Topic: Hell's Kitchen Season 4

[marigold]

Well the profusely sweating fingertipless whining baby (Matt) has somehow managed to escape elimination and has returned to the blue team.

Jen is getting on my last nerve if she plans on doing all that talking she better be able to back it up and as far as I can see she can’t, she’s just all mouth.

It’s no wonder Ramsay is irate. I can’t say I blame him. I understand the drama for tv

but really one of these yo-yos is suppose to be hired as a senior chef for his LA restaurant

I agree Bobby and Petrozza for the final 2.

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bb ca fan, I totally agree with your thinking on Jen. Although Jen has some culinary talent, she has failed to discern that Ramsay likes a nice peaceful, communicating kitchen. Jen is so abrasive and divisive that her days are numbered regardless of how well she cooks.

[marigold]

bb ca fan, I totally agree with your thinking on Jen. Although Jen has some culinary talent, she has failed to discern that Ramsay likes a nice peaceful, communicating kitchen. Jen is so abrasive and divisive that her days are numbered regardless of how well she cooks.

  Oh apskip I agree there is a difference between communicating and controlling. She has some talent but that menu coordinated for dinner service was how much percent I can’t recall the exact amount something like 70-75% was all her controlling it. It had failed miserably with Ramsay.

There is nothing like a chef that is not intimidated by leadership it involves self confidence but most importantly the ability to do the job. Jen doesn’t have that, it’s just mouth with her. It’s clear she is not the one for Ramsay.

What had also surprised me was Petrozza contemplating rubbing out Bobby, it’s smart that he didn’t act on that. It’s to early for that when there are his other teammates that played a role with the blue teams 2 loses, the challenge and dinner service.

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cc ba fan, he had to at least think about it before acting. However, he would rapidly conclude that Bobby has been a team player and that his cooking talent has been amply demonstrated. That means that nominating Bobby would have been an invitation for the Red Team to clobber the Blue Team until all Blue members including Petrozza himself were gone. It should not have taken much thinking to figure out that having Bobby around longer is in Petrozza's best interest. Next out from the Blue Team is going to be Matt, but maybe Bobby and Petrozza could wipe out the remaining Red Team(Corey, Christina and Jen) first. Another factor that Petrozza would have had to consider is how Ramsay will lose faith in him if he deviates from giving the best possible recommendation/nominations.

[neoknows]

I know you guys can be anal about links to other sites (rightfully so) but you should check out the sarcastic Hells Kitchen episode recaps at Pophangover.com - http://pophangover.com/hellskitchen... my coworkers and I laugh our butts off every Wednesday. There are funny screen caps too.

I think Corey is going to win this season. They're really pushing for her - not showing her doing anything wrong, etc. BYE BYE LOUROSS!!!

[marigold]

cc ba fan, he had to at least think about it before acting. However, he would rapidly conclude that Bobby has been a team player and that his cooking talent has been amply demonstrated. That means that nominating Bobby would have been an invitation for the Red Team to clobber the Blue Team until all Blue members including Petrozza himself were gone. It should not have taken much thinking to figure out that having Bobby around longer is in Petrozza's best interest. Next out from the Blue Team is going to be Matt, but maybe Bobby and Petrozza could wipe out the remaining Red Team(Corey, Christina and Jen) first. Another factor that Petrozza would have had to consider is how Ramsay will lose faith in him if he deviates from giving the best possible recommendation/nominations.

apskip that makes perfect sense brilliant really you absolutely have it all covered 

[marigold]

I know you guys can be anal about links to other sites (rightfully so) but you should check out the sarcastic Hells Kitchen episode recaps at Pophangover.com - http://pophangover.com/hellskitchen... my coworkers and I laugh our butts off every Wednesday. There are funny screen caps too.

I think Corey is going to win this season. They're really pushing for her - not showing her doing anything wrong, etc. BYE BYE LOUROSS!!!

Well  neoknows and thanks for the link and welcome to RFF.

[apskip]

I went through all episodes from 3 to 9 on pophangover.com. The writer has the necessary twisted sense of humor, but has limited culinary knowledge. Two examples of that are not knowing what risotto is and having no appreciation for the very expensive white truffles on Gordon Ramsay's demonstration pizza. Granted that the usual food coming out of Hell's Kitchen does not require great culinary knowledge (steaks, fish, pasta, salad) but when something simple like risotto comes up that writer is apparently incapable of handling it. The "zap" factor in these reviews is very high, putting my Top Chef 4 recaps to shame for their significantly lower "zap". All in all, I can only recommend pophangover.com/hellskitchen for those needing a zap experience.

