. :hearts: :conf:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: purefluff on May 29, 2014, 10:04:38 PM
Times Square could mean a lot of things: on the street, on top of a building or on the closed off pedestrian area. They may use the billboards like they did in a prior race in Taiwan I think.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 29, 2014, 10:14:02 PM
I'm actually speculating that they will bring back the Yield but also make it a double yield but that they won't get rid of the U-Turn to add more strategy to when you want to use the Yield or U-Turn.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Vitoko on May 29, 2014, 10:15:16 PM
Times Square could mean a lot of things: on the street, on top of a building or on the closed off pedestrian area. They may use the billboards like they did in a prior race in Taiwan I think.

I think it would be really cool to see them look for their first destination on the billboards and tv screens of Time Square, but pretty sure that would give it away for everyone that is there as public...
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 29, 2014, 10:18:33 PM
Times Square could mean a lot of things: on the street, on top of a building or on the closed off pedestrian area. They may use the billboards like they did in a prior race in Taiwan I think.

I think it would be really cool to see them look for their first destination on the billboards and tv screens of Time Square, but pretty sure that would give it away for everyone that is there as public...
Didn't they do a similar task like this in TAR9 in Tokyo at the Shibuya Scramble (Japan's Times Square)?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 29, 2014, 10:31:11 PM
Times Square could mean a lot of things: on the street, on top of a building or on the closed off pedestrian area. They may use the billboards like they did in a prior race in Taiwan I think.

I think it would be really cool to see them look for their first destination on the billboards and tv screens of Time Square, but pretty sure that would give it away for everyone that is there as public...
Didn't they do a similar task like this in TAR9 in Tokyo at the Shibuya Scramble (Japan's Times Square)?

They did indeed.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 29, 2014, 10:31:45 PM
A celebrity edition would be the worst possible thing for them to do especially now getting sent to Fridays.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 29, 2014, 10:34:43 PM
A celebrity edition would be the worst possible thing for them to do especially now getting sent to Fridays.

BIG RED X
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 29, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
I REALLY get the feeling we'll get a South Africa first leg or two before they head to Europe. Who knows they could surprise us completely with the route, Could get Oceania at the end of it like TAR 2.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 29, 2014, 10:40:56 PM
Since it's the silver anniversary, why not have 12 teams? :lol:

(IDK. I feel like they should remember the old of the Race as well as the new. The Yield, 12 teams, 13 legs, MFE, etc.)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 29, 2014, 10:45:24 PM
For starting line transportation, I'm speculating teams will go back to the sprouts of TAR and have to use public transit like in the original season since New York City has the most type of transportation generally used by the growing NYC population. Remember how hard it was for teams in TAR1 to decide which locomotive would be the quickest to Kennedy Int'l Airport? Imagine teams running around in circles at night where it's barely likely to find an open Internet cafe, payphone with a phone book, and book flights (hopefully with no strangers' smartphone since that would be too easy).

Hopefully Mercedes-Benz renewed their sponsorship with TAR since Ford was only dragging their budget down.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 29, 2014, 10:46:58 PM
I'm speculating we'll get at least two new countries, a new Asian country and the odds of a Fiji or Samoa visit feel quite high.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Chateau d If on May 29, 2014, 10:56:10 PM
I highly doubt there would be another batch of all-stars so soon, especially with the incredibly cold reaction to the cast list the last time it was released.  I think (and hope) they're trying to just do something special for the fans for a 25th edition.

How about the route?  I'd say NYC almost guarantees a Europe start, but I'd love if they threw a curveball and went to somewhere like Toronto or Montreal (that should be friendlier on the budget as well to start with, since that's likely getting a shave this season).  But I'm guessing a very 17-ish route since that was the last season to start on the east coast instead of LA area.

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Hey Rabbi !,  Good to have you here.  Welcome!   :waves:

Just to roll back the clock a little, it's no secret, I am or was Paris in Spring at TWoP.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theschnauzers on May 29, 2014, 10:59:04 PM
LOOOOOONG time lurker here (5+ years), but with twop closing I really need somewhere else to post!  I hope I'm not frowned upon as posting here only under those circumstances, but I do enjoy the threads here!

Hi, there! I know I remember you and I'm sure you remember me. :)

Meanwhile, let me repeat May 31st is Saturday, and I take 3 am in Times Square at face value. I'm pretty sure TPTB have gotten a film permit out of City Hall, and they're have some NYPD helping to control things. I'm looking forward to monitoring things from here, so I hope those of you who can go send us some tweets and instagram and so forth so we can follow along.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theschnauzers on May 29, 2014, 11:00:59 PM
Just to roll back the clock a little, it's no secret, I am or was Paris in Spring at TWoP.
J never put that together. Go figure!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 29, 2014, 11:03:18 PM
Since it's the silver anniversary, why not have 12 teams? :lol:

(IDK. I feel like they should remember the old of the Race as well as the new. The Yield, 12 teams, 13 legs, MFE, etc.)

That'd be a great idea! :lol: I just doubt they'd do it.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 29, 2014, 11:04:59 PM
A celebrity edition would be the worst possible thing for them to do especially now getting sent to Fridays.

BIG RED X

Imagine how easy that would be to identify all the teams right away. :funny: I'm neutral with this Celebrity Edition though. What are the chances of having a Celebrity Edition? ???
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theschnauzers on May 29, 2014, 11:11:41 PM
We've had celebrities on TAR a lot of times, but the only way a "Celebrity Edition" could ever work on TAR is with the celebrity running with a family member, a significant other, or co-worker, just like the regular teams would, and they would have to run under the same rules and on the same routes and legs as a normal season.

That could work well. I would never be interested in a "pampered" edition.

If the celeb wants to donate their winnings to charity, why that would be up to them.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: albegrato on May 29, 2014, 11:20:56 PM
A D-list celebrity team isn't the worst thing in the world. I have no qualms about mactor teams as long as they auditioned themselves and not picked up and asked by production to join and not overact like they are in a scripted show once they're Racing. Like what Derek Ramsay (TARPh host) said, he would much rather be a contestant than the host, so celebrities do have interest in joining the Race.

But an A-list celebrity team, much less a whole season of them, is just too much for anyone to handle.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: georgiapeach on May 30, 2014, 12:03:15 AM
OMG. They better not have screwed the date up!!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 30, 2014, 12:24:43 AM
If it is tomorrow night I won't be here to help with the spoiling :lol: I'm heading out for dinner. Hoping it's Sunday night xD
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: selkie on May 30, 2014, 02:24:24 AM
I'm in Paris right now until Monday. Y'all are going to have me watching for Racers when we're out and about.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Neobie on May 30, 2014, 04:33:58 AM
To everyone who's going, bring your passport! What if the twist isn't about returning racers or celebrities, but crazy fans who would turn up at 3am and are willing to drop everything and go around the world with nothing but the shirts on their backs?

Not sure if geographical representation, vaccinations or visas would work out, but just imagine... :colors

Or like "get stamped to prove you were at Time Square, rush home to get packed, first eleven pairs that arrive at JFK with passports race around the world..."
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: paradoxinee on May 30, 2014, 05:30:28 AM
To everyone who's going, bring your passport! What if the twist isn't about returning racers or celebrities, but crazy fans who would turn up at 3am and are willing to drop everything and go around the world with nothing but the shirts on their backs?

Not sure if geographical representation, vaccinations or visas would work out, but just imagine... :colors

Or like "get stamped to prove you were at Time Square, rush home to get packed, first eleven pairs that arrive at JFK with passports race around the world..."

That's great but yeah, Visa might be a problem except all the destinations are visa-free for American people.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: David on May 30, 2014, 05:31:21 AM
That would be great, but unfair. Does WRP want a full cast of NYC people who all live in the city with an acocmodated life? What about the farmers couple? IDK, it would just be awk
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Tar25fan on May 30, 2014, 06:37:17 AM
My ultimate guesses on first destination:
Europe (75%): Amsterdam, Brussels, Madrid, Paris, Dublin, Reykjavik, Stockholm, Prague, Milan
Africa (13%): Casablanca, Johannesburg
North America (12%): Punta Cana, Santo Domingo, San Jose, Panama City, Montego Bay, Toronto
I for some reason think Brussels should be the first destination
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: ovalorange on May 30, 2014, 07:38:29 AM
Looks like Phil's cleared up the date. Tonight is the night!

Phil Keoghan ‏@PhilKeoghan 18m
I will be saying “GO!” @ the #AmazingRace #TAR25 starting line tonight? 5/31 3AM! #timessquare @I_LOVE_NY love to see you!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 30, 2014, 08:11:54 AM
My ultimate guesses on first destination:
Europe (75%): Amsterdam, Brussels, Madrid, Paris, Dublin, Reykjavik, Stockholm, Prague, Milan
Africa (13%): Casablanca, Johannesburg
North America (12%): Punta Cana, Santo Domingo, San Jose, Panama City, Montego Bay, Toronto
I for some reason think Brussels should be the first destination

 :hello2: and :bigwelcome to RFF, Tar25fan!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: purefluff on May 30, 2014, 08:27:21 AM
Phil sent another tweet about it....will it start somewhere else and be broadcast on one of the jumbotrons?

https://twitter.com/PhilKeoghan/status/472351185383337986

"I will be saying “GO!” @ the #AmazingRace #TAR25 starting line tonight? 5/31 3AM! #timessquare @I_LOVE_NY love to see you!"
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: georgiapeach on May 30, 2014, 10:07:36 AM
To everyone who's going, bring your passport! What if the twist isn't about returning racers or celebrities, but crazy fans who would turn up at 3am and are willing to drop everything and go around the world with nothing but the shirts on their backs?

Not sure if geographical representation, vaccinations or visas would work out, but just imagine... :colors

Or like "get stamped to prove you were at Time Square, rush home to get packed, first eleven pairs that arrive at JFK with passports race around the world..."
25 has been casted as far as we know. But I thought the same thing...suppose there is ONE TEAM to be picked like that! AWESOME!
 
