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Title: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on February 24, 2008, 03:20:18 AM
HELL'S KITCHEN SEASON 4 PREMIER APRIL 1, 2008

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Hell's Kitchen: Gordon Ramsay's Wife Talks about His Outbursts

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/hells-kitchen/hells-kitchen-gordon-ramsays-w-16963.aspx (http://www.buddytv.com/articles/hells-kitchen/hells-kitchen-gordon-ramsays-w-16963.aspx)

One would guess that the kind of heavy-handed, invective-laden style Gordon Ramsay brings to Hell's Kitchen is something he knows well enough to leave at work at the end of the day. It might make a kitchen run smoothly, but it's not exactly a particularly promising way to bring about a well-running, harmonious household.

Surely he must sometimes feel frustrated or aggravated at home – after all, he has four young children, including a set of twins. But it turns out that while his temper might mainly make an appearance on the television or in the professional kitchen, his wife's not exactly thrilled with it in those contexts either.

The Hell's Kitchen star and his wife Cayetana Elizabeth Ramsay – known as Tana – have been married since 1996. Her husband's business is doubly important to her as her father is actually responsible for the business operations for the chef's restaurant holdings.

While his tv exposure has likely helped increase the business of those restaurants, Tana admits that she doesn't exactly love watching him on TV. In fact, she admits that watching him lose his temper makes her “cringe.”

She says that it's the social fall out from her husband's outbursts on shows like Hell's Kitchen or Kitchen Nightmares that really get to her.

"Gordon doesn't care what people think, which is fine for him," she said, "but I have to do the school run the next day."

She knows that her status as a spouse of a famous – and famously volatile – chef garners a bit of attention, but it would appear it's attention she would prefer to do without. "I feel people looking at me,” she said, “and I want to say 'if you've got something to say, then say it'".

The new season of Hell's Kitchen starts in April, so unfortunately for Tana, we can expect a lot more stateside swearing from Gordon soon.

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: RudyRules on February 24, 2008, 05:14:57 AM
you watch this ca bb? 
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: puddin on February 24, 2008, 10:57:50 AM
Thanks ca bb I had no idea it was starting so soon  :jumpy: I love me some Gordon!
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on February 24, 2008, 02:48:05 PM
Thanks ca bb I had no idea it was starting so soon  :jumpy: I love me some Gordon!


 :hearts: What woman doesn't, he is one of the sexiest foul mouthed #@!* man ever  :lol3:

 :jumpy: Yes I love this show RudyRules
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on February 24, 2008, 03:03:22 PM
.... it's not fully updated yet but anyways at least we have some dates

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Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on February 24, 2008, 04:43:15 PM
Even I watch the late rounds of Hell's Kitchen. It's very different from TopChef in drawing on a bit lower cut of the talent pool, but the personalities of the chefs are fascinating and Ramsay himself is worth watching how he has sets things up and maneuvers. His tirades are seldom found in the late episodes, so it's really all for show.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on February 24, 2008, 06:17:58 PM
Even I watch the late rounds of Hell's Kitchen. It's very different from TopChef in drawing on a bit lower cut of the talent pool, but the personalities of the chefs are fascinating and Ramsay himself is worth watching how he has sets things up and maneuvers. His tirades are seldom found in the late episodes, so it's really all for show.

I sooo agree apskip.

Hell’s Kitchen can find contestants from small towns such as oh let’s say Lake Wobegon and gives them an opportunity to show their talent of cooking and a chance of becoming “America’s next culinary star”. What a great opportunity for these young inspiring chefs.

I often wonder do these contestants ever watch the show as they seem frightened by Ramsay’s outbursts.

Nonetheless I love everything about this show.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on February 24, 2008, 08:55:50 PM
 :jumpy: :jumpy: :wohoo: :wohoo:

I LOVE this show!! (Love Top Chef too but they are very different.)

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: RudyRules on February 26, 2008, 12:50:28 AM
Hmmm...maybe I'll give it a try.  Have never watched it, not even once!   
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on February 26, 2008, 06:16:16 AM
Hmmm...maybe I'll give it a try.  Have never watched it, not even once!   

 :-* your kidding, oh you have to watch it give it a try.

Aside from Ramsay's outbursts, which just makes me laugh.

It really is interesting to watch these chefs compete and hopfully complete a full dinner service.

I won't give to much away, but great your willing to watch it.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on February 26, 2008, 01:35:15 PM
Hmmm...maybe I'll give it a try.  Have never watched it, not even once!   

Ca is right, it is interesting! What is more amazing, as they lose chefs, they have to work harder and harder to get the full course dinner out and they usually manage to do it. Somehow!
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on February 26, 2008, 02:01:10 PM
Hmmm...maybe I'll give it a try.  Have never watched it, not even once!   

Ca is right, it is interesting! What is more amazing, as they lose chefs, they have to work harder and harder to get the full course dinner out and they usually manage to do it. Somehow!

I see this as a fairly simple process. As the less competent chefs get eliminated, the ones left are the most talented and usually (but not always) the quickest with their knives (on the vegetables and meat of course, not on their fellow competitors). With few weak links, the teamwork also improves. That's how they manage to get a multi-course meal done with fewer bodies.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on February 27, 2008, 02:52:38 AM
Hmmm...maybe I'll give it a try.  Have never watched it, not even once!   

Ca is right, it is interesting! What is more amazing, as they lose chefs, they have to work harder and harder to get the full course dinner out and they usually manage to do it. Somehow!

I see this as a fairly simple process. As the less competent chefs get eliminated, the ones left are the most talented and usually (but not always) the quickest with their knives (on the vegetables and meat of course, not on their fellow competitors). With few weak links, the teamwork also improves. That's how they manage to get a multi-course meal done with fewer bodies.

 :lol3: oh that's funny.

Thanks for the explanation and leaving no room for confusion.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on February 27, 2008, 10:02:32 AM
Hmmm...maybe I'll give it a try.  Have never watched it, not even once!   

Ca is right, it is interesting! What is more amazing, as they lose chefs, they have to work harder and harder to get the full course dinner out and they usually manage to do it. Somehow!

I see this as a fairly simple process. As the less competent chefs get eliminated, the ones left are the most talented and usually (but not always) the quickest with their knives (on the vegetables and meat of course, not on their fellow competitors). With few weak links, the teamwork also improves. That's how they manage to get a multi-course meal done with fewer bodies.

That's true, they don't have to worry about someone screwing up the risotto or burning something but I think Ramsey's sous chefs also help out although we really don't see them other other than from a long shot.

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on March 18, 2008, 12:24:43 AM
FIFTEEN ASPIRING CHEFS ENTER THE FIRE ON THE SEASON PREMIERE OF "HELL'S KITCHEN" TUESDAY, APRIL 1, ON FOX

Winner Receives Title of "Executive Chef" at Gordon Ramsay's New Restaurant, "The London West Hollywood"

A new crop of 15 wanna-be chefs find out if they can take the heat when renowned chef Gordon Ramsay serves up the fourth course of his sizzling unscripted series HELL'S KITCHEN, premiering Tuesday, April 1 (9:00-10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX.

The "steaks" are higher than everthe winner of the competition will earn the coveted position of "Executive Chef" at Ramsay's new restaurant, "The London West Hollywood," which is scheduled to open in summer 2008.

The kitchen gets hotter each week as Ramsay puts on the pressure, demanding absolute perfection. Frazzled chefs try to slice and dice their way to the top, as they vie for Chef Ramsay's approval. The competition is more intense than ever. With more contestants and more dinner services, Gordon's sharp-tongue and flared-temper is sure to cause some major meltdowns in the kitchen.

The 15 HELL'S KITCHEN contestants are:

Ben, 29, an electrician and former chef from Charlotte, NC

Bobby, 37, an executive chef from Niagara Falls, NY

Christina, 25, a culinary student from St. Louis, MO

Corey, 25, a private chef from Brooklyn, NY

Craig, 30, a sous chef from Coram, NY

Dominic, 43, a stay-at-home dad from Catawba, SC

Jason, 29, a sous chef from Las Vegas, NV

Jen, 24, a line cook from Chicago, IL

Louross, 24, a hotel cook from Las Vegas, NV

Matt, 35, a sous chef from Pinehill, NJ

Petrozza, 47, a catering director from Charlotte, NC

Rosann, 33, a receptionist and former cook from Staten Island, NY

Sharon, 31, a room-service chef from Las Vegas, NV

Shayna, 28, a catering-company owner from Buffalo, NY

Vanessa, 31, a line cook from Bozeman, MT

Source: http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20080312fox01 (http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20080312fox01)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on March 18, 2008, 12:43:16 AM

SEASON PREMIERE HELL'S KITCHEN TUESDAY, APRIL 1, 2008

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FIFTEEN NEW CONTESTANTS FIGHT TO IMPRESS;

ONE MAKES GORDON SICK ON THE SEASON PREMIERE OF "HELL'S KITCHEN" TUESDAY, APRIL 1, ON FOX

HELL'S KITCHEN is back open for business!

The pressure is on, as this season's prize is bigger and better than ever before.

Chef Ramsay will pick one lucky contestant to become the Executive Chef for his new restaurant, The London West Hollywood.

Gordon wastes no time as he immediately sends the contestants to the kitchen to prepare their signature dish.

In the most shocking taste-test ever, Gordon gets physically sick from a contestant's concoction leaving everyone speechless.

During the first dinner service, emotions run high and one contestant goes missing. Will Gordon be forced to shut down the

kitchen? Find out on the season premiere of HELL'S KITCHEN airing Tuesday, April 1 (9:00 -10:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on March 18, 2008, 01:42:59 AM
'Hell's Kitchen' Conference Call with Gordon Ramsay

Aside from being an acclaimed chef with an array of popular restaurants to his name, Gordon Ramsay is best known for his confrontational style in the kitchen.  The master cook definitely isn't afraid of raising his voice in order to whip aspiring chefs into shape.  It's this explosive temperament that has helped make Ramsay a television star in both the U.S. and his native U.K.  His most popular American series, Hell's Kitchen, returns to FOX for its fourth season on Tuesday, April 1 at 9pm.  To get fans pumped for the return of the high stakes cooking competition, Ramsay participated in a conference call with the press to dish about the new season.

Previous seasons of Hell's Kitchen offered winners the chance to run their own restaurant, but this year's prize is bigger and better.  This time the winner of the competition will get the chance to work at Gordon Ramsay's new restaurant, The London West Hollywood, where they'll work as an executive chef.  Ramsay pointed out that this gives him a personal stake in the contest, as the person he chooses will make him look bad if they're incompetent.

"I put my money where my mouth is," the chef stated.  "I put my neck on the line."

Over 22,000 people applied to be part of the fourth season of the FOX series, with only 15 making it through to the finals.  Ramsay mentioned that he's more excited about this season than any previous year, mainly due to the level of professionalism among the chefs.  He added that the women are more talented than ever in season 4, which he found refreshing since the restaurant industry is often dominated by chauvinistic males.

Aside from the tense kitchen standoffs that fans of the show have come to expect, the new year of Hell's Kitchen will have some unexpected twists.  One thing that should provide lots of laughs is the fact that Ramsay himself got in on the competition.  The chef was decked out in extensive makeup, including long hair and a ponytail, and went in undercover as "Terrance from Texas."  The disguise allowed him to spy on his fellow chefs and see how they worked when "Gordon" wasn't around.

Perhaps the best thing about the series is the variety found amongst the competitors.  The finalists for season 4 include a few people with little experience in a restaurant, including a stay-at-home dad and a receptionist.  Ramsay stated that, "It's much more exciting to me when you can pluck somebody out of obscurity."  He mentioned that the people who don't start out as professionals often have a greater level of passion in the kitchen.

Chef Ramsay dropped other interesting tidbits about the season, such as the fact that all the previous winners will be back to help with the judging.  This should also provide an opportunity to see how successful the winners from the first three seasons have been.

As for the future of the series, fans who can't get enough Hell's Kitchen will be happy to hear that season 5 has already completed filming.  According to Ramsay, FOX decided to film two seasons back to back for economical reasons, to help utilize the expensive kitchen sets.  Season 5 will likely air on FOX over the summer.

One thing we can bet on is that, come April 1, there will be a lot of real-life drama in those sweltering, high pressure kitchens.  "We do have good days, we do have bad days, we do have meltdowns, and we do have tears," Ramsay admitted.  "For me, it's real.  I've done nothing but keep it real."

Source: http://www.buddytv.com/articles/hells-kitchen/hells-kitchen-conference-call-17696.aspx (http://www.buddytv.com/articles/hells-kitchen/hells-kitchen-conference-call-17696.aspx)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on March 18, 2008, 07:37:33 AM
You're doing some terrific work carrying the ball on Hell's Kitchen 4, ca bb fan. Keep up this up.  16 weeks to the Finale.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on March 18, 2008, 08:14:07 AM
 :wohoo: :jumpy: :wohoo:

I think in a lot of ways I like Hell's Kitchen better than Top Chef. As apskip said, you are doing a terrific job here, keep it up for sure!

16 weeks!! That seems so short doesn't it!
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on March 18, 2008, 02:28:15 PM
You're doing some terrific work carrying the ball on Hell's Kitchen 4, ca bb fan. Keep up this up.  16 weeks to the Finale.

I don't want to carry the ball  :'( I could never fill your shoes  :bow: apskip, you know you rock  :lol:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on March 18, 2008, 02:32:46 PM

I think in a lot of ways I like Hell's Kitchen better than Top Chef. As apskip said, you are doing a terrific job here, keep it up for sure!

16 weeks!! That seems so short doesn't it!


Thanks TexasLady, your so kind.

It does seem short but I'm thrilled to hear that Season 5 has already been filmed and just waiting to go  :wohoo:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on March 18, 2008, 03:21:26 PM

Perhaps the best thing about the series is the variety found amongst the competitors.  The finalists for season 4 include a few people with little experience in a restaurant, including a stay-at-home dad and a receptionist.  Ramsay stated that, "It's much more exciting to me when you can pluck somebody out of obscurity."  He mentioned that the people who don't start out as professionals often have a greater level of passion in the kitchen.

This is my favorite line in the paragraph where Ramsay and I feel the same way

about Hell's Kitchen, the contestants and in life in general there is some amazing hidden talent out there

and some of the best kept secrets, somebody just needed to give them an opportunity to show their talent.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on March 20, 2008, 03:13:05 AM
'Hell's Kitchen' Gordon Ramsay putting his 'money where my mouth is'

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Gordon Ramsay said he's putting his money where his mouth is by giving Hell Kitchen's fourth-season winner an executive chef position at The London West Hollywood, a new Los Angeles restaurant he's opening this summer.

"I get very frustrated when things go wrong, clearly, and putting my neck on the line and looking for a chef for my own restaurant was almost an investment -- from my point of view -- to put back into the longevity, really, to make sure that we continue searching for talent and propelling it," Ramsay told reporters during a Monday conference call. 

"I want to put my money where my mouth is and prove to the industry that any winner of Hell's Kitchen is more than qualified and capable of standing alone in my kitchen, that's for sure."

Ramsay said the idea of having Hell's Kitchen's winner work at one of his restaurants was born out of a desire to show that he's not passing the buck when it comes to culinary up-and-comers who succeed on the Fox reality series.

"I cringe sometimes when everyone talks about a reality show with no integrity, so I thought about this idea of me looking for a chef," he said. 

Ramsay added the decision was not part of some "promotional" ploy.

"I've never been any form of marketing tool in order to promote my restaurant.  No matter how good the marketing is, if you can't deliver on the plate, you could have the best marketing, but the best marketing tool could be the worst effect for any restaurant," he said.  "Sometimes I get a lot of criticism from the industry because it's not the real deal.  Well, it is in the premier league.  If you want to go to the top, then of course you have to weather the storm.  It's not all plain sailing and it's not all about creating little pitchers out of watermelons."

In addition, Ramsay addressed criticism that some fourth-season cast members -- including a stay-at-home dad and electrician -- might not be qualified to work as an executive chef.

"That's, honestly, on the back of the experience of graduating through Hell's Kitchen and obviously the winner," he explained.  "Having an amazing team of chefs to draw upon, and like I said, this year more than any other year the stakes are raised higher because of what I'm looking for.  The position is not going to be the executive chef in terms of running it lock, stock and barrel.  That can't happen.  You can't put that kind of pressure on a previous winner.  The winner will be an executive chef within the setup of my restaurant and will be responsible for the day-to-day running."

Despite opening eateries across Europe, Ramsay himself said he was the recipient of "tough love" when he made his U.S. restaurant debut with the November 2006 opening of Gordon Ramsay at The London in The London NYC Hotel. 

"I have to say, opening up in New York taught me a lot about that level of attention to detail," he said.  "London's a tough market, Paris is a tough market, but New York, well, that's extraordinary."

However Ramsay said he's going to take what he learned from the experience and apply it to The London West Hollywood.

"Everything I learned and didn't do in New York I would put into place here in The London West Hollywood," he said.  "This is not a consultancy; this is my restaurant where the level of scrutiny is 10-times greater... It's my restaurant.  That's why I'm convinced that working with the winner of Hell's Kitchen will enable me to make sure that person is catapulted and articulate and talented and -- more importantly -- establishes that level of longevity.  That's the important part, making sure that this is a marathon we're running, it's not a 100-meter sprint, and New York has taught me that."

Dealing with the foul-mouthed British chef while competing on Hell's Kitchen isn't the only training the fourth-season winner will receive, according to Ramsay, who is also currently preparing to launch a restaurant in Paris.

"The chef's been trained for 10 years with me.  He's young, he's Italian, he's a phenomenal cook at 29 years of age.  The winner of Hell's Kitchen this year at The London West Hollywood will go under that tutorage as well," he explained. 

"Of course they're not going to be running it.  They can't in the short time that I've been connected to that person, but the guidance, the infrastructure, and that's why it gets really tedious sometimes when everyone judges me.  It's not me.  The team and I have been together since October 1993 -- whether it's Angela Hartnett or Marcus Wareing or Mark Sergeant -- they are phenomenal chefs.  They're partners that will be together in making sure the London West Hollywood is a united front."

With all of his American experience, Ramsay is promising "fireworks" at The London West Hollywood -- "from the canapes right through to the desserts."

"More importantly, I've been here for three years now.  I've been in New York for 15 months.  Winning two stars in the Zagat, No. 1 Best Newcomer within 10 months of opening in New York has taught me a big lesson," he said.  "Come out of the trap strong, explode from day one and more importantly, the ingredients there are phenomenal.  It's not going to be sedated, heavy, rich French cuisine; it's going to be a light and American, California-style with a bit of a Japanese influence.  Everything is healthy, fresh, but more importantly, if you think customers are impatient in New York, wait to you see how impatient they are here in L.A."

Since he's "invested heavily" in The London West Hollywood with a 10-year lease, Ramsay vowed to not "get sucked up in is the trend formation of restaurants."

"The style, the feel and the decor of the dining room is vibrant.  It's very L.A., very cool fabrics, lots of silver, lots of nickel, brushed stainless steel and lots of cream fabric," he said.  "It's going to be fast, it's going to be furious and more importantly, we have that level of intimacy, that level of fun without being long-winded.  That's really important."

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/hell-kitchen-gordon-ramsay-putting-his-money-where-my-mouth-is-6756.php (http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/hell-kitchen-gordon-ramsay-putting-his-money-where-my-mouth-is-6756.php)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on March 20, 2008, 03:19:10 AM
.... another article I thought I would share

'Hell's Kitchen' star Gordon Ramsay dishes about the fourth season

Consider Gordon Ramsay among those fired up about Hell's Kitchen's fourth installment -- the first edition to premiere before the show's usual summer programming season.

"I'm very excited about Season 4, more so than any other year before.  When you look at the setup in terms of the level of professionalism, this year we've raised the bar," Ramsay told reporters during a Monday conference call.

Unlike earlier editions, Hell's Kitchen's fourth-season cast will be competing for an executive chef position in one of Ramsay's own restaurants -- The London West Hollywood.

"Looking for a chef personally is something I've stood by, got very nervous about and more importantly, I'd like to think that we have the most amazing -- I hate that word 'cast' -- I call them chefs.  Fox wanted to run a show and I run the restaurant, so it's a great team of chefs, more so than any other year."

The foul-mouthed British chef also immediately heaped praise on the "talented" fourth-season female contestants, describing them as "amazing."

"I've never seen anything quite like it," he said.  "It's quite refreshing, really on the back of a male dominant, chauvinistic stance that kitchens have today, so I was really pleased."

Hell's Kitchen's fourth season will premiere Tuesday, April 1 at 9PM ET/PT and its 15 culinary contestants comprise the show's largest cast ever.  However according to Ramsay, the cast originally featured 16 contestants.  Sort of.

"I actually get put into this prosthetic mask -- my name is Terrance from Texas -- and I'm actually made up as one of the contestants, so nobody spots it," he explained.  "It's quite a fascinating behavior to see them on the bus and that's without my presence, unknown to them, of course.  It's a really different way of setting it up.  Of course, the pressure is on this year more than any other before because of the sequence of events with my restaurant.  I'm taking it more seriously than ever before and the stakes are a lot higher."

In addition, Ramsay said Hell's Kitchen first-season winner Michael Wray, second-season champ Heather West, and third-season winner Rock Harper all had a role in the show's fourth edition.

"I had all the previous winners this year on Season 4 back judging, which was just so nice to see them grow in stature and maturity," said Ramsay.  "Given that level of responsibility with your 25-year old or 35-year-old chef, it's just quite nice to see how they handled that exposure.  Not every chef deals with it properly; they get slightly excited, a little bit overconfident and then they miss out on the most important part."

Since Hell's Kitchen fourth-season winner will be working as an executive chef at one of Ramsay's own restaurants, he said being a chef is "not just about the cooking" -- something the culinary up-and-comers need to understand. 

In addition, Ramsay said it's the customers' opinion that counts, not reviews from the contestants' potential contemporaries.

"It's quite weird knocking that out of them and telling them to forget cooking for chefs; forget what chefs say about your food.  The level of jealousy and insecurity in this industry is far greater than ever before," explained Ramsay.  "Focus on your customers and make that restaurant synonymous to where you are in terms of area.  Regionalize it from the ingredients to locally sourced, local purveyors and make sure you stay in touch with what's keeping in the area; not what's going on in Barcelona, not what's happening in the middle of Paris.  Stay with what's happening locally.  It's really important."

Despite bestowing the winner with the title of executive chef at The London West Hollywood, Ramsay said important positions are not what Hell's Kitchen is about.

"When chefs enter this industry and they graduate from culinary school they chase silly titles, which means nothing," he said.  "What is an executive chef?  It's a chef that operates a computer that hits a P&L account and goes through a budgeting format with a food and beverage manager.  If you're going to be a chef, then cook.  There's no greater joy."

