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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #200 on: June 05, 2008, 07:53:35 PM »
Thanks, TexasLady for the informative previews. I know where to find them but am too lazy. When you offer it up nice and easy with a link, I click it and watch.

BballKates, I totally agree with you right down to the order of elimination, but it might be Christina before Jen.

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #201 on: June 05, 2008, 09:39:54 PM »
Thanks, TexasLady for the informative previews. I know where to find them but am too lazy. When you offer it up nice and easy with a link, I click it and watch.

BballKates, I totally agree with you right down to the order of elimination, but it might be Christina before Jen.

I'm glad to contribute then if it helps! Small payback for your excellent recaps.  :-*

I'm agree with you, Christina could go next, she was flustered this week, Ramsey gave her a heads up with the comment about needing more experience. Jen is strong in some ways and I wondered if Ramsey gave her the trip to Vegas over Christina as a reward for her hard work, she won't win or even be in the finals, in my opinion.

(I thought I posted about this but I must be losing my mind or somewhere online is a post about Hell's Kitchen in some strange topic. If you spot it let me know will ya?)   :crazy:


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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #202 on: June 07, 2008, 02:50:48 AM »
TV Guide has the scoop on what will happen next week: The 5 remaining chefs give gourmet-cooking lessons to housewives.


.... further to the TV Guide scoop

Top Chefs Mark Peele and Ben Ford Appear

Chef Ramsay challenges the chefs to teach cooking-impaired housewives how to create a gourmet meal.

While the losers are forced to clean the kitchen,

the winner is treated to a one-on-one course with two world-renowned chefs: Mark Peele and Ben Ford.

The remaining five chefs then face a hectic night as they struggle to balance a dozen appetizers, entrees and desserts.

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #203 on: June 07, 2008, 02:58:16 AM »

A quick update from betED.com, it appears as of today's date Bobby followed by Corey are in favour to win

Christina +180   
Corey +115   
Jen +1700   
Bobby +100   
Petrozza +1100

Source: Click here: http://www.beted.com/lines.aspx?l=PROP

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #204 on: June 07, 2008, 02:34:36 PM »
I'm surprised that Jen has the worst odds but I think her attitude will do her in next week. I don't think she works as hard as Christina. At the same time this may sound weird and it is not meant to sound racist but do you think an black male would win two years in row?


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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #205 on: June 07, 2008, 04:32:20 PM »
BbK: I'm not sure, it isn't racist but Bobby MIGHT have the talent but we don't know because we haven't been shown that he can indeed run a kitchen. I can only recall one time when he stepped up and took over. He also went to the dorm and got Petrozza back on track when Petrozza felt that he couldn't learn the menu. (Wow that was a LONG time ago wasn't it!) I did feel like he COULD lead a kitchen at that moment, but we just don't see it. Heather was a standout from the beginning of season 2, Rock last year.

It would be amusing if the black Gordon Ramsey won. (According to Bobby, that was his title.)  :lol: 

The odds have changed I see. (Thanks Ca for posting them!) If I read them right, it was Corey who had the best odds to win, wonder what changed. I know NOTHING about betting or odds.

I wonder who will get the meat station in next Tuesday's episode. That's the test for Ramsey's blood pressure. I am glad we didn't get a heads-up that someone was injured especially when you see the way Christina's trophy wife studen is using her knife!  :groan:
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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #206 on: June 07, 2008, 09:27:18 PM »
Bobby has demonstrated that he is the best of a weak group of chefs by not making many errors rather than by dominating the competition. He has not done that much positive, but he has avoided the meat undercooked, meat overcooked, fish raw disasters that all of the others have had. Bobby's main negative is how he did in the first episode before he decided to change his tactics and the fact that he has been totally mediocre on the challenges.

Would I hire him to run a restaurant if I had one? I would, but I would not be paying him even $100,000 per year because he isn't worth it. What happens to chefs who get the big first-year bucks and then find out that they are masssively overpriced? I'll bet this has been an issue for Ramsay with Heather and Rock.

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #207 on: June 08, 2008, 07:28:59 AM »

At the same time this may sound weird and it is not meant to sound racist but do you think an black male would win two years in row?


 :groan: lol BballKates

Yes I think a black male would win two years in a row, just like a white chef had also won the first two years in a row  :res:

Bobby is a contender in this season he has a degree in the culinary arts from Niagara County Community College

He has been working in the industry since age 16 so he does have a lot of experience

He also has a possible book deal and opportunities to work in several restaurants across the country

If Bobby doesn't win this season he will still be a successful chef




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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #208 on: June 08, 2008, 12:41:45 PM »
Hey I speak my mind, nothing wrong with that. It is clear on these cooking shows there is a male bias. Between Hells Kitchen and Top Chef only one women has won.

