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I found an error, though. In Season 7 you have it listed as being out of 12 legs, but if you count double-legs that would result in a total of 13 legs, not 12. That also means that Lynn & Alex raced through 9/13 legs, and Meredith and Gretchen raced through 11/13 legs.
Let's leave THIS thread for theschnauzers updates and discussion of that technique please.
All that info you are asking for is widely available, if you want to start another thread and ask for help, feel free jtarhead11. I personally find adding labels to teams rather distasteful though, but I see where you are going.
Back to topic please. :)
There are some problems with your proposal. Largely, how do you define "Differently-able"? A case could be made either way for Luke and Charla. Both these racers had a handicap while competing, but such a handicap wouldn't get them any parking privileges.
My point is, where do you draw the line? In these days, where obesity is considered a disability by some, who decides what makes differently-able on the race?
There are some problems with your proposal. Largely, how do you define "Differently-able"? A case could be made either way for Luke and Charla. Both these racers had a handicap while competing, but such a handicap wouldn't get them any parking privileges.
My point is, where do you draw the line? In these days, where obesity is considered a disability by some, who decides what makes differently-able on the race?
Hey now! I am no "disability" :neener: My deafness wasn't a big problem for me on the Race. Hence, my mom and I finished in Top Four in every leg for entire race! Isn't that pretty impressive?
But under the law, I am labeled as disability. Oh well.
Hey now! I am no "disability" My deafness wasn't a big problem for me on the Race. Hence, my mom and I finished in Top Four in every leg for entire race! Isn't that pretty impressive?
QuoteHey now! I am no "disability" My deafness wasn't a big problem for me on the Race. Hence, my mom and I finished in Top Four in every leg for entire race! Isn't that pretty impressive?
It most certainly is! Well, at least I think so, but checking-in 4th-place or better is an accomplishment that has only happened 4 times in AR history (including you and Margie). In fact, none of the 15 revealed winners have done that. Some of them maybe had a bump or two on the road, regardless, none of them had a consecutive Top 4 finish throughout the entire race.
With Tammy/Victor, if we were to disregard their near-Philimination, their (other) placement(s) would have been a virtual guarantee of a spot in the Final 3 (they placed 3rd or better in their first two legs and the rest starting with the 4th leg). Their average probably would have been a lot higher as well!
Let's leave THIS thread for theschnauzers updates and discussion of that technique please.
All that info you are asking for is widely available, if you want to start another thread and ask for help, feel free jtarhead11. I personally find adding labels to teams rather distasteful though, but I see where you are going.
Back to topic please. :)
:groan: Georgiapeach, didn't mean to offend, and I'm certainly not trying to "label" anymore than the race already does. I was merely trying to explore some of the inequities in casting. For example, did you know that, including season 16, only 7 openly gay women have been chosen for the race, while the number of openly gay men is at my count at least 21. Seems a bit unfair don't you think?? And how many young, Caucasian Barbie and Ken type teams have been on?? Seriously, too many to count, but then America never gets tired of Barbie and Ken. :lol:
But you're right, I should have started another thread to discuss this so as not to distract from theschnauzers AWESOME statistics skills!
Jet-Cord 2.0000 4/2
Joseph-Heidi 3.5000 7/2
Jeff-Jordan 3.5000 7/2
Monique-Shawne 3.5000 7/2
Carol-Brandy 4.5000 9/2
Brent-Caite 5.5000 11/2
Steve-Allison 5.5000 11/2
Jordan-Daniel 8.0000 16/2
Louie-Michael 9.0000 18/2
Jody-Shannon 10.0000 20/2
Adrian-Dana 11.0000 11/1
mswood, personally, I'm waiting another couple of legs or so before comparisons to prior seasons. If you were to look at many of those teams after the second leg, their performance after two legs wouldn't have suggested a top 3 finish, much less a win.
But as I mentioned in my previous post, I haven't seen three bottom teams earn the exact same placements in each of the first two legs before. That's just peculiar.
Others that have done that include Joe/Bill, Kris/Jon, and Eric/Jeremy. And yeah, it's a shame that you didn't win. For a team to finish strong in the early stages, then mid-race, and then throughout the final segments of the race (where one would be very exhausted) for the win would be a feat that would be rather difficult to match.
The most impressive is probably Dustin & Kandice, who did in on All-Stars, against a group of teams who had raced before.
Please read my introductory post. I fully recognize the limits of objective only measurements, but on the other hand, trying to play the adjustment games is a minefield because of the subjective element such a process would entail.
As to your Eric and Danielle example, let me tell a story. From season three through season 14, I played a player prediction game at TWoP. That documented who I picked to finish Final 3 if not win, which is why I mention it. When season 11 came around, I predicted that Eric and Danielle would win All-Stars. I based it on the fact that Eric was half of the best performing team by objective measure ever (and Eric-Jeremy still are) and my suspicion that like Zach in season three, Eric would have to "carry" Danielle through the season. (Which pretty much was the case.) You don't need twp great Racers to have a potential final three teams, you need to have one, though, and the other teams member has to listen and follow. (Which pretty much is what Danielle did, and they won.) And I don't share your high opinion of Charla and Mirna. I think Eric was clearly the better Racer than either of them, and I think he proved it on All-Stars.
(To finish the story, I decided after season 14 that I wouldn't play the prediction games because of the spoiler issue with such games. Other players were using spoilers to play, and win, and I decided that wasn't fair to me. So had that site's game continued, I would not have paticipated last season and this season. And my choices tor last season and this season are in posts at RFF, so there is a record.)
Now if anyone wants to try to come up with some objective mechanism to measure strong cast or whatnot, they're perfectly free to try. I just don't think that it's possible, and while the approach I use isn't infallible, I truly don't believe there's going to be a better way of dealing with the season-to-season variations as to the structure of the Race course or the casts.
As to this:QuoteThe most impressive is probably Dustin & Kandice, who did in on All-Stars, against a group of teams who had raced before.
Dustin and Kandice had also previously raced before All-Stars, and maybe had an advatnage since they most recently Raced before All-Stars.
The thing with these is one we need to all (myself included) remember that the requirements for being a strong team are different each season.
Things like remembering when judging seasons 1-4 that teams with great placement averages had to deal with the possibility of another team getting in first not to superior racing but due to their being a fast forward available in all but the final leg. One could certainly argue that that really handicaps teams from season 1-4. Then you have the fact that seasons 1-5 allowed one racer to do (though not all teams did some very much split their tasks and responsibilities during the race) which makes it difficult to compare seasons 6-16 to earlier races. Then you have seasons 13 and up that for the most part have removed what was one of the biggest factors of the race and that is the ability to drive and navigate long distance through various countries. Then you have things like the Yield or U-Turn where you can deliberately impede the progress of your fellow racers (something seasons 1-4 didn't have). Then you have your competitors, and let me say that no season has across the board strong racers, each has usually have 4 - 5 teams that simple suck. And I think its actually gotten worse. Look at seasons 13-15. Those seasons have the most penalties, teams that get eliminated through their own carelessness, and choices that just boggle the mind.
David Junior on some of your points.
If season 5 had to require the women to do half the tasks, I think it would have ended close to the same. Christie seemed the most driven of the women (in couples), their were no strong male teams at all (so no worries about that), in fact I think it a lot about that seasons that teams like Kami & Karli (who over all just sucked as racers), Charla & Mirna (who managed some flights well, but also had huge problems), and Linda and Karen (who had drive god bless them, but my god they weren't good racers) lasted so late in the race.
Nick & Starr didn't face strong competition from many teams. This was a season that is often considered the idiots seasons. Toni & Dallas (I loved them) killed themselves, Ken & Tina (a good team), Terence & Sarah (Sorry but they weren't that good, probably due to their inability to work well together), Then you had the idiot Frats (one of the most incompetent teams the race has ever had).
Then you had Meghan & Cheyne and lets face it, we have a season were three teams literally take themselves out of the race (Mika & Canaan, Zev & Justin, The Globetrotters), another team taken out due to the inability to perform either RB (and one of them shouldn't have been that hard), a father/son team that was never that competitive. That leaves you with Sam & Dan (who were good, but erratic and their ability to work together under pressure was a huge flaw), and Brian & Ericka who truly only made it due to two other teams self destructing (similar to what happen in getting the Frats in the final three of season 13).
I have to seriously disagree about Charla & Mirna. They raced incredibly poorly (especially in season 11). Sure they made the final three but many teams that underperform make the final three.
When you break down the episodes and figure out the time to complete the days events Charla & Mirna were consistently one of the slowest teams.
They have two saving graces, that was the ability (on occasion to get help from locals, other times not at all as they can be very abrasive) and the ability to get themselves either good flights or bumped over others on those flights.
They are poor navigators, poor drivers, and didn't perform great on many tasks.
There is just no real evidence when either just taking simply things like Pit Stop Placement, taking time to complete the days tasks, ect that Charla & Mirna are even close to Eric & Danielle. And Eric & Jeremy were a much, much stronger team then Eric & Danielle it's not even close according to the racers themselves.
Now I thank they had more to overcome and that many people like them, but the facts as presented on the show (again those can be in error, but its what we have to work with) don't present them as a strong team. Except of course in arranging flights (in which they do seem to have very strong skills both in research and persuasion.
I agree with mswood. Eric & Danielle may very well have been that season's strongest team (or tied with Dustin & Kandice and Rob & Amber), not counting their truly awful luck. This is why placement is not always a good indicator of racing skill. But what other truly objective measurement do we have?
I'd like to know the basis for Season 5's field being considered so strong.
Yes, Colin and Christie finished in the top 2 a then-record number of times in a row. But who else did that season have?
Marshall and Lance, who's placements were all over the place until they quit (Note that they may have performed much better had the injury not occured, but we can only speculate)
Charla and Mirna, who argued and fought their way across 4 continents before coming to their end in Africa. They never really wowed me with any of their legs.
Kami and Karli- Enough said :res:
Linda and Karen- Another team that never really wowed me. They finished either mid-table or towards the back in every leg bar 3. (In fact, apart from these legs, their best finish was 6th in a leg of 9.) They weren't that great, and probably wouldn't be so memorable without Karen's amazing effort on THAT Roadblock.
Brandon and Nicole- They wound up with a handful of good results, and were in the middle so much that I didn't really know they existed until the Fast Forward drama.
Chip and Kim- Perhaps, with Brandon and Nicole, one of the only decent teams in the season.
It should also be noted that Colin performed 8 Roadblocks to Christie's 1.
Basically I'd like to know why Colin and Christy are considered to be so great, but Nick and Starr and Megan and Cheyne are not. Meghan and Cheyne managed to defeat the juggernauts that were Flight Time & Big Easy. And Nick and Starr managed to put together a record string of wins, against Ken and Tina and Toni and Dallas, teams that could have easily won any other season.
Nick and Starr had to defeat 4 if not 5 very competitive, compotent (for the most part) F6 teams to win their season
Meghan and Cheyne faced down 3 powerhouse M/M teams, and another team with some of the best luck on the race to get the $1 million
Heck, if it weren't for that Passport debacle, it probably would've been 4/5 M/M teams with M/C
Chip and Kim (you have to admit that they are probably the worst winners in terms of overall performance)
The thing with these is one we need to all (myself included) remember that the requirements for being a strong team are different each season.
