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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 32)
« Reply #350 on: January 04, 2021, 01:24:31 AM »
Season 32 has now been incorporated into the master list in the opening post.

Among other notable things:
Riley and Maddison have the best average placement of any third place team ever, 6th overall as of season 32.
The top three teams are the second ever final three teams ever to have a range of final placement average above 2.0000 and below 2.9999. The only other season was season one!

It may be late 2022 or 2023 before we see season 33. But we plan to keep this up.
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 32)
« Reply #351 on: December 29, 2021, 06:28:28 PM »
Yes, I am planning to include season 33, somehow, into the rankings. As to teams that didn’t return to complete filming, there is precedent for handling that. What isn’t clear is how many legs we end up with even though we presumably had 12 episodes.
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 32)
« Reply #352 on: December 30, 2021, 04:31:10 AM »
Yes, I am planning to include season 33, somehow, into the rankings. As to teams that didn’t return to complete filming, there is precedent for handling that. What isn’t clear is how many legs we end up with even though we presumably had 12 episodes.
Stay tuned.

I have no idea about the outcome of the rounds pre-covid, but a 1+1/2=1.0 rating for any teams who refuse to return would be hilarious and screw over all of us who keep track of TAR averages.
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 32)
« Reply #353 on: December 30, 2021, 09:52:26 AM »
Yes, I am planning to include season 33, somehow, into the rankings. As to teams that didn’t return to complete filming, there is precedent for handling that. What isn’t clear is how many legs we end up with even though we presumably had 12 episodes.
Stay tuned.

I have no idea about the outcome of the rounds pre-covid, but a 1+1/2=1.0 rating for any teams who refuse to return would be hilarious and screw over all of us who keep track of TAR averages.
That’s not how the withdrawal of David and Connor was treated a few seasons back. Although they were the first team to reach Phil in the episode, they skipped all tasks in order to inform Phil of their withdrawal for medical reasons. For purposes of the rankings they were treated as the last team to arrive. Based on what has been reported in the media from CBS, three legs were completed before the hiatus, so the issue will likely be addressed in leg 4.
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 32)
« Reply #354 on: January 10, 2022, 10:04:22 PM »
Below is the average leg placement leaderboard after the first two legs of season 33. How things will be handled after the leg three suspension in filming will be determined as the aired product becomes known. It should be noted that leg 2 was a NEL/KOR leg, so ten teams started the next leg.

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Ryan-Dusty 2 1 3/2 1.5000
Raquel-Cayla 3 4 7/2 3.5000
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 8/2 4.0000
Connie-Sam 7 2 9/2 4.5000
Kim-Penn 4 5 9/2 4.5000
Caro-Ray 5 6 11/2 5.5000
Arun-Natalia 9 3 12/2 6.0000
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 14/2 7.0000
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 17/2 8.5000
Lulu-Lala 10 10 20/2 10.0000
Michael-Moe 11 11/1 11.0000
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 32)
« Reply #355 on: January 10, 2022, 10:41:04 PM »
Below is the average leg placement leaderboard after the first two legs of season 33. How things will be handled after the leg three suspension in filming will be determined as the aired product becomes known. It should be noted that leg 2 was a NEL/KOR leg, so ten teams started the next leg.

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Raquel-Cayla 3 4 7/2 3.5000
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 8/2 4.0000
Connie-Sam 7 2 9/2 4.5000
Kim-Penn 4 5 9/2 4.5000
Caro-Ray 5 6 11/2 5.5000
Arun-Natalia 9 3 12/2 6.0000
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 14/2 7.0000
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 17/2 8.5000
Lulu-Lala 10 10 20/2 10.0000
Michael-Moe 11 11/1 11.0000

You forgot Ryan and Dusty who had the best average

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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 32)
« Reply #356 on: January 11, 2022, 04:59:07 PM »
Below is the average leg placement leaderboard after the first two legs of season 33. How things will be handled after the leg three suspension in filming will be determined as the aired product becomes known. It should be noted that leg 2 was a NEL/KOR leg, so ten teams started the next leg.

