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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #150 on: May 17, 2008, 08:50:17 AM »
I think we had a taste of how Ramsay uses such judges in the HK3 Finale. They are just freaking placehohlders whose job is clearly to make sure the score gets and stays tied so that the heavy hitters can make the real decision. It's all phony baloney. They could hire a monkey to do the same job!

 :funny: OMG that’s funny apskip

I would be perfectly willing to wager the monkey knowing the difference between a nectarine and a pineapple or tofu over real meat for that matter.

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« Reply #151 on: May 19, 2008, 11:15:29 AM »
... an interesting article

Fox will try to “accelerate” Survivor’s demise by airing Moment of Truth, Hell’s Kitchen against it

Next season, Survivor will face a challenge that the show hasn’t seen before, as Fox will air its two biggest non-American Idol reality shows against it. Moment of Truth will face off against Survivor Gabon in the fall and Hell’s Kitchen will air opposite season 18 of the CBS reality series next spring.

The Hollywood Reporter’s James Hibberd reports that “Fox is gunning to finally take down CBS’ ‘Survivor.’ Fox has lined up its second and third-highest rated reality shows to air head-to-head against CBS’ veteran hit.” While “‘Survivor’ has owned its Thursdays at 8 p.m. time period the last couple years,” and networks “keep their more significant reality shows out of its way,” “Thursdays command the highest ad rates” and “Fox routinely comes in fourth place on the richest night of the week.”

Fox executive Peter Liguori told the paper, “Look, it’s eroding! It’s an older show. Its eventually going to give up and were trying to accelerate that.” The network was encouraged to try it because when Survivor aired on Wednesday night, Moment of Truth aired opposite it and won.

I may just be hoping against the downfall of Western civilization, but I can’t imagine Moment of Truth will be successful in unseating CBS’ marquee reality series. For one, it doesn’t have anywhere near the shelf life of Survivor. The show mostly wastes time, and ends right at the most interesting part: when the contestants face consequences for their revelations. While it started strong with 23.2 million viewers, that episode had American Idol as a lead-in, and it lost viewers as its season went on.
By the time Moment of Truth’s season ended, 10.162 million viewers were watching, a huge drop, while Survivor Micronesia had 12.870 million viewers that same week, according to TV by the Numbers. As of May 11, Survivor Micronesia had a season-to-date average of 14,280,000 viewers, while Moment of Truth had 14,172,000, according to TV by the Numbers. That’s not a huge lead for CBS, but it’s still a lead.

I think the bigger problem is Hell’s Kitchen, which will air against Survivor 18 next spring. The two shows couldn’t be more different, of course. One involves strategy and requires some mental engagement on the part of viewers, while the other is basically an excuse to watch man yell at and insult a bunch of incompetent adults for an hour every week. Survivor tends to pull weaker numbers in the spring, and Hell’s Kitchen was watched by 14.01 million people last Tuesday, although it had American Idol as a lead-in, which it won’t on Thursday nights.

The biggest question of all, though, may be whether or not this even matters. Those people with DVRs who want to watch both shows will just record both shows; others may watch one of the two online instead of on TV. For those of us who do watch TV in these newfangled ways, this show vs. show mentality is largely irrelevant, and seems to reflect old thinking about the way people consume television. The scheduling showdown may have an impact because not everyone records shows or watches online, but it seems pretty archaic to assume that scheduling one show against another means that everyone will just abandon one show for the other.

Source: http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/survivor_gabon/2008_May_19_fox_survivor_competition


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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #152 on: May 20, 2008, 09:59:04 AM »
Today's paper has a listing for Hell's Kitchen with "chefs try to create 4 dishes using 20 ingredients." This sounds more like TopChef 4 than Hell's Kitchen 4, but it is clearly an important part of a chef's development. This will separate the better chefs from the lesser. Who knows, it may show that Matt is really the best. Chefs with better training like Bobby, Louross, Matt and maybe Petrozza should have the edge with this. Rosann is likely to be in trouble. Christina, Corey and Jen will all be in an intermediate group based on culinary background alone. It will be interesting to see how all  chefs fare in this Challenge.

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #153 on: May 20, 2008, 10:52:13 AM »
This sounds like an interesting challenge, and the four you mention should do better. I'm waiting to see Petrozza shine. We saw a glimpse of his abilities when he had to do table side service but not much since. Louross took over the kitchen once and did well, Bobby has ability but he also let his team down in the beginning when he wouldn't help.

I meant to reply to another post but forgot to hit post and lost it. :groan: I think Ramsey pushes people to see how they take the stress and criticism. Some rise and meet or exceed his expectations and some get mad and stop talking or in Jen's case, sulk. I hope she does better this week.