Things like remembering when judging seasons 1-4 that teams with great placement averages had to deal with the possibility of another team getting in first not to superior racing but due to their being a fast forward available in all but the final leg. One could certainly argue that that really handicaps teams from season 1-4. Then you have the fact that seasons 1-5 allowed one racer to do (though not all teams did some very much split their tasks and responsibilities during the race) which makes it difficult to compare seasons 6-16 to earlier races. Then you have seasons 13 and up that for the most part have removed what was one of the biggest factors of the race and that is the ability to drive and navigate long distance through various countries. Then you have things like the Yield or U-Turn where you can deliberately impede the progress of your fellow racers (something seasons 1-4 didn't have). Then you have your competitors, and let me say that no season has across the board strong racers, each has usually have 4 - 5 teams that simple suck. And I think its actually gotten worse. Look at seasons 13-15. Those seasons have the most penalties, teams that get eliminated through their own carelessness, and choices that just boggle the mind.
for me at least, M/C and N/S had to work throughout their season to make it to the end (which they did with ease), and win. They were just fortunate in that some of their biggest competition kept shooting themselves in the foot along the way.
all Colin and Christie had to do was wait at the top whilst all the sucky teams fell off the pace, to cruise into the finals and win the million. and they couldn't even pull that off.
Colin and Christie - strong? No doubt about it. The strongest team on the race ever? I doubt it.
Nick and Starr - strongest team ever? eh, i felt there were stronger teams than them, but probably would've done just as well in S5
Meghan and Cheyne - I don't think they fit the label as strongest team ever either. But, they too would've dominated in S5 as well
believe me, I don't think S13 and S15 were even close to the most competitive season ever, by any stretch of the imagination. But, S5 doesn't pop up in my mind as a race that was full of competition and super strong teams either.
Actually most people considered the latter seasons (minus the final task) to be dumbed down version of the race. With teams being spoon feed more information on what needs to get done then previous years. The one primary difference has been the increased use of the final task being more mental then physical. And the race for the most part isn't strength based, endurance based sure, but that is completely different from physical strength. It is also something that has been lessoned now that the race is typically 6 -7 days shorter then it was with seasons 1 -11.The thing with these is one we need to all (myself included) remember that the requirements for being a strong team are different each season.
Things like remembering when judging seasons 1-4 that teams with great placement averages had to deal with the possibility of another team getting in first not to superior racing but due to their being a fast forward available in all but the final leg. One could certainly argue that that really handicaps teams from season 1-4. Then you have the fact that seasons 1-5 allowed one racer to do (though not all teams did some very much split their tasks and responsibilities during the race) which makes it difficult to compare seasons 6-16 to earlier races. Then you have seasons 13 and up that for the most part have removed what was one of the biggest factors of the race and that is the ability to drive and navigate long distance through various countries. Then you have things like the Yield or U-Turn where you can deliberately impede the progress of your fellow racers (something seasons 1-4 didn't have). Then you have your competitors, and let me say that no season has across the board strong racers, each has usually have 4 - 5 teams that simple suck. And I think its actually gotten worse. Look at seasons 13-15. Those seasons have the most penalties, teams that get eliminated through their own carelessness, and choices that just boggle the mind.
I think what's most relevant was that for the first nine seasons, TAR was a physical game, while for seasons 11 and beyond it's been more of a game of intelligence (when there was intelligence to be had, that is), with 10 being a mix of the two. It's why you see big, strong teams fizzling out mid-race now, while teams like Nick & Starr and Tammy & Victor dominate.
No, just no. They weren't even close to the same level as Rob & Amber and Dustin & Kandice, and this has to be the first time I've seen anyone ever suggest as much. A strong team doesn't finish over 12 hours behind the lead team, twice. A strong team doesn't need the most contrived equalizer in Amazing Race history to catch up to the lead teams. A strong team doesn't make three critical airport mistakes that should have gotten them eliminated, mistakes such as:
how did Louie and Michael jump up so far when they got 8th?
this after getting 9th on leg 1 and 2?
Actually most people considered the latter seasons (minus the final task) to be dumbed down version of the race. With teams being spoon feed more information on what needs to get done then previous years. The one primary difference has been the increased use of the final task being more mental then physical. And the race for the most part isn't strength based, endurance based sure, but that is completely different from physical strength. It is also something that has been lessoned now that the race is typically 6 -7 days shorter then it was with seasons 1 -11.
I have to disagree here. While I dislike Eric/Danielle, I can't fault them for the unpredictability of flights during the Hajj, or for the order in which racers getting on or off standby. Moreover, both Kevin/Drew and Bill/Joe ended up at least 12 hours behind Rob/Brennan and Frank/Margarita in Beijing - would you not say they were strong teams?
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First, I would never call Eric & Danielle a great team, but yeah they raced better then Charla & Mirna. I don't discount that teams strength (I even stated it being their ability to either find flights, or to use their attitude to push their way above other teams which they have done in more then one season) and their ability (at times because they can be very grating) to get help from others (though again this can also hurt them, just look at the first episode to see a great example of this).
But look at what happens during this season and judge who performed smarter and better.
Who is better at navigation?
WHo is better at driving?
Who is better on foot getting from point A to point B?
Out of all the tasks performed who is better?
Who is better with Flights?
Who is better with ferns?
Clearly the first four are easily on Eric & Danielle's side, not just through the first four episode but through the full race.
The flight issue I also give to Charla & Mirna (though comments below because they also had problems and some of what happened was very much luck and not based off of statistical patterns of the show).
Then we have getting help from ferns, And this well we certainly see Charla & Mirna employee locals for a lot of help. But how successful was this. In fact rarely was this a factor for good for this team (well maybe better then what they would have done on their own, but still not good). The one exception is according to IZAD (who followed this team from Baku caves to the entrance of the Pit Stop and helped Charla with the bike roadblock) it had some value, but they still took hours longer to complete each and every part of that leg then any other team. And thats with a lot of local help. Eric & Danielle on the other hand rarely sought help from locals besides the typical directions (which they already did better then Charla & Mirna to begin with).
Its very clear that the majority of all the aspects of the race, Eric & Danielle did better.
Remove the issue of three of the flights and honestly tell me that Charla & Mirna performed stronger? And if you rationally cant then you can't say that tasks were the only thing Eric & Danielle did better.
On the flight issue. The first two flight issues were not based on errors. Statistically Eric & Danielle made the correct choices.
Charla & Mirna (first major flight issue) gambled on flying to a location where not only did they not have tickets, but they weren't on standby. That was a huge gamble and not something that historically is successful on the race (They even state its a big risk). In fact look at Season four to see this example of racing go horrible wrong for a team. That worked out was luck. Just three episodes earlier they weren't able to get standby, so they know that even with a film crew they aren't always going to be successful. On the standby list (later same episode) we can't actually judge. Since we don't see or hear the order they are put on standby, we don't know if it matches the order listed later in the next country (and just from my own experience plus watching this show it doesn't always). Historically all the teams (including Teri & Ian and the Guidos made a much safer and rational choice.
The next airport issue. In the shows history how many times have the scheduled connecting flights provided not been meet? Out of over 200 plus flights? Well the answer is none. Now teams have chosen to take alternate routes themselves and lost connections, but never one set up by production. Never. You think it was a mistake for Eric & Danielle to try another travel agent. Yet they knew those 4 teams had been there (when they arrived by a clock on the wall and closely matching dialogue) 7 hours and 10 minutes, and managed to find nothing. Yes 20 minutes later seats did open up on an earlier flight, but you are assuming those same seats wouldn't show up at the other agency. Or that somehow Eric & Danielle might have been able to book those seats at that same agency faster then Charla & Mirna group (as that group is now using both agents). I mean logically how is their choice wrong? Do they see these teams having any success? Nope no at all, in fact the length of time that they tried is staggering. Is there a logical reason not to try another agency? No, not with the information they have. And worse comes to worse they have the up to this point 100% reliable arranged flight and connections. There is no logical reason to suspect their arranged flights would not work out. And curiously since that date, we have yet to see it happen again. Teams can't know what will occur. Its like saying Eric & Dani should have taken that flight that arrived at 3:10pm in Warsaw (4 hours after the arranged flight) because they should have known their flight wouldn't work out. With the arranged flight they would have finished 3rd. There was no logical way to rationalize that staying there would have been better for them.
The final flight problem, yeah while its a minor error (as teams aren't often pushed in front of other teams it has happened in the race's history so it was based on history a possibility). And that was the only flight issue that they truly had even marginal control over.
Team This Week Week 4 Week 3 Week 2 Trend
Jet-Cord 2.4000 12/5 2.2500 9/4 (1.6666) (2.0000) Stable
Steve-Allison 3.4000 17/5 4.7500 15/4 (4.3333) (5.5000) Rising
Carol-Brandy 4.4000 22/5 4.2500 17/4 (4.0000) (4.5000) Stable
Jeff-Jordan 5.4000 27/5 5.0000 20/4 (4.0000) (3.5000) Dropping
Louie-Michael 5.6000 28/5 6.7500 27/4 (8.3333) (9.0000) Rising Sharply
Brent-Caite 6.2000 31/5 6.2500 25/4 (6.0000) (5.5000) Dropping Slowly
Jordan-Daniel 6.4000 32/5 7.0000 28/4 (7.3333) (8.0000) Rising
Joseph-Heidi 4.4000 22/5
Monique-Shawne 5.3333 16/3
Jody-Shannon 10.0000 20/2
Adrian-Dana 11.0000 11/1
If the spoils are correct this has to be the worst (based on performance to date) set of final four in race history.Maybe they'll redeem themselves later, like Louie & Mike are doing right now.
If the spoils are correct this has to be the worst (based on performance to date) set of final four in race history.Sure Louie & Michael have two wins, but that really doesn't help us judge this current episode. This being only the 5th (or is it now 6th) episode of TAR history without some form of equalizer it makes it difficult for them not to win this leg. To truly judge the performance we need departure times next week to compare against starting times this week to really judge how ell they've done (though clearly they have done better).
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Maybe they'll redeem themselves later, like Louie & Mike are doing right now.
theschnauzers, I noticed that Gary/Matt are listed as 15-04 instead of 15-05.Fixed.
Projected average placement for each team if that team ends up running the table on a 12-leg race:
07-01 Uchenna/Joyce 35/12 2.9166
07-01 Uchenna/Joyce 41/13 3.1538
What I like of this season so far is that the leader board is much harder to predict than Season 4 :lol:
True. What with a complete reversal of finishes and inconsistent teams!
By the way, is it just me who noticed Carol/Brandy's alternating finishes between 2nd and 5th?
True. What with a complete reversal of finishes and inconsistent teams!
By the way, is it just me who noticed Carol/Brandy's alternating finishes between 2nd and 5th?
No, I didn't because the record for then is:
6th
3rd
3rd
5th
5th
2nd
2nd
5th
Everbloom, you are one of many trying to discover non-existent patterns.
I really hope Brent & Caite don't win. Their mediocre performance to get to the Final 4 is being portrayed as "evidence" that Caite is not stupid, and the way things are being edited really implies a Brent & Caite win. Almost like the producers are desperate for us to like them. I just hope it isn't so. :(you should re-open your rant thread
I really hope Brent & Caite don't win. Their mediocre performance to get to the Final 4 is being portrayed as "evidence" that Caite is not stupid, and the way things are being edited really implies a Brent & Caite win. Almost like the producers are desperate for us to like them. I just hope it isn't so. :(you should re-open your rant thread
you should re-open your rant thread
Let's not. :lol:
Perhaps the worse objectively performing final three, and definitiely the worst average placemenr for a winning team, ever. Very disappointing.
16-01 Jordan-Daniel 52/12 4.3333
16-03 Brent-Caite 52/12 4.3333
16-04 Louie-Michael 48/11 4.3636
16-08 Joseph-Heidi 22/5 4.4000
Well no matter which team I like or don't I have to admit that I can't find fault in the teams that have won since season 12. By removing mid leg equalizers they have put the final leg in the hand of the racers and dumb luck. Now that doesn't mean I have disliked all the earlier winners (because that isn''t true), but if you win, by god I want you to have a run the leg better then any other team. I don't want you to be just the team that did good on one final task and only finished first because an equalizer mid leg erased the lead another team had on you. Thats why I love the new lay out for legs, you can build a lead, and you can lose a lead, but it isn't due to the manipulation of the producers.