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: georgiapeach on May 30, 2014, 10:10:47 AM


LOOOOOONG time lurker here (5+ years), but with twop closing I really need somewhere else to post!  I hope I'm not frowned upon as posting here only under those circumstances, but I do enjoy the threads here!

SO glad you are here!! And we are welcoming any and all TWOpers looking for a home. That was one of my first and favorite spots for TAR and TAR friendships until I was swept into spoiler land, so it will be always special to me!

 :bigwelcome
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: TheWorldIsWaiting24 on May 30, 2014, 01:18:43 PM
Does anyone think maybe Argentina? Or really anywhere in South America? They haven't been to Argentina since TAR20 and haven't spent much time in SA in a while.  ???
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: georgiapeach on May 30, 2014, 01:35:56 PM
I want everyone to think about something.

Why is CBS making a fuss about this?

It is an anniversary.

Anniversary of what??  ???

Oh....

And what happened on leg 1 then?
 
OHHHH.  :wohoo:
 
Just an idea....



Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Bookworm on May 30, 2014, 01:38:20 PM
I have an idea of what I think the SLT will be. What if the teams' first task is to look for someone from their first destination country? It would represent NYC's diversity AND would make sense that they want a lot of extra people there, to confuse the racers.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: docol on May 30, 2014, 01:50:07 PM
i've been dying for watching a season start from the very starting line.....now the ppl from NY got the chance to do it...! im soooooooooo jealous  :( :( :( :( :(
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Vitoko on May 30, 2014, 01:55:36 PM
I think that we should pay attention to peach..

Who's the face of The Amazing Race... Phil Keoghan... His birthday is on May 31st... I think the entire first leg will be a celebration not only to the 25th season of TAR... but what if this public event becomes Phil's birthday party, maybe this is a hint to Lincoln, New Zealand, Phil's birthplace as the first destination...

Can you imagine a full Time Square singing Happy Birthday to the host that has travelled the world for 25 seasons... that could be pretty cool... maybe his father will reappeared as a greeter. ..

According to wikipedia his wife has a bed and breakfast on Rolleston, New Zealand. .. possible pitstop? His wide as the greeter?

I would love to see the first leg be all about Phil's life and the celebration of his birthday.  :)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Alenaveda on May 30, 2014, 02:05:52 PM
Does anyone think maybe Argentina? Or really anywhere in South America? They haven't been to Argentina since TAR20 and haven't spent much time in SA in a while.  ???

Argentina is entering winter now; so unless they pretend to show more of the typical winter locations like Bariloche, I would expect a coming in the December filming (spring/summer in this part of South America).
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theschnauzers on May 30, 2014, 02:18:29 PM
I want everyone to think about something.

Why is CBS making a fuss about this?

It is an anniversary.

Anniversary of what??  ???

Oh....

And what happened on leg 1 then?
 
OHHHH.  :wohoo:
 
Just an idea....


GMTA. :)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: walkingpneumonia on May 30, 2014, 02:30:46 PM
03:00 is a strange time to start. Lets think about why they are starting so early.

1. you want thousands of drunken NY’ers exiting their chi-chi bars after a night of drinking participating in the start line event. This probably isn’t the reason.
2. They have to catch a very early flight. Much more likely.

Now - which flight?
Assume the flight is before 10:00 - otherwise you could start the race later in the day.
TPTB also like to be able to have flight choices for the 1st leg. i.e. the teams that finish the start line challenge 1st get the 1st flight etc… and they like to have an early flight to get Phil there first.

There are 3 international airports within reasonable transit/taxi/driving: LGA (Laguardia), JFK (John F Kennedy), EWR (Newark)
LGA - international “bunched” flights excluding Canada from 06:00 to 10:00:
nothing
JFK - international “bunched” flights excluding Canada from 06:00 to 10:00:
London    BA 180    British Airways    07:15 18:55
London    VS 26    Virgin Atlantic    07:40 19:40
London    BA 178    British Airways    08:15 20:05
EWR - international flights excluding Canada from 06:00 to 10:00:
Hmmm, this is interesting
London    VS 18 Virgin Atlantic    07:15 18:54
London    UA 922 United Airlines    09:00 21:20

From my analysis - I’m going to bet heavily on London being either the first leg or a connection to another flight.
Send Phil off on BA180 at 07:15 and let the teams travel on VS76 or BA178 or even UA922 from EWR  :)
It could be fun if the teams aren't told which airport to go to...
Any NY'er (who aren't drunk) willing to hang out at JFK or EWR Saturday morning?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: GMR 602 on May 30, 2014, 02:34:20 PM
Simply out, this is a throwback to season 1.

If they went anywhere but South Africa, I would be completely surprised.

They have NEVER set off for Africa as a leg 1 destination, except for season 1.

I would be in contact with Victoria falls and Songwe village too just in case!

While not a complete rerun of season one, it will only be fitting if they went to a lot of the places with a new country thrown in here and there :)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: couchracer on May 30, 2014, 02:43:37 PM
This is so amazingly awesome. I love the thought of former racers there to cheer on 25. I wish I could go. Love Neobie's thought of picking a racer or 2 from the fans. Love nmccarroll91's nighttime start, which is from the city that never sleeps. 3AM is a matchbox 20 song too. Just 11 hours to go.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: redwings8831 on May 30, 2014, 03:08:31 PM
Maybe self-driving to Montreal/Quebec/Atlantic Canada? Could get to Montreal or Quebec City by noon/early afternoon with a 3 AM start.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Neobie on May 30, 2014, 03:35:59 PM
Season 1's flights to Johannesburg via Zurich and Milan don't work for a 3am start, but these flights do:

SA 204 from New York to Johannesburg, 1115-0800
Multiple flights from New York via London to Johannesburg, earliest arrival 0905

Agree with WP that London looks likely too!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: walkingpneumonia on May 30, 2014, 03:44:37 PM
Quote
Sarah Cunningham ‏@sarahjeancu  1h 
 Phil from Amazing Race walked by me in Central Park and my mom starts fangirling like a 10 year old seeing One Direction

Wonder if they were near the Bethesda Plaza?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: linke3 on May 30, 2014, 04:18:12 PM
Quote
Sarah Cunningham ‏@sarahjeancu  1h 
 Phil from Amazing Race walked by me in Central Park and my mom starts fangirling like a 10 year old seeing One Direction

Wonder if they were near the Bethesda Plaza?


It looks like they were!! (http://instagram.com/p/oofW2RThIo/). I'm going to try to make to out there tonight! (I'll be watching a movie at around 9ish with my boyfriend in Times Square).
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 30, 2014, 04:43:25 PM
Judging on that camera with Phil (and Bertram) I think they are talking about where it all began 24 seasons ago...Bethesda Fountain. Might appear at the beginning of Episode 1. I just get the feeling, as Peach does, they might be heading to the motherland...AFRICA for the first leg! Excited for this evening!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theschnauzers on May 30, 2014, 04:52:37 PM
3 AM isn't such a strange time especially if teams have to catch an early flight out of NYC. I think that Instantgram is a big hint, and it looks like my hope of what the 10th year anniversary season would have been may be what season 25 will be. I think London is a connection and not a destination, as they've been to London a couple of times the last few seasons. Africa, though, hasn't been visited in a while, and the area in Africa that's safest for Americans right ow is South Africa.

Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: couchracer on May 30, 2014, 05:07:20 PM
To mimic, yet not repeat, the beginning of amazing race, they could fly to Johannesburg or Durban South Africa. Then drive to the Oribi Gorge and the bungee swing from there. And other stuff too.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Alenaveda on May 30, 2014, 05:07:56 PM
Quote
Sarah Cunningham ‏@sarahjeancu  1h 
 Phil from Amazing Race walked by me in Central Park and my mom starts fangirling like a 10 year old seeing One Direction

Wonder if they were near the Bethesda Plaza?




It looks like they were!! (http://instagram.com/p/oofW2RThIo/). I'm going to try to make to out there tonight! (I'll be watching a movie at around 9ish with my boyfriend in Times Square).

:hiya, linke3!  :bigwelcome to the R.F.F.!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Alenaveda on May 30, 2014, 05:09:00 PM
Here's the Instagram pic:

(http://i57.[banned image hosting site].com/2ewfxqc.jpg)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: wishicouldrun on May 30, 2014, 05:44:29 PM
 ??? Do we have any idea where in Times Square the starting line will be? I do not want to wander around by myself- rather have a destination and try to park nearby! Bryant Park is a big open space where teams can meet and do a task; the center of Times Square where the crowd gathers for New Years; the theaters; the less than welcoming side streets.  I assume the starting line has to be a relatively big open space which limits choices within Times Square :iok. Also, for the non-New Yorkers, Times Square is at 42nd Street, Central Park starts at 59th Street and Bethesda Plaza is further north and west into the park. However, for tonight, there is a chance of a "passing shower" so I hope this does not interfere with any tasks!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: WorldTraveler on May 30, 2014, 05:50:39 PM
The announcement on the NEWS section of the CBS Amazing Race page is gone now. Not sure what that means. Perhaps they'll put updated instructions soon.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: NMC on May 30, 2014, 05:55:16 PM
Every season I get excited for the Start of the race, but this time, I just CAN NOT WAIT!!!!!  :wohoo:
After watching the spoilers the last 2 seasons, I was adamant I wouldn't spoil this season, but with soooooooooo much hype behind it, and the chances of it being AMAZING, I really won't have any choice but to follow what's happening.   :groan:   :funny:

I'd absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE it, if they had two groups at the Start Line, 1 consisting of all the crazy fans and the other of all the greatest teams!
How awesome would it be too have the Cowboys, Globes, Mopper, Margie & Luke, Goths, Afghanimals, Charla & Mirna, Gallory, Beauty Queens, Romber, Brooke & Clare, all the past winners, and all the other fantastic teams I'm missing, standing there to wave off the new bunch!!!
AHHHH I'M SO EXCITED!!!!!!!   :conf:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Caelestor on May 30, 2014, 06:00:27 PM
Times Square will probably be the broadcast location to hype up the 25th edition, with Bethesda Fountain as the starting line of the race. From there, the race will head eastward, but pretty much any country in Europe and even Africa/North America is in play.

Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Alenaveda on May 30, 2014, 06:07:09 PM
 :hello2:,  :wel2 to the R.F.F., WorldTraveler!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: WorldTraveler on May 30, 2014, 06:45:15 PM
:hello2:,  :wel2 to the R.F.F., WorldTraveler!

Thank you! I am thinking of heading up to NYC to photograph this tonight, but the only drawback is, I have to be in Philadelphia at 8 AM, and have no idea of what the timing will be for everything.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Tar25fan on May 30, 2014, 06:58:10 PM
I am not going anymore but I am happy there's people here who will be there. I'll wait for the pictures of the starting line and hopefully of all of the teams at the airport. I also hope it will be known what is the first destination. I hope they pick a country that has not been the first one yet to be visit, like Belgium, but if they go to South Africa (which I don't think it's going to happen) it would be cool too. Really hope they dont go to UK, Germany and Switzerland
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 30, 2014, 07:09:45 PM
We haven't had a africa start since TAR1 and what better way to have a throwback to TAR1 than a New York start and a South Africa first destination.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Jobby on May 30, 2014, 07:19:22 PM
I wouldn't even mind if they do a a season solely on Switchbacks, the most epic tasks in the history of TAR, and get the teams who made certain tasks epic be the clue giver!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Reilly Queens on May 30, 2014, 07:28:58 PM
If the start line is in Times Square and with a picture of Phil at the fountain doing a stand up.. maybe the first clue is to "Head to the start line of the first starting line" and they ask the many fans watching them where it is..
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 30, 2014, 07:49:53 PM
I think EVERY task being a switchback is a little bit too much... but 1 switchback per leg (or 1 switchback per country visited),  then a final memory task based on something in each switchback would be cool.

If it was a roadblock, something similar to this would be the question:
ROADBLOCK: Who can retrace the steps of Amazing Race history?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: mjriches2005 on May 30, 2014, 07:53:54 PM
So excited and it's not a Los Angeles start!  :yess: :nana :nana :nana :jam:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 30, 2014, 08:07:55 PM
What if, they go to South Africa and this Race completely bypasses Europe!  :nana
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 30, 2014, 08:08:39 PM
What if, they go to South Africa and this Race completely bypasses Europe! b :nana

The last time that the race bypassed Europe was.... Season 2. I wouldn't say no to a season without Asia but that's for another thread.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Maanca on May 30, 2014, 08:19:41 PM
We haven't had a africa start since TAR1 and what better way to have a throwback to TAR1 than a New York start and a South Africa first destination.

Wasn't the very first country Zambia?

Edit: Never mind, they passed through South Africa, first. You're right.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Plaidmoon on May 30, 2014, 08:20:10 PM
For those who want to read the tea leaves that Phil has displayed lately, he has also tweeted pictures in the last few days of himself next to what appears to be a lifeguard tower at a beach and of an old run down looking tenement building.

Also, if Luke is having to ask yesterday if it's OK for him to be at Times Square, I doubt they have been issuing many invitations to the racers. Season 1 racers wouldn't surprise me though.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theschnauzers on May 30, 2014, 08:47:11 PM
All TPTB would have to do where Racers are concerned is to reach out to a certain season 1 Racer; they have their own community and if they're wanted, the word would have gone out privately, and we would not hear about it.



Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 30, 2014, 08:51:20 PM
I'm thinking that it's an African 1st leg, if someone posted this on the Changes Viewers Would Like To See Thread.
If not, then I think it's a European 1st leg.
But I think there's still a small chance the Philippines gets visited in the first few legs. (Multiple Connections?)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 30, 2014, 08:56:57 PM
I'd imagine that we will see Phil and the teams just before 3am for the pre-race talk and introduction while the race begins at 3am on the dot.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: albegrato on May 30, 2014, 09:06:13 PM
If its an East Coast start, it's most likely going to be eastward, with a European or South American first leg with an outside chance of an African first leg. Only twice has the pattern been different. S7 changing directions mid-Race (eastward then westward after India), and S13 where the Race went westward having visited South America first.

Hopefully, it's going to be an African leg. :luvya:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 30, 2014, 09:10:57 PM
If its an East Coast start, it's most likely going to be eastward, with a European or South American first leg with an outside chance of an African first leg. Only twice has the pattern been different. S7 changing directions mid-Race (eastward then westward after India), and S13 where the Race went westward having visited South America first.

Hopefully, it's going to be an African leg. :luvya:

We are LONG overdue for a African start and a South Africa return! Most of the foreign editions have been to South Africa in the past 2-3 years.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 30, 2014, 09:12:18 PM
I'm thinking that it's an African 1st leg, if someone posted this on the Changes Viewers Would Like To See Thread.
If not, then I think it's a European 1st leg.
But I think there's still a small chance the Philippines gets visited in the first few legs. (Multiple Connections?)
I so want them to be in the Philippines with at least 6 teams left.  I wasn't really a fan of TAR7's double back route, but I'll take it if they go South Africa-India-Nepal-Philippines then head north to Korea or something and go back westward through Europe.

That's so weird, but I'll take it.  :nana
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theschnauzers on May 30, 2014, 09:14:44 PM
I'd imagine that we will see Phil and the teams just before 3am for the pre-race talk and introduction while the race begins at 3am on the dot.

Not necessarily. From what I've seen about flight information for the morning, there's a few hours of leeway, and it is always possible the Racers might not be at Times Square for the actual start. No one knows for sure what exactly is being planned, which is making this fascinating.
Quote from: Karpov 617
If its an East Coast start, it's most likely going to be eastward, with a European or South American first leg with an outside chance of an African first leg. Only twice has the pattern been different. S7 changing directions mid-Race (eastward then westward after India), and S13 where the Race went westward having visited South America first.

Hopefully, it's going to be an African leg.
The thing is that except for Atlanta which has direct flights to South Africa, the only other logical city that could be used is NYC, as it was in the first season. And London is a connection point for South Africa from NYC as we saw in season 2 with the Groaning Grannies.

Quote from: dryedmangoez
Quote from: Platrium on Today at 08:51:20 PM

    I'm thinking that it's an African 1st leg, if someone posted this on the Changes Viewers Would Like To See Thread.
    If not, then I think it's a European 1st leg.
    But I think there's still a small chance the Philippines gets visited in the first few legs. (Multiple Connections?)

I so want them to be in the Philippines with at least 6 teams left.  I wasn't really a fan of TAR7's double back route, but I'll take it if they go South Africa-India-Nepal-Philippines then head north to Korea or something and go back westward through Europe.

That's so weird, but I'll take it.

My guess is that the Philippines will be towards the end of the Race if they're headed there this season.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: claude_24hrs on May 30, 2014, 09:22:20 PM
I so want them to be in the Philippines with at least 6 teams left.  I wasn't really a fan of TAR7's double back route, but I'll take it if they go South Africa-India-Nepal-Philippines then head north to Korea or something and go back westward through Europe.

That's so weird, but I'll take it.  :nana

North Korea is too dangerous to visit due to travel restrictions, South Korea is safe to visit for the Penultimate Leg like Japan (seasons 9, 20 and 23).
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 30, 2014, 09:27:41 PM
I so want them to be in the Philippines with at least 6 teams left.  I wasn't really a fan of TAR7's double back route, but I'll take it if they go South Africa-India-Nepal-Philippines then head north to Korea or something and go back westward through Europe.

That's so weird, but I'll take it.  :nana

North Korea is too dangerous to visit due to travel restrictions, South Korea is safe to visit for the Penultimate Leg like Japan (seasons 9, 20 and 23).

I think he meant head north to Korea as in going north to South Korea.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Hooky on May 30, 2014, 09:31:03 PM
Wow, this sounds like it will be a tremendous starting line! I wish I lived in New York City; I would totally go! :hearts:

I really hope to see what a lot of others have mentioned; a throwback to Season 1 in a visit to South Africa. It would be an excellent way to start this anniversary season!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Maanca on May 30, 2014, 09:35:44 PM
I so want them to be in the Philippines with at least 6 teams left.  I wasn't really a fan of TAR7's double back route, but I'll take it if they go South Africa-India-Nepal-Philippines then head north to Korea or something and go back westward through Europe.

That's so weird, but I'll take it.  :nana

North Korea is too dangerous to visit due to travel restrictions, South Korea is safe to visit for the Penultimate Leg like Japan (seasons 9, 20 and 23).

I think he meant head north to Korea as in going north to South Korea.

They've come close, though. Twice they've gone to whatever that river's called that's just a few miles from the border, and I felt nervous for the racers just watching it. I seem to remember one team actually took their taxi right to the border.

One Asian country I can't help but wonder how they've never gotten to yet is Nepal. Phil even said in his Q&A thing at the end of this season that he'd like to get the race there someday. Sure the connections to get there probably aren't great, but they could find a way.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: couchracer on May 30, 2014, 09:37:47 PM
They could have a bunch of first season racers (along with others) standing just inside the perimeter and to get the first clue they have to grab an original racer. Or alternatively answer Bethesda Fountain as the first ever starting line.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: supah on May 30, 2014, 09:38:08 PM
There is no reason for the race to start on the east coast unless they are either going to Europe or connecting through Europe, as LA is such a convenience for production. With the Start Line potentially being MAJOR spoilers, it wouldn't make sense to fly to a first destination that is heavily populated, as we'd end up having the whole first leg spoiled by lots of people watching. I am almost certain that we are heading to Africa (a remote location somewhere), especially considering the early flights out of NYC to London as a connection. South Africa is a great contender, but I'm thinking they might take the race back to Victoria Falls for the first destination, where the magic started!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 30, 2014, 09:41:30 PM
They've come close, though. Twice they've gone to whatever that river's called that's just a few miles from the border, and I felt nervous for the racers just watching it. I seem to remember one team actually took their taxi right to the border.