While the fourth-season contestants no doubt have joy in cooking, they might be singing a different tune under Ramsay's tutelage in the Hell's Kitchen kitchen.  However he said there's no difference whether their work in the kitchen is being filmed or not.

"We do have good days and we do have bad days.  We do have meltdowns and we do have tears.  That goes on in any top-flight kitchen," he explained.  "Now, if I was running a mediocre, run-of-the-mill, Caesar salad, flip-a-burger, of course there's no heat.  When you decide to cook at that level and you want it to be perfect, it's harmony when it hits perfection.  For me, it's real.  I've done nothing but keep it real.  I think that proves in the level of contestants that want to become good chefs that apply to get on there."

Ramsay said he has actually come to enjoy discovering chefs -- such as former third-season contestant and Waffle House cook Julia Williams -- via the Fox reality series.

"Watching domestic, talented individuals, determined chefs that have the desire and want that chance to succeed, it's far more exciting for me when you can pick out somebody from obscurity and bring them through and propel the talent and run that against an executive chef any day," he said.  "That's far more rewarding from my point of view -- at the age of 41, having cooked for 21 years -- because it is a natural level of ability that they really do get excited.  It's a natural turn-on as opposed to a natural excitement chasing a title.  There's a big difference."

Still, Ramsay said he's all about eateries and not television, which is why Hell's Kitchen's infamous dinner services are so intense.

"There's nothing played for any form of camera.  You see 44 or 42 minutes of the edited version and I run service from 6:00 until 10:00 -- four hours -- and cook for 120 guests.  Of course it's going to look like it's combustive, tenacious and full of drama, and it is, but there's no script," he said.  "That's why I fight every week that that restaurant opens -- to make sure I run the restaurant and not a show."

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/hell-kitchen-star-gordon-ramsay-dishes-about-fourth-season-6757.php (http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/hell-kitchen-star-gordon-ramsay-dishes-about-fourth-season-6757.php)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on March 22, 2008, 05:08:07 PM
 Thank you so much cabbfan I can't wait for April 1st after reading your update from that Sexy chef! :-[
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on March 22, 2008, 07:53:44 PM
Thank you so much cabbfan I can't wait for April 1st after reading your update from that Sexy chef! :-[

 :lol: Me too I can't wait
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: RudyRules on March 22, 2008, 10:09:21 PM
Ohhh...this is on Fox?  I thought it was on a channel I don't have.  Oh wait.  :groan:  I'm confusing this show with a similar one.  Whatever, now that I know Hell's Kitchen is on Fox, I'll give it a try.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: RudyRules on March 22, 2008, 10:11:04 PM
Top Chef! That's the other kitchen show...and it's on Bravo which I do not have.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on March 22, 2008, 11:43:36 PM
Ohhh...this is on Fox?  I thought it was on a channel I don't have.  Oh wait.  :groan:  I'm confusing this show with a similar one.  Whatever, now that I know Hell's Kitchen is on Fox, I'll give it a try.

 :-* Oh good RudyRules I think you'll like the show.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on March 23, 2008, 06:56:30 AM

New Endeavor for 'Hell's Kitchen' Sous Chef

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While Gordon Ramsay might be the face – and mouth – of Hell's Kitchen, he's not the only person on the show who's there to brow beat the contestants into either excellence or a quivering jelly-like pile of nerves. Ramsay also has his sous chefs Scott Liebfried and MaryAnn Salcedo, who aren't exactly the warm and fuzzy nurturing kind in their interactions with the chef contestants either.

In Gordon Ramsay's recent conference call about the next season of Hell's Kitchen, he didn't mention if those two will be returning, but MaryAnn, at least, is starting a new role and making some comments about Hell's Kitchen that indicate the third season might have been the chef's last.

MaryAnn has a culinary arts degree from the Institute for Culinary Education. She's also been Head Chef at Green Street Café and Executive Sous Chef at Rene Pujol Restaurant in New York, Executive Chef at Harvest Valley Restaurant and Caminito Argentinean Restaurant in Massachusetts, in New York City. She was also Executive Chef at Citizen Smith in Hollywood, CA.

She is now taking on a new role at NeoMeze in Pasadena, and talking about her time on Hell's Kitchen in a way that doesn't sound promising for her return. She does say that working with Gordon Ramsay was an honor, but that she found attempting to “teach waffle-house cooks” (a reference to third season chef contestant Julia Williams) absurd.

MaryAnn's new restaurant was called one of CitySearch's top seven fusion restaurants in L.A. What can you expect if you head out to the Hell's Kitchen alum's new gig?

MaryAnn said that her previous experience "contributed to [her] philosophy of showcasing high-quality ingredients, uncompromised by excessive embellishments…When you have a great piece of Kobe beef, you don't have to dress it up in a hat or suit and tie."

Source: http://www.buddytv.com/articles/hells-kitchen/new-endeavor-for-hells-kitchen-17858.aspx (http://www.buddytv.com/articles/hells-kitchen/new-endeavor-for-hells-kitchen-17858.aspx)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on March 25, 2008, 10:31:05 PM
'Hell's Kitchen's Gordon Ramsay swears he doesn't like cursing

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This may come as a shock to anyone who has watched celebrity chef Gordon Ramsay turn red with anger and explode into a fit of expletives directed at his kitchen staff and customers alike, but the "Hell's Kitchen" host doesn't like to curse. Honestly.

"That may sound slightly bizarre, but trust me, it's not my fault entirely," Gordon explained. "It's the industry's language, and any chef would be a hypocrite if they didn't admit to swearing in the kitchen.

"It's something I'm not proud of; every time [I do it] I get reminded of that by my mother."

"Hell's Kitchen" returns April 1 (at 9 p.m.) for its fourth season on Fox. The reality competition pits 15 chefs (not all of them professionals) from throughout the United States in weekly cooking challenges preparing dinners for the demanding Ramsay.

This season's winner will become executive chef at Ramsay's new restaurant, the London West Hollywood, scheduled to open in the summer.

"The position is not going to be the executive chef in terms of running it lock, stock and barrel," said Ramsay. "You can't put that kind of pressure on them. But the winner will be an executive chef within the setup of my restaurant and will be responsible for the day-to-day running."

Ramsay said he's "very excited" about the new season because the stakes are higher and the talent is deeper.

"It's a great team of chefs, more so than any other year, and an amazing, talented female following this year; I've never seen anything quite like it," Ramsay said.

"It's quite refreshing, really, on the back of a male-dominant, chauvinistic stance that kitchens have today, so I was really pleased."

As for the intensity of the show and his temper, the chef says it's all real and never played up for television.

"Of course, it's going to look like it's combustive, tenacious and full of drama - it is," said Ramsay. "But there's no script. That's why I fight every week so the restaurant is open, to make sure I run a restaurant and not a show."

Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2008/03/24/2008-03-24_hells_kitchens_gordon_ramsay_swears_he_d.html?ref=rss (http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2008/03/24/2008-03-24_hells_kitchens_gordon_ramsay_swears_he_d.html?ref=rss)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on March 25, 2008, 10:38:57 PM

Fiery cook reveals season 4 has a lot of crying — mostly from the boys

An interview with Gordon Ramsay in the enclosed link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23796795/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23796795/)

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Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 01, 2008, 04:32:07 AM

Season Premier Of Hell's Kitchen Season 4 Is Tonight

FIFTEEN NEW CONTESTANTS FIGHT TO IMPRESs

ONE MAKES GORDON SICK ON THE SEASON PREMIERE OF "HELL'S KITCHEN" TUESDAY, APRIL 1, ON FOX

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Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 01, 2008, 11:47:21 AM
 :wohoo: :jumpy: :jumpy: It's TIVO'd and I can hardly wait to watch it tonight!!!!   :yess:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 01, 2008, 03:49:48 PM
:wohoo: :jumpy: :jumpy: It's TIVO'd and I can hardly wait to watch it tonight!!!!   :yess:


 :lol: Same here rosesrred I can hardley wait

I hope it lives up to our expectations
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 02, 2008, 12:41:36 AM
:wohoo: :jumpy: :jumpy: It's TIVO'd and I can hardly wait to watch it tonight!!!!   :yess:


 :lol: Same here rosesrred I can hardley wait

I hope it lives up to our expectations

Ok watched it tonight and it was good I can't help but love Gordon.  But where did they get these men???   Geez they gazed more than they cooked and what was that one guy (forgot his name) that sat outside, smoked a cig and picked his feet then went in to cook!  YUCK!!!! 
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on April 02, 2008, 10:28:17 AM
I only saw the last 15 minutes, but already I'm loving this season! It's so interesting to see people emerge as leaders as we did in last night's show.   (Have it DVR'd and will watch it later today.)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: careybear on April 02, 2008, 06:57:11 PM
I tivo'd it and just got done watching it, it was fantastic. I love Gordan
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: puddin on April 02, 2008, 08:27:00 PM
I never saw Dominic leaving coming, oh well his wig had to go!!   :sucks
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 02, 2008, 10:17:00 PM
I never saw Dominic leaving coming, oh well his wig had to go!!   :sucks

I didn't see that coming either although i think he did need to go.  So many of the men could have gone they just didn't seem to know what the heck they were doing.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: puddin on April 02, 2008, 10:23:59 PM
I was laughing when Gordon said that Louross or whatever was a toilet brush  :lol3:

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Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 02, 2008, 11:59:59 PM
I was laughing when Gordon said that Louross or whatever was a toilet brush  :lol3:

 :lol: That was funny.

I can't believe that one of these contestants are going to win.

They have a far way to go.
Ramsay is going to have to do a lot of screaming to make these people good enough to work for him (:;)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 03, 2008, 05:33:08 AM
Fox's 'Hell's Kitchen's' Ratings Sizzle

On Tuesday night Fox's "Hell's Kitchen" showed it could heat up the spring when the cooking competition series had its first in-season premiere.

"Kitchen," which Fox usually airs in the summer, received a post-"American Idol" slot at 9 p.m. and posted a series-high rating (12.6 million viewers, 5.7 rating and a 14 share).

"Kitchen" retained a greater percentage of "Idol" viewers (61%) than drama "New Amsterdam" in March (42%), but less than premieres of "Moment of the Truth" (94%) and last year's debut of "Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader" (92%).

Also, CBS tried out "CSI: Miami" in their Tuesdays at 10 p.m. "death slot" and proved one of their series can post a high number in the time period (14.3 million, 4.1/11). "Miami" dominated the hour against an ABC special "Live to Be 150" (10.2 million, 2.5/7) and a repeat of "Law & Order: SVU" (5.7 million, 2.1/6). But "Miami" was down 16% from its Monday night performance.

Overall, Fox won the night (averaging 18.9 million 7.5/19), despite "Idol" hitting a four-year low (25.2 million, 9.3/25). CBS (10.3 million, 2.9/7) and NBC (7.4 million, 2.9/7) tied for second. ABC was third (10.9 million, 2.6/7) . The CW fourth (1.6, 0.7/2).
 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i95e688f1b47b858881ecea6106c037a8?imw=Y (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i95e688f1b47b858881ecea6106c037a8?imw=Y)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 03, 2008, 09:46:11 AM
Once again thank you ca bb fan  :jumpy: you are just great with your updates what would we do without you  :luvya: :thankyou:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 03, 2008, 10:35:16 PM
Once again thank you ca bb fan  :jumpy: you are just great with your updates what would we do without you  :luvya: :thankyou:

 :lol: Thank you rosesrred that is very nice of you to say :hugs:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 03, 2008, 10:38:58 PM
THE COMPETITION GETS FISHY ON "HELL'S KITCHEN"

In pursuit of the prestigious Executive Chef title of Gordon Ramsay's new restaurant, The London West Hollywood, the blue and red teams are now in the competition up to their gills.

For the first challenge, the teams must prove they can make the cut by accurately slicing a halibut into six-ounce filets.

The winning team will swim away to receive some much needed rest before the second dinner service.

The night will bring several changes, as one member of each team must work as a maitre d' while the others staff the kitchen.

Tempers flare as both teams struggle to provide the best service, yet one chef will be eliminated on HELL'S KITCHEN
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: careybear on April 04, 2008, 03:32:54 AM
I agree Tahnk you CA BB fan :hugs:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on April 04, 2008, 07:40:00 AM
I never saw Dominic leaving coming, oh well his wig had to go!!   :sucks

The wig wearer. :funny: I'm sorry to see him go, standing there with the scallops in his hand and looking for help? Priceless!

The only one who seemed to have any ability at all was "Toiletbrush" (That was awful, Gordon!)  :lol:

And how about the black Gordon Ramsey comment?  :meow: Hee (More drama to come!)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: careybear on April 04, 2008, 08:20:49 AM
I never saw Dominic leaving coming, oh well his wig had to go!!   :sucks

The wig wearer. :funny: I'm sorry to see him go, standing there with the scallops in his hand and looking for help? Priceless!

The only one who seemed to have any ability at all was "Toiletbrush" (That was awful, Gordon!)  :lol:

And how about the black Gordon Ramsey comment?  :meow: Hee (More drama to come!)

the black Gordan Ramsey that was funny, I think my favorite part was Gordan dressed up being on the bus, that was priceless
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on April 04, 2008, 09:27:25 AM
It was priceless. :snicker: My hubby wanted to know why no one on the bus spoke to "The Hippy" aka Gordon. His voice would have been a giveaway. ???

I don't see a lot of possibilities this year but perhaps the better chefs haven't been shown yet.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 04, 2008, 02:47:24 PM
I agree Thank you CA BB fan :hugs:

 :-* awww thanks careybear
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 04, 2008, 02:55:58 PM

The wig wearer. :funny: I'm sorry to see him go, standing there with the scallops in his hand and looking for help? Priceless!

The only one who seemed to have any ability at all was "Toiletbrush" (That was awful, Gordon!)  :lol:


 :lol: TL your right Dominic the poor guy at least put them in the same pan you got them from. That was too funny.

And Louross aka Toiletbrush just took control and got the guys working together. He did great.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 04, 2008, 05:18:00 PM

The wig wearer. :funny: I'm sorry to see him go, standing there with the scallops in his hand and looking for help? Priceless!

The only one who seemed to have any ability at all was "Toiletbrush" (That was awful, Gordon!)  :lol:


 :lol: TL your right Dominic the poor guy at least put them in the same pan you got them from. That was too funny.

And Louross aka Toiletbrush just took control and got the guys working together. He did great.

I agree Louross seems to be the only male with potential!  And black Gordon well I think he thinks he is much better than he actually is, he knew a whole bunch of nothing.   Hell's Kitchen is just so entertaining I'm rivited to the TV when it's on I absolutely love it!
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 05, 2008, 12:06:13 AM
Our sexy foul mouthed Chef is taken ladies  :lol: thought I would share a photo of the Ramsays

I think the son looks a lot like Gordon. What a beautiful family.

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Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 05, 2008, 12:09:56 AM
Our sexy foul mouthed Chef is taken ladies  :lol: thought I would share a photo of the Ramsays

I think the son looks a lot like Gordon. What a beautiful family.

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/ca_bb_fan/ram5.jpg)

Ok what is it about that man that makes him so incredibly sexy even standing there with his wife and family he looks hot!!!  What a great picture :-*
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 05, 2008, 12:15:50 AM

Ok what is it about that man that makes him so incredibly sexy even standing there with his wife and family he looks hot!!!  What a great picture :-*



I know  :-[ and love the british accent
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on April 05, 2008, 08:05:07 AM
Look at his son, he already has attitude!  :tup:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: Emmysue on April 05, 2008, 10:12:03 AM
Our sexy foul mouthed Chef is taken ladies  :lol: thought I would share a photo of the Ramsays

I think the son looks a lot like Gordon. What a beautiful family.

(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/ca_bb_fan/ram5.jpg)

Ok what is it about that man that makes him so incredibly sexy even standing there with his wife and family he looks hot!!!  What a great picture :-*


It's the same way with Patrick Dempsey...taken as all get out, but when you see a pic of him with his family, you just want to photoshop your head on his wife's body!!  :) 

I finally got to watch the premiere last night...OMG the first 15-20 minutes were AWESOME!!!  I love this show! 
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 05, 2008, 04:03:22 PM
Look at his son, he already has attitude!  :tup:


 :lol: I see the same thing TexasLady a little mini Gordon
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 05, 2008, 04:06:26 PM

It's the same way with Patrick Dempsey...taken as all get out, but when you see a pic of him with his family, you just want to photoshop your head on his wife's body!!  :) 
I finally got to watch the premiere last night...OMG the first 15-20 minutes were AWESOME!!!  I love this show! 



 :funny: omg Emmysue that is so funny.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 05, 2008, 11:17:16 PM
 
:jumpy: omg I just finished running through my house and jumping up and down on my bed

I just heard Gordon Ramsay is coming to my city for a book signing of his book Fast Food.
 
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Join us as Gordon Ramsay, star of Hell's Kitchen and Kitchen Nightmares, signs copies of his latest cookbook.
Inspired by his hit UK show, The F word, Gordon Ramsay's Fast Food shows how to get a great meal on the table in less time than it would take to have takeout delivered.

http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/Store-Events/events_main-art.html?ref=Home (http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/Store-Events/events_main-art.html?ref=Home)

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 06, 2008, 09:35:05 AM

:jumpy: omg I just finished running through my house and jumping up and down on my bed

I just heard Gordon Ramsay is coming to my city for a book signing of his book Fast Food.
 
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/ca_bb_fan/grambook.jpg)

Join us as Gordon Ramsay, star of Hell's Kitchen and Kitchen Nightmares, signs copies of his latest cookbook.
Inspired by his hit UK show, The F word, Gordon Ramsay's Fast Food shows how to get a great meal on the table in less time than it would take to have takeout delivered.

http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/Store-Events/events_main-art.html?ref=Home (http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/Store-Events/events_main-art.html?ref=Home)



OK I'm not afraid to admit I'm JEALOUS!!!  Let us know if you go and get yourself a copy.  How exciting.  :girly :dancer:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 06, 2008, 11:41:21 AM
OK I'm not afraid to admit I'm JEALOUS!!!  Let us know if you go and get yourself a copy.  How exciting.  :girly :dancer:

 :lol: I will get a signed copy believe me nothing will stop me from meeting Ramsay.

But check your own local bookstores because I'm pretty sure he is going around promoting his book so he could be headed to your city.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 06, 2008, 09:06:30 PM
OK I'm not afraid to admit I'm JEALOUS!!!  Let us know if you go and get yourself a copy.  How exciting.  :girly :dancer:

 :lol: I will get a signed copy believe me nothing will stop me from meeting Ramsay.

But check your own local bookstores because I'm pretty sure he is going around promoting his book so he could be headed to your city.

 :funny: :funny: oh my gosh ca bb fan I can just see you "power pushing" your way through the crowd  :yess: Have a great time i'll be thinking about ya!  And you better believe I'm gonna check daily for his visit to my area, and I'll be doing my "power pushing"  :funny:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 07, 2008, 04:55:27 PM
OK I'm not afraid to admit I'm JEALOUS!!!  Let us know if you go and get yourself a copy.  How exciting.  :girly :dancer:

 :lol: I will get a signed copy believe me nothing will stop me from meeting Ramsay.

But check your own local bookstores because I'm pretty sure he is going around promoting his book so he could be headed to your city.

 :funny: :funny: oh my gosh ca bb fan I can just see you "power pushing" your way through the crowd  :yess: Have a great time i'll be thinking about ya!  And you better believe I'm gonna check daily for his visit to my area, and I'll be doing my "power pushing"  :funny:

 :lol: No I won't do that, I'll just have to be there as soon as the bookstore opens but that's okay it gives me an excuse to shop for the day.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 07, 2008, 11:17:12 PM

An interesting article: Chef Gordon Ramsay's actually a 'Hell' of a guy

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His foul-mouthed outbursts send chills down the spine. But his Michelin-starred cuisine sends salivary glands into overdrive.

He's a dichotomy, that Gordon Ramsay, host of yet another season (actually the fourth) of Hell's Kitchen, the reality show in which the winner gets his or her own restaurant, which premiered Tuesday.

But then geniuses usually are.

In a recent conference call with reporters, Ramsay seemed -- dare we say it? -- pleasant. The Scottish celebuchef, 41, also seems to actually care about the quivering contestants whom he rakes over the coals each week.

Some outtakes (no worries; he kept it pretty clean):

What's it like to run a restaurant?

It's something you have to be working at each and every day; it's not a foregone conclusion that you're a success. How many restaurants do we know across the world that customers visit once and once only? The second visit is far more important.''

Secrets to success?

Focus on your customers and make that restaurant synonymous to where you are in terms of area. Make sure you stay in touch with what's keeping in the area; not what's going on in Barcelona, not what's happening in the middle of Paris.''

What do you tell people who do the show to become a star?

Getting my a-- kicked and working my n--- off the way I did in France and getting pushed around those kitchens wasn't about becoming famous. It's learning your craft and understanding what it takes to survive in this industry.''

What celebrity would you want to cook for?

I'm cooking for Nelson Mandela's birthday party in Hyde Park N.Y., this summer, which I've been invited to do. I suppose if I wanted something really fun and sexy, it'd have to be Cameron Diaz. She's tall, she's beautiful and she loves pink meat.''

Why do you use such bad language?

I don't like cursing. It's the industry language and any chef would be a hypocrite if they didn't admit to swearing in the kitchen. It's something I'm not proud of. Every time I get reminded of that by my mother.

More importantly, I have four young children. My wife is a schoolteacher. I can switch it off. I have an outside life. I'm not forecasting for my first heart attack at the age of 41 and secondly, I'm not going anywhere near a divorce.''

Source: http://www.miamiherald.com/358/story/485752.html (http://www.miamiherald.com/358/story/485752.html)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 09, 2008, 02:15:26 PM
Update: Hell's Kitchen Episode 2

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Revenge might be a dish best served cold. But Corey can expect it to be red hot.

She was blasted last week on "Hell's Kitchen" as plain, boring, blonde and bland, but this week Corey showed her stripes after the women’s team found themselves facing elimination in the wake of a dreadful dinner service.

She made no bones about the fact that she was placing two teammates on the chopping block that probably didn’t deserve to be there. She said she nominated Christina “for strategic reasons” and Jen for personal reasons, adding “I want her out.”

Chef Gordon Ramsay turned the tables by dropping the ax on someone else entirely.

The prize waiting at the end of this season, he said, was the biggest yet –- the job of executive chef at his new Los Angeles restaurant, opening this summer. There’s no time to be wasted playing games with someone he just couldn’t envision taking the reins. “There’s someone here that I just don’t believe in,” he said, and then ordered a surprised Sharon to doff her jacket and get the hell out of "Hell's Kitchen."

In retrospect, all the signs were there: Earlier in the evening he tore into the blonde who appears partial to frosty eyeshadow, sniping: “You’re not really a chef, are you? You’re just a showgirl with a feather coming out of your [bleeped by Fox censors.]” He also offered this parting shot after she’d already left the kitchen: “She clearly showed great attention to detail. Unfortunately, it wasn’t for her cooking. It was for her makeup.”