I still think there should be an occasional Hours of Operation just for old times' sake.
I've always thought that TAR's strongest legs occur in the middle of the race, and that usually the finale is poor in comparison to the rest of the season. I will admit that TAR 12 has fixed a lot of the problems involved. Now if only the tasks on the final leg were more challenging (I really want to see another TAR 14-style memory task, that looked brutal).
I still think there should be an occasional Hours of Operation just for old times' sake.
I've always thought that TAR's strongest legs occur in the middle of the race, and that usually the finale is poor in comparison to the rest of the season. I will admit that TAR 12 has fixed a lot of the problems involved. Now if only the tasks on the final leg were more challenging (I really want to see another TAR 14-style memory task, that looked brutal).
I though TAR12 was tricky enough? memory + puzzle solving IN THE COLD *brrr*
TAR 12 was very tricky too. But TAR 14 had hundreds of surfboards and confounded pretty much all the teams remaining.
I could always post my compiled record of placements by season that shows each leg. (And I have all of the uberleg midpoints which Wikipedia doesn't have.)
Leaderboard Trends
..............................................................This Week.......... (Last Week)................(Two Weeks Ago)
Team.......................L1...L2....L3..........Pl/Legs ..Aver......(Pl/Legs ..Aver..).......(Pl/Legs Aver..)
Brook-Claire...........04 01... 06........03......14/4 3.5000 (11/3..........3.6666) (05/2 2.5000) Slowly rising
Nat-Kat....................02 07... 08.......01........18/4 4.5000 (17/3..........5.6666) (09/2 4.5000) Little Movement
Jill-Thomas.............01 05... 07........05.......18/4 4.5000 (13/3..........4.3333) (06/2 3.0000) Little Movement
Katie-Rachel...........05 02... 04........08......19/4 4.7500 (11/3..........3.6666) (07/2 3.5000) Slowly falling
Gary-Mallory...........06 09... 02.......02.......19/4 4.7500 (17/3..........5.6666) (15/2 7.5000) Rising
Chad-Stephanie.......08 04... 03.......07........22/4 5.5000 (15/3..........5.0000) (12/2 6.0000) Little Movement
Michael-Kevin..........07 03.. 09........04....... 23/4 5.7500 (19/3..........6.3333) (10/2 5.0000) Slowly Dropping
Nick-Vicki...............10 08.... 05.......06....... 29/4 7.2500 (23/3..........7.6666) (18/2 9.0000) Rising
Connor-Jonathan.....03 06 01 09 19/4 4.75
Andie-Jenna.......09 10 19/2 9.50
Ron-Tony...........11 11/1 11.00
Leaderboard Trends After 6 Legs:
Team...............This Leg (6).....Last Leg (5).....Previous Leg (4)..Trend
Nat-Kat............23/6 3.8333.....19/5 3.8000.....18/4 4.5000.....Slowly Rising
Brook-Claire.....21/6 3.5000.....19/5 3.8000.....14/4 3.5000.....Stable
Gary-Mallory....27/6 4.5000.....21/5 4.2000.....19/4 4.7500.....Very Slowly Rising
Jill-Thomas......22/6 3.6666.....21/5 4.2000.....18/4 4.5000.....Rising
Michael-Kevin...30/6 5.0000.....27/5 5.4000.....23/4 5.7500.....Rising
Chad-Stephanie.34/6 5.6666.....29/5 5.8000.....22/4 5.5000.....Slowly Falling
Nick-Vicki.........42/6 7.0000.....35/5 7.0000.....29/4 7.2500.....Stable
Katie-Rachel.......27/5 5.4000
Connor-Jonathan....19/4 4.7500
Andie-Jenna........19/2 9.5000
Ron-Tony...........11/1 11.0000
After Leg 7 (by finishing order):
Team....................Leg 7............Leg 6............Leg 5..............Trend
Nat/Kat..................24/7 3.429....23/6 3.833....19/5 3.800.......Rising
Brooke/Claire.........23/7 3.286....21/6 3.500....19/5 3.800.......Rising
Nick/Vicki................45/7 6.429....42/6 7.000....35/5 7.000.......Slowly rising
Gary/Mallory...........31/7 4.429....27/6 4.500....21/5 4.200.......Stable
Jill/Thomas..............27/7 3.857....22/6 3.666....21/5 4.200......Very slowly rising
Chad/Stephanie......40/7 5.714....34/6 5.666....29/5 5.800.....Stable
Michael/Kevin..........37/7 5.286
Katie/Rachel............27/5 5.400
Connor/Jonathan....19/4 4.750
Andie/Jenna............19/2 9.500
Ron/Tony.................11/1 11.000
Leaderboard Trends After 9 Legs:
Team...............This Leg (9).....Last Leg (8 ).....Previous Leg (7)..Trend
Brook-Claire.......31/9 3.4444....27/8 3.3750....23/7 3.2857....slowly falling
Nat-Kat............32/9 3.5555....29/8 3.6250....24/7 3.4285....steady
Jill-Thomas........30/9 3.3333....29/8 3.6250....27/7 3.8571....slowly rising
Nick-Vicki.........50/9 5.5555....48/8 6.0000....45/7 6.4285....slowly rising
Chad-Stephanie.....46/9 5.1111
Gary-Mallory.......37/8 4.6250
Michael-Kevin......37/7 5.2857
Katie-Rachel.......27/5 5.4000
Connor-Jonathan....19/4 4.7500
Andie-Jenna........19/2 9.5000
Ron-Tony...........11/1 11.0000
Leaderboard Trends After 10 Legs:
Team...............This Leg (10)......Last Leg (9).....Previous Leg (8)..Trend
Brook-Claire.......34/10 3.4000....31/9 3.4444.....27/8 3.3750....steady
Nat-Kat............33/10 3.3000....32/9 3.5555.....29/8 3.6250....slowly rising
Jill-Thomas........32/10 3.2000....30/9 3.3333.....29/8 3.6250....slowly rising
Nick-Vicki.........54/10 5.4000....50/9 5.5555.....48/8 6.0000....slowly rising (due to number of teams left)
Chad-Stephanie.....46/9 5.1111
Gary-Mallory.......37/8 4.6250
Michael-Kevin......37/7 5.2857
Katie-Rachel.......27/5 5.4000
Connor-Jonathan....19/4 4.7500
Andie-Jenna........19/2 9.5000
Ron-Tony...........11/1 11.0000
Leaderboard Trends After 11 Legs:
Team...............This Leg (11)......Last Leg (10)....Previous Leg (9)...Trend
Jill-Thomas........33/11 3.0000......32/10 3.2000....30/9 3.3333.....stable
Brook-Claire.......36/11 3.2737......34/10 3.4000....31/9 3.4444.....stable
Nat-Kat............36/11 3.2737......33/10 3.3000....32/9 3.5555.....stable
Nick-Vicki.........58/11 5.2727
Chad-Stephanie.....46/9 5.1111
Gary-Mallory.......37/8 4.6250
Michael-Kevin......37/7 5.2857
Katie-Rachel.......27/5 5.4000
Connor-Jonathan....19/4 4.7500
Andie-Jenna........19/2 9.5000
Ron-Tony...........11/1 11.0000
Code: [Select]Leaderboard Trends After 11 Legs:
Team...............This Leg (11)......Last Leg (10)....Previous Leg (9)...Trend
Jill-Thomas........33/11 3.0000......32/10 3.2000....30/9 3.3333.....stable
Brook-Claire.......36/11 3.2737......34/10 3.4000....31/9 3.4444.....stable
Nat-Kat............36/11 3.2737......33/10 3.3000....32/9 3.5555.....stable
Nick-Vicki.........58/11 5.2727
Chad-Stephanie.....46/9 5.1111
Gary-Mallory.......37/8 4.6250
Michael-Kevin......37/7 5.2857
Katie-Rachel.......27/5 5.4000
Connor-Jonathan....19/4 4.7500
Andie-Jenna........19/2 9.5000
Ron-Tony...........11/1 11.0000
Some "firsts"
First time I've see final three teams this close going into the final leg. (There have been two teams tied, or nearly so, but not three. And these three teams have 9 of the 11 leg winners.
Also unusual, the spread between fourth and ninth place is unusually tight. (from 4.6250 to 5.4000 and when you add in the top three teams the range is 3.0000 to 5.4000, again a very tight spread.)
This says to me that this may have been the season with the greatest spread of parity ever.
Next week, we'll give the final averages that will go into the main list for season 17, andShow contenta look at season 18.
09-02 Eric/Jeremy 22/13 1.6923
15-01 Meghan/Cheyne 24/12 2.0000
14-01 Tammy/Victor 27/12 2.2500
07-02 Rob/Amber 30/13 2.3076
01-02 Frank/Margarita 31/13 2.3846
06-02 Kris/Jon 31/13 2.3846
10-01Tyler/James 31/13 2.3846
13-01 Nick/Starr 27/11 2.4545
01-01 Rob/Brennan 32/13 2.4615
05-02 Colin/Christie 32/13 2.4615
Dont forget that Leg 3, for Tammy/Victor, started out with the emergency landing of their flight to Romania......that had to shake them up.
just a minor detail:Fixed.
you have GM listed as Gary-Malloy
Original Season
Place Average Team.................... L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 L7 L8 L9 L10 L11 L12 Pl/Legs Aver
14-04 4.2727 18-01 Kisha-Jen 3 4 4 5 4 6 3 4 2 2 2 1 40/12 3.3333
15-04 3.0909 18-02 Flight Time-Big Easy 5 2 5 6 6 7 1 2 5 1 3 2 45/12 3.7500
17-06 4.6250 18-03 Gary-Mallory 1 9 2 3 2 1 4 6 4 3 1 3 39/12 3.2500
15-09 6.0000 18-04 Zev-Justin 4 1 1 8 8 4 2 1 1 4 4 (eliminated) 38/11 3.4545
12-05 3.6250 18-05 Kent-Vyxsin 10 7 7 9 5 5 6 3 3 5 (eliminated) 60/10 6.0000
16-02 2.5833 18-06 Jet-Cord 11 3 6 2 1 2 5 5 6 (eliminated) 41/9 4.5555
12-02 3.4545 18-07 Ronald-Christina 8 10 3 4 7 3 7 (eliminated) 42/7 6.0000
14-03 2.7500 18-08 Margie-Luke 7 5 8 1 3 8 (eliminated) 32/6 5.3333
14-02 3.9166 18-09 Cara-Jaime 6 8 9 7 9 (eliminated) 39/5 7.8000
14-06 3.5714 18-10 Mel-Mike 9 6 10 (eliminated) 25/3 8.3333
14-08 4.5000 18-11 Amanda-Kris 2 11 (eliminated) 13/2 6.5000
Thanks for the analysis! It's amazing with 5 leg wins Andy and Tommy still do not have the best averages thanks to their sucky first leg. :lol:
Thanks for the analysis! It's amazing with 5 leg wins Andy and Tommy still do not have the best averages thanks to their sucky first leg. :lol:
Yeah, it's interesting how several really good teams have lousy first legs that ruin their averages. Derek & Drew, Colin & Christie, and Ron & Kelly come to mind.