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« Reply #154 on: May 20, 2008, 03:04:31 PM »
Today's paper has a listing for Hell's Kitchen with "chefs try to create 4 dishes using 20 ingredients." This sounds more like TopChef 4 than Hell's Kitchen 4, but it is clearly an important part of a chef's development. This will separate the better chefs from the lesser. Who knows, it may show that Matt is really the best. Chefs with better training like Bobby, Louross, Matt and maybe Petrozza should have the edge with this. Rosann is likely to be in trouble. Christina, Corey and Jen will all be in an intermediate group based on culinary background alone. It will be interesting to see how all  chefs fare in this Challenge.

Nice apskip thanks for sharing this information.

I am so looking forward to tonights episode and let's not forget the loss of Matt's finger tip :ascared

But clearly it's time for Rosann to step it up or get out of the kitchen and back to answering phones.
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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #155 on: May 20, 2008, 05:47:37 PM »
Nice apskip thanks for sharing this information.

I am so looking forward to tonights episode and let's not forget the loss of Matt's finger tip :ascared

But clearly it's time for Rosann to step it up or get out of the kitchen and back to answering phones.

I'm looking forward to watching as well, except for the possibility that it IS Matt's finger tip frying in the pan. :helpme

I had high hopes for Rosann but she is out of her element here, I agree, she has to step up or go. 
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« Reply #156 on: May 20, 2008, 06:57:43 PM »

I'm looking forward to watching as well, except for the possibility that it IS Matt's finger tip frying in the pan. :helpme

I had high hopes for Rosann but she is out of her element here, I agree, she has to step up or go. 

 :groan: Oh TL with Dancing with the Stars Idol and HK I will have to save my best for last and record HK

Poor Matt it must so painful :(

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #157 on: May 20, 2008, 08:06:47 PM »
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  Oh TL with Dancing with the Stars Idol and HK I will have to save my best for last and record HK

Poor Matt it must so painful

I feel for ya Ca!!  :-*
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« Reply #158 on: May 20, 2008, 11:59:42 PM »
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  Oh TL with Dancing with the Stars Idol and HK I will have to save my best for last and record HK

Poor Matt it must so painful

I feel for ya Ca!!  :-*

 :lol: wow I just finished watching all the shows I recorded

Ramsay had no pity on poor Matt who had just cut off his fingertip ouch it must be painful

I have to admit when Ramsay said for Rosann to get back in line I argued his decision, glad he agreed

:ascared Anyone notice toilet brush (I'm never going to forget that one thanks to puddin) has been over grooming his eyebrows  :lol:

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #159 on: May 21, 2008, 10:45:42 AM »
What a great show last night I am so thankful that I decided to watch it and NOT record it!!!!!  Can't help put love, love, love HK but also have to wonder did they ever find that tip to Matt's finger??? 


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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #160 on: May 21, 2008, 12:31:43 PM »
Why do you think Ramsay was only taking a tiny sample of all the Red team dishes? He's no dummy!

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« Reply #161 on: May 21, 2008, 02:03:20 PM »

My initial thought about Ramsay’s taste test in the first challenge was oh I wouldn’t be able to taste any food after the mishap with Matt. Where are those chef’s from previous seasons, it’s a good time to have them make an appearance.

I have to admit I emailed Intouch magazine requesting the edition with the cover with Ramsay  :angel:

Did you see Jen’s reaction towards the Red Team she was hilarious and it looks like Jen will be all over Louross in next week’s episode.

The preview showing next week shows someone sweating in the food OMG that is just disgusting and nothing infuriates me more than a disgusting chef who thinks that is acceptable.

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #162 on: May 22, 2008, 01:29:28 AM »
Is this show in the finals yet, ca bb?  Sounds like you're all enjoying it. 
(except for the sweat in the food! :groan:  )

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #163 on: May 22, 2008, 07:42:32 AM »
RudyRules, the sweat in the food has not been shown on camera yet. It is next week.

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« Reply #164 on: May 22, 2008, 03:14:00 PM »
Is this show in the finals yet, ca bb?  Sounds like you're all enjoying it. 
(except for the sweat in the food! :groan:  )

No it's not in the finals yet.  Not sure when it will be but it has a few more episodes to go  :js:

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« Reply #165 on: May 22, 2008, 05:02:51 PM »
Is this show in the finals yet, ca bb?  Sounds like you're all enjoying it. 
(except for the sweat in the food! :groan:  )

 :-* Hi ya RudyRules, yes the sweating is as gross as it sounds, just gross.

It makes you want to go back to the kitchen next time you dine and say hello to the chef  ;)

As for the episodes as far as I can see there are 7 episodes left, unfortunately for me I wish it could go on forever  :funny:


5/27/08 (Tu.) 9:00 PM FOX (HK-409) 7 Chefs Compete

6/3/08 (Tu.) 9:00 PM FOX (HK-410) 6 Chefs Compete

6/10/08 (Tu.) 9:00 PM FOX (HK-411) 5 Chefs Compete

6/17/08 (Tu.) 9:00 PM FOX (HK-412) 4 Chefs Compete

6/24/08 (Tu.) 9:00 PM FOX (HK-413) 3 Chefs Compete

7/1/08 (Tu.) 9:00 PM FOX (HK-414) 2 Chefs Compete

7/8/08 (Tu.) 9:00 PM FOX (HK-415) Winner Announced
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« Reply #166 on: May 22, 2008, 05:07:18 PM »

.... next week's episode

CHAOS ENSUES AND FORCES CHEF RAMSAY UP AGAINST A WALL ON "HELL'S KITCHEN" TUESDAY, MAY 27, ON FOX

It's all about speed and accuracy as the teams are challenged to prepare dishes for Chef Ramsay in a relay race.