Corey, that was a risky gamble, and you lost. You may as well have painted a bull's-eye on your chef’s jacket as the rest of your teammates now know what you are capable of -– and Jen and Christina have every reason to try to undermine you every step of the way.

Source: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/04/corey-get-ready.html (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/04/corey-get-ready.html)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: careybear on April 11, 2008, 01:20:49 PM

:jumpy: omg I just finished running through my house and jumping up and down on my bed

I just heard Gordon Ramsay is coming to my city for a book signing of his book Fast Food.
 
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff102/ca_bb_fan/grambook.jpg)

Join us as Gordon Ramsay, star of Hell's Kitchen and Kitchen Nightmares, signs copies of his latest cookbook.
Inspired by his hit UK show, The F word, Gordon Ramsay's Fast Food shows how to get a great meal on the table in less time than it would take to have takeout delivered.

http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/Store-Events/events_main-art.html?ref=Home (http://www.chapters.indigo.ca/Store-Events/events_main-art.html?ref=Home)




Oh I am jealous as well, good lujck, I am checking my book stoires now
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 12, 2008, 05:09:25 AM
This week on Hell's Kitchen Episode 3

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THE COMPETITION HAS GONE TO THE BIRDS ON "HELL'S KITCHEN

The competition has gone to the birds as the contestants are woken up by the sounds of chickens running around their sleeping quarters.

The two teams head to the kitchen and race to cook some chickens.

Chef Ramsay demands absolute perfection and will count the birds only if they are perfectly plucked.

The winning team will get to dress up and fly the coop, while the losing team is sent to the fields to pick peppers.

The dinner service requires the contestants to serve the chicken family-style at the tables,

but nerves and inexperience could leave many families hungry on HELL'S KITCHEN
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 17, 2008, 12:47:58 AM
Hell's Kitchen Episode 4 Recap

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Hmm. Maybe it's time to go vegan.

Jason was sent packing for several mess-ups, including his inablity to "break down a chicken" without mangling it beyond recognition.

But Chef Gordon Ramsay should have kicked the Las Vegas sous chef out for his inabilty to follow through on his trash talk.

This is a guy who jumped on the "men" vs. "girls" bandwagon from the start by scoffing that he'd never lose to a "girl," and spouting off stuff like, "The girls surprised me. They did good" and "I hate desserts. Women make desserts." But then he turns around and crumbles when he can't remember the dessert menu and quits before the night's dinner service even starts? Come on. Man up! (That's actually what did him in. He kept saying "I'm done" and told Ramsay that he wanted to go home. Ramsay urged Jason to pull his head back into the game. Only to chop it off later.)

Speaking of chopping, I was on the edge of my seat in fear that the cleaver was going to come down on that chicken's head. Brilliant move to remind people what their food looks like before it ends up on their plate. That reminded me of a bumper sticker that says something like "I don't eat anything with a face." And that reminded me of another cheeky bumper sticker that says something like "If we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?" But I digress.

Goodbye Jason. I could never shake the feeling that you were playing to the camera the whole time you were slamming the women for, well, being women.

You do, however, get extra credit for perfect delivery of this parting shot: "I'm a man. I sure as hell aren't going to cry about it. I am, however, going to go get drunk."

Looking forward to next week: Will the men get tripped up once again by the menu? (Guys. Really. How hard can it be to memorize a bunch of dishes. Practice. Quiz each other!!!) Will the women's team finally implode in the wake of Corey's maneuvering? Will Chef Ramsay recover from his self-imposed head-pounding?

And finally -- um, what happened to all those chickens?

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Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 17, 2008, 10:28:59 AM
 ca bb fan :ty4posting :yourock:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 17, 2008, 07:19:05 PM
One of the funny things about the last episode is when they where cutting the chicken in 8 parts I kept thinking - these people are chef's and only a few of them knew how to cut up a simple chicken in 8 parts.  Gee maybe I should be a chef and not just a domestic goddess????  I wanted to help them cut those darn chickens up it was frustrating.   :funny:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: reneny on April 17, 2008, 11:07:09 PM
If you have an iPod, Gordon has some of his recipes from the new book on podcasts for free at iTunes.

BTW, I saw him cut up chicken legs just like Jen cut hers up in the Lemon Sticky Chicken podcast and he marked her down! So I thought that was a little funny...

 :lol:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 18, 2008, 01:58:13 PM
If you have an iPod, Gordon has some of his recipes from the new book on podcasts for free at iTunes.

BTW, I saw him cut up chicken legs just like Jen cut hers up in the Lemon Sticky Chicken podcast and he marked her down! So I thought that was a little funny...
 :lol:

 :waves: Hello reneny and a big  :welcome3: to you.

That is great news, I had no idea.

As a huge Ramsay fan I will definitely go looking for that.

Thanks for posting  :hugs:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 18, 2008, 05:01:59 PM
One of the funny things about the last episode is when they where cutting the chicken in 8 parts I kept thinking - these people are chef's and only a few of them knew how to cut up a simple chicken in 8 parts.  Gee maybe I should be a chef and not just a domestic goddess????  I wanted to help them cut those darn chickens up it was frustrating.   :funny:


 :funny: Your so funny rosesrred

and your absolutely right it's like they never saw a chicken before and with a precision knife how can you go wrong
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 18, 2008, 05:15:37 PM
an intersting article on Ramsay's personal life:

Gordon Ramsay loves the simple life

Source: http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/celebrity/article3771418.ece (http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/celebrity/article3771418.ece)

It's no accident that Gordon Ramsay's latest cookbook, Healthy Appetite, serialised in The Times from next Saturday, kicks off with porridge. It's a reminder of his tough Glaswegian roots, and his father's view that only poofs add sugar rather than salt.

Ramsay learnt about healthy living the hard way - from his father, who died of a heart attack at 53; while his mother, who cooked healthily but smoked heavily, had a quadruple bypass two years ago. “I get so frustrated today when everyone blames children for eating badly,” he says. “It's not kids; it's parents. I think they should be fined for letting their children get out of control because it's our discipline, our standards that they follow.”

Intriguingly, Ramsay, 41, who is as famous for bad language as for his nine Michelin stars, doesn't emphasise this point by swearing. Indeed, he uses only a smattering of F-words in our two-hour conversation, which ranges from his battle with his weight and his old-fashioned views on parenting, to addiction - his brother's to heroin and his own to perfection - and the religious faith, which has seen him through his struggle with infertility and the premature birth of his twins, now aged 8.

Ramsay's language gets a tad fruity only when he has a pop at Delia Smith. One look at How to Cheat at Cooking was enough for him: “I was absolutely horrified. I'm embarrassed for her. I don't expect cooking from tins and frozen food from one of the nation's most precious individuals, who gave so much hope and security to domestic cooks. I'm bitterly disappointed, but more importantly, concerned that, as a nation we're going backwards and people will continue being lazy.”

He's not the martinet of his TV shows

It could be that Ramsay's language is tempered because we are talking in his front room in Wandsworth, South London, with giant furcovered beanbags and a cosy domestic hum in the background. Words fly out of his mouth in a breathtaking stream of consciousness, but there is no hint of the martinet who makes mincemeat of provincial chefs in the Channel 4 show Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares.

When Ramsay's three daughters - Megan, 9, Holly, 8, and Matilda, 6 - arrive home from school, his face gets even squidgier than normal. Like a fond Victorian father he summons his brood in to hear their news before dismissing them to the care of his serene wife Tana, who happily gave up nursery teaching to look after them. The couple set great store by good manners, and it shows, even if Jack, Holly's twin, has started fining his dad when he isn't there to watch him play football.

One can only conclude that Ramsay is a bit of a Jekyll and Hyde. Or could it be that one of his performances - the irascible monster on TV or the charmer in our interview - is an act? If anything, it's surely the former: people who work with him testify to his kindness and consideration, and he inspires enduring loyalty. Of course, this ability to inspire loyalty is a plus for him: talented protégés, such as Angela Hartnett, who is opening Murano, an Italian-style restaurant in London this summer, run restaurants for him, under his brand, instead of setting up on their own as competititors. You might say that personal loyalty keeps the constantly expanding Ramsay empire thriving. He has just opened restaurants in Prague, Versailles and Heathrow Terminal 5, to be followed later this year by Los Angeles and Amsterdam, and he has added three pubs to his seven London establishments.

When it comes to healthy food at home, Ramsay admits to disguising veg and bribing his children. He agonises about seasoning, which is one of his obsessions. “I've got to protect the children's palates; I can't expose them to the amount of salt which with my palate I find perfection.” He adds: “At home we keep food exciting but plain. I had a humble upbringing and we didn't have a choice about food. What fascinates me today is that some of the parents that I meet are tailor-making dishes for each child in the family, providing an à la carte menu. They are being held to ransom.”

Ramsay's own childhood, with his younger brother, two sisters, heavy-drinking father and long-suffering mother, was spent moving from council estate to council estate in England after the family left Glasgow when he was still in a pushchair. They finally settled in Stratford-upon-Avon, where his mother cooked in the tea rooms and he grew up on steak and kidney pud and fish and chips. So he makes huge efforts to make sure that his own children are not “little snobs” about food or anything else, even if that means allowing his mum to take them to Butlins every August when he and Tana would really rather go to France. At weekends, the dishwasher is unplugged so the children get used to washing up.

Trying to keep life really normal

“We fight the lifestyle we've worked our arses off to create, and we do everything we can to keep life really normal,” he says. “When I watch Jack playing football on Saturdays I am horrified by the parents who are screaming at the coach saying they're not happy with the training and their son should be captain. The last argument Tana and I had was when Megan didn't get into the netball team. I said it was good news because she needs to know what it feels like to be rejected because it will make her more determined. Now she's in the B team.”

At the same time, Ramsay relishes the lifestyle that his estimated £60 million fortune brings. Last year he flew his mother to Mykonos in a private jet for a surprise 60th birthday. She is the remaining link with his younger brother Ronnie, a former heroin addict who recently left rehab in the US. Ramsay supported him financially for years, but stopped when Ronnie, 40, was arrested in Bali a year ago.

“I had to turn my back on him, otherwise I would have been bailing him out knowing that I was part of what got him in there. Of course, I'm dying to talk to him, but I can't because I could trigger another relapse; I'm scared to get close because I would end up spoiling things again. A distance needs to be created before we can resurrect a relationship. But it hurts me and I know deep down inside it must hurt him.”

Ronnie's heroin addiction is mirrored in Ramsay's much happier addiction to perfection - which he has never seen as a problem - and his relentless need to keep raising the bar. He is one of only three chefs in the UK with a three Michelin-star restaurant, but wants to match that in New York (where he has already got two within ten months of opening) and Paris, where his new restaurant opened last month.

He traces his phenomenal drive back to the failure of his footballing career with Glasgow Rangers at 18 because of injuries. He fell into catering by sheer accident; it was his mother's idea. “Getting into food was a way of hiding the hurt and the insecurity of not making it as a footballer. Even when I opened Aubergine at the age of 26, I was still running away from the hurt of football. But I was also getting better at something I was enjoying and I had realised early on that I wanted to be one of the best.”

There have been other tough times. When Tana failed to get pregnant after trying for two years, they had tests which revealed that Ramsay has a low sperm count, apparently owing to years near a hot stove, while Tana has polycystic ovary syndrome. “It was hard emotionally. We were both starting to lose self-esteem and at one stage we contemplated adoption. But because we both had a problem it was easier to work at together; we were both at an all-time low in terms of how inadequate we felt. When Tana finally got pregnant on the third attempt at IVF it was brilliant, and then soon after we had the twins, also through IVF. The big surprise was Tilly, because we had just let things get back to normal.”

“I want the kids to know there is a God”

The twins' birth, six weeks prematurely, was also traumatic. The babies went into intensive care and Jack was found to have a small hole in his heart, which should heal in time. At times like this Ramsay prays. He went to a Church of England school and about six times a year the family go to the church in Chelsea where he and Tana married in 1996. “I want the kids to understand that there is a God and that more times than not we need to turn to Him for help. I've got no reason to stop being religious because so far it's worked.”

After his superfit footballing years, Ramsay's appetite for exercise waned until he was 31, when a friend ordered him on to the scales after a game of squash. He was nearly 18st and had a “horrendous stomach”. Since then he has taken a characteristically macho approach: he boxes in his basement gym, runs to work and he trained for last week's London Marathon in a weighted jacket (he did it in 3hr 45min). And these days he never leaves home without his skipping rope since the boxer Ricky Hatton showed him a brilliant technique (three-minute rounds: one minute fast; one minute criss-crossing his arms; one minute on one leg).

He's down to 15st, looks lean for 6ft 2in, and has a super-healthy heart rate and cholesterol levels. He says endurance exercise helps him to de-stress.And he is keen to set a good example to his children; he hopes they will do part of the London to Brighton bike ride with him in June. “We don't go through this whole PlayStation bullsh** about idle kids,” he says. “Active bodies have active minds. I don't want them going off into cyberspace when they've got to focus on swimming, riding bikes and playing the violin.”

He tries to be a different kind of dad from his father. It helps that his father-in-law, Chris Hutcheson, who is also his business partner, is “the perfect role model and a phenomenal father figure”. He says: “I don't want to be in the position with Jack that I was with my father where, if things went pear-shaped, he would say ‘I told you so!' My father taught me a lot; everything he did I've done the opposite.”
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 18, 2008, 09:55:55 PM
an interesting article about HK's contestant Bobby Anderson

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Source: http://www.niagara-gazette.com/local/local_story_109213536.html (http://www.niagara-gazette.com/local/local_story_109213536.html)

As a teenager, Bobby Anderson admits he wandered the streets of Niagara Falls, unfocused and unsure about what he was going to do with the rest of his life.

These days, the 37-year-old Falls native is living the dream in a place called Hell’s Kitchen, serving as proof that hard work, commitment and a little bit of good timing can really pay off.

“I wanted to show young people from Niagara Falls that it’s possible and that they can make it and become something,” he said. “I look at it like this is my city. This is my hometown. I can’t let them down.”

Anderson, a graduate of Niagara Falls High School who holds a degree in the culinary arts from Niagara County Community College, finds himself in the running for a shot at becoming the next chosen one on the Fox’s reality series, “Hell’s Kitchen.” The program, perhaps best known for the antics of its irascible host, top chef Gordon Ramsey, offers aspiring chefs the chance to prove their worth in the kitchen over a 13-week period. The winner — more like the survivor once Ramsey gets through with them — earns a $250,000 prize and the chance to become senior chef at Ramsey’s new restaurant, Gordon Ramsey at the London West Hollywood.

Anderson landed a spot on the program by pure happenstance. During a visit to New York City, he stumbled upon a casting line for the program and checked in as aspiring contestant No. 1,072. Unable to see the casting call through to the end, Anderson decided to get out of line and head home. As fate would have it, he was approached by a show producer who decided to give him an interview on the spot. And now he appears weekly on a program that registered 22 million viewers during its most recent broadcast Tuesday.

“I think what it was was just me being me,” Anderson said. “I stayed positive and stayed real. They didn’t want phony people. They could see right through the phoniness.”

As for Ramsey himself, Anderson said the master of Hell’s Kitchen is more go than show, both on and off the set. Describing Ramsey as “half-man, half-amazing,” he said he’s learned a lot from Ramsey about not only being a good chef, but a good businessman and person as well.

“He’s tough,” Anderson said. “That’s what he does. He strips you down. If he likes you, he builds you back up. What you see is the real deal. He’s no fake. He’s no television chef. He’s no movie star. He is just a chef.”

Before moving on to stardom in Los Angeles, Anderson cut his chops at a number of local hotels and restaurants. He credits his former mentor, Calvin Long from the Comfort Inn in Niagara Falls, for not only giving him his first break in the kitchen, but for showing him how to do the job the right way without cutting corners.

“He taught me discipline,” Anderson said. “He taught me how to be a professional.”

The 72-year-old Long who has been head chef at the Comfort Inn for the past 19 years, said Anderson came to work for him at age 16, with a healthy interest in food.

“He liked to talk about food and what he could do with it and what he wanted to do,” Long said. “I thought he was going to do quite well. I just thought he was a really talented young man who could go far in this business.”

With a little training, that is. While admitting his teaching style is far more reserved than Ramsey’s, Long said he did his best to show Anderson not only how to cook proper meals, but also how to respect the business side of running a kitchen.

“I was very tough on him,” Long admits. “When I find a person that has it in him to do better, then I get a little strict with them. I tried to teach him that you’ve got to work like you own the restaurant and that way you care more.”

Long said he’s proud of the way Anderson’s work has paid off and said he thinks his former pupil’s skills in improving dishes by adding his own unique touches give him an excellent chance of surviving Ramsey’s form of hell.

“He’s got a lot of potential in every aspect of the job,” Long said.

Today, Anderson works as a prepared foods manager for Wegman’s. He said his recent stint in television has opened up several avenues, including a possible book deal and opportunities to work in several restaurants across the country.

Under the terms of his deal with Fox, Anderson is unable to discuss the show’s outcome. So far, he has outlasted three contestants and remains in the running.

Anderson said his plan — win or lose — is to stay connected to his hometown and work with young people in Niagara Falls who may be interested in becoming culinary artists themselves.

“I’m from the streets out there and I made it,” he said. “I want to be a positive role model for other people in Niagara Falls.”
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 18, 2008, 10:28:43 PM
If you have an iPod, Gordon has some of his recipes from the new book on podcasts for free at iTunes.

BTW, I saw him cut up chicken legs just like Jen cut hers up in the Lemon Sticky Chicken podcast and he marked her down! So I thought that was a little funny...

 :lol:

Thanks reneny have an itouch so i'll check it out.  Do you think I can get it off itunes on the computer?  I'll try that.  Thanks again and a real big WELCOME (http://dl5.glitter-graphics.net/pub/467/467375xrjs5pyp0z.gif) (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on April 19, 2008, 11:21:45 AM
If you have an iPod, Gordon has some of his recipes from the new book on podcasts for free at iTunes.

BTW, I saw him cut up chicken legs just like Jen cut hers up in the Lemon Sticky Chicken podcast and he marked her down! So I thought that was a little funny...

 :lol:

LOL, that is funny. We have a chef show on the local Austin access channel and the first show was a duel of two top chefs cutting chicken into 8 pieces, each one doing it slightly different but ending with the 8 pieces. Both had a reason for cutting it their way. I'm thinking perhaps they all learned to cut the chicken but not exactly the same as Ramsey did. However they should have been able to cut cleanly not butcher the poor bird! 

Ramsey, do as I say not as I do??   :lol:

Welcome to RFF Reneny!

:welcome: :ty4posting :welcome:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 19, 2008, 11:50:13 PM
THIS WEEK ON HELL'S KITCHEN  (9:02-10:00 PM ET/PT) CC

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IT'S ALL ABOUT FAMILY ON HELL'S KITCHEN

It's family night on HELL'S KITCHEN and the red and blue teams hit the kitchen to make fresh pasta for that night's dinner service.

The team that produces the most pasta is rewarded with a fun day at the Santa Monica Pier.

During dinner service there is an accident in the kitchen that sends one contestant to the hospital.

Will the team make it without the fallen comrade or will they be forced to shut the doors on HELL'S KITCHEN.


Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 21, 2008, 04:52:37 AM
An interesting article I read and thought I would share:

WHEN WE SPOKE to Pine Hill's Matt Sigel after his signature dish of diver scallops and white chocolate made Fox's "Hell's Kitchen" host puke, Sigel predicted that despite Gordon Ramsay's regurgitation, other chefs would bite on his dish.
Food Network host Robert Irvine cooked diver scallops with white chocolate (Hershey's to be exact) during a "Dinner Impossible" episode that aired Wednesday.

Sigel says that Irvine, for whom he used to work at Atlantic City's Caesars, clearly copied the dish from him, but he's not mad.

Meanwhile, Sigel, who's survived four episodes so far on the already-taped Fox reality show, just gave his two-weeks' notice at the Warwick Radisson Plaza and Tavern 17, where he has been a bread and pastry chef. In early May he'll start cooking at Pizzicato (500 Rt. 73 S) in Marlton.

Source: http://www.philly.com/dailynews/features/20080421_Dan_Gross__Despite__Hell_s_Kitchen__flop__Sigel_says_scallop_dish_has_legs.html (http://www.philly.com/dailynews/features/20080421_Dan_Gross__Despite__Hell_s_Kitchen__flop__Sigel_says_scallop_dish_has_legs.html)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on April 21, 2008, 07:03:35 AM
From what I have seen on the show, Matt should keep his day job.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 21, 2008, 04:36:19 PM
From what I have seen on the show, Matt should keep his day job.

 :lol: Well you know what kills me is that this is coming from the FRAUD Robert Irvine who is coincidently being replaced by Michael Symon the newest Iron Chef.

If you were not aware that Robert has made a false resume I will attach the 2 articles for your reading pleasure.


Article that Robert made a false resume:
http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/dinner-impossible-chef-robert-irvine-accused-of-cooking-up-his-past-6576.php (http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/dinner-impossible-chef-robert-irvine-accused-of-cooking-up-his-past-6576.php)


Article that Michael is replacing Robert:
http://www.charlotte.com/nation/story/590487.html (http://www.charlotte.com/nation/story/590487.html)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 21, 2008, 08:00:39 PM
From what I have seen on the show, Matt should keep his day job.

 :lol: Well you know what kills me is that this is coming from the FRAUD Robert Irvine who is coincidently being replaced by Michael Symon the newest Iron Chef.

If you were not aware that Robert has made a false resume I will attach the 2 articles for your reading pleasure.


Article that Robert made a false resume:
http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/dinner-impossible-chef-robert-irvine-accused-of-cooking-up-his-past-6576.php (http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/dinner-impossible-chef-robert-irvine-accused-of-cooking-up-his-past-6576.php)


Article that Michael is replacing Robert:
http://www.charlotte.com/nation/story/590487.html (http://www.charlotte.com/nation/story/590487.html)


Thanks for the articles I love the food network and was wondering what was going to happen with Dinner Impossible!
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 21, 2008, 10:49:52 PM

Thanks for the articles I love the food network and was wondering what was going to happen with Dinner Impossible!


 :lol: rosesrred you are a faithfull Food Network follower, I'm glad your keeping up  :tup:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: careybear on April 22, 2008, 12:22:48 PM
I just got one of his books, and I am already loving it
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 22, 2008, 04:08:46 PM

I just got one of his books, and I am already loving it



Oh cool careybear  :wohoo:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on April 22, 2008, 10:34:10 PM
I just saw something extraodinary. It was a Cook's Tour show filmed in 2000 or 2001 in England with Anthony Bourdain as host. He visited a few different places around London, stopping last at the Gordon Ramsay Restaurant(that is its real name). He refers to Gordon as the "greatest chef in England" in a 5 minute segment filmed there in which Ramsay prepared his most special dishes for Anthony.