Andy - Tommy......2.545 (eliminated)
Team L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 L7 L8 L9 L10 L11 L12 Pl/Legs Aver
19-01 Ernie - Cindy 1 4 5 5 3 5 2 1 2 3 2 1 34/12 2.833
19-02 Jeremy - Sandy 2 6 3 3 7 3 6 5 3 2 1 2 43/12 3.583
19-03 Amani - Marcus 5 9 6 6 1 7 4 4 1 4 3 3 54/12 4.416
19-04 Andy - Tommy 7 1 1 1 5 1 1 3 4 1 4 29/11 2.636
19-05 Bill - Cathi 11 7 7 7 2 6 3 2 5 5 50/10 5.500
19-06 Laurence - Zac 6 2 2 4 6 4 5 6 35/8 4.375
19-07 Justin - Jennifer3 8 4 2 4 2 7 30/7 4.285
19-08 Liz - Marie 10 5 8 8 8 39/5 7.800
19-09 Kaylani - Lisa 9 3 9 21/3 7.000
19-10 Ethan - Jenna 4 10 14/2 7.000
19-11 Ron - Bill 8 11 19/2 9.500
Aver=Average Placement Pl/Legs=total placements divided by total legs; L1, L2, etc.= Placement by leg.
Amani & Marcus's average should be 4.417. It's 53/12, not 54/12
Team....................L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 L7 L8 L9 L10 L11 L12 Pl/Legs Aver
Rachel-Dave 1 1 2/2 1.0000
Art-J.J. 3 2 5/2 2.5000
Brendon-Rachel 2 4 6/2 3.0000
Nary-Jamie 4 6 10/2 5.0000
Kerri-Stacy 7 5 12/2 6.0000
Mark-Bopper 9 3 12/2 6.0000
Vanessa-Ralph 5 7 12/2 6.0000
Elliot-Andrew 6 9 15/2 7.5000
Joey-Danny 10 8 18/2 9.0000
20-10 Dave-Cherie 8 10 (eliminated) 18/2 9.0000
20-11 Misa-Maiya 11 (eliminated) 11/1 11.0000
I hope that Rachel and Dave bets the record,with most wins. It is now 7 wins in the Us-version.
I hope that Rachel and Dave bets the record,with most wins. It is now 7 wins in the Us-version.
Meghan and Cheyne set that awesome record <33
I hope Dave & Rachel wouldn't get first place too often anymore. I like them but it would make the race boring, like what Andy & Tommy did. I want the prizes to be distributed widely as possible. So many teams will go home happy. :<3I just wanna see a new record.
I think Bill & Cathy total is 53, not 50. JSYK :tup:
Great job! Anyways.
Team....................L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 L7 L8 L9 L10 L11 L12 Pl/Legs Aver
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Team....................L1 L2 L3 L4 L5 L6 L7 L8 L9 L10 L11 L12 Pl/Legs Aver
Art-J.J. 3 2 1 6/3 2.0000
Rachel-Dave 1 1 6 8/3 2.6666
Brendon-Rachel 2 4 2 8/3 2.6666
Nary-Jamie 4 6 5 15/3 5.0000
Mark-Bopper 9 3 4 16/3 5.3333
Kerri-Stacy 7 5 7 19/3 6.3333
Vanessa-Ralph 5 7 8 20/3 6.6666
Joey-Danny 10 8 3 21/3 7.0000
20-09 Elliot-Andrew 6 9 9 (eliminated) 24/3 8.0000
20-10 Dave-Cherie 8 10 (eliminated) 18/2 9.0000
20-11 Misa-Maiya 11 (eliminated) 11/1 11.0000
Leaderboard Trends After 4 Legs:
Team............This Leg (4)....Last Leg (3)....Prior Leg (2)...First Leg (1)...Trend
Art-J.J. 1.7500 2.0000 2.5000 3.0000 slowly rising
Rachel-Dave 2.5000 2.6666 1.0000 1.0000 slowly falling
Brendon-Rachel 3.5000 2.6666 3.0000 2.0000 slowly falling
Nary-Jamie 5.0000 5.0000 5.0000 4.0000 stable
Mark-Bopper 6.0000 5.3333 6.0000 9.0000 stable
Vanessa-Ralph 6.0000 6.6666 6.0000 5.0000 stable
Joey-Danny 6.0000 7.0000 9.0000 10.0000 rising
Kerri-Stacy 6.5000 6.3333 6.0000 7.0000 slowly falling
I would say that Kerri and Stacey are stable actually.
7 -> 6 -> 6.3 -> 6.5
I would say that Kerri and Stacey are stable actually.
7 -> 6 -> 6.3 -> 6.5
I have it in the correct order; the most recent leg is first reading from left to right and the least recent leg, in this case the first leg is at the right end. That column gets dropped when the next leg is placed on the left side.
Leaderboard Trends After 5 Legs:
Team...........This Leg (5)...Last Leg (4)...Prior Leg (3)..Prior Leg (2)..Trend
Art-J.J. 1.6000 1.7500 2.0000 2.5000 slowly rising
Rachel-Dave 2.8000 2.5000 2.6666 1.0000 slowly falling
Brendon-Rachel 3.8000 3.5000 2.6666 3.0000 slowly falling
Nary-Jamie 5.4000 5.0000 5.0000 5.0000 slowly falling
Mark-Bopper 6.0000 6.0000 5.3333 6.0000 stable
Vanessa-Ralph 5.4000 6.0000 6.6666 6.0000 slowly rising
Joey-Danny 5.2000 6.0000 7.0000 9.0000 rapidly rising
Kerri-Stacy 6.8000 6.5000 6.3333 6.0000 slowly falling
Leaderboard Trends After 6 Legs:
Team...........This Leg (6)...Last Leg (5)...Prior Leg (4)..Prior Leg (3)..Trend
Art-J.J. 1.6666 1.6000 1.7500 2.0000 stable
Rachel-Dave 2.5000 2.8000 2.5000 2.6666 stable
Brendon-Rachel 3.8333 3.8000 3.5000 2.6666 slowly falling
Nary-Jamie 5.3333 5.4000 5.0000 5.0000 stable
Mark-Bopper 5.5000 6.0000 6.0000 5.3333 stable
Vanessa-Ralph 5.5000 5.4000 6.0000 6.6666 stable
Eliminated:
Joey-Danny 5.5000 5.2000 6.0000 7.0000 stable
What I really find interesting is that there are times when all the teams are grouped together, and even then the teams all seem to fall into the same basic order. I think the only ways there will be any real shake up is if a Road Block was a luck task or if the "better" teams got on a flight that arrived after the "not better" teams.
I hope Dave & Rachel wouldn't get first place too often anymore. I like them but it would make the race boring, like what Andy & Tommy did. I want the prizes to be distributed widely as possible. So many teams will go home happy. :<3
[size=6pt]Leaderboard Trends After 7 Legs:
Team............This Leg (7)....Last Leg (6)....Prior Leg (5)...Prior Leg (4)...Trend
Art-J.J. 1.8571 1.6666 1.6000 1.7500 slowly falling
Rachel-Dave 2.2857 2.5000 2.8000 2.5000 slowly rising
Brendon-Rachel 3.8571 3.8333 3.8000 3.5000 slowly falling
Mark-Bopper 5.0000 5.5000 6.0000 6.0000 rising
Vanessa-Ralph 5.4285 5.5000 5.4000 6.0000 stable
Nary-Jamie 5.4285 5.3333 5.4000 5.0000 stable
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Leaderboard Trends After 8 Legs:
Team...........This Leg (8)...Last Leg (7)...Prior Leg (6)..Prior Leg (5)..Trend
Art-J.J. 2.0000 1.8571 1.6666 1.6000 slowly falling
Rachel-Dave 2.2500 2.2857 2.5000 2.8000 slowly rising
Brendon-Rachel 3.8750 3.8571 3.8333 3.8000 stable
Mark-Bopper 4.5000 5.0000 5.5000 6.0000 slowly rising
Vanessa-Ralph 5.3750 5.4285 5.5000 5.4000 slowly falling
Eliminated:
Nary-Jamie 5.5000 5.4285 5.3333 5.4000 stable
[size=6pt]Leaderboard Trends After 9 Legs:
Team...........This Leg (9)...Last Leg (8)...Prior Leg (7)..Prior Leg (6)..Trend
Art-J.J. 2.1111 2.0000 1.8571 1.6666 slowly falling
Rachel-Dave 2.1111 2.2500 2.2857 2.5000 slowly rising
Brendon-Rachel 3.6666 3.8750 3.8571 3.8333 slowly rising
Mark-Bopper 4.5555 4.5000 5.0000 5.5000 stable
Vanessa-Ralph 5.2222 5.3750 5.4285 5.5000 slowly rising
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Leaderboard Trends After 4 Legs:
Team..............This Leg (4)....Last Leg (3)....Prior Leg (2)....First Leg (1).......Trend
David-Connor 1.7500 2.0000 2.5000 3.0000 slowly rising
Bates-Anthony 3.2500 2.0000 1.5000 2.0000 falling
Pam-Winnie 4.7500 5.6666 6.5000 4.0000 rising
Joey-Meghan 5.0000 5.0000 5.0000 6.0000 stable
Mona-Beth 6.0000 6.0000 5.5000 5.0000 stable
Caroline-Jennifer 6.7500 7.6666 8.5000 10.0000 rising
Max-Katie 7.0000 8.3333 8.5000 9.0000 rising
Chuck-Wynona 7.2500 7.0000 6.0000 7.0000 falling
Leaderboard Trends After 5 Legs:
Team....................This Leg (5)....Last Leg (4)....Prior Leg (3)...Prior Leg (2)...Trend
Bates-Anthony 3.4000 3.2500 2.0000 1.5000 falling slowly
Pam-Winnie 4.0000 4.7500 5.6666 6.5000 rising slowly
Joey-Meghan 5.2000 5.0000 5.0000 5.0000 stable
Mona-Beth 5.4000 6.0000 6.0000 5.5000 rising slowly
Max-Katie 6.0000 7.0000 8.3333 8.5000 rising
Caroline-Jennifer 6.4000 6.7500 7.6666 8.5000 rising slowly
Chuck-Wynona 7.2000 7.2500 7.0000 6.0000 stable
Team....................This Leg (6)....Last Leg (5)....Prior Leg (4)...Prior Leg (3)...Trend
Bates-Anthony 3.0000 3.4000 3.2500 2.0000 stable
Pam-Winnie 3.6666 4.0000 4.7500 5.6666 rising slowly
Joey-Meghan 5.0000 5.2000 5.0000 5.0000 stable
Mona-Beth 5.5000 5.4000 6.0000 6.0000 stable
Max-Katie 6.1666 6.0000 7.0000 8.3333 rising slowly
Caroline-Jennifer 6.1666 6.4000 6.7500 7.6666 rising slowly
Chuck-Wynona 6.5000 7.2000 7.2500 7.0000 rising slowly
As mentioned by me somewhere else, this might be the worst average by a Final 7 (average of all the average of all teams) ever in any season of TAR.
Team..............This Leg (7)...Last Leg (6)...Prior Leg (5)..Prior Leg (4)..Trend
Bates-Anthony 2.7142 3.0000 3.4000 3.2500 rising slowly
Joey-Meghan 5.0000 5.0000 5.2000 5.0000 stable
Mona-Beth 5.0000 5.5000 5.4000 6.0000 rising slowly
Caroline-Jennifer 5.7142 6.1666 6.4000 6.7500 rising slowly
Max-Katie 6.1428 6.1666 6.0000 7.0000 rising slowly
Chuck-Wynona 6.1428 6.5000 7.2000 7.2500 rising slowly
Pam-Winnie (eliminated) 4.1428 3.6666 4.0000 4.7500
Thanks for keeping such good track of this!
It is always interesting to see when an eliminated team ends up with a much better average than teams that make it all the way to the end. Especially when that team was eliminated early.
Poor performance in the beginning of the Race invariably seems to put a permanent damper on a team's end-of-Race average.