One Asian country I can't help but wonder how they've never gotten to yet is Nepal. Phil even said in his Q&A thing at the end of this season that he'd like to get the race there someday. Sure the connections to get there probably aren't great, but they could find a way.
It would be awesome to have Nepal.

It's interesting because there's direct flights to Kathmandu from Delhi or Mumbai (both possible Leg locations on their own I think).  And there's direct flights from Hong Kong, Seoul, Singapore or KL.  Apparently a ticket from Manila, Philippines to Kathmandu via Hong Kong can be as cheap as $500. 
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 30, 2014, 09:49:49 PM
I'd imagine we will find out where we are headed in just over 4 hours!  :wohoo:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theamazingracer21 on May 30, 2014, 10:03:03 PM
I am getting live feeds of Times Square so I can watch the race begin.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 30, 2014, 10:05:14 PM
I am getting live feeds of Times Square so I can watch the race begin.

If it is ok to post the live feed links would you mind doing so? Cheers!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: couchracer on May 30, 2014, 10:13:20 PM
http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/timessquare/?cam=tsstreet
Not all the live cams are functioning,
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: north09 on May 30, 2014, 10:14:27 PM
So wait shouldn't we have someone go to Bathesda Fountain?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: ZBC Company on May 30, 2014, 10:22:35 PM
So wait shouldn't we have someone go to Bathesda Fountain?

Try get flight.nyc
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 30, 2014, 10:24:33 PM
So wait shouldn't we have someone go to Bathesda Fountain?

I'd imagine that someone will be heading there in case they do actually go there.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Reilly Queens on May 30, 2014, 10:56:58 PM
They cleared off TKTS..

(http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/fss/56379001c509bc65b3aee5ee4fc58db7/tar25-2.png)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 30, 2014, 11:00:05 PM
Will I be missing out on anything (i.e. interviews, etc) if I arrive at 2 or 2:30 AM??
I'll be watching the live cams until about 1 AM then I'm heading out to Times Square (probably nothing exciting yet though).

Also, since they cleared out TKTS, I assume that the starting line will be near there.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 30, 2014, 11:02:57 PM
As aforementioned, they have cleared TKTS and it's been barriered for the public to stand outside of it. So I feel it might just start there!

Edit - now camera crews seem to be dumping gear off there!  :wohoo:

And quick question - is the French flag always flying on the left-hand flag?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theschnauzers on May 30, 2014, 11:06:40 PM
And there seems to be some crews with carts arriving now as well. So it looks like the 47th and Broadway cam may be the best option, since three of the other cams are apparently down.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: ZBC Company on May 30, 2014, 11:08:46 PM
As aforementioned, they have cleared TKTS and it's been barriered for the public to stand outside of it. So I feel it might just start there!



Yes that nyc city flag

Edit - now camera crews seem to be dumping gear off there!  :wohoo:

And quick question - is the French flag always flying on the left-hand flag?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theschnauzers on May 30, 2014, 11:09:01 PM
Kiwi Jay it is more that the US flag is always on the other pole, per US custom. As far as the French flag, I assume that's for something else going on in or near Times Square. (There's a smaller flag also on that flagpole.)

Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: ZBC Company on May 30, 2014, 11:10:44 PM
Hello .history major nere that nyc city flag if look up it looklike france flag
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Reilly Queens on May 30, 2014, 11:11:06 PM
The flag's always there.
(http://i.imgur.com/ytEZXgN.jpg)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 30, 2014, 11:11:47 PM
Just wondered if it would bare any specific meaning for the race...but thanks for clarification theschnauzers and Kandace!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 30, 2014, 11:15:56 PM
As aforementioned, they have cleared TKTS and it's been barriered for the public to stand outside of it. So I feel it might just start there!

Edit - now camera crews seem to be dumping gear off there!  :wohoo:

And quick question - is the French flag always flying on the left-hand flag?

The flag's always there.
Show content
(http://i.imgur.com/ytEZXgN.jpg)

To answer Kiwi Jay's question.
Yes, the flag is always there as Kandace said. But, this is not the French flag, but rather the New York City flag.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 30, 2014, 11:17:17 PM
As aforementioned, they have cleared TKTS and it's been barriered for the public to stand outside of it. So I feel it might just start there!

Edit - now camera crews seem to be dumping gear off there!  :wohoo:

And quick question - is the French flag always flying on the left-hand flag?

The flag's always there.
Show content
(http://i.imgur.com/ytEZXgN.jpg)

To answer Kiwi Jay's question.
Yes, the flag is always there as Kandace said. But, this is not the French flag, but rather the New York City flag.

Yes saw that just before, bare's a striking similarity! Thanks Philimination :)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 30, 2014, 11:19:33 PM
Wow, this sounds like it will be a tremendous starting line! I wish I lived in New York City; I would totally go! :hearts:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theamazingracer21 on May 30, 2014, 11:20:22 PM
Wow, this sounds like it will be a tremendous starting line! I wish I lived in New York City; I would totally go! :hearts:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 30, 2014, 11:21:10 PM
Who here will be following the teams to the airport?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: albegrato on May 30, 2014, 11:23:18 PM
Is everyone viewing the 47th & Broadway camera, with Duffy Square, the flags, and the giant McDonald's golden arches?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 30, 2014, 11:25:25 PM
so excited for the start tonight...i wish i still lived in ny because i would be there for sure! anyways, maybe they are waiting until midnight pacific time so maybe former racers all across the US can wish phil a happy birthday before sending the teams on their way?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 30, 2014, 11:27:48 PM
im viewing the 47th/broad cam
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 30, 2014, 11:29:01 PM
https://twitter.com/TBBR_BBVIP

Have a look - someone is on the ground at TKTS Times Square!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Alenaveda on May 30, 2014, 11:30:04 PM
Is everyone viewing the 47th & Broadway camera, with Duffy Square, the flags, and the giant McDonald's golden arches?

Yes.

(http://i59.[banned image hosting site].com/22reu.jpg)

Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: tar fan on May 30, 2014, 11:31:08 PM
Is this starting in 2 and a half hours, or in another day?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 30, 2014, 11:32:37 PM
 
Is this starting in 2 and a half hours, or in another day?

2 and a half hours :)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theamazingracer21 on May 30, 2014, 11:32:54 PM
Is this starting in 2 and a half hours, or in another day?
It starts in 2.5 hours

And I got the Golden Arches camera.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Alenaveda on May 30, 2014, 11:33:03 PM
Two and a half hours.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: north09 on May 30, 2014, 11:33:40 PM
Yo Eddie, message me the link
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 30, 2014, 11:34:02 PM
I wonder how many other previous racers will be at the start line. We know that Luke will be there.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theschnauzers on May 30, 2014, 11:34:29 PM
Is this starting in 2 and a half hours, or in another day?
That's when Phil and CBS asked fans to be in Times Square; exactly when Phil releases the teams depends on what TPTB want to film with the fans present before they're sent on their way.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: SamualDude on May 30, 2014, 11:35:18 PM
I wonder how many other previous racers will be at the start line. We know that Luke will be there.

The Beauty Queens as well - Gamerfan

Beauty Queen goddesses return to TAR! But not in the way I'd hope xD
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 30, 2014, 11:39:08 PM
apparently the Start line is 46th & Bway by George Cohan statue.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: paradoxinee on May 30, 2014, 11:40:01 PM
Do you think someone in the photo from the twitter look like Country Girls?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 30, 2014, 11:40:13 PM
north, sent you the link.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: paradoxinee on May 30, 2014, 11:42:30 PM
Do you think someone in the photo from the twitter look like Country Girls?

Ok, They are not Country Girls. Jennifer is much taller.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: tar fan on May 30, 2014, 11:44:17 PM
I need a good camera link....they keep showing me the neon signs!!!!!!! AAAAAgggggghhhhhhh

 :tantrum
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 30, 2014, 11:45:19 PM
I need a good camera link....they keep showing me the neon signs!!!!!!! AAAAAgggggghhhhhhh

 :tantrum

Use this link

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/timessquare/?cam=tsrobo1 (http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/timessquare/?cam=tsrobo1)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 30, 2014, 11:48:37 PM
A lot of the production crew on the lower left part of the live cam (near the American flag pole). They seem to be discussing something.
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Post by: tar fan on May 30, 2014, 11:49:13 PM
Thanks  :luvya:
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Post by: eddiethejet on May 30, 2014, 11:51:00 PM
A lot of the production crew on the lower left part of the live cam (near the American flag pole). They seem to be discussing something.

yea the area is filling up...we are still 2 hours away but i cant stay off that cam..ughh it's gonna be a long night (for good reason)!
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Post by: theamazingracer21 on May 30, 2014, 11:51:04 PM
A lot of the production crew on the lower left part of the live cam. They seem to be discussing something.
The question is are they production getting a talk on how to film it or teams getting a pre-race talk? (probably the former but you never know)
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Post by: Philimination on May 30, 2014, 11:52:13 PM
I'm leaving to go to Times Square real soon... just a few more minutes of staring at the live cams, then I'm out!
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Post by: eddiethejet on May 30, 2014, 11:53:20 PM
A lot of the production crew on the lower left part of the live cam. They seem to be discussing something.
The question is are they production getting a talk on how to film it or teams getting a pre-race talk? (probably the former but you never know)

My guess is that teams will not arrive until real late in the process.
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Post by: Philimination on May 30, 2014, 11:56:19 PM
A lot of the production crew on the lower left part of the live cam. They seem to be discussing something.
The question is are they production getting a talk on how to film it or teams getting a pre-race talk? (probably the former but you never know)

My guess is that teams will not arrive until real late in the process.