For those of you wanting to see this and on the Food Channel is rerunning this at 130am tonight and again next Tuesday April 29 at 130pm You also get to see a 6 to 7 years younger Anthony Bourdain in the 35 epsiodes of A Cook's Tour. This clearly was the genesis of the two Anthony Bourdain series on the Travel Channel. A 4 episode special(not involving the Endland one) will run Saturday night from 9pm to 11pm and repeat from minight to 2am.



Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 23, 2008, 02:34:32 PM
My DVR didn't get the 1st half hour of Hell's Kitchen I'm so darn sad!  :'(
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on April 23, 2008, 05:10:45 PM
roserred, I know from personal experience that FOX puts the episodes up on the website sometime the following day(that would be today). take a look at http://www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=hellskitchen. It's there.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 23, 2008, 06:04:43 PM
roserred, I know from personal experience that FOX puts the episodes up on the website sometime the following day(that would be today). take a look at http://www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=hellskitchen. It's there.

Aw thanks apskip I really appreciate it  :roses:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 24, 2008, 07:06:32 PM
I just saw something extraodinary. It was a Cook's Tour show filmed in 2000 or 2001 in England with Anthony Bourdain as host. He visited a few different places around London, stopping last at the Gordon Ramsay Restaurant(that is its real name). He refers to Gordon as the "greatest chef in England" in a 5 minute segment filmed there in which Ramsay prepared his most special dishes for Anthony.

For those of you wanting to see this and on the Food Channel is rerunning this at 130am tonight and again next Tuesday April 29 at 130pm You also get to see a 6 to 7 years younger Anthony Bourdain in the 35 epsiodes of A Cook's Tour. This clearly was the genesis of the two Anthony Bourdain series on the Travel Channel. A 4 episode special(not involving the Endland one) will run Saturday night from 9pm to 11pm and repeat from minight to 2am.



 :'( okay it's my CA thing again. I checked my schedule up to 2 weeks in advance  (:;)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 24, 2008, 07:29:16 PM
So Craig got the boot in this weeks episode. 

Where did he get off talking like that and ignoring Ramsay. He needed to go.

I would have included Matt for that raw chicken or least had him eat it

and become violently ill if he didn't understand that serving that was just stupid.

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Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 24, 2008, 08:17:18 PM
So Craig got the boot in this weeks episode. 

Where did he get off talking like that and ignoring Ramsay. He needed to go.

I would have included Matt for that raw chicken or least had him eat it

and become violently ill if he didn't understand that serving that was just stupid.

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I know ca bb fan raw chicken that's totally unbelieveable and to kids taboot!  Can he even spell
Salmonella???
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 24, 2008, 09:35:50 PM
So Craig got the boot in this weeks episode. 

Where did he get off talking like that and ignoring Ramsay. He needed to go.

I would have included Matt for that raw chicken or least had him eat it

and become violently ill if he didn't understand that serving that was just stupid.

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I know ca bb fan raw chicken that's totally unbelieveable and to kids taboot!  Can he even spell
Salmonella???



 :groan: Can you imagine if he had his way that half the restaurant would have been in emerg.

On a side note rosesrred Scott is my favorite Sous Chef  :flirt:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 24, 2008, 11:05:48 PM
Yes, Scott seems like a Gordon that's why you like him  :-*  Anyway the chefs look like chickens (no pun intended) running around without their heads  :lol: Poor Gordon he has some work on his hands.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 25, 2008, 04:05:51 AM
Yes, Scott seems like a Gordon that's why you like him  :-*  Anyway the chefs look like chickens (no pun intended) running around without their heads  :lol: Poor Gordon he has some work on his hands.

 :funny: Na he hosts all those Food Network Challenges

I can't wait for next weeks episode :jumpy:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 25, 2008, 08:08:44 AM
Yes, Scott seems like a Gordon that's why you like him  :-*  Anyway the chefs look like chickens (no pun intended) running around without their heads  :lol: Poor Gordon he has some work on his hands.

 :funny: Na he hosts all those Food Network Challenges

I can't wait for next weeks episode :jumpy:


Oh I know who you mean I thought that was the name of the sous chef for the guys  ???
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 25, 2008, 08:45:26 AM

Oh I know who you mean I thought that was the name of the sous chef for the guys  ???


 :lol: sorry I'm confusing you.

Yes Scott Leibfried the Sous Chef for the guys is the same person hosting Food Network Challenge.

He is a Chef also.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on April 25, 2008, 12:06:00 PM
ca bb fan, I understand why you say that Scott is your favorite Sous Chef. However, Gloria, the Red team SousChef has been a total cipher. She gets no air time and has had no exposure to the TV audience. How would you know anything about her and be able to make an informed decision?
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 25, 2008, 01:05:46 PM
ca bb fan, I understand why you say that Scott is your favorite Sous Chef. However, Gloria, the Red team SousChef has been a total cipher. She gets no air time and has had no exposure to the TV audience. How would you know anything about her and be able to make an informed decision?


 :lol:  apskip your comment is irrelevant.

I was not comparing the two Sous Chefs as I did not mention Gloria.

I never tried to make a decision between them.

I only mentioned Scott and it had nothing to do with who I like better between them.

Their qualifications have nothing to do with their air time.

I just felt like talking about Scott who happened to be in the picture above.

But if your interested in my thoughts on Gloria I am perfectly willing to discuss this further.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 26, 2008, 03:18:50 AM
This coming week on Hell's Kitchen Episode 5:

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A SLICE OF CHAOS ON HELL'S KITCHEN:

The aspiring chefs learn the value of a culinary classic when they are challenged to turn the basic into brilliant by creating a gourmet pizza to present to Chef Ramsay.

The winning team is whisked away by helicopter to enjoy a gourmet meal in seaside Santa Barbara.

The losing team is forced to take pizza orders and deliver the pizzas during dinner service!

This chaotic night requires all hands on deck, but when one contestant has a serious accident and is rushed to the hospital; will the teams be able to survive?
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on April 26, 2008, 07:29:39 AM
Two episodes in a row there is a serious accident when somebody is rushed to the hospital? Cheftestants are dropping like flies!
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on April 26, 2008, 08:02:20 AM
Two episodes in a row there is a serious accident when somebody is rushed to the hospital? Cheftestants are dropping like flies!

Sheese! I'm beginning to think this season is not one of HK's best by any means. Only a few stand out and the rest seem pathetic as a candidate to actually be worthy to win this.

Petrozza, Louross, Rosann, Bobby, Ben and Jen are the few that I'm watching to see how they do.

Anyone have a standout favorite?


Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 26, 2008, 10:58:17 PM
Two episodes in a row there is a serious accident when somebody is rushed to the hospital? Cheftestants are dropping like flies!

Sheese! I'm beginning to think this season is not one of HK's best by any means. Only a few stand out and the rest seem pathetic as a candidate to actually be worthy to win this.

Petrozza, Louross, Rosann, Bobby, Ben and Jen are the few that I'm watching to see how they do.

Anyone have a standout favorite?




I'm thinking Louross seems to know a thing or two about the kitchen,  Bobby has been off and on,  Jennifer as much as I don't want to say this seems to have a control of the kitchen and those are my only three standouts.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 28, 2008, 12:05:18 AM
 :lol: omg I met Gordon Ramsay today for his book signing.

I left Saturday and arrrived at midnight and saw Ramsay at 3:00 pm today. 

 :jumpy: Yes I spent 15 hours waiting to meet him.

I had a blast I met some great people and we had all stayed up all night for the event. Sooooo worth it :wohoo:

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Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 28, 2008, 12:10:36 AM
A youtube video of Gordon Ramsay at the book signing:

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 28, 2008, 12:22:53 AM
Article: Gordon Ramsay Talks To The Press

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Gordon Ramsay, the British chef known for his expletives and outbursts on his various television shows, says he is negotiating to open a restaurant in Toronto or Vancouver.

During an interview Sunday at an appearance promoting his cookbook "Gordon Ramsay's Fast Food," he said that "hopefully before I fly off Wednesday, I will get a chance to look at the property in Toronto, but it's not in a hotel."

Ramsay, 41, has opened a number of restaurants, many of which are in hotels around the world including Tokyo, New York, Ireland, Dubai and Paris. He has received nine Michelin stars for his culinary creations in three of the London restaurants.

The book signing in Burlington, a bedroom community west of Toronto, drew about 300 fans, including about 80 who arrived Saturday at noon outside the Indigo Bookstore to get in line to catch a glimpse of their favourite chef.

Punctual as befits his perfectionist personality, the six-foot-two Ramsay turned up dressed casually in blue jeans, a T-shirt and size 15 sneakers to meet a group of student chefs who had prepared appetizers for their idol.

"When you finish your training, contact me and I may be able to get you a job," he said to the four students.

Then for the reporter he launched into a mini-tirade about how parents who allow their children to become obese should be fined accordingly.

"It is going to be a matter of time before it is passed by governments where parents will be held responsible for overweight children," Ramsay said. "Parents must stop giving in to their children and stop feeding them crap."

He praised his colleague Jamie Oliver for trying to change what British children were being served for their school lunches.

"Jamie was brilliant by making every parent feel guilty about what their children are eating at school," he said.

On the subject of eating imported produce rather than consuming local, Ramsay said he "gets frustrated when I see chefs use asparagus 12 months a year."

"My motto is if it isn't in season, don't cook it."

He said one of his chefs made a strawberry cheesecake for last Valentine's dinner and "I flipped my lid and asked where they came from. I was told Lebanon and I was livid."

Ramsay admitted he is a perfectionist and "I want it right."

"So whether you are spending $25 a plate or $50 a plate you will get a meal that is absolutely perfect."

Infamous for his four-letter words when appearing on "Hell's Kitchen," and "Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares" on Food Network Canada, a new show "The F Word" will have its premiere this fall.

"My swearing is something I must cut back on," he said, "but it's an industry language."

"If you were at a hockey match and were eavesdropping on the conversations by the players on the ice you would be horrified."

He doubts that people watch his shows because he uses colourful language.

"Unfortunately, however, when you film for 10 hours you get edited to 45 minutes and it's constant f, f, f."

Source: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080427/entertainment/food_gordon_ramsay (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080427/entertainment/food_gordon_ramsay)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on April 28, 2008, 07:40:28 AM
ca bb fan, fabulous footage with the video that you took and YOU WERE THERE! The one thing I was most impressed by was Ramsay's statement that he is is ambidextrous and can cook with both hands and write with both hands. Now I look forward to seeing some errant chef's product getting thrown into the wall with his left hand. Ramsay clearly has great charisma. I bet he would do just as well if he cleaned up his act and eliminated all the bad language. His focus on local produce is an excellent one. Bringing fruit in from the Southern Hemisphere in the winter is ridiculous and he has highlighted that type of menu/buying strategy as suboptimal. All in all, a lot of learning in a short period of time.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 28, 2008, 09:36:07 AM
 :jumpy: :yess: OMG ca bb fan you must be on cloud nine how exciting that you got to be part of all that excitement.  The pictures of the crowd and the video gave me goosebumps I kinda felt I was there with you.  And even with no luggage the chef looked incredibly HOT same in person?  You are so darn lucky.  Good for you girl! :jumpy:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 28, 2008, 02:52:00 PM
:jumpy: :yess: OMG ca bb fan you must be on cloud nine how exciting that you got to be part of all that excitement.  The pictures of the crowd and the video gave me goosebumps I kinda felt I was there with you.  And even with no luggage the chef looked incredibly HOT same in person?  You are so darn lucky.  Good for you girl! :jumpy:

 :lol: Yes rosesrred the same in person just gorgeous sexy hot all of those. He is physically fit. :faint: He has a six pack that he showed us.
The entire event was spectacular. They had chefs serving us hors d'oeuvres that were great. As soon as he spoke to me in his British accent I thought omg it's exactly the same as on tv.

Ramsay is still in Toronto has the news and media are showing him non stop. They all keep asking him what does he think about us spending the night in order to meet him. He is amazed we did that he said he is only a chef. Like I said he's still here talking with news and media all day as he is still doing another book signing in Toronto today. I went to the Burlington location yesterday. So in the youtube video Ramsay kept mentioning Toronto instead of Burlington but nobody was about to correct him, just thankfull we meet him.

Ramsay is looking at property today to open another restaurant his 19th in Toronto  :jumpy: I hope he does.

News for you guys Gordon Ramsay is scheduled for an appearance on Regis and Kelly and Good Morning America on April 30th and he will be on Conan O'Brien on May 1st.

So you can look for him and watch him on these shows.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 28, 2008, 02:59:59 PM
ca bb fan, fabulous footage with the video that you took and YOU WERE THERE! The one thing I was most impressed by was Ramsay's statement that he is is ambidextrous and can cook with both hands and write with both hands. Now I look forward to seeing some errant chef's product getting thrown into the wall with his left hand. Ramsay clearly has great charisma. I bet he would do just as well if he cleaned up his act and eliminated all the bad language. His focus on local produce is an excellent one. Bringing fruit in from the Southern Hemisphere in the winter is ridiculous and he has highlighted that type of menu/buying stragey as suboptimal. All in all, a lot of learning in a short period of time.

 :lol: thanks apskip but I didn't record that and have it posted on youtube. But many of the fans I met and spent the night with told me that they would post their video on youtube so I thought I would share that with you.

In his many interviews Ramsay stated that he wants to stop the bad language including in all his restaurants that he wants to include his employees as well. So that is great he doesn't want to be only known as the foul mouthed chef.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 28, 2008, 03:59:33 PM
I think it must get real irratating to him that everyone is really focusing on his  (:;) language.  It really doesn't bother me that much but boy every interview seems to have it in there. 
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: RudyRules on April 29, 2008, 02:35:39 AM
Wow, ca bb fan!  You got to be there for the book signing!  Exciting!
:jumpy:  I'm so happy you got to go! :hugs:   
:ty3: for sharing!
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on April 29, 2008, 10:45:23 AM
What an opportunity Ca, to actually meet him in person! Thanks for telling us about it, good job on the photos, I feel like I was there!  :tup:

(Did I mention I'm jealous?) :lol:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 29, 2008, 04:49:48 PM

 :hugs: Thanks RudyRules and TexasLady that's so kind for you to say.


Don't forget you set your DVR's to catch Ramsay on Good Morning America and Regis and Kelly tomorrow as well as tonights episode of Hell's Kitchen  :wohoo:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on April 29, 2008, 04:57:44 PM

 :hugs: Thanks RudyRules and TexasLady that's so kind for you to say.


Don't forget you set your DVR's to catch Ramsay on Good Morning America and Regis and Kelly tomorrow as well as tonights episode of Hell's Kitchen  :wohoo:

Thanks for the heads up! I was thinking Hell's Kitchen was on tomorrow night. First chance to really watch without having to worry about that OTHER program.  ;)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 30, 2008, 09:28:45 PM

Don't forget you set your DVR's to catch Ramsay on Good Morning America and Regis and Kelly tomorrow as well as tonights episode of Hell's Kitchen  :wohoo:

Thanks for the heads up! I was thinking Hell's Kitchen was on tomorrow night. First chance to really watch without having to worry about that OTHER program.  ;)

 :lol: I hear ya TexasLady  :groan: I forgot to record GMA and Regis and Kelly  :'( did anyone else catch it.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 30, 2008, 09:38:43 PM
Episode 5 Ramsay didn't let anyone go because Vanessa wanted to quit.

The rest of the chefs are lucky on that one and better smarten up and get with it.

Louross was funny when he put the towel over his head and the smile he had

when he got away with the meat that Patrozza helped him with.

It seems not everyone is liking Matt.

I'm still not over that raw chicken so that would have been fine with me.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on April 30, 2008, 09:59:13 PM
Episode 5 Ramsay didn't let anyone go because Vanessa wanted to quit.

The rest of the chefs are lucky on that one and better smarten up and get with it.

Louross was funny when he put the towel over his head and the smile he had

when he got away with the meat that Patrozza helped him with.

It seems not everyone is liking Matt.

I'm still not over that raw chicken so that would have been fine with me.


ca bb fan you crack me up  :funny: your comment on still not being over the raw chicken  :funny:  I just talked about it yesterday to my hubby he missed last weeks episode.  He hates Matt's comments and facial expressions.   :lol:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on April 30, 2008, 10:16:15 PM
Episode 5 Ramsay didn't let anyone go because Vanessa wanted to quit.
The rest of the chefs are lucky on that one and better smarten up and get with it.
Louross was funny when he put the towel over his head and the smile he had
when he got away with the meat that Patrozza helped him with.
It seems not everyone is liking Matt.
I'm still not over that raw chicken so that would have been fine with me.

ca bb fan you crack me up  :funny: your comment on still not being over the raw chicken  :funny:  I just talked about it yesterday to my hubby he missed last weeks episode.  He hates Matt's comments and facial expressions.   :lol:


 :ascared OMG now your cracking me up or your husband is  :lol:

I didn't want to go there but  :funny: geez  :funny:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 03, 2008, 09:40:41 AM
an interesting article on Ramsay:

Source: http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/thestew/2008/05/hot-chef-news-.html (http://leisureblogs.chicagotribune.com/thestew/2008/05/hot-chef-news-.html)

Gordon Ramsay, the U.K. chef and demanding star of TV's Hell's Kitchen, is opening a restaurant in Chicago, so says a report from the Press Association—which is self-described on the Web site pressassociation.co.uk as “the national news agency of the UK and Ireland, covering all the news that matters 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. Since 1868, we have been setting the UK news agenda with fast, fair and accurate reporting.”

Ramsay spoke and held a signing for his new cookbook “Gordon Ramsay's Fast Food” at Macy’s Wednesday, attended by more than 300 fans, and apparently told them, and we re-quote from the Press group: “Chicago is at the forefront of the culinary world right now and I want a piece of that action. . . . We're looking at a property in the city with a prospect of opening sometime in summer 2009."

We arrived late to the signing, so we can’t deny it—nor does it sound farfetched. But the Press Association also referred to Chicago as the “Illinois state capital.”  Also: we spent a half hour interviewing Ramsay in Macy’s green room, and he didn’t mention it. So we’re going to await confirmation from Ramsay’s publicist, or Ramsay himself, whichever comes first. Of course, maybe the accurate Press Association was at an event at the OTHER capital of Illinois.

Meanwhile in other chef news, there was a report that Todd English, the Boston-based chef and TV personality, who has just opened a couple airport eateries, also had a project "under development" in Chicago. A couple calls later, Todd's people were serving up big helpings of "we have no information now" while Karen Pride, the Chicago Department of Aviation's media relations boss, tells us they've not talked to English, but "we'd welcome the opportunity to have a discussion with him."
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 03, 2008, 09:43:00 AM
an interesting article on Ramsay:

http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/TV_Shows/H/Hells_Kitchen/2008/05/02/5450881-sun.html (http://jam.canoe.ca/Television/TV_Shows/H/Hells_Kitchen/2008/05/02/5450881-sun.html)

Gordon Ramsay, king of all media.

Okay, we know that used to be Howard Stern's self-adopted title. But with two hit TV shows (Hell's Kitchen and Kitchen Nightmares), another one on the way (The F Word), and his latest book -- Gordon Ramsay's Fast Food -- on the best-sellers list, perhaps the 21st century has found a new ruler.

At a reception in Toronto earlier this week, we asked Ramsay if he ever had heard of Howard Stern, and if the unofficial king-of-all-media title is something to which the Scottish chef aspires.

"Howard Stern, sure, I know who he is," Ramsay said.

"But as for me being the king of all media, I don't really look at things that way.

"I'm one of those people who is kind of obsessed with looking forward to the next project, not looking back at things I've done." 
 
Be that as it may, does Ramsay ever take time to appreciate what a powerful pop-culture personality he has become?

"I just found out recently that I'm on TV three nights a week in Australia, and frankly, I find that a little bit scary," Ramsay said.

Why is that?

"Because I wonder what's going to happen when it all stops," Ramsay said.

"I'll have to re-invent myself."

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 03, 2008, 12:24:27 PM
I have been known to borrow bits of key information from other sources occcasionally. This time, I have a classic statement that deserves to be quoted verbatim and cedited from TV GUIDE for the May 6 show:

You only turn 16 once...so why would anyone entrust their big party and special day to these screwups?

I have the answer - celebrity junkies who want to see themselves on national TV no matter what it costs.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 03, 2008, 12:59:27 PM
I have been known to borrow bits of key information from other sources occcasionally. This time, I have a classic statement that deserves to be quoted verbatim and cedited from TV GUIDE for the May 6 show:

You only turn 16 once...so why would anyone entrust their big party and special day to these screwups?

I have the answer - celebrity junkies who wants to see themselves on national TV no matter what it costs.

 :lol: Thanks apskip. It's always a pleasure when you join the thread and share any info.

Even so I'm still looking forward to this weeks episode , reality is scarce right now and I need my fix   :funny:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 04, 2008, 04:34:39 PM

An interesting article: breakfast in bed :faint:

http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/food/2008/05/04/2008-05-04_3_questions_for_gordon_ramsay.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/lifestyle/food/2008/05/04/2008-05-04_3_questions_for_gordon_ramsay.html)

Gordon Ramsaymay act like a tough guy on "Hell's Kitchen," but he's known around England as a stickler for home cooking and a softy when it comes to his family:

Q. There are two mothers in your life: your wife, Tana, and your own mother, Helen. Will you be cooking for either this year?

A. As I am often away or working late in the week, the weekends are very precious. It's always a treat for Mum to join Tana, the children and I for Sunday lunch, and Mother's Day is no exception.

The kids and I will make breakfast in bed for Tana - something a bit special for a treat. Maybe a nice cup of tea, an egg frittata with pancetta, goat cheese and rocket [arugula; see recipe below]. Later on, Mum will stop by for Sunday lunch and we'll have a long, leisurely lunch together.

Do your kids ever help you cook?

I've got four little ones, all under 10, and they've grown up in and around the kitchen. I think it's important for children learn where their food comes from and to learn to appreciate what they're eating, so Tana and I like to get them involved, whether it's helping us out in the kitchen or trying new tastes and flavors.

You once said your last meal would be your mother's Sunday roast, to remind you of your childhood. If you were going to make a similar meal for your own family for a spring Sunday supper, what would you do?

Growing up, there wasn't a lot of money for food, but Mum would always make the most delicious, home-cooked meals using simple ingredients - quite humbling and something I really appreciate.

For Sunday at home, the children love a simple roast lamb or roast beef with Yorkshire puddings. We always make sure to have loads of vegetables, and perhaps a fresh fruit crumble or trifle for dessert.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 07, 2008, 12:27:20 AM

 :lol: Shayna the 4 hours for chopping up vegetables was tonight's HK's contestant to leave.

Ramsay kills me when he took over Rosann's position and boy oh boy was Ramsay ever pissed at Matt  :funny:

So Matt will try show he is a great chef and a leader in the kitchen by asking to be on the ladies team.