Team..........................This Leg (8)...Last Leg (7)...Prior Leg (6)..Prior Leg (5)..Trend
Bates-Anthony 2.5000 2.7142 3.0000 3.4000 rising slowly
Mona-Beth 4.6250 5.0000 5.5000 5.4000 rising slowly
Joey-Meghan 5.0000 5.0000 5.0000 5.2000 stable
Caroline-Jennifer 5.5000 5.7142 6.1666 6.4000 rising slowly
Max-Katie 5.7500 6.1428 6.1666 6.0000 rising slowly
Chuck-Wynona(eliminated) 6.1250 6.1428 6.5000 7.2000
Shouldn't Chuck & Wynona be 'rising slowly'Their average placement in these last few legs is as close to the same as possible. so "stable" would have been correct had they not been eliminated. I took that out since it shouldn't matter as they're now an eliminated team.
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Team..............This Leg (10)..Last Leg (9)...Prior Leg (8)..Prior Leg (7)..Trend
Bates-Anthony 2.6000 2.6666 2.5000 2.7142 stable
Mona-Beth 4.6000 4.6666 4.6250 5.0000 rising slowly
Max-Katie 4.8000 5.2222 5.7500 6.1428 rising slowly
Caroline-Jennifer 5.0000 5.2222 5.5000 5.7142 rising slowly
Joey-Meghan 4.7000 4.6666 5.0000 5.0000 eliminated
It's a little shocking that even after Maxie won 2 legs, their average is still barely just a little better than the singers and still worst than the moms. :O
Looks like you really cannot screw up more than 3 legs, otherwise those big numbers are there to stay.
And isn't it ironic that the singers and Maxie were the last 3 teams to the pit-stop on the very first leg? :lol3:
Leaderboard Trends After 3 Legs:
Team................This Leg (3)...Prior Leg (2)....First Leg (1).......Trend
Tim -- Marie 5.6666 4.5000 1.0000 Falling
Nicole -- Travis 2.3333 3.0000 2.0000 Stable
Nicky -- Kim 5.6666 7.0000 5.0000 Unclear
Ally -- Ashley 6.6666 6.5000 6.0000 Stable
Leo -- Jamal 5.0000 4.5000 7.0000 Unclear
Jason -- Amy 5.0000 6.5000 8.0000 Rising
Tim -- Danny 6.3333 7.5000 9.0000 Rising
Brandon -- Adam 6.0000 6.5000 10.0000 Rising
Team..............This Leg (3)...Prior Leg (2)..First Leg (1).......Trend
Tim -- Marie 5.6666 4.5000 1.0000 Falling
Nicole -- Travis 2.3333 3.0000 2.0000 Stable
Nicky -- Kim 5.6666 7.0000 5.0000 Unclear
Ally -- Ashley 6.6666 6.5000 6.0000 Stable
Leo -- Jamal 5.0000 4.5000 7.0000 Uncleat
Jason -- Amy 5.0000 6.5000 8.0000 Rising
Tim -- Danny 6.3333 7.5000 9.0000 Rising
Brandon -- Adam 6.0000 6.5000 10.0000 Rising
Team..............This Leg (4)...Last Leg (3)...Prior Leg (2)..First Leg (1).......Trend
Tim -- Marie 5.5000 5.6666 4.5000 1.0000 falling
Nicole -- Travis 2.5000 2.3333 3.0000 2.0000 slowly falling
Nicky -- Kim 6.2500 5.6666 7.0000 5.0000 slowly falling
Ally -- Ashley 6.7500 6.6666 6.5000 6.0000 slowly falling
Leo -- Jamal 4.7500 5.0000 4.5000 7.0000 rising
Jason -- Amy 4.2500 5.0000 6.5000 8.0000 rising
Tim -- Danny 6.2500 6.3333 7.5000 9.0000 rising
Brandon -- Adam 4.7500 6.0000 6.5000 10.0000 rising
Team..............This Leg (5)...Last Leg (4)...Prior Leg (3)..Prior Leg (2).......Trend
Tim -- Marie 4.6000 5.5000 5.6666 4.5000 stable
Nicole -- Travis 2.6000 2.5000 2.3333 3.0000 stable
Nicky -- Kim 5.8000 6.2500 5.6666 7.0000 slowly rising
Ally -- Ashley 6.8000 6.7500 6.6666 6.5000 stable
Leo -- Jamal 5.0000 4.7500 5.0000 4.5000 stable
Jason -- Amy 3.8000 4.2500 5.0000 6.5000 rising
Tim -- Danny 6.0000 6.2500 6.3333 7.5000 slowly rising
Brandon -- Adam 5.4000 4.7500 6.0000 6.5000 unclear
Team...................This Leg (6)...Last Leg (5)...Prior Leg (4)..Prior Leg (3)..Trend
Tim -- Marie 4.5000 4.6000 5.5000 5.6666 slowly rising
Nicole -- Travis 2.3333 2.6000 2.5000 2.3333 stable
Nicky -- Kim 5.1666 5.8000 6.2500 5.6666 slowly rising
Ally -- Ashley 6.6666 6.8000 6.7500 6.6666 stable
Leo -- Jamal 4.6666 5.0000 4.7500 5.0000 stable
Jason -- Amy 4.0000 3.8000 4.2500 5.0000 stable
Tim -- Danny 6.1666 6.0000 6.2500 6.3333 stable
Team...................This Leg (7)...Last Leg (6)...Prior Leg (5)..Prior Leg (4)..Trend
Tim -- Marie 4.4285 4.5000 4.6000 5.5000 slowly rising
Nicole -- Travis 2.4285 2.3333 2.6000 2.5000 stable
Nicky -- Kim 5.2857 5.1666 5.8000 6.2500 stable
Ally -- Ashley 6.4285 6.6666 6.8000 6.7500 stable
Leo -- Jamal 4.1428 4.6666 5.0000 4.7500 slowly rising
Jason -- Amy 3.7142 4.0000 3.8000 4.2500 stable
Team..................This Leg (8)...Last Leg (7)...Prior Leg (6)..Prior Leg (5)..Trend
Tim -- Marie 4.2500 4.4285 4.5000 4.6000 stable
Nicole -- Travis 2.2500 2.4285 2.3333 2.6000 stable
Nicky -- Kim 5.3750 5.2857 5.1666 5.8000 stable
Ally -- Ashley 6.2500 6.4285 6.6666 6.8000 slowly rising
Leo -- Jamal 4.1250 4.1428 4.6666 5.0000 stable
Jason -- Amy 3.5000 3.7142 4.0000 3.8000 slowly rising
Team...................This Leg (9)...Last Leg (8)...Prior Leg (7)..Prior Leg (6)..Trend
Tim -- Marie 4.0000 4.2500 4.4285 4.5000 slowly rising
Nicole -- Travis 2.4444 2.2500 2.4285 2.3333 stable
Ally -- Ashley 6.1111 6.2500 6.4285 6.6666 slowly rising
Leo -- Jamal 3.7777 4.1250 4.1428 4.6666 slowly rising
Jason -- Amy 3.4444 3.5000 3.7142 4.0000 slowly rising
The numbers before the team name on each row shows that team's season and that team's overall order of finish in that season. The fraction is a numerator equal to the total ordinal placements from the legs that team raced in added together, divided by the number of legs that team raced. The final number is the average placement taken out to a value of one-ten thousandth. Where more than one team has the same average, a team that completed more legs is ranked ahead of a team that completed fewer legs, and then, for teams that competed for the same number of legs, a team from an earlier season is ranked ahead of a team from a later season. Finally, where there are teams from the same season, with the same average, and lasted for the same number of legs, the team that placed closer to first place is ranked ahead of the other team.
Keep in mind that in seasons 6, 7, 9, and 10, there was an überleg (which is treated as two legs for the purposes of this list), that seasons 18 and 19 had legs with pit stops that had no intervening rest period before the next leg started; that 12 teams competed in seasons 3, 4, 10, and 15, and that ten teams competed in season 8. (In season 22, David-Connor decided to withdraw after starting the fifth leg due to David’s injury in leg 2 that required immediate surgery. While they reached the pit stop before any of the teams completed the leg, they are shown as checking in last for computation purposes.)
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The lower the average, the better the team placed on average. The best possible average for a team that reaches the final three (for an 12-leg race with 11 teams) and therefore, completes the Race would be:
(1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1) 12/12= 1.0000.
The worse possible average for a team that reaches the final three (for an 12-leg race with 11 teams) would be:
(11+11+10+10+9+8+7+6+5+4+3+3) 87/12=7.2500.
Team..................This Leg (10)..Last Leg (9)...Prior Leg (8)..Prior Leg (7)..Trend
Tim -- Marie 3.8000 4.0000 4.2500 4.4285 slowly rising
Nicole -- Travis 2.5000 2.4444 2.2500 2.4285 stable
Leo -- Jamal 3.8000 3.7777 4.1250 4.1428 slowly rising
Jason -- Amy 3.2000 3.4444 3.5000 3.7142 slowly rising
Team...............This Leg (11)..Last Leg (10)...Prior Leg (9)...Prior Leg (8)..Trend
Tim -- Marie 3.5454 3.8000 4.0000 4.2500 unclear
Nicole -- Travis 2.5454 2.5000 2.4444 2.2500 stable
Leo -- Jamal 3.8181 3.8000 3.7777 4.1250 stable
Jason -- Amy 3.0909 3.2000 3.4444 3.5000 slowly rising
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Dave - Connor 1 4 3 rising
Jet - Cord 2 6 1 unclear
Leo - Jamal 3 7 5 unclear
Margie - Luke 4 2 4 steady
Herb - Nate 5 5 7 slowly rising
Caroline - Jennifer 6 3 9 unclear
John - Jessica 7 8 8 slowly rising
Brendon - Rachel 8 1 2 falling
Joey - Meghan 9 9 10 eliminated
Mark - Mallory 10 6 eliminated
Natalie - Nadiya --- 11 eliminated
Team..............This Leg (4)...Last Leg (3)...Prior Leg (2)..First Leg (1).......Trend
Jet - Cord 1 2 6 1 steady
Dave - Connor 2 1 4 3 steady
Leo - Jamal 3 3 7 5 slowly rising
Caroline - Jennifer 4 6 3 9 unclear
John - Jessica 5 7 8 8 rising
Herb - Nate 6 5 5 7 slowly falling
Margie - Luke 7 4 2 4 falling
Brendon - Rachel 8 8 1 2 falling
Joey - Meghan --- 9 9 10 eliminated
Mark - Mallory --- 10 6 eliminated
Natalie - Nadiya --- 11 eliminated
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Team..............This Leg (5)...Last Leg (4)...Prior Leg (3)..Prior Leg (2).......Trend
Jet - Cord 3 1 2 6 steady
Dave - Connor 1 2 1 4 steady
Leo - Jamal 4 3 3 7 steady
Caroline - Jennifer 2 4 6 3 rising
John - Jessica 5 5 7 8 slowly rising
Herb - Nate 6 6 5 5 steady
Brendon - Rachel 7 8 8 1 slowly rising
Margie - Luke 8 7 4 2 eliminated
Joey - Meghan --- 9 9 10 eliminated
Mark - Mallory --- 10 6 eliminated
Natalie - Nadiya --- 11 eliminated
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Team...................This Leg (6)...Last Leg (5)...Prior Leg (4)..Prior Leg (3)..Trend
Leo - Jamal 1 4 3 3 slowly rising
Jet - Cord 2 3 1 2 steady
John - Jessica 3 5 5 7 rising
Dave - Connor 4 1 2 1 unclear
Brendon - Rachel 5 7 8 8 rising
Herb - Nate 6 6 6 5 steady
Caroline - Jennifer 7 2 4 6 unclear
Margie - Luke --- eliminated
Joey - Meghan eliminated
Mark - Mallory eliminated
Natalie - Nadiya eliminated
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Team...................This Leg (7)...Last Leg (6)...Prior Leg (5)..Prior Leg (4).. Trend
Brendon - Rachel 1 5 7 8 rising
Caroline - Jennifer 2 7 2 4 unclear
Dave - Connor 3 4 1 2 steady
Jet - Cord 4 2 3 1 steady
Leo - Jamal 5 1 4 3 unclear
Herb - Nate 6 6 6 6 steady
John - Jessica --- eliminated
Margie - Luke eliminated
Joey - Meghan eliminated
Mark - Mallory eliminated
Natalie - Nadiya eliminated
[/size]Team..................This Leg (8)...Last Leg (7)...Prior Leg (6)..Prior Leg (5)........Trend
Brendon - Rachel 1 1 5 7 rising
Caroline - Jennifer 5 2 7 2 unclear
Dave - Connor 4 3 4 1 steady
Jet - Cord 2 4 2 3 steady
Leo - Jamal 3 5 1 4 unclear
Herb - Nate --- eliminated
John - Jessica eliminated
Margie - Luke eliminated
Joey - Meghan eliminated
Mark - Mallory eliminated
Natalie - Nadiya eliminated
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The most steady team in a while goes home in 6th place, which is where they placed for the last 5 legs. And some teams keep bouncing up down and all around. Let's see what happens next week.
