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Title: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 17, 2010, 10:24:18 PM
From two months ago:

The Amazing Race will be back! Although fans are still waiting for word of an official renewal from CBS for our favorite series, TAR 18 is apparently a definite GO!!

Plans for TAR 18 seem to be well under way. The next season of TAR will reportedly include a group of former racers from Season 12 onwards, and may already be completely casted. At least one round of "final" racer casting interviews has already occurred.

With the lack of any official TAR 18 applications, it has been widely speculated online for months that TAR 18 could be an "All-Stars" of some sort. While that term is not being used officially as of yet, it IS clear that we are going to have another chance to see some of our favorite (and perhaps not so favorite racers) in action again!

Filming is expected to begin later this fall.

Details remain the same.  :yess:

TAR 18 is a cast of former racers from Seasons 12-17*. Whether or not TPTB will choose to call this ALLStars or not is of course, in their hands. Some of the cast is certainly AS worthy, others, as in Season 11, perhaps will be debated.

There does seem to be a certain selection of teams who may have something they have wanted/needed to prove.... second chances, particular rematches, old rivalries revived?? Others may have been chosen simply because they were/are CBS favorites. One season may have incredibly  :ascared  been overlooked entirely.

But in any case, this should be a dynamite race!   :hearts:

As always, per RFF's practices, exact info on teams and possible start city will be withheld until it is believed that the teams are safely underway and it is possible to share without jeopardizing anyone's chances.  :tup:

Teams ARE sequestered, production IS on the move, so the wait should not be long!!

And... it appears there may well be a starting line task again as well...will we see the Express Pass return? Stay tuned!! :popcorn:



* except for one pesky rumor of "another" reality team that cannot be ruled out, but seems doubtful.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 20, 2010, 09:46:56 PM
LAX sighting!

2 redheads
2 asian men
2 goths

two asian men?  Is it 2 young asian guys or a Kevin and his Dad?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 20, 2010, 09:47:40 PM
No Spec, mrjrichies2005...only in contestant spoilers/speculation thread!  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 20, 2010, 09:49:05 PM
Erwin and Godwin, are both from TAR10...This race involves only teams from seasons 12-17
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: GonzaloChileno on November 20, 2010, 09:49:40 PM
Erwin and Godwin, are both from TAR10...This race involves only teams from seasons 12-17

How do you know it does?  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 20, 2010, 09:50:50 PM
Read TAR Speculation thread...Peach has information that states it involves teams from 12-17 only, and that 1 season may have been overlooked!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 20, 2010, 09:55:59 PM
If asian guys are Michael and Kevin,I remember someone said Kevin  said he will film with Harlem Globetrotters  this weekend ,mean Harlem Globetrotters  on race?

Don't know!?  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 20, 2010, 10:13:18 PM
Read TAR Speculation thread...Peach has information that states it involves teams from 12-17 only, and that 1 season may have been overlooked!

Where did peach get that information???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 20, 2010, 10:15:19 PM
Peach, is peach alright. She is head honcho here atm, so the information goes to her, she has lots to sort out! A unidentified source, best left that way!  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 20, 2010, 10:15:25 PM
Read TAR Speculation thread...Peach has information that states it involves teams from 12-17 only, and that 1 season may have been overlooked!

Where did peach get that information???
a source that must remain a secret for the good of all
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on November 20, 2010, 10:17:51 PM
Here are our speculated TAR 18 TEAMS! :hearts:


WHEEE!!

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/TAR18WiiHint.jpg)


 (pictures are thumbnails from their first seasons) click-click

Season 12:   

Kynt and Vyxsin

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/th_TAR18KyntandVyxsin.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/TAR18KyntandVyxsin.jpg)

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Season 13:

strangely, oddly, sadly omitted...

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Season 14:

Amanda and Kris

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/th_TAR18AmandaandKris.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/TAR18AmandaandKris.jpg)

Jaime and Cara

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/th_TAR18CaraandJaime.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/TAR18CaraandJaime.jpg)

Kisha and Jen

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/th_TAR18KishaandJen.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/TAR18KishaandJen.jpg)

Margie and Luke

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/th_TAR18MargieandLuke.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/TAR18MargieandLuke.jpg)

Mark and Michael (? possible alternates?)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/th_TAR18MarkandMichael.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/TAR18MarkandMichael.jpg)


Mel and Mike

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/th_TAR18MelandMike.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/TAR18MelandMike.jpg)

Steve and Linda (? possible alternates ?)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/th_TAR18LindaandSteve.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/TAR18LindaandSteve.jpg)

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Season 15:

Flight Time and Big Easy (Herb and Nate)

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/th_TAR18HerbandNateFlighttimeandBigEasy.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/TAR18HerbandNateFlighttimeandBigEasy.jpg)

Zev and Justin

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/th_TAR18ZevandJustin.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/TAR18ZevandJustin.jpg)

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Season 16:

Jet and Cord

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/th_TAR18JetandCord.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/TAR18JetandCord.jpg)

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Season 17:

Gary and Mallory

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/th_TAR18GaryandMallory.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/cast/TAR18GaryandMallory.jpg)

Michael and Kevin

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2017/th_MichaelandKevin.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2017/MichaelandKevin.jpg)
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For completeness sake, I will also say there have also been persistent rumors of a non-TAR team from another reality show being included in this race. I hope they are all just rumors... But the names that kept reoccuring were those of Hayden and either Lane or Enzo from BB, and of course, the ubiquitous Russell. :res:

Do you mean that those are the teams that you think are on the race or are those teams that have all been spotted so far?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 20, 2010, 10:22:00 PM
There is a Globetrotters event in Orlando on the 27th of this month at the ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex.  There is a 50/50 chance that Flight Time and Big Easy could be there or not.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on November 20, 2010, 10:23:04 PM
Why not just have the whole cast of season 14 come back? :res:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 20, 2010, 10:25:37 PM
There is a Globetrotters event in Orlando on the 27th of this month at the ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex.  There is a 50/50 chance that Flight Time and Big Easy could be there or not.

I second that.

The official website of the Globetrotters has a list of events this coming week in Florida.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 20, 2010, 10:26:39 PM
Coutzy, agreed! So many TAR14 teams...where's Ken and Tina, Ron and Christina, Nat and Kat...booo!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 20, 2010, 10:27:12 PM
Why not just have the whole cast of season 14 come back? :res:

disappointed w/ the disparity as well
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Zvarri on November 20, 2010, 10:27:56 PM
If this cast is real, then I would be so disappointed.

RIP, TAR.  :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mswood on November 20, 2010, 10:30:31 PM
Boy what an odd collection of racers, and extremely shocking to see such a huge number of teams that might be from season 14 (sheds tear for no Toni & Dallas).

And very surprising to see Mel & Mike as Mike just got a deal for a new film to direct about a week ago.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 20, 2010, 10:36:28 PM


And very surprising to see Mel & Mike as Mike just got a deal for a new film to direct about a week ago.
I just wonder they will choose two father-son teams.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 20, 2010, 10:38:12 PM
As I mentioned on the contestants thread about Flight Time and Big Easy.  With the Globetrotters being in Orlando on Nov27 and the race already started today, there is a little or no chance of them going on the race again.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on November 20, 2010, 10:38:47 PM
Why is everyone getting so upset if the only three teams that have been spotted are Michael and Kevin, Kynt and Vyxin(spelling?) and Jaime and Cara?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on November 20, 2010, 10:42:59 PM
As I mentioned on the contestants thread about Flight Time and Big Easy.  With the Globetrotters being in Orlando on Nov27 and the race already started today, there is a little or no chance of them going on the race again.

Not all the trotters head out for every show. I saw one (At the state netball centre, Oh the irony) and neither Flight Time nor Big Easy were present.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 20, 2010, 10:45:30 PM
As I mentioned on the contestants thread about Flight Time and Big Easy.  With the Globetrotters being in Orlando on Nov27 and the race already started today, there is a little or no chance of them going on the race again.

Not all the trotters head out for every show. I saw one (At the state netball centre, Oh the irony) and neither Flight Time nor Big Easy were present.

They might be here at this show because its after Thanksgiving and its at Walt Disney World.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: realshowfan on November 20, 2010, 10:47:04 PM
Why was one season overlooked? :'( I know in TAR11 a couple seasons were overlooked, but that was because there were 10 seasons to choose from, this time there were only 6 seasons.

Other than that, looks good to go. :tup: Though if they call it All-Stars, I'mma go WTF.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 20, 2010, 11:05:12 PM
As I mentioned on the contestants thread about Flight Time and Big Easy.  With the Globetrotters being in Orlando on Nov27 and the race already started today, there is a little or no chance of them going on the race again.

Just keep thinking that......they can field 3 different shows at one time.......and usually do. All performing in 3 different cities on the same night.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Competitor on November 20, 2010, 11:08:20 PM
As I mentioned on the contestants thread about Flight Time and Big Easy.  With the Globetrotters being in Orlando on Nov27 and the race already started today, there is a little or no chance of them going on the race again.

Just keep thinking that......they can field 3 different shows at one time.......and usually do. All performing in 3 different cities on the same night.

I agree with Dr. Rox. TAR>any Globetrotter show.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 20, 2010, 11:21:44 PM
A 21 day race will end on Dec 10 and a 22 day race will end on Dec 11.....TARcon is on Dec 12.......hmmmm... A west to east route.....I bet the finish line is around NYC somehere........that way Michael/Kevin and Gary and Mallory and Phil, BVM and Elise can be at the Finale party before TARcon......you heard it here first.....lol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 20, 2010, 11:23:01 PM
A 21 day race will end on Dec 10 and a 22 day race will end on Dec 11.....TARcon is on Dec 12.......hmmmm... A west to east route.....I bet the finish line is around NYC somehere........that way Michael/Kevin and Gary and Mallory and Phil, BVM and Elise can be at the Finale party before TARcon......you heard it here first.....lol

TWoP and RFF should then stage a coup and head down en masse to the (by then spoiled) finish line... :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Competitor on November 20, 2010, 11:25:45 PM
A 21 day race will end on Dec 10 and a 22 day race will end on Dec 11.....TARcon is on Dec 12.......hmmmm... A west to east route.....I bet the finish line is around NYC somehere........that way Michael/Kevin and Gary and Mallory and Phil, BVM and Elise can be at the Finale party before TARcon......you heard it here first.....lol

TWoP and RFF should then stage a coup and head down en masse to the (by then spoiled) finish line... :lol:

That's solid speculation, but WRP better have the finish line under lock and key to avoid it being spoiled.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mswood on November 20, 2010, 11:28:09 PM
Question thats kind of related to season 18, does anyone know if the opening footage was shot in High Def?  Or are we looking at another updated opening.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 20, 2010, 11:34:17 PM
A 21 day race will end on Dec 10 and a 22 day race will end on Dec 11.....TARcon is on Dec 12.......hmmmm... A west to east route.....I bet the finish line is around NYC somehere........that way Michael/Kevin and Gary and Mallory and Phil, BVM and Elise can be at the Finale party before TARcon......you heard it here first.....lol

TWoP and RFF should then stage a coup and head down en masse to the (by then spoiled) finish line... :lol:

That's solid speculation, but WRP better have the finish line under lock and key to avoid it being spoiled.

Even though it is the ten year anniversary......I really doubt that they will be ending at the World's Fair Globe in Flushing again......but I would suspect a whole host of TAR fans being out there....waiting.....like those Russian people at the wood stacking task....lol


Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 20, 2010, 11:35:56 PM
If there's any chance of them going to China (shanghai) please email me so that I can look for them!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 20, 2010, 11:39:14 PM
If this IS the real cast.... (im holding onto hope that it isnt, and other teams are replacing some of these teams)

I'll be rooting for:

Jaime and Cara
Margie and Luke (hope these teams still have their alliance... awww)

Zev and Justin

Jet and Cord

Gary and Mallory
Michael and Kevin


not sure about Kynt and Vyxsin...

Margie and Luke have 2 enemy teams on the cast so they better look out (well they were enemies on TAR 14)



Uhhh im disappointed:(
They might aswell just get rid of some of the other teams and have the 4 other TAR 14 teams compete..
Who didn't make it? Sucks for them.... the 1st team eliminated, the older couple (Bradand Victoria?), Tammy and Victor
, and the blonde girls?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TexasLady on November 20, 2010, 11:45:43 PM
If there's any chance of them going to China (shanghai) please email me so that I can look for them!

The best way to know if their route will go to Shanghai is to follow the race as it progresses. As soon as the RFF Detectives determine the route, they'll post it.  :tup:

Welcome to RFF SkyWriter9.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 20, 2010, 11:55:41 PM
Oh, don't worry, I'm following it. And thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 21, 2010, 12:12:01 AM
Another question: do you know if they've left LAX yet? That could help figure out which flights were taken.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 21, 2010, 12:15:06 AM
Another question: do you know if they've left LAX yet? That could help figure out which flights were taken.

The deluge started at approx. 6:30 PST, so I'd be surprised if they were still here.
I strongly suspect Australia is first stop.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 21, 2010, 12:19:12 AM
So we think departure between 7-8 PM PST?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: CrazyMonkey on November 21, 2010, 12:19:39 AM
Another question: do you know if they've left LAX yet? That could help figure out which flights were taken.

The deluge started at approx. 6:30 PST, so I'd be surprised if they were still here.
I strongly suspect Australia is first stop.

Ahh I wish I could go out today lol maybe I could have watched for them in Sydney!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 21, 2010, 12:23:31 AM
Actually, I suspect Vancouver.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 12:37:27 AM
Another question: do you know if they've left LAX yet? That could help figure out which flights were taken.

The deluge started at approx. 6:30 PST, so I'd be surprised if they were still here.
I strongly suspect Australia is first stop.

Ahh I wish I could go out today lol maybe I could have watched for them in Sydney!


They just left Los Angeles.......they have not arrived in Sydney.....if that is where they are headed.......probably either there or Auckland.  You still have time to stalk the airport in Sydney
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 21, 2010, 12:38:28 AM
Long time lurker- Tried to Register about 15 hours ago but it wouldnt let me  :duno:

Anyway, I live in New Zealand so I would be sooooo excited if TAR came here with 11 contestants! I live in the North though, so only if they were North of Auckland could I help.

Heres what I think of the teams-

Jamie and Cara  :hearts:
Kynt and Vyxsin  :hearts: :hearts: :tup: :yess:  :wohoo:
Gary and Mallory  :hearts: :hearts:
Amanda and Kris  :wohoo:
Margie and Luke  :jumpy:
Mike and Mel  :colors

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Zev and Justin  ;)
Jen and Kisha  ;)
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Jet and Cord  :'(
Michael and Kevin  :'(
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Globe Trotters   (:;)

Like 6/11
Hate 1/11
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarobbsessed24 on November 21, 2010, 12:53:10 AM
*OFF TOPIC*
since there are few f/f teams, i think that a f/f team won TAR17
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 01:01:12 AM
If Brooke and Claire OR Nat and Kat won TAR 17... Than that will make up for the disater that is about to be TAR 18:-/

LOVE both of those teams<3

Could also explain why neither of them are on TAR 18. Although Claire IS pregnant..
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 21, 2010, 01:01:30 AM
Was thinking that too to be honest.


PLEASE BE BROOK AND CLAIRE.  :hearts:

DONT SETTLE FOR SECOND BEST WITH NAT AND KAT
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 21, 2010, 01:04:31 AM
that will make up for the disater that is about to be TAR 18:-/

Can we stop condemning Season 18 before they even reach their first destination?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 21, 2010, 01:08:13 AM
that will make up for the disater that is about to be TAR 18:-/

Can we stop condemning Season 18 before they even reach their first destination?


Yeah, people didnt want TAR 17 but it turned out great :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 01:10:23 AM
oh. . well TAR 17 is one of my favorite seasons..

im just not excited for it like i was at one time

ive already explained my reasonings for why im not looking forward to it
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 01:15:42 AM
http://www.airport-la.com/airlines/Qantas-Airways.html
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 21, 2010, 01:17:25 AM
Just my speculation, what if they are connecting through Sydney to some other country in Oceania?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 21, 2010, 01:22:45 AM
I think most likely they're going to Vancouver or Sydney. There's a bunch of Qantas flights going there, and around the right time to boot.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 01:41:46 AM
Two Qantas flights tonight from LAX to Sydney......

QF 12    10:25pm-8:00 am
QF 108   11:50pm- 9:25 am

Nice spilt in arrival times to divide up the teams.

Also these flights too....

UA 839   10:15pm- 7:50am
DL 17      10:45pm-- 8:40am

The Qantas flights are codeshares with American....so when showtime comes in Feb.....I bet they all run up to the American counter to get their boarding passes.......
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redwings8831 on November 21, 2010, 01:43:01 AM
I posted this in the Live Sightings/Tweets thread but I'll put it here also.

Here are the flights on Qantas leaving tonight (within the next 40 minutes). NOTE: The first time is the scheduled time, the second is the actual time.

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The estimated arrival time of the Sydney flight above is 9:01 AM (Sunday at 2 PM in LA, 5 PM on the east coast US).

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Below are flights that left for Sydney during the 10 PM PST hour (possible that there was an earlier flight for some teams on a different airline). There are no other flights out of LA to Sydney tonight (so the one above is the last one).

(http://i51.[banned image hosting site].com/11v2sn9.png)

UA 839 is estimated to arrive at 8:33 AM (Sunday at 1:33 PM in LA, 4:33 PM on the east coast US).
QF 12 is estimated to arrive at 8:00 AM (Sunday at 1:00 PM in LA, 4:00 PM on the east coast US).
DF 17 is estimated to arrive at 9:01 AM (Sunday at 2:01 PM in LA, 5:01 PM on the east coast US).

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Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2010, 01:48:03 AM
Thanks for the flights... 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 01:57:26 AM
redwings........if you hit that "Hide Codeshare" button.....it will greatly clear up all those flights......:)

Well, Coutzy has about 13/14 hours to catch those two Qantas flights.....I wonder if he can make it...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2010, 02:27:07 AM
Prob not, he is not in Sydney...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on November 21, 2010, 02:30:01 AM
Prob not, he is not in Sydney...

If I started driving now, I'd be there in time to catch a few hours nap before teams arrive. But Monday morning carries with it work related commitments, unfortunately.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 21, 2010, 02:30:25 AM
Yes, we believe they are going to Sydney. :hearts:

Kynt and Vyxin asked in book store for Australia books.

So smart <33333 anyway, there have been ALOT of problems with qantas planes as of late so it is possible that we may have a delay or something
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 21, 2010, 02:44:21 AM
Well, you could probably send someone out there that you know, Coutzy.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 02:46:30 AM
We really need a man on the ground...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 02:58:37 AM
Prob not, he is not in Sydney...

If I started driving now, I'd be there in time to catch a few hours nap before teams arrive. But Monday morning carries with it work related commitments, unfortunately.

That's right......I forgot that you are in Melbourne...........heck!!!

All 4 flights are in the air and on the way.......

I wonder if RichinSydney....is really in Sydney.....lol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 03:02:22 AM
We really need someone there to catch photos of our racers, so we can see them in their 'All-Stars..' stead, and so we can confirm peach's team sheet...I hope one of our capable Aussies will be there for them when they touch down...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 21, 2010, 03:50:03 AM
I hope they go to the philippines but it will be very unlikely xD

However, New Zealand is a possible location.

Since they started in Australia. They probably be heading off in Asia by then
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: eragon on November 21, 2010, 04:07:08 AM
After spying some former racers on Facebook, I think the teams would be:
1. Kynt & Vyxsin
2. Jaime & Cara
3. Kevin & Michael
4. Amanda & Kris
5. Gary & Mallory
6. Steve & Allie
7. Flight Time & Big Easy

Possible Teams:
1. Zev & Justin
2. Kisha & Jen
3. Margie & Luke (too many Father/Mother/Son/Daughter Teams)

Tina, Starr, Jennifer (Nate & Jen) all posted fb status yesterday.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 21, 2010, 04:31:08 AM
I think Jet snd Cord,Flight time and Big easy may not on race since they are so obvious to figure out but no sightings of them now...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 21, 2010, 04:40:40 AM
Kevin tweeted that he was playin basketball with the globetrotters. I guess M/K are with FT/BE on the race?

My Speculated Teams:

Kynt/Vyxin
Jaime/Cara
Michael/Kevin
~~~~~~~~~~
Jodi/Shannon: Jody usually posts some things on FB. She suddenly stopped. Last Post. "Therapy for my right hip/glute was so painful (but in a good way) that I skipped running practice last night. Now for some stretches, an X-ray, more therapy, more stretches, and then maybe I'll be able to run again. Hope so. I'm not done running!

Margie/Luke: Luke stopped posting here on RFF
Jet/Cord: Most likely
Flight Time/Big Easy: Most Likely
Kisha/Jen: Most Likely
Gary/Mallory: Alot had been speculating there return
Zev/Justin: most likely
Eric/Lisa: If this is a "2nd Chance" Race, They SHOULD be here.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ovalorange on November 21, 2010, 05:37:06 AM
I am in Sydney, however I do have school tomorrow  (:;) and wouldn't have time to chase the teams. Does anyone have any idea where in Sydney they may be going? I'll keep my eyes peeled and camera ready though. Sorry to let you guys down  :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 21, 2010, 05:56:19 AM
As far as Michael and Kevin are concerned what do you think about this: http://twitter.com/#!/kevjumba

He has been consistently tweeting, could be fakes, I guess time will tell.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NotKaren on November 21, 2010, 05:56:41 AM
GARY!!!

He almost makes up for the horrid human being that is Jaime. And for having to watch Kevin treat his father like useless luggage. Again. I don't mind the Globetrotters so much since they can be entertaining, I just don't respect them from a RAAAAACE point of view.

I'm very happy to see Zev/Justin and Kynt/Vyx back, but I was expecting it. A little disappointed with the possible lack of Toni/Dallas. I liked Keisha and Jen, though I know the only reason they were back was because of the rivalry with Luke and Margie. Booo. I don't mind either team as much as I mind Jaime because they can be competent racers and stick to being ***holes to each other as opposed to being Ugly Americans to the people of the world.

Nat and Kat have probably won TAR17 and they're doctors, not mactors, they can't take another month off.

Brook is a camera-mugging nuisance so no thanks.

If they're doing Australia as a first stop, can it please be Tasmania? Or an even smaller island in Oceania? It just seems like not enough of a shock to the system to people who are for the most part very well-traveled and also experienced racers to have them in Sydney or Melbourne.

My secon-biggest YAY after Gary is westward-going race! Woohooooo!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on November 21, 2010, 07:06:17 AM
People, it's just speculation. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 21, 2010, 07:22:35 AM
I'm in Sydney, but with school tomorrow (and three periods of Maths to sit through) sadly I probably will be missing all the fun. (:;)

But I cannot believe we are having another All-Stars season! I actually enjoyed the first one (apart from the catastrophic ending :groan: ) so I might just love this one too (fingers crossed that TAR13 has some representation - my chioce would be the Divorcees or Terence & Sarah).

Hope we have a great season, and maybe I might something fishy around here! I certainly hope Sydney is the destination! :knuckles:

Keep up all the great work you guys do! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 21, 2010, 08:21:16 AM
Any sightings in the Sydney area would be starting about 8 AM Sydney time, 4 PM EST. So Sydney friends, keep an eye out all day Monday!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 21, 2010, 08:54:54 AM
But I thought the first flight arrived at 6 AM Sydney time?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on November 21, 2010, 09:46:17 AM
I know we are just speculating, but guys we have no clue where the first destination is. Australia would logically make sense, but our fantasy routes usually don't happen. We have to keep all possibilities open, and not just come to a conclusion that its Australia.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NotKaren on November 21, 2010, 09:52:39 AM
I hope you're right. There's parts of Australia I'd love to see on the Race for the first time (Tasmania for instance) because taking a bunch of (for the most part) experienced travelers and Racers and throwing them in a major English-speaking city on their first leg is kind of... underwhelming, unless you come up with truly killer tasks. It's just not as big of a shock to their systems as other destinations in the area could be.

I loved the All Stars Season up until the conclusion, it would have been one of my favorite seasons ever if it weren't for the dismal winners, mostly because of its the destinations. Mauritius! Madagascar! Back to back! Whoa! So fingers crossed if none of the South Pacific nations make it this time around they at least go to the Maldives.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NotKaren on November 21, 2010, 10:07:32 AM
Doh. I was editing that before you posted, but let it be publicly known that I'm dumb.  :lol3: I have those episodes running in the background as I'm typing right now.

Poland! I still think they should go back. Mostly because I'm there in December and I have a faint hope of stalking.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kacper on November 21, 2010, 10:32:13 AM
Doh. I was editing that before you posted, but let it be publicly known that I'm dumb.  :lol3: I have those episodes running in the background as I'm typing right now.

Poland! I still think they should go back. Mostly because I'm there in December and I have a faint hope of stalking.

Ya Poland!

I will be in Poland in December too and I can help with any i repeat ANY ( ;) ) polish tweet journal and stuff like that if they will be in polish :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Belle Book on November 21, 2010, 11:32:03 AM
*OFF TOPIC*
since there are few f/f teams, i think that a f/f team won TAR17

I've been thinking that either Brook & Claire or Nat & Kat have won TAR 17 for quite some time now.  So I agree with you -- one of those two teams won.  And I'm sure hoping it's Nat & Kat -- they're my favorite team (sorry, Mike4lyf)!

Belle Book
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Post by: mike4lyf on November 21, 2010, 12:21:13 PM
Haha no problem  :tup: I like them both really :D
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2010, 12:44:46 PM
I know we are just speculating, but guys we have no clue where the first destination is. Australia would logically make sense, but our fantasy routes usually don't happen. We have to keep all possibilities open, and not just come to a conclusion that its Australia.

Well, we have K/V looking at Australia books, AND a TSA employee saying that K/V were thru security for the Qantas flight....but you can choose not to believe that if you want of course.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 01:16:12 PM
Were teams aboard QS08, the flight that had to reboard in Honolulu after a technical difficulty
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2010, 01:17:45 PM
Any sightings in the Sydney area would be starting about 8 AM Sydney time, 4 PM EST. So Sydney friends, keep an eye out all day Sunday!!

Except that it will MONDAY for them!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 01:19:50 PM
QF 12    10:25pm-8:00 am
QF 108   11:50pm- 9:25 am

Are these the two flights? The first had to stop in Honolulu for some technical reason...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 21, 2010, 02:07:54 PM
QF 12    10:25pm-8:00 am
QF 108   11:50pm- 9:25 am

Are these the two flights? The first had to stop in Honolulu for some technical reason...

As far as I understand they are on 108. It should land in a little over two hours.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 02:09:22 PM
QF 108 is 2 hours and 15 minutes from anticipated arrival.
OF 12   is 2 hours and 50 minures from anticipated arrival.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 21, 2010, 02:17:30 PM
Is the information that all the teams are on just the one flight (108)? I think that is what is confusing at the moment. Or is it that since we don't have confirmation of the other teams (besides the three initially tweeted) we don't know if the remaining as yet unconfirmed teams are on that flight or which other flight they may be on.  What I am reading in the various threads makes me think that is what folks are not completely clear on. (And for the moment, I count myself among them.)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2010, 02:21:20 PM
Confirmed teams on 108. Other flights also possible but not confirmed.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Chateau d If on November 21, 2010, 02:21:22 PM
I'd say

QF 108 100% likely
QF 12 50% likely
DL 17 70% likely
VA 2 2% likely
UA 839 1 % likely
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2010, 02:22:16 PM
I'd say

QF 108 100% likely
QF 12 50% likely
DL 17 70% likely
VA 2 2% likely<<<<good PHIL flight :lol:
UA 839 1 % likely

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 21, 2010, 02:24:45 PM
I do think that there will be 2 legs in Australia, and a leg really close to Australia, (ie Indonesia or New Zealand), take season 13, 14, 15, 16 into example.

My spec is next leg in Melbourne (lots of flights), then Bali, then another Indonesian destination, and then a leg in India.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on November 21, 2010, 02:25:10 PM
Is this an all-star season?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: BayBay on November 21, 2010, 02:26:26 PM
Whoever was saying Sydney customs and border control is quick think again. Expect AT LEAST 40 mins between landing and them entering the arrivals hall especially on a Monday morning with so many flights arriving simultaneously. Hope they are not transiting to another city...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 02:34:03 PM
Is this an all-star season?

It is a season of "former racers." What CBS will call it when it comes time to promote it is anyone's guess. We have heard the term "2nd chance race."
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 21, 2010, 02:35:24 PM
First leg flights are always producer provided; this also allows Phil to get where he needs to be at the first destination country ahead of the teams.

Thanks, Peach for clarifying what the info status was.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on November 21, 2010, 02:35:59 PM
Is this an all-star season?

It is a season of "former racers." What CBS will call it when it comes time to promote it is anyone's guess. We have heard the term "2nd chance race."

Thanks for your reply. Can't wait to see this season, always nice to see former teams.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on November 21, 2010, 02:42:38 PM
Does anyone know where they will proceed to after Australia?*
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 21, 2010, 02:43:38 PM
If the route of TAR 11 is any guide vis-a-vis the places those participating Racers had been to prior to that season, there may be return visits for some of the teams. (Oswald-Danny had been to Hong Kong for TAR 2 and again for TAR 11.) I do not think we can assume that none of those venues visited by returning teams won't be included this time.)

I posted it in the spec thread, but I think Melbourne, Bali, Jakarta/Yogyakarta/Surabaya, and a stop in India are likely. Then possibly 2 legs in East Africa (TAR hasn't been there in a while, possibly Egypt?).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 02:50:32 PM
Just a historical recap......

TAR 12  ????
TAR 13......two flights to Brasil.
TAR 14......two flights....one to Zurich, one to Milan
TAR 15....???
TAR 16......two flights to Chile.....but all teams ended up on one, due to problems with plane and jumpy racers.
TAR 17....two flights to London

My spec only.......
TAR 18....probably the two Qantas flights, since they are both codeshares with American Airlines, a sponsor
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2010, 02:50:56 PM
Does anyone know where they will proceed to after Australia?*

Welcome to RFF Oddarane! :waves:

The best thing to do is just keep reading the spoiler threads, anything we know will make its way there!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 21, 2010, 02:52:19 PM
My spec only.......
TAR 18....probably the two Qantas flights, since they are both codeshares with American Airlines, a sponsor

That makes the most sense to me.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on November 21, 2010, 02:52:29 PM
Does anyone know where they will proceed to after Australia?*

Welcome to RFF Oddarane! :waves:

The best thing to do is just keep reading the spoiler threads, anything we know will make its way there!

Thanks for the welcome. Nice to be here. Finally I found my way here and I look forward to meeting other TAR fans. TAR is the best reality show ever made.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 21, 2010, 02:53:25 PM
Just a historical recap......

TAR 12  ????
TAR 13......two flights to Brasil.
TAR 14......two flights....one to Zurich, one to Milan
TAR 15....???
TAR 16......two flights to Chile.....but all teams ended up on one, due to problems with plane and jumpy racers.
TAR 17....two flights to London

My spec only.......
TAR 18....probably the two Qantas flights, since they are both codeshares with American Airlines, a sponsor

Just wanted to say, American Airlines is no longer a sponsor for the race.  That changed when Season7 aired, the sponsorship is now with Travelocity.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 21, 2010, 02:58:15 PM
I thought the racers, when they are sequestered before the race, are forbidden to use electronic communication devices except during the race when they can book flights/travel arrangements?
 :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 21, 2010, 02:58:28 PM
mjriches, there may still be something with American Airlines.  If you go through the seasons since seven, many first leg flights still have an American Airlines flight involved.

And this is speculative, it also explains why some potential start cities haven't been used because American does not have a large international flight presence in those cities; e.g., Atlanta (the HQ for Delta), and Minneapolis-St. Paul (now a second hub for Delta after a merger a couple of years ago.)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 21, 2010, 03:01:29 PM
I thought the racers, when they are sequestered before the race, are forbidden to use electronic communication devices except during the race when they can book flights/travel arrangements?
 :duno:

they could have some1 do it @ home
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 21, 2010, 03:06:57 PM
I thought the racers, when they are sequestered before the race, are forbidden to use electronic communication devices except during the race when they can book flights/travel arrangements?
 :duno:

they could have some1 do it @ home

Probally not, its a crime to impersonate someone on the internet if its a blog or tweet if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 03:07:22 PM
Just a historical recap......

TAR 12  ????
TAR 13......two flights to Brasil.
TAR 14......two flights....one to Zurich, one to Milan
TAR 15....???
TAR 16......two flights to Chile.....but all teams ended up on one, due to problems with plane and jumpy racers.
TAR 17....two flights to London

My spec only.......
TAR 18....probably the two Qantas flights, since they are both codeshares with American Airlines, a sponsor

Just wanted to say, American Airlines is no longer a sponsor for the race.  That changed when Season7 aired, the sponsorship is now with Travelocity.

You are certainly correct there.....but what if........and I know this takes a great leap of faith......but what if American Airlines owned Travelocity.....could we say that American Airlines was in fact a sponsor?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 21, 2010, 03:11:25 PM
American Airlines doesn't own Travelocity.  If it did, why would Travelocity list airlines that are American's competitors (United, Delta, USAir) then?  Travelocity is not owned by any airline!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 03:15:54 PM
American Airlines doesn't own Travelocity.  If it did, why would Travelocity list airlines that are American's competitors (United, Delta, USAir) then?  Travelocity is not owned by any airline!!

As you wish........you win.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 03:20:48 PM
KevJumba, has been twittering within the last 20mins
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NotKaren on November 21, 2010, 03:21:59 PM
I'm surprised nobody has been jumping the gun yet into speculating who will be eliminated.... [dramatic Phil pause] FIRST! :)

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: BayBay on November 21, 2010, 03:24:31 PM
If Micheal and Kevin are really back they better be eliminated FIRST!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarobbsessed24 on November 21, 2010, 03:26:09 PM
If Micheal and Kevin are really back they better be eliminated FIRST!!!

how dare you! lol :ascared
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 03:26:29 PM
IF production did split the teams between QF 12 and QF 108 with the first teams to the airport on the first flight and slower teams to the airport on 2nd flight....the irony is the slower teams will get to Sydney first. I remember that happening in TAR 6 and TAR 7 5.......due to flight delays on 1st flights.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NotKaren on November 21, 2010, 03:27:41 PM
If Micheal and Kevin are really back they better be eliminated FIRST!!!

 :tup: Yes, please. Sorry, Michael.

I want to think good thoughts for all of them while they're up in the air and wish them safe travels in real time. I'm actually quite pleased to see for the second season in a row there are no more than (possibly) 3 teams I don't like.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 03:30:37 PM
Before TAR 15 started, TPTB encouraed Maria and Tiffany to continue to post on their Twitter and Facebook accounts, up until the day before the race actually started.

It's not like jet planes dont have internet acccess anymore......do you think they might be still following TPTB instructions to continue to post?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 03:30:49 PM
I'd much rather we found out some of the sightings are fake and KenTina, RonChris and NateJen are back instead!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: GabrielP on November 21, 2010, 03:31:52 PM
IMO, Nate & Jen are way more deserving than a few of the selected teams.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 03:32:49 PM
And, is anyone on the ground in Sydney? Idk, I also don't believe we do...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 03:34:38 PM
QF 108 is 47 minutes from arrival
QF 12   is 86 minutes from arrival
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 03:40:53 PM
Delta? Peach listed that as a possibility and is 21 mins from landing...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Mandoli on November 21, 2010, 03:48:41 PM
TAR 15....???

I think there were two flights here. *goes to check* Yeah, two flights. First one held five teams, second one held six. I might be mistaken on the distribution.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 04:10:50 PM
QF 108 is 10 minutes from arrival
QF 12   is 50 minutes from arrival
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 04:12:59 PM
QF108 is 28 mins from arrival...?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 04:22:18 PM
QF 108 is on the ground
QF 12 is 38 minutes out
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 04:23:06 PM
I'm hoping for some racers!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on November 21, 2010, 04:24:25 PM
do we have anyone in the sydney area watching for the teams?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 04:25:43 PM
I wish we did...but noone has stepped forward atm!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 04:27:42 PM
Let's hope someone made it...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 04:29:25 PM
watch the teams all be at a pitstop in Iceland or something at the moment cause we have been putting all of our searching into Sydney stuff X_X
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 04:31:31 PM
watch the teams all be at a pitstop in Iceland or something at the moment cause we have been putting all of our searching into Sydney stuff X_X

What's with the negative waves........lol

Just a FYI.......
DL 17 landed about 12 minutes ago
UA 839 landed about 45 minutes ago......

So the Immigration/Custom Hall will be quite busy.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 04:32:44 PM
hahah I'm not trying to be negative. I was just saying, that would be funny
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NotKaren on November 21, 2010, 04:34:02 PM
watch the teams all be at a pitstop in Iceland or something at the moment cause we have been putting all of our searching into Sydney stuff X_X

Lol or Toronto!!!!!

Hehe. Not sure Northern Europe is a good place to race at this time of the year, unless they're going for a Nighttime Edition.  :lol: Going West makes more sense at this point, not to mention none of the speculated teams have raced in Oz before.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 04:35:44 PM
DL 17 landed.
QF 12 delayed to est 1025
QT 108 expected 0940

I am assuming these are gate arrival times from FlightStats......right?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: BayBay on November 21, 2010, 04:36:24 PM
Check Sydney Airport website...there's the most updated
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarobbsessed24 on November 21, 2010, 04:36:38 PM
speculating:

since the start was at night, i think the starting line was indoors  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on November 21, 2010, 04:37:56 PM
speculating:

since the start was at night, i think the starting line was indoors  :duno:

If It was started indoors, I would guess they started at the Staples Center.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 04:40:14 PM
The racers began arriving at LAX around 6pm Pacific yesterday...

Who know what they could have been doing before arriving at the airport.. Startline task, route infos, etc.

The race could have still started while it was light out. Right?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 04:41:39 PM
There was an idea that there was a startline task (peach said) and so this may be why they arrived at 6pm at the Airport
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 04:43:31 PM
Yes. Exactally Kiwi..

And people tweeted the sightings at the airport around 6pm Pacific.

So it could have taken them awhile to actually send the message to twitter.. Especially if they are working at the airport, etc.


Currently i am just searching ... "airport" near:"Sydney" ... in twitter haha
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 21, 2010, 04:44:16 PM
speculating:

since the start was at night, i think the starting line was indoors  :duno:

If It was started indoors, I would guess they started at the Staples Center.

There was a Knicks vs Clippers NBA game there yesterday evening, so it's pretty much unlikely they started there.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on November 21, 2010, 04:47:21 PM
Yes. Exactally Kiwi..

And people tweeted the sightings at the airport around 6pm Pacific.

So it could have taken them awhile to actually send the message to twitter.. Especially if they are working at the airport, etc.


Currently i am just searching ... "airport" near:"Sydney" ... in twitter haha

me too

I have been searching The Amazing Race and Sydney Airport.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: BayBay on November 21, 2010, 04:48:05 PM
Facebook is one we should be checking. I am doing that. No one uses Twitter in Oz...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2010, 04:49:35 PM
Check Sydney Airport website...there's the most updated

Is there a webcam?? :flirt:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: BayBay on November 21, 2010, 04:51:13 PM
I wish Peach...no but there are harbor webcams. gonna scan for clueboxes  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: RichInSydney on November 21, 2010, 04:58:19 PM
Check Sydney Airport website...there's the most updated

Is there a webcam?? :flirt:
Here's a link to all Sydney and NSW traffic cams! Keep a look out for the marked cars! lol

http://livetraffic.rta.nsw.gov.au/
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: walkingpneumonia on November 21, 2010, 05:01:41 PM
Check Sydney Airport website...there's the most updated

Is there a webcam?? :flirt:
Here's a link to all Sydney and NSW traffic cams! Keep a look out for the marked cars! lol

http://livetraffic.rta.nsw.gov.au/
Here's a webcam at Bondi Beach - I doubt we'll see teams but at least it'll make you feel warm on a sub-zero night.
http://www.northbondirsl.com.au/cam.html
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 21, 2010, 05:08:06 PM
Are there any live cams of the Sydney Opera House? The teams will probably go there at some point.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 05:08:50 PM
RichinSydney, thats very helpful, people get a camera! Sydney Opera House maybe? There's a camera just outside of the airport too!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NotKaren on November 21, 2010, 05:11:02 PM
I think China's fair game as well, since they didn't go there in TAR 17.
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I guess Hong Kong could be considered different enough from some of China's less explored regions, but TAR17 did go to China.

China and India are always fair game, they might even do both. I just think it's India's turn. Unless they do Australia/Indonesia/South Asian country and skip India because it would be the fifth or sixth leg in the same type of climate and they want to go for some variety and not spend half the race in the same (vast) neighborhood. Sadly, given the time of the year, Kazakhstan will probably still not be featured on TAR. 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Zvarri on November 21, 2010, 05:16:30 PM
Look out for clue boxes and route markers if there are any.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 05:25:41 PM
Trains at Kingsford Smith Airport
The Airport Link train connects Sydney Airport to Central Station and Circular Quay. The Airport Link information desk is located in T3 Arrivals hall, next to baggage carousel 1. Ticket prices begin from A$15.00 for a single adult ticket from the Domestic Terminal to Central Station.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 21, 2010, 05:30:47 PM
So, if most of the teams appear on the Wii cover...could the Wii game give us clues for the race course?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: BayBay on November 21, 2010, 05:32:26 PM
OMG this is intense!! The train can be taken to Central and from there anywhere is possible!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 05:38:41 PM
Peach, is this info eminating from FB/Twitter...this is clearly the best place to ask...Live Sightings hell no guys!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 21, 2010, 05:39:29 PM
Peach, is this info eminating from FB/Twitter...this is clearly the best place to ask...Live Sightings hell no guys!!
I think we shouldn't compromise our source...for all we know it could be puddin doing field work :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2010, 05:40:02 PM
It is coming from heaven. (http://planetsmilies.net/angel-smiley-5097.gif)

Quit questioning a gift.


Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 05:41:19 PM
And that answers it, for the people who think Live Sightings is neccessarily the right place. Peach, I think they just wanted to be in on your spoilers! Having a go at detecting!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 05:45:02 PM
And that answers it, for the people who think Live Sightings is neccessarily the right place. Peach, I think they just wanted to be in on your spoilers! Having a go at detecting!

People can be in on it.....just do it in the Speculation Thread.....leave the sightings thread for raw data. It makes much easier to find later without all the comements, discussions etc in that thread.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 05:46:37 PM
Exactly, this is the correct thread, unlike the spoilers thread some just posted on!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NotKaren on November 21, 2010, 06:05:30 PM
My eyes are too blurry from sleeplessness to actually see anything, but...

http://www.earthtv.com/en/camera-destination/sydney-australia
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 21, 2010, 07:42:07 PM
Teams in Manly at Ocean World. May be a swimming task of some sort.
Yes I picked it! Xtreme Shark Dive. All sessions booked out today.

http://oceanworld.myfun.com.au/Shark-Dive-Xtreme/Information-and-Prices.htm

Roadblock to search for a chest maybe
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: RichInSydney on November 21, 2010, 07:43:55 PM
Teams in Manly at Ocean World. May be a swimming task of some sort.
Yes I picked it! Xtreme Shark Dive. All sessions booked out today.

http://oceanworld.myfun.com.au/Shark-Dive-Xtreme/Information-and-Prices.htm

Roadblock to search for a chest maybe
Yes or feed the sharks. Definately a Road Block. They should be there a while. I remember someone didn't complete the task in TAR Asia, too scared to go in the water!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2010, 08:08:28 PM
OMG this is the spoiler leg of the century!! :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 08:20:32 PM
Peach, your a star...I'll just sit back and read you from now on!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 21, 2010, 08:22:28 PM
It is not me...I am just a messenger!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 08:25:27 PM
This is so great, first photo of the Goths as well...and with the realtruthflavor back as well...this season looks epic now!!! Apart from KenTina exclusion (robbed!!!)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 09:26:00 PM
2.25am in the morning, if a 12-hr-pitstop....I hope someone can find where they're off to next...If NZ (Auckland etc), I'll be there
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: RichInSydney on November 21, 2010, 09:28:04 PM
So the next leg should start around noon tomorrow?
I'm going for a double leg in Australia. Teams could stay in Sydney or go on a 6am domestic flight? NZ is a chance but its going backwards in the route considering they are going in a Westerly direction  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 21, 2010, 09:29:03 PM
Important disclaimer: There is no such thing as a 12h Pit Stop anymore!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gsrqh on November 21, 2010, 09:29:34 PM
I'm in Melbourne if they come down here!!!   :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on November 21, 2010, 09:30:05 PM
Important disclaimer: There is no such thing as a 12h Pit Stop anymore!

what do you mean by this?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on November 21, 2010, 09:30:37 PM
I'm in Melbourne if they come down here!!!   :tup:

I doubt it since it was visited on Season 13.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 09:31:33 PM
Important disclaimer: There is no such thing as a 12h Pit Stop anymore!

what do you mean by this?

He "meant" exactly what he said.

So the next leg should start around noon tomorrow?

The next leg will start when Production wants it to start, regardless of the time length of the pit stop.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 21, 2010, 09:31:45 PM
Important disclaimer: There is no such thing as a 12h Pit Stop anymore!

what do you mean by this?
most of the recent Pit Stops haven't been 12 hours long
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 21, 2010, 09:31:50 PM
2.25am in the morning, if a 12-hr-pitstop....I hope someone can find where they're off to next...If NZ (Auckland etc), I'll be there

get Coutzy and company to stake out at Melbourne, possibly the MCG

I'm in Melbourne if they come down here!!!   :tup:

I doubt it since it was visited on Season 13.

no, that was Auckland
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 09:33:42 PM
We have our 1st Pitstop... so does that mean we will be able to figure out the 1st team eliminated by tonight and wont have to wait until teams start next leg?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on November 21, 2010, 09:33:56 PM
2.25am in the morning, if a 12-hr-pitstop....I hope someone can find where they're off to next...If NZ (Auckland etc), I'll be there

get Coutzy and company to stake out at Melbourne, possibly the MCG

I'm in Melbourne if they come down here!!!   :tup:

I doubt it since it was visited on Season 13.

no, that was Auckland

oops, sorry about that.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 21, 2010, 09:38:54 PM
wow, I can feel for the editors and all the work they have to put in to sum up all of these events in less than 50 minutes of footage, hopefully we'll get another 90-minute premiere
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 21, 2010, 09:41:35 PM
wow, I can feel for the editors and all the work they have to put in to sum up all of these events in less than 50 minutes of footage, hopefully we'll get another 90-minute premiere

if there is a starting line task, then it'll definitely be 90 minutes
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 21, 2010, 09:43:30 PM
K&J arrived at Pitstop but ran back...


AHhhhh! Gary and Mallory please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 09:46:13 PM
I bet they didnt pay the taxis
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 21, 2010, 09:46:30 PM
Good point.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 10:05:31 PM
Would they do a To Be Continued leg this early in the race?

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 10:08:00 PM
Could be edited into an episode similar to the TAR 15 premirere

Starting line elimination , than a non-elimination.

In this case though, a TBC leg..
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 10:12:46 PM
well didn't peach say the racers kept running away from Phil after checking in?

and 4 people purchased tickets for something?

Maybe those things are unrelated.... i just got a To Be Continued vibe
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 21, 2010, 10:15:19 PM
There's no rule that they have to get to the first elimination on the first night, even if it is a TBC leg or a NEL with an elimination on a second leg.

When I saw Peach's mention that four teams had bought Captain Cook's tour tickets, that made me think there is a TBC, and that the mention of the Express Pass goes to the first team that finds Phil, not necessarily the winner of the leg. Peach did not say teams were running away from Phil, but she did say the teams are not spending very much time with him. But she did say there was a local greeter -- a male surfer; so who knows at the moment if this was a complete leg with an elimination, an NEL or a TBC.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 21, 2010, 10:33:32 PM
FB:

Just got filmed and had to sign waivers to be on tv for pointing the goth couple in the right direction on the amazing race Australia. Hahaha
2 minutes ago via iPhone

Comment-
 Oh great, now we know the Goth couple will at least make it to Australia! ;) I'll be sure to watch for you! Lol


Lol they think they are on TAR Aus. He better chase them down and take them to the pitstop

THEY CHECKED IN!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD I AM SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 10:35:21 PM
X_X

hahaha

that facebook status about the guy having to sign a waiver for pointing Kynt and Vyxsin in the right direction..

than right after it, Peach posts that they checked in X_X haha

looks like Cowboys were last..

I really hope they didnt half ass it so he could go home to his wife and honeymoon... just so they could get some publicity.. Other teams would have enjoyed the opportunity
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 21, 2010, 10:42:42 PM
This will be no different than any other season. There will be a sequester of eliminated teams. So I seriously doubt the Cowboys would half-ass it.  That would be totally contrary to everything they've shown in the past, and what they've said in the past about their competitiveness.

If Mel-Mike haven't been seen after the apparent roadblock task, then they may in face be the last team to arrive.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on November 21, 2010, 10:43:25 PM
I am confused. Which team is getting eliminated? Cowboys?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 10:44:24 PM
Teams are continuing on...its a TBC Leg!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Mandoli on November 21, 2010, 10:44:30 PM
I am confused. Which team is getting eliminated? Cowboys?

Apparently it's TBC, so nobody yet.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 21, 2010, 10:45:01 PM
Oh God, I was hoping for a Pit Stop so I could check in!

I'm mighty exhausted! :lol:

Please go to the airport so I can catch a breather!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 21, 2010, 10:45:35 PM
Don't know for sure if any team is getting eliminated yet. Which is why I worded my last post as last team to arrive.

There are a lot of comments about the Cowboys coming in last, but I'm saying I am not sure about that, and Mel-Mike haven't been accounted for at his moment.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 10:46:35 PM
Mel and Mike checked in right behind RonChris, theschnauzers...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: RichInSydney on November 21, 2010, 10:46:52 PM
But when the first teams arrived, did they rush off again? I thought G/M looked happy etc... Doesn't seem right. If this is a TBC... are they going back to the airport? Or back to Circular Quay?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Mandoli on November 21, 2010, 10:47:25 PM
Mel and Mike checked in right behind RonChris, theschnauzers...

^ Yeah. I was going to say that I swear I saw a post where Ron/Christina checked in and Mel/Mike weren't too far behind.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 10:47:48 PM
Hell maybe Kynt and Vyxsin are going to a hotel....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 21, 2010, 10:47:57 PM
But when the first teams arrived, did they rush off again? I thought G/M looked happy etc... Doesn't seem right. If this is a TBC... are they going back to the airport? Or back to Circular Quay?

Yeah, and where are we supposed to be looking
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 21, 2010, 10:48:34 PM
I dont believe that it is a TBC to be honest.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Mister RC on November 21, 2010, 10:49:06 PM
Quote
I guess they would do a TBC so for atleast 2 episodes fans can see there favourite teams.

This sort of worries me.  Save for that mess of a 2-hour premiere in TAR15, there hasn't been a single 2 hour episode since 2007.  Based on when the TV schedule would allow for TAR to start, this is one season where one would not want to see a 2-hr episode.  But if there is one, I'd prefer the finale or mid-season.  Fair enough.

Since the TV schedule might "force" TAR to give us a 2-hour episode, I totally expect them to do a double episode in the first week, which sucks.  However, a leg one TBC is fitting, because the second hour would eliminate the second team (while canceling out one of 3 NEL).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 10:49:47 PM
Yes.. people were wondering about that when the 1st 4 teams checked in..

They would walk up to Phil and than didn't talk with him for long. And than would quickly run away.. (now apparently the teams are heading back to Sydney)

Gary and Mallory possibly came in 1st and that explains the happiness /smiling. Maybe they got express pass?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: RichInSydney on November 21, 2010, 10:51:10 PM
Maybe they noticed too many people spoiling so they are trying to put us off!  :lol:

We need Peach to confirm if the teams rushed off after they got to pitstop or not.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on November 21, 2010, 10:51:41 PM
So have the cowboys checked in yet?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 21, 2010, 10:52:02 PM
Peach reported that Phil was seen taking a clue out from under the mat, and the only reason he's do that is because this leg is a TBC.

Speaking of which, I'm glad to see that the uberleg is still part of the game.  I've always wanted to see this used in the first leg, and apparently that is exactly what is happening.

Second, I suspect the entire uberleg will be in and around Sydney. The last time TAR was there, it was technically only a half of a leg (there was a detour in Hong Kong first and the roadblock was the famous "Slang" roadblock in Sdyney. The city more than deserves a full leg plus on TAR.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 21, 2010, 10:53:32 PM
Still not convinced it is Double leg, unless it is a driving leg and that is why we havent seen anyone else.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 21, 2010, 10:53:49 PM
Quick recap of check-in times from Peach, bracketed teams are unconfirmed.

1431h: LaKisha/Jennifer
1438h: Zev/Justin
(Amanda/Kris, Gary/Mallory)
1459h: Herbert/Nathanael
1503h: Jaime/Cara
1509h: Margie/Luke
1514h: Ronald/Christina
(Mel/Mike)
1532h: Kynt/Vyxsin
(Jet/Cord)

Edited: Herbert/Nathanael timing fixed, thanks Kiwi.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gsrqh on November 21, 2010, 10:54:22 PM
Oh God, I was hoping for a Pit Stop so I could check in!

I'm mighty exhausted! :lol:

Please go to the airport so I can catch a breather!

I'm with you !!  :zzz
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 10:55:34 PM
Maybe they noticed too many people spoiling so they are trying to put us off!  :lol:

We need Peach to confirm if the teams rushed off after they got to pitstop or not.

peach already confirmed this..

the teams would check in with Phil, than would quickly run off.. At first im sure people thought the Team might have made a mistake and had to fix it, but alot of the teams started doing the same thing
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on November 21, 2010, 10:56:24 PM
Maybe they noticed too many people spoiling so they are trying to put us off!  :lol:

We need Peach to confirm if the teams rushed off after they got to pitstop or not.

peach already confirmed this..

the teams would check in with Phil, than would quickly run off.. At first im sure people thought the Team might have made a mistake and had to fix it, but alot of the teams started doing the same thing

Peach, Have Jet and Cord checked in yet?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 10:56:54 PM
Neobie, FT and BE checked in at 1459
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 21, 2010, 10:57:02 PM
Bracing for Melbourne? Duration: 1:30, and flights literally depart every 15 minutes.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 21, 2010, 11:10:22 PM
Quick recap of check-in times from Peach, bracketed teams are unconfirmed.

1431h: LaKisha/Jennifer
1438h: Zev/Justin
(Amanda/Kris, Gary/Mallory)
1459h: Herbert/Nathanael
1503h: Jaime/Cara
1509h: Margie/Luke
1514h: Ronald/Christina
(Mel/Mike)
1532h: Kynt/Vyxsin
(Jet/Cord)

Edited: Herbert/Nathanael timing fixed, thanks Kiwi.

Does this mean that Michael and Kevin are last? Hasn't it been confirmed that they are a part of this season?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 11:11:02 PM
No, Michael and Kevin were somehow mistaken for Ronald and Christina!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 11:11:18 PM
Home from LA! Really dramatic flight! Medical emergency required landing mid way in Honolulu after dumping 30,000 pounds of fuel. Then storms near Fiji diverted us another 2 hours! Got to Sydney and no gate allocated! 8 teams of the "Amazing Race" were on my flight - two sitting next to me - drew maps and helped with their clues for Sydney! What a flight!
6 minutes ago
 -- AS POSTED BY WHITEBOARD (found on FB)

Well we saw for our own eyes that there was that flight that got redirected to Honolulu. So unless this is some uberfan trying to make us fall for this info, it sounds pretty legitimate.

Could explain the "lead" that Gary/Mallory, Kisha/Jen, Amanda/Kris and Zev/Justin had.. (the person did say 8 teams were on the flight though so idk. maybe there were really 7.. or just one of those 4 teams i mentioned caught up)

THANK YOU WHITE BOARD
WELCOME :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 21, 2010, 11:13:40 PM
No, Michael and Kevin were somehow mistaken for Ronald and Christina!!!!

Lol, so Michael and Kevin are there. Thank you :) I am new here and still getting used to everything. Y'all are awesome here!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 21, 2010, 11:14:32 PM
No, that would explain it, because remember G/M K/J and A/K all were on the first ferry.

Zev and Justin were on second but mustve blitzed through the tasks
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 21, 2010, 11:15:33 PM
Captain Cook Cruises, my parents have taken before there's a hop on hop off day pass which involves travelling to Luna Fun Park, check it out! This could be a possible destination, great for a detour or roadblock!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 11:16:00 PM
No. Michael and Kevin were only THOUGHT to be on the race because of Kevin's mysterious posts on Twitter

and an eye witness at LAX Airport saying they saw "2 asians" or "2 asian men"

so people assumed it was Michael and Kevin when really it was Ron and Christina
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: north09 on November 21, 2010, 11:16:07 PM
No, Michael and Kevin were somehow mistaken for Ronald and Christina!!!!

Lol, so Michael and Kevin are there. Thank you :) I am new here and still getting used to everything. Y'all are awesome here!

No, Ron & Christina were confused for being them. Michael & Kevin are not racing. It's easy to be confused with all these posts.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on November 21, 2010, 11:17:13 PM
do we know if Jet and Cord have checked in yet?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 21, 2010, 11:18:08 PM
OMG this is the spoiler leg of the century!! :jumpy:

Peach, it's just like your narrating a future episode of TAR ala "Show Discussion Updates and Commentary" thingy. :lol: GOOD JOB! :hearts:

(Sorry if this is chatter.)
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Post by: north09 on November 21, 2010, 11:18:38 PM
It would seem as if they haven't. I'll laugh when they do.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 11:20:03 PM
Hmm .. kinda sucks that the first leg of an "All Stars" edition, there was grouping because of a flight.

Maybe the TBC thing was a last minute idea to make sure everything was fair? Than again, its not productions fault that 8 teams were stuck on a flight that had to land somewhere else for a bit. While 3 other teams gained a lead

If the teams were all even, I'm sure the teams would be in much different rankings.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 21, 2010, 11:20:32 PM
do we know if Jet and Cord have checked in yet?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 11:22:21 PM
Hmm. Not sure if Jet and Cord have checked in yet... Is it possible that the people we are getting this info from decided to follow the teams to their next destination if it is in fact a TBC leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 21, 2010, 11:31:38 PM
No. Michael and Kevin were only THOUGHT to be on the race because of Kevin's mysterious posts on Twitter

and an eye witness at LAX Airport saying they saw "2 asians" or "2 asian men"

so people assumed it was Michael and Kevin when really it was Ron and Christina

Oh ok. Thanks :) I have to be up in less than 3 hours but these updates are keeping me on edge lol.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 21, 2010, 11:33:16 PM
Another posibility to the TBC........

In a lot of TARs.......the end of the first leg is a "take a number or time" for departure the next day to finish the leg.......Phil could have been handing out times and instructions for the teams. Looking at that Captain Cook Tours website.......the Hop on and Hop off ride has a couple of places where they could isolate the teams over night and release them the next morning.....or whenever......plus buying the ticket is good for 24 hours......just a thought.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 21, 2010, 11:39:36 PM
Dr. Rox, it sounds as if there's been a detour and a roadblock on the first day, and so, the TBC makes better sense. Phil hasn't given out clues, except for a TBC in-leg mat situation, and that is the only thing that makes any sense.

Meanwhile there's that item just re-posted in this thread that the observer said was a team from two seasons ago -- as TAR 17 is currently being aired there, is it possible that was a reference to Jet-Cord; is it possible the source didn't see them reach Phil? I'm not saying they aren't last, just that they made it without the source seeing them.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 21, 2010, 11:46:00 PM
Dr. Rox, it sounds as if there's been a detour and a roadblock on the first day, and so, the TBC makes better sense. Phil hasn't given out clues, except for a TBC in-leg mat situation, and that is the only thing that makes any sense.

Meanwhile there's that item just re-posted in this thread that the observer said was a team from two seasons ago -- as TAR 17 is currently being aired there, is it possible that was a reference to Jet-Cord; is it possible the source didn't see them reach Phil? I'm not saying they aren't last, just that they made it without the source seeing them.

Is there time for a detour? It seems to me as if the leg is Train to Circular Quay to Harbor Bridge (About 11:00-11:30), Ferry to Manly (12:00), RB at Oceanworld Manly (1:00), General task at Manly Yacht Club (1:30-2:00), Midpoint at TBC (2:30-3:30).

Also, I think there may be activity at the airport. The next logical destination, if teams are flying out, is Melbourne.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarflyonthewall on November 21, 2010, 11:46:48 PM
Quote
Second, I suspect the entire uberleg will be in and around Sydney. The last time TAR was there, it was technically only a half of a leg (there was a detour in Hong Kong first and the roadblock was the famous "Slang" roadblock in Sdyney. The city more than deserves a full leg plus on TAR.

The city has had two full legs -- TAR Asia 1 and TAR Israel, as well as the major parts of two other episodes, including part of a TBC and the TAR2 two-hour episode. Especially when you consider that all Australia's second largest city has had is the TAR Australia starting line and a flight connection, Sydney really doesn't need any more.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 21, 2010, 11:53:17 PM
I was wondering myself if the

"Under the bridge for the clue" thing was the Roadblock maybe?

And the OceanWorld thing was the detour.. weren't some teams doing sailing while others were swimming for an object?

Or were those the same tasks.. or one was just a route info?

So confused.

When was Jet and Cord spotted with a Red Clue..... and where are they X_X
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ltvols on November 21, 2010, 11:58:07 PM
according to tweets regarding circular qual, pitt st, martin pl - according the maps, they could be going to Hyde Park.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 22, 2010, 12:06:20 AM
Just remember American and Canadian viewers haven't seen the Asian or other regional editions. As far as they are concerned, they've only seen the Race in Sydney from TAR 2.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 22, 2010, 12:16:38 AM
Okay so i am trying to find these locations on a map to see what makes sense..

So far it seems possible that after Pitstop, teams headed back to Circular Quay (by driving) than had to walk to Pyrmont Bridge which is 4 minutes away from there.. Pitt St. is like a street or 2 over from where circular quay is
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 22, 2010, 12:18:17 AM
it would take 30 minutes on foot though to get from Circular Quay to Pyrmont Bridge..

teams were seen on foot though at Pitt St. and Pyrmont Bridge
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: RichInSydney on November 22, 2010, 12:20:22 AM
Okay so i am trying to find these locations on a map to see what makes sense..

So far it seems possible that after Pitstop, teams headed back to Circular Quay (by driving) than had to walk to Pyrmont Bridge which is 4 minutes away from there.. Pitt St. is like a street or 2 over from where circular quay is
I'd say they got the ferry or Captain Cook Cruise boats back to Circular Quay, then Pitt Street, Pyrmont Bridge (Darling Harbour) and Martin Place all on foot. (No particular order).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 22, 2010, 12:26:19 AM
I wonder why G/M and R/C were running from the Marriot Hotel together though?

Hmm the ferries could be how Ron and Christina caught up if thats the case
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarflyonthewall on November 22, 2010, 12:36:33 AM
Just remember American and Canadian viewers haven't seen the Asian or other regional editions. As far as they are concerned, they've only seen the Race in Sydney from TAR 2.

I understand that, but there's soooooo much more to Australia than Sydney, which is what the producers of the various versions appear to have trouble realising (which is weird given TAR Asia and TAR Israel were both made by a Melbourne-based production company).

And even ignoring the foreign visits -- Sydney's been done before, but a bunch of other major Aussie cities haven't. Melbourne. Hobart. Adelaide. Alice Springs. Canberra. Broome. It's more that a city is getting repeated so often around the place than the fact that it's Sydney specifically -- I have the same issues with Auckland being used every time the race goes to New Zealand (though TARA4 finally ended that run).

It's not as if Melbourne is hard to get to (it's a hub for three international airlines, including Qantas and the largest of the Virgin-branded airlines, and Melbourne-Sydney is the fourth most-travelled route in the world) or hard to plan tasks for, so there's really no excuse at all to be doing Sydney again, to be honest.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redwings8831 on November 22, 2010, 12:45:00 AM
Oooo ohk just got this info from a friend of mine whose currently at Pyrmont Bridge:
Ok their clue is to find a sculpture called to sail to stop. The guy they asked on the bridge didn't know. He saw six teams. After this they have to get on a plane to the outback.
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Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 22, 2010, 12:46:17 AM
Should we really believe this?....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 22, 2010, 12:47:15 AM
No to bunching, please. :'( I hope it's false.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 22, 2010, 12:54:54 AM
Ayers Rock maybe???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 22, 2010, 01:00:50 AM
Non-elimination, or Intersection. We can't have both.

Oh God I hope for Ayers Rock! Send them somewhere without a billion tweets so I can rest a little bit! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: north09 on November 22, 2010, 01:01:11 AM
Logicly, why would they plan all these tasks in Sydney only to randomly send them on a plane to the outback? I say it's fake.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 22, 2010, 01:02:09 AM
Can't believe the detail of the information that everyone has uncovered! Certainly seems to be making it easier to spot racers if they have raced before (or if they are 7-foot Globetrotters). :groan:

To think that the racers are only 10-20km away from here is pretty cool! :tup:

Keep up the great work everyone at RFF :hearts: , and Gary & Mallory FTW! :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 22, 2010, 01:04:56 AM
Hmm, Outback Australia is nice. :tup: The Uluru Rock would rock too (equivalent to the world-famous Stonehenge visit in S17). :hearts: But I hope it's on Leg 2, not here on Leg 1. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redwings8831 on November 22, 2010, 01:07:03 AM
Hmm, Outback Australia is nice. :tup: The Uluru Rock would rock too (equivalent to the world-famous Stonehenge visit in S17). :hearts: But I hope it's on Leg 2, not here on Leg 1. :groan:

Well, with having a TBC on Leg 1, I doubt Leg 2 will be Australia.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 22, 2010, 01:17:12 AM
WOW! I am soooo impressed/scared that I correctly predicted a Qantas delay?!?! hahaha
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 22, 2010, 01:17:57 AM
If we're going to the Outback, I suggest everyone take a break for tonight and come back same time tomorrow!

Flights leaving right now will not make it in by sunset, and Phil does need some time to film his new stand-ups!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 22, 2010, 01:19:45 AM
saintpita believes teams are still there atm...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redwings8831 on November 22, 2010, 01:21:27 AM
saintpita believes teams are still there atm...

He was also the one who said they were going to the Outback after "sail to stop" so I don't know.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 22, 2010, 01:33:14 AM
Kevin and Michael couldn't be on the race...could they?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 22, 2010, 01:46:18 AM
Sounds like a clue to head to the bridge, then to Town Hall Square (where "To Sail To Stop" is), where they pick up a flight time (there's a pun in there somewhere) for the next day...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 22, 2010, 01:47:42 AM
With Jet and Cord still last...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 22, 2010, 01:56:21 AM
Sounds like a clue to head to the bridge, then to Town Hall Square (where "To Sail To Stop" is), where they pick up a flight time (there's a pun in there somewhere) for the next day...

Heres hoping that Kynt and Vyxin push ahead :D
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Chateau d If on November 22, 2010, 02:29:22 AM
Can we have a Pit Stop already ?   :(

Time to sleep.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 22, 2010, 02:30:03 AM
Oh, gosh. Are you following them?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 22, 2010, 02:31:58 AM
The question is, why are teams camping out at the Town Hall?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 22, 2010, 02:34:04 AM
Is it open? Or could they have to wait a certain amount of time before they can go do their next task?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ovalorange on November 22, 2010, 02:36:10 AM
In the video with Gary/mallory and Ron/Chris, Mallory can be seen holding a large rectangular thing. I think Chris may have the same thing too. Anyone got any idea what it could be?

(http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k515/ovalorange/Untitled2.png?t=1290414826)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: rodcub on November 22, 2010, 03:17:21 AM
So the racers are in Sydney right now.

I have it on pretty good authority that some crew from Seven and an American network were in Melbourne last week, seemingly measuring timings for getting from Southern Cross Station to Southbank.

Southern Cross Station would be the logical point of arrival for any person who is coming in from Tullamarine Airport, Melbourne.  The Skybus service terminates at Southern Cross Station.

The big things over near Southbank side are Crown, Eureka Skydeck and the Arts Centre.

If the racers are in Sydney tonight and getting accommodations (as one of my friends has told me), it could be an early morning leg to Melbourne for racing tomorrow.

Maybe we will see the red and yellow flags out tomorrow around Melbourne?  This is a reasonable assumption given that Melbourne (Australia's second biggest city) has not yet featured on any of the 17 seasons of the show.

If I were a betting man, I think I'd be on some very good money tomorrow.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ovalorange on November 22, 2010, 04:32:23 AM
Seeing as Jet and Cord haven't turned up at Town Hall, do you think they could have been eliminated at the midway point?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Snowy on November 22, 2010, 04:39:21 AM
Seeing as Jet and Cord haven't turned up at Town Hall, do you think they could have been eliminated at the midway point?

A friend just had a chat to Jet and Cord at Town Hall about 10 minutes ago; said the country was beautiful. I was at the midway point earlier today and saw them arrive, take the clue off Phil and run off again, so they're definitely still in the race!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ovalorange on November 22, 2010, 06:17:41 AM