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Raquel-Cayla 3 4 7/2 3.5000
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 8/2 4.0000
Connie-Sam 7 2 9/2 4.5000
Kim-Penn 4 5 9/2 4.5000
Caro-Ray 5 6 11/2 5.5000
Arun-Natalia 9 3 12/2 6.0000
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 14/2 7.0000
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 17/2 8.5000
Lulu-Lala 10 10 20/2 10.0000
Michael-Moe 11 11/1 11.0000

You forgot Ryan and Dusty who had the best average
It was a copy and paste issue that's now been fixed.
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 32)
« Reply #357 on: January 13, 2022, 02:27:14 AM »
Based on what’s been hinted for the fourth episode, I’m likely to retain just using the actual ordinal number of keg placements and actual leg segments raced, even if a team was initially eliminated before the suspension, or was added at the fourth leg. This is consistent with this ranking being based on actual performance. Does suggest however, they may not be any lowest ranked team as has been the case in the previous 32 seasons.
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 32)
« Reply #358 on: January 13, 2022, 03:40:15 AM »
After 3 Legs.

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Ryan-Dusty 2 1 2 5/3 1.6666
Kim-Penn 4 5 1 10/3 3.3333
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 3 11/3 3.6666
Connie-Sam 7 2 4 13/3 4.3333
Raquel-Cayla 3 4 6 13/3 4.3333
Caro-Ray 5 6 5 16/3 5.3333
Arun-Natalia 9 3 10 22/3 7.3333
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 9 23/3 7.6666
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 8 25/3 8.3333
Lulu-Lala 10 10 7 27/3 9.0000
Michael-Moe 11 11/1 11.0000
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 32)
« Reply #359 on: January 18, 2022, 02:13:10 AM »
After reviewing media reports and previews, while I will rank all teams including teams that returned after being eliminated, based on their placement average based on the  total ordinal placements divided by the total leg segments raced, I will not assign a season placement to any of the season 33 teams. (That will be shown as “33-**” .) Assigning an overall season placement just doesn’t make much logical or consistent sense. That is the way the season 33 teams will be added to the overall rankings as well.

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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)
« Reply #360 on: January 19, 2022, 10:43:14 PM »
After 4 legs:

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Ryan-Dusty 2 1 2 1 6/4 1.5000
Kim-Penn 4 5 1 2 12/4 3.0000
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 3 11/3 3.6666
Raquel-Cayla 3 4 6 3 16/4 4.0000
Connie-Sam 7 2 4 13/3 4.3333
Caro-Ray 5 6 5 16/3 5.3333
Arun-Natalia 9 3 10 6 28/4 7.0000
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 9 5 28/4 7.0000
Lulu-Lala 10 10 7 4 31/4 7.7500
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 8 25/3 8.3333
Michael-Moe 11 7 18/2 9.0000
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)
« Reply #361 on: January 27, 2022, 01:57:47 AM »
After 5 legs:

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Ryan-Dusty 2 1 2 1 1 7/5 1.5000
Kim-Penn 4 5 1 2 3 15/5 3.0000
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 3 11/3 3.6666
Raquel-Cayla 3 4 6 3 4 20/5 4.0000
Connie-Sam 7 2 4 13/3 4.3333
Caro-Ray 5 6 5 16/3 5.3333
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 9 5 5 31/5 6.2000
Arun-Natalia 9 3 10 6 6 32/5 6.4000
Lulu-Lala 10 10 7 4 2 33/5 6.6000
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 8 25/3 8.3333
Michael-Moe 11 7 18/2 9.0000
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)
« Reply #362 on: February 03, 2022, 02:59:44 AM »
After 6 legs:

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Ryan-Dusty 2 1 2 1 1 3 10/6 1.6666
Kim-Penn 4 5 1 2 3 1 16/6 2.6666
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 3 11/3 3.6666
Raquel-Cayla 3 4 6 3 4 2 22/6 3.6666
Connie-Sam 7 2 4 13/3 4.3333
Caro-Ray 5 6 5 16/3 5.3333
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 9 5 5 6 37/6 6.1666
Lulu-Lala 10 10 7 4 2 5 38/6 6.3333
Arun-Natalia 9 3 10 6 6 4 36/6 6.4000
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 8 25/3 8.3333
Michael-Moe 11 7 18/2 9.0000


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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)
« Reply #363 on: February 09, 2022, 10:29:53 PM »
After 7 legs:

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Ryan-Dusty 2 1 2 1 1 3 3 13/7 1.8571
Kim-Penn 4 5 1 2 3 1 1 17/7 2.4285
Raquel-Cayla 3 4 6 3 4 2 2 24/7 3.4286
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 3 11/3 3.6666
Connie-Sam 7 2 4 13/3 4.3333
Caro-Ray 5 6 5 16/3 5.3333
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 9 5 5 6 37/6 6.1666
Lulu-Lala 10 10 7 4 2 5 4 42/7 6.0000
Arun-Natalia 9 3 10 6 6 4 5 43/7 6.1428
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 8 25/3 8.3333
Michael-Moe 11 7 18/2 9.0000

