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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #100 on: February 14, 2008, 10:36:42 PM »
Tonight's episode had an unexpected outcome and ending. Donald Trump announced the mixing of the teams and assigned them to be Piers, Omarosa, Lennox and Carol vs. Tito, Marilu, Stephen and Trace. The task was to make the most money running 3 horse-drawn carriages in Central Park. Both teams immediately hit the phones to invite people they know to come and pay big bucks for charity. Piers had several, Carol a few, Tito a few and Omarosa none because she is only a pseudo-celebrity. Trace, Stephen, Marlu and Tito all had about the same heavy hitter contacts that they brought in. Piers was the Project Manager and he set the criteria of most dollars brought in to make sure Omarosa would fail if they lost.  She could see through his strategy so they got into a cat fight in the van on the way to the starting point. She resorted to calling him and his children despicable names. Lennox and Carol were put in the position of being referees. Lennox called it tougher than being a participant in the Tyson/Lewis fight. Trace Adkins was the other Project Manager and his team was well run, harmonious and productive. Tito's girlfriend the porn star Jenna Jamison showed up as did Billy Baldwin and John Rich(a good friend of Trace). When the task was over it was not clear if enough of Piers' team's final contributors had made it in time.

The beginning of the boardroom was the shootout between Omarosa and Piers. He had a consistent, strong message that she was dirt and he could not be on the same team with her due to her calling his children names. She was pathetic in her name-calling in the boardroom. All it would have taken was a task defeat and she was gone. Unfortunately, their team won by $37K to $31K. Donald Trump had the uneviable task of firing someone from a team that functioned really well, which George acknowledged as their observer. Trump even asked for a volunteer to resign. He asked who was the weak link, but nobody volunteered anyone. Trump finally decided that noone should be fired. He also decided that Omarosa and Marilu would be switching teams.

I think this was the best boardroom decision Trump ever made.
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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #101 on: February 15, 2008, 11:04:10 AM »
EPISODES AND ELIMINATIONS REMAINING

After the no-elimination episode last night, we have 8 contestants alive. We are now on course for the correct counts when reaching the Final 4 and Final 2. This means I do not expect any double firings in the remaining episodes except for the Final 4 where that is a standard policy:

after Feb. 21 7 remaining
after Feb. 28 6 remaining
after March 6 5 remaining
after March 13 4 remaining
after March 20 2 remaining
after March 27 1 Winner


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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #102 on: February 15, 2008, 01:25:00 PM »
Thanks for the schedule. Did you find it odd that Trump seemed to be saying that Piers was just as much to blame as Omarosa in last night's episode? While he is abrasive, he has been on the winning team except for one show. Plus he raised more money than the other team all the while having to deal with the witch O's tantrums and insults. I can't believe that in a normal business day he would tolerate anyone acting like that nor allow someone to talk to him in the same manner.

I feel the audience being treated as if we were watching a wrestling match with utter faith that it is all real and the winner actually wins. (To find an analogy...) I just felt outrage that I had to endure this. I do think Trump was right not to fire anyone and I really was happy that no one volunteered to leave.

I'm hoping that next week one way or another Omarosa leaves.
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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #103 on: February 16, 2008, 04:33:13 AM »

Thanks for the schedule.

I'm hoping that next week one way or another Omarosa leaves.


 :ythat: Great job apskip, Texaslady we can only hope!!

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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #104 on: February 16, 2008, 04:36:17 AM »
NEXT WEEK ON THE CELEBRITY APPRENTICE

QUALITY, VALUE, AND CHAOS TASK:

QVC The teams meet for the task delivery, and Donald Trump sends them by helicopter to the QVC Headquarters in Pennsylvania.

Each team is responsible for writing, directing, and producing an entire ten-minute sales segment live on QVC.

A few of the celebrities have sold items on the network before, but others have a significant learning curve.

Each team has a disastrous rehearsal just before going on live TV.

In the end, the team that makes the most from sales wins, and another celebrity is fired.


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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #105 on: February 16, 2008, 11:02:37 AM »
I think Piers bears a significant responsibility for causing trouble throughout all of the prior episodes of Celebrity Apprentice. He is a provocateur, but Omarosa has him bested by a factor of 3 in that category. Piers has alienated virtually every teammate he has had and three of them have left his team to get away from him(Gene Simmons, Vincent Pastore, and Stephen Baldwin). My conclusion is that Omarosa is the biggest troublemaker by far, but Piers bears major responsiblity too. I have predicted above that Donald Trump will be firing both of them before the Final 4(along with Stephen Baldwin and probably Tito Ortiz but maybe Lennox Lewis).