Seeing as Jet and Cord haven't turned up at Town Hall, do you think they could have been eliminated at the midway point?

A friend just had a chat to Jet and Cord at Town Hall about 10 minutes ago; said the country was beautiful. I was at the midway point earlier today and saw them arrive, take the clue off Phil and run off again, so they're definitely still in the race!

Fantastic! :jumpy:

On another note, the circular metal thing on the ledge next to Kris (and waterbottles) - could that possibly be the clue teams had at one stage? Teams were reportedly seen with a metallic spherical object right?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 22, 2010, 06:30:13 AM
I'm sorry for bringing this to the table, but what if?

The intended Leg 1 of the race has a true pitstop at Shelley Beach. However, due to certain circumstances (perhaps flight mishap), the race minds have decided to merge Leg 2 with Leg 1 and put a TBC Faux Mat in the middle (Fake pitstops usually don't have a greeter and a signboard on it, but this leg has one). Leg 2 is actually the remaining locations in Sydney that will eventually lead them to a flight sign-up or something to the Outback.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 22, 2010, 06:31:46 AM
Is there going to be a midway point on each leg? I thought they usually have the connected legs at the end, or whatever. Someone mind explaining? I'm confused...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jerseydude on November 22, 2010, 07:08:41 AM
I'm sorry for bringing this to the table, but what if?

The intended Leg 1 of the race has a true pitstop at Shelley Beach. However, due to certain circumstances (perhaps flight mishap), the race minds have decided to merge Leg 2 with Leg 1 and put a TBC Faux Mat in the middle (Fake pitstops usually don't have a greeter and a signboard on it, but this leg has one). Leg 2 is actually the remaining locations in Sydney that will eventually lead them to a flight sign-up or something to the Outback.


It is possible but doubtful. The delayed flight QF12 was only late for about 2-3 hours, which wouldn't have made a major difference to planning. Also, the Shark Tank from the Manly Oceanworld was fully booked today, meaning that WRP planned for the racers to arrive and do the tasks today.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: The Queen V on November 22, 2010, 07:19:30 AM
I'm sorry for bringing this to the table, but what if?

The intended Leg 1 of the race has a true pitstop at Shelley Beach. However, due to certain circumstances (perhaps flight mishap), the race minds have decided to merge Leg 2 with Leg 1 and put a TBC Faux Mat in the middle (Fake pitstops usually don't have a greeter and a signboard on it, but this leg has one). Leg 2 is actually the remaining locations in Sydney that will eventually lead them to a flight sign-up or something to the Outback.


It is possible but doubtful. The delayed flight QF12 was only late for about 2-3 hours, which wouldn't have made a major difference to planning. Also, the Shark Tank from the Manly Oceanworld was fully booked today, meaning that WRP planned for the racers to arrive and do the tasks today.


i think its a pitstop - at least leg 1 is, they just made it a pitstop with zero rest hours and a non elimination because of the flights for leg 2. in that way they could show 2 legs in a 2 hour premiere episode.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 22, 2010, 07:20:10 AM
I'm sorry for bringing this to the table, but what if?

The intended Leg 1 of the race has a true pitstop at Shelley Beach. However, due to certain circumstances (perhaps flight mishap), the race minds have decided to merge Leg 2 with Leg 1 and put a TBC Faux Mat in the middle (Fake pitstops usually don't have a greeter and a signboard on it, but this leg has one). Leg 2 is actually the remaining locations in Sydney that will eventually lead them to a flight sign-up or something to the Outback.


It is possible but doubtful. The delayed flight QF12 was only late for about 2-3 hours, which wouldn't have made a major difference to planning. Also, the Shark Tank from the Manly Oceanworld was fully booked today, meaning that WRP planned for the racers to arrive and do the tasks today.


... or saving a favo team? I hope not. :groan: :lol: (Don't hail me, people! :lol:)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 22, 2010, 07:25:00 AM

If I were a betting man, I think I'd be on some very good money tomorrow.

Dont bet.....you will lose......they are going to Broken Hill on charter flights
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 22, 2010, 07:26:28 AM
Well according to the woman on the plane,

Kisha and Jen,Gary and Mallory,Amanda and Kris were all on the later flight that was originally intended to arrive in Sydney AFTER the other 8 teams.. but due to the plane having to land in Honolulu. The team with 8 teams ended up falling behind the other one.

I know that's something that the production team doesn't really have control over, but maybe they didn't think it was fair to eliminate someone that may have been able to stay in. Especially in the 1st episode of an "AllStar" season

Although I'm sure Jet and Cord would have been eliminated either way.. They were SO far behind.. I wonder what happened

Would it be possible that eliminated teams continue to run in the race as decoys?

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 22, 2010, 07:33:47 AM
That is a possibility, but I don't think they will do it for so long, as they still have to do elimination station.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 22, 2010, 07:42:11 AM
In that picture that was posted, I almost made a mistake of thinking Amanda and Kris were Jeff and Jordan! haha
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 22, 2010, 07:48:06 AM
I think this has to be considered a TBC leg, check out Phil's pocket stash. Way to break in the all stars!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jerseydude on November 22, 2010, 08:10:21 AM
I think this has to be considered a TBC leg, check out Phil's pocket stash. Way to break in the all stars!

This by far is the most spoiled leg in history and means there probably will be never another first leg in Sydney.

Anyhow, if they are going to the outback is it where Survivor was in that area?


Totally different area. Survivor Australian Outback was filmed at Goshen Station, Queensland. The next leg is Broken Hill, NSW.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 22, 2010, 09:31:23 AM
I wonder if the teams themselves know that they are going to Broken Hill? (If TPTB pulls a "mystery destination" on them...) :lol:

They should really constantly check RFF to figure out where they're going next!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ltvols on November 22, 2010, 10:25:25 AM
couple of questions.....  if the flights to broken hill leave at 6ish am, we should expect them to be on the move in about 3 hours right?  Also, after looking up broken hill, it seems it's most known for mining.  could we have a mining roadblock? 
 
"[broken hill]  Australia's largest mining concern BHP Billiton has its origins here with the initials BHP standing for "Broken Hill Proprietary". The mining industry has declined in recent years however it still plays an important part in the story of the town with many tourist attractions associated with mining. The other main reason to visit Broken Hill is for the artists who have called the city home. There are many galleries around the city that are worth visiting."  (source wiki)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on November 22, 2010, 10:25:52 AM
I wonder if the teams themselves know that they are going to Broken Hill? (If TPTB pulls a "mystery destination" on them...) :lol:

They should really constantly check RFF to figure out where they're going next!

I wonder if Luke actually does that. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 22, 2010, 12:01:06 PM
Looking through my copy of Lonely Planet. Looks like some of these might be in order:
Broken Hill Base, working Royal Flying Doctor Service base
School of the Air, where "tourists are expected to be at the School by 8.15am"
Golf or underground mines (Delprat's Mine or Daydream Mine), as in TAR 2
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on November 22, 2010, 12:44:45 PM
Where do you get all this info from????

Anyway, thanks for all the new info and pics.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redwings8831 on November 22, 2010, 01:10:10 PM
So the first charter leaves in about 50 minutes. I saw a list of teams on each charter (I think in the timeline thread) but was wondering if that has been confirmed by anyone?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 22, 2010, 01:11:02 PM
The first charter leaves now...It's 6:10 over there...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redwings8831 on November 22, 2010, 01:12:07 PM
The first charter leaves now...It's 6:10 over there...

Yeah, I was off an hour.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 22, 2010, 01:12:47 PM
I'm sure peach has contacts in Broken Hill, or perhaps I'm hoping a bit much  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redwings8831 on November 22, 2010, 01:13:23 PM
Here is the info that was in the timeline thread. I assume it has been confirmed somewhere.

ZL 9578 to Broken Hill, 0605-0755
LaKisha/Jennifer, Mel/Mike, Jaime/Cara, Margie/Luke, Zev/Justin, Kynt/Vyxsin
ZL 9596 to Broken Hill, 0630-0820
Herbert/Nathaniel, Ronald/Christina, Gary/Mallory, Amanda/Kris, Jet/Cord
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Post by: Prophet on November 22, 2010, 01:16:41 PM
Here is the info that was in the timeline thread. I assume it has been confirmed somewhere.

ZL 9578 to Broken Hill, 0605-0755
LaKisha/Jennifer, Mel/Mike, Jaime/Cara, Margie/Luke, Zev/Justin, Kynt/Vyxsin
ZL 9596 to Broken Hill, 0630-0820
Herbert/Nathaniel, Ronald/Christina, Gary/Mallory, Amanda/Kris, Jet/Cord

This doesn't quite match up with the reported finishing order of the first leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 22, 2010, 01:17:30 PM
Hmm I'm wondering how A/K,G/M,R/C all fell behind. Possibly because of what someone else said. They were searching Pyrmont bridge instead of the Town Hall.. Not sure about A/K though

K/V prolly caught up because they had their Sydney Tourism book! And knew where to find the statue
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 22, 2010, 01:18:50 PM
Here is the info that was in the timeline thread. I assume it has been confirmed somewhere.

ZL 9578 to Broken Hill, 0605-0755
LaKisha/Jennifer, Mel/Mike, Jaime/Cara, Margie/Luke, Zev/Justin, Kynt/Vyxsin
ZL 9596 to Broken Hill, 0630-0820
Herbert/Nathaniel, Ronald/Christina, Gary/Mallory, Amanda/Kris, Jet/Cord

This doesn't quite match up with the reported finishing order of the first leg.

At the pitstop that started the 2nd leg(it was a TBC) the teams had a clue to go back in town and find a statue "to sail to stop" some teams probably got lost.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 22, 2010, 01:28:32 PM

At the pitstop that started the 2nd leg(it was a TBC) the teams had a clue to go back in town and find a statue "to sail to stop" some teams probably got lost.

Forgot about that part.

G/M, A/K, and FT/BE crossed over to the second half because of this. That helped M/L, M/M, and K/V cross over to the first half.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 22, 2010, 02:21:53 PM
hahah.. here's to hoping some fans hoping to spoil us, hopped onto the next available charter<3
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 22, 2010, 02:25:35 PM
hahah.. here's to hoping some fans hoping to spoil us, hopped onto the next available charter<3

That would be ZL862 which leaves in about 2 1/2 hours.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 22, 2010, 02:30:38 PM
We may not have ridiculous amounts of spoilers for the Broken Hill part of the leg, but whether the pit stop is there or not..

They can't teleport to their next destination.. X_X

So fans might be able to spot them at airports waiting to leave. And that might clue us in on where they are heading next right?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 22, 2010, 03:13:56 PM
From all reports, PYRMONT Bridge was NOT easy to find...taxi drivers apparently didn't have a clue.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: RichInSydney on November 22, 2010, 03:28:54 PM
From all reports, PYRMONT Bridge was NOT easy to find...taxi drivers apparently didn't have a clue.
Well its in Darling Harbour, no cars can go there. Its a foot bridge.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 22, 2010, 03:29:59 PM
I found a discussion of the Amazing Race being in Sydney on a discussion board for Sydney airport. The thread is at http://www.yssyforum.net/board/showthread.php?t=6143 (http://www.yssyforum.net/board/showthread.php?t=6143). There's not much new here so I didn't put it in the Live Sightings thread. Most of their information seemed to come from here and a couple of the people posting there may have been from here looking for information. The main new tidbit I saw was someone who works at Sydney airport saying they helped out a film crew from Los Angeles on Saturday (3 days ago) that was trying to film plane arrivals for QANTAS (so they claimed). He said they didn't seem to know how to go about finding good locations, which he thought was strange.

One amusing comment from someone with connections to the Sydney airport was joking about rerouting TAR's baggage to Perth. I guess he didn't know that the racers don't have checked baggage.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 22, 2010, 03:30:39 PM
Hmm, just wondering. If Kynt/Vyxsin knew that they were drawing times for the Outback while on the ferry on Manly back to Downtown Sydney, why do we have teams at the Pyrmont Bridge? Was it a case of "find To Sail To Stop near Pyrmont Bridge"?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Chateau d If on November 22, 2010, 03:31:48 PM
From what i could tell with GE, Pyrmont is basically a large neighborhood mostly surrounded by water.  There are bridges going to/through it but those are freeways.  And there is this long skinny thing that has the metro running on top and pedestrians on the lower level.  That thing is the Pyrmont Bridge. 

That could explain why taxi drivers would not be familiar with it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 22, 2010, 03:36:36 PM
R/C and G/M

prolly didnt know where the To Stop To Sail statue was... so they tried there after locals might have pointed them in that direction?

Im sure the clue didn't say exactally where it was..

or they got lost
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: RichInSydney on November 22, 2010, 04:11:36 PM
One of the Rex charter flights is coming back to Sydney, this will most likely to be empty. The other will likely be used on a scheduled flight.

I cannot find any more charter flights from Broken Hill either today or tomorrow. Rex are the only airline that flies to Broken Hill to Sydney, Adelaide and Dubbo (another regional town).

Therefore, unless they go on one of the limited scheduled flights, I cannot see them using Broken Hill airport again, so maybe a long self drive in a car or a train to their next destination.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: GabrielP on November 22, 2010, 04:14:11 PM
Did Gary & Mallory win the EXPRESS PASS or not?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 22, 2010, 04:35:11 PM
Did Gary & Mallory win the EXPRESS PASS or not?


I think they did :DDDD
They arrived at the Pstop first so probz
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 22, 2010, 04:41:48 PM
All teams should definitely be racing around Broken Hill area by now.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: KingCrimson88 on November 22, 2010, 04:51:05 PM
Did Gary & Mallory win the EXPRESS PASS or not?

Well they usually don't give out prizes on TBC legs.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: sydneyspotter on November 22, 2010, 05:02:35 PM
The main new tidbit I saw was someone who works at Sydney airport saying they helped out a film crew from Los Angeles on Saturday (3 days ago) that was trying to film plane arrivals for QANTAS (so they claimed). He said they didn't seem to know how to go about finding good locations, which he thought was strange.

Hi,
Just think i'll add to this a little since you guys found this thread. This was actually me who met these guys. First of all, I don't work at Sydney Airport, Im just a keen aviation photographer.
Purely from an Aviation point of view,if you were working and doing a shoot for Qantas, surely they would have told the guys where the best spots were. There were 3 guys together, 2 Americans and an Aussie - The aussie guy was driving. The claim that they were looking for good landing and departing shots, but then saw them filming pretty much anything that came in - Qantas/Jetstar/Virgin Blue and Internationals.
The vehicle also had some cards and id's on which were a tad strange for just a crew filming for Qantas, and that they had no approval to be on airport premesis... Just didn't add up!

Sydney Spotter
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 22, 2010, 06:27:40 PM
Looking through my copy of Lonely Planet. Looks like some of these might be in order:
Broken Hill Base, working Royal Flying Doctor Service base
School of the Air, where "tourists are expected to be at the School by 8.15am"
Golf or underground mines (Delprat's Mine or Daydream Mine), as in TAR 2

Broken Hill Base doesn't look like it's going to happen.
Delprat's Mine is apparently closed (permanently).
But Daydream Mine is looking pretty promising!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 22, 2010, 06:28:50 PM
How's that lead in Broken Hill going Neobie, any luck
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: slayton on November 22, 2010, 06:30:09 PM
teams came past of front of SCHOOL OF ROCK.

Gray and Mallory in the lead at 1255.

Whether it's deliberate or coincidental, I think it's cool that teams pass by a place with the same name as the movie that Mike wrote.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 22, 2010, 06:43:05 PM
Did the cowboys get out?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 22, 2010, 07:04:32 PM
The main new tidbit I saw was someone who works at Sydney airport saying they helped out a film crew from Los Angeles on Saturday (3 days ago) that was trying to film plane arrivals for QANTAS (so they claimed). He said they didn't seem to know how to go about finding good locations, which he thought was strange.

Hi,
Just think i'll add to this a little since you guys found this thread. This was actually me who met these guys. First of all, I don't work at Sydney Airport, Im just a keen aviation photographer.
Purely from an Aviation point of view,if you were working and doing a shoot for Qantas, surely they would have told the guys where the best spots were. There were 3 guys together, 2 Americans and an Aussie - The aussie guy was driving. The claim that they were looking for good landing and departing shots, but then saw them filming pretty much anything that came in - Qantas/Jetstar/Virgin Blue and Internationals.
The vehicle also had some cards and id's on which were a tad strange for just a crew filming for Qantas, and that they had no approval to be on airport premesis... Just didn't add up!

Sydney Spotter

Thanks for the follow up. It certainly does sound like the Amazing Race cameramen. I'm slightly surprised they didn't ask for permission to film but I guess keeping the race a secret won out. They probably just figured they needed 10 second clips of take offs and landings so it didn't have to be the perfect shot.

I seem to have ruffled a few feathers with my comment about the joke about sending the bags to Perth. I'm not going to register over on that forum just to reply, but you can tell them that I took it as a joke and chuckled. It would have been a funny prank to play on the TAR production crew (they probably wouldn't have found it funny), but I knew it wasn't serious.

Plaidmoon
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 22, 2010, 07:15:43 PM
FACEBOOK:


Saw contestants from the Amazing Race HOPPING down Gypsum Street dressed as KANGAROOS a little while ago...wish I could've joined them! Anyone else seen anything unusual today? xx Tali
2 minutes ago

is this legit?

If true, I want to cry. So much fail. (Poster seems legit.)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 22, 2010, 07:16:19 PM
One of the Rex charter flights is coming back to Sydney, this will most likely to be empty. The other will likely be used on a scheduled flight.

I cannot find any more charter flights from Broken Hill either today or tomorrow. Rex are the only airline that flies to Broken Hill to Sydney, Adelaide and Dubbo (another regional town).

Therefore, unless they go on one of the limited scheduled flights, I cannot see them using Broken Hill airport again, so maybe a long self drive in a car or a train to their next destination.

Adelaide is the closest large city.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redwings8831 on November 22, 2010, 07:20:22 PM
FACEBOOK:


Saw contestants from the Amazing Race HOPPING down Gypsum Street dressed as KANGAROOS a little while ago...wish I could've joined them! Anyone else seen anything unusual today? xx Tali
2 minutes ago

is this legit?

If true, I want to cry. So much fail. (Poster seems legit.)

And now we know why there are no TAR 13 teams on this race. The producers didn't them embargoes them again after they had to run through Kazakhstan as cows.  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 22, 2010, 10:00:28 PM
Oh my, if they are hopping, then Ronald's Hernia... ouch. :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 22, 2010, 11:12:55 PM
The first post of the Timeline and the LIVE tweets are a good place to start when you need to catch up!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin88 on November 22, 2010, 11:52:29 PM
Please tell me, there hasn't been any sightings of the cowboys...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 22, 2010, 11:58:06 PM
Please tell me, there hasn't been any sightings of the cowboys...

There haven't been that many recent sightings and I can't remember one mentioning the cowboys. They're my favourite team lol.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 23, 2010, 12:01:27 AM
Please tell me, there hasn't been any sightings of the cowboys...

There haven't been that many recent sightings and I can't remember one mentioning the cowboys. They're my favourite team lol.

no offense...

Oh,none taken. I was just stating :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 23, 2010, 12:58:19 AM
Oddly enough, a photo was posted in the Live Sightings thread, just before this line of conversation showing Jet and Cord at the location all the teams spent overnight waiting to go take the charter flights out of Sydney; and there was a photo posted earlier showing them with Phil at the mat for the TBC clue.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: eragon on November 23, 2010, 01:09:24 AM
Could it be a Zero Hour Pitstop? Gallory winning the Express Pass and the cowboys were NELd?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 23, 2010, 03:10:07 AM
I can't see an appropriate thread for this, so:

What is a zero-hour pitstop? I mean, had we had one before? What's it's difference with TBC?

Sorry for off-topic-ness. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: chelleyau on November 23, 2010, 03:44:24 AM
(http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=461210087495&set=a.227461082495.134842.661027495&ref=nf)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 23, 2010, 03:54:52 AM
Someone in live sighting said teams completed task in broken hill and now all teams took same train back to Sydney,so pitstop still in Sydney?If so,looks like not so many tasks when they back to Sydney,maybe llike TARAS2 Japan leg,who will be last just depend on foot race?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: chelleyau on November 23, 2010, 03:59:30 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_sN_0wtVOKRQ/TOuQHEF1lOI/AAAAAAAABjk/T4L3CaLULMA/s1600/photocow.JPG)

BROKEN HILL
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 23, 2010, 04:03:21 AM
Cord!! Jet & Cord I hope you push ahead!!  :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:

Don't half-ass it xD
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: chelleyau on November 23, 2010, 04:19:21 AM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_sN_0wtVOKRQ/TOuVA467ReI/AAAAAAAABjs/qulZLsAihl0/s1600/Amazing%2BRace_017.jpg)

BROKEN HILL AUST
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 23, 2010, 04:31:45 AM

Hey Chesea, :bigwelcome

We cannot see that photo :(...if you are having trouble you can email  it to me at the address in my profile?

I am confused...are you sure about the teams leaving by train today? Someone else said they were spending the night and flying out tomorrow, and we would dearly love to know which is right. Some of the film crews/production may have left today for sure.

Sounds like you had a great day, we are SO jealous!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 23, 2010, 04:33:12 AM
Thank you for the pics, chelleyau......can you tell where they were taken please.........thanks in advance.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: chelleyau on November 23, 2010, 04:39:20 AM
Saw all teams get on TRAIN but did not see Phil get on!

The planes left this morning not long after the got in?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: eragon on November 23, 2010, 04:42:24 AM
great pics!  :hearts: So Australia leg still not done?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: chelleyau on November 23, 2010, 04:48:37 AM
I had a FANTASTIC day!!!!!! it was so surreal seen it all after watcing ALL the seasons!!!  I was sooooooooo close to meetin Phil but got shooooed away by prod crew!

I have a sore face from  :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 23, 2010, 04:50:51 AM
Well, chelleyau......glad you had a great day and thanks for the good info.

Well Peach.......12 hours and about 20 minutes till that train arrives from now.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 23, 2010, 05:31:39 AM
Saw all teams get on TRAIN but did not see Phil get on!

The planes left this morning not long after the got in?

WOw!! This is great news, thank you!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 23, 2010, 06:42:29 AM
So I am assuming an elimination in Broken Hill and another rollin pit stop.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: methylc on November 23, 2010, 08:56:12 AM
Just gotta be amazed and really thankful at the huge (and really countless) amount of spoilers just for the first leg!

I believe having Australia/Oceania as their first continent of destination is the first time ever in the history of The Amazing Race (US)? Looks like after this the production crew will be SO traumatised that it'll not happen for a LONG time.... We haven't really got so detailed information!

Once again, a huge thank you! I'll be looking forward to this season although I'm not really fond of some of the cast chosen to come back this time. But it does seem like this race may be catered to make it really tougher than usual (so far) unlike Season 11 All-Stars where the real difficulty that levelled up was the flight travels mid-race (due to the Hajj), and the race tasks weren't really more difficult than the standard race route.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: sweffilou on November 23, 2010, 10:47:16 AM
So I am assuming an elimination in Broken Hill and another rollin pit stop.


thats what i thought!!!

hi everyone   :waves:  amazing job everyone so far on figuring out whats happening in the race  :waves:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 23, 2010, 10:49:24 AM
So I am assuming an elimination in Broken Hill and another rollin pit stop.


thats what i thought!!!

hi everyone   :waves:  amazing job everyone so far on figuring out whats happening in the race  :waves:

 :bigwelcome to RFF, swef!
We don't usually get this many sightings at once, so this is fun!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 23, 2010, 10:52:25 AM
So I am assuming an elimination in Broken Hill and another rollin pit stop.
Then why all teams spotted on train ? I think they at least will separate the team who emilinated so that they should not appear with other teams.And it looks like  chelleyau  finding 11 teams on train.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 23, 2010, 10:53:58 AM
So I am assuming an elimination in Broken Hill and another rollin pit stop.
Then why all teams spotted on train ? I think they at least will separate the team who emilinated so that they should not appear with other teams.And it looks like  chelleyau  finding 11 teams on train.

How else is the eliminated team to return?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 23, 2010, 11:05:34 AM
Judging if Japan is not the next stop, Tokyo could be very well a transit point to other places in East Asia/North Pacific.  The Russian Far East, Micronesia, and Palau seem very possible to fly out from Narita.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: sweffilou on November 23, 2010, 11:06:27 AM
So I am assuming an elimination in Broken Hill and another rollin pit stop.
Then why all teams spotted on train ? I think they at least will separate the team who emilinated so that they should not appear with other teams.And it looks like  chelleyau  finding 11 teams on train.

mind you we'd be able to tell the team that was eliminated pretty easily though if they werent on the train - hmmm  :duno:

could there be any kind of possibility of a similar letter sorting task from the first allstars task - as i actually found that task quite interesting with the racers getting letters from some of the teams from there original season - although with that many season 14 teams on the race how would they do it????? :duno:
 
thanks for the welcome
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 23, 2010, 11:31:18 AM
Since the Sydney segment of the first leg was the first half of a TBC, it's entirely possible that if Broken Hill was the end of the leg, it was still an NEL. It would be something we haven't seen before, but there's nothing in the apparent game rules preventing an uberleg from being an NEL.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 23, 2010, 11:32:37 AM
I think they will go to Japan next,they go there every 3 season(S9,S12,S15-S18?).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: E-K-ISR on November 23, 2010, 12:10:54 PM
who decides which countries they're going to? Why there were 17 seasons without visiting Israel??? The all-stars season is the perfect time to come to Israel and as a big fan of the show it's really annoying and very disrespectful to skip Israel each and every time.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 23, 2010, 02:11:19 PM
One wouldn't think there is a pattern to when they go to a certain country but it does seem that they will go there again this season.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: krabbe on November 23, 2010, 02:40:21 PM
who decides which countries they're going to? Why there were 17 seasons without visiting Israel??? The all-stars season is the perfect time to come to Israel and as a big fan of the show it's really annoying and very disrespectful to skip Israel each and every time.

If I'm not mistaken it's still in the travel warning list, so insurance won't cover them.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on November 23, 2010, 03:26:17 PM
Scotland seems like a good place to go to. Does anyone remember the last time TAR went there?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 23, 2010, 03:26:51 PM
Scotland seems like a good place to go to. Does anyone remember the last time TAR went there?

I can't.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on November 23, 2010, 03:30:55 PM
I would enjoy seeing them visit Scotland and Ireland instead of visiting Russia and Germany almost every season.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 23, 2010, 03:31:46 PM
I would enjoy seeing them visit Scotland and Ireland instead of visiting Russia and Germany almost every season.

Perhaps.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: sweffilou on November 23, 2010, 04:18:34 PM
I would enjoy seeing them visit Scotland and Ireland instead of visiting Russia and Germany almost every season.

Perhaps.

or Wales as they havent been there yet
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 23, 2010, 05:19:34 PM
Scotland seems like a good place to go to. Does anyone remember the last time TAR went there?

Gosh. I wish! If they came to Scotland (especially Glasgow) I would follow them as much as I could. I can't drive though and I bet if they came here they would have to drive everywhere.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 23, 2010, 05:21:21 PM
They will be in Europe this season apparently...so maybe...just maybe...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: slayton on November 23, 2010, 05:30:33 PM
From the amount of time they were on their previous race, Amanda and Kris appeared to me to be a very competent, capable team. The Blind U-Turn did them no favors, because while they did that other detour task as efficiently as they could, there was no way they were going to be able to luck out and avoid elimination.
I think we'll find that they are still a competent, capable team this time around. I think overall, this is actually a more competent cast than TAR 11, even though there are no winners on it; I have to go back and check how many final three teams were on All-Stars versus this season.

TAR18 vs. TAR11 (sorted by initial season placement; info from wikipedia)
=======================
(2nd) Ronald & Christina
(2nd) Jaime & Cara
(2nd) Jet & Cord
(3rd) Margie & Luke
(4th) Kisha & Jen
(4th) Herbert & Nathaniel
(5th) Kynt & Vyxsin
(6th) Mel & Mike
(6th) Gary & Mallory
(8th) Amanda & Kris
(9th) Zev & Justin

(1st) Uchenna & Joyce
(2nd) Teri & Ian
(2nd) Rob & Amber
(2nd) Eric
(3rd) Joe & Bill
(4th) Kevin & Drew
(4th) Oswald & Danny
(4th) Dustin & Kandice
(5th) John Vito & Jill
(6th) Charla & Mirna
(6th) David & Mary
(8th) Danielle
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 23, 2010, 05:50:10 PM
Per DrRox, it does sound like a rolling Pit Stop as we thought, eh? It depends on whether teams are being filmed in Sydney Terminal...

I'll go look at flights for a little while. Having teams pre-booked on one single flight looks strange to me.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: slayton on November 23, 2010, 05:54:27 PM
The Cartoon Network is showing "The School of Rock" right now, 630PM-9PM Eastern Time, for those of you who haven't seen one of Mike White's movies.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 23, 2010, 06:45:03 PM
Per DrRox, it does sound like a rolling Pit Stop as we thought, eh? It depends on whether teams are being filmed in Sydney Terminal...

I'll go look at flights for a little while. Having teams pre-booked on one single flight looks strange to me.

I think something along the lines of Hamburg to France in TAR 16.....not like the Cai Be moving pit stop in TAR 15.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 23, 2010, 06:53:40 PM
From the amount of time they were on their previous race, Amanda and Kris appeared to me to be a very competent, capable team. The Blind U-Turn did them no favors, because while they did that other detour task as efficiently as they could, there was no way they were going to be able to luck out and avoid elimination.
I think we'll find that they are still a competent, capable team this time around. I think overall, this is actually a more competent cast than TAR 11, even though there are no winners on it; I have to go back and check how many final three teams were on All-Stars versus this season.

TAR18 vs. TAR11 (sorted by initial season placement; info from wikipedia)
=======================
(2nd) Ronald & Christina
(2nd) Jaime & Cara
(2nd) Jet & Cord
(3rd) Margie & Luke
(4th) Kisha & Jen
(4th) Herbert & Nathaniel
(5th) Kynt & Vyxsin
(6th) Mel & Mike
(6th) Gary & Mallory
(8th) Amanda & Kris
(9th) Zev & Justin

(1st) Uchenna & Joyce
(2nd) Teri & Ian
(2nd) Rob & Amber
(2nd) Eric
(3rd) Joe & Bill
(4th) Kevin & Drew
(4th) Oswald & Danny
(4th) Dustin & Kandice
(5th) John Vito & Jill
(6th) Charla & Mirna
(6th) David & Mary
(8th) Danielle


lol-
Average placing of All star 11 competitors- 3.91

Average placing of All star 18 competitors- 4.63

lmao thats quite a big difference

and wow, no 7th placers in either season but 2 8ths and 1 9th
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 23, 2010, 07:36:38 PM

Average placing of All star 18 competitors- 4.63


My question is......why are you calling this an All Star season.......CBS hasn't called it that. You obviously have found the difference in team rankings.........

Around here most have tried to say with what we heard a long time ago.....it was going to be a 2nd Chance Redemption season, made up of teams that had something to proove the 2nd time around..........thats what it looks like to me anyway.....not a single season winner in the bunch.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 23, 2010, 07:41:40 PM
Neobie.......

It really does make sense to have teams on both flight plans.........with a scheduled 15 difference minutes in arrival time......they will all basically run out of Narita.....or take the train of of Narita at same time. I thought maybe they might send crew on the earlier flight....but since they get there at basically the same time......that doesnt make much sense.....lol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 23, 2010, 08:11:02 PM
My friend told me the teams she saw on train station

Which train station...the arriving teams or the departing teams on the train to the airport?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 23, 2010, 08:27:22 PM
So, the first leg was in Australia and the second one is probably in Japan. Maybe since TAR18 is HD they'll stick to "first world" countries to avoid risking the equipment? ???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kwando1313 on November 23, 2010, 08:30:19 PM
Hopefully not. That would be... really boring.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 23, 2010, 08:33:12 PM
Hopefully not. That would be... really boring.

unless you are the owner of the equip
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gsrqh on November 23, 2010, 08:36:08 PM
Hopefully not. That would be... really boring.

unless you are the owner of the equip

 :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: rodcub on November 23, 2010, 08:52:36 PM
So, the first leg was in Australia and the second one is probably in Japan. Maybe since TAR18 is HD they'll stick to "first world" countries to avoid risking the equipment? ???

According to this tweet the next stop is Japan, according to the team he helped:
@mikey_pants Photos of the Amazing Race contestants heading for the airport. Next stop, Japan http://post.ly/1ExqT
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 23, 2010, 08:56:59 PM
So, the first leg was in Australia and the second one is probably in Japan. Maybe since TAR18 is HD they'll stick to "first world" countries to avoid risking the equipment? ???

According to this tweet the next stop is Japan, according to the team he helped:
@mikey_pants Photos of the Amazing Race contestants heading for the airport. Next stop, Japan http://post.ly/1ExqT

Only if the flight is going to Japan, doesn't mean they are going there for a leg, they could be traveling to the next destination via Japan.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 23, 2010, 08:59:13 PM
So, why were Margie and Luke and Mel and Mike one of the last few teams to leave the station? Was the station the pitstart?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 23, 2010, 08:59:49 PM

Only if the flight is going to Japan, doesn't mean they are going there for a leg, they could be traveling to the next destination via Japan.

Transfering via Japan is no way direct (since S. Korea is out of the picture). For almost all other countries, I'd travel via Hong Kong.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: rodcub on November 23, 2010, 09:02:36 PM
That is not a Qantas ticket counter, it is Cathy Pacific.........Neobie strikes again......lol

It is approx 1:30pm in Sydney, plenty of time to make the 3:00 pm departure.

This tweet seems to confirm Japan.

@mikey_pants Photos of the Amazing Race contestants heading for the airport. Next stop, Japan http://post.ly/1ExqT

He apparently helped a team to the airport on the train.

We have seen teams at check in. Would you be able to checkin on a flight leaving in 8hours time??

Yes, you can... however, everyone is assuming they are on QF21 departing 2230 that gets to NRT (assuming Tokyo is next) by 0615 tomorrow.
CX via HKG to NRT leaves about 1540 gets in at 0600.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: rodcub on November 23, 2010, 09:04:04 PM
That is not a Qantas ticket counter, it is Cathy Pacific.........Neobie strikes again......lol

It is approx 1:30pm in Sydney, plenty of time to make the 3:00 pm departure.

This tweet seems to confirm Japan.

@mikey_pants Photos of the Amazing Race contestants heading for the airport. Next stop, Japan http://post.ly/1ExqT

He apparently helped a team to the airport on the train.

We have seen teams at check in. Would you be able to checkin on a flight leaving in 8hours time??

Yes, you can... however, everyone is assuming they are on QF21 departing 2230 that gets to NRT (assuming Tokyo is next) by 0615 tomorrow.
CX via HKG to NRT leaves about 1540 gets in at 0600.



And the report above that one borrowed a phone for 'flight info' to get on a 4pm flight... sounds like they are on CX100 to HKG at 1540 with a connector in HKG on to Japan.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarobbsessed24 on November 23, 2010, 09:24:45 PM
regarding the the FT and BE video with the cluebox
i heard them say make your way to the next pit stop :D
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 23, 2010, 09:25:56 PM
regarding the the FT and BE video with the cluebox
i heard them say make your way to the next pit stop :D

I have the video, will re=listen, but I did not hear that.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarobbsessed24 on November 23, 2010, 09:30:06 PM
regarding the the FT and BE video with the cluebox
i heard them say make your way to the next pit stop :D

I have the video, will re=listen, but I did not hear that.

turn ur volume up ALL the way
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 23, 2010, 09:35:43 PM
Twitter:

just helped Kynt & Vixen from the Amazing Race!! The Bounce Studebaker took them to the airport where they are now on their way to TOKYO!!
6 minutes ago via web


Wow hope that isn't a penalty...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 23, 2010, 09:56:02 PM
No Photo evidence but my source Lance (well done to him :hearts:) was on the scene at Central. Teams started the leg ripping open next clue on the Amazing Race mat at Central. Teams seen counting money etc so it must have been the start of the leg(?):

Teams in order of departure were:

1st:Zev and Justin in red shirts left at 12
2nd:Flight time and Big easy left at 12:10pm
3th:cowboy left at 12:11pm
4th:Margie and Luke # 12:12 pm
5th:Kisha and Jen 12:13 pm
[...]
looks like an epic footrace on the first leg <3
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 23, 2010, 09:58:03 PM
with Luke shoving Jen again, and Flight Time doing what they did to Sam and Dan now to the Cowboys on their way to the pitstop?

Ok, I'm hoping for R/C to survive, but at this moment, I'm gonna calm myself down so that my expectations will not crashland when I hear that the news is wrong. :o
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kwando1313 on November 23, 2010, 09:58:54 PM
No Photo evidence but my source Lance (well done to him :hearts:) was on the scene at Central. Teams started the leg ripping open next clue on the Amazing Race mat at Central. Teams seen counting money etc so it must have been the start of the leg(?):

Teams in order of departure were:

1st:Zev and Justin in red shirts left at 12
2nd:Flight time and Big easy left at 12:10pm
3th:cowboy left at 12:11pm
4th:Margie and Luke # 12:12 pm
5th:Kisha and Jen 12:13 pm
[...]
looks like an epic footrace on the first leg <3

Wow, FOUR teams arriving at the same time?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 23, 2010, 10:00:30 PM
FT & BE and Kisha & Jen: alliance or rivalry in the long run?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redwings8831 on November 23, 2010, 10:01:23 PM
No Photo evidence but my source Lance (well done to him :hearts:) was on the scene at Central. Teams started the leg ripping open next clue on the Amazing Race mat at Central. Teams seen counting money etc so it must have been the start of the leg(?):

Teams in order of departure were:

1st:Zev and Justin in red shirts left at 12
2nd:Flight time and Big easy left at 12:10pm
3th:cowboy left at 12:11pm
4th:Margie and Luke # 12:12 pm
5th:Kisha and Jen 12:13 pm
[...]
looks like an epic footrace on the first leg <3

So the train back to Sydney was during the pitstop (like the bus in Germany/France in TAR 16)?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on November 23, 2010, 10:05:05 PM
Somewhere Amanda and Kris were seen.
No pics to prove that.

yes i know, but there are also no pics to prove Ron/Chris were there either.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TeamKandA on November 23, 2010, 10:05:40 PM
Has anyone been able to confirm teams eliminated ? Please don't tell me Amanda and kris have been eliminated. Is it only speculation at this point ?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 23, 2010, 10:06:41 PM
Has anyone been able to confirm teams eliminated ? Please don't tell me Amanda and kris have been eliminated. Is it only speculation at this point ?

There appear to be reports from two diff. sources that confirm the rankings of the last leg, so I'm guessing 30% chance A/K are still in.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on November 23, 2010, 10:16:23 PM
im kinda of new but can you guys please tell me when did the flight leave and land to tokoyo thanks :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 23, 2010, 10:18:13 PM
Are you in Tokyo?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 23, 2010, 10:21:25 PM
I think they won't race in Tokyo,they may fly to Tokyo then fly to other city in Japan.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 23, 2010, 10:24:19 PM
I think they won't race in Tokyo,they may fly to Tokyo then fly to other city in Japan.

I find that very unlikely.......if it was true.....all the different teams wouldnt be telling all these "street people" they needed to go to Toyko..........they would mention that other mysterious city
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 23, 2010, 10:27:51 PM
Maybe find a clue in Tokyo,then take shinkansen to other city?They had Tokyo leg in S15,I think they will change city...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 23, 2010, 10:29:07 PM
Maybe find a clue in Tokyo,then take shinkansen to other city?They had Tokyo leg in S15,I think they will change city...

it seems likely to me too
Nagano?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 23, 2010, 10:32:04 PM
Thanks to Neobie, at least 2 teams are confirmed to have taken the 3PM flight viia HK to Tokyo. Many teams may choose this option as it appears that there were still seats available.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 23, 2010, 10:34:45 PM
Maybe find a clue in Tokyo,then take shinkansen to other city?They had Tokyo leg in S15,I think they will change city...

Well this is certainly more possible than them flying to another city.......if they were flying, they would have bought tickets to the other city....the train is a great spec
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dojima on November 23, 2010, 10:40:38 PM
If they are taking the train from Tokyo, I'm willing to bet Kyoto would be high on the list.

I use to live in Tokyo and my cousin's there near Narita. I'm going to try my best to convince him to go to the airport and spot teams for me, even though he doesn't watch the show.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 23, 2010, 10:46:47 PM
If they are taking the train from Tokyo, I'm willing to bet Kyoto would be high on the list.

I use to live in Tokyo and my cousin's there near Narita. I'm going to try my best to convince him to go to the airport and spot teams for me, even though he doesn't watch the show.  :lol:

I would love to see Kyoto too!
The problem is that they would've flown in via Osaka to get there, not Tokyo.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dojima on November 23, 2010, 10:51:10 PM
If they are taking the train from Tokyo, I'm willing to bet Kyoto would be high on the list.

I use to live in Tokyo and my cousin's there near Narita. I'm going to try my best to convince him to go to the airport and spot teams for me, even though he doesn't watch the show.  :lol:

I would love to see Kyoto too!
The problem is that they would've flown in via Osaka to get there, not Tokyo.

True, but then again, Tokyo is filled with countless possible towns and tourist attractions nearby. Kamakura, Nagano, Nikko, Hakone, the list goes on. Who knows if they'll stay in Tokyo or not.  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 23, 2010, 10:51:55 PM
Maybe find a clue in Tokyo,then take shinkansen to other city?They had Tokyo leg in S15,I think they will change city...

it seems likely to me too
Nagano?

I agree with you...Nagano is very possible...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 23, 2010, 10:53:13 PM
If they are taking the train from Tokyo, I'm willing to bet Kyoto would be high on the list.

I use to live in Tokyo and my cousin's there near Narita. I'm going to try my best to convince him to go to the airport and spot teams for me, even though he doesn't watch the show.  :lol:

If you can get him to go.......he needs to be out there for a 0600 Cathy Pacific flight and a 0615 Qantas flight.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 23, 2010, 10:59:48 PM
It doesn't make sense to me for the Race to go back to Tokyo so soon (TAR 15) and not to another city elsewhere in Japan. I can see the teams flying into Tokyo and then taking transport to another part of Japan, though. (TAR 3 did this in England)  I also find it interesting that the eyewitnesses in Sydney only heard mention of "Japan" and not "Tokyo."
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dojima on November 23, 2010, 11:00:22 PM
If they are taking the train from Tokyo, I'm willing to bet Kyoto would be high on the list.

I use to live in Tokyo and my cousin's there near Narita. I'm going to try my best to convince him to go to the airport and spot teams for me, even though he doesn't watch the show.  :lol:

If you can get him to go.......he needs to be out there for a 0600 Cathy Pacific flight and a 0615 Qantas flight.

Just sent him an message on facebook. Crossing my fingers he'll do it, despite how early it is.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 23, 2010, 11:03:37 PM
If they are taking the train from Tokyo, I'm willing to bet Kyoto would be high on the list.

I use to live in Tokyo and my cousin's there near Narita. I'm going to try my best to convince him to go to the airport and spot teams for me, even though he doesn't watch the show.  :lol:

If you can get him to go.......he needs to be out there for a 0600 Cathy Pacific flight and a 0615 Qantas flight.

Just sent him an message on facebook. Crossing my fingers he'll do it, despite how early it is.  :lol:


If he speaks english....that would really be a plus......a team would "adopt" him for directions...lol

About 16 hours to touchdown....bedtime for me.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dojima on November 23, 2010, 11:06:26 PM
He grew up in the states, so he knows both English and Japanese. I'm sure Ron/Christina should be okay with language so I'll make sure he helps out Kynt/Vyxsin and Gallory.  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on November 23, 2010, 11:11:05 PM
If they are indeed going into Tokyo City, they might fly in via Tokyo-Haneda(HND) as it is closer to the city. Just a guess.  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dojima on November 23, 2010, 11:12:33 PM
If they are indeed going into Tokyo City, they might fly in via Tokyo-Haneda(HND) as it is closer to the city. Just a guess.  :duno:

Haneda has very limited international flights, so it's highly unlikely.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Chateau d If on November 23, 2010, 11:26:17 PM

Since the flight from Hong Kong and the Flight from Sydney are the first flights of the day to land at Narita Terminal 2 we can expect them to get through customs in good time.   :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 23, 2010, 11:42:35 PM
Thanks to Neobie, at least 2 teams are confirmed to have taken the 3PM flight viia HK to Tokyo. Many teams may choose this option as it appears that there were still seats available.

Which two teams?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 23, 2010, 11:44:55 PM
:duno:...generally if I know, and can say...I say. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 24, 2010, 12:05:34 AM
:duno:...generally if I know, and can say...I say. :tup:

Oh ok, thanks :) Guess we have time to sleep now before the sightings start again tomorrow.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 24, 2010, 01:12:38 AM
It's the fourth night and teams still haven't got a single good night's rest yet; they're going for full-blown killer fatigue here!

Night of 20 Nov USA, 21 Nov Australia: Overnight flight to Sydney
Night of 22 Nov: Waiting for charter planes to Broken Hill
Night of 23 Nov: Overnight train to Sydney
Night of 24 Nov: Overnight plane to Tokyo
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 24, 2010, 02:03:24 AM
It's the fourth night and teams still haven't got a single good night's rest yet; they're going for full-blown killer fatigue here!


Believe me...I feel their pain!! :updaters

 :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 24, 2010, 02:30:31 AM
It's the fourth night and teams still haven't got a single good night's rest yet; they're going for full-blown killer fatigue here!


Believe me...I feel their pain!! :updaters

 :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

Lol Peach. I'm new here and I have to say you're incredible on this board with everything you do.

I haven't seen the other 'All-stars,' season but it seems as though the consensus is that that season was just like a normal one. Maybe this time they've decided to make it harder, especially with the REALLY long first leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TeamKandA on November 24, 2010, 02:32:59 AM
I think there's a major twist here. Nothing we've seen before.  :res:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 24, 2010, 02:46:04 AM
I think there's a major twist here. Nothing we've seen before.  :res:

I think you may be right. They seem to have been trying a lot of new things lately, such as the 'Double U-Turn,' and the 'express pass.'
I hope whatever it isn't detrimental to the show. I personally wasn't thrilled by the idea of the 'express pass,' and feel that the 'double U-Turn' would have been more effective in an earlier leg with more teams.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 24, 2010, 02:51:23 AM
Really hoping that they come to Shanghai over the weekend- my dad promised me that if they did, we could stalk them :P
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 24, 2010, 02:53:54 AM
Really hoping that they come to Shanghai over the weekend- my dad promised me that if they did, we could stalk them :P
Now the route looks like China maybe will come again this season...if they come,I think maybe Hangzhou,Nanjing,very close to Shanghai...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: FLeety on November 24, 2010, 02:57:33 AM
I like the double U -turn. I also think it should be made a Quadruple U-turn. details follow.

2 teams can U-turn other teams, and if you have been u-turned, then you can also u-turn the team that u-turned you.  This means that you have to go to the U-Turn place both before and after the task.. If you are past the 2nd visit to the u-turn location, then you are safe, but if not, then you have to do the 2nd half of the U-turn.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 24, 2010, 02:57:50 AM
I might be able to get to Hangzhou... Don't get your hopes up, though. My dad was supposed to go there this week anyway...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Katsuya on November 24, 2010, 04:18:24 AM
From FB:

Just saw the amazing race all stars racing through Central Station!!! Yay Kynt and Vyxsin are back again! Also saw Gary and mallory harassed by school students haha

~43 min ago

Does this not add some confirmation to the speculated departure list, which said that Gary & Mallory were cheered on by a load of school kids (or something to that effect)?

(Oh, also, hey - first post here ^_^)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NumfarPTB on November 24, 2010, 04:40:03 AM
Would also like to point out that beside Tokyo being featured in TAR15, meaning some of the teams present would have some advantage having been there, Osaka was also featured as leg 10 in TAR12 (So Ron and Chris did race there, but Kynt and Vyxxin didn't ).

As speculation, I traveled to Okinawa a few years ago, although not a large place, still is one of the last remaining places in Asia with large presence of US bases. Considering that Guam (before the US bases were disbanded) was featured in TAR11, I wouldn't be surprised if Okinawa was now the setting for a leg in a race featuring past racers.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Benedicto on November 24, 2010, 05:55:52 AM
Considering like Charity00 confirmed that they're heavily guarded (Woohoo special treatment jk)...and have like soundman and cameramen all over them, I say they're in.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 24, 2010, 07:48:51 AM
Jet and Cord have been spotted holding on to these discs, which are also found near Amanda and Kris in this shot. Yep, I think that those discs are part of a task. :tup:

(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm109/Coutzy_2008/TAR%2018/IMG_0111.jpg)
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Sydney/TAR18SydneyTownHall2.jpg)

Any clue what they are? ???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 24, 2010, 07:53:41 AM
Dunno about the first one: maybe at the yacht task?

The second one is at the town hall in Sydney.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on November 24, 2010, 07:57:52 AM
The teams were carrying those discs when they came out of Manly Oceanworld. I speculate that a task involved them diving to retrieve it. I managed to sneak a quick look inside one of them, it appeared to be a compass rose, nothing more.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 24, 2010, 07:58:49 AM
Dunno about the first one: maybe at the yacht task?

The second one is at the town hall in Sydney.

No, I'm talking about the object J/C are holding, and the one near A/K.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 24, 2010, 08:01:20 AM
It must have a cultural/historical connection... or maybe it was created / custom made for the race then? :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on November 24, 2010, 08:04:48 AM
It must have a cultural/historical connection... or maybe it was created / custom made for the race then? :lol:

I can't think of any cultural or historic reason giant compasses would be used in Manly. The only possible thing I could think of for it would be to do with the European colonisation, but the most famous places for that are Botany Bay and Sydney Cove (Sydney Cove is right next to Circular Quay, where teams got their first clue Down Under)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on November 24, 2010, 08:11:47 AM
I'm disappointed that they still, by all accounts haven't done any Aussie Rules related tasks. If they want to go for cheap laughs (Think 'Your target is your partners face) and endless frustration, it would really be as simple as making the racers kick a football. The shape of the ball makes it near impossible for someone who doesn't know how to do it, and for added shame factor, why not have a few of the Semi-Pro players in the VFL (Victorian Football League) kick a ball around at the other end of the oval?

Yeah, I'm sadistical like that.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: maf on November 24, 2010, 08:21:10 AM
I'm disappointed that they still, by all accounts haven't done any Aussie Rules related tasks. If they want to go for cheap laughs (Think 'Your target is your partners face) and endless frustration, it would really be as simple as making the racers kick a football.

You mean like the kick a rugby-ball task in TARA4 a few episodes ago? That was in New Zealand, but it seemed to be pretty hard to score a goal.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 24, 2010, 08:28:26 AM