The winners are treated to a day of fun in the sun as they head to the beach for private surfing lessons.

The losing team is forced to get down and dirty and clean the entire restaurant.

During dinner service, Chef Ramsay gives the contestants the chance to create their own menus,

but when one team can't decide on the menu, it causes major chaos.

With this being the worst dinner service yet, Chef Ramsay does something drastic during the elimination ceremony

when "7 Chefs Compete" on HELL'S KITCHEN

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« Reply #167 on: May 22, 2008, 10:49:02 PM »
What could something drastic be? I think it might be elimination of one member of each team regardless of which team has won or the elimination of 2 members from the same team. I can see Matt and Christina or Matt and Louross biting the dust.

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« Reply #168 on: May 23, 2008, 12:17:51 AM »
What could something drastic be? I think it might be elimination of one member of each team regardless of which team has won or the elimination of 2 members from the same team. I can see Matt and Christina or Matt and Louross biting the dust.

I believe your right apskip.

I had to look again at the preview for next week.

It seems that not only does one chef sweat into the food but another tries to serve raw food again

and another produced some really bad tasting food

and of course a whole lotta hollaring by Ramsay his best one yet  :funny:

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #169 on: May 23, 2008, 03:59:22 AM »
Is this show in the finals yet, ca bb?  Sounds like you're all enjoying it. 
(except for the sweat in the food! :groan:  )
:-* Hi ya RudyRules, yes the sweating is as gross as it sounds, just gross.
It makes you want to go back to the kitchen next time you dine and say hello to the chef  ;)
As for the episodes as far as I can see there are 7 episodes left, unfortunately for me I wish it could go on forever  :funny: 
Hey ca bb, they could add some blood & tears to the sweat! :stirtp:  Maybe a winner!  :lol3:  :jam:  :<3


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« Reply #170 on: May 26, 2008, 05:51:46 PM »
I have seen something which confirms that it is Matt sweating into the food.

I have also seen in TV Guide the listing for Tuesday night's episode, which involves a relay race.

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« Reply #171 on: May 26, 2008, 06:25:21 PM »

I have seen something which confirms that it is Matt sweating into the food.

I have also seen in TV Guide the listing for Tuesday night's episode, which involves a relay race.

 :kuss: boy am I glad to see you, it's been a while apskip  :jumpy:

So it is Matt sweating in the food  (:;) I can't wait to see the episode  :wohoo:

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« Reply #172 on: May 27, 2008, 01:20:12 PM »
What could something drastic be? I think it might be elimination of one member of each team regardless of which team has won or the elimination of 2 members from the same team. I can see Matt and Christina or Matt and Louross biting the dust.

Well, I like to gamble a lot and do plenty of online sportsbetting.  The sportsbook I have, has wagers for the winner of Hell's Kitchen.  The current odds as of May 27 @ 11:14 AM PST is:

Cristina      -130
Corey        +900
Jen            +1000
Bobby        +650
Louross     +225
Matt          +2500
Petraozza +1600

Looks like Matt is on his way out soon.  With Petrozza and Jen right behind.  Maybe even Petrozza goes tonight.  For sure it is Matt leaving tonight.

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« Reply #173 on: May 27, 2008, 05:27:24 PM »
I agree with that thinking. I think what we will see is 2 eliminations in 1 night. First is Matt for seweating into the food. Then blue team will lose and I expect Louross, not Petrossa, to be the other one eliminated.

I diagree strongly with the betting syndicate's handicaps. I think the final 3 will be Bobby, Petrozza and Corey. Christina has been overrated by the syndicate. She will be next gone after the two above. Jen will make it to the final 4 but not beyond. This will give you somewhat different odds.

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« Reply #174 on: May 28, 2008, 05:09:13 AM »

Well, I like to gamble a lot and do plenty of online sportsbetting.  The sportsbook I have, has wagers for the winner of Hell's Kitchen.  The current odds as of May 27 @ 11:14 AM PST is:
Cristina      -130
Corey        +900
Jen            +1000
Bobby        +650
Louross     +225
Matt          +2500
Petraozza +1600
Looks like Matt is on his way out soon.  With Petrozza and Jen right behind.  Maybe even Petrozza goes tonight.  For sure it is Matt leaving tonight.

 :hello2: scarsonefan thank you for the info, please do keep us updated and welcome to RFF.