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #209 on: June 08, 2008, 01:30:16 PM »
I think Ramsay is color-blind and gender-blind. He values talent. As I have stated previously, I think Bobby is in the best position to win. So, yes we should see a second black male chef win, although it also could be a female. I don't think Petrozza has a very good chance because of his kitchen cleanliness. Ramsay values his honesty in assessing other chefs, but that will not carry over into a win for Petrozza because little else has been demonstrated.


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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #210 on: June 08, 2008, 04:57:51 PM »
Based on the edits of the show I don't get the impression that Bobby will be or is going to be the winner. And I think your absolutely right about Chef Ramsay. As I said I didn't mean for it to sound racist I just think it is interesting that two very similar chefs could win in back to back seasons.

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #211 on: June 11, 2008, 05:54:26 AM »

 :ascared the online betting site is down, gee I wonder why  :funny: Bobbbbyyyy


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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #212 on: June 11, 2008, 05:59:41 AM »

.... on a postive note, the ratings are good  ;)

Off to its best start in four years, the NBA Finals slam-dunked the competish for ABC on two nights last week, but a more consistent Fox -- paced by its midweek reality hits -- led once again among young adults.

Fox made it 22 consecutive victories in the adults 18-49 demo, as "Hell's Kitchen"
and both nights of "So You Think You Can Dance" delivered the week's top numbers outside of hoops action.

According to Nielsen estimates that include same-night DVR playback, Fox's 2.5 rating/8 share in 18-49 topped ABC's 2.2/7, with NBC third (1.9/6), followed by CBS (1.7/5), Univision (1.3/4) and USA (0.8/2).

Fox also led in adults 25-54 (2.6/8) and persons 12-34 (2.3/8), while CBS led in total viewers (7.2 million vs. 6.5 million for runner-up Fox).

Improved numbers this year for both the NBA Finals and hockey's Stanley Cup Finals on NBC helped the broadcast networks achieve something they haven't done at all in 2008: outperform the same week of a year ago. The major nets and CW were up a combined 5% in both 18-49 and total viewers vs. the second summer frame of 2007.

Meanwhile, final averages for the 2007-08 season that include all same-week DVR playback show that Fox won by a slightly larger margin than previously reported. The net's 4.3 rating in 18-49 reps a 5% improvement over the 2006-07 season and was a whopping 43% ahead of ABC and CBS (both at a 3.0).

Looking at Fox's week, "Hell's Kitchen" (4.4/12 in 18-49, 9.36 million viewers overall) continues to impress, whipping up its best scores to date for an episode that wasn't a season finale or that didn't follow "American Idol." Tuesday lead-in "Moment of Truth" also led its timeslot (2.7/9, 2.76m), and the net was also tough with "So You Think You Can Dance" on both Wednesday (3.7/11 in 18-49, 9.56m) and Thursday (3.3/10, 9.25m).

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #213 on: June 11, 2008, 07:31:03 AM »
Bobby went down in flames in episode 11, although Petrozza and Jen both tried to show even poorer results. Christina and Corey showed the teamwork that hsa been sorely lacking. Perhaps because they are the youngest in the competition(except for Jen being younger than Corey), they have worked well together and their teamwork has paid off in really good results. Christina won both the Cooking School challenge and the main dinner service last night. Corey was a close second both times.

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #214 on: June 11, 2008, 07:51:46 AM »
I must say, last night was a shocker. I didn't see this coming. I have to say, I cannot stand Christina, and her comment about Jen not being a team player was a hoot! Has Christina ever helped Jen or anyone else in the kitchen? Not that I've noticed, she is as self centered as Jen but more subtle.

Corey and Christina for final two? ???
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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #215 on: June 11, 2008, 10:03:13 AM »

 :groan: Ramsay choosing Jen over Bobby must be purely for the drama she makes on HK

I can’t take another day of listening to her as I’m sure we all are tired of it  blahblah

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #216 on: June 11, 2008, 10:24:06 AM »
.... next week on HK

IT'S THE MOTHER OF ALL CHALLENGES ON "HELL'S KITCHEN" TUESDAY, JUNE 17, ON FOX

The final four contestants prepare a specialty lunch for some surprise guests Chef Ramsay has invited to Hell's Kitchen.

When the doors open, 80 very hungry, very picky and very pregnant moms-to-be walk through the door!

The ladies choose the best dish and send the winner on a $1000 shopping spree.

The remaining chefs are forced to stay behind and clean up after the luncheon.

During dinner service tempers flare and tension is high,

and one contestant gets careless and burns Chef Ramsay's hand,

which sends Ramsay over the edge in the "4 Chefs Compete" episode of HELL'S KITCHEN

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #217 on: June 14, 2008, 11:08:59 AM »
I thought Jen would go first. However, I think Bobby did nothing to stand out while he was on the show. Case in point the very first episode where he was willing to sit back and watch everyone else in the kitchen and not take charge. He was far too laid back and thought he could fly under the radar and win. Seriously, what had he proven that he hadn't messed up yet? So what? I think you have to mess up and hear it from Chef Ramsay to be in the running. He wants someone that takes the punches and is still standing. The other four have done that better even Petrozza who has been man enough to admit when he has done poorly. Bobby was arrogant from the get go and it may have done him well to be a bit more vocal and assertive.