Current flight status:

QF21.....in the air and expected arrival is ~45 min early at this time.
CX524... awaiting takeoff at ~2 hours, 40 minutes from now
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 24, 2010, 08:36:42 AM
Current flight status:

QF21.....in the air and expected arrival is ~45 min early at this time @ 0530 Toyko time
CX524... awaiting takeoff in Hong Kong in ~2 hours, 40 minutes from now

Thanks Dr. that's what I was looking for. Can we tell from any of those pix or reports who is on which flight?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 24, 2010, 09:25:28 AM
I look forward to lots of great sightings in Tokyo airport. Be on the lookout from about 2:30-3:30 CST!

TPTB must be trying to get these kinds of countries out of the way at first. I predict that we will lose them at the end, but who knows, the powers of this board may be invincible.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 24, 2010, 09:43:26 AM
After consolidating a portion of the reports, it is safe to presume Kynt/Vyxsin, Mel/Mike and Margie/Luke are on the Hong Kong flight. Although given the amount of time they have, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone made it on as well!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 24, 2010, 10:28:41 AM
After consolidating a portion of the reports, it is safe to presume Kynt/Vyxsin, Mel/Mike and Margie/Luke are on the Hong Kong flight. Although given the amount of time they have, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone made it on as well!

I'm not sure that they would have wanted to. QF21 is making great time and will probably arrive 25 min before the CX flight.
We have anybody on that one?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 24, 2010, 10:46:22 AM
When a direct flight is only minutes behind...seems wiser to choose than a connection where anything could happen.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dojima on November 24, 2010, 10:52:21 AM
It seems my cousin is too busy to be able to spy on the teams for me in at the airport in Tokyo. Peach, I hope you have someone else to cover this!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 24, 2010, 12:35:18 PM
It looks like both are arriving at terminal 2. I've been through Narita several times and terminal 2 is QUICK. Chances are the teams from both flights won't even see each other.

It may be one of those where they are close but don't know their position.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 24, 2010, 12:37:44 PM
Now CX524 is showing that it was delayed 50min and will not land until 6:50am. That puts them an hour behind the others.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 24, 2010, 12:41:32 PM
When a direct flight is only minutes behind...seems wiser to choose than a connection where anything could happen.

Anything can happen means anything and this time it swung to the negative side. Now CX524 is showing that it will land an hour behind the others.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on November 24, 2010, 12:46:54 PM
QF21............anticipated gate arrival @ 0539

It turns out the direct flight from SYD is much better!

In TAR9, the teams drove rental cars from Narita to a parking lot near the Shibuya Scramble.

In TAR15, the teams spent the night at a hotel near Narita (?) and then took taxis to the Tokyo Tower Studios near Toranomon.

Will they be driving once again?  Or will they have to take a train?  I hope the clues tell them to take trains - that's part of the fun of being in Tokyo!!!

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on November 24, 2010, 01:02:45 PM
Ok, sorry. Just got too excited! :jumpy:
I'll watch out and switch to ROM.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on November 24, 2010, 01:04:15 PM
5:39 eastern time? or Japanese time? Im really confused :duno:

That would be 5:39AM JST (=UTC+9h, or =EST+14h).

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: michael on November 24, 2010, 01:07:40 PM
I'm so excited!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Chateau d If on November 24, 2010, 01:09:35 PM
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In TAR15, the teams spent the night at a hotel near Narita (?) and then took taxis to the Tokyo Tower Studios near Toranomon.

Actually, they spent the night in the "green room" at the base of Tokyo Tower.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 24, 2010, 01:11:56 PM
Hey King Michael.......nice to see ya.....

0539 is Japanese time for anticipated gate arrival for Qantas flight 21.....the current time in Toyko is 0409. So about an hour and a half till we know if anyone will be seen on that flight.....Teams could possiblity all booked on CX524 if enough seats were available.

IF teams are in fact split between the two flights......I sure bet there is a lot of grumbling and sweaty palms on that CX524 flight.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 24, 2010, 02:06:44 PM
QF21 is about 45 minutes to landing, still at the gate at 0539

CX524.......no change in status of flight...anticipated arrival is still 0650 Toyko time.

Thx 4 keeping up with this, Doc!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 24, 2010, 03:18:56 PM
please help watch FB and Twiiter.

And if you have time:

 TOKYO WEBCAMS (http://www.goandroam.com/webcams/japan/tokyo/)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: RichInSydney on November 24, 2010, 03:42:08 PM
I can confirm at least 5 teams seen at the airport on QF21. Someone at the airport was speaking with 3 of the teams:

"went to ask for a photo, for obvious reasons, they declined, but was a able to get one of their Travel books for Australia signed by 6 [individuals] of them. From the book, (and the notes they scribbled) they had to pick up cars in the outback (broken hill), caught the indian pacific back to sydney, they had a few places in Sydney marked on the map, bridge climb and the Pitt - Market and Castlereagh st area, as well as town hall."

I am trying to get more info now! Hope to be able to work out who was on QF21 soon!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 24, 2010, 04:36:26 PM
Do we know who got on what flight??

No we dont as of now.

Too add, im surprised no sightings yet especially considering its in the worlds largest city.

I know, and if anywhere knows the Race it is Japan. The QF21 teams have been on the ground for almost an hour, surely they have already left the airport.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 24, 2010, 04:38:54 PM
Do we know who got on what flight??

No we dont as of now.

Too add, im surprised no sightings yet especially considering its in the worlds largest city.

I know, and if anywhere knows the Race it is Japan. The QF21 teams have been on the ground for almost an hour, surely they have already left the airport.
Possibly have left the city and to the subrubs maybe? Rural Japan!

There is no possible way that they have not been seen by at least one person with a twitter account. Probably even a cameraphone.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 24, 2010, 04:44:01 PM

Does Tokyo ever sleep?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dojima on November 24, 2010, 04:45:41 PM
If they're using the subway, I feel sorry for them. It's the middle of the morning rush hour with no room. Japanese salarymen aren't the tweeting types anyways.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 24, 2010, 04:47:43 PM
And it is Japan...where staring and pointing is very rude. We have a very poor track record of spotting them there.

An hour to clear customs with complicated camera equiptment would be fast, so they may just be on transport now...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dojima on November 24, 2010, 04:51:28 PM
Well the Japanese are reserved people and don't really "tweet" or use facebook to post what they see or do.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on November 24, 2010, 04:53:01 PM
I know, and if anywhere knows the Race it is Japan. The QF21 teams have been on the ground for almost an hour, surely they have already left the airport.
Possibly have left the city and to the subrubs maybe? Rural Japan!

There is no possible way that they have not been seen by at least one person with a twitter account. Probably even a cameraphone.

It was in the morning. So its possible.

Does Tokyo ever sleep?
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i saw the live feed of shibuya crossing like 2 hours ago and it was bare almost.
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If i didn't remember wrongly, our Japan legs have usually the minimum spoilers because firstly, the people there don't speak much english and secondly, Japanese is one of the hardest language to master in the world.. hence even if random Japanese do post about twitter/facebook statuses (don't even know if they use them) of "random Americans rushing around me in the morning, so rude..." or what in Japanese, we need to be lucky and know the exact keywords to type in the search engines. I don't think many Japanese knows about TAR. Maybe TARA?

But yes, it's the morning now and hopefully we have a a few lucky fans (any nationality, just has to be in Japan) to spot them in action and share with us the good news. I'm praying hard.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TeamKandA on November 24, 2010, 05:49:58 PM
Well it's morning there now so hopefully we will start to see some action !
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on November 24, 2010, 06:32:12 PM
look wat i found! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_18_(Spoilers)  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 24, 2010, 06:44:35 PM
Wiki is not the place to look for spoilers, anyone can put anything. This page has nothing to see!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: wangsacl on November 24, 2010, 06:47:54 PM
Hi, I'm long time active reader only in this forum.. :) Really amazed with your forum make me hooked!! :)

 just wanna help to translate the sentence from the twitter.. It's in Bahasa Indonesia.. (And from the name, I bet He's also Indonesian :p)
The sentence meant: "This is so dumb.. The racer of Amazing Race said  " Tokyo is a Country in Europe" Hahaha.. So Dumb!! :p

So can confirm that they're racing in Tokyo.. 

hey guys!  I'd found this tweet from twitter by the name of hilmansiwabessy and this is related to TAR 18!  And yes, they're racing in Tokyo, Japan already after Australia and I also need a translation on what she'd said and I think she speak Malay or Indonesian, and this is what she'd said:

Quote
Ini tolol banget deh peserta Amazing Race, masa dibilang 'Tokyo is a country in europe' hahaha tolski.

hey, who'll do you think gonna said that?  I think that will be the title episode of TAR 18 for the Tokyo leg! :lol:
I kinda don't believe the user posting the tweet seen the teams, because he tweeted the following tweet, 2 hours after the TAR one:

Quote
Mengantar tim tennis ugm ke stasiun tugu untuk mengikuti kejurnas tennis se-indonesia di malang. Dan aku gak ikut -_-" gara2 ada uts.

that could be translated as:
Quote
UGM tennis team goes to Tugu Station to attend the Tennis National Championship in Malang. And I'm not with them -_-" because I have midterm tests.
Considering UGM's in Jogjakarta, Indonesia, he couldn't possible see teams from Australia to Tokyo.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 24, 2010, 06:49:17 PM
Short lifetime for that Wikipedie link.....its already gone poof
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 24, 2010, 07:31:20 PM
Apprently the teams are stuck on a time lapse delay in the subway credit:peach

What??
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tutorial on November 24, 2010, 08:34:29 PM
According to one twitter post, mom/son, son/son and cheerleader's flight is delayed by 70 minutes.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tutorial on November 24, 2010, 08:39:35 PM
There were 6 teams on that flight, trying to find out who are on the flights that is delayed....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on November 24, 2010, 08:40:54 PM
I thought: Flight Time/Big Easy, Margie/Luke, Mel/Mike, Jaime/Cara
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 25, 2010, 12:47:52 AM
My guess is a double leg in Japan. for thr past few seasons with the excpetion of season 14 either the first or second country visited has a double leg.

season 13: brazil
season15: vietnam
season 16: Chile
season 17: Ghana

I say no because Japan is an expensive country. Maybe the next?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 25, 2010, 01:11:51 AM
CX 534 arr Tokyo 92 min late!
Scheduled:    6:00 AM - Thu Nov 25, 2010 
Actual:    7:32 AM - Thu Nov 25, 2010 
     Arrived at gate 92 min later than scheduled 
Terminal:    2 

where as

QF 21 arr scheduled 6:15 AM  actual 6:13 AM  T-2 
Landed On-time 

So teams on the later departing direct flight arr 79 min before the other teams...that is a HUGE difference.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Zack. on November 25, 2010, 01:19:37 AM
My guess is a double leg in Japan. for thr past few seasons with the excpetion of season 14 either the first or second country visited has a double leg.

season 13: brazil
season15: vietnam
season 16: Chile
season 17: Ghana

But we already had a TBC in Australia? And as Caelestor said, Japan is fairly expensive, especially to house 18-20 people +crew.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: USsoccer on November 25, 2010, 01:37:15 AM
I don't think that housing the teams and crew in Japan is a problem financially when teams sometimes spend upwards of $10k on last minute flights...

On a different note: has anyone considered that production might not give the teams any Rest (Pitt) Stops and they will always either camp somewhere or be on the move (flight) during a Pitt Stop... That would make for some cranky people and drama...

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on November 25, 2010, 01:50:26 AM
(OOPS! Post moved to the spoiler thread)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: pipsy on November 25, 2010, 03:49:25 AM
Does anyone know if the Cowboys are still in the race?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 25, 2010, 04:40:24 AM
Does anyone know if the Cowboys are still in the race?

yes they are :hearts:

Most of the spoilers coming from people who were there state that Jet&Cord started this leg third,just after Zev&Justin and the Globetrotters.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 25, 2010, 05:16:29 AM
I'm a little lost due to "barriers" from me and my computer. What just happened? Are the racers in Japan or just stopping by there? Sorry for asking, the timeline is not updated so I could not keep up  :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 25, 2010, 05:22:53 AM
Yes they flew from Sydney to Tokyo.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 25, 2010, 05:30:14 AM
Cool! Tokyo again!! :))

Once again the Japanese people will have a glimpse of "Godzilla" again xD
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on November 25, 2010, 05:33:39 AM
Once again the Japanese people will have a glimpse of "Godzilla" again xD

 :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: topaz on November 25, 2010, 05:48:23 AM
man, they're racing in Japan and they're already in Asia.  I wish they could go to my country again in the Philippines since they'd visited here on season 5 and forget about the tragic event on the Manila bus hostage incident last Aug. 23. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 25, 2010, 05:49:59 AM
There are lots of tweets! (Currently looking a tweets too) It's amazing how you find it...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: hufter on November 25, 2010, 05:51:36 AM
Hi all! I decided to stop lurking and registered. I think I've developed a serious TAR obsession.

So, were that all of the teams spotted in Narita on CX524? Were anyone on QF21? Some have said teams were going to it, but have they been seen come out or actually going into the plane?
It is very possible that they couldn't get seats for QF21, Qantas has a shortage of capacity now that their A380's are grounded.  
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 25, 2010, 05:52:00 AM
man, they're racing in Japan and they're already in Asia.  I wish they could go to my country again in the Philippines since they'd visited here on season 5 and forget about the tragic event on the Manila bus hostage incident last Aug. 23. :tup:

OMG! You're pinoy too! Me too!

I hope they go to Baguio
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jerseydude on November 25, 2010, 05:59:01 AM
Hi all! I decided to stop lurking and registered. I think I've developed a serious TAR obsession.

So, were that all of the teams spotted in Narita on CX524? Were anyone on QF21? Some have said teams were going to it, but have they been seen come out or actually going into the plane?
It is very possible that they couldn't get seats for QF21, Qantas has a shortage of capacity now that their A380's are grounded. 


For the information we have now, 5 teams took CX524 via HK, 5 teams took QF 21.


Flight 1 (via Hong Kong)
Arrived 7:32am
Margie/Luke
Jamie/Cara
Zev/ Justin
Kynt/Vyxsin
Mel/Mike


Flight 2 (Direct Flight QF21)
Arrived 6:13am
Gary/Mallory
Flight Time/Big Easy
Kisha/Jen
Jet/Cord
Ron/Christina

(Information off http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23690.msg576798.html#msg576798)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 25, 2010, 06:21:09 AM
Hi all! I decided to stop lurking and registered. I think I've developed a serious TAR obsession.

So, were that all of the teams spotted in Narita on CX524? Were anyone on QF21? Some have said teams were going to it, but have they been seen come out or actually going into the plane?
It is very possible that they couldn't get seats for QF21, Qantas has a shortage of capacity now that their A380's are grounded. 


For the information we have now, 5 teams took CX524 via HK, 5 teams took QF 21.


Flight 1 (via Hong Kong)
Arrived 7:32am
Margie/Luke
Jamie/Cara
Zev/ Justin
Kynt/Vyxsin
Mel/Mike


Flight 2 (Direct Flight QF21)
Arrived 6:13am
Gary/Mallory
Flight Time/Big Easy
Kisha/Jen
Jet/Cord
Ron/Christina

(Information off http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23690.msg576798.html#msg576798)

Amanda/Kris is eliminated?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jerseydude on November 25, 2010, 06:41:45 AM
Hi all! I decided to stop lurking and registered. I think I've developed a serious TAR obsession.

So, were that all of the teams spotted in Narita on CX524? Were anyone on QF21? Some have said teams were going to it, but have they been seen come out or actually going into the plane?
It is very possible that they couldn't get seats for QF21, Qantas has a shortage of capacity now that their A380's are grounded. 


For the information we have now, 5 teams took CX524 via HK, 5 teams took QF 21.


Flight 1 (via Hong Kong)
Arrived 7:32am
Margie/Luke
Jamie/Cara
Zev/ Justin
Kynt/Vyxsin
Mel/Mike


Flight 2 (Direct Flight QF21)
Arrived 6:13am
Gary/Mallory
Flight Time/Big Easy
Kisha/Jen
Jet/Cord
Ron/Christina

(Information off http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23690.msg576798.html#msg576798)

Amanda/Kris is eliminated?

Well since Amanda and Kris are is the only team that has not been seen since leaving Sydney, it is most likely. However, remember it's speculation ;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: hufter on November 25, 2010, 06:59:25 AM


Flight 2 (Direct Flight QF21)
Arrived 6:13am
Gary/Mallory
Flight Time/Big Easy
Kisha/Jen
Jet/Cord
Ron/Christina

(Information off http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23690.msg576798.html#msg576798)

Yeah, but no sightings of these teams in Japan.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on November 25, 2010, 08:42:12 AM
Hi all! I decided to stop lurking and registered. I think I've developed a serious TAR obsession.

So, were that all of the teams spotted in Narita on CX524? Were anyone on QF21? Some have said teams were going to it, but have they been seen come out or actually going into the plane?
It is very possible that they couldn't get seats for QF21, Qantas has a shortage of capacity now that their A380's are grounded. 


For the information we have now, 5 teams took CX524 via HK, 5 teams took QF 21.


Flight 1 (via Hong Kong)
Arrived 7:32am
Margie/Luke
Jamie/Cara
Zev/ Justin
Kynt/Vyxsin
Mel/Mike


Flight 2 (Direct Flight QF21)
Arrived 6:13am
Gary/Mallory
Flight Time/Big Easy
Kisha/Jen
Jet/Cord
Ron/Christina

(Information off http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23690.msg576798.html#msg576798)

Amanda/Kris is eliminated?

Well since Amanda and Kris are is the only team that has not been seen since leaving Sydney, it is most likely. However, remember it's speculation ;)


I don't know if there is any information that supports this, but when I was searching on the 24th (us time) for flights from Sydney to Narita, I did see another possible flight SQ538 Singapore --> Narita that would arrive at Narita at 7:30AM in T-1.  Could it be that Amanda(r)/Kris were on that flight?  Again, speculation.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on November 25, 2010, 08:45:05 AM


Flight 2 (Direct Flight QF21)
Arrived 6:13am
Gary/Mallory
Flight Time/Big Easy
Kisha/Jen
Jet/Cord
Ron/Christina

(Information off http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23690.msg576798.html#msg576798)

Yeah, but no sightings of these teams in Japan.


Assuming they had the usual 12hour pitstop in Japan, the teams are probably headed at the pit start of the next leg (or about to) pretty soon. It's 11:43pm in Japan right now, and public trains will stop service shortly after midnight, so they'll have to be going around by car if they are indeed going out at this time.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on November 25, 2010, 08:50:33 AM
But yes, it's the morning now and hopefully we have a a few lucky fans (any nationality, just has to be in Japan) to spot them in action and share with us the good news. I'm praying hard.

Hey folks,
I run the TAR fan community on mixi.jp, Japan's largest social networking site (soon to lose it title to Twitter). We've been mirroring the LIVE SIGHTINGS thread from RFF over on mixi, and once I posted a note about the SYD-NRT air transit, one of our members decided to go to Narita early in the morning on 11/25 FRI (Japan time) and check it out!  He spotted 4 teams coming off of CX524 at Narita Terminal 2 - go read all about it in the LIVE SIGHTINGS thread!

We have not had any live sightings beyond that though.  However, I would imagine the next leg will be starting soon?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 25, 2010, 08:57:51 AM
But yes, it's the morning now and hopefully we have a a few lucky fans (any nationality, just has to be in Japan) to spot them in action and share with us the good news. I'm praying hard.

Hey folks,
I run the TAR fan community on mixi.jp, Japan's largest social networking site (soon to lose it title to Twitter). We've been mirroring the LIVE SIGHTINGS thread from RFF over on mixi, and once I posted a note about the SYD-NRT air transit, one of our members decided to go to Narita early in the morning on 11/25 FRI (Japan time) and check it out!  He spotted 4 teams coming off of CX524 at Narita Terminal 2 - go read all about it in the LIVE SIGHTINGS thread!

We have not had any live sightings beyond that though.  However, I would imagine the next leg will be starting soon?

I wouldn't think it is starting quite yet. Teams were on the ground by 7am so a 8-10 hr leg would have them in the PS by late afternoon. It is midnight in Tokyo so I would expect them to be released in about 3-5 hours.

Get some guys to the airport though, because they are likely to leave that way and we need to know where they are going. Thanks for the footwork!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 25, 2010, 09:06:44 AM
But yes, it's the morning now and hopefully we have a a few lucky fans (any nationality, just has to be in Japan) to spot them in action and share with us the good news. I'm praying hard.

Hey folks,
I run the TAR fan community on mixi.jp, Japan's largest social networking site (soon to lose it title to Twitter). We've been mirroring the LIVE SIGHTINGS thread from RFF over on mixi, and once I posted a note about the SYD-NRT air transit, one of our members decided to go to Narita early in the morning on 11/25 FRI (Japan time) and check it out!  He spotted 4 teams coming off of CX524 at Narita Terminal 2 - go read all about it in the LIVE SIGHTINGS thread!

We have not had any live sightings beyond that though.  However, I would imagine the next leg will be starting soon?


We can't wait to see! Thank YOU so much for hellping to arrange all this, what a wonderful response!

Pitstops have become flexible depending on the producers' needs/whims...they have ranged from 8 to 36+ hours, so it is impossible to judge anymore. I would like to document a Pitstop for this leg though, or I will be starting to wonder if no rststops is the new twist!

So I am not sure we can safely guess when they might be setting off.

Again, thanks so much to you and all your team, we look forward to meeting more of y'all!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 25, 2010, 09:27:28 AM
But yes, it's the morning now and hopefully we have a a few lucky fans (any nationality, just has to be in Japan) to spot them in action and share with us the good news. I'm praying hard.

Hey folks,
I run the TAR fan community on mixi.jp, Japan's largest social networking site (soon to lose it title to Twitter). We've been mirroring the LIVE SIGHTINGS thread from RFF over on mixi, and once I posted a note about the SYD-NRT air transit, one of our members decided to go to Narita early in the morning on 11/25 FRI (Japan time) and check it out!  He spotted 4 teams coming off of CX524 at Narita Terminal 2 - go read all about it in the LIVE SIGHTINGS thread!

We have not had any live sightings beyond that though.  However, I would imagine the next leg will be starting soon?


We can't wait to see! Thank YOU so much for hellping to arrange all this, what a wonderful response!

Pitstops have become flexible depending on the producers' needs/whims...they have ranged from 8 to 36+ hours, so it is impossible to judge anymore. I would like to document a Pitstop for this leg though, or I will be starting to wonder if no rststops is the new twist!

So I am not sure we can safely guess when they might be setting off.

Again, thanks so much to you and all your team, we look forward to meeting more of y'all!

Surely the teams will receive a longer rest this time around since they have yet to have a good one.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 25, 2010, 10:27:51 AM
maybe that's the twist to make this a tougher season-hardly any rest.


But yes, it's the morning now and hopefully we have a a few lucky fans (any nationality, just has to be in Japan) to spot them in action and share with us the good news. I'm praying hard.

Hey folks,
I run the TAR fan community on mixi.jp, Japan's largest social networking site (soon to lose it title to Twitter). We've been mirroring the LIVE SIGHTINGS thread from RFF over on mixi, and once I posted a note about the SYD-NRT air transit, one of our members decided to go to Narita early in the morning on 11/25 FRI (Japan time) and check it out!  He spotted 4 teams coming off of CX524 at Narita Terminal 2 - go read all about it in the LIVE SIGHTINGS thread!

We have not had any live sightings beyond that though.  However, I would imagine the next leg will be starting soon?


We can't wait to see! Thank YOU so much for hellping to arrange all this, what a wonderful response!

Pitstops have become flexible depending on the producers' needs/whims...they have ranged from 8 to 36+ hours, so it is impossible to judge anymore. I would like to document a Pitstop for this leg though, or I will be starting to wonder if no rststops is the new twist!

So I am not sure we can safely guess when they might be setting off.

Again, thanks so much to you and all your team, we look forward to meeting more of y'all!

Surely the teams will receive a longer rest this time around since they have yet to have a good one.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: north09 on November 25, 2010, 10:33:11 AM
But yes, it's the morning now and hopefully we have a a few lucky fans (any nationality, just has to be in Japan) to spot them in action and share with us the good news. I'm praying hard.

Hey folks,
I run the TAR fan community on mixi.jp, Japan's largest social networking site (soon to lose it title to Twitter). We've been mirroring the LIVE SIGHTINGS thread from RFF over on mixi, and once I posted a note about the SYD-NRT air transit, one of our members decided to go to Narita early in the morning on 11/25 FRI (Japan time) and check it out!  He spotted 4 teams coming off of CX524 at Narita Terminal 2 - go read all about it in the LIVE SIGHTINGS thread!

We have not had any live sightings beyond that though.  However, I would imagine the next leg will be starting soon?


We can't wait to see! Thank YOU so much for hellping to arrange all this, what a wonderful response!

Pitstops have become flexible depending on the producers' needs/whims...they have ranged from 8 to 36+ hours, so it is impossible to judge anymore. I would like to document a Pitstop for this leg though, or I will be starting to wonder if no rststops is the new twist!

So I am not sure we can safely guess when they might be setting off.

Again, thanks so much to you and all your team, we look forward to meeting more of y'all!

If there was ever a time to introduce a no reststops twist, now would be the time. All these teams have been through the race before and their bodies are more prepared for little rest as opposed to a new cast. It would explain having a greeter and sign at Cabbage Tree Bay.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on November 25, 2010, 10:46:10 AM
But yes, it's the morning now and hopefully we have a a few lucky fans (any nationality, just has to be in Japan) to spot them in action and share with us the good news. I'm praying hard.

Hey folks,
I run the TAR fan community on mixi.jp, Japan's largest social networking site (soon to lose it title to Twitter). We've been mirroring the LIVE SIGHTINGS thread from RFF over on mixi, and once I posted a note about the SYD-NRT air transit, one of our members decided to go to Narita early in the morning on 11/25 FRI (Japan time) and check it out!  He spotted 4 teams coming off of CX524 at Narita Terminal 2 - go read all about it in the LIVE SIGHTINGS thread!

We have not had any live sightings beyond that though.  However, I would imagine the next leg will be starting soon?


We can't wait to see! Thank YOU so much for hellping to arrange all this, what a wonderful response!

Pitstops have become flexible depending on the producers' needs/whims...they have ranged from 8 to 36+ hours, so it is impossible to judge anymore. I would like to document a Pitstop for this leg though, or I will be starting to wonder if no rststops is the new twist!

So I am not sure we can safely guess when they might be setting off.

Again, thanks so much to you and all your team, we look forward to meeting more of y'all!


Thanks! Hats off to Kuni who went ALL THE WAY to Narita before going to work on Friday!  He probably took a good 3 hours out of his daily schedule just for us!

And we over at mixi are having as much fun as you guys are!  I don't know if anyone else would be able to make to Narita again, but one of our members pointed out that the Haneda airport has recently beefed up its international service, so if the teams are headed to other parts of Asia, that may be the preferred port of departure. Haneda was the Tokyo International Airport before Narita opened in May 1981(?), and is much more convenient if you have to get from Tokyo to any of the East Asian or Southeast Asian destinations. 

The Narita sighting by Kuni was great because you guys provided lots of lead information, and there's plenty of time to react once you find out about a 16 hour flight. But now, since we don't have any leads at this point, it's all just "up in the air" (no pun intended).   

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 25, 2010, 10:59:56 AM
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Thanks! Hats off to Kuni who went ALL THE WAY to Narita before going to work on Friday!  He probably took a good 3 hours out of his daily schedule just for us!

And we over at mixi are having as much fun as you guys are!  I don't know if anyone else would be able to make to Narita again, but one of our members pointed out that the Haneda airport has recently beefed up its international service, so if the teams are headed to other parts of Asia, that may be the preferred port of departure. Haneda was the Tokyo International Airport before Narita opened in May 1981(?), and is much more convenient if you have to get from Tokyo to any of the East Asian or Southeast Asian destinations.

The Narita sighting by Kuni was great because you guys provided lots of lead information, and there's plenty of time to react once you find out about a 16 hour flight. But now, since we don't have any leads at this point, it's all just "up in the air" (no pun intended).   

That's a great tip about Haneda, we can look into that.

Thanks a lot to you guys for doing all this work!  :tup: We'll just keep hoping you can get a sighting.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jerseydude on November 25, 2010, 11:15:18 AM
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Thanks! Hats off to Kuni who went ALL THE WAY to Narita before going to work on Friday!  He probably took a good 3 hours out of his daily schedule just for us!

And we over at mixi are having as much fun as you guys are!  I don't know if anyone else would be able to make to Narita again, but one of our members pointed out that the Haneda airport has recently beefed up its international service, so if the teams are headed to other parts of Asia, that may be the preferred port of departure. Haneda was the Tokyo International Airport before Narita opened in May 1981(?), and is much more convenient if you have to get from Tokyo to any of the East Asian or Southeast Asian destinations.

The Narita sighting by Kuni was great because you guys provided lots of lead information, and there's plenty of time to react once you find out about a 16 hour flight. But now, since we don't have any leads at this point, it's all just "up in the air" (no pun intended).   

That's a great tip about Haneda, we can look into that.

Thanks a lot to you guys for doing all this work!  :tup: We'll just keep hoping you can get a sighting.

One possible location may be Taipei Taiwan. Around 1 month ago, the route from Haneda to Taipei Sung-shan started and currently Taipei is hosting the Flora Expo, which would make good scenery, especially since they're filming in HD. There are also many flight from Haneda and Narita airports to Taipei Sung Shan or Taoyuan International Airports.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TeamKandA on November 25, 2010, 11:21:00 AM
 :duno:

has anyone thought about the possibility of A and K getting an express pass and perhaps they were on the other flight solo?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 25, 2010, 11:23:44 AM

One possible location may be Taipei Taiwan. Around 1 month ago, the route from Haneda to Taipei Sung-shan started and currently Taipei is hosting the Flora Expo, which would make good scenery, especially since they're filming in HD. There are also many flight from Haneda and Narita airports to Taipei Sung Shan or Taoyuan International Airports.

But they make Taiwan leg after Japan leg in S12,I don't think they will do same route(but they do same route India-Thailand-China in S14 as S1,so every thing can happen)...I think  they will fly to China,and may have a leg in Hangzhou,Nanjing or Chengdu(panda :hearts:)...since China is nightmare of all remaining S14 teams(except Mel and Mike),production may want visit again to bring drama.

BTW,all Chinese fans are waiting!!! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 25, 2010, 11:37:15 AM
:duno:

has anyone thought about the possibility of A and K getting an express pass and perhaps they were on the other flight solo?
I don't think that's how it works
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on November 25, 2010, 12:10:44 PM
One possible location may be Taipei Taiwan. Around 1 month ago, the route from Haneda to Taipei Sung-shan started and currently Taipei is hosting the Flora Expo, which would make good scenery, especially since they're filming in HD. There are also many flight from Haneda and Narita airports to Taipei Sung Shan or Taoyuan International Airports.

TAR12 visited Taipei, where Chris/Ron had a considerable advantage.  Would they do the same thing?

The Haneda departure idea is simply speculation, but there is no information backing it.  Just pure speculation.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jerseydude on November 25, 2010, 12:18:50 PM
One possible location may be Taipei Taiwan. Around 1 month ago, the route from Haneda to Taipei Sung-shan started and currently Taipei is hosting the Flora Expo, which would make good scenery, especially since they're filming in HD. There are also many flight from Haneda and Narita airports to Taipei Sung Shan or Taoyuan International Airports.

TAR12 visited Taipei, where Chris/Ron had a considerable advantage.  Would they do the same thing?

The Haneda departure idea is simply speculation, but there is no information backing it.  Just pure speculation.

Yea but isn't this the Speculation Thread. Taiwan could also create the same drama as China especially if you visit the rural parts of Taiwan.

As for the advantage, what about FT/BE advantage of visiting Tokyo before? It can be considered as an advantage.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DavidJunior on November 25, 2010, 12:48:01 PM
what about Vladivostok, Russia?

i mean, they're right there, and they LOVE to use Russia...

and they could hop onto a train to Harbin, China- another country they love to use...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TeamKandA on November 25, 2010, 12:56:02 PM
:duno:

has anyone thought about the possibility of A and K getting an express pass and perhaps they were on the other flight solo?
I don't think that's how it works

I understand that - but they will be doing a lot of things we cannot speculate this season. Just a thought ... A hopeful one !
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Heliox on November 25, 2010, 01:31:17 PM
Fantastic work everyone.   :jumpy:  I am so excited by this season, and hugely excited that A/K might have been eliminated first. I would have pegged the only young athletic dating couple to have won this race (again). So I love that we have all the other mixes of teams left.

Question, I have read through most of the information. Is the consensus that the first pitstop was a 'rolling pitstop' but with an elimination?
And I am assuming that rolling pitstop means a to be continued. I think that no-rest pitstops for the entire race is a fantastic idea for returning teams. They will have time to rest and sleep on flights and in airports. Will make for some grumpy teams though!

Or was there believed to be one TBC pitstop and then a normal pitstop with an elimination?

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 25, 2010, 02:29:19 PM
Or was there believed to be one TBC pitstop and then a normal pitstop with an elimination?

I think there was one TBC in Sydney and then a normal Pit Stop in Broken Hill. BTW, a "rolling Pit Stop" means that the contestants moved from one place to another during the Pit Stop time, like in Season 16 when they took the bus from Germany to France or Season 15 when the Pit Stop was a moving boat.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on November 25, 2010, 03:02:37 PM
I'm so excited about this season, can't wait to see some of my favorite teams from previous season race another race.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 25, 2010, 03:11:27 PM
I would love if they visit Chengdu!!I went there with my family when I was 16 and have never fallen in love with anywhere faster!Do beautiful and the people were wonderful!


One possible location may be Taipei Taiwan. Around 1 month ago, the route from Haneda to Taipei Sung-shan started and currently Taipei is hosting the Flora Expo, which would make good scenery, especially since they're filming in HD. There are also many flight from Haneda and Narita airports to Taipei Sung Shan or Taoyuan International Airports.

But they make Taiwan leg after Japan leg in S12,I don't think they will do same route(but they do same route India-Thailand-China in S14 as S1,so every thing can happen)...I think  they will fly to China,and may have a leg in Hangzhou,Nanjing or Chengdu(panda :hearts:)...since China is nightmare of all remaining S14 teams(except Mel and Mike),production may want visit again to bring drama.

BTW,all Chinese fans are waiting!!! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Heliox on November 25, 2010, 03:42:25 PM
Or was there believed to be one TBC pitstop and then a normal pitstop with an elimination?

I think there was one TBC in Sydney and then a normal Pit Stop in Broken Hill. BTW, a "rolling Pit Stop" means that the contestants moved from one place to another during the Pit Stop time, like in Season 16 when they took the bus from Germany to France or Season 15 when the Pit Stop was a moving boat.

Thanks so much for clarifying that. I was definitely off on my assumption of what the rolling pit stop meant.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: RichInSydney on November 25, 2010, 03:53:38 PM
:duno:

has anyone thought about the possibility of A and K getting an express pass and perhaps they were on the other flight solo?
I don't think that's how it works

I understand that - but they will be doing a lot of things we cannot speculate this season. Just a thought ... A hopeful one !
I'm sorry to bring you bad news, but there is a stack of evidence that Amanda and Kris were the first team to be eliminated in Broken Hill.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 25, 2010, 04:00:35 PM
:duno:

has anyone thought about the possibility of A and K getting an express pass and perhaps they were on the other flight solo?
I don't think that's how it works

I understand that - but they will be doing a lot of things we cannot speculate this season. Just a thought ... A hopeful one !
I'm sorry to bring you bad news, but there is a stack of evidence that Amanda and Kris were the first team to be eliminated in Broken Hill.
:'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 25, 2010, 04:01:29 PM
Fantastic work everyone.   :jumpy:  I am so excited by this season, and hugely excited that A/K might have been eliminated first. I would have pegged the only young athletic dating couple to have won this race (again). So I love that we have all the other mixes of teams left.

Question, I have read through most of the information. Is the consensus that the first pitstop was a 'rolling pitstop' but with an elimination?
And I am assuming that rolling pitstop means a to be continued. I think that no-rest pitstops for the entire race is a fantastic idea for returning teams. They will have time to rest and sleep on flights and in airports. Will make for some grumpy teams though!

Or was there believed to be one TBC pitstop and then a normal pitstop with an elimination?




Ya I am pretty happy to see amanda and kris go.

What's with the animosity toward Krimanda?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NotKaren on November 25, 2010, 04:10:11 PM
I barely remember them, I don't dislike them enough to be happy for their elimination per se, BUT I am happy that this means I'll get to see teams I like and am invested in for another leg. Jaime going away ASAP would have been better, sure, but other than that, I'd really rather see racers I actually care about reach another continent. It's bad enough for my nerves that there are a couple of teams this season I'm SO invested in, I'm a nervous wreck checking these threads every morning!  :ascared I desperately want Gary to race as much as possible because aside from Nat and Kat (even if they didn't win TAR17, they're not mactors, they can't take time off as much as other contestants) he's the closest I'll ever be to being on the Race. Not that I'm as awesome or as competent, but I think he's the biggest fan of the Race who's ever actually been on it. OK, the biggest fan I actually like and feel represented by, but yeah... Go, Gary! And Goths! And Zev and Justin! There aren't many seasons where I've been so invested in the racers, I'm really looking forward to this one!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 25, 2010, 04:12:50 PM
I barely remember them, I don't dislike them enough to be happy for their elimination per se, BUT I am happy that this means I'll get to see teams I like and am invested in for another leg. Jaime going away ASAP would have been better, sure, but other than that, I'd really rather see racers I actually care about reach another continent. It's bad enough for my nerves that there are a couple of teams this season I'm SO invested in, I'm a nervous wreck checking these threads every morning!  :ascared I desperately want Gary to race as much as possible because aside from Nat and Kat (even if they didn't win TAR17, they're not mactors, they can't take time off as much as other contestants) he's the closest I'll ever be to being on the Race. Not that I'm as awesome or as competent, but I think he's the biggest fan of the Race who's ever actually been on it. OK, the biggest fan I actually like and feel represented by, but yeah... Go, Gary! And Goths! And Zev and Justin! There aren't many seasons where I've been so invested in the racers, I'm really looking forward to this one!

Then it looks like the producers have done their homework.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 25, 2010, 04:39:34 PM
Sometimes you get couples that are competent Racers and who do not bicker or say things that drive people crazy.  Like Kris and Amanda. They ran into being U-Turned in their original season, and didn't really make any mistakes leading into it.  They just had the misfortune of being targeted by a blind U-Turn. 
They reminded people during their original season of TAR 6's Kris and Jon, who almost pulled off the win but for some bad advice in booking their final flight back to the U.S. Kris and Jon were strong Racers, never argued, and from all reports to this day, are well liked and generated fond memories from the fans.
That is why some of us liked the fact they were included in this new season and why we're sad that they were apparently the first ones out.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 25, 2010, 05:02:38 PM
Sometimes you get couples that are competent Racers and who do not bicker or say things that drive people crazy.  Like Kris and Amanda. They ran into being U-Turned in their original season, and didn't really make any mistakes leading into it.  They just had the misfortune of being targeted by a blind U-Turn. 
They reminded people during their original season of TAR 6's Kris and Jon, who almost pulled off the win but for some bad advice in booking their final flight back to the U.S. Kris and Jon were strong Racers, never argued, and from all reports to this day, are well liked and generated fond memories from the fans.
That is why some of us liked the fact they were included in this new season and why we're sad that they were apparently the first ones out.

I agree, I am not with the crowd who hates all young couple teams now. A team can be good and/or nice people regardless of their makeup.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NumfarPTB on November 25, 2010, 05:14:33 PM
One possible location may be Taipei Taiwan. Around 1 month ago, the route from Haneda to Taipei Sung-shan started and currently Taipei is hosting the Flora Expo, which would make good scenery, especially since they're filming in HD. There are also many flight from Haneda and Narita airports to Taipei Sung Shan or Taoyuan International Airports.

TAR12 visited Taipei, where Chris/Ron had a considerable advantage.  Would they do the same thing?

The Haneda departure idea is simply speculation, but there is no information backing it.  Just pure speculation.

It could also be Kaohsiung, there are direct flights from Narita, not as many as Taipei, but then they'll lose Floral Expo.
But might be complicated to visit Taiwan this weekend, since there's election on Saturday.

I think a leg in India or China still more probable than another leg in Taiwan.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 25, 2010, 05:30:22 PM
One possible location may be Taipei Taiwan. Around 1 month ago, the route from Haneda to Taipei Sung-shan started and currently Taipei is hosting the Flora Expo, which would make good scenery, especially since they're filming in HD. There are also many flight from Haneda and Narita airports to Taipei Sung Shan or Taoyuan International Airports.

TAR12 visited Taipei, where Chris/Ron had a considerable advantage.  Would they do the same thing?

The Haneda departure idea is simply speculation, but there is no information backing it.  Just pure speculation.

It could also be Kaohsiung, there are direct flights from Narita, not as many as Taipei, but then they'll lose Floral Expo.
But might be complicated to visit Taiwan this weekend, since there's election on Saturday.

I think a leg in India or China still more probable than another leg in Taiwan.

Doubt China, it's been overused lately. I'm almost certain India will be back (when did the travel alert go down again?)
We could have both Taipei and Kaohsiung (just take the HSR like last time).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 25, 2010, 05:32:33 PM
I have nothing against Kris and Amanda.They seemed like a nice couple but I had to think really hard to remember them. I haven't seen Kynt and Vyxsins season.Can anyone enlighten me as to why they're
so well liked?Same goes for Christina and Ronald actually.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Belle Book on November 25, 2010, 05:36:33 PM
I have nothing against Kris and Amanda.They seemed like a nice couple but I had to think really hard to remember them. I haven't seen Kynt and Vyxsins season.Can anyone enlighten me as to why they're
so well liked?Same goes for Christina and Ronald actually.

I think one reason why the Goths (Kynt & Vyksin) are so well-liked is because they were really nice to each other and were good racers for the most part.  I liked Ron & Christina at first because they were Asian American and I have a fondness for Asian Americans, but later on I came to like them because their relationship improved and because they were underdogs to some degree.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: pipsy on November 25, 2010, 06:02:12 PM
Does anyone know if the Cowboys are still in the race?

yes they are :hearts:

Most of the spoilers coming from people who were there state that Jet&Cord started this leg third,just after Zev&Justin and the Globetrotters.


Yay! :jumpy: Love those guys!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dojima on November 25, 2010, 06:19:50 PM
The couple could be either Gary/Mallory or Margie/Luke. It would be a huge change of development if it turns out to be Amanda/Kris.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 25, 2010, 06:22:03 PM
I have nothing against Kris and Amanda.They seemed like a nice couple but I had to think really hard to remember them. I haven't seen Kynt and Vyxsins season.Can anyone enlighten me as to why they're
so well liked?Same goes for Christina and Ronald actually.

I think one reason why the Goths (Kynt & Vyksin) are so well-liked is because they were really nice to each other and were good racers for the most part.  I liked Ron & Christina at first because they were Asian American and I have a fondness for Asian Americans, but later on I came to like them because their relationship improved and because they were underdogs to some degree.

Belle Book

Also Kynt & Vyxsin are kinda quirky and, at least aestethically, a unique team.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on November 25, 2010, 06:24:46 PM
The couple could be either Gary/Mallory or Margie/Luke. It would be a huge change of development if it turns out to be Amanda/Kris.

Yeah, especially since signs are pointing in the direction of them having been philiminated already...

No offense to the very active and healthy Gary who did very well in TAR17, but would one look at Gary/Mallory and call them a couple?  (Ok, that's for the speculation thread!)

I am going to put in my vote for Margie/Luke.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 25, 2010, 06:30:21 PM
I think that the Australia TBC counts as 2 episodes, and that this race will still only be 12 episodes (it's going to be hard to squeeze a 13th in).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 25, 2010, 06:44:48 PM
Anyway, I am checking with him when he was there and where the exact temple/shrine he was at. He later on did say it was during the afternoon and was located near the center of the city, so I am going on a whim and say it was the Tsurugaoka Hachiman-gu (鶴岡八幡宮) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode&q=%E9%B6%B4%E5%B2%A1%E5%85%AB%E5%B9%A1%E5%AE%AE&sll=35.31629%2C139.549842&sspn=0.006461%2C0.013937&ie=UTF8&hq=%E9%B6%B4%E5%B2%A1%E5%85%AB%E5%B9%A1%E5%AE%AE&hnear&ll=35.323599%2C139.555142&spn=0.01285%2C0.027874&z=16&layer=c&cbll=35.32367%2C139.554967&panoid=Ota8wQsGSkPJ75x1zWiocw&cbp=12%2C15.57%2C%2C0%2C3.41).

This is a nice walk away from the JR Kamakura Station, and quite a popular tourist spot.

I just got confirmation that it was indeed at the Tsurugaoka Hachiman-gu Shrine (see the Google street view link above) on Friday afternoon where he spotted Jet/Cord, Kisha/Jen, Kynt/Vyxsin, and what I am guessing as Amanda/Kris or Margie/Luke.  Checking what time he saw them.

For more information, check out the Wikipedia page on Tsurugaoka Hachiman-gu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsurugaoka_Hachiman-g%C5%AB).

 :yess: UPDATE#2!

His sighting was around 1:30PM on 2010/11/25 FRI.

This looks like it is a pretty extensive complex, I wonder if it is the Pit Stop. I actually think the whole leg could have been around Kamakura, there are plenty of sights and it looks like a great city.

(the 25th is Thursday)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on November 25, 2010, 06:46:51 PM
I have nothing against Kris and Amanda.They seemed like a nice couple but I had to think really hard to remember them. I haven't seen Kynt and Vyxsins season.Can anyone enlighten me as to why they're
so well liked?Same goes for Christina and Ronald actually.

I think one reason why the Goths (Kynt & Vyksin) are so well-liked is because they were really nice to each other and were good racers for the most part.  I liked Ron & Christina at first because they were Asian American and I have a fondness for Asian Americans, but later on I came to like them because their relationship improved and because they were underdogs to some degree.

Belle Book


Don't believe everything you see.  :angel
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 25, 2010, 06:55:32 PM
Thank you to everyone who replied!Everyone is so respectful of others here and that's lovely to see!Ooh Coutzy do you have some inside knowledge?lol perhaps following them around
Sydney gave you a different outlook?;)

I have nothing against Kris and Amanda.They seemed like a nice couple but I had to think really hard to remember them. I haven't seen Kynt and Vyxsins season.Can anyone enlighten me as to why they're
so well liked?Same goes for Christina and Ronald actually.

I think one reason why the Goths (Kynt & Vyksin) are so well-liked is because they were really nice to each other and were good racers for the most part.  I liked Ron & Christina at first because they were Asian American and I have a fondness for Asian Americans, but later on I came to like them because their relationship improved and because they were underdogs to some degree.

Belle Book


Don't believe everything you see.  :angel
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 25, 2010, 06:59:49 PM
I think this is the right thread to discuss this, but, even though I saw them nice to each other, K/V bickered a fair amount too. Italy everyone?

Ok. Moving on to the race. :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 25, 2010, 07:02:26 PM

Yay! :jumpy: Love those guys!


So do I!!!They're my absolute favourites!On
a side note, I really hope Kesha and Jen learned
how
to swim o.O
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on November 25, 2010, 07:18:27 PM
Thank you to everyone who replied!Everyone is so respectful of others here and that's lovely to see!Ooh Coutzy do you have some inside knowledge?lol perhaps following them around
Sydney gave you a different outlook?;)

Indeed it did. They spent some time bickering while the cameras weren't rolling. Vyxsin was asking Kynt not to yell at her so much, while Kynt was sure he'd only yelled once, in encouragement.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: USsoccer on November 25, 2010, 07:19:31 PM

Yay! :jumpy: Love those guys!


So do I!!!They're my absolute favourites!On
a side note, I really hope Kesha and Jen learned
how
to swim o.O

Given the fact that they are still in the race after a task at the Aquarium in Manly (which probably had something to do with water..), I would say they might have.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 25, 2010, 07:20:18 PM
Thank you to everyone who replied!Everyone is so respectful of others here and that's lovely to see!Ooh Coutzy do you have some inside knowledge?lol perhaps following them around
Sydney gave you a different outlook?;)

Indeed it did. They spent some time bickering while the cameras weren't rolling. Vyxsin was asking Kynt not to yell at her so much, while Kynt was sure he'd only yelled once, in encouragement.


The pink and black had their share of fights on TAR 12.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: sweffilou on November 25, 2010, 07:21:52 PM

Yay! :jumpy: Love those guys!


So do I!!!They're my absolute favourites!On
a side note, I really hope Kesha and Jen learned
how
to swim o.O

I thought it was just Jen which didn't know how to or was afraid of water - mind you I hope so to after we saw them in lone of the pictures in wetsuits
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 25, 2010, 07:25:21 PM

Yay! :jumpy: Love those guys!


So do I!!!They're my absolute favourites!On
a side note, I really hope Kesha and Jen learned
how
to swim o.O

I thought it was just Jen which didn't know how to or was afraid of water - mind you I hope so to after we saw them in lone of the pictures in wetsuits

I think they were both afraid of water; the younger 1 just showed it more.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 25, 2010, 07:35:01 PM
I think the younger one was more afraid of water but neither could swim very well.It's sad I know
but I played on repeat the part where one dives into the water and the other says "Mama still ain't name
her Grace." It was one of my favourite moments from that season.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 25, 2010, 08:03:35 PM
 :duno: What is about Jaime that you want her gone fast? :duno: not sure if this got posted to the right comment.... :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: realityfan2001 on November 25, 2010, 08:50:50 PM
It seems we lost contact with Japanese?!
 
I am a TAR fan in Guangzhou, China. 
And there are numbers of fans in Mainland China.
If they come to China, maybe we can do all this things as many as possible.

vernmei@gmail.com
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 25, 2010, 08:53:57 PM
Kent and Vyxsin scored points with a lot of the fan base for their treatment of the fans after their season was filmed and their elimination that season was broadcast.  (Not the first team to do that either -- the Guidos are the best example.) And I think several of these teams are showing signs of having benefited from their prior Racing experience.

As to Jaime, I'm going to guess that her decision to appear in a certain magazine wasn't very popular. Otherwise, I'm not really sure. I thought they were capable of winning the Race the first time around, and I would view them as a definite contender this time out.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: north09 on November 25, 2010, 09:05:44 PM
Kent and Vyxsin scored points with a lot of the fan base for their treatment of the fans after their season was filmed and their elimination that season was broadcast.  (Not the first team to do that either -- the Guidos are the best example.) And I think several of these teams are showing signs of having benefited from their prior Racing experience.

As to Jaime, I'm going to guess that her decision to appear in a certain magazine wasn't very popular. Otherwise, I'm not really sure. I thought they were capable of winning the Race the first time around, and I would view them as a definite contender this time out.