Team..................This Leg (9)...This Leg (8)...Last Leg (7)...Prior Leg (6)........Trend
Dave - Connor 1 4 3 4 slowly falling
Jet - Cord 2 2 4 2 steady
Leo - Jamal 3 3 5 1 unclear
Brendon - Rachel 4 1 1 5 unclear
Caroline - Jennifer 5 5 2 7 slowly falling
Herb - Nate --- eliminated
John - Jessica eliminated
Margie - Luke eliminated
Joey - Meghan eliminated
Mark - Mallory eliminated
Natalie - Nadiya eliminated
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Team..................This Leg (10)..Last Leg (9)...Prior Leg (8)..Prior Leg (7)..Trend
Dave - Connor 1 1 4 3 steady
Leo - Jamal 3 3 3 5 steady
Brendon - Rachel 2 4 1 1 unclear
Caroline - Jennifer 4 5 5 2 unclear
Jet - Cord --- eliminated
Herb - Nate eliminated
John - Jessica eliminated
Margie - Luke eliminated
Joey - Meghan eliminated
Mark - Mallory eliminated
Natalie - Nadiya eliminated
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Team...............This Leg (11)..Last Leg (10)...Prior Leg (9)...Prior Leg (8)..Trend
Dave - Connor 1 1 1 4 steady
Brendon - Rachel 3 2 4 1 unclear
Caroline - Jennifer 2 4 5 5 rising
Leo - Jamal --- eliminated
Jet - Cord eliminated
Herb - Nate eliminated
John - Jessica eliminated
Margie - Luke eliminated
Joey - Meghan eliminated
Mark - Mallory eliminated
Natalie - Nadiya eliminated
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Tanner & Josh 1 2 1 4/3 1.3333
Justin & Diana 9 1 2 12/3 4.0000
Denise & James Earl 4 3 6 13/3 4.3333
Logan & Chris 5 4 5 14/3 4.6666
Jazmine & Danielle 2 8 4 14/3 4.6666
Cindy & Rick 3 5 7 15/3 5.0000
Kelsey & Joey 8 7 3 18/3 6.0000
Tiffany & Krista 10 6 8 24/3 8.0000
27-09 Ernest & Jin 7 9 9 25/3 8.3333
27-10 Alex & Adam 6 10 15/2 8.0000
27-11 Kelly & Shevonne 11 11/1 11.0000
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Tanner & Josh 1 2 1 2 3 9/5 1.8000
Justin & Diana 9 1 2 1 2 15/5 3.0000
Denise & James Earl 4 3 6 3 1 17/5 3.4000
Logan & Chris 5 4 5 6 6 26/5 5.2000
Kelsey & Joey 8 7 3 4 4 26/5 5.2000
Cindy & Rick 3 5 7 5 7 27/5 5.4000
Tiffany & Krista 10 6 8 8 5 37/5 7.4000
27-08 Jazmine & Danielle 2 8 4 7 8 29/5 5.8000
27-09 Ernest & Jin 7 9 9 25/3 8.3333
27-10 Alex & Adam 6 10 15/2 8.0000
27-11 Kelly & Shevonne 11 11/1 11.0000
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Justin & Diana 9 1 2 1 2 1 16/6 2.6666
Tiffany & Krista 10 6 8 8 5 2 39/6 6.5000
Kelsey & Joey 8 7 3 4 4 3 29/6 4.8333
Tanner & Josh 1 2 1 2 3 4 13/6 2.1666
Cindy & Rick 3 5 7 5 7 5 32/6 5.3333
Logan & Chris 5 4 5 6 6 6 32/6 5.3333
Denise & James Earl 4 3 6 3 1 7 24/6 4.0000
27-08 Jazmine & Danielle 2 8 4 7 8 29/5 5.8000
27-09 Ernest & Jin 7 9 9 25/3 8.3333
27-10 Alex & Adam 6 10 15/2 8.0000
27-11 Kelly & Shevonne 11 11/1 11.0000
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Justin & Diana 9 1 2 1 2 1 1 17/7 2.4285
Tiffany & Krista 10 6 8 8 5 2 3 42/7 6.0000
Kelsey & Joey 8 7 3 4 4 3 2 31/7 4.4285
Tanner & Josh 1 2 1 2 3 4 4 17/7 2.4285
Logan & Chris 5 4 5 6 6 6 5 37/7 5.2857
Denise & James Earl 4 3 6 3 1 7 6 30/7 4.2857
27-07 Cindy & Rick 3 5 7 5 7 5 7 39/7 5.5714
27-08 Jazmine & Danielle 2 8 4 7 8 29/5 5.8000
27-09 Ernest & Jin 7 9 9 25/3 8.3333
27-10 Alex & Adam 6 10 15/2 8.0000
27-11 Kelly & Shevonne 11 11/1 11.0000
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Justin & Diana 9 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 18/8 2.2500
Kelsey & Joey 8 7 3 4 4 3 2 2 33/8 4.1250
Denise & James Earl 4 3 6 3 1 7 6 3 33/8 4.1250
Logan & Chris 5 4 5 6 6 6 5 4 41/8 5.1250
Tiffany & Krista 10 6 8 8 5 2 3 5 47/8 5.8750
Tanner & Josh 1 2 1 2 3 4 4 6 23/8 2.8750
27-07 Cindy & Rick 3 5 7 5 7 5 7 39/7 5.5714
27-08 Jazmine & Danielle 2 8 4 7 8 29/5 5.8000
27-09 Ernest & Jin 7 9 9 25/3 8.3333
27-10 Alex & Adam 6 10 15/2 8.0000
27-11 Kelly & Shevonne 11 11/1 11.0000
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Justin & Diana 9 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 19/9 2.1111
Kelsey & Joey 8 7 3 4 4 3 2 2 2 35/9 3.8888
Denise & James Earl 4 3 6 3 1 7 6 3 5 38/9 4.2222
Logan & Chris 5 4 5 6 6 6 5 4 3 44/9 4.8888
Tiffany & Krista 10 6 8 8 5 2 3 5 4 51/9 5.6666
27-06 Tanner & Josh 1 2 1 2 3 4 4 6 6 29/9 3.1111
27-07 Cindy & Rick 3 5 7 5 7 5 7 39/7 5.5714
27-08 Jazmine & Danielle 2 8 4 7 8 29/5 5.8000
27-09 Ernest & Jin 7 9 9 25/3 8.3333
27-10 Alex & Adam 6 10 15/2 8.0000
27-11 Kelly & Shevonne 11 11/1 11.0000
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Justin & Diana 9 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 20/10 2.1000
Kelsey & Joey 8 7 3 4 4 3 2 2 2 2 37/10 3.7000
Logan & Chris 5 4 5 6 6 6 5 4 3 4 48/10 4.8000
Tiffany & Krista 10 6 8 8 5 2 3 5 4 3 54/10 5.4000
27-05 Denise & James Earl 4 3 6 3 1 7 6 3 5 5 43/10 4.3000
27-06 Tanner & Josh 1 2 1 2 3 4 4 6 6 29/9 3.1111
27-07 Cindy & Rick 3 5 7 5 7 5 7 39/7 5.5714
27-08 Jazmine & Danielle 2 8 4 7 8 29/5 5.8000
27-09 Ernest & Jin 7 9 9 25/3 8.3333
27-10 Alex & Adam 6 10 15/2 8.0000
27-11 Kelly & Shevonne 11 11/1 11.0000
Leaderboard after Leg 11:
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1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
Justin & Diana 9 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 3 23/11 2.0909
Kelsey & Joey 8 7 3 4 4 3 2 2 2 2 2 39/11 3.5454
Logan & Chris 5 4 5 6 6 6 5 4 3 4 1 49/11 4.4545
27-04 Tiffany & Krista 10 6 8 8 5 2 3 5 4 3 4 58/11 5.2727
27-05 Denise & James Earl 4 3 6 3 1 7 6 3 5 5 43/10 4.3000
27-06 Tanner & Josh 1 2 1 2 3 4 4 6 6 29/9 3.1111
27-07 Cindy & Rick 3 5 7 5 7 5 7 39/7 5.5714
27-08 Jazmine & Danielle 2 8 4 7 8 29/5 5.8000
27-09 Ernest & Jin 7 9 9 25/3 8.3333
27-10 Alex & Adam 6 10 15/2 8.0000
27-11 Kelly & Shevonne 11 11/1 11.0000
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
27-01 Kelsey & Joey 8 7 3 4 4 3 2 2 2 2 2 1 40/12 3.3333
27-02 Justin & Diana 9 1 2 1 2 1 1 1 1 1 3 2 25/12 2.0833
27-03 Logan & Chris 5 4 5 6 6 6 5 4 3 4 1 3 52/12 4.3333
27-04 Tiffany & Krista 10 6 8 8 5 2 3 5 4 3 4 58/11 5.2727
27-05 Denise & James Earl 4 3 6 3 1 7 6 3 5 5 43/10 4.3000
27-06 Tanner & Josh 1 2 1 2 3 4 4 6 6 29/9 3.1111
27-07 Cindy & Rick 3 5 7 5 7 5 7 39/7 5.5714
27-08 Jazmine & Danielle 2 8 4 7 8 29/5 5.8000
27-09 Ernest & Jin 7 9 9 25/3 8.3333
27-10 Alex & Adam 6 10 15/2 8.0000
27-11 Kelly & Shevonne 11 11/1 11.0000
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Fraction Placement Average
Dana-Matt 1 1/1 1.000
Tyler-Korey 2 2/1 2.000
Zach-Rachel 3 3/1 3.000
Cameron-Darius 4 4/1 4.000
Kurt-Brodie 5 5/1 5.000
Burnie-Ashley 6 6/1 6.000
Jessica-Brittany 7 7/1 7.000
Marty-Hagan 8 8/1 8.000
Sheri-Cole 9 9/1 9.000
Erin-Joslyn 10 10/1 10.000
Scott-Blair 11 11/1 11.000
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Fraction Placement Average
Tyler-Korey 2 1 3/2 1.5000
Kurt-Brodie 5 2 7/2 3.5000
Burnie-Ashley 6 3 9/2 4.5000
Dana-Matt 1 4 5/2 2.5000
Erin-Joslyn 10 5 15/2 7.5000
Zach-Rachel 3 6 9/2 4.5000
Jessica-Brittany 7 7 14/2 7.0000
Sheri-Cole 9 8 17/2 8.5000
Scott-Blair 11 9 20/2 10.0000
Cameron-Darius 4 10 14/2 7.0000
28-11 Marty-Hagan 8 11 19/2 9.5000
Placement Averages (in order by most recent leg)
Leg 1 Leg 2 Leg 3 Leg 4 Trend Final Placement
Line Average
Tyler-Korey 2.0000 1.5000 1.6666 1.7500 steady
Kurt-Brodie 5.0000 3.5000 2.6666 2.0000 rising
Dana-Matt 1.0000 2.5000 3.0000 3.0000 falling slowly
Burnie-Ashley 6.0000 4.5000 4.0000 4.0000 steady
Zach-Rachel 3.0000 4.5000 6.0000 5.7500 falling slowly
Erin-Joslyn 10.0000 7.5000 7.3333 7.0000 rising slowly
Sheri-Cole 9.0000 8.5000 7.6666 7.5000 rising slowly
Scott-Blair 11.0000 10.0000 9.3333 9.0000 rising slowly
28-09 Jessica-Brittany 7.0000 7.0000 6.3333 7.0000 7.0000
28-10 Cameron-Darius 4.0000 7.0000 8.0000 8.0000
28-11 Marty-Hagan 8.0000 9.5000 9.5000
I don't know if this has been mentioned but do Marc & Rovilsen of Tar Asia 2 have the lowest average at 1.46153846 on all 13 legs they only came in 1st and 2nd except ironically the last leg which they placed 3rd!If TAR Asia 2 were counted as 13 legs, we would have Marc & Rovilson won 8 legs, Adrian & Collin won 3 legs and Ann & Diane, Pamela & Vanessa won a leg each, and this season is also marked with no Co-ed teams finished 1st and 2nd in any leg
I don't know if this has been mentioned but do Marc & Rovilsen of Tar Asia 2 have the lowest average at 1.46153846 on all 13 legs they only came in 1st and 2nd except ironically the last leg which they placed 3rd!If TAR Asia 2 were counted as 13 legs, we would have Marc & Rovilson won 8 legs, Adrian & Collin won 3 legs and Ann & Diane, Pamela & Vanessa won a leg each, and this season is also marked with no Co-ed teams finished 1st and 2nd in any leg
http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=The_Amazing_Race_Asia_2
Placement Averages (in order by most recent three legs)
Leg 3 Leg 4 Leg 5 Trend Final Placement
Line Average
Tyler-Korey 1.6666 1.7500 1.6000 steady
Kurt-Brodie 2.6666 2.0000 2.0000 steady
Dana-Matt 3.0000 3.0000 3.0000 steady
Burnie-Ashley 4.0000 4.0000 4.4000 falling slowly
Zach-Rachel 6.0000 5.7500 5.6000 rising slowly
Sheri-Cole 7.6666 7.5000 7.4000 rising slowly