The teams will probably get the pre-race talk (and possibly even the interviews) off site, then go to Times Square a few minutes before 3 AM and then a few minutes after 3, the usual explanation of the race, a twist (if there is one), and the famous "Good Luck, Travel Safe, GO!".
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Post by: SamualDude on May 30, 2014, 11:59:04 PM
Surprised there haven't been pictures of former racers at Times Square yet.
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Post by: theamazingracer21 on May 30, 2014, 11:59:29 PM
Just watching the camera and by the looks of it they have some cleaners cleaning the stairs. 
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Post by: eddiethejet on May 30, 2014, 11:59:36 PM
A lot of the production crew on the lower left part of the live cam. They seem to be discussing something.
The question is are they production getting a talk on how to film it or teams getting a pre-race talk? (probably the former but you never know)

My guess is that teams will not arrive until real late in the process.

The teams will probably get the pre-race talk (and possibly even the interviews) off site, then go to Times Square a few minutes before 3 AM and then a few minutes after 3, the usual explanation of the race, a twist (if there is one), and the famous "Good Luck, Travel Safe, GO!".

Exactly.  Im sure they are at some hilton or marriott somewhere getting the talk.
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 12:00:27 AM
Just watching the camera and by the looks of it they have some cleaners cleaning the stairs.

I see those cleaners too. Tons of prep by the production too.

Alright, it's about time for me to head to Times Square, see you later everyone! :)
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Post by: Alenaveda on May 31, 2014, 12:02:10 AM
Just watching the camera and by the looks of it they have some cleaners cleaning the stairs.

I see those cleaners too. Tons of prep by the production too.

Alright, it's about time for me to head to Times Square, see you later everyone! :)

Go, enjoy and get pics! :tup:
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Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 12:03:32 AM
maybe a start line task is to run around times square and look above on the video boards for a clue on the 1st destination city.
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Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 12:04:18 AM
Just watching the camera and by the looks of it they have some cleaners cleaning the stairs.

I see those cleaners too. Tons of prep by the production too.

Alright, it's about time for me to head to Times Square, see you later everyone! :)

enjoy!
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Post by: Vitoko on May 31, 2014, 12:09:08 AM
Just watching the camera and by the looks of it they have some cleaners cleaning the stairs.

I see those cleaners too. Tons of prep by the production too.

Alright, it's about time for me to head to Times Square, see you later everyone! :)

Have Fun!  :waves:
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Post by: theamazingracer21 on May 31, 2014, 12:12:03 AM
maybe a start line task is to run around times square and look above on the video boards for a clue on the 1st destination city.
I would love that.
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Post by: tar fan on May 31, 2014, 12:16:48 AM
SO, SO, SO, SO, SO JEALOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 :'( :'( :'(    :conf: :conf: :conf:
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Post by: theamazingracer21 on May 31, 2014, 12:17:34 AM
Here's an idea for first leg transportation. Traveling by coach (especially if they are going to Canada)  Port Authority Bus Terminal is just down 42nd on 8th 
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 12:17:54 AM
Some last minute unfortunate news... after over 15 minutes of failed negotiations with my sleepy mom... I can't go  :'(   :'(   :'(

I guess i'll have to spend the night watching the live cams... so much for No Opp Wasted...

EDIT: I'll try again soon...
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Post by: north09 on May 31, 2014, 12:20:11 AM
maybe a start line task is to run around times square and look above on the video boards for a clue on the 1st destination city.

That's what I was thinking. Something like the task in Taipei in TAR19
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 12:25:48 AM
Guys, update from my previous post... I can't go anymore.. My mom won't let me go...  :'(  :'(  :'(

But I will still be with you guys all night with live cam updates  :hrt:

And whoever's going, please bring pics!
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 31, 2014, 12:27:51 AM
http://instagram.com/p/opjrL7R1yB/

Phil near TKTS  :waves:
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Post by: SamualDude on May 31, 2014, 12:30:17 AM
http://instagram.com/p/opjrL7R1yB/

Phil near TKTS  :waves:

I'd imagine that will be part of the opening monologue about New York City.
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 12:31:24 AM
Back to live cam updates after some disappointing news:

Production seems to be setting up some stuff, notably the lighting.
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Post by: gamerfan09 on May 31, 2014, 12:33:45 AM
I'm going to be recording the whole stream starting 3AM! I'll upload it here once the teams are gone. :tup:
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Post by: Cheesefeet on May 31, 2014, 12:36:33 AM
You might want to start a little before 3
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Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 12:36:56 AM
That big yellow thing on the ground better not be the site of a start line elimination.
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 12:37:44 AM
Probably not. For a start line elimination, there would be a pit stop mat and not a generic yellow mat.
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Post by: albegrato on May 31, 2014, 12:38:11 AM
And the bags are in place :D

https://twitter.com/joyceeng61/status/472611683526266880/photo/1
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Post by: gamerfan09 on May 31, 2014, 12:38:19 AM
You might want to start a little before 3

Mkay, 2:45
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 12:39:35 AM
And the bags are in place :D

https://twitter.com/joyceeng61/status/472611683526266880/photo/1

Yes! All the pieces are finally falling into place...
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Post by: smiley on May 31, 2014, 12:40:33 AM
Probably not. For a start line elimination, there would be a pit stop mat and not a generic yellow mat.

there's another one down on the other side as well.
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Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 12:41:02 AM
I thought those caution signs were race flags. lol
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Post by: SamualDude on May 31, 2014, 12:41:30 AM
I think that the yellow square is always there so don't worry about it being to do with a starting line elimination.
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Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 12:43:09 AM
I think that the yellow square is always there so don't worry about it being to do with a starting line elimination.

just me being paranoid...just noticed another yellow square across the street
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 12:43:30 AM
I think that the yellow square is always there so don't worry about it being to do with a starting line elimination.

I can confirm this. In the Earth Cam, second picture (was taken on May 23rd.) Same yellow square.
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 31, 2014, 12:43:34 AM
YAY!

https://twitter.com/postcardsfromny/status/472613191441461248/photo/1
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Post by: schwarzmoor on May 31, 2014, 12:43:59 AM
Could this be a team?
https://twitter.com/CynGetRealLOL/status/472599254889164800/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/CynGetRealLOL/status/472599254889164800/photo/1)
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Post by: SamualDude on May 31, 2014, 12:44:23 AM
I think that the yellow square is always there so don't worry about it being to do with a starting line elimination.

just me being paranoid...just noticed another yellow square across the street

We are supposed to looking for things/people so you are doing your job :P
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Post by: theschnauzers on May 31, 2014, 12:45:01 AM
And the bags are in place :D

https://twitter.com/joyceeng61/status/472611683526266880/photo/1

Yes! All the pieces are finally falling into place...
That yellow thing is either cardboard or a mat/rug; it's been there all evening even before the crew started arriving.
Just like the original season at the fountain; teams ran up the steps got their bags and clues, and headed out to use subways or taxis.
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 12:45:30 AM
Could this be a team?
https://twitter.com/CynGetRealLOL/status/472599254889164800/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/CynGetRealLOL/status/472599254889164800/photo/1)

I don't think teams racing would be waiting on the sidelines randomly like that. But you never know in a season like this!
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Post by: Alenaveda on May 31, 2014, 12:46:52 AM
Guys, should I remind you that we have a topic for the pics from the Starting Line?  ;)
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Post by: schwarzmoor on May 31, 2014, 12:47:14 AM
Could this be a team?
https://twitter.com/CynGetRealLOL/status/472599254889164800/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/CynGetRealLOL/status/472599254889164800/photo/1)

I don't think teams racing would be waiting on the sidelines randomly like that.

Or they follow Neobie's suggestion!
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Post by: gamerfan09 on May 31, 2014, 12:47:28 AM
Could this be a team?
https://twitter.com/CynGetRealLOL/status/472599254889164800/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/CynGetRealLOL/status/472599254889164800/photo/1)

I don't think teams racing would be waiting on the sidelines randomly like that. But you never know in a season like this!

I highly doubt they would have the teams just standing there. :P
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Post by: Boring Dude on May 31, 2014, 12:49:38 AM
How many teams are there? I counted nine pairs of backpacks in the picture (a tenth pair may have been covered up by the people on the right, and more could be off-camera).
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Post by: SamualDude on May 31, 2014, 12:50:04 AM
Unfortunately I must go but I'll be back later! Happy spoiling guys and have fun!
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 31, 2014, 12:50:29 AM
Bert & Elise

http://instagram.com/p/opma0VyrnS/
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 12:54:05 AM
Is it me or does it seem as there's only 10 pairs of bags? Hard to tell because parts of each pic are cut off.

You see, if I was in Times Square right now, I would know for sure!
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Post by: Radelaide on May 31, 2014, 12:59:04 AM
https://twitter.com/joyceeng61/status/472616811520073728

the clues <3
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Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 12:59:22 AM
Is it me or does it seem as there's only 10 pairs of bags? Hard to tell because parts of each pic are cut off.

You see, if I was in Times Square right now, I would know for sure!

Im seeing 10 as well.
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Post by: theschnauzers on May 31, 2014, 01:01:29 AM
Bert and Elise are obviously loving this and I'll bet they're wondering why they hadn't done this before,

You realize it is the first time ever that people have been invited to watch a task of TAR being filmed inside the US.
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Post by: Leafsfan. on May 31, 2014, 01:01:46 AM
A) surprise team returning
b) earlier there was a mention of picking two ppl from crowd.
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 01:02:10 AM
Is it me or does it seem as there's only 10 pairs of bags? Hard to tell because parts of each pic are cut off.

You see, if I was in Times Square right now, I would know for sure!

Im seeing 10 as well.

New pic with the bags, now I see 11 pairs :)
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Post by: paradoxinee on May 31, 2014, 01:04:43 AM
https://twitter.com/RonWaxman/status/472619180840071170/photo/1

Phils is there
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 01:05:38 AM
https://twitter.com/joyceeng61/status/472616811520073728

the clues <3

Welcome to RFF, Radelaide!  :bigwelcome  :conf:  :conf:
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Post by: paradoxinee on May 31, 2014, 01:13:03 AM
https://twitter.com/RonWaxman/status/472621397143846913/photo/1

Luke  :yess:
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Post by: Glamazon Racer on May 31, 2014, 01:14:49 AM
So many cars driving by at 2am, gosh is New York always like this.
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 01:15:25 AM
New York isn't called the city that never sleeps for nothing!