[TexasLady]

What could something drastic be? I think it might be elimination of one member of each team regardless of which team has won or the elimination of 2 members from the same team. I can see Matt and Christina or Matt and Louross biting the dust.

Well, I like to gamble a lot and do plenty of online sportsbetting.  The sportsbook I have, has wagers for the winner of Hell's Kitchen.  The current odds as of May 27 @ 11:14 AM PST is:

Cristina      -130
Corey        +900
Jen            +1000
Bobby        +650
Louross     +225
Matt          +2500
Petraozza +1600

Looks like Matt is on his way out soon.  With Petrozza and Jen right behind.  Maybe even Petrozza goes tonight.  For sure it is Matt leaving tonight.

Thanks for posting Interesting odds! Welcome to RFF Scarsonefan! I love Hell's Kitchen!!

 

[marigold]

I had only read the first paragraph and was not inclined to read further.

It does have zing infact it's all zing I prefer it subtly added.

It is somewhat comical but lacks standard professional writing I’m accustomed to and enjoy reading.

What can I say I have my favorite writers I stay faithful too, they always keep me coming back for more.

[TexasLady]

I went through all episodes from 3 to 9 on pophangover.com. The writer has the necessary twisted sense of humor, but has limited culinary knowledge. Two examples of that are not knowing what risotto is and having no appreciation for the very expensive ****e truffles on Gordon Ramsay's demonstration pizza. Granted that the usual food coming out of Hell's Kitchen does not require great culinary knowledge (steaks, fish, pasta, salad) but when something simple like risotto comes up that writer is apparently incapable of handling it. The "zap" factor in these reviews is very high, putting my Top Chef 4 recaps to shame for their significantly lower "zap". All in all, I can only recommend pophangover.com/hellskitchen for those needing a zap experience.

I don't think I need "zap" comments Apskip, I prefer your's.

I believe we see the final four, Jen and Matt won't be around. I was sorry to see Louross leave but he couldn't command respect and for that, he had to go. (Of course he did have 3 intimidating sized people on his team so it put him at a slight disadvantage.) I believe if he had been a better cook, he would have earned more respect and that really was his downfall. He couldn't rise to the level needed to stay.

I also thought Petrozza said it perfectly in this last episode, Jen thinks she knows more than she really does. (I love her comments though, she cracks me up.)

Matt lacks skills and he might have lasted merely for the drama or luckily for him the red team won and he wasn't eliminated. (Watching him sweat, ugh, I wouldn't want to eat his food!)

I really wish that I could see more performance from Petrozza, we see glimpses of what Bobby CAN do, but he really doesn't stand out. I do believe Ramsey sees possibilities with Petrozza. Last night was another test to see what he could do, making a tough decision. That's why he gave him the job of eliminating Jen or Louross.

[TexasLady]

I know you guys can be anal about links to other sites (rightfully so) but you should check out the sarcastic Hells Kitchen episode recaps at Pophangover.com... my coworkers and I laugh our butts off every Wednesday. There are funny screen caps too.

I think Corey is going to win this season. They're really pushing for her - not showing her doing anything wrong, etc. BYE BYE LOUROSS!!!

She well could be a finalist, I don't think she is qualified to run a kitchen based on what we've seen but of course it is edited for television. Just my opinion though. 

Welcome to RFF neoknows.

 

[marigold]

  next week on Hell's Kitchen Epsiode 10

TWO TEAMS BECOME ONE AND CHEFS ARE ON THEIR OWN ON "HELL'S KITCHEN" TUESDAY, JUNE 3, ON FOX

Chef Ramsay takes the contestants to the future location of The London West Hollywood to give them inspiration as their quest to win the coveted prize continues.

When they get back to the kitchen, it's all business as two teams become one.

Each chef is given one main ingredient and must create a dish suitable to the palate of Chef Ramsay.

During dinner service, things heat up and the contestants are pushed to the limit -- one chef accidentally burns the rice, another chef burns a hand and the medic is called to the kitchen yet again!