Scott-Blair 9.3333 9.0000 8.0000 rising
28-08 Erin-Joslyn 7.2000
28-09 Jessica-Brittany 7.0000
28-10 Cameron-Darius 8.0000
28-11 Marty-Hagan 9.5000
The original thread is the other thread. :groan:This one? >> http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,26663.0.html
Placement Averages (in order by most recent three legs)
Leg 4 Leg 5 Leg 6 Trend Final Placement
Line Average
Kurt-Brodie 2.0000 2.2000 2.0000 steady
Tyler-Korey 1.7500 1.6000 2.3333 falling slowly
Dana-Matt 3.0000 3.0000 3.1666 falling slowly
Burnie-Ashley 4.0000 4.4000 4.0000 rising slowly
Zach-Rachel 5.7500 5.6000 5.1666 rising slowly
Sheri-Cole 7.5000 7.4000 7.3333 rising slowly
Scott-Blair 9.0000 8.0000 7.5000 rising slowly
28-08 Erin-Joslyn 7.2000
28-09 Jessica-Brittany 7.0000
28-10 Cameron-Darius 8.0000
28-11 Marty-Hagan 9.5000
Placement Averages (in order by most recent three legs)
Leg 5 Leg 6 Leg 7 Trend Final Placement
Line Average
Kurt-Brodie 2.2000 2.0000 2.1428 steady
Tyler-Korey 1.6000 2.3333 2.8571 falling slowly
Dana-Matt 3.0000 3.1666 3.2857 falling slowly
Burnie-Ashley 4.4000 4.0000 3.7142 rising slowly
Zach-Rachel 5.6000 5.1666 4.5714 rising slowly
Sheri-Cole 7.4000 7.3333 7.0000 rising slowly
28-07 Scott-Blair 7.4285
28-08 Erin-Joslyn 7.2000
28-09 Jessica-Brittany 7.0000
28-10 Cameron-Darius 8.0000
28-11 Marty-Hagan 9.5000
Placement Averages (in order by most recent three legs)
Leg 6 Leg 7 Leg 8 Trend Final Placement
Line Average
Kurt-Brodie 2.0000 2.1428 2.0000 steady
Tyler-Korey 2.3333 2.8571 2.8750 falling slowly
Dana-Matt 3.1666 3.2857 3.5000 falling slowly
Burnie-Ashley 4.0000 3.7142 3.5000 rising slowly
Zach-Rachel 5.1666 4.5714 4.5000 rising slowly
Sheri-Cole 7.3333 7.0000 6.8750 rising slowly
28-07 Scott-Blair 7.4285
28-08 Erin-Joslyn 7.2000
28-09 Jessica-Brittany 7.0000
28-10 Cameron-Darius 8.0000
28-11 Marty-Hagan 9.5000
Placement Averages (in order by most recent three legs)
Leg 7 Leg 8 Leg 9 Trend Final Placement
Line Average
Kurt-Brodie 2.1428 2.0000 2.3333 steady
Tyler-Korey 2.8571 2.8750 2.6666 steady
Burnie-Ashley 3.7142 3.5000 3.3333 rising slowly
Dana-Matt 3.2857 3.5000 3.5555 falling slowly
Sheri-Cole 7.0000 6.8750 6.4444 rising slowly
28-06 Zach-Rachel 4.6666
28-07 Scott-Blair 7.4285
28-08 Erin-Joslyn 7.2000
28-09 Jessica-Brittany 7.0000
28-10 Cameron-Darius 8.0000
28-11 Marty-Hagan 9.5000
Best Worse Worse
Current [leg 9] Possible Finish Possible Finish Possible Finish
(Final 3) (Final 3)(4th on leg 11)(Final 3)(4th on leg 12)
[1st- 1st -1st] [4th -3rd - 3rd ] [4th - 4th - 3rd ]
Kurt-Brodie 21/9 2.3333 24/12 2.0000 31/12 2.5833 32/12 2.6666
Tyler-Korey 24/9 2.6666 27/12 2.2500 34/12 2.8333 35/12 2.9166
Burnie-Ashley 30/9 3.3333 33/12 2.7500 40/12 3.3333 41/12 3.4166
Dana-Matt 32/9 3.5555 35/12 2.9166 42/12 3.5000 43/12 3.5833
Sheri-Cole 58/9 6.4444 61/12 5.0833 68/12 5.6666 69/12 5.7500
Placement Averages (in order by most recent three legs)
Leg 8 Leg 9 Leg 10 Trend Final Placement
Line Average
Tyler-Korey 2.8750 2.6666 2.5000 rising slowly
Burnie-Ashley 3.5000 3.3333 3.2000 rising slowly
Dana-Matt 3.5000 3.5555 3.5000 steady
Sheri-Cole 6.8750 6.4444 6.2000 rising slowly
28-05 Kurt-Brodie 2.6000
28-06 Zach-Rachel 4.6666
28-07 Scott-Blair 7.4285
28-08 Erin-Joslyn 7.2000
28-09 Jessica-Brittany 7.0000
28-10 Cameron-Darius 8.0000
28-11 Marty-Hagan 9.5000
Placement Averages (in order by most recent three legs)
Leg 9 Leg 10 Leg 11 Trend Final Placement
Line Average
Tyler-Korey 2.6666 2.5000 2.3636 rising slowly
Dana-Matt 3.5555 3.5000 3.3636 rising slowly
Sheri-Cole 6.4444 6.2000 5.9090 rising slowly
28-04 Burnie-Ashley 3.2727
28-05 Kurt-Brodie 2.6000
28-06 Zach-Rachel 4.6666
28-07 Scott-Blair 7.4285
28-08 Erin-Joslyn 7.2000
28-09 Jessica-Brittany 7.0000
28-10 Cameron-Darius 8.0000
28-11 Marty-Hagan 9.5000
Final Placement Average
28-01 Dana-Matt 38/12 3.1666
28-02 Sheri-Cole 67/12 5.5833
28-03 Tyler-Korey 29/12 2.4166
28-04 Burnie-Ashley 36/11 3.2727
25-05 Kurt-Brodie 26/10 2.6000
28-06 Zach-Rachel 42/9 4.6666
26-07 Scott-Blair 52/7 7.4285
28-08 Erin-Joslyn 36/5 7.2000
28-09 Jessica-Brittany 28/4 7.0000
28-10 Cameron-Darius 24/3 8.0000
28-11 Marty-Hagan 19/2 9.5000
These will be used in the O.P. of the other thread with the master list of team placements from TAR 1 to 28; that takes a little time because the every ten team spacing has to be manually reset every season to incorporate new teams, and because of the conventions I use for team placements with the same averages.
1 2 3
Hung & Chee 1 1 2 4/3 1.3333 Hung 1, Chee 1
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 10/3 3.3333 Riley 1, Maddison 1
Will & James 4 6 1 11/3 3.6666 Will 2, James 0
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 14/3 4.6666 Michelle 1, Victoria 1
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 17/3 5.6666 Eswar 1, Aparna 1
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 17/3 5.6666 DeAngelo 1, Gary 1
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 19/3 6.3333 Kaylynn 1, Haley1
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 21/3 6.5000 Leo 1, Alana 1
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1 11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1
1 2 3 4
Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 10/4 1.5000 Hung 1, Chee 2
Will & James 4 6 1 1 12/4 3.0000 Will 2, James 1
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 14/4 3.5000 Riley 1, Maddison 2
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 16/4 4.0000 Michelle 2, Victoria 1
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 22/4 5.5000 Eswar 2, Aparna 1
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 24/4 6.0000 DeAngelo 2, Gary 1
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 24/4 6.0000 Leo 2, Alana 1
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 27/4 6.7500 Kaylynn 2, Haley 1
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1 11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1
1 2 3 4 5
Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 12/5 1.4000 Hung 2, Chee 3
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 15/5 3.0000 Riley 2, Maddison 3
Will & James 4 6 1 1 4 16/5 3.2000 Will 3, James 2
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 27/5 5.4000 Leo 3, Alana 2
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 28/5 5.6000 Eswar 3, Aparna 2
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 29/5 5.8000 DeAngelo 3, Gary 2
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 34/5 6.8000 Kaylynn 3, Haley 2
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1 11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1
Leg 6
1 2 3 4 5 6
Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 3 15/6 2.5000 Hung 3, Chee 3
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 2 17/6 2.8333 Riley 2, Maddison 4
Will & James 4 6 1 1 4 4 20/6 3.3333 Will 4, James 2
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 1 30/6 5.0000 DeAngelo 3, Gary 3
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 5 33/6 5.3000 Eswar 3, Aparna 3
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 6 33/6 5.5000 Leo 4, Alana 2
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 7 41/6 6.8333 Kaylynn 3, Haley 3
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1 11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1
Leg 7
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 () 8 9 10 11
Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 3 3 18/7 2.5714 Hung 3, Chee 3
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 2 2 19/7 2.7142 Riley 2, Maddison 4
Will & James 4 6 1 1 4 4 1 21/7 3.0000 Will 4, James 2
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 1 4 34/7 4.8571 DeAngelo 3, Gary 3
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 5 6 39/7 5.5714 Eswar 3, Aparna 3
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 7 5 46/7 6.5714 Kaylynn 3, Haley 3
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 6 7 40/7 5.7142 Leo 4, Alana 2
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1 11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1
() refers to the midleg placement in the megaleg, shown in episodes 8 and 9
Leg 8 midpoint
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 () 8 9 10 11
Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 3 3 4 22/8 2.7500 Hung 3, Chee 4
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 2 2 1 20/8 2.5000 Riley 4, Maddison 3
Will & James 4 6 1 1 4 4 1 3 24/8 3.0000 Will 4, James 3
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 1 4 2 36/8 4.5000 DeAngelo 3, Gary 4
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 5 6 5 44/8 5.5000 Eswar 4, Aparna 3
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 7 5 6 52/8 6.5000 Kaylynn 4, Haley 3
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 6 7 40/7 5.7142 Leo 4, Alana 2
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1 11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1
() refers to the midleg placement in the megaleg, shown in episodes 8 and 9.