There's cars driving 24/7, and our subway runs 24/7 too!

EDIT: I just heard the crowd cheer in the livecams.
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Post by: dryedmangoez on May 31, 2014, 01:18:24 AM
How fun! I wish I could be there.
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Post by: Boring Dude on May 31, 2014, 01:19:07 AM
Definitely 11 teams (by the bags).
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 01:19:18 AM
I SEE PHIL in the livecam!!!

I was supposed to take a screenshot of that, but then my printscreen malfunctioned :(
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Post by: Vitoko on May 31, 2014, 01:19:30 AM
Phil is doing his intro speach... and the crowd is cheering  :conf: :conf:

I was hoping to see more people there but I guess is really late for everyone to just show up
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Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 01:22:54 AM
So many cars driving by at 2am, gosh is New York always like this.

It actually looks kind of slow for a friday night in times square.
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Post by: paradoxinee on May 31, 2014, 01:24:23 AM
Some said about a twist this season.
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Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 01:24:58 AM
I SEE PHIL in the livecam!!!

I was supposed to take a screenshot of that, but then my printscreen malfunctioned :(

The cheering you hear is phil practicing his "GO"!
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Post by: albegrato on May 31, 2014, 01:25:35 AM
Ron Waxman ‏@RonWaxman  2m

Something new for #AmazingRace #TAR25. A "Save", you can hand over before the end of 9th leg if you are facing elimination and stay in race.
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Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 01:26:06 AM
Idk how much credibility this has, but...

Something new for #AmazingRace #TAR25. A "Save", you can hand over before the end of 9th leg if you are facing elimination and stay in race.

Credit to Ron Waxman
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 01:26:36 AM
Ron Waxman ‏@RonWaxman  2m

Something new for #AmazingRace #TAR25. A "Save", you can hand over before the end of 9th leg if you are facing elimination and stay in race.

Isn't this just a salvage pass but to save yourself rather than to save another team?

Also, I think this is unlikely.
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Post by: gamerfan09 on May 31, 2014, 01:26:41 AM
Sounds like the SALVAGE PASS tbh
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Post by: Glamazon Racer on May 31, 2014, 01:27:12 AM
They're singing Happy Birthday? awk
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 31, 2014, 01:27:22 AM
https://twitter.com/RonWaxman/status/472625055105822720

Teams headed to a tropical paradise...
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Post by: couchracer on May 31, 2014, 01:27:35 AM
Loving the way the crowd cheers as the camera sweeps over them. Ohh just to be there!
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 01:28:32 AM
https://twitter.com/RonWaxman/status/472625055105822720

Teams headed to a tropical paradise...

Leg 1 somewhere in the Caribbean please! We are way overdue for that!
I would also take a TAR 1 throwback and go to Africa for leg 1.
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Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 01:28:43 AM
Crowd singing Happy Birthday to Phil.
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Post by: Reilly Queens on May 31, 2014, 01:28:58 AM
Tropical paradise could be aruba.
(http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/fss/63d6271e66ae4157cbe8926c77b1469e/tar25-5.png)
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Post by: Neobie on May 31, 2014, 01:29:52 AM
Joining you guys from 12 hours away! They're getting into position!
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Post by: dryedmangoez on May 31, 2014, 01:29:55 AM
https://twitter.com/RonWaxman/status/472625055105822720

Teams headed to a tropical paradise...

Hello Philippines!  :yess:
lol, but yeah maybe the Caribbean first.

A Save definitely sounds like a Salvage Pass used as an Express Pass on yourself.
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Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 01:31:03 AM

 
Ian D
‏@dixonij
So my dad is in NYC for the taping of #TAR25 start and I've looked at flights leaving from NY area around 5-8am. He said he heard Phil say..

...sandy beaches. There's two flights to Puerto Rico leaving at 5:45am and 7am out of JFK. Possible first #TAR25 destination?
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Post by: DavidJunior on May 31, 2014, 01:32:03 AM
Nvm
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Post by: Vitoko on May 31, 2014, 01:32:38 AM
The Save sounds like a powerful twist if you ask me...
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 01:32:59 AM
What about the French flag thats flying there?
Do you think it holds significance?
Maybe French Carribean, or even New Caledonia, or French Guiana?

That's not a french flag, that's the New York City flag, as I said earlier.
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Post by: paradoxinee on May 31, 2014, 01:33:14 AM
Salvage Pass has to be used right away. This Save can be used until leg 9.
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Post by: albegrato on May 31, 2014, 01:33:51 AM
The Save sounds like a powerful twist if you ask me...

Yeah. Too powerful...
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Post by: Neobie on May 31, 2014, 01:34:27 AM
Ugh sounds like the "get out of jail free" idol from Survivor. I don't like it.
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Post by: Tarfan37 on May 31, 2014, 01:34:42 AM
Save sounds like it would cause production alot of extra room to be accused of being biased as well... but as for country could costa rica be getting a revisit?
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Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 01:34:52 AM
Ehh, I don't think this Save twist is real... sounds overpowered, but we'll see.

What I think is real on the other hand is the possible Caribbean destination for leg 1.
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Post by: dryedmangoez on May 31, 2014, 01:34:58 AM
Maybe Save replaces the Express Pass?
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Post by: Reilly Queens on May 31, 2014, 01:35:35 AM
Or maybe its a wish/suggestion from a fan :lol:
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Post by: dryedmangoez on May 31, 2014, 01:36:56 AM
It's not a bad idea to consider though. Teams would have to earn it though, like a super hard Fast Forward in the first Leg.  They have the choice to go for it, but would it be worth it?
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Post by: north09 on May 31, 2014, 01:38:03 AM
Maybe it sounds like a dumb twist, but how many times have teams been eliminated due to bad flights or cabs by no fault of their own?
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Post by: paradoxinee on May 31, 2014, 01:38:12 AM
The team with Save immediately becomes a big target for all the other teams.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 01:38:53 AM
Also, wouldn't Phil reveal the twists (if any) when the teams are there?

There's no teams there, so I don't think Phil would reveal any twists before the teams arrive.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Boring Dude on May 31, 2014, 01:39:04 AM
Also, the save could possibly need to be handed in before the teams are told their placement. (spec.)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 31, 2014, 01:39:21 AM
How about a penalty come with the Save though.  It works like your own personal non-elimination Leg.  You still get a Speed Bump, etc.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: albegrato on May 31, 2014, 01:40:04 AM
It's not a bad idea to consider though. Teams would have to earn it though, like a super hard Fast Forward in the first Leg.  They have the choice to go for it, but would it be worth it?

Yeah :) A Fast Forward but the prize (instead of skipping all tasks) is the Save Pass thing that would save them from elimination.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Neobie on May 31, 2014, 01:40:23 AM
I'm seeing hugs for a successful race!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 01:40:29 AM
LIVECAM UPDATE: A space has opened in the barrier... wonder what that's for...
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: paradoxinee on May 31, 2014, 01:40:54 AM
How about a penalty come with the Save though.  It works like your own personal non-elimination Leg.  You still get a Speed Bump, etc.

Might be money or time penalty. No way they can do Speedbump because they do not know which leg the save will be used.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 31, 2014, 01:41:45 AM
Might be money or time penalty. No way they can do Speedbump because they do not know which leg the save will be used.
Yeah, so an automatic U-Turn or Marked for Elimination.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 01:42:15 AM
looks like the cameramen are practicing running up and down the stairs.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on May 31, 2014, 01:42:24 AM
I think the crowd is parting - maybe to let teams through?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 31, 2014, 01:42:36 AM
LIVECAM UPDATE: A space has opened in the barrier... wonder what that's for...

For the teams...
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: albegrato on May 31, 2014, 01:43:07 AM
LIVECAM UPDATE: A space has opened in the barrier... wonder what that's for...

It's probably for the teams entering the plaza for Phil's first spiel, then run-up the stairs :D
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Neobie on May 31, 2014, 01:43:28 AM
Blue/blue FF team!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 01:43:33 AM
Teams are coming in!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 01:43:55 AM
LIVECAM UPDATE!

I SAW A TEAM!!!
Teams are being introduced!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Vitoko on May 31, 2014, 01:44:07 AM
Teams arriving in Taxis! :D

Looks like everyone is freezing except for a guy in a button up shirt and jeans xD
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: schwarzmoor on May 31, 2014, 01:46:20 AM
Teams!
https://twitter.com/RonWaxman/status/472629872322301952/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/RonWaxman/status/472629872322301952/photo/1)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 01:46:58 AM
Whitney from Survivor is a contestant.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Neobie on May 31, 2014, 01:47:15 AM
Blue MF
Red FF
Black/blue MF
Neon green MF
Neon green MM
Blue FF
Pink FF
Red M... M (got stuck in the cab)
Blue MF
Orange ??
Purple M?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Tar25fan on May 31, 2014, 01:48:33 AM
So far the teams:
1: green couple
2: asian couple???
3: white/aa girls
4: blue couple
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 31, 2014, 01:49:02 AM
Yay for the Asian couple! hehe
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 01:49:18 AM
There is also a 1-armed surfing female contestant.

Bethany Hamilton
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Neobie on May 31, 2014, 01:50:09 AM
The construction truck is kind of annoying! :D
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 31, 2014, 01:50:48 AM
It's fun seeing them filming those shots of the Starting Line.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: paradoxinee on May 31, 2014, 01:50:53 AM
I think 5 M/F team, 3 F/F and 3 M/M teams
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 01:51:05 AM
The construction truck is kind of annoying! :D

It is backing up. =)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on May 31, 2014, 01:51:41 AM
OMFG KEITHNEY I HAVE DIED AND GONE TO HEAVEN
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 31, 2014, 01:51:57 AM
Whitney and Keith from Survivor South Pacific are on! Team Yellow...
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: schwarzmoor on May 31, 2014, 01:52:18 AM
Another photo for teams
https://twitter.com/RonWaxman/status/472630992310509568/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/RonWaxman/status/472630992310509568/photo/1)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Neobie on May 31, 2014, 01:53:25 AM
Haha faking enthusiasm from the teams...
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Tar25fan on May 31, 2014, 01:53:31 AM
Is the woman in blue sweater without an arm??
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 31, 2014, 01:54:12 AM
Another photo for teams
https://twitter.com/RonWaxman/status/472630992310509568/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/RonWaxman/status/472630992310509568/photo/1)
omg, could there be two Asian-American teams?  :hearts: :yess:
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 01:55:48 AM
Is the woman in blue sweater without an arm??