Things continue to go downhill, and the chefs have trouble getting food out to the patrons in the "6 Chefs Compete" episode of HELL'S KITCHEN

[TexasLady]

Ca, thanks for always posting the best teasers! 

Another accidental burn!!! Ye Gods! The only one I can think of who tends to go bonkers from stress is Matt, I wonder if he burns himself. (This season truly HAS been Hell's Kitchen!) 

[neoknows]

I went through all episodes from 3 to 9 on pophangover.com. The writer has the necessary twisted sense of humor, but has limited culinary knowledge. Two examples of that are not knowing what risotto is and having no appreciation for the very expensive ****e truffles on Gordon Ramsay's demonstration pizza.

...Oh dear. It's a 100% humor site, not a food critic website guys! My friends and I don't care that the writers have limited culinary knowledge, in fact, that's the beauty of 'em to me. I can relate. Not many people, including myself, want to eat a ****e truffle or care about risotto.  I'm there for the laughs, not for someone's professional opinion on how tasty a mushroom is! Thankfully it's all what you call "zing" - or it would be so boring to read, especially if you've already seen the episode. Lol. To each his own.

Thanks everyone for the kind welcomes! I have to weigh in on my picks for the final 2: I think it's going to come down to COREY vs PETROZZA. I don't think Bobby has a shot in hell at winning the title.

Pophangover did bring up another interesting point about the incessant deceptive advertising from Fox and it drove me crazy. I found it insulting. Corey/Louross in the hot tub (lie!), finger in someone's food (lie!), etc. Did that bother anyone else, or do you just consider it your everyday average "plea" for ratings?

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neoknows, consider the source. Do you really expect reputable journalism from the FOX network? Their journalism is a joke, so what would you expect from FOX advertising?

Nevertheless, I watch Hell's Kitchen 4 on FOX for its entertainment value.

[TexasLady]

...Oh dear. It's a 100% humor site, not a food critic website guys! My friends and I don't care that the writers have limited culinary knowledge, in fact, that's the beauty of 'em to me. I can relate. Not many people, including myself, want to eat a ****e truffle or care about risotto.  I'm there for the laughs, not for someone's professional opinion on how tasty a mushroom is! Thankfully it's all what you call "zing" - or it would be so boring to read, especially if you've already seen the episode. Lol. To each his own.

Thanks everyone for the kind welcomes! I have to weigh in on my picks for the final 2: I think it's going to come down to COREY vs PETROZZA. I don't think Bobby has a shot in hell at winning the title.

Pophangover did bring up another interesting point about the incessant deceptive advertising from Fox and it drove me crazy. I found it insulting. Corey/Louross in the hot tub (lie!), finger in someone's food (lie!), etc. Did that bother anyone else, or do you just consider it your everyday average "plea" for ratings?

Well, I went to the site and to tell you the truth it became tedious to read. Ah well, as you say, to each his own.

I'm with Apskip though, I watch Hell's Kitchen for the entertainment value. I've watched this show from the beginning so I'm a fan. I will say though that this year has been disappointing to me, either we are seeing contestants from the bottom of the barrel or we haven't seen what they are capable of doing. We aren't seeing top chefs here but have we really seen what they can do or has it been edited out.   (The TOP chefs were already on another show as Apskip has noted earlier in the thread.) 

I'm not impressed with Corey or the culinary student Christina... any of them. We'll see how the final 4 perform soon enough.

[apskip]

Texas Lady, I will give you my assessment of the remaining HK4 cast:

Overall - the weakest group of chefs I have ever seen on reality TV
Bobby - I think he has talent and he can exercise leadership when he chooses to; he is cunning and often adopts an under-the-radar approach; in his employment he functions as an Executive Chef, which is a big plus
Petrozza - has the most experience because he is at least 10 years older than anyone else still in this competition; I like him as a straight-shooter but cannot conceive of Ramsay hiring him for the new restaurant
Corey - I have liked Corey from the beginning; she has less experience than Bobby or Petrozza but she has a lot of culinary talent; I can see her being hired by Ramsay
Christina - very young and still a culinary student; there is no way she is going to be running Ramsay's new restaurant
Matt - what is he doing here? wasn't he eliminated a long time ago and aren't we just seeing his ghost? Matt has no chance at all of being hired by Ramsay. He has the least talent and the highest record of screw-ups. I think they kept him around this long for comic relief only.