I believe it was her treatment of the cab drivers and her decision in the final leg to call 911 dispatch because the driver didn't know where the place was they were going.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 25, 2010, 09:13:42 PM
Kent and Vyxsin scored points with a lot of the fan base for their treatment of the fans after their season was filmed and their elimination that season was broadcast.  (Not the first team to do that either -- the Guidos are the best example.) And I think several of these teams are showing signs of having benefited from their prior Racing experience.

As to Jaime, I'm going to guess that her decision to appear in a certain magazine wasn't very popular. Otherwise, I'm not really sure. I thought they were capable of winning the Race the first time around, and I would view them as a definite contender this time out.

I believe it was her treatment of the cab drivers and her decision in the final leg to call 911 dispatch because the driver didn't know where the place was they were going.

I agree and just generally she seemed quite rude.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 25, 2010, 09:15:17 PM
 :wohoo: :tup:
Kent and Vyxsin scored points with a lot of the fan base for their treatment of the fans after their season was filmed and their elimination that season was broadcast.  (Not the first team to do that either -- the Guidos are the best example.) And I think several of these teams are showing signs of having benefited from their prior Racing experience.

As to Jaime, I'm going to guess that her decision to appear in a certain magazine wasn't very popular. Otherwise, I'm not really sure. I thought they were capable of winning the Race the first time around, and I would view them as a definite contender this time out.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 25, 2010, 09:22:09 PM
 :ascared
Kent and Vyxsin scored points with a lot of the fan base for their treatment of the fans after their season was filmed and their elimination that season was broadcast.  (Not the first team to do that either -- the Guidos are the best example.) And I think several of these teams are showing signs of having benefited from their prior Racing experience.

As to Jaime, I'm going to guess that her decision to appear in a certain magazine wasn't very popular. Otherwise, I'm not really sure. I thought they were capable of winning the Race the first time around, and I would view them as a definite contender this time out.

I believe it was her treatment of the cab drivers and her decision in the final leg to call 911 dispatch because the driver didn't know where the place was they were going.

I agree and just generally she seemed quite rude.
[
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jayreh1021 on November 25, 2010, 09:33:27 PM
I probably would have gone crazy too but calling 911 and such does seem a bit overboard
:ascared
Kent and Vyxsin scored points with a lot of the fan base for their treatment of the fans after their season was filmed and their elimination that season was broadcast.  (Not the first team to do that either -- the Guidos are the best example.) And I think several of these teams are showing signs of having benefited from their prior Racing experience.

As to Jaime, I'm going to guess that her decision to appear in a certain magazine wasn't very popular. Otherwise, I'm not really sure. I thought they were capable of winning the Race the first time around, and I would view them as a definite contender this time out.

I believe it was her treatment of the cab drivers and her decision in the final leg to call 911 dispatch because the driver didn't know where the place was they were going.

I agree and just generally she seemed quite rude.
:ascared
Could you imagine being that close to winning the race and getting in a cab on the LAST leg and getting a cab driver that didnt know where he was GOING??? Oh my Gosh, THEN for him to stop to get GAS!  :meow: :meow:
Oh what would you have done? I would have had to have my partner in the race PULL ME OFF OF HIM! LOL....
I would have called Any one at that close to the end! 911, 411, 1-800- wheretheheck are we? I would have gone nuts! LOL :knuckles:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 25, 2010, 09:40:02 PM
B:) B:)
I probably would have gone crazy too but calling 911 and such does seem a bit overboard
:ascared
Kent and Vyxsin scored points with a lot of the fan base for their treatment of the fans after their season was filmed and their elimination that season was broadcast.  (Not the first team to do that either -- the Guidos are the best example.) And I think several of these teams are showing signs of having benefited from their prior Racing experience.

As to Jaime, I'm going to guess that her decision to appear in a certain magazine wasn't very popular. Otherwise, I'm not really sure. I thought they were capable of winning the Race the first time around, and I would view them as a definite contender this time out.

I believe it was her treatment of the cab drivers and her decision in the final leg to call 911 dispatch because the driver didn't know where the place was they were going.

I agree and just generally she seemed quite rude.
[
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 25, 2010, 09:44:03 PM
 I was just going to say that I hope we get a sighting soon!I'm avidly watching these boards and Twitter but alas nothing has turned up yet :(


B:) B:)
I probably would have gone crazy too but calling 911 and such does seem a bit overboard
:ascared
Kent and Vyxsin scored points with a lot of the fan base for their treatment of the fans after their season was filmed and their elimination that season was broadcast.  (Not the first team to do that either -- the Guidos are the best example.) And I think several of these teams are showing signs of having benefited from their prior Racing experience.

As to Jaime, I'm going to guess that her decision to appear in a certain magazine wasn't very popular. Otherwise, I'm not really sure. I thought they were capable of winning the Race the first time around, and I would view them as a definite contender this time out.

I believe it was her treatment of the cab drivers and her decision in the final leg to call 911 dispatch because the driver didn't know where the place was they were going.

I agree and just generally she seemed quite rude.
:ascared
Could you imagine being that close to winning the race and getting in a cab on the LAST leg and getting a cab driver that didnt know where he was GOING??? Oh my Gosh, THEN for him to stop to get GAS!  :meow: :meow:
Oh what would you have done? I would have had to have my partner in the race PULL ME OFF OF HIM! LOL....
I would have called Any one at that close to the end! 911, 411, 1-800- wheretheheck are we? I would have gone nuts! LOL :knuckles:

I wish some one would spot them somewhere soon!!! You cant miss the Globe trotters, or the gothic girls! Maybe they got a break for Thanksgiving!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 25, 2010, 09:46:18 PM
 :jam:
I was just going to say that I hope we get a sighting soon!I'm avidly watching these boards and Twitter but alas nothing has turned up yet :(


B:) B:)
I probably would have gone crazy too but calling 911 and such does seem a bit overboard
:ascared
:colors yes I have 2 computers going at once , checking FB and the Blogs !
Kent and Vyxsin scored points with a lot of the fan base for their treatment of the fans after their season was filmed and their elimination that season was broadcast.  (Not the first team to do that either -- the Guidos are the best example.) And I think several of these teams are showing signs of having benefited from their prior Racing experience.

As to Jaime, I'm going to guess that her decision to appear in a certain magazine wasn't very popular. Otherwise, I'm not really sure. I thought they were capable of winning the Race the first time around, and I would view them as a definite contender this time out.

I believe it was her treatment of the cab drivers and her decision in the final leg to call 911 dispatch because the driver didn't know where the place was they were going.

I agree and just generally she seemed quite rude.
:ascared
Could you imagine being that close to winning the race and getting in a cab on the LAST leg and getting a cab driver that didnt know where he was GOING??? Oh my Gosh, THEN for him to stop to get GAS!  :meow: :meow:
Oh what would you have done? I would have had to have my partner in the race PULL ME OFF OF HIM! LOL....
I would have called Any one at that close to the end! 911, 411, 1-800- wheretheheck are we? I would have gone nuts! LOL :knuckles:

I wish some one would spot them somewhere soon!!! You cant miss the Globe trotters, or the gothic girls! Maybe they got a break for Thanksgiving!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gl14 on November 25, 2010, 09:50:10 PM
So....with a lack of sightings in Japan, is it possible they are NOT in Tokyo afterall but in a different country??

EDIT: I realize that a flight from Sydney to Tokyo is rather long, especially if there is a connection in Hong Kong and if the flight was delayed. which could have explained the lack of sightings since they must have been in the air the whole time! just now read the sightings at a Japanese shrine, so I guess Tokyo is indeed confirmed which is kinda disappointing since we just saw Japan recently. so that means Globetrotters (back in Tokyo) and Asian team back in Japan
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 25, 2010, 09:52:05 PM
:groan: We are drifting away... *sigh*
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 25, 2010, 09:53:33 PM
So....with a lack of sightings in Japan, is it possible they are NOT in Tokyo afterall but in a different country??
Someone spotted teams racing at  Kamakura .So they raced in Japan.But only this sighting...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: michael on November 25, 2010, 09:58:34 PM
If a tree falls in a forest and nobody is around to see it does it still make a noise ....?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 25, 2010, 10:05:05 PM
 :umn:
If a tree falls in a forest and nobody is around to see it does it still make a noise ....?
:umn:
I would say "yes" ??? I know that was a trick question......
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 25, 2010, 10:18:38 PM
:umn:
If a tree falls in a forest and nobody is around to see it does it still make a noise ....?
:umn:
I would say "yes" ??? I know that was a trick question......

Actually it was rhetorical........and yeah......you missed it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 25, 2010, 10:21:49 PM
 :lol3:
:umn:
If a tree falls in a forest and nobody is around to see it does it still make a noise ....?
:umn:
I would say "yes" ??? I know that was a trick question......

Actually it was rhetorical........and yeah......you missed it.
:lol3: this would be like " who came first the chicken or the egg?"   need sleeppppppppp
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 25, 2010, 10:31:30 PM
I'm wondering if they're getting their first real pit stop, that's more than the usual 12-hours, and getting a chance for a Thanksgiving meal. Didn't this come up with TAR 11? Does anyone remember anything one way or the other?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on November 25, 2010, 10:34:04 PM
Same could be said for Margie and Luke. I would expect Gary and Mallory to look more like Amanda/Kris than Margie/Luke, unless of course it is Amanda/Kris.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on November 25, 2010, 10:35:21 PM
Hmm a possible Amanda/Kris sighting? thats interesting.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 25, 2010, 10:38:45 PM
Thank you to everyone who replied!Everyone is so respectful of others here and that's lovely to see!Ooh Coutzy do you have some inside knowledge?lol perhaps following them around
Sydney gave you a different outlook?;)

I have nothing against Kris and Amanda.They seemed like a nice couple but I had to think really hard to remember them. I haven't seen Kynt and Vyxsins season.Can anyone enlighten me as to why they're
so well liked?Same goes for Christina and Ronald actually.

I think one reason why the Goths (Kynt & Vyksin) are so well-liked is because they were really nice to each other and were good racers for the most part.  I liked Ron & Christina at first because they were Asian American and I have a fondness for Asian Americans, but later on I came to like them because their relationship improved and because they were underdogs to some degree.

Belle Book


Don't believe everything you see.  :angel

I like them because they are unique and seem likeable and happy about the experience
They are also great racers (NEVER finished below 5th place, although this has changed this season already  :lol: )
2nd   4th   4th   5th   2nd   2nd   5th   5th (That is their race record until their elimination)


And to TSPKM, I dont think so- they probably mistook Margie and Luke for a couple (Or G/M :lol: )
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: RichInSydney on November 25, 2010, 10:41:30 PM
Hmm a possible Amanda/Kris sighting? thats interesting.
Where abouts? Maybe Sequesterville?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on November 25, 2010, 10:44:09 PM
Idk Margie and Luke look nothing like Amanda and Kris, niether do Gary/Mallory. Maybe the first leg was a NEL ?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on November 25, 2010, 10:47:09 PM
Facebook post: Went to the Kamakura Shrine and saw some Amazing Race Contestants. :) (9 hours ago)
----------------------------------------------------------

Kamakuri is located 1 hour outside Tokyo

9 hours ago in Tokyo was 10pm. This could be from the previous leg!

Peach gave me the lead to the person who posted this update on Facebook.  I'm getting the details figured out as his account is somewhat sketchy, but he is visiting the Tokyo area so he's not a resident there - gotta cut him a bit of slack there, as Japan can be confusing to many foreigners.

What I have so far is the following (he gave me permission to share details):

Quote
I went there in the afternoon. I don't know which temple that was as I'm also a foreigner here but it's the one where you have to climb a number of steps before you reach the top. I saw cowboys, 2 black ladies, 2 pink-dyed hair ladies, and a Caucasian couple. I was able to take a picture of the cowboy and the black ladies.

2 pink-dyed hair ladies FTW!!!  :colors  :lol:

Anyway, I am checking with him when he was there and where the exact temple/shrine he was at. He later on did say it was during the afternoon and was located near the center of the city, so I am going on a whim and say it was the Tsurugaoka Hachiman-gu (鶴岡八幡宮) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode&q=%E9%B6%B4%E5%B2%A1%E5%85%AB%E5%B9%A1%E5%AE%AE&sll=35.31629%2C139.549842&sspn=0.006461%2C0.013937&ie=UTF8&hq=%E9%B6%B4%E5%B2%A1%E5%85%AB%E5%B9%A1%E5%AE%AE&hnear&ll=35.323599%2C139.555142&spn=0.01285%2C0.027874&z=16&layer=c&cbll=35.32367%2C139.554967&panoid=Ota8wQsGSkPJ75x1zWiocw&cbp=12%2C15.57%2C%2C0%2C3.41).

(hold on, this is still unconfirmed)

This is a nice walk away from the JR Kamakura Station, and quite a popular tourist spot.

Stay tuned...

 :yess: UPDATE!
I just got confirmation that it was indeed at the Tsurugaoka Hachiman-gu Shrine (see the Google street view link above) on Friday afternoon where he spotted Jet/Cord, Kisha/Jen, Kynt/Vyxsin, and what I am guessing as Amanda/Kris or Margie/Luke.  Checking what time he saw them.

For more information, check out the Wikipedia page on Tsurugaoka Hachiman-gu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsurugaoka_Hachiman-g%C5%AB).


 :yess: UPDATE#2!

His sighting was around 1:30PM on 2010/11/25 FRI.

Just to be sure, did someone want to contact the person to make sure it was pink, and not 'red' lost in translation??
Could be K/V or J/C.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: RichInSydney on November 25, 2010, 11:04:49 PM
Idk Margie and Luke look nothing like Amanda and Kris, niether do Gary/Mallory. Maybe the first leg was a NEL ?
@TSPKM: The first leg was a very long leg split into 2 parts (a TBC leg). Therefore the chances of a NEL for the first leg in Australia would be very slim. There were around 6 spotters at Central station in Sydney for the start of the 2nd leg and no one saw Amanda/Kris. Also no sitings on Qantas or Cathay flights to Tokyo. So I would say from this evidence it is 99.9% certain that Amanda/Kris were eliminated.

Any sitings of Amanda/Kris now may mean they are in 'Sequesterville', a place the eliminated teams stay together until it is ready to go back to the US for the finish line. It would be nice to know where A/K have been spotted cause then we would know where 'Sequesterville' is! :) I would speculated somewhere in SE Asia (Thailand, Vietnam maybe?)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 25, 2010, 11:32:01 PM
Elimination Stations:
TAR 12--Portugal
TAR 13--Acapulco, Mx
TAR 14--Thailand
TAR 15--Vietnam
TAR 16--Puerto Vallerta, Mx
TAR 17--Isla Mujeres, Mx

So probably in SE Asia somewhere.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TeamKandA on November 25, 2010, 11:50:05 PM
Sometimes you get couples that are competent Racers and who do not bicker or say things that drive people crazy.  Like Kris and Amanda. They ran into being U-Turned in their original season, and didn't really make any mistakes leading into it.  They just had the misfortune of being targeted by a blind U-Turn. 
They reminded people during their original season of TAR 6's Kris and Jon, who almost pulled off the win but for some bad advice in booking their final flight back to the U.S. Kris and Jon were strong Racers, never argued, and from all reports to this day, are well liked and generated fond memories from the fans.
That is why some of us liked the fact they were included in this new season and why we're sad that they were apparently the first ones out.

well said. Anyone who has negative things to say about them have no reason as to why. They are a good team and should have had a second chance !
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: michael on November 25, 2010, 11:54:07 PM
Sometimes you get couples that are competent Racers and who do not bicker or say things that drive people crazy.  Like Kris and Amanda. They ran into being U-Turned in their original season, and didn't really make any mistakes leading into it.  They just had the misfortune of being targeted by a blind U-Turn. 
They reminded people during their original season of TAR 6's Kris and Jon, who almost pulled off the win but for some bad advice in booking their final flight back to the U.S. Kris and Jon were strong Racers, never argued, and from all reports to this day, are well liked and generated fond memories from the fans.
That is why some of us liked the fact they were included in this new season and why we're sad that they were apparently the first ones out.

well said. Anyone who has negative things to say about them have no reason as to why. They are a good team and should have had a second chance !

They did have a second chance. It just wasn't meant to be.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 26, 2010, 12:36:51 AM
No personal attacks or teasing each other, please.

Back on topic. So, do we think they'll stay in Japan or continue their journey into Asia?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 26, 2010, 01:07:25 AM
I think it's a 24hrs pitstop and 3rd leg hasn't started yet...since no sightings of Tokyo airport.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dojima on November 26, 2010, 01:22:20 AM
Unless leg 3 is still in Japan.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TeamKandA on November 26, 2010, 01:49:10 AM
I'm not desperate or in denial - I'm hopeful and this is not the right forum to attack someone else on the forum.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 26, 2010, 01:58:06 AM
Okay, enough please! Everyone is entitled to have an opinion about the racers, but you MUST be respectful of each other.

Those of you who know and love a team are going to have to be patient with those who may not feel the same.

Let's try to move on back to discussing THIS race and speculating on THIS race?

:ty3:

Remember that our rules say:

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Have RESPECT for each other, regardless of opinion. This of course includes no flaming/insulting other users and/or their posts. You're more than welcome to express your like or dislike for certain contestant on the show. However, the Racers do join and participate here at RFF, we want them to feel welcome so we ask that you keep that in mind as well. RFF is a fun place and we need your help to keep it that way.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 26, 2010, 02:00:09 AM
If you are having trouble with your quote tags, please be sure to scroll down far enough to post PAST the [/quote] button!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 26, 2010, 03:41:32 AM
Just saw this on Survivorsucks:

Is it me or their Kamakura visit seem too good to be true especially that it's also one of the sites shown in the TAR Wii Game? (The Buddha one...)

Are they actually doing a season just to promote the game?



I think it's possible...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 26, 2010, 04:35:48 AM
Just saw this on Survivorsucks:

Is it me or their Kamakura visit seem too good to be true especially that it's also one of the sites shown in the TAR Wii Game? (The Buddha one...)

Are they actually doing a season just to promote the game?



I think it's possible...

Can someone do a summary of all the locations? ???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NotKaren on November 26, 2010, 04:46:31 AM
Am I crazy enough to buy wii just so I can play the TAR game?... The answer scares me.

I'm expecting India next. Only half of these second chance racers have experienced it before and it was absent in TAR17. The geography nerd in me would still ideally prefer another Asia stop in Qatar or Papua New Guinea or the Maldives, but realistically... that's not going to happen.  

As to Jaime, I'm going to guess that her decision to appear in a certain magazine wasn't very popular.

I can only speak for myself, but: no. I had NO clue what she's been up to until I read it here a couple of days ago, I only really keep track of racers I like. I would never hold a nude pictorial against any woman, we're in the 21st century and damn well allowed to do whatever we please and I support that.

To answer the original question, I'll let TWOP's recap do the job for me:

As they head out to the street to find a cab, Jaime finds a way to be obnoxious even during this relatively simple transaction. After Cara asks a cabbie if the unmarked car he's driving is "an official taxi," she says, "It's a BMW, I doubt it." Come to Thailand, and bring your Western cultural assumptions with you! They go over to ask a cop for corroboration, and Jaime gets all yelly when the cop wants to talk to someone else. "Stop talking to him! Listen! Listen, stop talking!" Alas, she is not arrested on the spot. In an interview, she says that she's so frustrated by the language barrier that "I become a lunatic. And there's nothing I can do to stop it. It's like Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde." Nothing? Learning another language might help. Or, hey, I've got an even better idea for avoiding problems with language barriers: don't go on The Amazing Race.


I have never had an ounce of respect for any racer who's annoyed at people around the world having the GALL to not speak English in order to accommodate their winning a million bucks. Jaime is not as bad as KKKendra, but they're both Ugly Americans.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: metalent on November 26, 2010, 04:50:28 AM
the Eiffel tower
Red Square
Toronto
Egypt
Emirate of Dubai
Easter Island
Kampuchea(Cambodia)
Taj Mahal, India
China
Maya
president hill
Japen of cos

and some places I don't know

I think at least 5 destinations appear on the video

====================

soooooooo , I think the next place may be China or  Cambodia
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NotKaren on November 26, 2010, 04:53:18 AM
Thank you, metalent!

Some of those they've done before and I think it's safe to exclude Russia for this season since they've just had a double leg there last season and half of these racers have also raced in Russia in their original season.

Easter Island... if ONLY. It's a very sensitive ecosystem, I'm not sure they'd ever get permission to haul the crew around.

Maya? I'm assuming Mayan temples? Yes, please, I'd love to see Central America this time. Not sure if the weather's right for a December race though.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 26, 2010, 05:16:04 AM
Egypt please! :hearts: 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 26, 2010, 05:23:34 AM
Easter Island... if ONLY. It's a very sensitive ecosystem, I'm not sure they'd ever get permission to haul the crew around.

Are you sure of this. I know of no travel restrictions to Easter Island. Is it possible you are thinking of the Galapagos off the coast of Ecuador?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 26, 2010, 05:25:15 AM
Egypt please! :hearts: 

Yes.....this time on the east bank of the Nile and train ride to Alexandria.......
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: topaz on November 26, 2010, 05:44:01 AM
what about Jaime and Cara? :(
those freaking cheerleaders who complain them that the locals can't speak English?  Heck probably they're the last one to arrive at the pit stop and they have difficulties on communicating with the Japanese locals there.  I wish they'd been eliminated there or else... (:;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: topaz on November 26, 2010, 05:50:20 AM
Unless leg 3 is still in Japan.
actually, they're hopefully still be in Japan for leg 4, and if they're still on the Tokyo metropolitan area for now they should be visit and race to Akihabara district, its the famous place for many animes, mangas and video games and it's known as the otaku capital of the world.  And surely that place will be a jampacked by tomorrow and Sunday and probably the Japanese media there will be easily to spot them for sure besides ordinary people who wants to take relax there during weekend. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: laimis on November 26, 2010, 05:59:20 AM
Kampuchea means Cambodia right?
That will be nice to visit Cambodia ^ ^
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tutorial on November 26, 2010, 06:13:54 AM
If there's any tip that they are at Amsterdam from 10th to 13th December or Lithuania on the 15th to 20th December, or if they are in London, I would fly there now.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: milanissimo on November 26, 2010, 06:33:47 AM
Egypt please! :hearts:  

Yes.....this time on the east bank of the Nile and train ride to Alexandria.......

Egypt :colors :colors
I think is better Hurgada or  Sharm El -Sheikn along the red sea...,beautiful places,beautiful sea(Especially Sharm ) and every day there are a lot of flights From/to European countries
I think It's possible...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mad_joe on November 26, 2010, 06:39:12 AM
 :'( :'(  I'm so pissed right now,why there are no other valuable spoilers coming out?Japanese fans,please  :meow:

it's almost 9:40 pm in Tokyo,if it was a 24-hour mandatory period of rest,first couples of teams should have been running again  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 26, 2010, 06:56:14 AM
Egypt please! :hearts:  

Yes.....this time on the east bank of the Nile and train ride to Alexandria.......

Egypt :colors :colors
I think is better Hurgada or  Sharm El -Sheikn along the red sea...,beautiful places,beautiful sea(Especially Sharm ) and every day there are a lot of flights From/to European countries
I think It's possible...

Since they are racing east to west......I doubt very seriously they would turn around when they got to Europe and then fly back to Egypt.....anywhere in Egypt. It really doesn't make much sense. When they are finished in Europe, they will head to N America
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: milanissimo on November 26, 2010, 07:13:33 AM
Egypt please! :hearts:  

Yes.....this time on the east bank of the Nile and train ride to Alexandria.......

Egypt :colors :colors
I think is better Hurgada or  Sharm El -Sheikn along the red sea...,beautiful places,beautiful sea(Especially Sharm ) and every day there are a lot of flights From/to European countries
I think It's possible...

Since they are racing east to west......I doubt very seriously they would turn around when they got to Europe and then fly back to Egypt.....anywhere in Egypt. It really doesn't make much sense. When they are finished in Europe, they will head to N America

..I know...in fact I said .. before Egypt   and then Europe..
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TexasLady on November 26, 2010, 07:36:03 AM
:'( :'(  I'm so pissed right now,why there are no other valuable spoilers coming out?Japanese fans,please  :meow:

it's almost 9:40 pm in Tokyo,if it was a 24-hour mandatory period of rest,first couples of teams should have been running again  :duno:

The RFF detectives will find them if it's humanly possible.  :lol:

Welcome to RFF mad_joe!

 :welcome2:

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: metalent on November 26, 2010, 07:43:19 AM
Kampuchea means Cambodia right?
That will be nice to visit Cambodia ^ ^
YES!!
I am not from a English-speaking country.Kampuchea may means Cambodia.
last night,i dreamt that they would go to Phnom Penh.
It is really  :hearts: :hearts: :jumpy: :jumpy: :wohoo: :wohoo:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mad_joe on November 26, 2010, 08:10:09 AM
:'( :'(  I'm so pissed right now,why there are no other valuable spoilers coming out?Japanese fans,please  :meow:

it's almost 9:40 pm in Tokyo,if it was a 24-hour mandatory period of rest,first couples of teams should have been running again  :duno:

The RFF detectives will find them if it's humanly possible.  :lol:

Welcome to RFF mad_joe!

 :welcome2:



thanks,man,I'm new here,but feel really excited that there are so many people into TAR  :hearts: :wohoo:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: docol on November 26, 2010, 08:48:25 AM
Why not just have the whole cast of season 14 come back? :res:

THAT WOULD BE GREAT.........!!!!!!  :hearts: :colors :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: boy mascubado on November 26, 2010, 09:06:20 AM
let me speculate that production team planned for a Korean leg and just what recently happened between North and South Kor. Things have change. They cant visit china for now because somewhere they have on going Asian games. My wild guess is they'll comeback down to somewhere in Southeast Asia. LAOS, THAILAND or BRUNEI.. just my thoughts..   B:) B:) :keeta:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kiki on November 26, 2010, 09:17:59 AM
let me speculate that production team planned for a Korean leg and just what recently happened between North and South Kor. Things have change. They cant visit china for now because somewhere they have on going Asian games. My wild guess is they'll comeback down to somewhere in Southeast Asia. LAOS, THAILAND or BRUNEI.. just my thoughts..   B:) B:) :keeta:

They did Korea in season 17. It' s unlikely they would it twice in a row. Besides they have probably planned all the tasks mpnths in advance and a last minute change it;s very difficult.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 26, 2010, 09:44:22 AM
what about Jaime and Cara? :(
those freaking cheerleaders who complain them that the locals can't speak English?  Heck probably they're the last one to arrive at the pit stop and they have difficulties on communicating with the Japanese locals there.  I wish they'd been eliminated there or else... (:;)

They probably won't make the F3 this year.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on November 26, 2010, 09:52:25 AM
Gawd, I hope they are *NOT* going to South Korea right now...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 26, 2010, 09:56:07 AM
Gawd, I hope they are *NOT* going to South Korea right now...

Why?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on November 26, 2010, 10:07:12 AM
Gawd, I hope they are *NOT* going to South Korea right now...

Why?
It seems rather dangerous due to the military tension between the north and the south... If you were the producer, and if you had scheduled Seoul to be the next pitstop, what would y'all do?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 26, 2010, 10:09:18 AM
 :(
Gawd, I hope they are *NOT* going to South Korea right now...

Why?
:ascared NO not SouthKorea!! That would be horrible with a near war breaking out! I would hope that they always have a plan B for safety!! That wouldnt be good at ALL! You really dont think they would RISK that , DO U?
The possibility of accidental deaths would surely keep them away from there!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on November 26, 2010, 10:26:46 AM
:(
Gawd, I hope they are *NOT* going to South Korea right now...

Why?
:ascared NO not SouthKorea!! That would be horrible with a near war breaking out! I would hope that they always have a plan B for safety!! That wouldnt be good at ALL! You really dont think they would RISK that , DO U?
The possibility of accidental deaths would surely keep them away from there!

Totally agreed. If I were Bertram/Elise - presumably travelling with Phil - I would scramble for plan B.
The US Embassy in South Korea has not issued a travel ban yet, but they have released this note on 2010/11/23 (http://seoul.usembassy.gov/p_emb_112310.html).

On the same note, here is the link to the US State Dept's Current Travel Warnings (http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_1764.html). It would be safe to say that say none of these countries will be on the race course for TAR18.

BTW, does anyone know if a graphical timeline of TAR races juxtaposed with major international news (like the Indian Ocean tsunami and what not) exists?  Of course the news would have to be related to things that happened along the race course.  That would be interesting.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: selkie on November 26, 2010, 10:27:43 AM

I'm expecting India next. Only half of these second chance racers have experienced it before and it was absent in TAR17. The geography nerd in me would still ideally prefer another Asia stop in Qatar or Papua New Guinea or the Maldives, but realistically... that's not going to happen.  


I suspect the Papua New Guinea would be a no-go because it would be prohibitively expensive to insure any filming in that country. Same goes for Egypt, which seems to have gotten decidedly more dangerous since they last Raced through there. I'm expecting India next too, though will always hold out hope for Bhutan because it's got such an interesting history and normally restricts tourism so tightly.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 26, 2010, 10:34:38 AM
:(
Gawd, I hope they are *NOT* going to South Korea right now...

Why?
:ascared NO not SouthKorea!! That would be horrible with a near war breaking out! I would hope that they always have a plan B for safety!! That wouldnt be good at ALL! You really dont think they would RISK that , DO U?
The possibility of accidental deaths would surely keep them away from there!

Totally agreed. If I were Bertram/Elise - presumably travelling with Phil - I would scramble for plan B.
The US Embassy in South Korea has not issued a travel ban yet, but they have released this note on 2010/11/23 (http://seoul.usembassy.gov/p_emb_112310.html).

BTW, does anyone know if a graphical timeline of TAR races juxtaposed with major international news (like the Indian Ocean tsunami and what not) exists?  Of course the news would have to be related to things that happened along the race course.  That would be interesting.

:jam: :jam: I think we are on to something!! An amazing race Idea where they go thru these countys that are shooting at each other....... To Race thru them and make it to the end without being shot,,,,, back packs would include bullet proof vests, night vision goggles , etc...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on November 26, 2010, 10:36:42 AM
:jam: :jam: I think we are on to something!! An amazing race Idea where they go thru these countys that are shooting at each other....... To Race thru them and make it to the end without being shot,,,,, back packs would include bullet proof vests, night vision goggles , etc...

Yeah right  (:;)
You wish!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 26, 2010, 10:39:38 AM
:jam: :jam: I think we are on to something!! An amazing race Idea where they go thru these countys that are shooting at each other....... To Race thru them and make it to the end without being shot,,,,, back packs would include bullet proof vests, night vision goggles , etc...

Yeah right  (:;)
You wish!

Ok maybe you are right it would be more like a "swat team amazing race" they could rescue people along the way and take them to the safety of a pit stop!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Belle Book on November 26, 2010, 10:44:54 AM
I think the main reason people hated Jaime so much is because she was so rude to the locals, especially the cab drivers!  In retrospect, the scenes with her being so rude may well have been a sign that she & Cara wouldn't win -- an editing sign, that is.

Anyway, I doubt that even if there wasn't such tension between North & South Korea that the teams would go there again -- not so soon after having a leg in South Korea this season, that is.  But I'd love to see the teams in Laos -- they'd never gone there before.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on November 26, 2010, 11:05:42 AM
:jam: :jam: I think we are on to something!! An amazing race Idea where they go thru these countys that are shooting at each other....... To Race thru them and make it to the end without being shot,,,,, back packs would include bullet proof vests, night vision goggles , etc...

Yeah right  (:;)
You wish!

Ok maybe you are right it would be more like a "swat team amazing race" they could rescue people along the way and take them to the safety of a pit stop!!

Anyone from the Discover Channel reading this?  There's an idea for a new show, right there!  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gl14 on November 26, 2010, 11:06:11 AM
Just saw this on Survivorsucks:

Is it me or their Kamakura visit seem too good to be true especially that it's also one of the sites shown in the TAR Wii Game? (The Buddha one...)

Are they actually doing a season just to promote the game?



I think it's possible...

I had previously mentioned that I found it funny that the majority of the teams featured on the cover of the Wii video game were participating in season 18. so who knows, further promotion for the game.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: boy mascubado on November 26, 2010, 11:17:13 AM
got a strong feeling that they will visit the country that i'm located right now.. camera's ready...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 26, 2010, 11:26:13 AM
Phil has mentioned b4 that the producers always have 2 or 3 alternate routes they can send teams on in the case of violence in a destination country.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 26, 2010, 11:26:39 AM
got a strong feeling that they will visit the country that i'm located right now.. camera's ready...

Mind if I ask where that is?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: boy mascubado on November 26, 2010, 11:31:03 AM
Clue... since this country still hadn't been visited (its about time since right now they struggle a little bit in their tourism industry) and an good transition from South Asia to Europe or Mideast... Experts will know my IP add is.. ;) ;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 26, 2010, 11:38:57 AM
Clue... since this country still hadn't been visited (its about time since right now they struggle a little bit in their tourism industry) and an good transition from South Asia to Europe or Mideast... Experts will know my IP add is.. ;) ;)


Aaaahhhh as exciting as this is,Im terrible at Geography!lol more clues?Someone will guess this easily and I still won't have a clue :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 26, 2010, 11:40:14 AM
Clue... since this country still hadn't been visited (its about time since right now they struggle a little bit in their tourism industry) and an good transition from South Asia to Europe or Mideast... Experts will know my IP add is.. ;) ;)


Aaaahhhh as exciting as this is,Im terrible at Geography!lol more clues?Someone will guess this easily and I still won't have a clue :)

I'm still trying 2 figure out what boy is trying to convey.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NotKaren on November 26, 2010, 11:43:10 AM
I'm not worried about Korea, it's not one of the countries they'd visit back to back on the Race.

I suspect the Papua New Guinea would be a no-go because it would be prohibitively expensive to insure any filming in that country. Same goes for Egypt, which seems to have gotten decidedly more dangerous since they last Raced through there. I'm expecting India next too, though will always hold out hope for Bhutan because it's got such an interesting history and normally restricts tourism so tightly.

Is insurance any easier to sort out for Bhutan? From what I remember reading about these restrictions, you also have to pony up quite a sum upfront for each day spent in the country and given its location, you can't schedule a leg with only three teams to limit costs there. Hopefully they'd make the restrictions laxer for TAR because I'd be glued to the TV for that. Has the race even climbed that high? I know the air is rarefied in Bolivia as well, but I'm not sure the racers were at such literally dizzying heights for more than a few hours.

Why do people hate Jaime and Cara so much? Who cares if Jaime was rude to foreigners?

Jaime and Cara love <3

Please tell me my sarcasm meter is failing me... Since when is rudeness condoned in general, let alone when you're a guest in a foreign country? Is shoving and abusing your wife also OK as long as you're on a race on TV and you're stressed out, hungry and tired? Do tell.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mad_joe on November 26, 2010, 11:43:28 AM
Clue... since this country still hadn't been visited (its about time since right now they struggle a little bit in their tourism industry) and an good transition from South Asia to Europe or Mideast... Experts will know my IP add is.. ;) ;)

Maldives? :neener: :neener:but I seriously doubt they would go to there...in my opinion,it's better they come to China today,and then fly to Central Asia or other neighbourhood countries of Russia,before they head to Europe,Africa and South America for the second last leg
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 26, 2010, 11:47:37 AM
Why do people hate Jaime and Cara so much? Who cares if Jaime was rude to foreigners?

Jaime and Cara love <3

Please tell me my sarcasm meter is failing me... Since when is rudeness condoned in general, let alone when you're a guest in a foreign country? Is shoving and abusing your wife also OK as long as you're on a race on TV and you're stressed out, hungry and tired? Do tell.

Well said!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: boy mascubado on November 26, 2010, 11:53:10 AM
Clue... since this country still hadn't been visited (its about time since right now they struggle a little bit in their tourism industry) and an good transition from South Asia to Europe or Mideast... Experts will know my IP add is.. ;) ;)


Aaaahhhh as exciting as this is,Im terrible at Geography!lol more clues?Someone will guess this easily and I still won't have a clue :)

I'm still trying 2 figure out what boy is trying to convey.

Just have this strong speculation that they might visit this country where im located right now.. Okay Maldives is the place. Its near India and Sri Lanka. Since it hasnt been visited i've just got this gut feeling they gonna include this season.
Clue... since this country still hadn't been visited (its about time since right now they struggle a little bit in their tourism industry) and an good transition from South Asia to Europe or Mideast... Experts will know my IP add is.. ;) ;)

Maldives? :neener: :neener:but I seriously doubt they would go to there...in my opinion,it's better they come to China today,and then fly to Central Asia or other neighbourhood countries of Russia,before they head to Europe,Africa and South America for the second last leg
Clue... since this country still hadn't been visited (its about time since right now they struggle a little bit in their tourism industry) and an good transition from South Asia to Europe or Mideast... Experts will know my IP add is.. ;) ;)

Maldives? :neener: :neener:but I seriously doubt they would go to there...in my opinion,it's better they come to China today,and then fly to Central Asia or other neighbourhood countries of Russia,before they head to Europe,Africa and South America for the second last leg
Clue... since this country still hadn't been visited (its about time since right now they struggle a little bit in their tourism industry) and an good transition from South Asia to Europe or Mideast... Experts will know my IP add is.. ;) ;)

Maldives? :neener: :neener:but I seriously doubt they would go to there...in my opinion,it's better they come to China today,and then fly to Central Asia or other neighbourhood countries of Russia,before they head to Europe,Africa and South America for the second last leg

see guys here have all the expertise in this forum :jam:.. China? they'll all busy in there Asian games right now. So thats why i strongly speculate they coming back down to South east Asia then move to South Asia, transition from a Mideast country before goin to Europe coun try. IMO..
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 26, 2010, 12:01:29 PM

see guys here have all the expertise in this forum :jam:.. China? they'll all busy in there Asian games right now. So thats why i strongly speculate they coming back down to South east Asia then move to South Asia, transition from a Mideast country before goin to Europe coun try. IMO..

Interesting idea...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Heliox on November 26, 2010, 12:06:36 PM
Clue... since this country still hadn't been visited (its about time since right now they struggle a little bit in their tourism industry) and an good transition from South Asia to Europe or Mideast... Experts will know my IP add is.. ;) ;)

Maldives? :neener: :neener:but I seriously doubt they would go to there...in my opinion,it's better they come to China today,and then fly to Central Asia or other neighbourhood countries of Russia,before they head to Europe,Africa and South America for the second last leg
a Co-worker was in Bhutan recently and she paid $250 per day just to be in the country. Steep, but it apparently includes some things (not sure .. food or lodging) I don't know if Bhutan would really want the attention. They seem to quite like their relative anonymity on the world stage. Having said that she said it was spectacular. And I would love to see the teams go there if they were able.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: krabbe on November 26, 2010, 12:29:21 PM
Yeah, although Bhutan would be nice, I think it's going to be prohibitively expensive, $200/day for each person. The price includes everything (food & lodging), but still. Not to mention the red tape that goes along with the hefty price tag. The government slapped each tourist such a high price because they don't want tourism in their country in the first place. I doubt they'll be willing to cooperate with a race-travel show. But here's hoping! :jam:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 26, 2010, 12:48:40 PM
Yeah, although Bhutan would be nice, I think it's going to be prohibitively expensive, $200/day for each person. The price includes everything (food & lodging), but still. Not to mention the red tape that goes along with the hefty price tag. The government slapped each tourist such a high price because they don't want tourism in their country in the first place. I doubt they'll be willing to cooperate with a race-travel show. But here's hoping! :jam:

Makes sense!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 26, 2010, 01:12:54 PM
My sister visited the Maldives as part of her honeymoon.The photos were stunning-now that'd be nice to see in HD.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: allie303 on November 26, 2010, 03:31:52 PM
What about Sri Lanka? Is that also a possibility?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 26, 2010, 06:06:12 PM
see guys here have all the expertise in this forum :jam:.. China? they'll all busy in there Asian games right now. So thats why i strongly speculate they coming back down to South east Asia then move to South Asia, transition from a Mideast country before goin to Europe coun try. IMO..

Asian Games held in Guangzhou,they can still go to other places of China(other places not busy at all)...And,Asian Games is over yesterday...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: The Queen V on November 26, 2010, 06:08:03 PM
China? they'll all busy in there Asian games right now.

which allows tar to hold a leg or two in the country without being spotted so much...

So thats why i strongly speculate they coming back down to South east Asia then move to South Asia, transition from a Mideast country before goin to Europe country. IMO..

what i can think of only possibilities would be laos (first visit?), philippines (there's a travel warning), indonesia (first visit) or brunei (first visit). im not leaning on the other countries.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on November 26, 2010, 06:47:18 PM
They can come to Singapore if they want, I would be ready with a camera at the airport.  :neener:
Terminal 3 Belt 48?  :spy:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 26, 2010, 08:55:19 PM
China? they'll all busy in there Asian games right now.

which allows tar to hold a leg or two in the country without being spotted so much...

So thats why i strongly speculate they coming back down to South east Asia then move to South Asia, transition from a Mideast country before goin to Europe country. IMO..

what i can think of only possibilities would be laos (first visit?), philippines (there's a travel warning), indonesia (first visit) or brunei (first visit). im not leaning on the other countries.

I didn't think that there is currently a travel warning here in the Philippines?  :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 26, 2010, 09:25:00 PM
I just see read about spoiler TAR 18 and really amazed me.. Sound exciting on TAR 18.. I have nothing for much talk.. sorri..   :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 26, 2010, 09:31:51 PM
I think they may have 2nd leg in japan racing at Yokohama...and if they raced at night(they often have a leg racing at night recent season),maybe not so many sighting...just Speculation
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SuzuKen on November 26, 2010, 10:19:08 PM
South East Asia is a stong possiblity this time around. (Thailand anyone?)

Well, I'm currently in Phuket/Similans and would be keeping my eyes out for them. Dunno how I'll update since I won't have Internet most of the time… IF there're any sightings, I wldn't be able to do livesightings >.<
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 26, 2010, 10:55:19 PM
South East Asia is a stong possiblity this time around. (Thailand anyone?)

Well, I'm currently in Phuket/Similans and would be keeping my eyes out for them. Dunno how I'll update since I won't have Internet most of the time… IF there're any sightings, I wldn't be able to do livesightings >.<

There is nothing around here that says you have to do live sightings. If you see them.......then try to take some pics and remember the place and time.......its just that simple........and post when you get internet access again........have fun in Phuket....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 26, 2010, 11:47:49 PM
I really hope we get a sighting soon!

Also,I don't know if this is the right thread to ask this question,so if I'm in the wrong,moderators please move it. Can anyone tell me which season of TAR has been the most spoiled on RFF?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 26, 2010, 11:52:39 PM
I really hope we get a sighting soon!

Also,I don't know if this is the right thread to ask this question,so if I'm in the wrong,moderators please move it. Can anyone tell me which season of TAR has been the most spoiled on RFF?
It depends on how you measure the spoiling of a season. For example, we had a detailed boot list for Season 11, but it depends if you measure it according to contestants, tasks or destinations.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 27, 2010, 12:00:01 AM
I really hope we get a sighting soon!

Also,I don't know if this is the right thread to ask this question,so if I'm in the wrong,moderators please move it. Can anyone tell me which season of TAR has been the most spoiled on RFF?
It depends on how you measure the spoiling of a season. For example, we had a detailed boot list for Season 11, but it depends if you measure it according to contestants, tasks or destinations.

I meant elimination wise so season 11 it would be :) thank you!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 27, 2010, 02:39:25 AM
2 photos from our friend who spotted the teams in Kamakura at Tsurugaoka Hachiman-gu Shrine at around 1:30PM on Friday 11/25/10.
:hearts:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Japan/TAR18KamakuroShrineJapan.jpg)(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Japan/TAR18KamakuraShrineJapan.jpg)



Shadows are pointing in opposite directions - not a Pit Stop then?

LaKisha/Jen look like they're running out, Jet/Cord running in. Sun should be slightly west of due south.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 27, 2010, 03:17:33 AM
jasteo: transiting at hk airport and bumped into the amazing race film crew! eggcited!
6 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhone

possibly they're the crew in charge of tasks for the next location.

and without sightings until now, it's pretty much leaning to a double leg in japan i think...


You may be right.Oh,I wish there were more sightings in Japan!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 27, 2010, 03:30:00 AM

possibly they're the crew in charge of tasks for the next location.

and without sightings until now, it's pretty much leaning to a double leg in japan i think...


They could also be the crew that was left to clean up things AFTER the teams left Japan.....we really dont know what it is.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on November 27, 2010, 04:05:24 AM
Not to Brunei.

(http://i53.[banned image hosting site].com/eb4kts.png)

Might not be a real spoiler though. Need more confirmation.. but offering the map just in case.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: boy mascubado on November 27, 2010, 04:10:04 AM
Not to Brunei.

(http://i53.[banned image hosting site].com/eb4kts.png)

Might not be a real spoiler though. Need more confirmation.. but offering the map just in case.

whoope hope my speculations were right... given a 3 country guess!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 27, 2010, 04:10:40 AM
What's with all the cars with stickers on their sides in the Belait District? Amazing Race?
5 minutes ago via Echofon
 This tweeter is from Brunei
Thanks kinibug!!!
Anytime :) I was just about to say that that's in Brunei...interesting.Has TAR ever been there before?


They went to Kota Kinabalu in TAR 3..........which is in Malaysian Borneo

kb might be Kuala Belait.........That coast is pretty famous for oil production.....the reason the Japanese captured it during WWII.


Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: boy mascubado on November 27, 2010, 04:13:09 AM
What's with all the cars with stickers on their sides in the Belait District? Amazing Race?
5 minutes ago via Echofon
 

This tweeter is from Brunei


Thanks kinibug!!!

Anytime :) I was just about to say that that's in Brunei...interesting.Has TAR ever been there before?

neither TAR or TARA visited their. I wonder why they did not drop by their when they visit Kota KInabalu..
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on November 27, 2010, 04:14:17 AM
Kota Kinabalu is part of Malaysia.. while Borneo is part of Brunei.. ohh, geography lesson learnt today. I always thought Borneo's part of Malaysia! :-[

I don't think physically TAR has stepped into Brunei.. but again, all these are speculation.. i searched and poked my head around and didn't find anything else about TAR in Brunei.. :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 27, 2010, 04:21:26 AM
Even though none of this is slam dunk yet it just feels good to have some
sort of a lead.I wish people would reply on Twitter faster lol.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on November 27, 2010, 04:23:16 AM
Kota Kinabalu is part of Malaysia.. while Borneo is part of Brunei.. ohh, geography lesson learnt today. I always thought Borneo's part of Malaysia! :-[

I don't think physically TAR has stepped into Brunei.. but again, all these are speculation.. i searched and poked my head around and didn't find anything else about TAR in Brunei.. :(

Borneo is just a really big island.  Part belongs to Sultan of Brunei, part to Malaysia and part to Indonesia.

It is probably a local thing.....the TAR part
:groan: Yea, i just figured out! More geography lessons! :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mad_joe on November 27, 2010, 04:24:36 AM
I checked the schedule of fights,there actually was a direct one from Hong Kong to the capital of Brunei Bandar Seri Begawan,departure time is 2:40 pm,which could make sense that someone did witnessed the production team in HK airport this afternoon around 2 pm  :'( :'( :'(

which kills me is if the teams really made connected flight in HK,then they probably not gonna come to the mainland of China this season,it really sucks!!! :knuckles: :knuckles:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ZBC Company on November 27, 2010, 04:30:09 AM
Wow good jobs guys mother heard of that country
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 27, 2010, 04:42:37 AM
Nice.So maybe all the teams had boarded their flights and production was rushing to catch theirs?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 27, 2010, 04:50:38 AM
Nice.So maybe all the teams had boarded their flights and production was rushing to catch theirs?

There is two production crews.......they flip flop the places.......while one is cleaning up in Japan......another one is already on the ground in the next place. Then the japaness crew will go forward to where they are going and be ready when they get there......if that makes sense.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 27, 2010, 05:12:43 AM
Nice.So maybe all the teams had boarded their flights and production was rushing to catch theirs?

There is two production crews.......they flip flop the places.......while one is cleaning up in Japan......another one is already on the ground in the next place. Then the japaness crew will go forward to where they are going and be ready when they get there......if that makes sense.

sorry,I'm slightly confused.Wouldn't there be another crew that would be with the teams?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 27, 2010, 05:24:18 AM
Okay.........here it is maybe simpler........they had one crew in Australia setting up those two legs...........at the same time....one crew was in Japan setting up that leg(s). When the teams flew to Japan......they went with their cameraman/soundman team.....maybe a couple of Production ASSTs.....BVM and Elise travel too.....then the Aussie crew went to what ever comes after Japan...lets call it Country XX.....when teams leave Japan for Country XX.........the Japanese crew will fly to Country YY.....and start setting that up......does that make more sense?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on November 27, 2010, 05:25:50 AM
Okay.........here it is maybe simpler........they had one crew in Australia setting up those two legs...........at the same time....one crew was in Japan setting up that leg(s). When the teams flew to Japan......they went with their cameraman/soundman team.....maybe a couple of Production ASSTs.....BVM and Elise travel too.....then the Aussie crew went to what ever comes after Japan...lets call it Country XX.....when teams leave Japan for Country XX.........the Japanese crew will fly to Country YY.....and start setting that up......does that make more sense?

 :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 27, 2010, 05:32:05 AM