My prediction is that it comes down to Corey and Christina.

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #218 on: June 17, 2008, 01:14:29 PM »
They should take these shows on the road like they do with America's Got Talent...they'd probably get even more diverse contestants on there.

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #219 on: June 17, 2008, 05:07:34 PM »
You missed the announcement today that TopChef(not Hell's Kitchen which doesn't have the depth of chef talent to pull it off) is doing just that. TopChef has talented graduates if the show placed around the country and there will be a 48 foot mobile studio to support them. Here is the article from Buddy TV:

'Top Chef' Hits the Road by Rosario Santiago
Tuesday, June 17, 2008
              
In the tradition of other reality shows like American Idol, Dancing with the Stars and So You Think You Can Dance, which have all taken their contenders on the road, Bravo is likewise sending its Top Chefs out of the kitchen and straight to the hungry folk of 20 cities across America.  Traveling aboard its very own official 18-wheeler semi-truck, Top Chef: The Tour hits the road starting this Saturday, June 21.  Its first stop is the Whole Foods Market of the Birchwood Shopping Center in Jericho, Long Island, New York.

Here's a list of all the other cities on the Top Chef Tour route and the dates for each stop:

July 1: Boston, MA
July 4: Philadelphia, PA
July 9: Pittsburgh, PA
July 12: Columbus, OH
July 16: St. Louis, MO
July 19: Denver, CO
July 26: Phoenix, AZ
July 30: San Diego, CA
Aug. 2 & 3: San Francisco, CA
August 8: Los Angeles, CA
August 16: Des Moines, IA
August 23: Detroit, MI
August 27: Madison, WI
Sept. 3 & 4: Chicago, IL
September 13: Raleigh, NC
September 20: Tampa, FL
September 24: Orlando, FL
September 27: Atlanta, GA
TBD: New York, NY

At each stopover, select Top Cheftestants will host a total of four live interactive shows, covering everything from the obligatory cooking demonstrations (Top Chef being a cooking skill competition and all), gourmet pointers, show secrets, and of course, perhaps the most anticipated part of them all, the food sampling.  Of the four shows, three will be conducted for attending fans while the remaining other will be held privately for cable affiliates.

All tour shows will emanate directly from the specially-commissioned 48-foot long, self-sufficient Top Chef Tour truck.  Furnished with its own state-of-the-art kitchen, the monster vehicle seats 38 guests at any one time but can address as many as 300 in an open-air setup.  Either way, the HD cameras on board deliver all the Top Chef live shows to more viewers via the accompanying 42” HD screens.

"We're excited to provide our cable affiliates and food enthusiasts with an interactive gourmet cooking experience from cable's number one food show," Brian Hunt, NBC Universal's senior vice president for Marketing & Sales Strategy of their TV Networks Distribution, said.  "This tour is a unique promotional opportunity designed to bring the hit series to life for fans throughout the country."

Those interested to attend the Top Chef Tour series may log on to www.bravotv.com/thetour to sign up for free admission.



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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #220 on: June 17, 2008, 05:31:46 PM »
DARN! Nothing close to me. Maybe Hell's Kitchen can tour as well. They should have a double-wide trailer though so Chef Ramsey can throw things safely. (Washable walls as well.)  :tup:

OK! Who do we think put the pan over the flame and burned Chef's hand? (or hands) Jen comes to mind as my first and obvious choice since the rice pan incident, but since she described it without crying I don't think it was her. I think Christina.

We'll know in 2 1/2 + hours.
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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #221 on: June 17, 2008, 09:46:10 PM »
Predictable, but sad for me because I am probably the only Jen fan in America, possibly in the world. Wait, there are 2 of us because she likes herself a lot! :lol: I liked her spunk, her ups and downs in her camera chats.

Petrozza and who for final 2? Corey most likely. Any one care to make a prediction as to winner?

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #222 on: June 17, 2008, 10:39:52 PM »
Christina will probably win (snore)

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #223 on: June 17, 2008, 11:39:12 PM »
It's still anybody's game. Any one of the Final 3 can be eliminated in next week's episode. Corey and Christina make mistakes. Petrozza doesn't make many(if there was an invitation to mistakes it is the meat station that he ran flawlessly tonight). Either Christina or Corey should get assigned the meat station next week. Someone will get fish and someone appetizers. Possibly MaryAnn and Scott will handle veggies and all will shift to desserts at the proper time.

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Re: Hell's Kitchen Season 4
« Reply #224 on: June 18, 2008, 09:22:35 AM »
I have to ask if anyone else had burned Ramsey's hand not once but twice the same exact way, would he have reacted the say way?  :lol:
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