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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #106 on: February 18, 2008, 10:54:50 AM »
I had to laugh at Trump who thought for sure the Empressario team would win. Good ole Trace!!!  The guys should have stuck together.  The women suck!!!  Omarosa needs to go.  I can't stand her.  I would have slapped her if she would have talked to me like that.  I can't believe they couldn't have found a better suited celeb woman than her.  I mean come on!!!! 

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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #107 on: February 18, 2008, 11:12:10 AM »
I love Omarosa, but hate it that she had to bring Piers family into it.....other than that, MORE OMAROSA!!

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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #108 on: February 18, 2008, 07:05:45 PM »

Really, while I admit the drama with her is slightly entertaining to watch but I just can’t stand her personal character on all her Apprentice appearances and any other place she has appeared. I find she just shoots her mouth off without thinking and just falls short of wowing me with intelligents, more like the lack of.  She lacks any professionalism, the family thing the personal attack just sinks her.  I sure wouldn’t hire her even as a gopher in the office as Donald himself never snatched her up but brought her back for the circus effect instead. What can I say I'm just not an Omarosa fan, she’s just not for the Apprentice anyways put her on BB against Dick now that’s something that will humor me at a whole different level.

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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #109 on: February 19, 2008, 08:19:57 AM »
ca bb! I think you hit on the absolutely best place for Omarosa! A reality show contest with Dick!  :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

Why do I think she would have more than met her match?

I must say though, this has been more entertaining than I thought it would be when they came up with having a celebrity apprentice season.
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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #110 on: February 19, 2008, 12:32:15 PM »
 
:lol: We’ll she likes pouring drinks on people and attacking them personally when she can’t articulate anything logical.

It is entertaining TexasLady the goal of this season raising money for charity is a great thing but I miss the initial concept of this show to find brilliant people to compete for a chance of working for Donald Trump. Mind you it’s interesting how the original show contestants might have came from the finest schools and outstanding grades yet they are not business savvy the winner really is the cream of the crop. I know someone else posted that earlier I just can’t go back to read right now but I sooooo agree with you, that’s what I miss about this season.

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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #111 on: February 21, 2008, 09:33:46 PM »
This show was about selecting a product from about five possiblities, all completely new ones, at QVC Headquarters, then developing an on-air presentation to sell them and giving it on-air. Hydra allowed Marilu Henner to volunteer for this. Empresario caucaused and Stephen Baldwin took his second shot at Project Manager.

The decision on product was a bit weird. If both teams wanted the same product, they could continue to negotiate or flip a coin. They both wanted a unique ladder/handtruck combination and agreed to flip which Hydra won. Emprasario was forced to take its second choice, which was a carpet sweeper with the ability to pick up an amazing range of stuff. What I found weird was that Hydra had no backup; if they had lost the flip they would have lost time deciding what their second choice was.

The next big decision was who would be the on-air spokesperson. Stephen chose Trace and Marilu chose Marilu. Hydra had a short rehearsal(a wise idea), but Stephen elected to forgo it and let Trace go live without any rehearsal. Omarosa observed that Trace appeared very nervous just before on-air time. Marilu was paired with a male QVC host and Trace with a female QVC host. Marilu went first and was frenentic. She just exuded energy, but talked way too much. Ivanka and Donald both picked that up watching the live QVC channel from their NYC office. Trace was totally calm, but he made all the selling points. Someone, probably Stephen, had asked about the QVC E-Z installment plans and discovered that the sweeper could be sold for 5 payments of $11.99 each. Nobody on Hydra picked that up at all even though Carol had sold there for 5 years and Marilu claimed experience selling her books there before. Before the show, Piers had picked on Lennox for being sleepy, but Lennox did an OK job of being the "Director" of the show from the Control Room. For Empresario, Omarosa stayed out of trouble and was as helpful as she could be, knowing that her survival would ultimately depend on that.

Back to NYC and the Boardroom. Donald contrasted the differeing on-air styles and he noted that Emprasario used the E-Z Installment Plan whereas Hydra did not. When the results were presented, Emprasario had sold 743 units at $60 and brought in $43000 while Hydra had sold 703 units at a slightly lower price and brought in slightly under $40,000. Emprasario wins, Omarosa is safe once again, and Stepehen Baldwin gets $20,000 for his mother's cancer research foundation. He says she will be thrilled. He also says he stuck his neck out now to be positioned for the end game.