Okay.........here it is maybe simpler........they had one crew in Australia setting up those two legs...........at the same time....one crew was in Japan setting up that leg(s). When the teams flew to Japan......they went with their cameraman/soundman team.....maybe a couple of Production ASSTs.....BVM and Elise travel too.....then the Aussie crew went to what ever comes after Japan...lets call it Country XX.....when teams leave Japan for Country XX.........the Japanese crew will fly to Country YY.....and start setting that up......does that make more sense?

yes!Thank you!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 27, 2010, 05:43:32 AM
Okay.........here it is maybe simpler........they had one crew in Australia setting up those two legs...........at the same time....one crew was in Japan setting up that leg(s). When the teams flew to Japan......they went with their cameraman/soundman team.....maybe a couple of Production ASSTs.....BVM and Elise travel too.....then the Aussie crew went to what ever comes after Japan...lets call it Country XX.....when teams leave Japan for Country XX.........the Japanese crew will fly to Country YY.....and start setting that up......does that make more sense?
If so,I think XX is China since they transmit at HongKong...YY is a country in southeast Asia...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mad_joe on November 27, 2010, 08:29:48 AM
it's driving me freaking nuts,where the heck are the teams right now  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 27, 2010, 08:32:12 AM
it's driving me freaking nuts,where the heck are the teams right now  :'( :'( :'(

:lol: This is the effect of the major spoilage in Sydney. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on November 27, 2010, 08:36:37 AM
it's driving me freaking nuts,where the heck are the teams right now  :'( :'( :'(

:lol: This is the effect of the major spoilage in Sydney. :lol:

 :groan:

Sorry for flying up there and following them around then!

 :colealert:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 27, 2010, 08:39:56 AM
it's driving me freaking nuts,where the heck are the teams right now  :'( :'( :'(

:lol: This is the effect of the major spoilage in Sydney. :lol:

 :groan:

Sorry for flying up there and following them around then!

 :colealert:

No! I don't blame you Coutzy! :'( I meant that we got excited and then that excitement went downhill because the teams are now atm hard to be traced.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 27, 2010, 08:43:17 AM
it's driving me freaking nuts,where the heck are the teams right now  :'( :'( :'(

:lol: This is the effect of the major spoilage in Sydney. :lol:

 :groan:

Sorry for flying up there and following them around then!

 :colealert:

No! I don't blame you Coutzy! :'( I meant that we got excited and then that excitement went downhill because the teams are now atm hard to be traced.

I agree, we had to know that we were going to have to come down off of that. The fun part will be connecting where they resurface to Tokyo.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 27, 2010, 08:48:49 AM
More of a contextual translation (I'm not 100% sure):

Since morning [something about Americans]. I told a superior during break: "Isn't it The Amazing Race?!" It was an American Show that I watched last month in Cairns. The parent & child I talked to boarded the HP [or boarded in HP].

Thanks Danooky!! We never would have figured that one out, Google is terrible with Asian languages.  :lol:

It seems like that this person may have seen the Race on the way to work and confirmed it by asking a superior. I wonder of there was a possible double stop in Japan b/c this seems too delayed to be from the 25th.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on November 27, 2010, 08:52:11 AM
More of a contextual translation (I'm not 100% sure):

Since morning [something about Americans]. I told a superior during break: "Isn't it The Amazing Race?!" It was an American Show that I watched last month in Cairns. The parent & child I talked to boarded the HP [or boarded in HP].

Thanks Danooky!! We never would have figured that one out, Google is terrible with Asian languages.  :lol:

It seems like that this person may have seen the Race on the way to work and confirmed it by asking a superior. I wonder of there was a possible double stop in Japan b/c this seems too delayed to be from the 25th.

Gary and Mallory?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mad_joe on November 27, 2010, 09:05:17 AM
any other new updates?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 27, 2010, 09:52:58 AM
More of a contextual translation (I'm not 100% sure):

Since morning [something about Americans]. I told a superior during break: "Isn't it The Amazing Race?!" It was an American Show that I watched last month in Cairns. The parent & child I talked to boarded the HP [or boarded in HP].

Thanks Danooky!! We never would have figured that one out, Google is terrible with Asian languages.  :lol:

It seems like that this person may have seen the Race on the way to work and confirmed it by asking a superior. I wonder of there was a possible double stop in Japan b/c this seems too delayed to be from the 25th.

Gary and Mallory?

Or Margie and Luke, those are the only choices right?.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on November 27, 2010, 10:02:05 AM
More of a contextual translation (I'm not 100% sure):

Since morning [something about Americans]. I told a superior during break: "Isn't it The Amazing Race?!" It was an American Show that I watched last month in Cairns. The parent & child I talked to boarded the HP [or boarded in HP].

Thanks Danooky!! We never would have figured that one out, Google is terrible with Asian languages.  :lol:

It seems like that this person may have seen the Race on the way to work and confirmed it by asking a superior. I wonder of there was a possible double stop in Japan b/c this seems too delayed to be from the 25th.

Gary and Mallory?

Or Margie and Luke, those are the only choices right?.

Yes, but the better translation states that they are up on the website right now, so that would mean Gary and Mallory.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 27, 2010, 11:21:58 AM
I'm sure they are in Kunming,China!!!I have photos!!!Already sent to peach!!!

The race always finds a way to set the gingers back to their homeland. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dojima on November 27, 2010, 11:34:31 AM
If it is Kunming/LiJiang, I can see the high altitude come into play on how well the teams do.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: krabbe on November 27, 2010, 11:41:34 AM
Lijiang is very touristy, so hopefully there will be sightings. & the nearest international airport from there is Kunming, so maybe they'll go back there again to fly out of the country.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Levi Rinno on November 27, 2010, 01:19:49 PM
hey guys I am new,a Chinese TAR Fan
My friend from Kumming via QQ mobile told me,shes  was in a train station before and saw,theres english men with cameras there.they were following an asian grandpa and a japanesse look alike girl,a blonde girl with a guy. and 2 black woman.
This would mean Ronald & Christina, Gary & Mallory, and Kisha & Jen are still alive and kicking.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 27, 2010, 01:25:08 PM
 ;)
I'm sure they are in Kunming,China!!!I have photos!!!Already sent to peach!!!

The race always finds a way to set the gingers back to their homeland. :lol:
Im still trying to figure out the lingo on this site........ what is the "gingers" americans??
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Levi Rinno on November 27, 2010, 01:29:35 PM
;)
I'm sure they are in Kunming,China!!!I have photos!!!Already sent to peach!!!

The race always finds a way to set the gingers back to their homeland. :lol:
Im still trying to figure out the lingo on this site........ what is the "gingers" americans??
Jaime & Cara, the redheaded cheerleaders from TAR14.  China was their hardest country to get through due to Jaime not adjusting well enough to the language barrier.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 27, 2010, 01:59:50 PM
hey guys I am new,a Chinese TAR Fan
My friend from Kumming via QQ mobile told me,shes  was in a train station before and saw,theres english men with cameras there.they were following an asian grandpa and a japanesse look alike girl,a blonde girl with a guy. and 2 black woman.
This would mean Ronald & Christina, Gary & Mallory, and Kisha & Jen are still alive and kicking.

 :hearts: :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 27, 2010, 02:04:59 PM
Jaime & Cara, the redheaded cheerleaders from TAR14.  China was their hardest country to get through due to Jaime not adjusting well enough to the language barrier.

I can tell you Lijiang is more more more difficult than Beijing... :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 27, 2010, 02:06:47 PM
All I care if Kynt and Vyxsin get to the next leg.

If they're out there, they'll surely b spotted.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 27, 2010, 02:18:07 PM
What about Margie and Luke? and both elimination? or not?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 27, 2010, 02:25:29 PM
What about Margie and Luke? and both elimination? or not?

Since they don't have a obvious feature on appearance than other teams.I think we should worry cowboy,basketball player,goth more.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 27, 2010, 02:26:41 PM
What about Margie and Luke? and both elimination? or not?

Since they don't have a obvious feature on appearance than other teams.I think we should worry cowboy,basketball player,goth more.

Very true. Only a maximum of 2 teams have been eliminated in Japan, though.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 27, 2010, 03:16:25 PM
I  Speculate Black Dragon Pool  will be their first destination...since they can film Jade dragon snow mountain(one of Lijiang's symbol,but it's too far from downtown of Lijiang,so Idon't think they will go) in crew...and it will open at 8:00,since teams look like taking two trains to Lijiang,maybe a time bunching.
(http://www.kmcits888.com/ljtour/UploadFiles_2208/200811/20081122141453610.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Levi Rinno on November 27, 2010, 04:21:30 PM
What about Margie and Luke? and both elimination? or not?

Since they don't have a obvious feature on appearance than other teams.I think we should worry cowboy,basketball player,goth more.

Very true. Only a maximum of 2 teams have been eliminated in Japan, though.
Fairly sure Mel & Mike will be one of them.  I'd be surprised if Mel's old age doesn't catch with him.  He was sixty-eight when he ran TAR14.  He's gotta be seventy for this race.  Don't know who the other will be, though.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 27, 2010, 04:43:42 PM
What about Margie and Luke? and both elimination? or not?

Since they don't have a obvious feature on appearance than other teams.I think we should worry cowboy,basketball player,goth more.

Very true. Only a maximum of 2 teams have been eliminated in Japan, though.
Fairly sure Mel & Mike will be one of them.  I'd be surprised if Mel's old age doesn't catch with him.  He was sixty-eight when he ran TAR14.  He's gotta be seventy for this race.  Don't know who the other will be, though.

I agree!whilst Mel surprised me in TAR14 with his fitness,I just feel that the other teams are too strong this year.I just hope the cowboys are still in it!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 27, 2010, 04:45:16 PM
yes,they've arrived...

Thanks!Is anyone there? I really hope we get more sightings...and that the cowboys are safe!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 27, 2010, 04:46:52 PM
yes,they've arrived...

Thanks!Is anyone there? I really hope we get more sightings...and that the cowboys are safe!

I think not so quick...try searching.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Zvarri on November 27, 2010, 04:55:57 PM
I just hope the dumb cowboys get eliminated! Also the dumb basketball players too.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Belle Book on November 27, 2010, 05:26:42 PM
hey guys I am new,a Chinese TAR Fan
My friend from Kumming via QQ mobile told me,shes  was in a train station before and saw,theres english men with cameras there.they were following an asian grandpa and a japanesse look alike girl,a blonde girl with a guy. and 2 black woman.
This would mean Ronald & Christina, Gary & Mallory, and Kisha & Jen are still alive and kicking.

Ron & Christina are still in the Race?  ALL RIGHT!   :jumpy:   :wohoo:   :jumpy:   :wohoo:   :jumpy:   :wohoo:   :jumpy:   :wohoo:   :jumpy:   :wohoo:   :jumpy:   :wohoo:   :jumpy:   :wohoo:

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on November 27, 2010, 06:10:05 PM
are jaime and cara and flight time and big easy spotted? i hope so :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 27, 2010, 06:16:05 PM
I  Speculate Black Dragon Pool  will be their first destination...since they can film Jade dragon snow mountain(one of Lijiang's symbol,but it's too far from downtown of Lijiang,so Idon't think they will go) in crew...and it will open at 8:00,since teams look like taking two trains to Lijiang,maybe a time bunching.
(http://www.kmcits888.com/ljtour/UploadFiles_2208/200811/20081122141453610.jpg)
:yess:THAT IS BEAUTIFUL! Too bad they dont have time to ENJOY it!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 27, 2010, 06:41:38 PM
I  Speculate Black Dragon Pool  will be their first destination...since they can film Jade dragon snow mountain(one of Lijiang's symbol,but it's too far from downtown of Lijiang,so Idon't think they will go) in crew...and it will open at 8:00,since teams look like taking two trains to Lijiang,maybe a time bunching.
(http://www.kmcits888.com/ljtour/UploadFiles_2208/200811/20081122141453610.jpg)
:yess:THAT IS BEAUTIFUL! Too bad they dont have time to ENJOY it!
:groan: This may be a place they would take them to as well. Since this Race is to be more athletic than the past races the " Tiger Leaping Gorge" looks like a CHALLENGE with rafting by far????

"The Tiger Leaping Gorge which first included a trip to the first bend of the mighty Yangtze River. The Yangtze River, considered the mother river of China, flows majestically through the centre of China and is the third longest river in the world. Starting from the Qinghai-Tibet Plateau, the Yangtze River surges south-eastward until it meets the Hengduan Mountain Range. About 44 miles outside of Lijiang, unusual geological phenomenon’s force the Yangtze to make a sudden V-shaped bend and flow to the northeast. This extraordinary turn, nearly 180-degrees, creates beautiful and marvellous views. Here, the river is wide and the water flows in a gentle, slow pace. Large willow trees grow luxuriously alongside the river that is banked on both sides with lush, fertile deep green vegetation and immense, steep mountains that rise up from the river to touch the clouds in the blue sky above. The whole sight is like a wonderful landscape painting that never ends. This is a world-famous geological phenomenon and an extraordinary panoramic scene whose vistas you will long remember."
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 27, 2010, 06:55:29 PM
The Tiger Leaping Gorge is very far to Lijang ancient city,they should took half a day to get there...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TexasLady on November 27, 2010, 07:08:43 PM
I'm in awe, what a beautiful place!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: topaz on November 27, 2010, 07:31:08 PM
they're already in China!  To TAR producers and All-Stars contestants please go to my country in the Philippines [in Manila] by tomorrow so that I could spot all of you and post it here and to my twitter account and tomorrow is a holiday in my country and I have no office work at that day. :tup:

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Slowhatch on November 27, 2010, 07:41:52 PM
Lijiang? It's about time (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11906.msg189042.html#msg189042). Google does an OK job, City8 doesn't cover LJ but Edushi does: the Old City (http://lijiang.edushi.com/?oid=8578), which I suppose will be one of the stops.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 27, 2010, 07:52:18 PM
Lijiang? It's about time (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11906.msg189042.html#msg189042). Google does an OK job, City8 doesn't cover LJ but Edushi does: the Old City (http://lijiang.edushi.com/?oid=8578), which I suppose will be one of the stops.
** Do you know of any physical challenging things that Old City would be known for?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 27, 2010, 07:53:12 PM
Lijiang? It's about time (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11906.msg189042.html#msg189042). Google does an OK job, City8 doesn't cover LJ but Edushi does: the Old City (http://lijiang.edushi.com/?oid=8578), which I suppose will be one of the stops.
** Do you know of any physical challenging things that Old City would be known for?

High altitude? Possibly something to do with the mountainous terrain?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 27, 2010, 08:07:19 PM
Lijiang? It's about time (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11906.msg189042.html#msg189042). Google does an OK job, City8 doesn't cover LJ but Edushi does: the Old City (http://lijiang.edushi.com/?oid=8578), which I suppose will be one of the stops.
** Do you know of any physical challenging things that Old City would be known for?

Do you mean like walking and breathing?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 27, 2010, 08:14:22 PM
Lijiang? It's about time (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,11906.msg189042.html#msg189042). Google does an OK job, City8 doesn't cover LJ but Edushi does: the Old City (http://lijiang.edushi.com/?oid=8578), which I suppose will be one of the stops.
** Do you know of any physical challenging things that Old City would be known for?
There are many shops of Naxi nationality feature,they can do tasks about this...

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: The Queen V on November 27, 2010, 09:59:43 PM
I am guessing to a previously unvisited country next, because China has so many connections.

 :yess: :yess: :yess: :yess: :yess:

im leaning towards laos or myanmar (but i do know myanmar is a little too off the track) since kunming is actually close to both countries, and have no many international flights away except to thailand, myanmar, laos or malaysia.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dojima on November 27, 2010, 10:08:34 PM
Myanmar has as much chance as North Korea.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 27, 2010, 10:32:52 PM
I am guessing to a previously unvisited country next, because China has so many connections.

 :yess: :yess: :yess: :yess: :yess:

im leaning towards laos or myanmar (but i do know myanmar is a little too off the track) since kunming is actually close to both countries, and have no many international flights away except to thailand, myanmar, laos or malaysia.

There is quite an eclectic set of international destinations from Kunming (KMG). Hanoi, Vientiene, Phuket, Bangkok, Rangoon (Yangon), Mandalay, Kolkutta, Delhi, and Dhaka. I didnt see Kuala Lumpur.......but doesnt meant it isnt there on another day.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 27, 2010, 10:39:39 PM
(http://preview.shareapic.net/preview7/023970384.jpg) (http://www.shareapic.net/View-23970384-Amazing-Race-18-China-Sightings.html)

looks like they are in front of a hotel??

It doesn't look like any picture of Lijiang or Kunming I've seen. Could this be from Hong Kong?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TARA on November 27, 2010, 10:52:38 PM
(http://preview.shareapic.net/preview7/023970384.jpg) (http://www.shareapic.net/View-23970384-Amazing-Race-18-China-Sightings.html)

looks like they are in front of a hotel??

It doesn't look like any picture of Lijiang or Kunming I've seen. Could this be from Hong Kong?

accordingly that's the train station in Kunming
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 27, 2010, 11:02:25 PM
(http://preview.shareapic.net/preview7/023970384.jpg) (http://www.shareapic.net/View-23970384-Amazing-Race-18-China-Sightings.html)

looks like they are in front of a hotel??

I sent same photo to peach hours ago...this is what I confirmed cowboys being spotted.They are at Kunming airport,find a taxi taking them to train station.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 27, 2010, 11:08:27 PM
Could this be from Hong Kong?

Pardon my being nosey..........but why would you think it was Hong Kong?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on November 27, 2010, 11:14:42 PM
I have a feeling Mel/Mike and the Goths were the two teams eliminated.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kaad on November 27, 2010, 11:26:47 PM
Someone from "Baidu" mentioned:
There's a clue box at the gate of Lijiang Ancient City last night.
(this information is given from the people living there)

He said is there a chance that some of the teams are ahead of Gary&Mallory, and already went there?

And also he has mentioned: There are some production teams at Qiyi Street(七一街) in this morning.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: The Queen V on November 27, 2010, 11:29:22 PM
Someone from "Baidu" mentioned:
There's a clue box at the gate of Lijiang Ancient City last night.
(this information is given from the people living there)

He said is there a chance that some of the teams are ahead of Gary&Mallory, and already went there?

they're probably being set up?

imo, it's way impossible for teams to get spread out, there would be a chance of bunching point.

didnt their train arrive around 5 am?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on November 27, 2010, 11:33:05 PM
Could this be from Hong Kong?

Pardon my being nosey..........but why would you think it was Hong Kong?

It was a case of my mind being too active and jumping to conclusions. I was looking through pictures of Lijiang and Kunming trying to identify the curved 10 story building in the distance in front of the Cowboys. I didn't see anything that looked like it in Lijiang or Kunming during my obviously too brief search. Since there have been previous statements about two possible legs in China and teams passing through Hong Kong, I was guessing that photo could have been taken during a leg in Hong Kong. As the photo was taken at the Kunming train station, I was horribly off the mark. I hope I didn't confuse anyone out there.  

Plaidmoon
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kaad on November 27, 2010, 11:36:22 PM
Someone from "Baidu" mentioned:
There's a clue box at the gate of Lijiang Ancient City last night.
(this information is given from the people living there)

He said is there a chance that some of the teams are ahead of Gary&Mallory, and already went there?

they're probably being set up?

imo, it's way impossible for teams to get spread out, there would be a chance of bunching point.

didnt their train arrive around 5 am?
It isn't the only train to get there though, maybe there are teams ahead or far behind,
so it's an unknown now.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 27, 2010, 11:37:17 PM
Could this be from Hong Kong?

Pardon my being nosey..........but why would you think it was Hong Kong?

It was a case of my mind being too active and jumping to conclusions. I was looking through pictures of Lijiang and Kunming trying to identify the curved 10 story building in the distance in front of the Cowboys. I didn't see anything that looked like it in Lijiang or Kunming during my obviously too brief search. Since there have been previous statements about two possible legs in China and teams passing through Hong Kong, I was guessing that photo could have been taken during a leg in Hong Kong. As the photo was taken at the Kunming train station, I was horribly off the mark. I hope I didn't confuse anyone out there.  

Plaidmoon

Okay.....thanks
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: The Queen V on November 27, 2010, 11:38:40 PM
Someone from "Baidu" mentioned:
There's a clue box at the gate of Lijiang Ancient City last night.
(this information is given from the people living there)

He said is there a chance that some of the teams are ahead of Gary&Mallory, and already went there?

they're probably being set up?

imo, it's way impossible for teams to get spread out, there would be a chance of bunching point.

didnt their train arrive around 5 am?
It isn't the only train to get there though, maybe there are teams ahead or far behind,
so it's an unknown now.

I highly doubt that this season would allow such a travesty that happened in all stars 1 with teams departing the pit stop even before another set of teams only beginning the previous leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: krabbe on November 27, 2010, 11:40:55 PM
From my experience, the altitude in Lijiang wasn't bad (& this is coming from a person who lives in a low, flat basin). It's the lay out of the streets, especially in the old city, that could make teams lose time. Very confusing, lots of small alleyways without clear markings & a lot of them are uphill which can be tiring after you get lost for hours looking for one frigging place.
I remember there's one place where people hang up lots of small wooden plaques with their wishes, this could be part of a task.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 27, 2010, 11:44:05 PM
(http://preview.shareapic.net/preview7/023970384.jpg) (http://www.shareapic.net/View-23970384-Amazing-Race-18-China-Sightings.html)

looks like they are in front of a hotel??

I sent same photo to peach hours ago...this is what I confirmed cowboys being spotted.They are at Kunming airport,find a taxi taking them to train station.

Look. there's a clock. Three possibilities

1. 11:40 PM
2. 8:50 PM
3. Clock is not working :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 27, 2010, 11:50:09 PM
Clock looks like 7:50 to me
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on November 28, 2010, 12:01:13 AM
Someone from "Baidu" mentioned:
There's a clue box at the gate of Lijiang Ancient City last night.
(this information is given from the people living there)

He said is there a chance that some of the teams are ahead of Gary&Mallory, and already went there?

And also he has mentioned: There are some production teams at Qiyi Street(七一街) in this morning.

It's possible but that would still put Ron/Chris, Kisha/Jen, FT/BE, and CB's behind them though since they were spotted at the station after Gallory. It is possible 3 teams were ahead of them though but you would think that now they are out of Japan they would be spotted by now.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2010, 12:06:03 AM
I am working, will post the pic as soon as I can!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on November 28, 2010, 12:10:02 AM
jamie just accceppted my facebook friend request witch means they got eliminatted! in one of the japans legs just speculation i like them  :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jalg.gali2 on November 28, 2010, 12:21:11 AM
Probably Mel and Mike and the cheerleaders were eliminated in Japan.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 28, 2010, 12:25:37 AM
jamie just accceppted my facebook friend request witch means they got eliminatted! in one of the japans legs just speculation i like them  :'(

It probably means someone else is accessing her Facebook account for her.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on November 28, 2010, 12:26:29 AM
Could have been the Goths or Margie and Luke though. Jaime could have someone monitoring her FB.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on November 28, 2010, 12:28:48 AM
Just took a look at Jaime's facebook and she has been posting all throughout the race, she def. has someone watching her FB or its fake.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TeamKandA on November 28, 2010, 12:31:43 AM
jamie just accceppted my facebook friend request witch means they got eliminatted! in one of the japans legs just speculation i like them  :'(

It probably means someone else is accessing her Facebook account for her.

contestants are not to have any outside contact while in sequester. Even after being eliminated. I am sure she has someone accessing it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: methylc on November 28, 2010, 12:34:49 AM
just look how nice the update times are. someone must have done scheduled updates. and suddenly, via HootSuite instead of BlackBerry?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 28, 2010, 12:37:23 AM
just look how nice the update times are. someone must have done scheduled updates. and suddenly, via HootSuite instead of BlackBerry?

Most of the updates are auto posts.........like from apps that you can add to your account to post horoscope, good thoughts.......etc
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on November 28, 2010, 01:08:45 AM
The remaining 3 teams must lag behind so much

BTW, I am from Hong Kong
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: methylc on November 28, 2010, 01:12:52 AM
The photo was probably taken a while ago before being uploaded, isn't it? can't really expect up-to-date by the minute...

was that after they checked in or a task before checking in?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: The Queen V on November 28, 2010, 01:15:35 AM
Thanks Weihen for the translations of Mad Joe's updates! I guess it wouldn't hurt if I put in my version as well:

1.45pm: God, I found Zev and Justin!
1.49pm: God! I gave them Y200.
2.00pm: I don't know if Zev and Justin are last. I asked and they denied it, but they looked sullen. Cameramen don't give up (sic). They asked me for money, and I gave them Y200. They ran off but I didn't follow. I'm now at the entrance to the Old City of Lijiang, waiting to see if there are others. P.S. They denied getting the Express Pass.
2.07pm: Indeed, there is a performance at the plaza.
God, I found Christina and Ron. They're safe for this leg (sic), and they're performing a folk dance. It's not wise to get closer; the cameramen are following closely.
2.30pm: Talked a long while with Christina, both in English and Chinese. Both she and her father are pretty fluent in Chinese. I told them to go for first, and she thanked me. I wanted to help her, but she's too honest and didn't want to "cheat". She hugged to thank me in the end, I'm going to cry...
2.59pm: Met up with Uncle Bao. He's exasperated to have not seen anybody. Haha, funny!

time he commented or the time he saw the teams?

ron and christina performing what? is it a task? how were they safe? are they enjoying? sorry, too vague?

also, are there eyewitness reports on who got eliminated in Japan?

EDIT: woops, read it. gosh, chinese is hard to understand.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin88 on November 28, 2010, 01:23:25 AM
Amanda & Kris eliminated in Oz, Cowboys in Japan
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: The Queen V on November 28, 2010, 01:27:46 AM
Do we confirm 2 legs in japan or 2 legs in china?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 28, 2010, 01:30:50 AM
Kynt and Vyxsin are in front of the Qingqing Kezhan Holiday Inn here.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=ulH&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=%E4%B8%BD%E6%B1%9F+%E5%81%87%E6%9C%9F%E5%AE%A2%E6%A0%88&fb=1&gl=us&hq=%E5%81%87%E6%9C%9F%E5%AE%A2%E6%A0%88&hnear=Lijiang,+Yunnan,+China&cid=0,0,7001420493927183360&ei=dwTyTP65Fs_AngeK892rCg&sa=X&oi=local_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CBcQnwIwAA

Amanda & Kris eliminated in Oz, Cowboys in Japan

Please review your facts before posting! Jet and Cord were seen in Kunming, with photo evidence.

Which narrows down the possibilities for Japan... :(
That is Kynt obviously

I don't think you understand what I meant.

Neobie.....I keep having flashbacks to the movie......Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.........
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 28, 2010, 01:34:29 AM
Probably Mel and Mike and the cheerleaders were eliminated in Japan.

Wait mins, doubles eliminated? in Japan
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 28, 2010, 01:38:24 AM
Probably Mel and Mike and the cheerleaders were eliminated in Japan.

Wait mins, doubles eliminated? in Japan

There were 2 legs in Japan probably
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2010, 01:43:10 AM
Amanda & Kris eliminated in Oz, Cowboys in Japan



Please review your facts before posting! Jet and Cord were seen in Kunming, with photo evidence.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 28, 2010, 01:46:58 AM
Uncle Bao said:"Kent & Vyksin are received 30 minutes time penalty."
Kent/vyksin finished last,but they are still running,phil said uturn ahead

?!!!

Uncle Bao said:"Kent & Vyksin are received 30 minutes time penalty."

Woah! who u-turn Kent & VYksin?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on November 28, 2010, 01:48:16 AM
Uncle Bao said:"Kent & Vyksin are received 30 minutes time penalty."
Kent/vyksin finished last,but they are still running,phil said uturn ahead

?!!!

Uncle Bao said:"Kent & Vyksin are received 30 minutes time penalty."

Woah! who u-turn Kent & VYksin?
it is so early to have u-turn !
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 28, 2010, 01:50:53 AM
Uncle Bao said:"Kent & Vyksin are received 30 minutes time penalty."
Kent/vyksin finished last,but they are still running,phil said uturn ahead

?!!!

Uncle Bao said:"Kent & Vyksin are received 30 minutes time penalty."

It's so hard to believe that they will have a U-Turn that early! Then again Season 15 did on Leg 3...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 28, 2010, 01:57:55 AM
they're already in China!  To TAR producers and All-Stars contestants please go to my country in the Philippines [in Manila] by tomorrow so that I could spot all of you and post it here and to my twitter account and tomorrow is a holiday in my country and I have no office work at that day. :tup:

BTW, I'd found this music video from rock band The Starting Line entitled Leaving and this song will be a great theme song for the TV ad clip for the upcoming TAR 18 aka the 2nd All-Star edition by early next year and it's a great song, guysand check it out: http://tinyurl.com/ydouqpm (http://tinyurl.com/ydouqpm)  :tup: :jam:

AGREED!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 28, 2010, 02:04:20 AM
I found this on twitter..

"The Amazing Race journey continues...off to Amsterdam"
 :duno: :duno:


It was posted by someone that was in London and Paris and now on the way to Amsterdam......nothing all all to do with TAR
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 28, 2010, 02:05:31 AM
Is there anyway to ask Mad Joe to clarify what he means regarding the U-Turn?

Is he saying that K/V are running last and had to face a U Turn?

Or is he saying that they finished last, and face a Speed Bump next leg?

Or is he saying they were U-Turned, then had a 30 minute penalty?

Or is it something else completely different?

Because what was reported weihan makes no sense in the context of the current rules of TAR.

(my first post, but been following spoilers for a long time)


I'm confused too

 :bigwelcome
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on November 28, 2010, 02:25:58 AM
So 1 or 2 of Margie/Luke/, Mel/Mike, and Jamie/Cara were eliminated in Japan, right?

And do we know yet if there was one or 2 legs in Japan?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on November 28, 2010, 02:30:02 AM
Some add information:
No speedbump this season,goth must come first next leg or they will receive a 30-mins  penalty.

Ohhhhhhh I hope this was a misunderstanding :/ The Speed Bump was by far the best NEL punishment. Well, at least when it was a reasonable task, not something like running through fireworks or sitting on ice or in a sauna.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 28, 2010, 02:31:18 AM
I'm confused too

 :bigwelcome

I contacted with Uncle Bao and gave correct answer on live sighting thread.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on November 28, 2010, 02:34:57 AM
No speedbump this season,goth must come first next leg or they will receive a 30-mins  penalty.

Oooh! I hope this is true! I find it far more exciting than Speedbumps!  :yess: :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 28, 2010, 02:36:44 AM
No speedbump this season,goth must come first next leg or they will receive a 30-mins  penalty.

Oooh! I hope this is true! I find it far more exciting than Speedbumps!  :yess: :lol:
:'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on November 28, 2010, 02:38:23 AM
Really? I find the Speed Bump the most fair NEL penalty.

The tour guide standing next to Phil comfirms maggie/luke,kisha/jen,flight time/big easy,jet/cord,and teams i witnessed christina/ron

From Mad_Joe

so Mel/Mike,Jamie/Cara may be on their way to somewhere now...

So it looks like Amanda/Kris gone in Leg 1, and Mel/Mike and Jamie/Cara in Leg 2 and 3(if there is 2 Japan Legs). Because since China is a NEL, there is no way there is a NEL in Japan, especially since Australia was a TBC leg.

lol, TAR14 is really failing this Race.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2010, 02:40:22 AM
Two Japan legs are not yet confirmed, and the POSSIBLE elim of Mel/Mike and J/C is also not yet confirmed. Let's wait till we hear back 100% from our guys in the field ??
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 28, 2010, 02:42:15 AM
Two Japan legs are not yet confirmed.

Do u think the other japan is just a stop over?If it is J/C or M/M (one of them) COULD still be racing!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on November 28, 2010, 02:47:26 AM
Two Japan legs are not yet confirmed, and the POSSIBLE elim of Mel/Mike and J/C is also not yet confirmed. Let's wait till we hear back 100% from our guys in the field ??

Isn't safe to say at least one of them were eliminated? 8 teams were spotted in China(with photo evidence, IIRC), and 10 left for Japan. Even if there is only one Japan leg, either Mel/Mike or Jamie/Cara have to be eliminated.

ETA: oops, no photos of FT/BE or Margie/Luke. I thought there was a photo of Kisha/Jen in China, but couldnt find it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TARA on November 28, 2010, 03:01:14 AM
so phil even took a picture with the follower and gave him an energy bar of his own brand? is it gonna be their final season? when he was spotted on a ferry to macau he said to the photo-seeker that he'd be a big trouble if he took the picture.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2010, 03:02:50 AM
Note my sig: :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 28, 2010, 03:04:17 AM
Well it is all just as clear as chocolate milk to me now!!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on November 28, 2010, 03:50:36 AM
what time is it in USA
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on November 28, 2010, 04:14:37 AM
just saw mallory and her father,and jamie and cara,so 9 teams are heading to kunming right now from the train station in lijiang

from Mad_Joe

Now we really feel sad to Mel and Mike.
she confirmed Mel/Mike and Amanda/Kris didn't show up here,which definitely means they are all out,but not sure about who Jamie and Cara is
so, Lijiang --> Kunming?

also from Mad_Joe
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 28, 2010, 04:15:46 AM
So is the train ride about 8 hours.....from Lijiang to Kunming??????

It is 0515 in NYC and 0215 in Los Angeles
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 28, 2010, 04:32:12 AM
So is the train ride about 8 hours.....from Lijiang to Kunming??????

It is 0515 in NYC and 0215 in Los Angeles

Are they travelling via train to Kunming now?


EDIT:Sorry,just read live sightings stating this.So now we need to wait for another couple of hours.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 28, 2010, 04:46:04 AM
I found this online :

"There is no rail link between Kunming and Lijiang. The closest you can get by train is to Dali (which is another notable tour destination in Yunnan). But the trains are slow (8 to 9 hours to cover the 360 km between Kunming and Dali) and from Dali to Lijiang it is another 200 km. So this is not a very convenient way to go from Kunming to Lijiang."

so,do you think they will take a train and then drive/take a bus?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kaad on November 28, 2010, 05:08:03 AM
From mad_joe's microblog again:
"I told mallory fans in China love her so much because of her sunshine smile,she is so cute in person"

He is so lucky to have a chance to meet with so many racers and Phil!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 28, 2010, 05:13:35 AM
I am Glad Ron and Father is Safe
also Margie and Luke . Jen/Ksh  G/M: Cowboys./Goths

Zev/Justin FT/BE J/C can Go next

If they stay in China. Hope my friends can provide more help.
Thank You to the people who follow them this leg. Rest well.


YAY!!! I'm glad Margie/Luke and Cowboys, Ron/Christian.. are safe! :)  :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on November 28, 2010, 05:35:08 AM
i am gald Goths, Cowboys and Harlem are safe
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 28, 2010, 05:46:40 AM
Japan only one leg. Teams Needs rest before continuing.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ausina on November 28, 2010, 06:25:56 AM
all the remained teams are confirmed, and they are on the train from Li Jiang to Kun Ming now

The 9 teams are:

Ron & Christina
Big Easy & Flight Time
Jaime & Cara
Margie & Luke
Lakisha & Jen
Zev & Justin
Cord & Jet
Gary & Mallory
Kynt & Vyxsin

Two teams have been eliminated:
Amanda & Kris ( in Australia leg)
Mel & Mike (in Japan leg)

The third leg in Li Jiang, China is uneliminated leg.

Kynt & Vyxsin are the last to arrvie pit stop. And there'll be U-turn in the next leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: allie303 on November 28, 2010, 07:33:14 AM
So is the train ride about 8 hours.....from Lijiang to Kunming??????

It is 0515 in NYC and 0215 in Los Angeles

Are they travelling via train to Kunming now?


EDIT:Sorry,just read live sightings stating this.So now we need to wait for another couple of hours.

So they are currently on their way to Kunming via train? Is this leg 4 having started, or is this like a rolling pit stop where they are all being taken to Kunming as one big batch?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 28, 2010, 07:36:11 AM

So they are currently on their way to Kunming via train? Is this leg 4 having started, or is this like a rolling pit stop where they are all being taken to Kunming as one big batch?

Rolling pitstop.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: GabrielP on November 28, 2010, 07:54:22 AM
YAY!

Jaime & Cara are still in it <3  :jumpy:  :jumpy:
and Kynt & Vyxsin too <3  :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on November 28, 2010, 08:30:55 AM
Thanks for all the new info. How do you manage to come up with all this great info?

Btw, has anyone here met Phil or anyone in the prod.crew?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on November 28, 2010, 08:38:23 AM
it is good to see Goth are still on the race
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: metalent on November 28, 2010, 08:55:54 AM
Chinese fans are crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :keeta:

BeiJing is far away from Lijiang ,about 2800 km~~~~ :jumpy:

They followed the contestants all the day :tup:

I think they will be on TV ,aha
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 28, 2010, 08:56:20 AM
Thanks for all the new info. How do you manage to come up with all this great info?

Btw, has anyone here met Phil or anyone in the prod.crew?

Mad_Joe and Uncle Bao met Phil and photoed with Phil today,so lucky!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: allie303 on November 28, 2010, 09:09:07 AM
Do we know when this train is set to arrive at Kunming?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on November 28, 2010, 09:10:18 AM
Thanks for all the new info. How do you manage to come up with all this great info?

Btw, has anyone here met Phil or anyone in the prod.crew?

Mad_Joe and Uncle Bao met Phil and photoed with Phil today,so lucky!!!

Very lucky. I was hoping to met him last time they were in Norway, but he had already left... GRRR!!!  Where are Mad_joe& Uncle Bao from since they met him today?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TexasLady on November 28, 2010, 09:25:27 AM

Mad_Joe and Uncle Bao met Phil and photoed with Phil today,so lucky!!!

I'll say!  :wohoo:

Huge Thank You's to both of them for all they are doing!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 28, 2010, 09:32:49 AM
what time is it in USA
:food:
10:32 AM
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Belle Book on November 28, 2010, 09:40:42 AM
I'm glad that Ron & Christina and Zev & Justin are safe!

I hope the Goths can turn it around.

Glad Cara's safe!  I'd be glad Jaime's safe as well if Jaime is better-behaved this leg.

I liked Mel & Mike but they were never among my personal favorites, so I'm not sorry to see them go -- nor was I terribly sorry to see Amanda & Kris go either.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 28, 2010, 10:25:25 AM
Yay I'm glad all the other teams are confirmed still in it<3

Mel and Mike weren't my favorites to see back and I'm alot happier now that they got an early boot.

I can say the same about Amanda and Kris although it might have been nice to get to know them a little more since we didnt the first time they were on the race X_X. 1st eliminated? What was the point in bringing them back?


I love how TAR 14 had 5 teams representing and everyone was so annoyed with that. And now the 2 out of those 5 that everyone was least excited to see back are gone first and second X_X
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 28, 2010, 10:28:00 AM

Very lucky. I was hoping to met him last time they were in Norway, but he had already left... GRRR!!!  Where are Mad_joe& Uncle Bao from since they met him today?

I can tell you the story...
Mad_Joe,Uncle Bao and I had a strong feeling that they will come to China this season (but no proof at all),then I tried to search Sina Microblog again and again,but nothing...when I want to give up and went to bed last night,I finally found the photo which Gallory spotted in Kunming(this photo was noted without"amazingrace" so nobody found it) at 1am today,you can't imagine how exciting I am! I told Mad_Joe who from Beijing and Uncle Bao who from shanghai, they booked tickets and fly to Lijiang right now.All Chinese fans had amazing day today,we tried our best to find information and finally spotted by Mad_Joe and Uncle bao...We are so so so happy!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 28, 2010, 10:30:47 AM
Separated couples usually goes out first
oh btw anyone know what time they arrive at Kunming?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on November 28, 2010, 10:40:36 AM
Okay so Kynt and Vyxsin came in last on leg 3 which is NEL correct?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on November 28, 2010, 10:42:08 AM

Very lucky. I was hoping to met him last time they were in Norway, but he had already left... GRRR!!!  Where are Mad_joe& Uncle Bao from since they met him today?

I can tell you the story...
Mad_Joe,Uncle Bao and I had a strong feeling that they will come to China this season (but no proof at all),then I tried to search Sina Microblog again and again,but nothing...when I want to give up and went to bed last night,I finally found the photo which Gallory spotted in Kunming(this photo was noted without"amazingrace" so nobody found it) at 1am today,you can't imagine how exciting I am! I told Mad_Joe who from Beijing and Uncle Bao who from shanghai, they booked tickets and fly to Lijiang right now.All Chinese fans had amazing day today,we tried our best to find information and finally spotted by Mad_Joe and Uncle bao...We are so so so happy!!!

Thanks for telling the story, so happy for you. If they come to Europe, I'll might have chance to spot them.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: 2k2m on November 28, 2010, 10:52:55 AM
just saw mallory and her father,and jamie and cara,so 9 teams are heading to kunming right now from the train station in lijiang

from Mad_Joe

Now we really feel sad to Mel and Mike.
she confirmed Mel/Mike and Amanda/Kris didn't show up here,which definitely means they are all out,but not sure about who Jamie and Cara is

also from Mad_Joe

I'm sorry, but just one thing is not clear to me: So mad_joe spotted gary mallory , jaime & cara?
And what about the second commentary? Who didn't see Amanda & Kris, Mel & Mike and didn't know who jaime & Cara is?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on November 28, 2010, 11:18:13 AM
Yeah that confused me too, and Margie/Luke were just added in there somehow nothing too concrete.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Heliox on November 28, 2010, 12:01:57 PM
Exciting stuff this morning!

Anyone stationed at Kunming??
I thought TAR fans were rabid and resourceful on this side of the Pacific, but how many of us would jump on a plane and travel like they did to catch a glimpse??.. great work

This cemented my adoration for Christina:
"2.30pm: Talked a long while with Christina, both in English and Chinese. Both she and her father are pretty fluent in Chinese. I told them to go for gold, and she thanked me. I wanted to help her, but she's too honest and didn't want to "cheat". She hugged to thank me in the end, I'm going to cry..."

I wonder if TAR will allow some of these superfans to be shown to help the teams. They showed Romber being helped, so I hope that they show that there are TAR fans around the world as well!

And not horribly upset at the way this race is panning out. As long as k/v keep racing I am happy, and actually relieved that 2 of the 5 teams from TAR14 are out first.

My personal pick to leave next would be the professional athletes. They would be the only ones left that I would feel would be disasterous to win the race. I hope there are lots of mind bending puzzles along the way to even the playing field.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 28, 2010, 12:02:13 PM
Facebook: Saw the filming of Amazing Race at Balestier! The task: To open xx number of durians!
                  f/u post: Really? the US version? That's so frigging cool!!! yum yum. Bet the contestants were dying from the smell tho.
                  f/u post: Yeah I think it's the US version. Poor contestants, I'm sure they felt nauseous from the smell! There were like piles of durians!
                  F/u post: Yes ....: it's next to the temple near our place. They even got opera performers! I hope I don't get caught on c...amera, was   walking     home from ......... place and was damm sloppy lah!!!
I wanted to snap a picture but was stopped! I should have been more discreet! Haha

(about 2 hours ago)

The US teams are on a train in China. Is this TAROz?
Or are the Aussies in Italy?

Too many races to keep track of. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: graytex on November 28, 2010, 02:12:57 PM
just saw mallory and her father,and jamie and cara,so 9 teams are heading to kunming right now from the train station in lijiang

from Mad_Joe

Now we really feel sad to Mel and Mike.
she confirmed Mel/Mike and Amanda/Kris didn't show up here,which definitely means they are all out,but not sure about who Jamie and Cara is

also from Mad_Joe

Glad I'm not the only confused one.  Are Jaime & Cara still in it or not?  Hope we get photo evidence!

Thanks weihen and your crew in China!  This has been so much fun for all of us reading along with your adventures! :hearts: :jumpy: :hearts: :jumpy:

I'm sorry, but just one thing is not clear to me: So mad_joe spotted gary mallory , jaime & cara?
And what about the second commentary? Who didn't see Amanda & Kris, Mel & Mike and didn't know who jaime & Cara is?

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 28, 2010, 03:44:08 PM

Glad I'm not the only confused one.  Are Jaime & Cara still in it or not?  Hope we get photo evidence!

Thanks weihen and your crew in China!  This has been so much fun for all of us reading along with your adventures! :hearts: :jumpy: :hearts: :jumpy:

I'm sorry, but just one thing is not clear to me: So mad_joe spotted gary mallory , jaime & cara?
And what about the second commentary? Who didn't see Amanda & Kris, Mel & Mike and didn't know who jaime & Cara is?


The redheads were spotted @ the Pit Stop and on the way back to Kunming.
here: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23690.msg577651.html#msg577651
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on November 28, 2010, 04:41:45 PM
First, I wanna say thanks to weihan, Uncle Bao, and Mad_Joe. Yall have done AMAZING!!!

Does anyone else think this will be a short leg? Leg 3 must have been really long, from flying from Japan to China then the train ride. Hopefully we will learn who gets eliminated *crosses fingers*
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 28, 2010, 04:43:09 PM
First, I wanna say thanks to weihan, Uncle Bao, and Mad_Joe. Yall have done AMAZING!!!

Does anyone else think this will be a short leg? Leg 3 must have been really long, from flying from Japan to China then the train ride. Hopefully we will learn who gets eliminated *crosses fingers*

You can check live sighting thread,they are racing leg 4 in Kunming now.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 28, 2010, 04:50:33 PM
I think S18 may have 12 legs and double legs in Aus maybe a special 2 hrs opening shown in 1 Ep since two legs in China now.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 28, 2010, 05:01:53 PM
I think S18 may have 12 legs and double legs in Aus maybe a special 2 hrs opening shown in 1 Ep since two legs in China now.

That's what I think too.  12 legs and 13 episodes (the first two for Leg 1)  I expect they will finish between the 14th-16th of December for about 24-26 days.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 28, 2010, 05:10:58 PM
confirm detour here.

Do you know if this is the beginning of the detour, or one of the choices?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 28, 2010, 06:26:50 PM
So exciting!!A huge thanks to everyone in China who's following the teams around!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 28, 2010, 06:43:46 PM
So exciting!!A huge thanks to everyone in China who's following the teams around!

Ditto!  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 28, 2010, 06:49:34 PM
The next destination is likely Vientiane, Laos. There are 2 direct flights from Kunming.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 28, 2010, 06:53:14 PM
The next destination is likely Vientiane, Laos. There are 2 direct flights from Kunming.

Laos is a possibility, also Nepal and the Middle East (especially Qatar, Bahrain, and Jordan).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 28, 2010, 06:54:00 PM
Yes, that's what I think aswell

Find a Place
Get a Clue
A Detour
Fly somewhere
Drive to somewhere
RoadBlock
PitStop

Their had to give a chance for teams to separate . So Goths gets a chance.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 28, 2010, 06:59:20 PM
The next destination is likely Vientiane, Laos. There are 2 direct flights from Kunming.

Laos is a possibility, also Nepal and the Middle East (especially Qatar, Bahrain, and Jordan).


I'd love to see them go to Nepal. The Middle-East also.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 28, 2010, 07:01:34 PM
The next destination is likely Vientiane, Laos. There are 2 direct flights from Kunming.

Laos is a possibility, also Nepal and the Middle East (especially Qatar, Bahrain, and Jordan).


I'd love to see them go to Nepal. The Middle-East also.

I doubt Nepal, but I do think Doha, Qatar is possible after Laos. I'm guessing 5 teams will go to Elimination Station, and only 2 have been eliminated so far...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 28, 2010, 07:06:31 PM
The next destination is likely Vientiane, Laos. There are 2 direct flights from Kunming.

Laos is a possibility, also Nepal and the Middle East (especially Qatar, Bahrain, and Jordan).


I'd love to see them go to Nepal. The Middle-East also.

I doubt Nepal, but I do think Doha, Qatar is possible after Laos. I'm guessing 5 teams will go to Elimination Station, and only 2 have been eliminated so far...

Yeah Nepal is a mainly doubted, but the Middle East or India sounds reasonable for the next couple legs.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on November 28, 2010, 07:24:53 PM
The next destination is likely Vientiane, Laos. There are 2 direct flights from Kunming.

Laos is a possibility, also Nepal and the Middle East (especially Qatar, Bahrain, and Jordan).

I'd love to see them go to Nepal. The Middle-East also.

I doubt Nepal, but I do think Doha, Qatar is possible after Laos. I'm guessing 5 teams will go to Elimination Station, and only 2 have been eliminated so far...

Yeah Nepal is a mainly doubted, but the Middle East or India sounds reasonable for the next couple legs.

i just really hope they go to nepal and laos




 :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2010, 07:28:36 PM
If you are quoting a post...you MUST post past the last [/quote] or you answer will be blue as well.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on November 28, 2010, 07:44:52 PM
If you are quoting a post...you MUST post past the last
or you answer will be blue as well.
[/quote]

oh i didnt no  :-[
[/quote]
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: The Queen V on November 28, 2010, 09:02:54 PM
is there any confirmation to the speedbump being replaced by the mark for elimination?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2010, 09:04:33 PM
Read the thread please, that was discussed as maybe an error??
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TexasLady on November 28, 2010, 09:32:55 PM
If you are quoting a post...you MUST post past the last
or you answer will be blue as well.

oh i didnt no  :-[
[/quote]
[/quote]

Don't worry about it, I've done the same thing many times...  :-[  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 28, 2010, 10:07:12 PM
-Twitter - Hey just to let you all know, I heard The Amazing Race 18 is now in Singapore. Like right NOW!
 about 11 hours ago

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 28, 2010, 10:20:16 PM
No...that is TAR Aus.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 28, 2010, 10:20:56 PM
No...that is TAR Aus.

Oh, I thought..  :-[ :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kaad on November 28, 2010, 11:58:27 PM
Margie&Luke/Kisha&Jen/Goths

so these three teams are safe after leg 4, right?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 29, 2010, 12:08:09 AM
Margie & Luke, Big Easy & Flight Time, Goths, Kisha & Jen are safe now!

YAY!!!! *Gasp* What about Cowboys!?!? not tell me elimination! if cowyboys are safe?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 29, 2010, 12:09:01 AM
Margie&Luke/Kisha&Jen/Goths

so these three teams are safe after leg 4, right?


The globetrotters are also safe,much to the annoyance of many I am sure lol. I just hope the cowboys are safe!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 29, 2010, 12:11:58 AM
Zev and Justin safe.
Ron and Chris safe.

What about cowboys? and Ron/Christian? and Gary/Mallory?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: michael on November 29, 2010, 12:12:12 AM
Zev and Justin safe.
Ron and Chris safe.


 :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: michael on November 29, 2010, 12:13:04 AM
Is this the actual check in order please?

Now the order we know:
Kisha/Jen
Goth(get to pitstop before Kisha/Jen,but receive 30mins)
Flight time and Big easy
Ron and Chris
Zev/Justin

So Jamie/Cara are team number 1?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: michael on November 29, 2010, 12:16:43 AM
Is this the actual check in order please?

Now the order we know:
Kisha/Jen
Goth(get to pitstop before Kisha/Jen,but receive 30mins)
Flight time and Big easy
Ron and Chris
Zev/Justin

someone's gotta be there before Kisha and Jen if the goths got the penalty

So Jamie/Cara are team number 1?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kaad on November 29, 2010, 12:18:15 AM
so is it between gary&mallory and cowboy? god
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: KingCrimson88 on November 29, 2010, 12:19:13 AM
What's this about Jaime/Cara being first? Sounds like they're still racing. or did I miss something
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 29, 2010, 12:19:32 AM
so is it between gary&mallory and cowboy? god

Yeah, I hope I pray cowboys and gary&mallory are safe.. but what about jamie/cara?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on November 29, 2010, 12:19:51 AM
So it looks like Gallory, Cowboys, or Jamie/Cara are eliminated?

I know some people are saying Jamie/Cara are ahead, but can you confrim that weihen?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: michael on November 29, 2010, 12:20:01 AM
What's this about Jaime/Cara being first? Sounds like they're still racing. or did I miss something