Good luck with that one as I don't think the ladies are going to welcome him with open arms.

 :jumpy: I can't wait until next week's show.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 10, 2008, 08:47:21 AM

This week on Hell's Kitchen:

Chef Ramsay tests the teams' taste-buds by doing a blindfold taste-test challenge.

Find out who knows their pork from their chicken and their potatoes from their polenta.

Those who impress Chef Ramsay get to enjoy being pampered at the spa, while the losing team is forced to clean the dorms.

During dinner service when one team :groan: tries to serve raw food and the other team fails to communicate with one another, Gordon loses his cool.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 10, 2008, 09:27:23 AM

[During dinner service when one team :groan: tries to serve raw food and the other team fails to communicate with one another, Gordon loses his cool.

It's too bad that we have never ever previously seen on Hell's Kitchen:
1. chefs serve food intended to be cooked raw.
2. teams failing to communicate
3. Gordon losing his cool.

These will be such a novelty!
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 10, 2008, 09:42:14 AM

[During dinner service when one team :groan: tries to serve raw food and the other team fails to communicate with one another, Gordon loses his cool.

It's too bad that we have never ever previously seen on Hell's Kitchen:
1. chefs serve food intended to be cooked raw.
2. teams failing to communicate
3. Gordon losing his cool.

These will be such a novelty!

 :funny: Thanks for the laugh, yay apskip was here  :wohoo:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 14, 2008, 08:39:59 PM

rosesrred  :whereru:    have you watched the last two episodes.

Anyways next week looks great Matt loses a finger possibly in the pancetta  :ascared
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on May 15, 2008, 12:23:14 PM

rosesrred  :whereru:    have you watched the last two episodes.

Anyways next week looks great Matt loses a finger possibly in the pancetta  :ascared

Hi CA!!  :waves:

Holy Carp! You think it's Matt who loses his finger? I am positive I know who joins the blue team? I replayed the recording over and over again, plain to see who has the blue coat on and I can't wait to see how she does.  :tup: It wasn't so clear about the finger tip but I did think it was one of the men.

It really makes you wonder how some of these people could be trained chefs doesn't it? I really can understand how someone can get burned but not how you can cut your finger off. (Well, I COULD understand it if you used the knife as fast as Hung did on Top Chef, but he is on another level from this bunch.)  :ascared

Rosesrred, are you still having trouble with that DVR? Demand a new one!! It's broken!  :-*

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 15, 2008, 02:08:20 PM
Texas Lady, I have known for over 24 hours that it is Jennifer that joins the Blue team so I will be happy to be the first to announce that.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 15, 2008, 02:12:35 PM

Hi CA!!  :waves:

Holy Carp! You think it's Matt who loses his finger? I am positive I know who joins the blue team? I replayed the recording over and over again, plain to see who has the blue coat on and I can't wait to see how she does.  :tup: It wasn't so clear about the finger tip but I did think it was one of the men.

It really makes you wonder how some of these people could be trained chefs doesn't it? I really can understand how someone can get burned but not how you can cut your finger off. (Well, I COULD understand it if you used the knife as fast as Hung did on Top Chef, but he is on another level from this bunch.)  :ascared

Rosesrred, are you still having trouble with that DVR? Demand a new one!! It's broken!  :-*


I hope I didn't spoil it for you TL

But yes for the preview for next week during HK it showed someone what looked to be a males finger was cut

So I went to HK's website and at the top of the site on the right cornor there are quick video's to view for next week

Click on that video to view a quick preview for next week it shows Matt and everyone looking for his finger

and Ramsay is looking for it and in a frying pan that is cooking pancetta ewwwww  :ascared

Link: http://www.fox.com/hellskitchen/ (http://www.fox.com/hellskitchen/)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 15, 2008, 02:39:21 PM

Texas Lady, I have known for over 24 hours that it is Jennifer that joins the Blue team so I will be happy to be the first to announce that.


 :jumpy: Yay apskip :wohoo:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on May 15, 2008, 03:20:52 PM
Texas Lady, I have known for over 24 hours that it is Jennifer that joins the Blue team so I will be happy to be the first to announce that.

LOL!! Good for you Apskip. Yes, it's clear that she does move over. I have hopes for her, I don't believe she will win but she has shown leadership abilities and we know that the men haven't shown much.

Gaw... It is Matt, Yuck!  :eww I forget to go look at Fox for videos because for some reason they won't play in Firefox. I have to use IE to watch.

I still want to see what Bobby, Petrozza and Louross can do as a leader. I still don't see anyone outstanding in this bunch.  :duno:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 15, 2008, 04:15:39 PM
Texas Lady, you are right on about the lack of leadership skills being demonstrated. Part of that is hopefully the Ramsay intimidation factor. Look at what happened to Jennifer when Ramsay thought she was encroaching on his responsibilities! She properly noted on camera that he talks one way and then disciplines based on strict adherence to authority (HIS).
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on May 15, 2008, 09:08:09 PM

rosesrred  :whereru:    have you watched the last two episodes.

Anyways next week looks great Matt loses a finger possibly in the pancetta  :ascared

Hi everyone yes i'm here and I could never miss Hell's Kitchen.  :-*  Just a real busy time school is winding down and I have one leaving middle school and one graduating so it's end of the year stuff from banquets to hijacking my laptop to turn in papers, etc.  So getting on line is like 10th down the line of things mom's allowed to do! :lol:  Thanks for asking and I miss all of you too!  And TL i'm actually on my 3rd HD DVR my last one recorded a blank gray screen and this one records a blank black screen my first one did both  (:;)  We love Directv but when they came out with their own DVR and broke their contract with TIVO that was the biggest mistake they made!  Their DVR's don't work at all!

I'm just wondering which of these chef's could run a kitchen  ???
Usually by this time you see someone that starts to shine through but not noticing meat is absent in the chef's dishes well that makes me wonder.   And when does a mango ever taste like a pineapple?  I'm just saying  :funny:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 15, 2008, 09:40:45 PM

rosesrred  :whereru:    have you watched the last two episodes.

Anyways next week looks great Matt loses a finger possibly in the pancetta  :ascared

Hi everyone yes i'm here and I could never miss Hell's Kitchen.  :-*  Just a real busy time school is winding down and I have one leaving middle school and one graduating so it's end of the year stuff from banquets to hijacking my laptop to turn in papers, etc.  So getting on line is like 10th down the line of things mom's allowed to do! :lol:  Thanks for asking and I miss all of you too!  And TL i'm actually on my 3rd HD DVR my last one recorded a blank gray screen and this one records a blank black screen my first one did both  (:;)  We love Directv but when they came out with their own DVR and broke their contract with TIVO that was the biggest mistake they made!  Their DVR's don't work at all!

I'm just wondering which of these chef's could run a kitchen  ???
Usually by this time you see someone that starts to shine through but not noticing meat is absent in the chef's dishes well that makes me wonder.   And when does a mango ever taste like a pineapple?  I'm just saying  :funny:


 :jumpy: Yay my girl is back, sooo glad you found a moment to check in  :hugs:

I think he said it was a nectarine  :funny:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 15, 2008, 10:12:17 PM
Other way around, actually. Petrozza said the nectarine tased like pineapple.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on May 15, 2008, 11:10:54 PM
Other way around, actually. Petrozza said the nectarine tased like pineapple.

Thank you apskip but that's even worse a nectarine tasting like a pineapple???  Gee not any nectarines i've tasted. 
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 16, 2008, 12:25:13 AM

Thank you apskip but that's even worse a nectarine tasting like a pineapple???  Gee not any nectarines i've tasted. 
 

You know what a day it was for Petrozza between the nectarine tasting like pineapple I don't know how one can confuse that distinct flavor of each fruit but also Ramsay yelling at him for a messy work area in the kitchen during dinner service and in the end Ramsay saying to Petrozza "Your level of maturity stands out, you are the most gracious man on that team and later went to say your a gentleman. That certainly is one heck of a compliment and Petrozza crying over the compliment. It was a rollercoaster of a day for him with what seemed to be a bad day ended in compliments.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 16, 2008, 11:05:15 AM
I would not say it was such a bad day for Petrozza. He could not tell a nectarine form a pineapple. He could also not distinguish turnip from a sweet potato. However he did get chicken and he was the only person who had half a clue on the funny taste to the faux meat even though he could not bring that one home. He did score one point in that phase of the competition. How many did Louross score? How many did Bobby score? Goose eggs for both! Only Ben seemed to have a better palate and it was a completely different type of test. Ben might have gotten zero if he had to do what Petrozza and the others had to do.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 16, 2008, 11:07:40 AM
One item that should be revisited was the Red Team telling Matt he’s going to be the first to go. He has no problem with that - as long as Ben goes before him. Ben is gone, so who will be next?

The correct answer is Rosann(who has been hanging on by her fingertips), then Matt the following week.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 16, 2008, 11:09:05 AM
 :lol: .... an interesting article (edited)

Q&A Gordon Ramsay Source: TV Guide May 19-25, 2008
 
Any chit-chat with Gordon Ramsay, the foul-mouthed British chef and demanding star of Hell's Kitchen (Tuesdays at 9 pm/ET, Fox), is likely to be, well, profane. We were relieved Ramsay's harsh words were aimed mostly at the contestants… and not us!
TV Guide: There seems to be a considerable lack of culinary talent this season.…
Gordon Ramsay: Characters have to be flamboyant and funny, but you know they could be on the verge of a liability. That's my battle with Fox — they want to run a show, and I a restaurant.

TV Guide: Are you worried that none of these people are really worthy of the prize — a senior chef position at your new London West Hollywood restaurant?
Ramsay: I'm not worried...I'm sh---ing myself. A $10 million investment, and here I am facing a scenario that I could have egg on my face.

TV Guide: Obviously the contestants are challenged, but what is it like for you?
Ramsay: If they look good, I look good. If they look bad, I look terrible — I'm standing there completely exposed with my pants down in front of a dining room full of 120 difficult diners. It's bloody hard.

TV Guide: Is it really that difficult to make beef Wellington and risotto?
Ramsay: [Laughs] The recipes are laid out in black-and-white — it's in plain f---ing English.

TV Guide: You're a dad — do you curse like that at home?
Ramsay: With four young children — no chance.

TV Guide: One word to describe your cooking style.
Ramsay: Passionate.

TV Guide: What's your favorite comfort food?
Ramsay: In-N-Out burgers [an L.A. chain] — I absolutely love them.

TV Guide: Are you a fan of any American chefs? Thomas Keller, Ramsay: Jean-Georges Vongerichten, Daniel Boulud. Then you've got your TV chefs — Emeril [Lagasse], Bobby Flay. [Food Network] keeps on asking me to go on this Iron Chef thing.

TV Guide: Really? Are you going to do it?
Ramsay: I think they want to get me one-on-one to see what [I'm] really like on my own. Here's my issue — I have a competition every day, not once a month on Iron Chef on Food Network, which I love watching. It makes me laugh to watch them cook in an hour. Of course I welcome [the challenge] one day, but winning three [Michelin] stars in New York, three stars in L.A., three stars in London and three stars in Paris — when I achieve [that] goal in the culinary world, then I'll go on Iron Chef America. [Laughs]

TV Guide: You're promoting a new cookbook....
Ramsay: Yeah, Fast Food. Fast food doesn't have to be junk food. With four kids and a manic lifestyle, honestly, at home it's like the bloody zoo. Cooking from home is a completely different league, but a joy.

TV Guide: Any more Kitchen Nightmares?
Ramsay: I just finished filming the new [season] and here's the bad news… I've just been told I've got an ulcer from eating crap. So I have a big medical bill coming towards Fox. I swear to God, I'm so pissed off.

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 16, 2008, 11:27:37 AM
bb ca fan, I am amused by a few things that Ramsay said. However, most interesting is the attitude of the writer, who based on his reputation apparently she was going to be eaten alive by Gordon Ramsay. Come on, the man is just trying to run a restaurant with some marginal help. It is his style to throw things and to curse incessantly, but he apparently is a very decent chap in real life when the cameras are not on. As Jon Lovitz on Saturday Night Live used to say: "ACTING".

The most interesting question is There seems to be  complete lack of culinary talent this season? I've noticed that too and pondered why. I believe the answer is that the advanced chefs want to be on TopChef and Ramsay is stuck with the less talented to work with. He is a gifted teacher of the culinary arts, but there is only so much he can do in limited time of 15 one hour episodes. From the list of original HK4 contestants I have culled 3 that I think say it all:

Ben, 29, an electrician and former chef from Charlotte, NC

Dominic, 43, a stay-at-home dad from Catawba, SC

Rosann, 33, a receptionist and former cook from Staten Island, NY

Note the use of the word FORMER. Ramsay had to dig up 3 chefs who were out of the business in order to make this show work. Is it any wonder that he is having such serious problems?

Ramsay's answer was that his cheftestants have to be flamboyant and funny, and that may put him into liabiliity situations(which he hates but has to accept).

Note also Ramsay's apparent disdain for FOX. There were multiple references that were not exactly flattering.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on May 16, 2008, 12:29:22 PM
I would not say it was such a bad day for Petrozza. He could not tell a nectarine form a pineapple. He could also not distinguish turnip from a sweet potato. However he did get chicken and he was the only person who had half a clue on the funny taste to the faux meat even though he could not bring that one home. He did score one point in that phase of the competition. How many did Louross score? How many did Bobby score? Goose eggs for both! Only Ben seemed to have a better palate and it was a completely different type of test. Ben might have gotten zero if he had to do what Petrozza and the others had to do.

And I noticed during Ben's and Matt's "taste challenge" that they knew they were eating clam chowder so they basically had to go thru the ingredients that make chowder and it was a slam dunk for either of them.  I was naming the ingredients as they were it was a very ez challenge for the last two. 

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 16, 2008, 01:12:35 PM
bb ca fan, I am amused by a few things that Ramsay said. However, most interesting is the attitude of the writer, who based on his reputation apparently she was going to be eaten alive by Gordon Ramsay. Come on, the man is just trying to run a restaurant with some marginal help. It is his style to throw things and to curse incessantly, but he apparently is a very decent chap in real life when the cameras are not on. As Jon Lovitz on Saturday Night Live used to say: "ACTING".

The most interesting question is There seems to be  complete lack of culinary talent this season? I've noticed that too and pondered why. I believe the answer is that the advanced chefs want to be on TopChef and Ramsay is stuck with the talented to work with. He is a gifted teacher of the culinary arts, but there is only so much he can do in limited time of 15 one hour episodes. From the list of original HK4 contestants I have culled 3 that I think say it all:

Ben, 29, an electrician and former chef from Charlotte, NC

Dominic, 43, a stay-at-home dad from Catawba, SC

Rosann, 33, a receptionist and former cook from Staten Island, NY

Note the use of the word FORMER. Ramsay had to dig up 3 chefs who were out of the business in order to make this show work. Is it any wonder that he is having such serious problems?

Ramsay's answer was that his cheftestants have to be flamboyant and funny, and that may put him into liabiliity situations(which he hates but has to accept).

Note also Ramsay's apparent disdain for FOX. There were multiple references that were not exactly flattering.


Oh absolutely apskip that is the difference between Top Chef and HK.

You know I can't forget an article I had read and posted early in this thread where Ramsay stated that, "It's much more exciting to me when you can pluck somebody out of obscurity."  He mentioned "that the people who don't start out as professionals often have a greater level of passion in the kitchen." So as completely unqualified as his contestants seem, what an opportunity for them.

Another tidbit of information I was glad to revisit states that "Chef Ramsay dropped other interesting tidbits about the season, such as the fact that all the previous winners will be back to help with the judging.  This should also provide an opportunity to see how successful the winners from the first three seasons have been." So I am looking forward to that.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 16, 2008, 01:25:59 PM

bb ca fan, I am amused by a few things that Ramsay said. However, most interesting is the attitude of the writer, who based on his reputation apparently she was going to be eaten alive by Gordon Ramsay. Come on, the man is just trying to run a restaurant with some marginal help. It is his style to throw things and to curse incessantly, but he apparently is a very decent chap in real life when the cameras are not on. As Jon Lovitz on Saturday Night Live used to say: "ACTING".


 :lol: Your so right on that.

I don't know whether that was a failed effort at humor from the writer which I would probably be more satisfied with than that ridicules statement.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 16, 2008, 10:29:38 PM
bb ca fan, I am amused by a few things that Ramsay said. However, most interesting is the attitude of the writer, who based on his reputation apparently she was going to be eaten alive by Gordon Ramsay. Come on, the man is just trying to run a restaurant with some marginal help. It is his style to throw things and to curse incessantly, but he apparently is a very decent chap in real life when the cameras are not on. As Jon Lovitz on Saturday Night Live used to say: "ACTING".

The most interesting question is There seems to be  complete lack of culinary talent this season? I've noticed that too and pondered why. I believe the answer is that the advanced chefs want to be on TopChef and Ramsay is stuck with the less talented to work with. He is a gifted teacher of the culinary arts, but there is only so much he can do in limited time of 15 one hour episodes. From the list of original HK4 contestants I have culled 3 that I think say it all:

Ben, 29, an electrician and former chef from Charlotte, NC

Dominic, 43, a stay-at-home dad from Catawba, SC

Rosann, 33, a receptionist and former cook from Staten Island, NY

Note the use of the word FORMER. Ramsay had to dig up 3 chefs who were out of the business in order to make this show work. Is it any wonder that he is having such serious problems?

Ramsay's answer was that his cheftestants have to be flamboyant and funny, and that may put him into liabiliity situations(which he hates but has to accept).

Note also Ramsay's apparent disdain for FOX. There were multiple references that were not exactly flattering.


Oh absolutely apskip that is the difference between Top Chef and HK.

You know I can't forget an article I had read and posted early in this thread where Ramsay stated that, "It's much more exciting to me when you can pluck somebody out of obscurity."  He mentioned "that the people who don't start out as professionals often have a greater level of passion in the kitchen." So as completely unqualified as his contestants seem, what an opportunity for them.

Another tidbit of information I was glad to revisit states that "Chef Ramsay dropped other interesting tidbits about the season, such as the fact that all the previous winners will be back to help with the judging.  This should also provide an opportunity to see how successful the winners from the first three seasons have been." So I am looking forward to that.

I think we had a taste of how Ramsay uses such judges in the HK3 Finale. They are just freaking placehohlders whose job is clearly to make sure the score gets and stays tied so that the heavy hitters can make the real decision. It's all phony baloney. They could hire a monkey to do the same job!
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 17, 2008, 08:50:17 AM
I think we had a taste of how Ramsay uses such judges in the HK3 Finale. They are just freaking placehohlders whose job is clearly to make sure the score gets and stays tied so that the heavy hitters can make the real decision. It's all phony baloney. They could hire a monkey to do the same job!

 :funny: OMG that’s funny apskip

I would be perfectly willing to wager the monkey knowing the difference between a nectarine and a pineapple or tofu over real meat for that matter.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 19, 2008, 11:15:29 AM
... an interesting article

Fox will try to “accelerate” Survivor’s demise by airing Moment of Truth, Hell’s Kitchen against it

Next season, Survivor will face a challenge that the show hasn’t seen before, as Fox will air its two biggest non-American Idol reality shows against it. Moment of Truth will face off against Survivor Gabon in the fall and Hell’s Kitchen will air opposite season 18 of the CBS reality series next spring.

The Hollywood Reporter’s James Hibberd reports that “Fox is gunning to finally take down CBS’ ‘Survivor.’ Fox has lined up its second and third-highest rated reality shows to air head-to-head against CBS’ veteran hit.” While “‘Survivor’ has owned its Thursdays at 8 p.m. time period the last couple years,” and networks “keep their more significant reality shows out of its way,” “Thursdays command the highest ad rates” and “Fox routinely comes in fourth place on the richest night of the week.”

Fox executive Peter Liguori told the paper, “Look, it’s eroding! It’s an older show. Its eventually going to give up and were trying to accelerate that.” The network was encouraged to try it because when Survivor aired on Wednesday night, Moment of Truth aired opposite it and won.

I may just be hoping against the downfall of Western civilization, but I can’t imagine Moment of Truth will be successful in unseating CBS’ marquee reality series. For one, it doesn’t have anywhere near the shelf life of Survivor. The show mostly wastes time, and ends right at the most interesting part: when the contestants face consequences for their revelations. While it started strong with 23.2 million viewers, that episode had American Idol as a lead-in, and it lost viewers as its season went on.
By the time Moment of Truth’s season ended, 10.162 million viewers were watching, a huge drop, while Survivor Micronesia had 12.870 million viewers that same week, according to TV by the Numbers. As of May 11, Survivor Micronesia had a season-to-date average of 14,280,000 viewers, while Moment of Truth had 14,172,000, according to TV by the Numbers. That’s not a huge lead for CBS, but it’s still a lead.

I think the bigger problem is Hell’s Kitchen, which will air against Survivor 18 next spring. The two shows couldn’t be more different, of course. One involves strategy and requires some mental engagement on the part of viewers, while the other is basically an excuse to watch man yell at and insult a bunch of incompetent adults for an hour every week. Survivor tends to pull weaker numbers in the spring, and Hell’s Kitchen was watched by 14.01 million people last Tuesday, although it had American Idol as a lead-in, which it won’t on Thursday nights.

The biggest question of all, though, may be whether or not this even matters. Those people with DVRs who want to watch both shows will just record both shows; others may watch one of the two online instead of on TV. For those of us who do watch TV in these newfangled ways, this show vs. show mentality is largely irrelevant, and seems to reflect old thinking about the way people consume television. The scheduling showdown may have an impact because not everyone records shows or watches online, but it seems pretty archaic to assume that scheduling one show against another means that everyone will just abandon one show for the other.

Source: http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/survivor_gabon/2008_May_19_fox_survivor_competition (http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/survivor_gabon/2008_May_19_fox_survivor_competition)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 20, 2008, 09:59:04 AM
Today's paper has a listing for Hell's Kitchen with "chefs try to create 4 dishes using 20 ingredients." This sounds more like TopChef 4 than Hell's Kitchen 4, but it is clearly an important part of a chef's development. This will separate the better chefs from the lesser. Who knows, it may show that Matt is really the best. Chefs with better training like Bobby, Louross, Matt and maybe Petrozza should have the edge with this. Rosann is likely to be in trouble. Christina, Corey and Jen will all be in an intermediate group based on culinary background alone. It will be interesting to see how all  chefs fare in this Challenge.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on May 20, 2008, 10:52:13 AM
This sounds like an interesting challenge, and the four you mention should do better. I'm waiting to see Petrozza shine. We saw a glimpse of his abilities when he had to do table side service but not much since. Louross took over the kitchen once and did well, Bobby has ability but he also let his team down in the beginning when he wouldn't help.

I meant to reply to another post but forgot to hit post and lost it. :groan: I think Ramsey pushes people to see how they take the stress and criticism. Some rise and meet or exceed his expectations and some get mad and stop talking or in Jen's case, sulk. I hope she does better this week.