There is no joy on Hydra. Carol is asked whether she knew anything about E-Z Instllment Plans and she says no. Piers and Lennox both later say that accepting that answer at face value is absurd given Carol's experience with QVC. When asked to name who they would fire, Carol said Marilu, Lennox said Marilu, and Piers said Lennox. Marilu is true to her early-season alliances and guarantees Carol will not be fired by releasing her from the final Boardroom. Lennox takes a little heat, but he knows he was not the core reaons his team lost. Piers is not certain of that(Donald mentions that Piers is sweating for the first time in the season), but his performance was OK so he should be safe. Marilu knows that she made several big mistakes and someone has to walk the plank. Without Carol there to share that risk, she herself is the only possible choice.

Marilu's bad decisions in this task were:
1. to volunteer to be Project Manager when she did not have to.
2. not finding out about QVC installment sales and integrating that briefly into her presentation
3. being verbose on-air and losing some sales by talking too much
4. letting Carol Alt off the hook for the Final Boardroom



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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #112 on: February 22, 2008, 05:16:16 AM »

 :-* Apskip you rock!!!

Wow, you clearly enjoy writing.

You have to be ackowledged for such impressive and well written posts.

Thank you, it’s truly a pleasure to read.

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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #113 on: February 22, 2008, 12:32:40 PM »
I write using the Howard Cosell school: "Tell It Like It Is" with some of the same ascerbic commentary that you know Howard would have used were he the commentator for Celebrity Apprentice, but thank you for your kind words.

I want to add something that I overlooked last night, a short exhange between Omarosa and Donald Trump that I do not have verbatim but believe I have captured the essence of:

Omarosa - It should be obvious to everything that I am a favorite of The Donald and he's going to keep me around.
Trump - Don't be too sure of that.
Omarosa - no verbal reply but a very startled look captured on her face by the camera.

Perhaps she is beginning to realize that she is the most vulnerable person still alive in the competition. Her diatribe against Piers and his family was anathema to Donald because it crossed way over the line of decency. Since associating himself closely with her would cast a bad light on him, Trump is not going to do that. He is going to get rid on her the first chance he gets. She has been very fortunate to be on winning teams for 2 weeks in a row. I am waiting for the day when she is Project Manager. It has to be coming soon.


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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #114 on: February 23, 2008, 12:08:29 PM »
I love Omarosa, but hate it that she had to bring Piers family into it.....other than that, MORE OMAROSA!!

Of course you love her!  :lol3: Cause you are a provocateur!
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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #115 on: February 23, 2008, 02:32:32 PM »
I love Omarosa, but hate it that she had to bring Piers family into it.....other than that, MORE OMAROSA!!

Of course you love her!  :lol3: Cause you are a provocateur!
First, I like, not love, Omarosa just for her gutsyness & her business skills, BUT...her people skills suck.  Second, I agree with you Rob...hate that she attacked Piers' family.  That was totally uncalled for and rude, to say the least.

I don't like Piers at all and wish he would hurry up and get fired.

TL, I looked up the word "provocateur" and it's barely in the dictionary!! :lol3: It says: "agent provocateur", then the word below is 'provocation' meaning 'to site anger or resentment'.  Next, is the word is 'provocative' meaning 'tending to arouse or excite a response..." etc.
Ok, I know you all are just elated for that little vocab lesson! :lol:

 





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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #116 on: February 23, 2008, 03:19:25 PM »
I love Omarosa, but hate it that she had to bring Piers family into it.....other than that, MORE OMAROSA!!
Yay Rob!  Thanks for being a provocateur...tending to arouse/excite our responses about the love/hate Omarosa stuff!
I hated her at first and hated the idea of her being on this Apprentice.  Now I respect her for having the dang guts to even allow herself to be competing with ALL these really popular, talented, hot, bigtime celebs! 
Heck, Omarosa deserves to win, (aside from her insults to Piers' family) just for agreeing to be on this show with all Celebs!  Doesn't anyone her agree with me??  ???
(ha ha, probably not except Rob!)
She has interacted with most of them favorably and consistently, working very hard with them.

Don't get me wrong, I DO like others also...esp Trace, Carol Alt, and Lennox.  Baldwin...kinda-sorta.

Normally, I hate Celeb editions, but I love this Celeb Apprentice.  It turned out to be verrry entertaining/interesting!   :jumpy: :tup:

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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #117 on: February 23, 2008, 03:26:29 PM »
I love Omarosa, but hate it that she had to bring Piers family into it.....other than that, MORE OMAROSA!!

Of course you love her!  :lol3: Cause you are a provocateur!
TL, thanks for the new word (to me anyway!) :hugs:

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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #118 on: February 23, 2008, 08:36:12 PM »
I love Omarosa, but hate it that she had to bring Piers family into it.....other than that, MORE OMAROSA!!