Well apparently J/C were ahead earlier in the leg, and somebody is there before Kesha/Jen or the goths wouldn't have gotten the penalty, so it's prob J/C....thats my theory anyways.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 29, 2010, 12:21:03 AM
So it looks like Gallory, Cowboys, or Jamie/Cara are eliminated?

I know some people are saying Jamie/Cara are ahead, but can you confrim that weihen?

I said they ahead in Lijiang leg...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on November 29, 2010, 12:22:37 AM
Thanks Weihan.

I hope Gary and Mallory and Jamie and Cara are safe  :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Heliox on November 29, 2010, 12:30:12 AM
good lord this is exciting, and I don't want to go to bed until we find out who it was eliminated. PLEASE let Mallory and Gary survive.

The fact that there was a 30 min penalty and they could actually see how it unfolded is truly.. well, AMAZING!

Go China!!

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2010, 12:32:20 AM
Quote
Goths safe

 :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 29, 2010, 12:36:05 AM
Oh God,please let the cowboys be safe!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ausina on November 29, 2010, 12:37:12 AM
So 6 teams have been confirmed safe, and cowboys/cheerleaders/G&M still missing.
I'd be glad to see the girls' gone.

Cowboys go!
Gary & Mallory go!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on November 29, 2010, 12:38:16 AM
So Leg 4 Finish order is looking like

One or more of Margie/Luke, Jamie/Cara, Gary/Mallory, Jet/Cord
Jen/Kisha
Kynt/Vyxsin(after 30 Minute Penalty)
Flight Time/Big Easy
Ron/Chris
Zev/Justin
One or more of Jamie/Cara, Gary/Mallory, Jet/Cord

Right?


And am I the only person who would like to see the Cowboys go :/
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2010, 12:39:59 AM
This is prob Leg 5...and see weihen's list, that is the only confirmed standings right now.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: calibound234 on November 29, 2010, 12:40:51 AM
ew i hope they go if its between Jamie and Cara, them and Gary and Mallory


I hope Gary and Mallory got the fast forward and thats why they werent spotted<3

and Jamie and Cara were at the front of the pack with Margie and Luke
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 29, 2010, 12:41:24 AM
 Please cowboys are safe!!!  :dontgo: :dontgo:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Heliox on November 29, 2010, 12:41:42 AM
No TARfan, you are definitely not the only one that would like to see the Cowboys gone at this point.

Especially over Gary and Mallory. Hoping that they are safe.

Jaime and Cara I am on the fence with, I like a strong female team over the professional cowboys.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on November 29, 2010, 12:42:07 AM
I thought there was 1 leg in Australia, 1 leg in Japan, and 2 legs in China? Or are you counting the TBC Leg as a leg by itself?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2010, 12:47:01 AM
We don't know if AUS will be counted as one leg or two....so I was counting 5 but 4 is also possible.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on November 29, 2010, 12:50:32 AM
Well, if the Cowboys ran this leg like the first one, we maybe waiting a while   :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 29, 2010, 12:52:04 AM
Well, if the Cowboys ran this leg like the first one, we maybe waiting a while   :lol:

I wonder someone U-turned them...just guess.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 29, 2010, 12:55:23 AM
Well, if the Cowboys ran this leg like the first one, we maybe waiting a while   :lol:

I wonder someone U-turned them...just guess.


I can see that happening. there was speculation that there was a U-Turn this leg.Perhaps the goths u-turned them as they needed as much time as possible due to the knowledge that they may incur a penalty. and honestly, if I were to u-turn anyone it would be them because they're a strong team. I hope they're safe!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: The Queen V on November 29, 2010, 12:57:08 AM
any chances this is a double u turn?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 29, 2010, 12:59:00 AM
any chances this is a double u turn?

Maybe...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 29, 2010, 01:07:43 AM
any chances this is a double u turn?


That's also very possible,considering the time that has elapsed since the last team checked in. maybe the goths u-turned the cowboys who in turn u-turned Mallory or vice versa  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 29, 2010, 01:21:17 AM
almost one hour no sighting of teams checked in ...looks like the last team so fell behind.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on November 29, 2010, 01:24:38 AM
Could Zev/Justin have been the last team and were eliminated?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2010, 01:25:28 AM
Is there any possibility that our watchers got there late and missed someone? If it is over, they will see the area being cleared.

If not, I can wait all night. :lol:

Also...If  Gary/Mallory are far behind, they could use the Express Pass we think they have.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 29, 2010, 01:26:01 AM
Could Zev/Justin have been the last team and were eliminated?
They arrived pitstop  at the same time with Ron and Chris...and they looked happy.

Phil is still waiting now.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on November 29, 2010, 01:27:55 AM
Oh, OK weihen. Thank you and all those spotting in China!

And same, peach. I don't have a problem waiting all night  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace n00b on November 29, 2010, 01:29:44 AM
I've been waiting up for this as well.  Especially since Gary and Mallory are one of the teams unaccounted for.  If they were safe I'd probably just go to bed because it's 2:30 am here.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 29, 2010, 01:33:49 AM
I am waiting as well.. actually, here is 5:33pm... :) Actually, Im in Guam.. :) I want to know who elimination.. :) WOW, Phil still waiting....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 29, 2010, 01:34:31 AM
What if there was no express pass this season?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: cabioTAR on November 29, 2010, 01:39:45 AM
This is really awesome ... :tup:

LIVE race update  ....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 29, 2010, 01:40:48 AM
What if there was no express pass this season?
Very possible...Zev and Justin said they don't have express pass to Mad_Joe although they depart first on 2nd leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on November 29, 2010, 01:41:05 AM
i hope the cowboys can be safe
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2010, 01:42:37 AM
We KNOW there is an Express Pass.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 29, 2010, 01:44:55 AM
This is so great! I love the fact that we have so much info this season so far!

Great job to the China spotters, and although it's already been said a million times, please let Mallory & Gary be safe! :drama

The only team I don't want to win is the cowboys. :rodeo
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on November 29, 2010, 01:45:22 AM
Sigh I hope the cowboys are safe too. Im literally refreshing the page over and over again in hope of news that the cowboys are safe. Haha :) Wells, perhaps they actually checked in as the first 3 teams?  :duno: sigh
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: north09 on November 29, 2010, 01:46:22 AM
If Zev & Justin don't have it, then the only other team would have to be the first to reach the mat at Cabbage Tree Bay: Gary & Mallory  :hearts:

Thanks for the awesome updates weihen!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 29, 2010, 01:48:50 AM
We KNOW there is an Express Pass.

Then why Zev and Justin said they don't have?Lie?or a prize for who came first at mid-point?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on November 29, 2010, 01:50:05 AM
We KNOW there is an Express Pass.

Then why Zev and Justin said they don't have?Lie?or a prize for who came first at mid-point?

Yeah i was thinking that they lied to the RFF ppl. Hmm i remembered reading on the TAR application form for which racers cannot disclose informations or sth like that. So i think he is lying to mad_joe. :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: north09 on November 29, 2010, 01:53:51 AM
It's only fitting that Jamie leaves us in China  :neener:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: michael on November 29, 2010, 01:54:15 AM
It's only fitting that Jamie leaves us in China  :neener:

 :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on November 29, 2010, 01:55:09 AM
yayyyy the cowboys are safe!!  :meow:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on November 29, 2010, 01:55:55 AM
order:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory
3rd:Margie and Luke
4th:Kisha and Jen
5th:Goth
6th:Flight time and Big esy
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin

Emilinated:Jamie and Cara

NOOOOOOOO

Ron/Christina being at the bottom </3
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on November 29, 2010, 01:56:11 AM
We KNOW there is an Express Pass.

All I know is that Mallory expected there to be an Express Pass. :hides
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 29, 2010, 01:56:39 AM
order:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory
3rd:Margie and Luke
4th:Kisha and Jen
5th:Goth
6th:Flight time and Big esy
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin

Emilinated:Jamie and Cara

YESSS!Cowboys in!!Weihen you're awesome!Thank you so much for the China updates!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: eragon on November 29, 2010, 01:58:35 AM
Seriously? Jaime & Cara were eliminated?  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on November 29, 2010, 01:58:41 AM
As much as I want FT/BE and the Cowboys to go next, I think it would be hilarious if Kisha/Jen and Margie/Luke go next
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 29, 2010, 01:59:58 AM
It's only fitting that Jamie leaves us in China  :neener:

 :lol: :lol:

hahaha so true!She'll really dislike China now! also sorry about the express pass thing-I completely forgot that it was pretty much confirmed that it will come into play this season!

Also...yaii cowboys!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Levi Rinno on November 29, 2010, 02:00:12 AM
order:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory
3rd:Margie and Luke
4th:Kisha and Jen
5th:Goth
6th:Flight time and Big esy
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin

Emilinated:Jamie and Cara

YESSS!Cowboys in!!Weihen you're awesome!Thank you so much for the China updates!
Why the hell do you want the Cowboys in?!  They're so boring and one-note!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Levi Rinno on November 29, 2010, 02:01:51 AM
And how'd they know Jet & Cord and Gary & Mallory were the first two, anyway?  I thought the one watching the teams didn't see the first few.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 29, 2010, 02:03:51 AM
And how'd they know Jet & Cord and Gary & Mallory were the first two, anyway?  I thought the one watching the teams didn't see the first few.

After Jamie and Cara checked in,crews all left now...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 29, 2010, 02:04:03 AM
order:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory
3rd:Margie and Luke
4th:Kisha and Jen
5th:Goth
6th:Flight time and Big esy
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin

Emilinated:Jamie and Cara

YESSS!Cowboys in!!Weihen you're awesome!Thank you so much for the China updates!
Why the hell do you want the Cowboys in?!  They're so boring and one-note!


No need to sound so snarky.It's a personal preference.I liked the fact that they just got on with the race and didn't create much drama.Maybe that's what you interpret as "boring and one-note!"
Mind if I ask who you're rooting for?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 29, 2010, 02:04:38 AM
Hey weihen............

You edit better than CBS..............
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Levi Rinno on November 29, 2010, 02:06:17 AM
order:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory
3rd:Margie and Luke
4th:Kisha and Jen
5th:Goth
6th:Flight time and Big esy
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin

Emilinated:Jamie and Cara

YESSS!Cowboys in!!Weihen you're awesome!Thank you so much for the China updates!
Why the hell do you want the Cowboys in?!  They're so boring and one-note!


No need to sound so snarky.It's a personal preference.I liked the fact that they just got on with the race and didn't create much drama.Maybe that's what you interpret as "boring and one-note!"
Mind if I ask who you're rooting for?
If the spoilers are indeed right, they just left now. :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on November 29, 2010, 02:06:40 AM
i know why Goth should be 5th
because if they arrived firstly, they did not need to receive 30 mins
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 29, 2010, 02:06:57 AM
And how'd they know Jet & Cord and Gary & Mallory were the first two, anyway?  I thought the one watching the teams didn't see the first few.

After Jamie and Cara checked in,crews all left now...


Has Phil left as well?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 29, 2010, 02:07:46 AM
The Cowboys were quite competent Racers the first go-around, and I do not find them boring. Their ability to complete tasks quickly is about as good as I've ever seen on the Race, and even though they make occasional mistakes, they showed in their first Race that they're usually able to make mid-course corrections and rebound from them.

And their observations about other places and cultures, compared to their rural Oklahoma upbringing is entertaining, especially if the viewer is familar with urban versus rural America.

So, I don't hate Jet and Cord; they are one of several teams this go around that I liked the first time; and now that they've got their Racing shoes back in fine tune, they should be good for the long haul in this season.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on November 29, 2010, 02:07:54 AM
It's only fitting that Jamie leaves us in China  :neener:

We say goodbye our 9th all-female team to be eliminated in 9th place in 18 seasons. Not to forget that Kelly and Christy and Maria and Tiffany nearly got eliminated in 9th place too had it not been for Zev and Justin's mistake and Mark and Bill's penalty.

One thing we know is Jaime probably won't be visiting China in a longgg longgggg time. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 29, 2010, 02:10:37 AM
order:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory
3rd:Margie and Luke
4th:Kisha and Jen
5th:Goth
6th:Flight time and Big esy
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin

Emilinated:Jamie and Cara

YESSS!Cowboys in!!Weihen you're awesome!Thank you so much for the China updates!
Why the hell do you want the Cowboys in?!  They're so boring and one-note!


No need to sound so snarky.It's a personal preference.I liked the fact that they just got on with the race and didn't create much drama.Maybe that's what you interpret as "boring and one-note!"
Mind if I ask who you're rooting for?
If the spoilers are indeed right, they just left now. :(

So you wanted Jamie and Cara to win?Clearly we don't have the same taste!lol well I'm sorry your fav teams(allegedly) out and whilst they weren't at the top of my list, I respect that you liked them.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ausina on November 29, 2010, 02:11:45 AM
 :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

Fantastic!
The best result I ever expect!
Byebye, red hair girls, coz u suck
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 29, 2010, 02:13:53 AM
Theschnauzers, you speak so much sense lol. I also liked the fact that the cowboys genuinely seemed to enjoy the places the visited(well as much as one can given the circumstances)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: cabioTAR on November 29, 2010, 02:14:06 AM
time:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory   Unknown
3rd:Margie and Luke                           Unknown
4th:Kisha and Jen                              13:31
5th:Goth                                          13:53
6th:Flight time and Big easy                 14:00
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin          14:16

Emilinated:Jamie and Cara                    15:51

So next leg will start around 8/10 pm or 10/12 pm .... unless 24 hrs break ...

now to check flight out schedule ...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 29, 2010, 02:17:21 AM
Mind if I ask what Kynt & Vyxsin were penalised for. There is just so much great info and I can't seem to spot it!

Thanks guys!   :hearts:

On the plus side, my three favorites (Goths, Mallory/Gary and Kisha & Jen) survive but my other favorite is now gone. :( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 29, 2010, 02:18:11 AM
 :'(

Jaime & Cara gone
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 29, 2010, 02:19:05 AM
Another Team I wanna see to go went lol
they had to hate china. They wanna Bomb them now...
It must be the driver again lmao

Hope Kisha/Jen have different ideas
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: cabioTAR on November 29, 2010, 02:19:25 AM
Mind if I ask what Kynt & Vyxsin were penalised for. There is just so much great info and I can't seem to spot it!

Thanks guys!   :hearts:

On the plus side, my three favorites (Goths, Mallory/Gary and Kisha & Jen) survive but my other favorite is now gone. :( :'(

they were last in previous leg. (NEL).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ausina on November 29, 2010, 02:19:58 AM
Mind if I ask what Kynt & Vyxsin were penalised for. There is just so much great info and I can't seem to spot it!

Thanks guys!   :hearts:

On the plus side, my three favorites (Goths, Mallory/Gary and Kisha & Jen) survive but my other favorite is now gone. :( :'(

30 mins of penalty time
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 29, 2010, 02:20:17 AM
time:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory   Unknown
3rd:Margie and Luke                           Unknown
4th:Kisha and Jen                              13:31
5th:Goth                                          13:53
6th:Flight time and Big easy                 14:00
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin          14:16

Emilinated:Jamie and Cara                    15:51

So next leg will start around 8/10 pm or 10/12 pm .... unless 24 hrs break ...

now to check flight out schedule ...

Why do you think the next will start around those times?Also,is that China time?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: cabioTAR on November 29, 2010, 02:22:03 AM
time:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory   Unknown
3rd:Margie and Luke                           Unknown
4th:Kisha and Jen                              13:31
5th:Goth                                          13:53
6th:Flight time and Big easy                 14:00
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin          14:16

Emilinated:Jamie and Cara                    15:51

 ...

So next leg will start around 8/10 pm or 10/12 pm .... unless 24 hrs break ...

now to check flight out schedule ...

Why do you think the next will start around those times?Also,is that China time?

Usually teams are getting 12 hours rest after checked in the Pitstop ..


It's China time
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 29, 2010, 02:24:13 AM
Mind if I ask what Kynt & Vyxsin were penalised for. There is just so much great info and I can't seem to spot it!

Thanks guys!   :hearts:

On the plus side, my three favorites (Goths, Mallory/Gary and Kisha & Jen) survive but my other favorite is now gone. :( :'(

they were last in previous leg. (NEL).

So is it a 'Marked for Elimination' penalty?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: cabioTAR on November 29, 2010, 02:26:37 AM
Mind if I ask what Kynt & Vyxsin were penalised for. There is just so much great info and I can't seem to spot it!

Thanks guys!   :hearts:

On the plus side, my three favorites (Goths, Mallory/Gary and Kisha & Jen) survive but my other favorite is now gone. :( :'(

they were last in previous leg. (NEL).

So is it a 'Marked for Elimination' penalty?

I think so ....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 29, 2010, 02:27:42 AM
Mind if I ask what Kynt & Vyxsin were penalised for. There is just so much great info and I can't seem to spot it!

Thanks guys!   :hearts:

On the plus side, my three favorites (Goths, Mallory/Gary and Kisha & Jen) survive but my other favorite is now gone. :( :'(

they were last in previous leg. (NEL).

So is it a 'Marked for Elimination' penalty?

I think so ....

Eww...

Why not SpeedBump? It's the most fair Penalty I can think of xD
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: cabioTAR on November 29, 2010, 02:28:52 AM
Mind if I ask what Kynt & Vyxsin were penalised for. There is just so much great info and I can't seem to spot it!

Thanks guys!   :hearts:

On the plus side, my three favorites (Goths, Mallory/Gary and Kisha & Jen) survive but my other favorite is now gone. :( :'(

they were last in previous leg. (NEL).

So is it a 'Marked for Elimination' penalty?

I think so ....

Eww...

Why not SpeedBump? It's the most fair Penalty I can think of xD

It's up to them (Production)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 29, 2010, 02:31:03 AM
Interesting - maybe they will use both the MFE and the Speed Bump this season - or else they are just minimising costs. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Levi Rinno on November 29, 2010, 02:32:02 AM
Theschnauzers, you speak so much sense lol. I also liked the fact that the cowboys genuinely seemed to enjoy the places the visited(well as much as one can given the circumstances)
Aw, good for you. *roll eyes*

RULES: Have RESPECT for each other, regardless of opinion. This of course includes no flaming/insulting other users and/or their posts.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2010, 02:34:33 AM
NO guys, If I read it right the original post about no speedbump was later described to be an error...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on November 29, 2010, 02:36:59 AM
Quote
Emilinated:Jamie and Cara                    15:51

The world grieves for their elimination. :'( (If you don't like Ja/Ca, don't comment to flame please)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NumfarPTB on November 29, 2010, 02:39:43 AM
Essentially, 3rd country visited, and TAR14 former racers are the ones falling like flies so far. It'll be interesting ES to watch out, as both A/K and M/M were together in TAR14 ES, but now will be joined with a team from their season that was not there.

So far:
Leg 1: Australia (with TBC)
Leg 2: Japan
Leg 3 and 4: China
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: cabioTAR on November 29, 2010, 02:45:01 AM
Essentially, 3rd country visited, and TAR14 former racers are the ones falling like flies so far. It'll be interesting ES to watch out, as both A/K and M/M were together in TAR14 ES, but now will be joined with a team from their season that was not there.

So far:
Leg 1: Australia (with TBC)
Leg 2: Japan
Leg 3 and 4: China

left Margie & Luke  ...

they may have new alliance R & M .... like R & M with K & M
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 29, 2010, 02:46:41 AM
Quote
Emilinated:Jamie and Cara                    15:51

The world grieves for their elimination. :'( (If you don't like Ja/Ca, don't comment to flame please)
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 29, 2010, 02:50:46 AM
I'm glad Jamie and Cara is elimination!!!!  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ausina on November 29, 2010, 02:53:11 AM
As far as the 4th leg of TAR18, 3 teams left (Amanda/kris, Mel/Mike, Jaime/Cara), and all the 3 teams are for S14. So will the next unlucky team from S14 as well?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: eragon on November 29, 2010, 02:53:51 AM
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Emilinated:Jamie and Cara                    15:51

The world grieves for their elimination. :'( (If you don't like Ja/Ca, don't comment to flame please)
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Agree with Cocoa.  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 29, 2010, 02:56:23 AM
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Emilinated:Jamie and Cara                    15:51

The world grieves for their elimination. :'( (If you don't like Ja/Ca, don't comment to flame please)
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Agree with Cocoa.  :'( :'( :'(

I think what makes me sad about Ja/Ca 's elim is because of Cara. I like Cara!!  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on November 29, 2010, 02:59:45 AM
we can have a balance
3 teams from S14 have already eliminated
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on November 29, 2010, 03:12:50 AM
As long as Margie and Luke stay in the race, I'm pleased. They are one of my fav. teams along with Jet&Cord and Zev&Justin.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 29, 2010, 03:18:57 AM
As long as Margie and Luke stay in the race, I'm pleased. They are one of my fav. teams along with Jet&Cord and Zev&Justin.
:tup:

I hope the next leg is one that'll also be abundant in spoilers!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: inquiring minds on November 29, 2010, 03:23:07 AM
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Emilinated:Jamie and Cara                    15:51

The world grieves for their elimination. :'( (If you don't like Ja/Ca, don't comment to flame please)
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

:ascared :ascared :'( :'( :'( :peek :peek :crybabe: :'( :'( :'( :waves: :waves:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 29, 2010, 03:25:48 AM
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Emilinated:Jamie and Cara                    15:51

The world grieves for their elimination. :'( (If you don't like Ja/Ca, don't comment to flame please)
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Agree with Cocoa.  :'( :'( :'(

I think what makes me sad about Ja/Ca 's elim is because of Cara. I like Cara!!  :lol:

eragon, I agree with you that..  of course, i like cara.. :) but Margie/Luke really see sad his friend alliance J/C...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin88 on November 29, 2010, 03:32:35 AM
So Leg 4 Finish order is looking like

One or more of Margie/Luke, Jamie/Cara, Gary/Mallory, Jet/Cord
Jen/Kisha
Kynt/Vyxsin(after 30 Minute Penalty)
Flight Time/Big Easy
Ron/Chris
Zev/Justin
One or more of Jamie/Cara, Gary/Mallory, Jet/Cord

Right?


And am I the only person who would like to see the Cowboys go :/


No more 30 min penalty, but yeah for cowboys or Jamie/Cara.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NumfarPTB on November 29, 2010, 03:35:48 AM
Essentially, 3rd country visited, and TAR14 former racers are the ones falling like flies so far. It'll be interesting ES to watch out, as both A/K and M/M were together in TAR14 ES, but now will be joined with a team from their season that was not there.

So far:
Leg 1: Australia (with TBC)
Leg 2: Japan
Leg 3 and 4: China

left Margie & Luke  ...

they may have new alliance R & M .... like R & M with K & M

Actually still 2 TAR14 teams left Luke & Marge and Kisha and Jen.

The rundown of remaining 8 teams (in season order) is now of:
TAR 12: Ron & Chris, Kynt & Vixxyn
TAR 14: Luke & Marge, Kisha and Jen
TAR 15: FT & BE, Zev & Justin
TAR 16: Jet & Cord
TAR 17: Gary & Mallory

As an additional data (if you're into them like me), Ja/Ca are the first final 3 team from this cast to be eliminated, the remaining final 3 teams are: Ron & Chris (TAR12 2nd place), Luke & Marge (TAR14 3rd place) and Jet & Cord (TAR16 2nd Place).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: cabioTAR on November 29, 2010, 03:43:25 AM
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Actually still 2 TAR14 teams left Luke & Marge and Kisha and Jen.



U r right .... missed that ...

thanks for the correction
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dreytotz on November 29, 2010, 03:48:36 AM
I really hope Jet & Cord will be eliminated!!!!!!!!!!!

Go go Ron & Chris! :jumpy:

 BTW Im new here, Im from the Philippines!  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 29, 2010, 03:51:32 AM
I really hope Jet & Cord will be eliminated!!!!!!!!!!!

Go go Ron & Chris! :jumpy:

 BTW Im new here, Im from the Philippines!  :tup:

WOW!! you are from the philippines.. Same me!!! I'm from philippines but now, Im in live Guam :) no, my favorite is cowboys but cowboys are very strong and players well.. I guess maybe Zev /justin or FT/BE will be eliminated... :)

Welcome RFF!! :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dreytotz on November 29, 2010, 03:58:06 AM
Essentially, 3rd country visited, and TAR14 former racers are the ones falling like flies so far. It'll be interesting ES to watch out, as both A/K and M/M were together in TAR14 ES, but now will be joined with a team from their season that was not there.

So far:
Leg 1: Australia (with TBC)
Leg 2: Japan
Leg 3 and 4: China

left Margie & Luke  ...

they may have new alliance R & M .... like R & M with K & M

Actually still 2 TAR14 teams left Luke & Marge and Kisha and Jen.

The rundown of remaining 8 teams (in season order) is now of:
TAR 12: Ron & Chris, Kynt & Vixxyn
TAR 14: Luke & Marge, Kisha and Jen
TAR 15: FT & BE, Zev & Justin
TAR 16: Jet & Cord
TAR 17: Gary & Mallory

As an additional data (if you're into them like me), Ja/Ca are the first final 3 team from this cast to be eliminated, the remaining final 3 teams are: Ron & Chris (TAR12 2nd place), Luke & Marge (TAR14 3rd place) and Jet & Cord (TAR16 2nd Place).



Im so happy that 3 teams from Season 14 were eliminated! Now Jet & Cord or Margie & Luke should go!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jps0228 on November 29, 2010, 04:06:34 AM
I really hope Jet & Cord will be eliminated!!!!!!!!!!!

Go go Ron & Chris! :jumpy:

 BTW Im new here, Im from the Philippines!  :tup:

Same! Welcome to RFF!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tutorial on November 29, 2010, 04:19:36 AM
Ron and Chris. ftw.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NotKaren on November 29, 2010, 05:48:08 AM
time:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory   Unknown
3rd:Margie and Luke                           Unknown
4th:Kisha and Jen                              13:31
5th:Goth                                          13:53
6th:Flight time and Big easy                 14:00
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin          14:16

Emilinated:Jamie and Cara                    15:51

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!  :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:

From this point on, I don't want the Cowboys, the Globetrotters or Margie/Luke to WIN, but I don't mind them being on my screen all that much (as long as they're not the final 3). This will be the longest I will have gone in any season with enjoying all remaining teams to some degree.

GO GARY!
Goths
Zev/Justin
Kisha/Jen
Ron/Christina

Jet/Cord
Margie/Luke

Quitters to the left.


I'm so glad I chose this season to spoil myself! With Jaime gone, I'm not worried about what happens next, I just hope the first five teams stay in it for as long as possible.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: allie303 on November 29, 2010, 07:20:45 AM
Well, considering Ron and Chris are in the bottom of the pack even in China, I would guess they are not in it for the long run  :lol: They are more than welcome to prove me wrong though.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: allie303 on November 29, 2010, 07:27:00 AM
Can't see the pics, Ausina.  :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on November 29, 2010, 07:28:37 AM
I'm hoping for a Gary & Mallory, Kisha & Jen and Kynt & Vyxsin Final Three (or the Globetrotters) :ghug: . I just hope the Cowboys :mechbull: are gone soon, as well as Margie & Luke. But I like the others! :hearts:

I wonder where the race might be going next? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ausina on November 29, 2010, 07:43:03 AM
Can't see the pics, Ausina.  :(

Fixed
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 29, 2010, 08:00:46 AM
Welcome to RFF dreytotz  !!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 29, 2010, 08:05:42 AM
Photos from tieba (baidu):

C U...
(http://www.opendrive.com/files/8456187_pwjSz/c%20u.jpg)

Great work! This season has been too easy thanks to our international correspondents.  :jumpy:

Do we know if Ja/Ca were U-turned?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 29, 2010, 08:15:17 AM
they were probaly U turned by The Goths.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 29, 2010, 08:20:34 AM
they were probaly U turned by The Goths.


Why not Kisha\Jen?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: woden on November 29, 2010, 08:35:34 AM
Hi, everyone!  :waves:

If you're new around here, welcome!

A reminder that if you're ever confused about what we know about the route or racers, you can always check the first post in the Timeline thread here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23631.msg570943.html#msg570943). There is also now a separate post to keep track of Racer sightings here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23631.msg570945.html#msg570945).

These posts are a summary of what we believe to be reliable information.

Happy spoiling!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 29, 2010, 08:43:16 AM
they were probaly U turned by The Goths.


Why not Kisha\Jen?

Goths know they have a half hour penalty,they were ahead of Kisha/Jen,and I assume the U turned came after getting finishing the detour and to another destination,Goths finished fast,so i assume they had pretty good ideas of (whos really behind them this time,besides Kisha/Jen have nothing against them,but I could be wrong,BUT THATS Most likely to be the case.I am suprised Ron/Chris rank so low in the legs in China.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 29, 2010, 08:44:04 AM
they were probaly U turned by The Goths.


Why not Kisha\Jen?

Goths know they have a half hour penalty,they were ahead of Kisha/Jen,and I assume the U turned came after getting finishing the detour and to another destination,Goths finished fast,so i assume they had pretty good ideas of (whos really behind them this time,besides Kisha/Jen have nothing against them,but I could be wrong,BUT THATS Most likely to be the case.I am suprised Ron/Chris rank so low in the legs in China.

It's possible.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 29, 2010, 08:45:42 AM
Hi, everyone!  :waves:

If you're new around here, welcome!

A reminder that if you're ever confused about what we know about the route or racers, you can always check the first post in the Timeline thread here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23631.msg570943.html#msg570943). There is also now a separate post to keep track of Racer sightings here (http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23631.msg570945.html#msg570945).

These posts are a summary of what we believe to be reliable information.

Happy spoiling!


Thanks from all of us woden, you make it easier for many to understand what is going on.  :yourock:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: docol on November 29, 2010, 08:51:52 AM
i just hope that Kisha & Jenn, The Globetrotters and the goths get in the final leg.....
i really hate margie/luke (specially luke)
i dislike the cowboys (they're boring as hell)
and i don't really care about the rest....

so sad to see jaime/cara go....  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on November 29, 2010, 09:08:46 AM
Which teams have been eliminated so far?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 29, 2010, 09:12:02 AM
Which teams have been eliminated so far?

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23691.msg578233.html#msg578233
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 29, 2010, 09:13:44 AM
The main thing to remember about any type of Race in which previous contestants r brought back 4 a 2nd run:
A team is not going 2 do the same exact things are place in the same exact order as they did or their initial Race. This can b mostly attributed 2 luck, good & bad.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: eragon on November 29, 2010, 10:16:10 AM
LOL at production crews smiling at Jaime & Cara.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 29, 2010, 10:34:31 AM
I think that Myanmar is possible.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2010, 10:52:16 AM

Can we have an "excitement thread" for us to squeal, rant, hope, wish, etc. to our favorite teams? I mean, this thread is getting confusing because the "excitement" mixes with the pure/wild/educated speculations, which this thread is really made for.


YES!

Please read the new Simple Rules post covering this...and thanks to you, DrRox, and others who made this suggestion!

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23776.msg578293.html#msg578293
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 29, 2010, 11:20:44 AM
NO guys, If I read it right the original post about no speedbump was later described to be an error...
could it be that K&V received a 30-minute penalty for taking the wrong form of transportation?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 29, 2010, 11:27:33 AM
No.. They still came in last and that 30 minute would have added to their release time .
It's Mark for Elimination Again. I guess Speedbumps is too easy. I mean Lol How Ridiculous they always come up. Goths did Yoga in Tar12. T.K & Rachel caught up finishing Speedbump with 20 min. Cowboys delivering Tea in Tar 16. Michael & Kevin sitting on Ice for only 10 Minute.

Everyone Prefer 30 min Penalty if not first. Much more interesting. the last team still has disadvantage
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 29, 2010, 11:29:56 AM
No.. They still came in last and that 30 minute would have added to their release time .
It's Mark for Elimination Again. I guess Speedbumps is too easy. I mean Lol How Ridiculous they always come up. Goths did Yoga in Tar12. T.K & Rachel caught up finishing Speedbump with 20 min. Cowboys delivering Tea in Tar 16. Michael & Kevin sitting on Ice for only 10 Minute.

Everyone Prefer 30 min Penalty if not first. Much more interesting. the last team still has disadvantage

I was not a big fan of the "Marked for Elimination" version until I saw Speed Bumps. Since the writers don't want to make Speed Bumps harder, Marked for Elimination is the best idea.

You forgot about Louie and Michael throwing pennies, I found that one to be ridiculous as well.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on November 29, 2010, 11:30:40 AM
No.. They still came in last and that 30 minute would have added to their release time .
It's Mark for Elimination Again. I guess Speedbumps is too easy. I mean Lol How Ridiculous they always come up. Goths did Yoga in Tar12. T.K & Rachel caught up finishing Speedbump with 20 min. Cowboys delivering Tea in Tar 16. Michael & Kevin sitting on Ice for only 10 Minute.

Everyone Prefer 30 min Penalty if not first. Much more interesting. the last team still has disadvantage

Read the thread again and you'll see there are lots of people who like the Speedbump penalty :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kelsey_x on November 29, 2010, 11:31:24 AM
No.. They still came in last and that 30 minute would have added to their release time .
It's Mark for Elimination Again. I guess Speedbumps is too easy. I mean Lol How Ridiculous they always come up. Goths did Yoga in Tar12. T.K & Rachel caught up finishing Speedbump with 20 min. Cowboys delivering Tea in Tar 16. Michael & Kevin sitting on Ice for only 10 Minute.

Everyone Prefer 30 min Penalty if not first. Much more interesting. the last team still has disadvantage

I was not a big fan of the "Marked for Elimination" version until I saw Speed Bumps. Since the writers don't want to make Speed Bumps harder, Marked for Elimination is the best idea.

What was Marked For Elimination?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Heliox on November 29, 2010, 11:31:42 AM
Amazing information coming along. And I would imagine that they are probably done with China for now. So would they fly out of Lijang/Kunming?

Is there and international airport nearby, or a regional airport that they will take connections through. My speculation is that they are done with Asia and I think they will move across to Europe and then down to the warmer climate of Africa or maybe even south America for the ending of the race. Hopefully they will hit all the continents this season.. hmm, any chance of an Antarctic cruise to hit the only continent they haven't traveled to?

Gary and Mallory are running a strong race. Perhaps this back to back seasons has kept them hungry, and glad of it. And I can see Gallory and the Cowboys making friend/alliance.

Personally, I would love to see Big Easy/FT leave next and from then on, I will be happy with just about anyone winning this.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: laimis on November 29, 2010, 11:43:39 AM
No.. They still came in last and that 30 minute would have added to their release time .
It's Mark for Elimination Again. I guess Speedbumps is too easy. I mean Lol How Ridiculous they always come up. Goths did Yoga in Tar12. T.K & Rachel caught up finishing Speedbump with 20 min. Cowboys delivering Tea in Tar 16. Michael & Kevin sitting on Ice for only 10 Minute.

Everyone Prefer 30 min Penalty if not first. Much more interesting. the last team still has disadvantage

I was not a big fan of the "Marked for Elimination" version until I saw Speed Bumps. Since the writers don't want to make Speed Bumps harder, Marked for Elimination is the best idea.

What was Marked For Elimination?


Kynt & Vyxsin
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 29, 2010, 12:22:11 PM
I read The Baidu thread . So different perspective. I don't like ant of speedbumps so far
No.. They still came in last and that 30 minute would have added to their release time .
It's Mark for Elimination Again. I guess Speedbumps is too easy. I mean Lol How Ridiculous they always come up. Goths did Yoga in Tar12. T.K & Rachel caught up finishing Speedbump with 20 min. Cowboys delivering Tea in Tar 16. Michael & Kevin sitting on Ice for only 10 Minute.

Everyone Prefer 30 min Penalty if not first. Much more interesting. the last team still has disadvantage

Read the thread again and you'll see there are lots of people who like the Speedbump penalty :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 29, 2010, 01:20:02 PM
No.. They still came in last and that 30 minute would have added to their release time .
It's Mark for Elimination Again. I guess Speedbumps is too easy. I mean Lol How Ridiculous they always come up. Goths did Yoga in Tar12. T.K & Rachel caught up finishing Speedbump with 20 min. Cowboys delivering Tea in Tar 16. Michael & Kevin sitting on Ice for only 10 Minute.

Everyone Prefer 30 min Penalty if not first. Much more interesting. the last team still has disadvantage

I was not a big fan of the "Marked for Elimination" version until I saw Speed Bumps. Since the writers don't want to make Speed Bumps harder, Marked for Elimination is the best idea.

What was Marked For Elimination?

Marked for Elimination is a version of the non-elimination leg that requires the NEL team 2 incurr a 30-min penalty if they did not check in first in the following leg. This was originally the second version of the NEL, but it has been brought back.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kelsey_x on November 29, 2010, 01:39:50 PM
No.. They still came in last and that 30 minute would have added to their release time .
It's Mark for Elimination Again. I guess Speedbumps is too easy. I mean Lol How Ridiculous they always come up. Goths did Yoga in Tar12. T.K & Rachel caught up finishing Speedbump with 20 min. Cowboys delivering Tea in Tar 16. Michael & Kevin sitting on Ice for only 10 Minute.

Everyone Prefer 30 min Penalty if not first. Much more interesting. the last team still has disadvantage

I was not a big fan of the "Marked for Elimination" version until I saw Speed Bumps. Since the writers don't want to make Speed Bumps harder, Marked for Elimination is the best idea.

What was Marked For Elimination?

Marked for Elimination is a version of the non-elimination leg that requires the NEL team 2 incurr a 30-min penalty if they did not check in first in the following leg. This was originally the second version of the NEL, but it has been brought back.

Thank you :]
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 29, 2010, 01:41:49 PM
No.. They still came in last and that 30 minute would have added to their release time .
It's Mark for Elimination Again. I guess Speedbumps is too easy. I mean Lol How Ridiculous they always come up. Goths did Yoga in Tar12. T.K & Rachel caught up finishing Speedbump with 20 min. Cowboys delivering Tea in Tar 16. Michael & Kevin sitting on Ice for only 10 Minute.

Everyone Prefer 30 min Penalty if not first. Much more interesting. the last team still has disadvantage

I was not a big fan of the "Marked for Elimination" version until I saw Speed Bumps. Since the writers don't want to make Speed Bumps harder, Marked for Elimination is the best idea.

What was Marked For Elimination?

Marked for Elimination is a version of the non-elimination leg that requires the NEL team 2 incurr a 30-min penalty if they did not check in first in the following leg. This was originally the second version of the NEL, but it has been brought back.

Thank you :]

 :welcome3: 2 RFF!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2010, 02:26:52 PM
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Marked for Elimination is a version of the non-elimination leg that requires the NEL team 2 incurr a 30-min penalty if they did not check in first in the following leg. This was originally the second version of the NEL, but it has been brought back.

I believe weihen said that was a miscommunication...let's check? I am not yet convinced of that unless there was something I missed. ???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 29, 2010, 02:33:54 PM
where did wei said that :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 29, 2010, 04:08:01 PM
So,does anyone have any guesses as to roughly how long ago this leg started?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 29, 2010, 04:12:10 PM
24 hours ago.
They finished tine till now Around 13 hours
they should be starting next leg. But d the lake open at night? if not 24 hours?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 29, 2010, 04:16:24 PM
24 hours ago.
They finished tine till now Around 13 hours
they should be starting next leg. But d the lake open at night? if not 24 hours?

Oh sorry!I worded it badly.I meant to ask what time the next leg(leg5?)starts?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on November 29, 2010, 04:45:08 PM
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Marked for Elimination is a version of the non-elimination leg that requires the NEL team 2 incurr a 30-min penalty if they did not check in first in the following leg. This was originally the second version of the NEL, but it has been brought back.

I believe weihen said that was a miscommunication...let's check? I am not yet convinced of that unless there was something I missed. ???

I was browsing through and remembered he said Goths reached early but had to wait for 30 mins before check-in.. i'm not sure.

But of course, a Speedbump is good... :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 29, 2010, 05:37:24 PM
They got too many complaints that Speedbumps were too easy
and it doesn't have significant affect on the race most of the time
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on November 29, 2010, 05:45:19 PM
They got too many complaints that Speedbumps were too easy
and it doesn't have significant affect on the race most of the time

Most importantly, Marked for Elimination is absolutely free!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Heliox on November 29, 2010, 05:59:25 PM
I think that marked for elimination increases the drama that can be portrayed about a team being in danger. Teams have been able to move so quickly through speed bumps that there is no suspense when you see the teams lose little or no place in the standing.

By creating the 30min penalty at the end, they can edit the finish to be more dramatic. Think about all the penalties given over the seasons, you are never sure how far ahead or behind the other teams are at the end, so you are never sure whether the penalty will truly affect them.

And the penalty also creates a disadvantage in starting later in the following leg as well.

I like it better than the speed bump.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on November 29, 2010, 06:00:49 PM
does that mean jaime and cara are eliminated  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: USsoccer on November 29, 2010, 06:09:03 PM
They got too many complaints that Speedbumps were too easy
and it doesn't have significant affect on the race most of the time

Most importantly, Marked for Elimination is absolutely free!

I think the only Speedbump worth calling it that was the Elephant painting in S14, taking into consideration that the flight attendants had 20 min traffic each way on top of the painting... and still only lost by 2 min. Definitely beats sitting on an ice chair for 10 min.... The flight attendants would have beaten Mike and Mark with a marked for elimination and who knows...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on November 29, 2010, 06:39:52 PM
I think the only Speedbump worth calling it that was the Elephant painting in S14, taking into consideration that the flight attendants had 20 min traffic each way on top of the painting... and still only lost by 2 min. Definitely beats sitting on an ice chair for 10 min.... The flight attendants would have beaten Mike and Mark with a marked for elimination and who knows...

I agree.  :tup: Christie &  Jodi were awesome!  ;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on November 29, 2010, 06:39:55 PM
does that mean Jaime and Cara are eliminated  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on November 29, 2010, 06:40:46 PM
does that mean Jaime and Cara are eliminated  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Apparently so.  :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: MelandMikeFan on November 29, 2010, 06:50:09 PM
Are Mel and Mike still in the race?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on November 29, 2010, 06:52:07 PM
Are Mel and Mike still in the race?

Apparently not.  :(

P.S   :welcome3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: MelandMikeFan on November 29, 2010, 06:54:04 PM
How many legs did they make it through?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on November 29, 2010, 06:56:36 PM
How many legs did they make it through?

IIRC, they are allegedly the second team to be eliminated. Maybe Leg 2/3.  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 29, 2010, 06:58:50 PM
All newbies...
 :bigwelcome 2 RFF!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2010, 07:00:04 PM
Full info is available here:

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21999.0.html

:welcome: to RFF MelandMikeFan!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: MelandMikeFan on November 29, 2010, 07:23:05 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Chateau d If on November 29, 2010, 07:26:18 PM
Instead of Speedbumps, Marked for Elimination, time penalties, etc,  Let's just go back to taking away the clothes:    :hero:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: woden on November 29, 2010, 07:43:35 PM
[
Marked for Elimination is a version of the non-elimination leg that requires the NEL team 2 incurr a 30-min penalty if they did not check in first in the following leg. This was originally the second version of the NEL, but it has been brought back.

I believe weihen said that was a miscommunication...let's check? I am not yet convinced of that unless there was something I missed. ???

I believe we had a witness who saw Kynt/Vyxsin arrive the next leg (not in first), allowing Kisha/Jen to check in ahead of them? I thought this was our confirmation of the return of the MFE penalty?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on November 29, 2010, 08:00:17 PM
Not necessarily. The Goths could have incurred a penalty for not following a rule, and had to wait. I think the biggest thing going for MFE instead of a Speedbump is that Uncle Bao or mad_joe, idr which one, told weihen that Phil said something about being MFE at the end of China Leg 1 IIRC.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: cabioTAR on November 29, 2010, 08:02:43 PM
they should started already for new leg ... around 8/10 pm or 10/12 pm last nite ...

any sightings at pitstart?

Last Pitstop

time:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory   Unknown
3rd:Margie and Luke                           Unknown
4th:Kisha and Jen                              13:31
5th:Goth                                          13:53
6th:Flight time and Big easy                 14:00
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin          14:16

Pitstart

time:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory   Maype 8/10 pm or 10/12pm
3rd:Margie and Luke                           
4th:Kisha and Jen                              01:31 am
5th:Goth                                          01:53 am
6th:Flight time and Big easy                 02:00 am
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin          02:16 am

if not, then we have 24 hrs rest ...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: USsoccer on November 29, 2010, 08:10:06 PM
they should started already for new leg ... around 8/10 pm or 10/12 pm last nite ...

any sightings at pitstart?

Last Pitstop

time:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory   Unknown
3rd:Margie and Luke                           Unknown
4th:Kisha and Jen                              13:31
5th:Goth                                          13:53
6th:Flight time and Big easy                 14:00
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin          14:16

Pitstart

time:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory   Maype 8/10 pm or 10/12pm
3rd:Margie and Luke                           
4th:Kisha and Jen                              01:31 am
5th:Goth                                          01:53 am
6th:Flight time and Big easy                 02:00 am
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin          02:16 am

if not, then we have 24 hrs rest ...

18 hrs would make more sense, starting mid morning...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: cabioTAR on November 29, 2010, 08:18:48 PM


18 hrs would make more sense, starting mid morning...

If this is going to happen, then they just starting couple hours ago...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on November 29, 2010, 08:20:44 PM
This cannot be repeated enough times. Production no longer follows fixed hours for Pit Start releases. It could be 12h, it could be 36h, it could be 25h, 14min and 49s if they wanted it to be. They no longer go by simple fractions of the 24h day.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: cabioTAR on November 29, 2010, 08:30:01 PM
This cannot be repeated enough times. Production no longer follows fixed hours for Pit Start releases. It could be 12h, it could be 36h, it could be 25h, 14min and 49s if they wanted it to be. They no longer go by simple fractions of the 24h day.

IC ....

anyone at pit start?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 29, 2010, 08:35:37 PM
This cannot be repeated enough times. Production no longer follows fixed hours for Pit Start releases. It could be 12h, it could be 36h, it could be 25h, 14min and 49s if they wanted it to be. They no longer go by simple fractions of the 24h day.

IC ....

anyone at pit start?

Production moves those around too.......not always in the same place.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on November 29, 2010, 08:37:33 PM
they should started already for new leg ... around 8/10 pm or 10/12 pm last nite ...

any sightings at pitstart?

Last Pitstop

time:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory   Unknown
3rd:Margie and Luke                           Unknown
4th:Kisha and Jen                              13:31
5th:Goth                                          13:53
6th:Flight time and Big easy                 14:00
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin          14:16

Pitstart

time:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory   Maype 8/10 pm or 10/12pm
3rd:Margie and Luke                           
4th:Kisha and Jen                              01:31 am
5th:Goth                                          01:53 am
6th:Flight time and Big easy                 02:00 am
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin          02:16 am

if not, then we have 24 hrs rest ...

that order line? confirm?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on November 29, 2010, 08:43:40 PM
do u guys now what country they are going to next  :duno: :duno: :duno: :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2010, 08:47:14 PM
[
Marked for Elimination is a version of the non-elimination leg that requires the NEL team 2 incurr a 30-min penalty if they did not check in first in the following leg. This was originally the second version of the NEL, but it has been brought back.

I believe weihen said that was a miscommunication...let's check? I am not yet convinced of that unless there was something I missed. ???

I believe we had a witness who saw Kynt/Vyxsin arrive the next leg (not in first), allowing Kisha/Jen to check in ahead of them? I thought this was our confirmation of the return of the MFE penalty?


Again, I am not sure? I just remember weihen correcting himself here:

Some add information:
No speedbump this season,goth must come first next leg or they will receive a 30-mins  penalty.

I'm sorry he said he isn't sure about this...but he heard sth about 30mins.

So I think we need to see if weihen can confirm this now? Might be a MFE or might be a mistake penalty....just want to be SURE!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 29, 2010, 09:00:05 PM
According to Weihen Myanmar is a possiblity! :yess:

I just guess...no proof.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 29, 2010, 09:02:39 PM
According to Weihen Myanmar is a possiblity! :yess:

I just guess...no proof.

Myanmar is not the kind of place for the race to visit right now, political unrest and controversy is still there.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 29, 2010, 09:05:56 PM
I thnik it's a 24hrs pitstop...since teams started 4th leg in Lijiang right now after 3rd leg(this is not a rolling pitstop)...they should have a  long time rest.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: graytex on November 29, 2010, 09:09:34 PM
Myanmar is highly unlikely.  Politically not the place to go, and not the easiest country to get permission to visit.

In the past 6 season, we've had 3-5 legs in Asia.  We've now had 4 so next leg could still be in Asia.  Europe is a very likely possibility.  The Middle East has lately been in the races filmed in the summer for some reason, so that seems a little less likely.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: cabioTAR on November 29, 2010, 09:11:37 PM
I thnik it's a 24hrs pitstop...since teams started 4th leg in Lijiang right now after 3rd leg(this is not a rolling pitstop)...they should have a  long time rest.

where is the nearest International Airport in Kunming?

I know there is AirAsia flight to KL ...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on November 29, 2010, 09:20:05 PM
I thnik it's a 24hrs pitstop...since teams started 4th leg in Lijiang right now after 3rd leg(this is not a rolling pitstop)...they should have a  long time rest.

where is the nearest International Airport in Kunming?

I know there is AirAsia flight to KL ...

its  Kunming Wujiaba International Airport it in Kumming here is a link  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunming_Wujiaba_International_Airport  :tup:
[/quote]
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: cabioTAR on November 29, 2010, 09:27:03 PM
According to Weihen Myanmar is a possiblity! :yess:

I just guess...no proof.

Ok i was assuming you had some sort of source.

1  direct flight to Yangoon ...

RGN Yangon    CA 905    Air China International    1:20 PM

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ltvols on November 29, 2010, 09:49:26 PM
i think this is the right forum....says "speculation" and I'm completely speculating here but I found this article and wonder if it's clues of where the teams may be going this time.