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 20, 2008, 03:04:31 PM
Today's paper has a listing for Hell's Kitchen with "chefs try to create 4 dishes using 20 ingredients." This sounds more like TopChef 4 than Hell's Kitchen 4, but it is clearly an important part of a chef's development. This will separate the better chefs from the lesser. Who knows, it may show that Matt is really the best. Chefs with better training like Bobby, Louross, Matt and maybe Petrozza should have the edge with this. Rosann is likely to be in trouble. Christina, Corey and Jen will all be in an intermediate group based on culinary background alone. It will be interesting to see how all  chefs fare in this Challenge.

Nice apskip thanks for sharing this information.

I am so looking forward to tonights episode and let's not forget the loss of Matt's finger tip :ascared

But clearly it's time for Rosann to step it up or get out of the kitchen and back to answering phones.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on May 20, 2008, 05:47:37 PM
Nice apskip thanks for sharing this information.

I am so looking forward to tonights episode and let's not forget the loss of Matt's finger tip :ascared

But clearly it's time for Rosann to step it up or get out of the kitchen and back to answering phones.

I'm looking forward to watching as well, except for the possibility that it IS Matt's finger tip frying in the pan. :helpme

I had high hopes for Rosann but she is out of her element here, I agree, she has to step up or go. 
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 20, 2008, 06:57:43 PM

I'm looking forward to watching as well, except for the possibility that it IS Matt's finger tip frying in the pan. :helpme

I had high hopes for Rosann but she is out of her element here, I agree, she has to step up or go. 

 :groan: Oh TL with Dancing with the Stars Idol and HK I will have to save my best for last and record HK

Poor Matt it must so painful :(
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on May 20, 2008, 08:06:47 PM
Quote
  Oh TL with Dancing with the Stars Idol and HK I will have to save my best for last and record HK

Poor Matt it must so painful

I feel for ya Ca!!  :-*
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 20, 2008, 11:59:42 PM
Quote
  Oh TL with Dancing with the Stars Idol and HK I will have to save my best for last and record HK

Poor Matt it must so painful

I feel for ya Ca!!  :-*

 :lol: wow I just finished watching all the shows I recorded

Ramsay had no pity on poor Matt who had just cut off his fingertip ouch it must be painful

I have to admit when Ramsay said for Rosann to get back in line I argued his decision, glad he agreed

:ascared Anyone notice toilet brush (I'm never going to forget that one thanks to puddin) has been over grooming his eyebrows  :lol:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on May 21, 2008, 10:45:42 AM
What a great show last night I am so thankful that I decided to watch it and NOT record it!!!!!  Can't help put love, love, love HK but also have to wonder did they ever find that tip to Matt's finger???  (http://dl6.glitter-graphics.net/pub/984/984406ju1tuish9n.gif) (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 21, 2008, 12:31:43 PM
Why do you think Ramsay was only taking a tiny sample of all the Red team dishes? He's no dummy!
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 21, 2008, 02:03:20 PM

My initial thought about Ramsay’s taste test in the first challenge was oh I wouldn’t be able to taste any food after the mishap with Matt. Where are those chef’s from previous seasons, it’s a good time to have them make an appearance.

I have to admit I emailed Intouch magazine requesting the edition with the cover with Ramsay  :angel:

Did you see Jen’s reaction towards the Red Team she was hilarious and it looks like Jen will be all over Louross in next week’s episode.

The preview showing next week shows someone sweating in the food OMG that is just disgusting and nothing infuriates me more than a disgusting chef who thinks that is acceptable.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: RudyRules on May 22, 2008, 01:29:28 AM
Is this show in the finals yet, ca bb?  Sounds like you're all enjoying it. 
(except for the sweat in the food! :groan:  )
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 22, 2008, 07:42:32 AM
RudyRules, the sweat in the food has not been shown on camera yet. It is next week.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on May 22, 2008, 03:14:00 PM
Is this show in the finals yet, ca bb?  Sounds like you're all enjoying it. 
(except for the sweat in the food! :groan:  )

No it's not in the finals yet.  Not sure when it will be but it has a few more episodes to go  :js:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 22, 2008, 05:02:51 PM
Is this show in the finals yet, ca bb?  Sounds like you're all enjoying it. 
(except for the sweat in the food! :groan:  )

 :-* Hi ya RudyRules, yes the sweating is as gross as it sounds, just gross.

It makes you want to go back to the kitchen next time you dine and say hello to the chef  ;)

As for the episodes as far as I can see there are 7 episodes left, unfortunately for me I wish it could go on forever  :funny:


5/27/08 (Tu.) 9:00 PM FOX (HK-409) 7 Chefs Compete

6/3/08 (Tu.) 9:00 PM FOX (HK-410) 6 Chefs Compete

6/10/08 (Tu.) 9:00 PM FOX (HK-411) 5 Chefs Compete

6/17/08 (Tu.) 9:00 PM FOX (HK-412) 4 Chefs Compete

6/24/08 (Tu.) 9:00 PM FOX (HK-413) 3 Chefs Compete

7/1/08 (Tu.) 9:00 PM FOX (HK-414) 2 Chefs Compete

7/8/08 (Tu.) 9:00 PM FOX (HK-415) Winner Announced
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 22, 2008, 05:07:18 PM

.... next week's episode

CHAOS ENSUES AND FORCES CHEF RAMSAY UP AGAINST A WALL ON "HELL'S KITCHEN" TUESDAY, MAY 27, ON FOX

It's all about speed and accuracy as the teams are challenged to prepare dishes for Chef Ramsay in a relay race.

The winners are treated to a day of fun in the sun as they head to the beach for private surfing lessons.

The losing team is forced to get down and dirty and clean the entire restaurant.

During dinner service, Chef Ramsay gives the contestants the chance to create their own menus,

but when one team can't decide on the menu, it causes major chaos.

With this being the worst dinner service yet, Chef Ramsay does something drastic during the elimination ceremony

when "7 Chefs Compete" on HELL'S KITCHEN
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 22, 2008, 10:49:02 PM
What could something drastic be? I think it might be elimination of one member of each team regardless of which team has won or the elimination of 2 members from the same team. I can see Matt and Christina or Matt and Louross biting the dust.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 23, 2008, 12:17:51 AM
What could something drastic be? I think it might be elimination of one member of each team regardless of which team has won or the elimination of 2 members from the same team. I can see Matt and Christina or Matt and Louross biting the dust.

I believe your right apskip.

I had to look again at the preview for next week.

It seems that not only does one chef sweat into the food but another tries to serve raw food again

and another produced some really bad tasting food

and of course a whole lotta hollaring by Ramsay his best one yet  :funny:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: RudyRules on May 23, 2008, 03:59:22 AM
Is this show in the finals yet, ca bb?  Sounds like you're all enjoying it. 
(except for the sweat in the food! :groan:  )
:-* Hi ya RudyRules, yes the sweating is as gross as it sounds, just gross.
It makes you want to go back to the kitchen next time you dine and say hello to the chef  ;)
As for the episodes as far as I can see there are 7 episodes left, unfortunately for me I wish it could go on forever  :funny: 
Hey ca bb, they could add some blood & tears to the sweat! :stirtp:  Maybe a winner!  :lol3:  :jam:  :<3
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 26, 2008, 05:51:46 PM
I have seen something which confirms that it is Matt sweating into the food.

I have also seen in TV Guide the listing for Tuesday night's episode, which involves a relay race.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 26, 2008, 06:25:21 PM

I have seen something which confirms that it is Matt sweating into the food.

I have also seen in TV Guide the listing for Tuesday night's episode, which involves a relay race.

 :kuss: boy am I glad to see you, it's been a while apskip  :jumpy:

So it is Matt sweating in the food  (:;) I can't wait to see the episode  :wohoo:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: scarsonefan on May 27, 2008, 01:20:12 PM
What could something drastic be? I think it might be elimination of one member of each team regardless of which team has won or the elimination of 2 members from the same team. I can see Matt and Christina or Matt and Louross biting the dust.

Well, I like to gamble a lot and do plenty of online sportsbetting.  The sportsbook I have, has wagers for the winner of Hell's Kitchen.  The current odds as of May 27 @ 11:14 AM PST is:

Cristina      -130
Corey        +900
Jen            +1000
Bobby        +650
Louross     +225
Matt          +2500
Petraozza +1600

Looks like Matt is on his way out soon.  With Petrozza and Jen right behind.  Maybe even Petrozza goes tonight.  For sure it is Matt leaving tonight.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 27, 2008, 05:27:24 PM
I agree with that thinking. I think what we will see is 2 eliminations in 1 night. First is Matt for seweating into the food. Then blue team will lose and I expect Louross, not Petrossa, to be the other one eliminated.

I diagree strongly with the betting syndicate's handicaps. I think the final 3 will be Bobby, Petrozza and Corey. Christina has been overrated by the syndicate. She will be next gone after the two above. Jen will make it to the final 4 but not beyond. This will give you somewhat different odds.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 28, 2008, 05:09:13 AM

Well, I like to gamble a lot and do plenty of online sportsbetting.  The sportsbook I have, has wagers for the winner of Hell's Kitchen.  The current odds as of May 27 @ 11:14 AM PST is:
Cristina      -130
Corey        +900
Jen            +1000
Bobby        +650
Louross     +225
Matt          +2500
Petraozza +1600
Looks like Matt is on his way out soon.  With Petrozza and Jen right behind.  Maybe even Petrozza goes tonight.  For sure it is Matt leaving tonight.

 :hello2: scarsonefan thank you for the info, please do keep us updated and welcome to RFF.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 28, 2008, 05:22:21 AM

Well the profusely sweating fingertipless whining baby (Matt) has somehow managed to escape elimination and has returned to the blue team.

Jen is getting on my last nerve if she plans on doing all that talking she better be able to back it up and as far as I can see she can’t, she’s just all mouth.

It’s no wonder Ramsay is irate. I can’t say I blame him. I understand the drama for tv

but really one of these yo-yos is suppose to be hired as a senior chef for his LA restaurant :groan:

I agree Bobby and Petrozza for the final 2.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 28, 2008, 07:48:59 AM
bb ca fan, I totally agree with your thinking on Jen. Although Jen has some culinary talent, she has failed to discern that Ramsay likes a nice peaceful, communicating kitchen. Jen is so abrasive and divisive that her days are numbered regardless of how well she cooks.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 28, 2008, 08:48:28 AM
bb ca fan, I totally agree with your thinking on Jen. Although Jen has some culinary talent, she has failed to discern that Ramsay likes a nice peaceful, communicating kitchen. Jen is so abrasive and divisive that her days are numbered regardless of how well she cooks.

 :groan: Oh apskip I agree there is a difference between communicating and controlling. She has some talent but that menu coordinated for dinner service was how much percent I can’t recall the exact amount something like 70-75% was all her controlling it. It had failed miserably with Ramsay.

There is nothing like a chef that is not intimidated by leadership it involves self confidence but most importantly the ability to do the job. Jen doesn’t have that, it’s just mouth with her. It’s clear she is not the one for Ramsay.

What had also surprised me was Petrozza contemplating rubbing out Bobby, it’s smart that he didn’t act on that. It’s to early for that when there are his other teammates that played a role with the blue teams 2 loses, the challenge and dinner service.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 28, 2008, 01:16:00 PM
cc ba fan, he had to at least think about it before acting. However, he would rapidly conclude that Bobby has been a team player and that his cooking talent has been amply demonstrated. That means that nominating Bobby would have been an invitation for the Red Team to clobber the Blue Team until all Blue members including Petrozza himself were gone. It should not have taken much thinking to figure out that having Bobby around longer is in Petrozza's best interest. Next out from the Blue Team is going to be Matt, but maybe Bobby and Petrozza could wipe out the remaining Red Team(Corey, Christina and Jen) first. Another factor that Petrozza would have had to consider is how Ramsay will lose faith in him if he deviates from giving the best possible recommendation/nominations.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: neoknows on May 28, 2008, 02:31:34 PM
I know you guys can be anal about links to other sites (rightfully so) but you should check out the sarcastic Hells Kitchen episode recaps at Pophangover.com - http://pophangover.com/hellskitchen (http://pophangover.com/hellskitchen)... my coworkers and I laugh our butts off every Wednesday. There are funny screen caps too.

I think Corey is going to win this season. They're really pushing for her - not showing her doing anything wrong, etc. BYE BYE LOUROSS!!!
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 28, 2008, 07:11:40 PM
cc ba fan, he had to at least think about it before acting. However, he would rapidly conclude that Bobby has been a team player and that his cooking talent has been amply demonstrated. That means that nominating Bobby would have been an invitation for the Red Team to clobber the Blue Team until all Blue members including Petrozza himself were gone. It should not have taken much thinking to figure out that having Bobby around longer is in Petrozza's best interest. Next out from the Blue Team is going to be Matt, but maybe Bobby and Petrozza could wipe out the remaining Red Team(Corey, Christina and Jen) first. Another factor that Petrozza would have had to consider is how Ramsay will lose faith in him if he deviates from giving the best possible recommendation/nominations.

apskip that makes perfect sense brilliant really you absolutely have it all covered  :<3

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 28, 2008, 07:19:24 PM
I know you guys can be anal about links to other sites (rightfully so) but you should check out the sarcastic Hells Kitchen episode recaps at Pophangover.com - http://pophangover.com/hellskitchen (http://pophangover.com/hellskitchen)... my coworkers and I laugh our butts off every Wednesday. There are funny screen caps too.

I think Corey is going to win this season. They're really pushing for her - not showing her doing anything wrong, etc. BYE BYE LOUROSS!!!

Well  :hithere: neoknows and thanks for the link and welcome to RFF.

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 28, 2008, 07:35:31 PM
I went through all episodes from 3 to 9 on pophangover.com. The writer has the necessary twisted sense of humor, but has limited culinary knowledge. Two examples of that are not knowing what risotto is and having no appreciation for the very expensive white truffles on Gordon Ramsay's demonstration pizza. Granted that the usual food coming out of Hell's Kitchen does not require great culinary knowledge (steaks, fish, pasta, salad) but when something simple like risotto comes up that writer is apparently incapable of handling it. The "zap" factor in these reviews is very high, putting my Top Chef 4 recaps to shame for their significantly lower "zap". All in all, I can only recommend pophangover.com/hellskitchen for those needing a zap experience.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on May 28, 2008, 07:50:31 PM
What could something drastic be? I think it might be elimination of one member of each team regardless of which team has won or the elimination of 2 members from the same team. I can see Matt and Christina or Matt and Louross biting the dust.

Well, I like to gamble a lot and do plenty of online sportsbetting.  The sportsbook I have, has wagers for the winner of Hell's Kitchen.  The current odds as of May 27 @ 11:14 AM PST is:

Cristina      -130
Corey        +900
Jen            +1000
Bobby        +650
Louross     +225
Matt          +2500
Petraozza +1600

Looks like Matt is on his way out soon.  With Petrozza and Jen right behind.  Maybe even Petrozza goes tonight.  For sure it is Matt leaving tonight.

Thanks for posting Interesting odds! Welcome to RFF Scarsonefan! I love Hell's Kitchen!!

 :welcome: :welcome: :welcome:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 28, 2008, 07:56:43 PM

I had only read the first paragraph and was not inclined to read further.

It does have zing infact it's all zing I prefer it subtly added.

It is somewhat comical but lacks standard professional writing I’m accustomed to and enjoy reading.

What can I say I have my favorite writers I stay faithful too, they always keep me coming back for more.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on May 28, 2008, 08:23:23 PM
I went through all episodes from 3 to 9 on pophangover.com. The writer has the necessary twisted sense of humor, but has limited culinary knowledge. Two examples of that are not knowing what risotto is and having no appreciation for the very expensive ****e truffles on Gordon Ramsay's demonstration pizza. Granted that the usual food coming out of Hell's Kitchen does not require great culinary knowledge (steaks, fish, pasta, salad) but when something simple like risotto comes up that writer is apparently incapable of handling it. The "zap" factor in these reviews is very high, putting my Top Chef 4 recaps to shame for their significantly lower "zap". All in all, I can only recommend pophangover.com/hellskitchen for those needing a zap experience.

I don't think I need "zap" comments Apskip, I prefer your's.

I believe we see the final four, Jen and Matt won't be around. I was sorry to see Louross leave but he couldn't command respect and for that, he had to go. (Of course he did have 3 intimidating sized people on his team so it put him at a slight disadvantage.) I believe if he had been a better cook, he would have earned more respect and that really was his downfall. He couldn't rise to the level needed to stay.

I also thought Petrozza said it perfectly in this last episode, Jen thinks she knows more than she really does. (I love her comments though, she cracks me up.)

Matt lacks skills and he might have lasted merely for the drama or luckily for him the red team won and he wasn't eliminated. (Watching him sweat, ugh, I wouldn't want to eat his food!)

I really wish that I could see more performance from Petrozza, we see glimpses of what Bobby CAN do, but he really doesn't stand out. I do believe Ramsey sees possibilities with Petrozza. Last night was another test to see what he could do, making a tough decision. That's why he gave him the job of eliminating Jen or Louross.




Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on May 28, 2008, 08:37:09 PM
I know you guys can be anal about links to other sites (rightfully so) but you should check out the sarcastic Hells Kitchen episode recaps at Pophangover.com... my coworkers and I laugh our butts off every Wednesday. There are funny screen caps too.

I think Corey is going to win this season. They're really pushing for her - not showing her doing anything wrong, etc. BYE BYE LOUROSS!!!

She well could be a finalist, I don't think she is qualified to run a kitchen based on what we've seen but of course it is edited for television. Just my opinion though.  ;)

Welcome to RFF neoknows.

 :welcome:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 28, 2008, 10:21:52 PM

 :bounce next week on Hell's Kitchen Epsiode 10

TWO TEAMS BECOME ONE AND CHEFS ARE ON THEIR OWN ON "HELL'S KITCHEN" TUESDAY, JUNE 3, ON FOX

Chef Ramsay takes the contestants to the future location of The London West Hollywood to give them inspiration as their quest to win the coveted prize continues.

When they get back to the kitchen, it's all business as two teams become one.

Each chef is given one main ingredient and must create a dish suitable to the palate of Chef Ramsay.

During dinner service, things heat up and the contestants are pushed to the limit -- one chef accidentally burns the rice, another chef burns a hand and the medic is called to the kitchen yet again!

Things continue to go downhill, and the chefs have trouble getting food out to the patrons in the "6 Chefs Compete" episode of HELL'S KITCHEN
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on May 28, 2008, 10:27:11 PM
Ca, thanks for always posting the best teasers!  :tup:

Another accidental burn!!! Ye Gods! The only one I can think of who tends to go bonkers from stress is Matt, I wonder if he burns himself. (This season truly HAS been Hell's Kitchen!)  :ascared
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: neoknows on May 29, 2008, 08:50:51 AM
I went through all episodes from 3 to 9 on pophangover.com. The writer has the necessary twisted sense of humor, but has limited culinary knowledge. Two examples of that are not knowing what risotto is and having no appreciation for the very expensive ****e truffles on Gordon Ramsay's demonstration pizza.

...Oh dear. It's a 100% humor site, not a food critic website guys! My friends and I don't care that the writers have limited culinary knowledge, in fact, that's the beauty of 'em to me. I can relate. Not many people, including myself, want to eat a ****e truffle or care about risotto.  I'm there for the laughs, not for someone's professional opinion on how tasty a mushroom is! Thankfully it's all what you call "zing" - or it would be so boring to read, especially if you've already seen the episode. Lol. To each his own.

Thanks everyone for the kind welcomes! I have to weigh in on my picks for the final 2: I think it's going to come down to COREY vs PETROZZA. I don't think Bobby has a shot in hell at winning the title.

Pophangover did bring up another interesting point about the incessant deceptive advertising from Fox and it drove me crazy. I found it insulting. Corey/Louross in the hot tub (lie!), finger in someone's food (lie!), etc. Did that bother anyone else, or do you just consider it your everyday average "plea" for ratings?
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 29, 2008, 09:39:39 AM
neoknows, consider the source. Do you really expect reputable journalism from the FOX network? Their journalism is a joke, so what would you expect from FOX advertising?

Nevertheless, I watch Hell's Kitchen 4 on FOX for its entertainment value.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on May 29, 2008, 10:02:52 AM
...Oh dear. It's a 100% humor site, not a food critic website guys! My friends and I don't care that the writers have limited culinary knowledge, in fact, that's the beauty of 'em to me. I can relate. Not many people, including myself, want to eat a ****e truffle or care about risotto.  I'm there for the laughs, not for someone's professional opinion on how tasty a mushroom is! Thankfully it's all what you call "zing" - or it would be so boring to read, especially if you've already seen the episode. Lol. To each his own.

Thanks everyone for the kind welcomes! I have to weigh in on my picks for the final 2: I think it's going to come down to COREY vs PETROZZA. I don't think Bobby has a shot in hell at winning the title.

Pophangover did bring up another interesting point about the incessant deceptive advertising from Fox and it drove me crazy. I found it insulting. Corey/Louross in the hot tub (lie!), finger in someone's food (lie!), etc. Did that bother anyone else, or do you just consider it your everyday average "plea" for ratings?

Well, I went to the site and to tell you the truth it became tedious to read. Ah well, as you say, to each his own.

I'm with Apskip though, I watch Hell's Kitchen for the entertainment value. I've watched this show from the beginning so I'm a fan. I will say though that this year has been disappointing to me, either we are seeing contestants from the bottom of the barrel or we haven't seen what they are capable of doing. We aren't seeing top chefs here but have we really seen what they can do or has it been edited out. ???  (The TOP chefs were already on another show as Apskip has noted earlier in the thread.)  :js:

I'm not impressed with Corey or the culinary student Christina... any of them. We'll see how the final 4 perform soon enough.



Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on May 29, 2008, 01:37:39 PM
Texas Lady, I will give you my assessment of the remaining HK4 cast:

Overall - the weakest group of chefs I have ever seen on reality TV
Bobby - I think he has talent and he can exercise leadership when he chooses to; he is cunning and often adopts an under-the-radar approach; in his employment he functions as an Executive Chef, which is a big plus
Petrozza - has the most experience because he is at least 10 years older than anyone else still in this competition; I like him as a straight-shooter but cannot conceive of Ramsay hiring him for the new restaurant
Corey - I have liked Corey from the beginning; she has less experience than Bobby or Petrozza but she has a lot of culinary talent; I can see her being hired by Ramsay
Christina - very young and still a culinary student; there is no way she is going to be running Ramsay's new restaurant
Matt - what is he doing here? wasn't he eliminated a long time ago and aren't we just seeing his ghost? Matt has no chance at all of being hired by Ramsay. He has the least talent and the highest record of screw-ups. I think they kept him around this long for comic relief only.