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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)
« Reply #364 on: February 17, 2022, 03:07:05 AM »
After 8 legs:

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Ryan-Dusty 2 1 2 1 1 3 3 3 16/8 2.0000
Kim-Penn 4 5 1 2 3 1 1 1 18/8 2.2500
Raquel-Cayla 3 4 6 3 4 2 2 2 26/8 3.2500
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 3 11/3 3.6666
Connie-Sam 7 2 4 13/3 4.3333
Caro-Ray 5 6 5 16/3 5.3333
Lulu-Lala 10 10 7 4 2 5 4 5 47/8 5.8750
Arun-Natalia 9 3 10 6 6 4 5 4 47/8 5.8750
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 9 5 5 6 37/6 6.1666
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 8 25/3 8.3333
Michael-Moe 11 7 18/2 9.0000
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)
« Reply #365 on: February 17, 2022, 06:22:40 PM »
Would it be possible to show at least once an across the top heading so we know what each column is?

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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)
« Reply #366 on: February 18, 2022, 01:54:14 AM »
Definitely at the end of the season. The way the forum's software works, it's almost impossible to add that much detail neatly and do it so it can be read coherently.
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)
« Reply #367 on: February 23, 2022, 09:58:07 PM »
After leg 9:

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Ryan-Dusty 2 1 2 1 1 3 3 3 4 20/9 2.2222
Kim-Penn 4 5 1 2 3 1 1 1 2 20/9 2.2222
Raquel-Cayla 3 4 6 3 4 2 2 2 1 27/9 3.0000
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 3 11/3 3.6666
Connie-Sam 7 2 4 13/3 4.3333
Caro-Ray 5 6 5 16/3 5.3333
Arun-Natalia 9 3 10 6 6 4 5 4 3 50/9 5.5555
Lulu-Lala 10 10 7 4 2 5 4 5 47/8 5.8750
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 9 5 5 6 37/6 6.1666
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 8 25/3 8.3333
Michael-Moe 11 7 18/2 9.0000


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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)
« Reply #368 on: March 08, 2022, 03:47:15 AM »
After leg 10:

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Ryan-Dusty 2 1 2 1 1 3 3 3 4 3 23/10 2.3000
Kim-Penn 4 5 1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 22/10 2.2000
Raquel-Cayla 3 4 6 3 4 2 2 2 1 1 28/10 2.8000
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 3 11/3 3.6666
Connie-Sam 7 2 4 13/3 4.3333
Caro-Ray 5 6 5 16/3 5.3333
Arun-Natalia 9 3 10 6 6 4 5 4 3 4 54/10 5.4000
Lulu-Lala 10 10 7 4 2 5 4 5 47/8 5.8750
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 9 5 5 6 37/6 6.1666
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 8 25/3 8.3333
Michael-Moe 11 7 18/2 9.0000


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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)
« Reply #369 on: March 08, 2022, 03:51:54 AM »
Final season placement averages:

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Kim-Penn 4 5 1 2 3 1 1 1 2 2 1 23/11 2.0909
Ryan-Dusty 2 1 2 1 1 3 3 3 4 3 3 26/11 2.3636
Raquel-Cayla 3 4 6 3 4 2 2 2 1 1 2 30/11 2.7272
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 3 11/3 3.6666
Connie-Sam 7 2 4 13/3 4.3333
Caro-Ray 5 6 5 16/3 5.3333
Arun-Natalia 9 3 10 6 6 4 5 4 3 4 54/10 5.4000
Lulu-Lala 10 10 7 4 2 5 4 5 47/8 5.8750
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 9 5 5 6 37/6 6.1666
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 8 25/3 8.3333
Michael-Moe 11 7 18/2 9.0000

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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)
« Reply #370 on: March 08, 2022, 08:22:13 PM »
I will be updating the master rankings list in the opening post of this thread soon. It takes time these days to incorporate each new season and of course season 33 has its own wrinkles.
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)
« Reply #371 on: May 30, 2022, 10:29:52 PM »
Season 33 has now been added to the list.
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)
« Reply #372 on: June 18, 2023, 02:46:21 AM »

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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)
« Reply #373 on: June 18, 2023, 01:16:40 PM »
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Re: Ranking the Teams -- A basis for comparing all teams (TAR 1 - 33)
« Reply #374 on: June 18, 2023, 02:45:25 PM »
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