Jen - I just discovered one week later that I left Jen out, She has decent culinary talent, but her headstrong approach has not been appreciated by the other chefs or by Ramsay.

[TexasLady]

Texas Lady, I will give you my assessment of the remaining HK4 cast:

Overall - the weakest group of chefs I have ever seen on reality TV
Bobby - I think he has talent and he can exercise leadership when he chooses to; he is cunning and often adopts an under-the-radar approach; in his employment he functions as an Executive Chef, which is a big plus
Petrozza - has the most experience because he is at least 10 years older than anyone else still in this competition; I like him as a straight-shooter but cannot conceive of Ramsay hiring him for the new restaurant
Corey - I have liked Corey from the beginning; she has less experience than Bobby or Petrozza but she has a lot of culinary talent; I can see her being hired by Ramsay
Christina - very young and still a culinary student; there is no way she is going to be running Ramsay's new restaurant
Matt - what is he doing here? wasn't he eliminated a long time ago and aren't we just seeing his ghost? Matt has no chance at all of being hired by Ramsay. He has the least talent and the highest record of screw-ups. I think they kept him around this long for comic relief only.

I can't argue with your assessment. I believe the final two will be Corey and either Bobby or Petrozza. Matt should have been gone long ago, but he reminds me of Aaron who passed out last year, finally ending his stay long past when he should have been cut. (He like Matt and the fellow with the bad hair piece this year, should never have been put on the show to begin with.)

I hope that next year we see more qualified chefs. (I tried to convince my cousin to apply, he would have been good for drama.) 

[marigold]

.... further to scarsonefan's post there seems to show some difference in the odd's for final 2

For the direct link to betED.com click here: http://www.beted.com/lines.aspx?l=PROP

[apskip]

I watched the worst episode of Hell's Kitchen 4 last night. It was a worthless experience. What were Ramsay and the producers of HK4 thinking? I know that the primary reason for this is the lack of talent and experience in the chefs chosen. Who in the group of Bobby, Jen, Corey, Petrozza and Christina really impresses? My answer is NONE OF THE ABOVE. Ramsay said there are no favorites right now (he got that right!) but I will go further and state that after last night I have gone way past my tolerance level for all the B.S. prevelant on this show. The one person who knows what he is doing, Ramsay, compounds the problems with his behavior(usually created with a purpose but I could not find one last night for several of his actions).

[rosesrred]

I watched the worst episode of Hell's Kitchen 4 last night. It was a worthless experience. What were Ramsay and the producers of HK4 thinking? I know that the primary reason for this is the lack of talent and experience in the chefs chosen. Who in the group of Bobby, Jen, Corey, Petrozza and Christina really impresses? My answer is NONE OF THE ABOVE. Ramsay said there are no favorites right now (he got that right!) but I will go further and state that after last night I have gone way past my tolerance level for all the B.S. prevelant on this show. The one person who knows what he is doing, Ramsay, compounds the problems with his behavior(usually created with a purpose but I could not find one last night for several of his actions).

What confuses me is that they bring dishes to Ramsay that he seems to "love" and then when it comes to cooking in a kitchen with others they are all like "rats running around with their heads cut off" and they seem to forget how to boil water or cook rice.  I can't imagine who will win this thing and then can't help but feel sorry for Ramsay when that person has to run his kitchen here in LA.  I'll maybe think twice about stepping in that restaurant    Gee this whole show is a mess and doesn't seem to be getting any better  and that's no pun for Petrozza 

[apskip]

TV Guide has the scoop on what will happen next week:

The 5 remaining chefs give gourmet-cooking lessons to housewives. The women I saw in the preview did not look like ordinary housewives. They looked like those Housewives of Orange County!

[BballKates]

This show is not about cooking. If you compare it to a the other cooking show out there Top Chef these chefs are a joke. I think the show is more about who can handle the pressure, be a leader, improve and has the ability to run a restaurant. As much as it is about cooking I think he is looking for something else besides just cooking skills.

My prediction is that Cory or Bobby will win. I think Jen will go next, then Christina and Petrozza.

[TexasLady]

Two videos from the next episode. They do look like OC Housewives but not THE housewives. LOL

(Edited: I apologize, it appears the videos were removed from YouTube.)

Fox Network has previews of the episodes.  http://www.fox.com/Hellskitchen/