Jen - I just discovered one week later that I left Jen out, She has decent culinary talent, but her headstrong approach has not been appreciated by the other chefs or by Ramsay.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on May 29, 2008, 04:24:12 PM
Texas Lady, I will give you my assessment of the remaining HK4 cast:

Overall - the weakest group of chefs I have ever seen on reality TV
Bobby - I think he has talent and he can exercise leadership when he chooses to; he is cunning and often adopts an under-the-radar approach; in his employment he functions as an Executive Chef, which is a big plus
Petrozza - has the most experience because he is at least 10 years older than anyone else still in this competition; I like him as a straight-shooter but cannot conceive of Ramsay hiring him for the new restaurant
Corey - I have liked Corey from the beginning; she has less experience than Bobby or Petrozza but she has a lot of culinary talent; I can see her being hired by Ramsay
Christina - very young and still a culinary student; there is no way she is going to be running Ramsay's new restaurant
Matt - what is he doing here? wasn't he eliminated a long time ago and aren't we just seeing his ghost? Matt has no chance at all of being hired by Ramsay. He has the least talent and the highest record of screw-ups. I think they kept him around this long for comic relief only.



I can't argue with your assessment. I believe the final two will be Corey and either Bobby or Petrozza. Matt should have been gone long ago, but he reminds me of Aaron who passed out last year, finally ending his stay long past when he should have been cut. (He like Matt and the fellow with the bad hair piece this year, should never have been put on the show to begin with.)

I hope that next year we see more qualified chefs. (I tried to convince my cousin to apply, he would have been good for drama.)  :angel:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on May 31, 2008, 01:43:14 PM

.... further to scarsonefan's post there seems to show some difference in the odd's for final 2

For the direct link to betED.com click here: http://www.beted.com/lines.aspx?l=PROP (http://www.beted.com/lines.aspx?l=PROP)

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 04, 2008, 09:18:31 AM
I watched the worst episode of Hell's Kitchen 4 last night. It was a worthless experience. What were Ramsay and the producers of HK4 thinking? I know that the primary reason for this is the lack of talent and experience in the chefs chosen. Who in the group of Bobby, Jen, Corey, Petrozza and Christina really impresses? My answer is NONE OF THE ABOVE. Ramsay said there are no favorites right now (he got that right!) but I will go further and state that after last night I have gone way past my tolerance level for all the B.S. prevelant on this show. The one person who knows what he is doing, Ramsay, compounds the problems with his behavior(usually created with a purpose but I could not find one last night for several of his actions).
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: rosesrred on June 04, 2008, 01:22:28 PM
I watched the worst episode of Hell's Kitchen 4 last night. It was a worthless experience. What were Ramsay and the producers of HK4 thinking? I know that the primary reason for this is the lack of talent and experience in the chefs chosen. Who in the group of Bobby, Jen, Corey, Petrozza and Christina really impresses? My answer is NONE OF THE ABOVE. Ramsay said there are no favorites right now (he got that right!) but I will go further and state that after last night I have gone way past my tolerance level for all the B.S. prevelant on this show. The one person who knows what he is doing, Ramsay, compounds the problems with his behavior(usually created with a purpose but I could not find one last night for several of his actions).

What confuses me is that they bring dishes to Ramsay that he seems to "love" and then when it comes to cooking in a kitchen with others they are all like "rats running around with their heads cut off" and they seem to forget how to boil water or cook rice.  I can't imagine who will win this thing and then can't help but feel sorry for Ramsay when that person has to run his kitchen here in LA.  I'll maybe think twice about stepping in that restaurant  :lol:  Gee this whole show is a mess and doesn't seem to be getting any better  :duno: and that's no pun for Petrozza  :funny:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 04, 2008, 08:15:45 PM
TV Guide has the scoop on what will happen next week:

The 5 remaining chefs give gourmet-cooking lessons to housewives. The women I saw in the preview did not look like ordinary housewives. They looked like those Housewives of Orange County!
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: BballKates on June 05, 2008, 04:39:56 PM
This show is not about cooking. If you compare it to a the other cooking show out there Top Chef these chefs are a joke. I think the show is more about who can handle the pressure, be a leader, improve and has the ability to run a restaurant. As much as it is about cooking I think he is looking for something else besides just cooking skills.

My prediction is that Cory or Bobby will win. I think Jen will go next, then Christina and Petrozza.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on June 05, 2008, 07:44:01 PM
Two videos from the next episode. They do look like OC Housewives but not THE housewives. LOL

(Edited: I apologize, it appears the videos were removed from YouTube.)

Fox Network has previews of the episodes.  http://www.fox.com/Hellskitchen/

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 05, 2008, 07:53:35 PM
Thanks, TexasLady for the informative previews. I know where to find them but am too lazy. When you offer it up nice and easy with a link, I click it and watch.

BballKates, I totally agree with you right down to the order of elimination, but it might be Christina before Jen.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on June 05, 2008, 09:39:54 PM
Thanks, TexasLady for the informative previews. I know where to find them but am too lazy. When you offer it up nice and easy with a link, I click it and watch.

BballKates, I totally agree with you right down to the order of elimination, but it might be Christina before Jen.

I'm glad to contribute then if it helps! Small payback for your excellent recaps.  :-*

I'm agree with you, Christina could go next, she was flustered this week, Ramsey gave her a heads up with the comment about needing more experience. Jen is strong in some ways and I wondered if Ramsey gave her the trip to Vegas over Christina as a reward for her hard work, she won't win or even be in the finals, in my opinion.

(I thought I posted about this but I must be losing my mind or somewhere online is a post about Hell's Kitchen in some strange topic. If you spot it let me know will ya?)   :crazy:


Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 07, 2008, 02:50:48 AM
TV Guide has the scoop on what will happen next week: The 5 remaining chefs give gourmet-cooking lessons to housewives.


.... further to the TV Guide scoop

Top Chefs Mark Peele and Ben Ford Appear

Chef Ramsay challenges the chefs to teach cooking-impaired housewives how to create a gourmet meal.

While the losers are forced to clean the kitchen,

the winner is treated to a one-on-one course with two world-renowned chefs: Mark Peele and Ben Ford.

The remaining five chefs then face a hectic night as they struggle to balance a dozen appetizers, entrees and desserts.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 07, 2008, 02:58:16 AM

A quick update from betED.com, it appears as of today's date Bobby followed by Corey are in favour to win

Christina +180   
Corey +115   
Jen +1700   
Bobby +100   
Petrozza +1100

Source: Click here: http://www.beted.com/lines.aspx?l=PROP (http://www.beted.com/lines.aspx?l=PROP)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: BballKates on June 07, 2008, 02:34:36 PM
I'm surprised that Jen has the worst odds but I think her attitude will do her in next week. I don't think she works as hard as Christina. At the same time this may sound weird and it is not meant to sound racist but do you think an black male would win two years in row?
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on June 07, 2008, 04:32:20 PM
BbK: I'm not sure, it isn't racist but Bobby MIGHT have the talent but we don't know because we haven't been shown that he can indeed run a kitchen. I can only recall one time when he stepped up and took over. He also went to the dorm and got Petrozza back on track when Petrozza felt that he couldn't learn the menu. (Wow that was a LONG time ago wasn't it!) I did feel like he COULD lead a kitchen at that moment, but we just don't see it. Heather was a standout from the beginning of season 2, Rock last year.

It would be amusing if the black Gordon Ramsey won. (According to Bobby, that was his title.)  :lol: 

The odds have changed I see. (Thanks Ca for posting them!) If I read them right, it was Corey who had the best odds to win, wonder what changed. I know NOTHING about betting or odds.

I wonder who will get the meat station in next Tuesday's episode. That's the test for Ramsey's blood pressure. I am glad we didn't get a heads-up that someone was injured especially when you see the way Christina's trophy wife studen is using her knife!  :groan:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 07, 2008, 09:27:18 PM
Bobby has demonstrated that he is the best of a weak group of chefs by not making many errors rather than by dominating the competition. He has not done that much positive, but he has avoided the meat undercooked, meat overcooked, fish raw disasters that all of the others have had. Bobby's main negative is how he did in the first episode before he decided to change his tactics and the fact that he has been totally mediocre on the challenges.

Would I hire him to run a restaurant if I had one? I would, but I would not be paying him even $100,000 per year because he isn't worth it. What happens to chefs who get the big first-year bucks and then find out that they are masssively overpriced? I'll bet this has been an issue for Ramsay with Heather and Rock.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 08, 2008, 07:28:59 AM

At the same time this may sound weird and it is not meant to sound racist but do you think an black male would win two years in row?


 :groan: lol BballKates

Yes I think a black male would win two years in a row, just like a white chef had also won the first two years in a row  :res:

Bobby is a contender in this season he has a degree in the culinary arts from Niagara County Community College

He has been working in the industry since age 16 so he does have a lot of experience

He also has a possible book deal and opportunities to work in several restaurants across the country

If Bobby doesn't win this season he will still be a successful chef



Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: BballKates on June 08, 2008, 12:41:45 PM
Hey I speak my mind, nothing wrong with that. It is clear on these cooking shows there is a male bias. Between Hells Kitchen and Top Chef only one women has won.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 08, 2008, 01:30:16 PM
I think Ramsay is color-blind and gender-blind. He values talent. As I have stated previously, I think Bobby is in the best position to win. So, yes we should see a second black male chef win, although it also could be a female. I don't think Petrozza has a very good chance because of his kitchen cleanliness. Ramsay values his honesty in assessing other chefs, but that will not carry over into a win for Petrozza because little else has been demonstrated.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: BballKates on June 08, 2008, 04:57:51 PM
Based on the edits of the show I don't get the impression that Bobby will be or is going to be the winner. And I think your absolutely right about Chef Ramsay. As I said I didn't mean for it to sound racist I just think it is interesting that two very similar chefs could win in back to back seasons.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 11, 2008, 05:54:26 AM

 :ascared the online betting site is down, gee I wonder why  :funny: Bobbbbyyyy

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 11, 2008, 05:59:41 AM

.... on a postive note, the ratings are good  ;)

Off to its best start in four years, the NBA Finals slam-dunked the competish for ABC on two nights last week, but a more consistent Fox -- paced by its midweek reality hits -- led once again among young adults.

Fox made it 22 consecutive victories in the adults 18-49 demo, as "Hell's Kitchen"
and both nights of "So You Think You Can Dance" delivered the week's top numbers outside of hoops action.

According to Nielsen estimates that include same-night DVR playback, Fox's 2.5 rating/8 share in 18-49 topped ABC's 2.2/7, with NBC third (1.9/6), followed by CBS (1.7/5), Univision (1.3/4) and USA (0.8/2).

Fox also led in adults 25-54 (2.6/8) and persons 12-34 (2.3/8), while CBS led in total viewers (7.2 million vs. 6.5 million for runner-up Fox).

Improved numbers this year for both the NBA Finals and hockey's Stanley Cup Finals on NBC helped the broadcast networks achieve something they haven't done at all in 2008: outperform the same week of a year ago. The major nets and CW were up a combined 5% in both 18-49 and total viewers vs. the second summer frame of 2007.

Meanwhile, final averages for the 2007-08 season that include all same-week DVR playback show that Fox won by a slightly larger margin than previously reported. The net's 4.3 rating in 18-49 reps a 5% improvement over the 2006-07 season and was a whopping 43% ahead of ABC and CBS (both at a 3.0).

Looking at Fox's week, "Hell's Kitchen" (4.4/12 in 18-49, 9.36 million viewers overall) continues to impress, whipping up its best scores to date for an episode that wasn't a season finale or that didn't follow "American Idol." Tuesday lead-in "Moment of Truth" also led its timeslot (2.7/9, 2.76m), and the net was also tough with "So You Think You Can Dance" on both Wednesday (3.7/11 in 18-49, 9.56m) and Thursday (3.3/10, 9.25m).
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 11, 2008, 07:31:03 AM
Bobby went down in flames in episode 11, although Petrozza and Jen both tried to show even poorer results. Christina and Corey showed the teamwork that hsa been sorely lacking. Perhaps because they are the youngest in the competition(except for Jen being younger than Corey), they have worked well together and their teamwork has paid off in really good results. Christina won both the Cooking School challenge and the main dinner service last night. Corey was a close second both times.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on June 11, 2008, 07:51:46 AM
I must say, last night was a shocker. I didn't see this coming. I have to say, I cannot stand Christina, and her comment about Jen not being a team player was a hoot! Has Christina ever helped Jen or anyone else in the kitchen? Not that I've noticed, she is as self centered as Jen but more subtle.

Corey and Christina for final two? ???
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 11, 2008, 10:03:13 AM

 :groan: Ramsay choosing Jen over Bobby must be purely for the drama she makes on HK

I can’t take another day of listening to her as I’m sure we all are tired of it  blahblah
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 11, 2008, 10:24:06 AM
.... next week on HK

IT'S THE MOTHER OF ALL CHALLENGES ON "HELL'S KITCHEN" TUESDAY, JUNE 17, ON FOX

The final four contestants prepare a specialty lunch for some surprise guests Chef Ramsay has invited to Hell's Kitchen.

When the doors open, 80 very hungry, very picky and very pregnant moms-to-be walk through the door!

The ladies choose the best dish and send the winner on a $1000 shopping spree.

The remaining chefs are forced to stay behind and clean up after the luncheon.

During dinner service tempers flare and tension is high,

and one contestant gets careless and burns Chef Ramsay's hand,

which sends Ramsay over the edge in the "4 Chefs Compete" episode of HELL'S KITCHEN
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: BballKates on June 14, 2008, 11:08:59 AM
I thought Jen would go first. However, I think Bobby did nothing to stand out while he was on the show. Case in point the very first episode where he was willing to sit back and watch everyone else in the kitchen and not take charge. He was far too laid back and thought he could fly under the radar and win. Seriously, what had he proven that he hadn't messed up yet? So what? I think you have to mess up and hear it from Chef Ramsay to be in the running. He wants someone that takes the punches and is still standing. The other four have done that better even Petrozza who has been man enough to admit when he has done poorly. Bobby was arrogant from the get go and it may have done him well to be a bit more vocal and assertive.

My prediction is that it comes down to Corey and Christina.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: smitty37 on June 17, 2008, 01:14:29 PM
They should take these shows on the road like they do with America's Got Talent...they'd probably get even more diverse contestants on there.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 17, 2008, 05:07:34 PM
You missed the announcement today that TopChef(not Hell's Kitchen which doesn't have the depth of chef talent to pull it off) is doing just that. TopChef has talented graduates if the show placed around the country and there will be a 48 foot mobile studio to support them. Here is the article from Buddy TV:

'Top Chef' Hits the Road by Rosario Santiago
Tuesday, June 17, 2008
              
In the tradition of other reality shows like American Idol, Dancing with the Stars and So You Think You Can Dance, which have all taken their contenders on the road, Bravo is likewise sending its Top Chefs out of the kitchen and straight to the hungry folk of 20 cities across America.  Traveling aboard its very own official 18-wheeler semi-truck, Top Chef: The Tour hits the road starting this Saturday, June 21.  Its first stop is the Whole Foods Market of the Birchwood Shopping Center in Jericho, Long Island, New York.

Here's a list of all the other cities on the Top Chef Tour route and the dates for each stop:

July 1: Boston, MA
July 4: Philadelphia, PA
July 9: Pittsburgh, PA
July 12: Columbus, OH
July 16: St. Louis, MO
July 19: Denver, CO
July 26: Phoenix, AZ
July 30: San Diego, CA
Aug. 2 & 3: San Francisco, CA
August 8: Los Angeles, CA
August 16: Des Moines, IA
August 23: Detroit, MI
August 27: Madison, WI
Sept. 3 & 4: Chicago, IL
September 13: Raleigh, NC
September 20: Tampa, FL
September 24: Orlando, FL
September 27: Atlanta, GA
TBD: New York, NY

At each stopover, select Top Cheftestants will host a total of four live interactive shows, covering everything from the obligatory cooking demonstrations (Top Chef being a cooking skill competition and all), gourmet pointers, show secrets, and of course, perhaps the most anticipated part of them all, the food sampling.  Of the four shows, three will be conducted for attending fans while the remaining other will be held privately for cable affiliates.

All tour shows will emanate directly from the specially-commissioned 48-foot long, self-sufficient Top Chef Tour truck.  Furnished with its own state-of-the-art kitchen, the monster vehicle seats 38 guests at any one time but can address as many as 300 in an open-air setup.  Either way, the HD cameras on board deliver all the Top Chef live shows to more viewers via the accompanying 42” HD screens.

"We're excited to provide our cable affiliates and food enthusiasts with an interactive gourmet cooking experience from cable's number one food show," Brian Hunt, NBC Universal's senior vice president for Marketing & Sales Strategy of their TV Networks Distribution, said.  "This tour is a unique promotional opportunity designed to bring the hit series to life for fans throughout the country."

Those interested to attend the Top Chef Tour series may log on to www.bravotv.com/thetour to sign up for free admission.

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on June 17, 2008, 05:31:46 PM
DARN! Nothing close to me. Maybe Hell's Kitchen can tour as well. They should have a double-wide trailer though so Chef Ramsey can throw things safely. (Washable walls as well.)  :tup:

OK! Who do we think put the pan over the flame and burned Chef's hand? (or hands) Jen comes to mind as my first and obvious choice since the rice pan incident, but since she described it without crying I don't think it was her. I think Christina.

We'll know in 2 1/2 + hours.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on June 17, 2008, 09:46:10 PM
Predictable, but sad for me because I am probably the only Jen fan in America, possibly in the world. Wait, there are 2 of us because she likes herself a lot! :lol: I liked her spunk, her ups and downs in her camera chats.

Petrozza and who for final 2? Corey most likely. Any one care to make a prediction as to winner?

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: puddin on June 17, 2008, 10:39:52 PM
Christina will probably win (snore)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 17, 2008, 11:39:12 PM
It's still anybody's game. Any one of the Final 3 can be eliminated in next week's episode. Corey and Christina make mistakes. Petrozza doesn't make many(if there was an invitation to mistakes it is the meat station that he ran flawlessly tonight). Either Christina or Corey should get assigned the meat station next week. Someone will get fish and someone appetizers. Possibly MaryAnn and Scott will handle veggies and all will shift to desserts at the proper time.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on June 18, 2008, 09:22:35 AM
I have to ask if anyone else had burned Ramsey's hand not once but twice the same exact way, would he have reacted the say way?  :lol:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 18, 2008, 11:17:42 AM
Christina did burn Ramsay's hand twice in the exact same way! His relatively mild reaction was indicative of the fact that he wanted to keep her in the competition by not spooking her. That was to assure that he would not have to allow Jen to make it to the Final 3, a fate which nobody would wish on a decent guy like Gordon Ramsay.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on June 18, 2008, 12:14:19 PM
Christina did burn Ramsay's hand twice in the exact same way! His relatively mild reaction was indicative of the fact that he wanted to keep her in the competition by not spooking her. That was to assure that he would not have to allow Jen to make it to the Final 3, a fate which nobody would wish on a decent guy like Gordon Ramsay.

Well.........  :angel: Seriously, Jen could not run a kitchen. Even Petrozza had something bad to say about her last night which surprised me because he generally does not comment on the other chefs.

Honestly, I just cannot see anyone remotely capable of running a kitchen now other than Petrozza. Corey, yes after she gets more experience, Christina also has an excellent  future but she needs time as Ramsey pointed out to her a few episodes back.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 18, 2008, 01:12:45 PM
I quite agree about Petrozza being in the lead right now. The big advantage Petrozza has is that Ramsay is looking for an executive chef who will work under his occasional in-person direction. What is most important in that environment is that when Ramsay is away(most of the the time) from Hollywood London West, he will be able to trust Petrozza to give him the straight story. Neither Corey nor Christina have the wisdom that Petrozza have although they appear to be about equal in culinary talent. I am waiting to see which individual should get the dreaded meat station next week. I expect that it will not be Petrozza. I also expect that either Corey or Christina could be overwhelmed by that station and that whoever is lucky enough to not get it will face Petrozza in the Final 2.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 19, 2008, 10:16:14 PM
.... next week on Hell's Kitchen

SURPRISE GUESTS LEAD TO A SURPRISE CHALLENGE FOR TOP 3 CHEFS ON HELL'S KITCHEN

Chef Ramsay surprises the Final 3 chefs by bringing in a few special guests to join them for a breakfast he prepared.

After the guests leave, Ramsay asks the chefs to recreate the signature dish they just ate.

This challenge throws a couple of the chefs off their game, which leads to them scrambling in the kitchen.

During the dinner service, Ramsay hands over the reins of HELL'S KITCHEN to each of the Final 3 and the chefs each take a turn running the hot plate.

But Ramsay and his sous chef purposely start sabotaging dinner to see how the chefs react in the "3 Chefs Compete" episode of HELL'S KITCHEN
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 20, 2008, 07:05:23 AM
bb ca fan,
That sabotage is a standard for the final few of each Hell's Kitchen season. Scott typically does most the the dirty work, with Gordon Ramsay himself doing a little. Any of these chefs who have failed to watch prior seasons and to deduce that they can expect this sabotage are complete fools who deserve to lose.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on June 20, 2008, 08:27:25 AM
bb ca fan,
That sabotage is a standard for the final few of each Hell's Kitchen season. Scott typically does most the the dirty work, with Gordon Ramsay himself doing a little. Any of these chefs who have failed to watch prior seasons and to deduce that they can expect this sabotage are complete fools who deserve to lose.

Thanks Ca for the preview.  :yess:

You are so right Apskip, they do it every year, but I had forgotten. I really REALLY cannot wait to see who it is that Petrozza yells at! (And I see nothing wrong with it if it is appropriate for the situation.)

I also believe that Petrozza saying Christina should leave is just a diversion for us to chew on while we wait for next week's episode.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 21, 2008, 06:25:49 AM
An excerpt from today's Newark Star-Ledger on Gordon Ramsay:

"The inquiry heard evidence that the volatile chef and restauranteur used a favorite curse word 80 times in a 40 minute episode. In Australia, racy programming is usually aired uncut after 830pm.
 Ramsay's response yesterday? Don't watch if you don't like the lingo."

Now, aren't you glad(NOT) that we have censorship here in the U.S. to keep us pure while such baloney is flying?
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 21, 2008, 02:35:31 PM
An excerpt from today's Newark Star-Ledger on Gordon Ramsay:

"The inquiry heard evidence that the volatile chef and restauranteur used a favorite curse word 80 times in a 40 minute episode. In Australia, racy programming is usually aired uncut after 830pm.
 Ramsay's response yesterday? Don't watch if you don't like the lingo."

Now, aren't you glad(NOT) that we have censorship here in the U.S. to keep us pure while such baloney is flying?

Thanks apskip I did read the Associated Press article.

I don't think Ramsay's choice of words is what is ruining our society.

I agree with Ramsay's response.



Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 21, 2008, 02:43:51 PM
bb ca fan,
That sabotage is a standard for the final few of each Hell's Kitchen season. Scott typically does most the the dirty work, with Gordon Ramsay himself doing a little. Any of these chefs who have failed to watch prior seasons and to deduce that they can expect this sabotage are complete fools who deserve to lose.


ha ha ha I'm laughing apskip I can't wait to see which complete fool fails as his prey.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: Belle Book on June 22, 2008, 05:12:28 PM
I'm willing to bet Corey will fall for the trap.  Christina is a recent graduate of culinary school or a culinary student (I'm not certain which) and probably inexperienced, so she might fall for it as well.  I doubt Petrozza will fall for it, but who knows?

Belle Book
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on June 23, 2008, 05:52:44 PM
I'm willing to bet Corey will fall for the trap.  Christina is a recent graduate of culinary school or a culinary student (I'm not certain which) and probably inexperienced, so she might fall for it as well.  I doubt Petrozza will fall for it, but who knows?

Belle Book


Interesting comment Belle, it COULD be that's why Petrozza goes ballistic, he caught the bad food. Can't wait for tomorrow night.  :tup:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 23, 2008, 06:15:42 PM

I really REALLY cannot wait to see who it is that Petrozza yells at! (And I see nothing wrong with it if it is appropriate for the situation.)

it COULD be that's why Petrozza goes ballistic, he caught the bad food. Can't wait for tomorrow night.  :tup:


TL did I miss a preview I don't know where you saw Petrozza yelling at someone or goes ballistic

I did see Petrozza role playing prior to the Hot Plate challenge.

Ramsay always makes them role play before the challenge to see what they got before the challenge begins

So is that what your referring to.

I can see Ramsay coaching Petrozza during that. It's just for fun, it's role playing.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: careybear on June 23, 2008, 06:20:15 PM
I am really rooting for Corey, I know she has been a little spinless but I really hope she goes all the way
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 23, 2008, 10:37:19 PM
ca bb fan,
You might be right about Ramsay having the role-playing involving reprimanding him. It's so incredibly hokey that it is worthless. However, my memory tells me that it occurs in in Final 2, not Final 3, in Season 3. Only Bonnie and Rock were involved.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 23, 2008, 11:31:07 PM
ca bb fan,
You might be right about Ramsay having the role-playing involving reprimanding him. It's so incredibly hokey that it is worthless. However, my memory tells me that it occurs in in Final 2, not Final 3, in Season 3. Only Bonnie and Rock were involved.

You know apskip I still don’t know if there is another preview that’s out there but I’m only going by the one on HK’s site the second preview clip.

I agree it’s hokey. Petrozza does not sound like a leader a professional in charge but rather just yelling ineffectively.

From the second video clip here is what was said. I see it as role playing. Petrozza is clearly yelling at Ramsay trying to run the kitchen.

Petrozza yelling: I told you to cook one off ahead of time, period. You should have had one cooked earlier
Ramsay says: So why didn’t you check it
Petrozza yelling: It’s not my job to check it. It’s your job to check it. Do your job and do it now
Ramsay says: I got the message

I believe Ramsay will have the final 3 role play in this episode based on the preview clip and episode summary that I already posted earlier.

Posted  below is a summary of the final 3 episodes, no surprise there.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 23, 2008, 11:37:12 PM
Episode 13

SURPRISE GUESTS LEAD TO A SURPRISE CHALLENGE FOR TOP 3 CHEFS ON "HELL'S KITCHEN" TUESDAY, JUNE 24, ON FOX

Chef Ramsay surprises the Final 3 chefs by bringing in a few special guests to join them for a breakfast he prepared. After the guests leave, Ramsay asks the chefs to recreate the signature dish they just ate. This challenge throws a couple of the chefs off their game, which leads to them scrambling in the kitchen. During the dinner service, Ramsay hands over the reins of HELL'S KITCHEN to each of the Final 3 and the chefs each take a turn running the hot plate. But Ramsay and his sous chef purposely start sabotaging dinner to see how the chefs react in the "3 Chefs Compete" episode of HELL'S KITCHEN


Episode 14

THE FINAL TWO COOK FOR THEIR LIVES ON "HELL'S KITCHEN" TUESDAY JULY 1, ON FOX

Whoopi Goldberg to Make Special Guest Appearance

The final two chefs have survived the wrath of Ramsay and many disastrous nights in HELL'S KITCHEN and are rewarded with a trip to New York City to visit Gordon Ramsay at The London New York. It's not all fun and games, however, and the chefs are asked to prepare their signature dishes to be judged by Chef Ramsay's five executive chefs from around the world. When they head back to HELL'S KITCHEN, the final two begin the journey to design and run their own restaurant. From the menu to the dcor, they must prove their skill and passion to win over Chef Ramsay in the "2 Chefs Compete" episode of HELL'S KITCHEN


Episode 15   Season Finale

IT'S THE FINAL SHOWDOWN ON THE SEASON FINALE OF "HELL'S KITCHEN" TUESDAY JULY 8, ON FOX

Winner to Receive Coveted Prize of a Senior Chef Position at Gordon Ramsay at The London West Hollywood

The final two chefs are one dinner service away from being crowned the winner of HELL'S KITCHEN. The chefs have selected their staff, created the menus and chosen the dcor. After some final words of advice from Chef Ramsay, the doors of HELL'S KITCHEN are open. As the orders start coming in, both teams are off to a slow start with the kitchens running out of food and appetizers being served cold. The final two need to slice and dice their way to the top to prove to Chef Ramsay they have what it takes to work in his restaurant on the season finale of HELL'S KITCHEN
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on June 24, 2008, 10:36:00 AM
TL did I miss a preview I don't know where you saw Petrozza yelling at someone or goes ballistic

I did see Petrozza role playing prior to the Hot Plate challenge.

Ramsay always makes them role play before the challenge to see what they got before the challenge begins

So is that what your referring to.

I can see Ramsay coaching Petrozza during that. It's just for fun, it's role playing.

Oh Poo.. you might be right, I was referring to the preview at the end of last week's show, which of course was for the drama of it all so we'll be sure to watch tonight.  :snicker:

They fly to New York!! Interesting! Thanks for posting the info Ca.  :jumpy:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 24, 2008, 11:31:33 AM
Update:

Schedule Change 2 Back To Back Episodes

If you missed last week's episode of Hell's Kitchen, then you have a second chance to catch up

Instead of The Moment Of Truth, FOX is re-airing last week's episode 12 of Hell's Kitchen in the 8 PM ET Tuesday time slot

As well as episode 13 at it's original time slot of 9 PM ET

 
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 24, 2008, 03:24:33 PM
Update:

Schedule Change 2 Back To Back Episodes

If you missed last week's episode of Hell's Kitchen, then you have a second chance to catch up

Instead of The Moment Of Truth, FOX is re-airing last week's episode 13 of Hell's Kitchen in the 8 PM ET Tuesday time slot

As well as episode 14 at it's original time slot of 9 PM ET
Interesting, but isn't last week's episode #12? Consult your post#240 above for clarification. This is a totally minor issue. What's important is that they are doing the replay tonight at  8pm EDT.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 24, 2008, 08:10:15 PM

Interesting, but isn't last week's episode #12? Consult your post#240 above for clarification. This is a totally minor issue. What's important is that they are doing the replay tonight at  8pm EDT.


Thanks apskip  :<3 enjoy the shows
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: puddin on June 24, 2008, 09:34:40 PM
Corey's gone. Between Petrozza & Christina, my moneys on the girl   :tup:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on June 24, 2008, 09:43:48 PM
Corey's gone. Between Petrozza & Christina, my moneys on the girl   :tup:

I just don't know! She makes more mistakes than Petrozza, but she has won the last 3 challenges and I give it to her for knowing that the dish Chef Ramsey cooked would probably be a challenge and detecting that there was a sauce involved.

OTOH, she does go to pieces.   :duno: :duno: :duno:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: BballKates on June 24, 2008, 10:03:34 PM
This is a really tough call. And I think that Corey's down fall was that she would be a better assistant chef than a head chef. She worked well with people on a team but it was clear that she was not able to take control and be a leader.

Petrozza has the experience but seems lazy and often forgetful. Christina has less experience and sometimes has trouble bouncing back but has stepped up to the challenge and really proved she can cook.

I don't know who is going to win. I'm going to give a slight edge to Christina because I think she has made mistakes yes but not made as many silly mistakes as Petrozza. I also think Christina can grow a lot more and Petrozza may have already hit his culinary prime particularly in relation to Christina. Gosh I don't know....

Anyone got any spoilers.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 24, 2008, 10:12:20 PM
I will only say that Petrozza got in on his consistency in spite of his failure to detect the missing peas. Once that happened, the other two would have overheard what happened and known what to do to avoid that type of mistake. Unfortunately, Corey fell into the trap. Christina did not and was very lucky. Christina performed very poorly on the fish station but he did get her 3rd consecutive win on the challenges, which I think led Ramsay to conclude that she has more culinary talent than Corey.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: BballKates on June 24, 2008, 11:02:08 PM
I will only say that Petrozza got in on his consistency in spite of his failure to detect the missing peas. Once that happened, the other two would have overheard what happened and known what to do to avoid that type of mistake. Unfortunately, Corey fell into the trap. Christina did not and was very lucky. Christina performed very poorly on the fish station but he did get her 3rd consecutive win on the challenges, which I think led Ramsay to conclude that she has more culinary talent than Corey.

That and I think it was very clearly tonight that Corey is not a leader despite being a great team player.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on June 25, 2008, 02:18:04 PM
Apskip, I believe you have more experience with restaurants and running a kitchen than most of us, who would you give the nod to?



Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on June 25, 2008, 02:54:36 PM
My experience is half-owner briefly of a restaurant and frequent fine dining all over Europe and parts of the U.S. I like Petrozza. He is stable and steady and has managerial experience and lots of kitchen experience. Also, he has the respect of Gordon Ramsay, which none of the other contestants ever developed, based on his truthful and accurate assessments whenever Ramsay asked for them. The prize is his to lose.

Christina shows great potential but she has no present experience in managing a kitchen. She has loads of culinary talent, which is why she made it to the Final 2. however, there is no substitute for the experience and I doubt Ramsay would take a risk on her.

To some extent it is a little like last year with Rock(more kitchen experience) vs. Bonnie(little kitchen experience). More kitchen experience won; there wasn't any significant difference in their actual running of the kitchens in the Finale that I could discern.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on June 26, 2008, 05:35:33 PM
Update:

Gordon Ramsay was in attendance for Nelson Mendela's 90th Birthday dinner celebrations

Images of Ramsay are in the link below:

http://www.dlisted.com/node/26794/images/mandelaramsay.jpg (http://www.dlisted.com/node/26794/images/mandelaramsay.jpg)

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=1&language=en-US&family=editorial&p=gordon%20ramsay&src=standard#1 (http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=1&language=en-US&family=editorial&p=gordon%20ramsay&src=standard#1)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on June 26, 2008, 09:33:33 PM
My experience is half-owner briefly of a restaurant and frequent fine dining all over Europe and parts of the U.S. I like Petrozza. He is stable and steady and has managerial experience and lots of kitchen experience. Also, he has the respect of Gordon Ramsay, which none of the other contestants ever developed, based on his truthful and accurate assessments whenever Ramsay asked for them. The prize is his to lose.

Christina shows great potential but she has no present experience in managing a kitchen. She has loads of culinary talent, which is why she made it to the Final 2. however, there is no substitute for the experience and I doubt Ramsay would take a risk on her.

To some extent it is a little like last year with Rock(more kitchen experience) vs. Bonnie(little kitchen experience). More kitchen experience won; there wasn't any significant difference in their actual running of the kitchens in the Finale that I could discern.

Thanks for your insight. The prize is his to lose. That says it all Apskip.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on July 02, 2008, 08:45:08 AM
Last night's episode had Petrozza beating Christina 3-2 in a challenge to prepare their signature dishes. Petrozza's win gave him the first pick of helpers. He chose Bobby. Christina chose Corey. He chose Ben. She chose Louross. that leaves Matt and Jen.  This presents a Hobson's choice(essentially the lesser of the two evils). The epsiode ended before that decision was presented. I think Petrozza is coming from behind and has to pick Jen in spite of the major risks she poses.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on July 02, 2008, 09:12:54 AM
Last night's episode had Petrozza beating Christina 3-2 in a challenge to prepare their signature dishes. Petrozza's win gave him the first pick of helpers. He chose Bobby. Christina chose Corey. He chose Ben. She chose Louross. that leaves Matt and Jen.  This presents a Hobson's choice(essentially the lesser of the two evils). The epsiode ended before that decision was presented. I think Petrozza is coming from behind and has to pick Jen in spite of the major risks she poses.

Hobson's choice indeed. I didn't think Petrozza had any good choices with the possible exception of Bobby who really was not shown to be a mess in the kitchen unlike Matt.

Christina probably got the better of the bunch, Corey would not work her heart out for Petrozza whereas she will for Christina, they do make a good team. Louross is not a klutz, he can do well.

Jen is the wild card, I think she will work harder for Petrozza than she would for Christina. Matt is a mess, but he'll probably do better for Christina.

I had to laugh about the restaurant themes, Christina chose stripes then said she hates stripes and had to come up with a solution. (Crisis management testing?)  I'm also thinking that the fireplace being too large was also a test to see if she would give up space. It makes no sense that they could not have found a smaller one.

Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: BballKates on July 03, 2008, 10:37:14 AM
I despise Jen and it is clear that she is extremely bitter and still thinks she is better than everyone. I have a feeling she is going to be a huge liability for whomever she cooks for, she has a crappy attitude and I think that is going to destroy either Petrozza or Christina's chance to win.

Which really sucks a lot!
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on July 03, 2008, 12:28:55 PM
The one thing working to promote a harmonious team player approach by Jen in the Finale part 2 is that she is on film as a nasty, mean bitch who has no concept of team player. Wouldn't it benefit her future a great deal to show that she can be an effective team player when the gravity of the situation warrants. The question is whether Jen has the minimal intelligence to be able to figure out what I just stated. I hope so for the sake of whichever finalist gets her.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on July 03, 2008, 12:40:59 PM
If I were Petrozza, I'd pick her and then tell her, look, you had trouble with the other team from day one but I believe in you. I want you to be a team player for me, cook your heart out as I know you can and show the world what you can do. (Stroke her ego.)

Nothing on God's green earth can help Matt.  :badhorse:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on July 04, 2008, 03:32:23 PM
The one thing working to promote a harmonious team player approach by Jen in the Finale part 2 is that she is on film as a nasty, mean bitch who has no concept of team player. Wouldn't it benefit her future a great deal to show that she can be an effective team player when the gravity of the situation warrants. The question is whether Jen has the minimal intelligence to be able to figure out what I just stated. I hope so for the sake of whichever finalist gets her.

Nasty mean bitch is right apskip she absolutely lacks the attributes of a team player 
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: BballKates on July 04, 2008, 08:45:47 PM
Jen is stupid she will mess it up! Not once has she ever given the impression that she cares about anyone but herself.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on July 04, 2008, 09:44:50 PM
If not Jen, then the only one left then is Matt...  :ascared
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: puddin on July 08, 2008, 08:57:21 PM
Cristina WINS  :wohoo:! Thats my girl  :yess: :jumpy:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: BballKates on July 08, 2008, 09:22:11 PM
I'm shocked but very happy! I'm just watching now so I will be curious to see why he picked her. But I really believe that he sees more potential and growth in a 25 year old than a 47 year old. Frankly if Petrozza was that talented he would have gotten somewhere by now there is a reason he is 47 years old and just runs a catering business. I think he lacks organizational skills and doesn't seem as focused. That may have made Chef Ramsay nervous.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on July 08, 2008, 09:50:01 PM
Cristina WINS  :wohoo:! Thats my girl  :yess: :jumpy:

I knew Puddin would be happy!  :hearts:

BBKates, I think you hit it. I was surprised as well. I believe he sees more potential in Christina and he worked with her and observed her work while all we saw was edited.

Petrozza doesn't appear to plan ahead, he seems to go wobbly for a bit. Even Jen commented on the lack of a menu for them as a guide and no prep work done. Hopefully he will do well and take this experience and put it to good use.

Congratulations to Christina!  :tup:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on July 08, 2008, 10:12:29 PM
I don't think I watched the same show as Gordon Ramsay, so the comment cards were probably heavily in Christina's favor (although the filmed ones certiainly seemed to favor Petrozza). If Ramsay wanted to make the decision on "potential" why bother for 15 episodes? I could have told him at the beginning based on the credentials of each of the chefs that Christina had way more potential than Petrozza. They both did a good job of runing their kitchens. I thought the nod should have gone to Petrozza.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: BballKates on July 08, 2008, 10:44:49 PM
I think his lack of preparation was his downfall. At times in the last two episodes he seemed lost.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: marigold on July 09, 2008, 11:59:55 PM

It's been a terrific season guys I had a blast with all of you

A heads up for next season:

Hell's Kitchen 5 will be returning on a new day and time Thursdays at 8:00 PM


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Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TARAsia Fan on July 10, 2008, 12:08:25 AM
I didn't know we had a thread for this! I watched the show on Fox, then again online, then again on Sundays on Fox Reality Channel. Goodness! I'll have to make sure to talk the show with you all next season.

I thought Christina deserved the win. Petrozza certainly didn't lose by much. But Jen is just plain awful! I hated her attitude this season. But I really think Corey would have been a better choice for the final.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: puddin on July 10, 2008, 12:11:55 AM
I didn't know we had a thread for this! I watched the show on Fox, then again online, then again on Sundays on Fox Reality Channel. Goodness! I'll have to make sure to talk the show with you all next season.

I thought Christina deserved the win. Petrozza certainly didn't lose by much. But Jen is just plain awful! I hated her attitude this season. But I really think Corey would have been a better choice for the final.
My selfish fear was that if Corey were in the final 2 she would have won shutting out my gal Christina.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TARAsia Fan on July 10, 2008, 12:13:26 AM
They should bring back Jen every season to sabotage one finalist. She's perfect for that.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: puddin on July 10, 2008, 12:23:15 AM
They should bring back Jen every season to sabotage one finalist. She's perfect for that.
It was so frustrating to watch Jen & Matt's performance. I would swear they were paid extra just to sabotage.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: apskip on July 10, 2008, 08:37:58 AM
I don't think Ramsay would trigger sabotage of the Final, but I'm sure that FOX would. So who was really in charge of the Hell's Kitchen show? I certainly can't answer that one.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on July 10, 2008, 11:14:42 AM
They should bring back Jen every season to sabotage one finalist. She's perfect for that.
It was so frustrating to watch Jen & Matt's performance. I would swear they were paid extra just to sabotage.

My very thought!!!! Jen/Omerosa sabotage!

I still don't understand Christine over Petrozza, the comments seemed good for him about his food and his service didn't bog down. I'm with apskip there.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TARAsia Fan on July 10, 2008, 11:49:43 AM
And now, A Moment with Jen:

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I want to thank TARAsia Fan for giving me a chance to respond to you all. I just want to say I was the best chef out there. The reason why Chef Ramsay didn't choose me was because he knew how good I was. He knew I would outshine him as the Executive Chef of his restaurant. I'm better than Chef, you know. And Petrozza??? Christine??? I'm 10 times better than them. Everyone chose me for elimination because they were afraid of me. I can outcook everyone in my sleep. And when we ran out of bleu cheese? That wasn't my fault because Petrozza should have checked that. And Chef Ramsay should have known because it's his restaurant. All I know is that I'm the greatest chef I know because I can cook better than anyone out there. Bobby? He's a wuss! Louross? Horrible! Corey? What is she? Matt? Are you kidding me? I should have been the winner, but forget them all! I'll do my own show and you'll see how good I am. And another thing, this TARAsia Fan....

Thank you, Jen. I need my notebook back.

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Hey! I'm not finished!

Oh yes you are. And that is A Moment with Jen.
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TexasLady on July 10, 2008, 12:31:38 PM
And now, A Moment with Jen:

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I want to thank TARAsia Fan for giving me a chance to respond to you all. I just want to say I was the best chef out there. The reason why Chef Ramsay didn't choose me was because he knew how good I was. He knew I would outshine him as the Executive Chef of his restaurant. I'm better than Chef, you know. And Petrozza??? Christine??? I'm 10 times better than them. Everyone chose me for elimination because they were afraid of me. I can outcook everyone in my sleep. And when we ran out of bleu cheese? That wasn't my fault because Petrozza should have checked that. And Chef Ramsay should have known because it's his restaurant. All I know is that I'm the greatest chef I know because I can cook better than anyone out there. Bobby? He's a wuss! Louross? Horrible! Corey? What is she? Matt? Are you kidding me? I should have been the winner, but forget them all! I'll do my own show and you'll see how good I am. And another thing, this TARAsia Fan....

Thank you, Jen. I need my notebook back.

Quote
Hey! I'm not finished!

Oh yes you are. And that is A Moment with Jen.

OMG!  :funny: (I doubt it took only a moment though...)  :lala
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TARAsia Fan on July 10, 2008, 01:02:30 PM
Actually, it didn't take long. All I had to do was string together her statements over the season. It wasn't that hard.  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: puddin on July 10, 2008, 02:24:55 PM
And now, A Moment with Jen:

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I want to thank TARAsia Fan for giving me a chance to respond to you all. I just want to say I was the best chef out there. The reason why Chef Ramsay didn't choose me was because he knew how good I was. He knew I would outshine him as the Executive Chef of his restaurant. I'm better than Chef, you know. And Petrozza??? Christine??? I'm 10 times better than them. Everyone chose me for elimination because they were afraid of me. I can outcook everyone in my sleep. And when we ran out of bleu cheese? That wasn't my fault because Petrozza should have checked that. And Chef Ramsay should have known because it's his restaurant. All I know is that I'm the greatest chef I know because I can cook better than anyone out there. Bobby? He's a wuss! Louross? Horrible! Corey? What is she? Matt? Are you kidding me? I should have been the winner, but forget them all! I'll do my own show and you'll see how good I am. And another thing, this TARAsia Fan....

Thank you, Jen. I need my notebook back.

Quote
Hey! I'm not finished!

Oh yes you are. And that is A Moment with Jen.
LMAO! Ask her why she always looked so "greasy" ;)
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: TARAsia Fan on July 10, 2008, 03:11:58 PM
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This puddin must be afraid of me because I don't know what the **** she's talking about! I'm a beautiful woman! I'm a fashionista! Christine? She don't know fashion like me. I don't know what the **** you mean when you say I look "greasy". I'm not a greasy woman! I'm a talented chef! And don't you forget it!
Title: Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
Post by: puddin on July 10, 2008, 03:13:42 PM
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This puddin must be afraid of me because I don't know what the **** she's talking about! I'm a beautiful woman! I'm a fashionista! Christine? She don't know fashion like me. I don't know what the **** you mean when you say I look "greasy". I'm not a greasy woman! I'm a talented chef! And don't you forget it!
:lol: oh okay, lmao