The midpoint of the Megaleg, leg 8, was either at the end of the first roadblock,
or the location of the immediately following route marker, the Charminari in Hyderabad.
Leg 8 Complete
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 () 8 9 10 11
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 2 2 1 1 21/9 2.3333 Riley 4, Maddison 4
Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 3 3 4 4 26/9 2.8888 Hung 4, Chee 4
lWill & James 4 6 1 1 4 4 1 3 2 26/9 2.8888 Will 4, James 4
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 1 4 2 3 39/9 4.3333 DeAngelo 4, Gary 4
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 5 6 5 5 49/9 5.4444 Eswar 4, Aparna 4
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 7 5 6 6 58/9 6.4444 Kaylynn 4, Haley 4
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 6 7 40/7 5.7142 Leo 4, Alana 2
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1 11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1
() refers to the midleg placement in the megaleg, shown in episodes 8 and 9.
The midpoint of the Megaleg, leg 8, was either at the end of the first roadblock,
or the location of the immediately following route marker, the Charminari in Hyderabad.
Leg 9
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 () 8 9 10 11
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 2 2 1 1 1 22/10 2.2999 Riley 5, Maddison 4
lWill & James 4 6 1 1 4 4 1 3 2 2 28/10 2.8000 Will 5, James 4
Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 3 3 4 4 3 29/10 2.9000 Hung 4, Chee 5
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 1 4 2 3 4 43/10 4.3000 DeAngelo 5, Gary 4
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 5 6 5 5 5 54/10 5.4000 Eswar 5, Aparna 4
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 7 5 6 6 58/9 6.4444 Kaylynn 4, Haley 4
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 6 7 40/7 5.7142 Leo 4, Alana 2
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1 11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1
() refers to the midleg placement in the megaleg, shown in episodes 8 and 9.The midpoint of the Megaleg, leg 8, was either at the end of the first roadblock, or the location of the immediately following route markerr, the Charminari in Hyderabad.
Leg 10
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 () 8 9 10 11
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 23/11 2.0909 Riley 5, Maddison 4
Will & James 4 6 1 1 4 4 1 3 2 2 2 30/11 2.7272 Will 5, James 4
Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 3 3 4 4 3 3 32/11 2.9090 Hung 4, Chee 5
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 1 4 2 3 4 4 47/11 4.2727 DeAngelo 5, Gary 4
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 5 6 5 5 5 54/10 5.4000 Eswar 5, Aparna 4
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 7 5 6 6 58/9 6.4444 Kaylynn 4, Haley 4
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 6 7 40/7 5.7142 Leo 4, Alana 2
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1 11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1
() refers to the midleg placement in the megaleg, shown in episodes 8 and 9.The midpoint of the Megaleg, leg 8, was either at the end of the first roadblock, or the location of the immediately following route markerr, the Charminari in Hyderabad.
But should the halfway point in the megaleg count?They’ve been counted in every previous season where a leg consisted of two leg segments. The way the Megaleg was structured was indistinguishable from some of those early season double legs legs, which I labeled as “uberlegs” back then. Even the lack of a midpoint mat or of Phil doesn’t change that.
wow the beard bros got 2.09 atm. top 5 TAR racers of all time?Still depends on the final leg results. But no matter what it is, the placement average for all three teams will be between 2.0000 and 2.9999, an objective Indication that all three teams were equally strong teams over the overall course of the Race and should have been the final three teams. You can also tell by the calculated averages which teams should have left sooner and which left too soon.
This is only the second time for the final 3 teams having racing average of below 3, after TAR 1! This shows the 3 teams are indeed strong teams even without the alliance thing. So why are they obsessed with the alliance thing :jam:wow the beard bros got 2.09 atm. top 5 TAR racers of all time?Still depends on the final leg results. But no matter what it is, the placement average for all three teams will be between 2.0000 and 2.9999, an objective Indication that all three teams were equally strong teams over the overall course of the Race and should have been the final three teams. You can also tell by the calculated averages which teams should have left sooner and which left too soon.
This is only the second time for the final 3 teams having racing average of below 3, after TAR 1! This shows the 3 teams are indeed strong teams even without the alliance thing. So why are they obsessed with the alliance thing :jam:wow the beard bros got 2.09 atm. top 5 TAR racers of all time?Still depends on the final leg results. But no matter what it is, the placement average for all three teams will be between 2.0000 and 2.9999, an objective indication that all three teams were equally strong teams over the overall course of the Race and should have been the final three teams. You can also tell by the calculated averages which teams should have left sooner and which left too soon.
Final
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 () 8 9 10 11
Will & James 4 6 1 1 4 4 1 3 2 2 2 1 31/12 2.5833 Will 6, James 5
Hung & Chee 1 1 2 6 2 3 3 4 4 3 3 2 34/12 2.8333 Hung 5, Chee 6
Riley & Maddison 3 3 4 4 1 2 2 1 1 1 1 3 26/12 2.1666 Riley 6, Maddison 5
DeAngelo & Gary 10 2 5 7 5 1 4 2 3 4 4 47/11 4.2727 DeAngelo 5, Gary 4
Eswar & Aparna 7 4 6 5 6 5 6 5 5 5 54/10 5.4000 Eswar 5, Aparna 4
Kaylynn & Haley 8 8 3 8 7 7 5 6 6 58/9 6.4444 Kaylynn 4, Haley 4
Leo & Alana 6 7 8 3 3 6 7 40/7 5.7142 Leo 4, Alana 2
Michelle & Victoria 2 5 7 2 8 24/5 4.8000 Michelle 3, Victoria 2
Jerry & Frank 5 9 9 23/3 7.6666 Jerry1, Frank 2
Kellie & LaVonne 9 10 19/2 9.5000 Kellie 1 LaVonne 1
Nathan & Cody 11 11/1 11.0000 Nathan 0, Cody 1
() refers to the midleg placement in the megaleg, shown in episodes 8 and 9.The midpoint of the Megaleg, leg 8, was either at the end of the first roadblock, or the location of the immediately following route markerr, the Charminari in Hyderabad.
Rob-Brennan 1 3 3 6 4 3 3 3 1 1 2 1 1 32/13 2.4615
Frank-Margarita 3 4 2 4 5 1 1 2 2 2 1 2 2 31/13 2.3846
Joe-Bill 2 2 4 1 2 2 2 4 4 4 3 3 3 36/13 2.7692
Yes, I am planning to include season 33, somehow, into the rankings. As to teams that didn’t return to complete filming, there is precedent for handling that. What isn’t clear is how many legs we end up with even though we presumably had 12 episodes.
Stay tuned.
That’s not how the withdrawal of David and Connor was treated a few seasons back. Although they were the first team to reach Phil in the episode, they skipped all tasks in order to inform Phil of their withdrawal for medical reasons. For purposes of the rankings they were treated as the last team to arrive. Based on what has been reported in the media from CBS, three legs were completed before the hiatus, so the issue will likely be addressed in leg 4.Yes, I am planning to include season 33, somehow, into the rankings. As to teams that didn’t return to complete filming, there is precedent for handling that. What isn’t clear is how many legs we end up with even though we presumably had 12 episodes.
Stay tuned.
I have no idea about the outcome of the rounds pre-covid, but a 1+1/2=1.0 rating for any teams who refuse to return would be hilarious and screw over all of us who keep track of TAR averages.
Ryan-Dusty 2 1 3/2 1.5000
Raquel-Cayla 3 4 7/2 3.5000
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 8/2 4.0000
Connie-Sam 7 2 9/2 4.5000
Kim-Penn 4 5 9/2 4.5000
Caro-Ray 5 6 11/2 5.5000
Arun-Natalia 9 3 12/2 6.0000
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 14/2 7.0000
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 17/2 8.5000
Lulu-Lala 10 10 20/2 10.0000
Michael-Moe 11 11/1 11.0000
Below is the average leg placement leaderboard after the first two legs of season 33. How things will be handled after the leg three suspension in filming will be determined as the aired product becomes known. It should be noted that leg 2 was a NEL/KOR leg, so ten teams started the next leg.Code: [Select]
Raquel-Cayla 3 4 7/2 3.5000
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 8/2 4.0000
Connie-Sam 7 2 9/2 4.5000
Kim-Penn 4 5 9/2 4.5000
Caro-Ray 5 6 11/2 5.5000
Arun-Natalia 9 3 12/2 6.0000
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 14/2 7.0000
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 17/2 8.5000
Lulu-Lala 10 10 20/2 10.0000
Michael-Moe 11 11/1 11.0000
It was a copy and paste issue that's now been fixed.Below is the average leg placement leaderboard after the first two legs of season 33. How things will be handled after the leg three suspension in filming will be determined as the aired product becomes known. It should be noted that leg 2 was a NEL/KOR leg, so ten teams started the next leg.Code: [Select]
Raquel-Cayla 3 4 7/2 3.5000
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 8/2 4.0000
Connie-Sam 7 2 9/2 4.5000
Kim-Penn 4 5 9/2 4.5000
Caro-Ray 5 6 11/2 5.5000
Arun-Natalia 9 3 12/2 6.0000
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 14/2 7.0000
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 17/2 8.5000
Lulu-Lala 10 10 20/2 10.0000
Michael-Moe 11 11/1 11.0000
You forgot Ryan and Dusty who had the best average
Ryan-Dusty 2 1 2 5/3 1.6666
Kim-Penn 4 5 1 10/3 3.3333
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 3 11/3 3.6666
Connie-Sam 7 2 4 13/3 4.3333
Raquel-Cayla 3 4 6 13/3 4.3333
Caro-Ray 5 6 5 16/3 5.3333
Arun-Natalia 9 3 10 22/3 7.3333
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 9 23/3 7.6666
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 8 25/3 8.3333
Lulu-Lala 10 10 7 27/3 9.0000
Michael-Moe 11 11/1 11.0000
Ryan-Dusty 2 1 2 1 6/4 1.5000
Kim-Penn 4 5 1 2 12/4 3.0000
Anthony-Spencer 1 7 3 11/3 3.6666
Raquel-Cayla 3 4 6 3 16/4 4.0000
Connie-Sam 7 2 4 13/3 4.3333
Caro-Ray 5 6 5 16/3 5.3333
Arun-Natalia 9 3 10 6 28/4 7.0000
Akbar-Sheri 6 8 9 5 28/4 7.0000
Lulu-Lala 10 10 7 4 31/4 7.7500
Taylor-Isaiah 8 9 8 25/3 8.3333
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