Yes that would be bethany hamilton.  1 armed surfer.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Tar25fan on May 31, 2014, 01:56:08 AM
The purple male team looks chinese to me, while the suppost asian couple from first pic doesnt look like asian anymore for me on the other one
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 01:56:16 AM
Another photo for teams
https://twitter.com/RonWaxman/status/472630992310509568/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/RonWaxman/status/472630992310509568/photo/1)
omg, could there be two Asian-American teams?  :hearts: :yess:

That would be awesome!!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 01:56:59 AM
The purple male team looks chinese to me, while the suppost asian couple from first pic doesnt look like asian anymore for me on the other one

Im chinese so i would love to see a chinese team on this season.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Tar25fan on May 31, 2014, 01:57:40 AM
I found her partner, Adam Dirks
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 01:58:44 AM
The Save twist is REAL.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 01:59:10 AM
Team that wins first leg wins "Save" which the team can use to avoid elimination any time before the end of the 9th leg.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: paradoxinee on May 31, 2014, 01:59:56 AM
No old racers?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 02:00:09 AM
I found her partner, Adam Dirks

That is correct.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Neobie on May 31, 2014, 02:01:19 AM
Ha false alarm!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Vitoko on May 31, 2014, 02:02:00 AM
hahaha Loved the fake out! xD
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Tar25fan on May 31, 2014, 02:02:15 AM
Newlywed couple/surfers from Hawaii?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: paradoxinee on May 31, 2014, 02:02:40 AM
Only 2 M/M teams this time  :o
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 02:05:24 AM
I see teams flagging down cabs.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Neobie on May 31, 2014, 02:05:24 AM
Asking for help?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Tar25fan on May 31, 2014, 02:05:31 AM
So the first leg actually could be in Caribbean??? Punta Cana???
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 31, 2014, 02:05:56 AM
Are they all gone?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 02:06:45 AM
Yup, they're gone.

I saw some teams get in cabs and other ran off camera.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on May 31, 2014, 02:06:53 AM
GO KEITHNEY <3 :<3
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: paradoxinee on May 31, 2014, 02:06:59 AM
Some teams asked the crowd something before going?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 31, 2014, 02:07:15 AM
Wonder what some teams asked the crowd?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: WinTar on May 31, 2014, 02:07:25 AM
OMG Where are they going?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Vitoko on May 31, 2014, 02:07:40 AM
Were they asking information to the crowd? O.o

Someone must know something... Quick! To Twitter!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on May 31, 2014, 02:08:00 AM
Going to Flushing Meadows Park in Queens! TAR1 finish point!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: paradoxinee on May 31, 2014, 02:08:05 AM
And they are off on #AmazingRace #TAR25. First clue takes them to the globe in Flushing Meadows park in Queens. pic.twitter.com/DhOWphAIxy

So some teams might ask the crowd the direction to go there.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 31, 2014, 02:08:28 AM
Flushing Meadows Park!

Quote
Ron Waxman ‏@RonWaxman 5m
And they are off on #AmazingRace #TAR25. First clue takes them to the globe in Flushing Meadows park in Queens. pic.twitter.com/DhOWphAIxy
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Tar25fan on May 31, 2014, 02:08:59 AM
Why does the read team remind me of Art & JJ?? I hope theres no return teams
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 02:09:45 AM
Everyone thought they were going to the TAR 1 starting line (Bethesda Fountain)... turns out they're going to the TAR 1 FINISH line - Flushing Meadows Park!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: clayslawn on May 31, 2014, 02:10:41 AM
why is everyone sticking around?

release forms?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Vitoko on May 31, 2014, 02:11:00 AM
If the teams are going to the Flushing Meadows Park, the clue probably ask them to go to the First Finish Line of The Amazing Race... and that is why some of the teams were asking for info...
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on May 31, 2014, 02:12:01 AM
Whitney Duncan slow runner goddess <333333333333333333333
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 31, 2014, 02:12:33 AM
If the teams are going to the Flushing Meadows Park, the clue probably ask them to go to the First Finish Line of The Amazing Race... and that is why some of the teams were asking for info...
That would be fun especially if there are TAR fans who've been there from the beginning. :)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: clayslawn on May 31, 2014, 02:13:04 AM
If the teams are going to the Flushing Meadows Park, the clue probably ask them to go to the First Finish Line of The Amazing Race... and that is why some of the teams were asking for info...

probably a picture of the globe.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: gamerfan09 on May 31, 2014, 02:13:47 AM
Just by seeing the cast and the exciting SL, it looks like this is gonna be a season for the books. :)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Philimination on May 31, 2014, 02:14:30 AM
If the teams are going to the Flushing Meadows Park, the clue probably ask them to go to the First Finish Line of The Amazing Race... and that is why some of the teams were asking for info...

probably a picture of the globe.
This is a HISTORIC season... think about it... most likely it is what Vitoko says, a clue that instructs teams to go to the finish line of TAR 1.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: eddiethejet on May 31, 2014, 02:16:04 AM
Since the race is now LIVE, why dont we move all discussions to the general discussions thread?

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,30031.0.html (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,30031.0.html)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Alenaveda on May 31, 2014, 02:16:24 AM
Ok, guys. The race is on. Time to move discussions and spec to the Speculations and Discussions of Spoilers:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,30031.0.html

Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: dryedmangoez on May 31, 2014, 02:16:44 AM
Pretty clever though having teams go to another location to get their clue for their first destination, away from the crowds lol
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: colav10 on May 31, 2014, 02:19:36 AM
Got a couple photos from the webcam.

1. Phil with arm in air and teams ready to start racing:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd171/wdwmaps/tar25-teams1_zps9cbc34ad.png)

2. Phil having just said, "Go!" and teams starting to run past him and toward the stairs:
(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd171/wdwmaps/tar25-teams2_zpsc1c0d9d3.png)


Enjoy!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theschnauzers on May 31, 2014, 02:20:54 AM
By the time these teams get to Flushing Meadows, assuming that info is correct, it will be close to the same time of day that Rob and Brennan reach Flushing Meadows and the Uniglobe to win season one.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Reilly Queens on May 31, 2014, 02:35:55 AM
If the start line is in Times Square and with a picture of Phil at the fountain doing a stand up.. maybe the first clue is to "Head to the start line of the first starting line" and they ask the many fans watching them where it is..

half right :lol: they asked for the first finish line..
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: DrRox on May 31, 2014, 02:40:03 AM
Well the subway station at 42nd and Broadway (the other end of Times Square) is one of the largest in the city. You can get to Flushing from there. Now, whether it is better to take the subway or a taxi at this time of the night is another matter. Some of the teams were running in that direction.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Katarina on May 31, 2014, 05:34:18 AM
I think producer want F/F team win !!!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 31, 2014, 05:36:17 AM
I think producer want F/F team win !!!

But I think it's more of TAR looking at our CVWLTS Thread. :)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Lemontail on May 31, 2014, 06:58:02 AM
Since they goes to London, I speculate that there will be a Switchback to TAR 17's leg 1 Roadblock. Maybe?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: albegrato on May 31, 2014, 07:03:41 AM
I think producer want F/F team win !!!

But I think it's more of TAR looking at our CVWLTS Thread. :)

That's some wishful thinking ;)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: HurricaneHowieWood on May 31, 2014, 05:59:14 PM
CBS has released the official team list...

*** Bethany Hamilton and Adam Dirks: Married Surfers from Princeville, Hawaii

*** Kym Perfetto and Alli Forsythe: Urban Bike Racers from Brooklyn, N.Y.

*** Amy DeJong and Maya Warren: Food Scientists from Madison, Wisc.

*** Lisa Thomson and Michelle Thomson: Realtor Sisters from Miami, Fla.

*** Michael Ward and Scott Strazzullo: Firefighters from Boston, Mass.

*** Brooke Adams and Robbie E. Strauss: Dating Pro Wrestlers from Houston, Texas and Woodbridge, N.J., respectively.

*** Tim Tsao and Te Jay McGrath: College Sweethearts from Pasadena, Calif.

*** Isabelle Du and Dennis Hour: Model and Accountant, respectively, from Tustin, Calif.

*** Keith Tollefson and Whitney Duncan: Engaged Couple from Nashville, Tenn.

*** Misti and Jim Raman: Married Dentists from Columbia, S.C.

*** Shelley and Nici Porter: Mother/Daughter from Detroit, Mich.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Dånooky on May 31, 2014, 06:49:33 PM
CBS has released the official team list...

*** Bethany Hamilton and Adam Dirks: Married Surfers from Princeville, Hawaii

*** Kym Perfetto and Alli Forsythe: Urban Bike Racers from Brooklyn, N.Y.

*** Amy DeJong and Maya Warren: Food Scientists from Madison, Wisc.

*** Lisa Thomson and Michelle Thomson: Realtor Sisters from Miami, Fla.

*** Michael Ward and Scott Strazzullo: Firefighters from Boston, Mass.

*** Brooke Adams and Robbie E. Strauss: Dating Pro Wrestlers from Houston, Texas and Woodbridge, N.J., respectively.

*** Tim Tsao and Te Jay McGrath: College Sweethearts from Pasadena, Calif.

*** Isabelle Du and Dennis Hour: Model and Accountant, respectively, from Tustin, Calif.

*** Keith Tollefson and Whitney Duncan: Engaged Couple from Nashville, Tenn.

*** Misti and Jim Raman: Married Dentists from Columbia, S.C.

*** Shelley and Nici Porter: Mother/Daughter from Detroit, Mich.

they all sound so average and common <3
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on May 31, 2014, 07:27:06 PM
And they all come from different places! Even a team from Hawaii!
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Tar25fan on May 31, 2014, 07:28:41 PM
Robbie lives a county away from me, never seen somebody so close to me on TAR before
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 31, 2014, 09:39:34 PM
CBS has released the official team list...