Of course you love her!  :lol3: Cause you are a provocateur!
TL, I looked up the word "provocateur" and it's barely in the dictionary!! :lol3: It says: "agent provocateur", then the word below is 'provocation' meaning 'to site anger or resentment'.  Next, is the word is 'provocative' meaning 'tending to arouse or excite a response..." etc.
Ok, I know you all are just elated for that little vocab lesson! :lol:

Ho, ho, Rudy Rules, you did a smart thing by looking in the dictionary for agent provocateur. However, your mistake was is looking at the American English dictionary. You may need a FRENCH dictionary since agent provocateur is a French word.
I went to a wide variety of sources for a good definition and here is the best I found:

Traditionally, an agent provocateur (plural: agents provocateur, French for "inciting agent") is a person employed by the police or other law enforcement body to act undercover and entice or provoke another person to commit an illegal act. More generally, the term may refer to person or group who provokes another to perform a wrong or rash action, the deliberate purpose being to incite wider conflict or harm.

An agent provocateur is often a police officer that encourages suspects to carry out a crime under conditions where evidence can be obtained; or who suggests the commission of a crime to another, in hopes they will go along with the suggestion, so they may be convicted of the crime. These are sometimes called sting operations.

One common use of Agents provocateurs is to investigate consensual or "victimless" crimes; since each participant in such crimes are willing participants, it is often difficult for the authorities to discover such crimes without the use of undercover agents.

Agents provocateurs are also used against political opponents. Here, it has been documented that provocateurs deliberately carry out or seek to incite counter-productive and/or ineffective acts, in order to foster public disdain for the group and provide a pretext for aggression against the group; and to worsen the punishments its members are liable for (see Red-baiting).

Historically, Agents provocateurs activities have been one operational tactic of labor spies who may also be hired to infiltrate, monitor, disrupt, and/or subvert union activities.

Terrorists act as agents provocateurs when they seek to provoke government repression or an aggressive response, hoping thereby to reduce the credibility of the government, gain it enemies, alienate, divide, and demoralize its constituency, and increase support for themselves. In this sense, provocation may be combined with endorsement terrorism. In many cases terrorist provocation is an example of what is colloquially called "let's you and him fight".

The activities of agents provocateurs pose a number of ethical and legal issues.

Rob, aren't you sorry you started all this, you terrorist!

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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #119 on: February 23, 2008, 09:37:21 PM »
Ok apskip, thank you for the French edition.  Excellent job.  Very interesting synopsis.  :tup:

Well, at least I was close enough to Texas Lady's French word to describe Rob's comments!!
The word 'provocative' is close enough!  'tending to arouse or excite a response"! :lol: 
Rob, see what you did.  You made...uh...aroused/excited TL, apskip & me go beyond the call of duty to describe & research your comment about Omarosa! 

Oh wait. :groan:  Rob didn't iniate all this...Omarosa did!!  :lol3:

It all goes baaacck to Omarosa, the Villainess of Celeb Apprentice! :)


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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #120 on: February 23, 2008, 10:33:47 PM »
 :lol: He provoked us to post about Omarosa. You got it Rudy. See, he really IS a provocateur!

(And undoubtedly Omarosa is.)   :snicker:

Apskip, I never am too sure about Rob. When you look at that avatar.....
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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #121 on: February 23, 2008, 11:28:25 PM »
:lol: He provoked us to post about Omarosa. You got it Rudy. See, he really IS a provocateur!

(And undoubtedly Omarosa is.)   :snicker:


Apskip, I never am too sure about Rob. When you look at that avatar.....
You got it, TL!! :lol3:

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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #122 on: February 23, 2008, 11:37:08 PM »
Actually TL, your calling Rob a provocateur was very subtle!!  So all this is your fault!  :lol3:   :rotf:   ;)

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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #123 on: February 24, 2008, 02:33:49 AM »

This Week On The Celebrity Apprentice

THE MONEY SHOT TASK: DIAL ADVERTORIAL

Teams work together to create a 4-page photo essay for Dial Yogurt Bodywash, to be featured in Redbook Magazine.

One team decides on a natural theme, while the other creates a sexy ad depicting their most photogenic celebrity in bed with a model.

Just hours before the deadline, two team members abandon their project manager to go to a bar.

When showing their work to the Dial executives, one celeb stumbles through the presentation.

The executives choose a winning team, and Donald Trump must fire another celebrity.

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Re: "The Apprentice" will return
« Reply #124 on: February 24, 2008, 07:23:50 AM »
Actually TL, your calling Rob a provocateur was very subtle!!  So all this is your fault!  :lol3:   :rotf:   ;)

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