*** Bethany Hamilton and Adam Dirks: Married Surfers from Princeville, Hawaii

*** Kym Perfetto and Alli Forsythe: Urban Bike Racers from Brooklyn, N.Y.

*** Amy DeJong and Maya Warren: Food Scientists from Madison, Wisc.

*** Lisa Thomson and Michelle Thomson: Realtor Sisters from Miami, Fla.

*** Michael Ward and Scott Strazzullo: Firefighters from Boston, Mass.

*** Brooke Adams and Robbie E. Strauss: Dating Pro Wrestlers from Houston, Texas and Woodbridge, N.J., respectively.

*** Tim Tsao and Te Jay McGrath: College Sweethearts from Pasadena, Calif.

*** Isabelle Du and Dennis Hour: Model and Accountant, respectively, from Tustin, Calif.

*** Keith Tollefson and Whitney Duncan: Engaged Couple from Nashville, Tenn.

*** Misti and Jim Raman: Married Dentists from Columbia, S.C.

*** Shelley and Nici Porter: Mother/Daughter from Detroit, Mich.
What's the relationship between that? (R.I.P. real relationship statuses)
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on May 31, 2014, 09:56:04 PM
CBS has released the official team list...

*** Bethany Hamilton and Adam Dirks: Married Surfers from Princeville, Hawaii

*** Kym Perfetto and Alli Forsythe: Urban Bike Racers from Brooklyn, N.Y.

*** Amy DeJong and Maya Warren: Food Scientists from Madison, Wisc.

*** Lisa Thomson and Michelle Thomson: Realtor Sisters from Miami, Fla.

*** Michael Ward and Scott Strazzullo: Firefighters from Boston, Mass.

*** Brooke Adams and Robbie E. Strauss: Dating Pro Wrestlers from Houston, Texas and Woodbridge, N.J., respectively.

*** Tim Tsao and Te Jay McGrath: College Sweethearts from Pasadena, Calif.

*** Isabelle Du and Dennis Hour: Model and Accountant, respectively, from Tustin, Calif.

*** Keith Tollefson and Whitney Duncan: Engaged Couple from Nashville, Tenn.

*** Misti and Jim Raman: Married Dentists from Columbia, S.C.

*** Shelley and Nici Porter: Mother/Daughter from Detroit, Mich.
What's the relationship between that? (R.I.P. real relationship statuses)

I remember TAR 20 & TAR 21's relationship statuses were.. PRECISEly odd :lol:

Joey "Fitness" & Danny were titled as "Trainer & Club Promoter"
Brendon & Rachel were titled as "PhD Student & Event Hostess" :funny:
Rob & Sheila were "Lumberjack/Marketing Exec"
James & Abba "Rockstar/Lawyer"

Probably a way to make the teams seem diverse.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: RachelLeVega on May 31, 2014, 10:05:47 PM
CBS has released the official team list...

*** Bethany Hamilton and Adam Dirks: Married Surfers from Princeville, Hawaii

*** Kym Perfetto and Alli Forsythe: Urban Bike Racers from Brooklyn, N.Y.

*** Amy DeJong and Maya Warren: Food Scientists from Madison, Wisc.

*** Lisa Thomson and Michelle Thomson: Realtor Sisters from Miami, Fla.

*** Michael Ward and Scott Strazzullo: Firefighters from Boston, Mass.

*** Brooke Adams and Robbie E. Strauss: Dating Pro Wrestlers from Houston, Texas and Woodbridge, N.J., respectively.

*** Tim Tsao and Te Jay McGrath: College Sweethearts from Pasadena, Calif.

*** Isabelle Du and Dennis Hour: Model and Accountant, respectively, from Tustin, Calif.

*** Keith Tollefson and Whitney Duncan: Engaged Couple from Nashville, Tenn.

*** Misti and Jim Raman: Married Dentists from Columbia, S.C.

*** Shelley and Nici Porter: Mother/Daughter from Detroit, Mich.
What's the relationship between that? (R.I.P. real relationship statuses)

I remember TAR 20 & TAR 21's relationship statuses were.. PRECISEly odd :lol:

Joey "Fitness" & Danny were titled as "Trainer & Club Promoter"
Brendon & Rachel were titled as "PhD Student & Event Hostess" :funny:
Rob & Sheila were "Lumberjack/Marketing Exec"
James & Abba "Rockstar/Lawyer"

Probably a way to make the teams seem diverse.
:funny: If there's no relationship between the jobs, then just put "friends". It's not that difficult to put one word down instead of three of four words that don't even relate. They're trying way too hard to turn TAR into Survivor with their lengthy occupation descriptions.

Brendon & Rachel (engaged) and Rob & Sheila's (married) relationship cards at the left corner just annoyed me.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 31, 2014, 10:13:19 PM
CBS has released the official team list...

*** Bethany Hamilton and Adam Dirks: Married Surfers from Princeville, Hawaii

*** Kym Perfetto and Alli Forsythe: Urban Bike Racers from Brooklyn, N.Y.

*** Amy DeJong and Maya Warren: Food Scientists from Madison, Wisc.

*** Lisa Thomson and Michelle Thomson: Realtor Sisters from Miami, Fla.

*** Michael Ward and Scott Strazzullo: Firefighters from Boston, Mass.

*** Brooke Adams and Robbie E. Strauss: Dating Pro Wrestlers from Houston, Texas and Woodbridge, N.J., respectively.

*** Tim Tsao and Te Jay McGrath: College Sweethearts from Pasadena, Calif.

*** Isabelle Du and Dennis Hour: Model and Accountant, respectively, from Tustin, Calif.

*** Keith Tollefson and Whitney Duncan: Engaged Couple from Nashville, Tenn.

*** Misti and Jim Raman: Married Dentists from Columbia, S.C.

*** Shelley and Nici Porter: Mother/Daughter from Detroit, Mich.
What's the relationship between that? (R.I.P. real relationship statuses)

I remember TAR 20 & TAR 21's relationship statuses were.. PRECISEly odd :lol:

Joey "Fitness" & Danny were titled as "Trainer & Club Promoter"
Brendon & Rachel were titled as "PhD Student & Event Hostess" :funny:
Rob & Sheila were "Lumberjack/Marketing Exec"
James & Abba "Rockstar/Lawyer"

Probably a way to make the teams seem diverse.
:funny: If there's no relationship between the jobs, then just put "friends". It's not that difficult to put one word down instead of three of four words that don't even relate. They're trying way too hard to turn TAR into Survivor with their lengthy occupation descriptions.

Brendon & Rachel (engaged) and Rob & Sheila's (married) relationship cards at the left corner just annoyed me.

 :funny: R.I.P. real relationship statuses. :funny: And weren't Rob & Sheila just engaged during that time?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: theschnauzers on May 31, 2014, 10:15:54 PM

 :funny: If there's no relationship between the jobs, then just put "friends". It's not that difficult to put one word down instead of three of four words that don't even relate. They're trying way too hard to turn TAR into Survivor with their lengthy occupation descriptions.

Brendon & Rachel (engaged) and Rob & Sheila's (married) relationship cards at the left corner just annoyed me.

Has anyone realized the unique, first time ever nature of this one?
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*** Tim Tsao and Te Jay McGrath: College Sweethearts from Pasadena, Calif.

A same sex couple being described as "college sweethearts" -- if that doesn't encapsulate the rapid pace of social change in the US, I don't know what does.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on May 31, 2014, 10:29:27 PM

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*** Tim Tsao and Te Jay McGrath: College Sweethearts from Pasadena, Calif.

A same sex couple being described as "college sweethearts" -- if that doesn't encapsulate the rapid pace of social change in the US, I don't know what does.

I find it very weird tbh. I think it's becoming normal nowadays. Btw, who knows which 1 of them is the gay?
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: paradoxinee on May 31, 2014, 10:33:49 PM
Both of them are gay based on what I see on their facebooks. They're couple.

Isabella and Dennis  also are a couple.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Air on May 31, 2014, 11:00:31 PM

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*** Tim Tsao and Te Jay McGrath: College Sweethearts from Pasadena, Calif.

A same sex couple being described as "college sweethearts" -- if that doesn't encapsulate the rapid pace of social change in the US, I don't know what does.

I find it very weird tbh. I think it's becoming normal nowadays. Btw, who knows which 1 of them is the gay?

A) it is normal
B) I don't think you understand, logically, how a same sex relationship works

A gay, if wanting to date another male, will probably date another gay or bi person. Therefore, they are both gay or bi. There can't be just ONE gay.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: Platrium on June 01, 2014, 12:36:42 AM

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*** Tim Tsao and Te Jay McGrath: College Sweethearts from Pasadena, Calif.

A same sex couple being described as "college sweethearts" -- if that doesn't encapsulate the rapid pace of social change in the US, I don't know what does.

I find it very weird tbh. I think it's becoming normal nowadays. Btw, who knows which 1 of them is the gay?

A) it is normal
B) I don't think you understand, logically, how a same sex relationship works

A gay, if wanting to date another male, will probably date another gay or bi person. Therefore, they are both gay or bi. There can't be just ONE gay.

Okay, learned something new today. :stare Thanks for the clarification.
Title: Re: pre TAR 25 speculation+ Start Line DIscussion *Be a Part of History!*
Post by: georgiapeach on June 01, 2014, 03:21:24 AM
Thank you all for watching!! Did you see me? I waved at you!  :<3

Locking this now and will move everything to the right place later!