“We’re thrilled the audience watching us sprint around the globe each week will continue to witness the breathtaking landscapes that serve as our backdrops, only now in high definition. Whether we’re racing alongside the crystal-white peaks of the Arctic Circle, the neon-lined skyscrapers of Japan, or the color-drenched domes of the Russian Kremlin, fans will enjoy a heightened viewing experience as we bring the world to their couch every Sunday night,” said Executive Producer and co-Creator Bertram van Munster."

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cbs-amazing-race-set-to-return-in-spring-in-hd-at-last/
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace n00b on November 29, 2010, 09:58:30 PM
i think this is the right forum....says "speculation" and I'm completely speculating here but I found this article and wonder if it's clues of where the teams may be going this time.


“We’re thrilled the audience watching us sprint around the globe each week will continue to witness the breathtaking landscapes that serve as our backdrops, only now in high definition. Whether we’re racing alongside the crystal-white peaks of the Arctic Circle, the neon-lined skyscrapers of Japan, or the color-drenched domes of the Russian Kremlin, fans will enjoy a heightened viewing experience as we bring the world to their couch every Sunday night,” said Executive Producer and co-Creator Bertram van Munster."

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cbs-amazing-race-set-to-return-in-spring-in-hd-at-last/

that does sound suspicious since they went to Japan, but it could easily be a coincidence.  I did have a feeling they'd go to the artic circle for some reason, though I have no clue why.  But they were just in Russia on season 17.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 29, 2010, 10:25:07 PM
Departing international flights from Kunming, China.....I am adding any flights to Hong Kong, since it is such a good hub.......

Nov 29....
Yangon (Rangoon, Myrnmar)  0400
Bangkok    0810
Yangon      0840
Hong Kong 0910
Vientiane, Laos  0940
Dhaka, Bangladesh  1250
Vientiane      1330
Bangkok      1520
Hong Kong   1525
Hong Kong   1930
Singapore     2240
Seoul            2350
Kolkata (Calcutta)  2355

November 30......basically the same with these added destinations
Mandalay, Myrnmar  0855
Mandalay   1355
Colombo, Sri Lanka   1620
Taipei          1620
Dhaka        2000
Hanoi         2115

I would think the most likely places would be.......since the race is trending west to east.
Bangkok......for either stop in Thailand or connections to other places to the West
Dhaka........connections to India and Middle East and other places to the West.
Singapore.....for the same reasons as Bangkok.......lots of long distance connections to other places to the West
Kolkata......another connection to India......but not sure about connectivity out of their airport there or stability in India as a whole.....TAR hasnt been to India in a while.....since TAR 14 I think.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on November 29, 2010, 10:25:56 PM
i think this is the right forum....says "speculation" and I'm completely speculating here but I found this article and wonder if it's clues of where the teams may be going this time.


“We’re thrilled the audience watching us sprint around the globe each week will continue to witness the breathtaking landscapes that serve as our backdrops, only now in high definition. Whether we’re racing alongside the crystal-white peaks of the Arctic Circle, the neon-lined skyscrapers of Japan, or the color-drenched domes of the Russian Kremlin, fans will enjoy a heightened viewing experience as we bring the world to their couch every Sunday night,” said Executive Producer and co-Creator Bertram van Munster."

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cbs-amazing-race-set-to-return-in-spring-in-hd-at-last/

Sounds TAR 17-ish, so I expect just a general description. Thanks! Will move it to media....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dojima on November 29, 2010, 10:49:12 PM
I wouldn't count out Kolkata either. TAR has a love affair with India.  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 29, 2010, 11:33:06 PM
Do we have any idea of when the next leg will start?

There have been sevearal posts in this thread regarding this.......it is whenever BVM wants it to start....and we have no idea what he will do......

I did find an interesting flight combination.......a TAR sort of flight connection.....

MU 555   2355-2350    KUN-CCU    Kunming to Kolkatta
LH  751   0240-0835    CCU-FRA    Kolkata   to Frankfort

This flight is just pure speculation.......nothing more.....just an interesting piece of trivial data.......it just made me smile when I saw it
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 29, 2010, 11:51:09 PM
Next country maybe a country in southeast Asia...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on November 30, 2010, 12:09:28 AM
Personally, and this is just my opinion, I think we're done with Southeast Asia unless it's a leg in Laos; I think this Race may do something different towards the end, such as a leg or two in South America and then fly north back to the U.S. This could mean Africa and no Europe, but I could see India, Northeast Africa, Europe, South America, and then home. There are enough legs and potential double legs to do it, and you would think BVM would want to challenge these returning teams a bit more than the average cast.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ltvols on November 30, 2010, 12:33:05 AM


no one knows anything until the racers are spotted somewhere doing something.  then, a tweet, a pic, a blog, or a sighting will reveal where they are, where they are going, what they are doing, etc....   Once that happens, intuition sets in and the "master" spoilers get to work on the specific legs. 

That's how this site works.  It took me a few seasons to grasp that concept.  Now, it's fun to sit back and watch (and respect) all the hard work that goes on here at RFF.  These people here are amazing! 

I will add, the first few legs of this race have been spoiled like no other.  Not only have they been awesomely spoiled, we're now spoiled!  HAHA....   When it happens it's like the most beautiful bow tied onto the most beautiful package ever.   :colors  Usually, we just get a beautifully wrapped package.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 30, 2010, 12:38:04 AM
If they want to go to an Indian-style country,SriLanka is a good place.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: boy mascubado on November 30, 2010, 01:03:57 AM
Maldives! Maldives! i think there's a direct flight also from Kunming? China Eastern? I really want them here to come because ill be out of here in this country this coming Dec. 4th...   :jumpy: :keeta:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on November 30, 2010, 01:22:35 AM
:rodeo

Cowboys! haha!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 30, 2010, 04:05:33 AM
Teams should be in airport by now or on their way.
Should be flying to Hongkong-Beijing-Guangzhou. than to another destination.
my guess their already in one of the 3 destination .
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 30, 2010, 05:24:33 AM
Teams should be in airport by now or on their way.
Should be flying to Hongkong-Beijing-Guangzhou. than to another destination.
my guess their already in one of the 3 destination .

Let's hope the next destination is one where we will get sightings.Maybe not as many,but atleast so we know where they are. why do you say they should be flying to Hk,Beijing or Guangzhou?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 30, 2010, 05:40:04 AM
3 airports which have the most flights out to places.
they cant go any where else besides india asia in kunming and hardly any flights goes anywhere besides Asia
its much better anyway. Guangzhou/Hong Kong oonly 2-3 hour flight with whole range of options. Production crew and phil probaly already gone like that,they dont want to risk not getting on that flight,or had to wait for god noes how long if they do go to india. But my best guess is they need to go somewhere else. The closest biggest airport is via Guangzhou and Hongkong. I went To Dubai & Paris via Guangzhou.its pretty quick and less delays unless mist or rain, (hardly happens) . Guangzhou/HongKong/Beijing have the most flights out to places. Most likely they went to Guangzhou,because theres more flight from kunming,but they could get tickets in kunming and go hongkong instead.
But they might need to get to Guangzhou than to Hongkong,if its faster. Its all about speculation.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 30, 2010, 05:44:42 AM
3 airports which have the most flights out to places.
they cant go any where else besides india asia in kunming and hardly any flights goes anywhere besides Asia
its much better anyway. Guangzhou/Hong Kong oonly 2-3 hour flight with whole range of options. Production crew and phil probaly already gone like that,they dont want to risk not getting on that flight,or had to wait for god noes how long if they do go to india. But my best guess is they need to go somewhere else. The closest biggest airport is via Guangzhou and Hongkong. I went To Dubai & Paris via Guangzhou.its pretty quick and less delays unless mist or rain, (hardly happens) . Guangzhou/HongKong/Beijing have the most flights out to places. Most likely they went to Guangzhou,because theres more flight from kunming,but they could get tickets in kunming and go hongkong instead.
But they might need to get to Guangzhou than to Hongkong,if its faster. Its all about speculation.


 :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: spoddams on November 30, 2010, 06:34:18 AM
We'll be at one of the terminals in Dubai in around 16 hours, so will be looking out just in case... you never know (though I doubt it!)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Chateau d If on November 30, 2010, 10:38:43 AM
Do we have any idea of when the next leg will start?

Call Phil and ask him.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: selkie on November 30, 2010, 01:00:31 PM
I also suspect that safety in Sri Lanka is still a little iffy right now, even though the government seems to have smacked down the Tamils to a point of relatively low terrorism activity at the time of filming.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 30, 2010, 01:17:58 PM
someone spot them in Dubai.



Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 30, 2010, 01:33:32 PM
I wanna buy Slaves too =_=
someone spot them in Dubai.

Do you know that they're in Dubai for certain?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 30, 2010, 02:01:53 PM
I wanna buy Slaves too =_=
someone spot them in Dubai.

Do you know that they're in Dubai for certain?

no.even if they are we cant get much info anyway :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: pyryniemi on November 30, 2010, 02:21:51 PM
Jaime/Cara must be thrilled to come back to China  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 30, 2010, 02:23:54 PM
Jaime/Cara must be thrilled to come back to China  :lol:

They were most likely eliminated on the 2nd (their 4th ever) China leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 30, 2010, 02:24:32 PM
They saw it coming.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on November 30, 2010, 02:29:35 PM
See how there is not much tweets or facebook posts about the race, they could have gone to a destination where there isn't much internet.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on November 30, 2010, 02:45:03 PM
The leg should be finished by now.
Someone has gone home

7 Teams Remain
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on November 30, 2010, 03:09:45 PM
See how there is not much tweets or facebook posts about the race, they could have gone to a destination where there isn't much internet.

There's none at all!lol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 30, 2010, 05:20:01 PM
The leg should be finished by now.
Someone has gone home

7 Teams Remain

Teams r most likely PS'ing right now. Possibly after finishing the 5th leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on November 30, 2010, 05:44:13 PM
or they could have had a 36 hour pit stop
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on November 30, 2010, 06:54:44 PM
or they could have had a 36 hour pit stop

 :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin88 on November 30, 2010, 07:49:09 PM
I also suspect that safety in Sri Lanka is still a little iffy right now, even though the government seems to have smacked down the Tamils to a point of relatively low terrorism activity at the time of filming.

It's relatively safe, only thing might happen is  someone's fanny pack getting stolen or their fanny patted...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on November 30, 2010, 08:38:43 PM
its almost been 48 hours since they checked in.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on November 30, 2010, 08:39:59 PM
I also suspect that safety in Sri Lanka is still a little iffy right now, even though the government seems to have smacked down the Tamils to a point of relatively low terrorism activity at the time of filming.

It's relatively safe, only thing might happen is  someone's fanny pack getting stolen or their fanny patted...

yea right  :groan:
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Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on November 30, 2010, 08:41:04 PM
its almost been 48 hours since they checked in.

do u know where they went  :duno:
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Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ZBC Company on November 30, 2010, 08:58:50 PM
its almost been 48 hours since they checked in.

do u know where they went  :duno:

I was warned about this do not ask this question. Sorry if i sounded rude.

they was spot in dubai
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 30, 2010, 10:14:10 PM



they was spot in dubai

Any source?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on November 30, 2010, 10:24:57 PM
does anyone know the order of the teams came in on leg 3?  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on November 30, 2010, 10:43:22 PM
does anyone know the order of the teams came in on leg 3?  :duno:

We only know goth last but NEL.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: EagleSpirit0 on November 30, 2010, 11:49:29 PM
Hey all,

I don't know if it's been mentioned, but is it possible that they took a bus or a plane to Luang Prabang or Vientiane in Laos?  Kunming has direct flights to these cities, and it's been five legs without visiting a new country.  The routes are very popular the last time I checked, although I myself have never been on them.  The bus ride, if I remember correctly, is around 24 hours, but through absolutely gorgeous terrain.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 01, 2010, 12:34:42 AM
Someone following teams in Kunming said he heard production saying India is next.Not sure.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 01, 2010, 01:32:29 AM
He followed teams and took photo...I don't thnik he will lie...He heard production said India is next then his friend asked them:"Really?",production denied this right now and said they will know next destination until they went back to hotel...looked like India is very possible.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kiki on December 01, 2010, 04:12:45 AM
It' s been two days since they were last spotted. It's quite possible that they took a night flight to somewhere in Asia. Personally I would love if they took a long train ride, like those of old TAR, in India perhaps or in Vietnam. Does anybody know if there are any trains from Kunming to neighbouring countries?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 01, 2010, 05:28:56 AM
It' s been two days since they were last spotted. It's quite possible that they took a night flight to somewhere in Asia. Personally I would love if they took a long train ride, like those of old TAR, in India perhaps or in Vietnam. Does anybody know if there are any trains from Kunming to neighbouring countries?

They can travel by bus to Laos from Kunming.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kiki on December 01, 2010, 05:33:58 AM
They can travel by bus to Laos from Kunming.

A new country in TAR and one that would explain why there are no sightings (long trip, few tourists to spot them).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 01, 2010, 05:56:12 AM
This is getting stressful
2 Teams could have bit the dust already and still no sighting
Anyone but Ron Chris/ Margie/Luke Mallory/Gary Goths
But I assume one of them is gone..
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 01, 2010, 06:32:20 AM
This is getting stressful
2 Teams could have bit the dust already and still no sighting
Anyone but Ron Chris/ Margie/Luke Mallory/Gary Goths
But I assume one of them is gone..

How do you know this? Source?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ZBC Company on December 01, 2010, 07:23:44 AM
I don't know how credible is this, because it is dated 29th November.

From Twitter:

Watching Amazing Race shooting their 3rd episode in India. I miss incredible India!

There has not been any "3rd episode" (3rd leg) held in India.. this could be a lead.. let me go check.

The nearest similarity i can find to this would be the person might be referring to TARA Season 4 Episode 3, the leg was held in Sri Lanka.. and it's very easy to mix Sri Lanka and India up.

yeah so no india  let check with some india poeple that form india
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 01, 2010, 07:49:00 AM
I see now.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 01, 2010, 08:35:42 AM
I don't know how credible is this, because it is dated 29th November.

From Twitter:

Watching Amazing Race shooting their 3rd episode in India. I miss incredible India!

There has not been any "3rd episode" (3rd leg) held in India.. this could be a lead.. let me go check.

The nearest similarity i can find to this would be the person might be referring to TARA Season 4 Episode 3, the leg was held in Sri Lanka.. and it's very easy to mix Sri Lanka and India up.

But she said she was watching the "shooting"??
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: walkingpneumonia on December 01, 2010, 09:24:37 AM
Some fun winter weather hitting Europe right now - could make for interesting travel - if that's where they're headed next.
Lots of airport delays, closings and cancellations in the UK, Poland, Portugal, Germany, Spain.
http://tinyurl.com/2urxt7k
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: USsoccer on December 01, 2010, 10:01:18 AM
Some fun winter weather hitting Europe right now - could make for interesting travel - if that's where they're headed next.
Lots of airport delays, closings and cancellations in the UK, Poland, Portugal, Germany, Spain.
http://tinyurl.com/2urxt7k

That's why I don't think they are going to go to Central/Northern Europe. They probably go to Northern Africa or Southern Europe to finish the season up (after India or some other warm countries in between), or they hit Europe and then finish through South/Central America. If they had gone to Europe they wouldn't have started in late November. The weather is too unpredictable.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 01, 2010, 11:49:12 AM
People assume India is Oman
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: libertybell on December 01, 2010, 11:51:19 AM
No one knows where the teams have gone?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2010, 11:55:25 AM
No one knows where the teams have gone?

please  :readtt:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: walkingpneumonia on December 01, 2010, 12:18:29 PM
Some fun winter weather hitting Europe right now - could make for interesting travel - if that's where they're headed next.
Lots of airport delays, closings and cancellations in the UK, Poland, Portugal, Germany, Spain.
http://tinyurl.com/2urxt7k

That's why I don't think they are going to go to Central/Northern Europe. They probably go to Northern Africa or Southern Europe to finish the season up (after India or some other warm countries in between), or they hit Europe and then finish through South/Central America. If they had gone to Europe they wouldn't have started in late November. The weather is too unpredictable.
The European winter weather hasn't been a consideration in previous races that took place in winter. Some examples:
TAR 5 - February - Russia
TAR 7 - December - UK
TAR 9  - November - Russia
TAR 11  - December - Poland
TAR 14  - November - Russia - although it was a little earlier in winter  - but they were in Siberia.
TAR 16 - December - Germany and France
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: milanissimo on December 01, 2010, 02:18:38 PM
1 December  updated at 20:00
Edinburgh closed  until 6:00 (local time) on December 2
London Gatwick Airport closed  until 6:00 (local time) on December 2
Doncaster Sheffield closed  until 10.00 (local time) on December 2
Liverpool closed
Geneva  closed  until 6:00 (local time) on December 2
Milan Malpensa heavy snow, delays can occur
Basel closed
Paris CDG ORY delays  may occur for two December

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 01, 2010, 02:25:03 PM
If teams were meant to go to Europe, they may be on an extended delay due to this weather. However, a leg in Africa or southern Asia may have already occurred.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 01, 2010, 02:57:00 PM
1 December  updated at 20:00
Edinburgh closed  until 6:00 (local time) on December 2
London Gatwick Airport closed  until 6:00 (local time) on December 2
Doncaster Sheffield closed  until 10.00 (local time) on December 2
Liverpool closed
Geneva  closed  until 6:00 (local time) on December 2
Milan Malpensa heavy snow, delays can occur
Basel closed
Paris CDG ORY delays  may occur for two December




Thanks :) Glasgow Airport is open! They should come here even though it's snowing really badly. I would follow them regardless-unless they come on the 5th!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2010, 04:13:23 PM
We have no India, we have no Europe.....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 01, 2010, 06:59:44 PM
They will pop up somewhere.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 01, 2010, 07:06:56 PM
We have no India, we have no Europe.....

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on December 01, 2010, 07:27:20 PM
We have no India, we have no Europe.....



I believe Peach is telling the people jumping to conclusions that we have no evidence that TAR has gone to either India or Europe.

These unsupported claims have a way of being accepted as fact both here and at other sites. It's best to squash them early.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on December 01, 2010, 08:10:46 PM
I suspect somewhere secluded in Africa, i think they learnt their lesson from the last Allstars and will be flying to less TAR-known places to prevent spoilers from spilling out? :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2010, 08:15:55 PM
We had a twitter from someone who said she was watching shooting of Amazing race 3rd season in India.

The problem is...SHE WAS IN BANGKOK AT THE TIME. So I have no idea what she saw or meant, but it couldn't have been us.

And there is ZERO evidence at this point for Eurupe either...nothing, nada, zilch.

So step it up guys...we ALL need to be combing FB, twitters, blogs and photo groups....they are out there somewhere!!

India is of course possible! So is Africa! (They OWE me a leg there, lol!) So is Europe! But until we have evidence...we have no India....no Europe...no Africa!!

So go!! Find us some!  :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kwando1313 on December 01, 2010, 08:17:10 PM
What!!! No India or Africa or Europe! THIS ISN'T AN AMAZING RACE WITHOUT IT!!! :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2010, 08:18:53 PM
:groan:  Not YET!! They may be there....but until we SEE it, it doesn't count! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NoluckBoston on December 01, 2010, 08:28:35 PM
ignore.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 01, 2010, 09:01:36 PM
What! No India and Europe!? Maybe let me guess Russian or  interesting Turkey? I think Phil is must smart and never know anywhere go TAR:All stars!  :( :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarflyonthewall on December 01, 2010, 09:05:44 PM
Quote
I suspect somewhere secluded in Africa, i think they learnt their lesson from the last Allstars and will be flying to less TAR-known places to prevent spoilers from spilling out?

Sure. I mean, it worked in Sydney.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 01, 2010, 09:09:18 PM
Quote
I suspect somewhere secluded in Africa, i think they learnt their lesson from the last Allstars and will be flying to less TAR-known places to prevent spoilers from spilling out?

Sure. I mean, it worked in Sydney.

:funny: :funny: :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on December 01, 2010, 11:29:44 PM
Yikes! When we lose them for a long period of time it worries me that we will spot them without one of the good nice teams (Goths/Gallory)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin on December 01, 2010, 11:35:22 PM
Quote
I suspect somewhere secluded in Africa, i think they learnt their lesson from the last Allstars and will be flying to less TAR-known places to prevent spoilers from spilling out?

Sure. I mean, it worked in Sydney.

:funny: :funny: :funny:
According to sources, It is NOT going somewhere secluded ATM.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin on December 01, 2010, 11:38:31 PM
I wonder were they went. Laos?
No.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 01, 2010, 11:40:04 PM
Quote
I suspect somewhere secluded in Africa, i think they learnt their lesson from the last Allstars and will be flying to less TAR-known places to prevent spoilers from spilling out?

Sure. I mean, it worked in Sydney.

:funny: :funny: :funny:
According to sources, It is NOT going somewhere secluded ATM.

Do you know where they are?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on December 02, 2010, 06:11:44 AM
I guess we just have to wait and see where they are going, but I do hope they're coming to Europe.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 02, 2010, 09:12:09 AM
I guess we just have to wait and see where they are going, but I do hope they're coming to Europe.

Will you spoil for us if they go to Norway?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on December 02, 2010, 09:22:21 AM
I guess we just have to wait and see where they are going, but I do hope they're coming to Europe.

Will u spoil 4 us if they go 2 Norway?

Will definitely do my best. But since they were in Norway last season, I doubt they'll come here this season.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 02, 2010, 09:24:09 AM
I guess we just have to wait and see where they are going, but I do hope they're coming to Europe.

Will u spoil 4 us if they go 2 Norway?

Will definitely do my best. But since they were in Norway last season, I doubt they'll come here this season.

This is a logical assumption.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on December 02, 2010, 03:41:09 PM
I have no better ideas about where teams went for the next leg in AR18. I do want to throw in the possibility that the reverse of the famous "Flying Tigers" air route to bring supplies into Kunming for the Chinese Nationalist forces there was used. That route was "over the hump" of the Himalayas from northeast India to Kunming. The reverse would be from Kunming southwest to Kolkata or Dhaka. You also have to think about the possibility that World Race Productions used charter aircraft to avoid public scrutiny.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on December 02, 2010, 05:56:33 PM
They are probably in some desert, in some 3rd world country or something, otherwise I feel like they would have been spotted somewhere lol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 02, 2010, 06:30:48 PM
They are probably in some desert, in some 3rd world country or something, otherwise I feel like they would have been spotted somewhere lol

I know; the writers were very crafty to send teams to Australia and Asia first, since these continents draw a lot of sightings.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ZBC Company on December 02, 2010, 06:38:03 PM
They are probably in some desert, in some 3rd world country or something, otherwise I feel like they would have been spotted somewhere lol

I know; the writers were very crafty to send teams to Australia and Asia first, since these continents draw a lot of sightings.

Nable they hold in some dam airport
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 02, 2010, 08:04:57 PM
I have no better ideas about where teams went for the next leg in AR18. I do want to throw in the possibility that the reverse of the famous "Flying Tigers" air route to bring supplies into Kunming for the Chinese Nationalist forces there was used. That route was "over the hump" of the Himalayas from northeast India to Kunming. The reverse would be from Kunming southwest to Kolkata or Dhaka. You also have to think about the possibility that World Race Productions used charter aircraft to avoid public scrutiny.

Very nice points, apskip. In China Rush, they rode a bus from Kunming to Tengchong.....along the old route of the Chinese part of the Burma/Ledo roads and I wondered if they knew the history of that highway. Japanese control of that area caused the invent of "flying the Hump."

Someone speculated about taking a bus from Kunming to Vientiane, Laos.......my first thought was ...........yeah, thats what I want to do....take an overnight bus through the Loatian part of the Golden Triangle.........yeah......cant wait to do that. Maybe that is where they disappeared to...............naw, BVM wouldn't do that....he is too wise.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 02, 2010, 08:21:24 PM
5 continents again this season. Keep that in mind if we have any gaps in the route.

I just thought I would bring this over here from the Destinations Spoiler Thread......North America, Oceania, Aisa down........so now we have 2 out of 3 to go........Europe, Africa and S America.......
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gl14 on December 02, 2010, 08:22:55 PM
Just saw this on Survivorsucks:

Is it me or their Kamakura visit seem too good to be true especially that it's also one of the sites shown in the TAR Wii Game? (The Buddha one...)

Are they actually doing a season just to promote the game?



I think it's possible...

Can someone do a summary of all the locations? ???

Just got the game today. Each time I played the shorter 5 leg version, these were the routes I played:

- Vancouver, Canada > Lima, Peru > Cape Town, South Africa > Dubai (got eliminated)
- Lima, Peru > Paris, France > Delhi, India > Sydney, Australia (got eliminated)
- Caracas, Venezuela > Rome, Italy > Dubai > Auckland, New Zealand > Cape Town, South Africa > Caracas (I actually won the race in the end, came in first in Caracas)
- Cape Town, South Africa > Dubai > Athens, Greece > New York > Caracas, Venezuela > South Africa
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 02, 2010, 11:54:46 PM
Hey guys,

Hmm just a thought that ran across my mind.
How about checking out tweets etc from the south america? Perhaps they went to argentina? It's been a damn long time since they went there. Also, chile wld be a great location as well.

And just a question, does ppl arnd that area use twitter as frequently as the rest of the continent? (other than africa of cos haha)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace n00b on December 03, 2010, 12:06:52 AM
Hey guys,

Hmm just a thought that ran across my mind.
How about checking out tweets etc from the south america? Perhaps they went to argentina? It's been a damn long time since they went there. Also, chile wld be a great location as well.

And just a question, does ppl arnd that area use twitter as frequently as the rest of the continent? (other than africa of cos haha)

:groan:  For one thing, Africa isn't the same continent (though I'm not exactly sure which continent you're referring to).  Secondly, there are a lot of places in Africa that use the internet just as much as we do.  They have their occasional twitter addicts as well.



I think it's going to be funny when they're sighted somewhere really random and we're all like "how the hell did they end up there!?"
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: topaz on December 03, 2010, 05:29:55 AM
I wonder if they're already racing to these countries after China like: Bhutan, Nepal, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan before heading towards to Europe and/or Middle East?  Just my specs. :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: krabbe on December 03, 2010, 05:40:29 AM
I think it's possible they went to one of the Stan countries, with a return visit to Kazakhstan the most likely due to travel warning restrictions. From Kunming they could take a flight there via Urumqi in Xinjiang province.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kiki on December 03, 2010, 12:35:07 PM
I don't know if it's possible, but perhaps due to the weather situation in Europe the RACE had to stop for a while and they racers are kept somewhere? Or most probably they are in an African country where the people don't know about TAR so they don't report it. Can any of our TAR detectives tell us if there were enough sightings in the past when TAR visited Africa or other remote places?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 03, 2010, 12:40:50 PM
I don't know if it's possible, but perhaps due to the weather situation in Europe the RACE had to stop for a while and they racers are kept somewhere? Or most probably they are in an African country where the people don't know about TAR so they don't report it. Can any of our TAR detectives tell us if there were enough sightings in the past when TAR visited Africa or other remote places?

There were weather delays in Europe, but to my knowledge, those have now ended.
Teams are very hard to spot in Africa b\c of the lack of social networking general civilazation.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 03, 2010, 02:26:37 PM
Other TBC leg?

They've never done that before.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Snooky on December 03, 2010, 02:38:58 PM
Other TBC leg?

They've never done that before.
Family Edition even though they didn't originally plan it that way.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 03, 2010, 02:42:39 PM
Other TBC leg?

They've never done that before.
Family Edition even though they didn't originally plan it that way.

I had forgotten about the midpoint in the final leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: walkingpneumonia on December 03, 2010, 03:50:14 PM
Twitter post: Just spotted 4 teams from the amazing race at CCU. But more amazing is the fact that I managed to board me second flight.

(1 day ago)   -  CCU is Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose International Airport in west bengal

Interesting - there is a daily flight from Kunming to Kolkata. Lots of connecting possibilities vi Delhi...
Remember when Kolkata was Calcutta???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 03, 2010, 04:24:43 PM
And there is a very interesting Lufthanza non stop to FRA too, from Kalcutta.......never been there.....but I have been to Calcutta.......

 :keeta:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on December 03, 2010, 08:46:16 PM
TAR14 has double back-to-backs. ;) Thailand (Phuket and Bangkok) and China (Guilin, Beijing, Beijing)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 03, 2010, 08:52:16 PM
Sort of along with the general theme of this year.......I dont expect to see them visit any new countries either....no new racers and no new countries.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dojima on December 03, 2010, 09:20:30 PM
FWIW, more info from the Kolkata tweeter:

"2 guys w/ cowboy boy hats. 2 guys w/ curly hair. 2 really tall african-american women..."

Curly hair? Zev/Justin?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 03, 2010, 09:21:23 PM
FWIW, more info from the Kolkata tweeter:

"2 guys w/ cowboy boy hats. 2 guys w/ curly hair. 2 really tall african-american women..."
curly hair?
Looks like no M/M team with curly hair...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: woden on December 03, 2010, 09:24:00 PM
FWIW, more info from the Kolkata tweeter:

"2 guys w/ cowboy boy hats. 2 guys w/ curly hair. 2 really tall african-american women..."
curly hair?
Looks like no M/M team with curly hair...

Production? We have had spotters mistake sound guys for racers in the past.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on December 03, 2010, 09:26:54 PM
Something tells me there's a leg between Kolkatta and Kunming. Doubt it's Thailand, perhaps Laos?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Heliox on December 03, 2010, 09:34:34 PM
FWIW, more info from the Kolkata tweeter:

"2 guys w/ cowboy boy hats. 2 guys w/ curly hair. 2 really tall african-american women..."
curly hair?
Looks like no M/M team with curly hair...

UNLESS.. this year, instead of shaving your head at a fast forward, the team :lol3: had to have perms!  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 03, 2010, 09:35:02 PM
Something tells me there's a leg between Kolkatta and Kunming. Doubt it's Thailand, perhaps Laos?

Certainly possible.........but the teams he saw......could have been leaving Kalcutta too.....not arriving.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Slowhatch on December 03, 2010, 09:53:06 PM
Please excuse a noob question, but how do you interpret the tweet-time? If it's 02:07 at CCU, is that real local time? Zulu (Greenwich) time? Or something else?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 03, 2010, 09:56:24 PM
Please excuse a noob question, but how do you interpret the tweet-time? If it's 02:07 at CCU, is that real local time? Zulu (Greenwich) time? Or something else?

It depends on the time a person has their computer set too........all times on my twitter are CST .....then will be CDT time in March......so you have to transpose back.....I use a world clock to figure out what the time was when the orginal poster posted.......does that make sense?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: woden on December 03, 2010, 09:58:55 PM
Please excuse a noob question, but how do you interpret the tweet-time? If it's 02:07 at CCU, is that real local time? Zulu (Greenwich) time? Or something else?

I've heard non-EST people complain that their tweets always post in EST, but I don't know if it's just a matter of changing a setting?

Also, Dr. Rox, I think it's likely our spotter saw teams leaving Kolkata as he was also leaving Kolkata. Not certain, but likely, it seems to me.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on December 03, 2010, 10:11:18 PM
A less brain-tangling way of doing it would be to set your computer to Indian time, restart the browser, and everything will be in local time! (Just figured this out today. Heh.) If teams were leaving Kolkata there could only have been one leg so far...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 03, 2010, 10:16:45 PM
You can certainly do that, Neobie.......I just find it easier to have this one world time site online all the time when teams are racing.....it lists current local time in about 100 cities around the world, all on the same page at once. It also has a search window, so you can add a city that they do not list.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on December 03, 2010, 10:20:35 PM
Surely the 2 curly headed guys are production, Zev/Justin both have short hair.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 03, 2010, 10:46:54 PM
A couple days ago......I was constantly gettting tweets from all over SE Asia, in anticiption of the TARAsia finale.......today I am hardly getting any new hits when I search for Amazing Race on twitter........is this happening to anyone else....seems like Twitter cut off Indonesia, etc.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on December 03, 2010, 11:00:17 PM
Kisha/Jen are tall black ladies....?

There is a pic of Zev/Justin in China....hair is not long, or curly...at all.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: scARCYty on December 03, 2010, 11:17:28 PM
They're here in the Philippines. Joke. Hays, what a dream. Hope they can come though again, after the appearance of the country in the fifth season.

 :lol:
 
newbie here.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 03, 2010, 11:36:02 PM
Sort of along with the general theme of this year.......I dont expect to see them visit any new countries either....no new racers and no new countries.

I'm pretty sure they will at least visit 2-3 new countries this season.  I speculate that they could visit Central Africa like Gabon, Cameroon, or North Africa like Algeria; Central America and the Caribbean are long overdue for a revisit since seasons 7 and Family Edition.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 03, 2010, 11:39:00 PM
Sort of along with the general theme of this year.......I dont expect to see them visit any new countries either....no new racers and no new countries.

I'm pretty sure they will at least visit 2-3 new countries this season.  I speculate that they could visit Central Africa like Gabon, Cameroon, or North Africa like Algeria; Central America and the Caribbean are long overdue for a revisit since seasons 7 and Family Edition.

Refresh my memory.....are you not the one that said there was zero chance that Flight Time and Big Easy would be in TAR18?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 03, 2010, 11:43:55 PM
Sort of along with the general theme of this year.......I dont expect to see them visit any new countries either....no new racers and no new countries.

I'm pretty sure they will at least visit 2-3 new countries this season.  I speculate that they could visit Central Africa like Gabon, Cameroon, or North Africa like Algeria; Central America and the Caribbean are long overdue for a revisit since seasons 7 and Family Edition.

Refresh my memory.....are you not the one that said there was zero chance that Flight Time and Big Easy would be in TAR18?

Yes, that was before I saw the pictures of them in Sydney with the other teams.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin88 on December 03, 2010, 11:47:06 PM
Cord is kind of bald, Jet has curly black hair

PS: I can't tell the two of them apart...

Damn, I want them out.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on December 04, 2010, 12:13:31 AM
Surely the 2 curly headed guys are production, Zev/Justin both have short hair.

Theres a chance both grew their hair. But also to tall black ladies? it must be a communication error.

Zev and Justin both had the same hair from season 15 while in Sydney. Unless it grew really fast, it's not them.

The "tall black ladies" are Kisha and Jen. From what I could gather they both stand over 6 foot.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 04, 2010, 12:20:47 AM
Maybe Flight Time and Big Easy put on some Afro wigs to disguise themselves........ :yess:

or the Cowboys and Kisha/Jenn were eliminated and were on the way to ES with a couple of curly headed Production Assts......

The adjective "curly" is a pretty subjective term.....the orginal observer might have a somewhat different definition than other people trying to intrepret his comment. I do hope someone is sending him pics to try to identify, which I feel pretty sure is being done.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 04, 2010, 02:10:37 AM
Maybe Flight Time and Big Easy put on some Afro wigs to disguise themselves........ :yess:

or the Cowboys and Kisha/Jenn were eliminated and were on the way to ES with a couple of curly headed Production Assts......

The adjective "curly" is a pretty subjective term.....the orginal observer might have a somewhat different definition than other people trying to intrepret his comment. I do hope someone is sending him pics to try to identify, which I feel pretty sure is being done.

What?! Cowboys are elimination? Ken/Jen are elimination?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on December 04, 2010, 02:53:17 AM
Maybe Flight Time and Big Easy put on some Afro wigs to disguise themselves........ :yess:

or the Cowboys and Kisha/Jenn were eliminated and were on the way to ES with a couple of curly headed Production Assts......

The adjective "curly" is a pretty subjective term.....the orginal observer might have a somewhat different definition than other people trying to intrepret his comment. I do hope someone is sending him pics to try to identify, which I feel pretty sure is being done.

What?! Cowboys are elimination? Ken/Jen are elimination?

:)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Levi Rinno on December 04, 2010, 03:07:40 AM
Maybe Flight Time and Big Easy put on some Afro wigs to disguise themselves........ :yess:

or the Cowboys and Kisha/Jenn were eliminated and were on the way to ES with a couple of curly headed Production Assts......

The adjective "curly" is a pretty subjective term.....the orginal observer might have a somewhat different definition than other people trying to intrepret his comment. I do hope someone is sending him pics to try to identify, which I feel pretty sure is being done.

What?! Cowboys are elimination? Ken/Jen are elimination?

:)
That wouldn't suck.  Well, Kisha & Jen being gone would, but not Jet & Cord.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on December 04, 2010, 04:04:49 AM
A couple days ago......I was constantly gettting tweets from all over SE Asia, in anticiption of the TARAsia finale.......today I am hardly getting any new hits when I search for Amazing Race on twitter........is this happening to anyone else....seems like Twitter cut off Indonesia, etc.

Quote
Indonesia recognised as world's biggest Twitter addict

Research from comScore has concluded that Indonesia is the planet's most Twitter-addicted nation. According to the data, 20.8 percent of Indonesians online visited Twitter during June 2010, with the country scoring the highest percentage rate of Twitter usage amongst of any nation's online population.

Indonesian isn't the only Asian nation recognised as strong, from the continent Japan (5th with a 16.8% reach), Philippines (6th with a 14.8% reach), Singapore (9th with a 13.3%), South Korea (16th with a 9.3% reach), India (18th with a 8.0% reach) and Malaysia (19th with a 7.7% reach).

http://www.asiancorrespondent.com/jon-russell/research-proves-indonesia-is-world-s-biggest-twitter-addict

I guess not, DrRox. I read it about Indonesians being crazy addicts over social network and went to dig up this article. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 04, 2010, 05:57:02 AM
Maybe Flight Time and Big Easy put on some Afro wigs to disguise themselves........ :yess:

or the Cowboys and Kisha/Jenn were eliminated and were on the way to ES with a couple of curly headed Production Assts......

The adjective "curly" is a pretty subjective term.....the orginal observer might have a somewhat different definition than other people trying to intrepret his comment. I do hope someone is sending him pics to try to identify, which I feel pretty sure is being done.

What?! Cowboys are elimination? Ken/Jen are elimination?

:)

Where they now in leg? Indian? or anywhere?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on December 04, 2010, 06:06:46 AM
where are the teams now?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on December 04, 2010, 06:34:05 AM
where are the teams now?

I don't think anyone knows for sure where they are right now. Maybe in the African bush somewhere where they are hard to spot.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: matt0962 on December 04, 2010, 07:42:01 AM
FWIW, more info from the Kolkata tweeter:

"2 guys w/ cowboy boy hats. 2 guys w/ curly hair. 2 really tall african-american women..."
curly hair?
Looks like no M/M team with curly hair...

UNLESS.. this year, instead of shaving your head at a fast forward, the team :lol3: had to have perms!  :lol3:


 :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 04, 2010, 08:56:28 AM
I'm so glad we got another sighting!Hopefully we'll get more soon :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on December 04, 2010, 09:02:06 AM
I'm so glad we got another sighting!Hopefully we'll get more soon :)

I second that.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 04, 2010, 09:25:15 AM
I'm so glad we got another sighting!Hopefully we'll get more soon :)

I second that.

I third it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 04, 2010, 09:34:31 AM
FWIW, more info from the Kolkata tweeter:

"2 guys w/ cowboy boy hats. 2 guys w/ curly hair. 2 really tall african-american women..."

Curly hair? Zev/Justin?

In several of the Australian photos, I thought I saw production with curly hair.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 04, 2010, 10:00:56 AM
Maybe Flight Time and Big Easy put on some Afro wigs to disguise themselves........ :yess:

or the Cowboys and Kisha/Jenn were eliminated and were on the way to ES with a couple of curly headed Production Assts......

The adjective "curly" is a pretty subjective term.....the orginal observer might have a somewhat different definition than other people trying to intrepret his comment. I do hope someone is sending him pics to try to identify, which I feel pretty sure is being done.

What?! Cowboys are elimination? Ken/Jen are elimination?

Okay i do hope that the cowboys are still in. lol :)
And yeah, i agree with "curly" being a pretty subjective term haha!

but one thing.. arent eliminated teams suppose to head to the ES one by one..? haha!
not.. two at a time? haha!

I doubt it's a TAR first double elimination leg right? And i kinda doubt they're decoys as well. Since its pretty much predictable that 2 legs have passed since theyre last spotted, and 5 teams will b sent to the ES before decoys are being "dispatched", i guess the cowboys, the curly boys (?) and kesha/jen are safe? haha!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 04, 2010, 10:29:53 AM
Maybe Flight Time and Big Easy put on some Afro wigs to disguise themselves........ :yess:

or the Cowboys and Kisha/Jenn were eliminated and were on the way to ES with a couple of curly headed Production Assts......

The adjective "curly" is a pretty subjective term.....the orginal observer might have a somewhat different definition than other people trying to intrepret his comment. I do hope someone is sending him pics to try to identify, which I feel pretty sure is being done.

What?! Cowboys are elimination? Ken/Jen are elimination?

Okay i do hope that the cowboys are still in. lol :)
And yeah, i agree with "curly" being a pretty subjective term haha!

but one thing.. arent eliminated teams suppose to head to the ES one by one..? haha!
not.. two at a time? haha!

I doubt it's a TAR first double elimination leg right? And i kinda doubt they're decoys as well. Since its pretty much predictable that 2 legs have passed since theyre last spotted, and 5 teams will b sent to the ES before decoys are being "dispatched", i guess the cowboys, the curly boys (?) and kesha/jen are safe? haha!

This is a very interesting point to bring up.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 04, 2010, 11:34:45 AM
Maybe God want us to watch the show in FEB
to find out everythig. So he hidden the teams in his unviable cloak.

Margie/Luke Ron/Chris Gary/Mallory Kisha/Jen Cowboys  The Goths
Pretty sure one of my favouritr team is in final 3 lol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 04, 2010, 01:55:31 PM
where are the teams now?

If and when we know, the place to look is in the Live tweets thread or in the FIRST post of the Timeline thread.

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23631.0.html
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 04, 2010, 02:47:32 PM
Maybe God want us to watch the show in FEB
to find out everythig. So he hidden the teams in his unviable cloak.

Margie/Luke Ron/Chris Gary/Mallory Kisha/Jen Cowboys  The Goths
Pretty sure one of my favouritr team is in final 3 lol

It's probably true.. I'm sure Phil really smart and he really hidden the team in somewhere!
I hope so Margie/Luke, Ron/Chris, Gary/Mallory, Cowboys, the goths.
by the way, I never seen before curly hair (boys) in the teams!  :lol3: :lol3: okay, I don't know who is curly hair (boys)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 04, 2010, 04:17:30 PM
Kevin did make a video with globetrotters afterall.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: graytex on December 04, 2010, 10:09:14 PM
I'm guessing they are flying from Calcutta to Mumbai or Delhi, heading out of India.

Could the "hippie" team be the Goths?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: KingCrimson88 on December 04, 2010, 10:20:53 PM
I wish we would get a description other than "curly hair" or "hippie", as that doesn't seem to fit anyone.  :lol:

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 04, 2010, 10:28:02 PM
Hopefully we will! :angel
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on December 04, 2010, 10:48:11 PM
Goths=not hippie.

I'd say the most hippieish team would be Gary and Mallory, they like to wear bright colors and Mallory sometimes wears a bandana.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 05, 2010, 04:55:01 AM
I just got information that Gary and Mallory apparently came first in the India leg.



What about Margie/Luke? they still in race?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on December 05, 2010, 07:22:01 AM
I just got information that Gary and Mallory apparently came first in the India leg.



Okay, i usually don't comment because my comment will have nothing to do with spoilers...

But to that comment... OMG!! Amazing!! The father and daughter will win at least one leg this time round then!! :yess:

We also know they arrived first at the Sydney non-Pit Stop. They may have received the Express Pass there, as Mallory suspected would happen for the first team.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on December 05, 2010, 10:11:56 AM
Actually only 4 legs have been in Asia so far.

Leg 1: Australia=Amanda/Kris Eliminated
Leg 2: Asia-Tokyo=Mel/Mike Eliminated
Leg 3: Asia-Lijiang=NEL
Leg 4: Asia-Kunming=Jaime/Cara Eliminated
Leg 5: Asia-India=Unknown (Not Gary/Mallory) (Probably not Cowboys, Kisha/Jen)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Belle Book on December 05, 2010, 11:13:08 AM
Actually only 4 legs have been in Asia so far.

Leg 1: Australia=Amanda/Kris Eliminated
Leg 2: Asia-Tokyo=Mel/Mike Eliminated
Leg 3: Asia-Lijiang=NEL
Leg 4: Asia-Kunming=Jaime/Cara Eliminated
Leg 5: Asia-India=Unknown (Not Gary/Mallory) (Probably not Cowboys, Kisha/Jen)

And hopefully not Ron & Christina or Zev & Justin!

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Belle Book on December 05, 2010, 11:14:25 AM
I just got information that Gary and Mallory apparently came first in the India leg.



If that's the case then I'm glad for those two.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jayreh1021 on December 05, 2010, 11:42:18 AM
Go Gallory!!!!! :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: docol on December 05, 2010, 12:21:33 PM
well, i just hope that the cowboys are out.!! i'm so freaking tired of them..my perfect final three would be: Kisha & jenn, Flight time and big easy and margie & luke...!!!!!!!!!
 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: allie303 on December 05, 2010, 01:30:58 PM
Actually only 4 legs have been in Asia so far.

Leg 1: Australia=Amanda/Kris Eliminated
Leg 2: Asia-Tokyo=Mel/Mike Eliminated
Leg 3: Asia-Lijiang=NEL
Leg 4: Asia-Kunming=Jaime/Cara Eliminated
Leg 5: Asia-India=Unknown (Not Gary/Mallory) (Probably not Cowboys, Kisha/Jen)

And hopefully not Ron & Christina or Zev & Justin!

Belle Book


If it boils down to Globetrotters, Ron/Christina and Zev/Justin, I'd probably bet on Ron and Christina leaving, especially considering their poor racing so far.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: krabbe on December 05, 2010, 02:31:15 PM
OMG Mel & Mike!!!!  :wohoo: :hearts: :wohoo:
Please please still be in it! Although mad_joe would've recognized them since he's a fan of the show whereas this current spotter probably did not pay that much attention to the racers. But then again I don't know how anyone would mix up Mallory & Mike.  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 05, 2010, 02:38:06 PM
Sorry to burst some bubbles but here is why the M/M sighting is not possible.

Take a look at the last reliable sighting we have which is weihen's report from the Green Lake PS:

order:
1st/2nd:Jet and Cord,Gary and Mallory
3rd:Margie and Luke
4th:Kisha and Jen
5th:Goth
6th:Flight time and Big easy
7th/8th:Ron/Chris,Zev and Justin

Emilinated:Jamie and Cara

Where were M/M there?
Here's a further breakdown, A/K were eliminated in Broken Hill leaving ten teams. Then someone was eliminated in Toyko, there was a NEL in Lijiang and J/C are known to be eliminated in Kunming. That leaves 8 teams all of which were spotted and listed above. I don't see any holes in that for M/M to escape through, does anyone else?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 05, 2010, 02:55:12 PM
ALL sightings are always subjective without photos or direct evidence. We are checking this now, but there is always the possibility that something was misjudged in China just as much as in Kolkata. ALL possibilities have to be considered...that is what we do.

Not saying they survived, not saying they were 100% elim'd,  until we knoiw more.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on December 05, 2010, 03:35:36 PM
I do not believe SA will be the 5th continent due to simple logistics. Going to SA pretty much adds one or two days of flight itinerary, and this race seems to be lagging behind its predecessors in number of legs finished (we're already 2 weeks in, so teams should probably be on the 8th or 9th leg in Africa right now).

Also, based on past India double legs, Kolkatta should be the only Indian city visited (they didn't take a train elsewhere). That leaves open the possibility of a double leg there, though. Lastly, I believe India is the final Asian destination before Africa, and that there will be 2 legs in only one African country north of the equator to speed up production (why do I suspect Egypt?).

In summary: a double leg in Australia, 4 legs in Asia (5 if Laos is visited or there are 2 legs in Kolkatta), 2 legs in Africa, and 3 (or 2) legs in Europe. Of course, if the race lasts longer than 3 weeks, then everything I said just goes out the window.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Heliox on December 05, 2010, 04:05:29 PM
well, Maybe Mel and Mike picked up a new super Fast Forward, I'll call the worm-hole portal. Where they can choose to bypass one country on the race and all tasks performed within the country. And leaving the country at the same time as the lead team.
And that's how we didn't see them in China, as they used their Worm-Hole portal to jump all the tasks in China, and move directly to the next desination.


Actually, the source is sounding more suspect in their descriptions. I do believe that the cowboys, Kisha/Jen and now the Goths were there and that he saw them. But as far as the racers versus some production personnel, it may be that he is confusing them.

But I won't be horridly upset to see Mel/Mike still in the race, as long as Kint/Vyxen remain all else is secondary.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on December 05, 2010, 05:18:57 PM
Actually only 4 legs have been in Asia so far.

Leg 1: Australia=Amanda/Kris Eliminated
Leg 2: Asia-Tokyo=Mel/Mike Eliminated
Leg 3: Asia-Lijiang=NEL
Leg 4: Asia-Kunming=Jaime/Cara Eliminated
Leg 5: Asia-India=Unknown (Not Gary/Mallory) (Probably not Cowboys, Kisha/Jen)

And hopefully not Ron & Christina or Zev & Justin!

Belle Book


If it boils down to Globetrotters, Ron/Christina and Zev/Justin, I'd probably bet on Ron and Christina leaving, especially considering their poor racing so far.

...and Margie/Luke??

My guess is that Mel/Mike are eliminated and this person that saw the teams was probably confused with production people and the racers.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: allie303 on December 05, 2010, 05:31:34 PM
Oh yeah, my bad. Forgot about them.

But my point still stands. Out of Globetrotters, Margie/Luke, Ron/Christina and Justin/Zev, I see as Ron and Christinas as being the most likely boots.  :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on December 05, 2010, 05:48:15 PM
Oh yeah, my bad. Forgot about them.

But my point still stands. Out of Globetrotters, Margie/Luke, Ron/Christina and Justin/Zev, I see as Ron and Christinas as being the most likely boots.  :(

Yeah, but youd think they would spot the Globetrotters if they weren't eliminated. I mean they dont exactly blend in with the crowd. Theyre GIANT!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TheAmazingRace4Ever on December 05, 2010, 05:57:03 PM
i speculate that Ron&Chris are eliminatied  :yess: :wohoo: :wohoo: :wohoo: :wohoo: :wohoo: :wohoo: :wohoo: :wohoo:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 05, 2010, 06:54:33 PM
Mel and Mike emilinated in Japan.
Two proofs:
1.Chinese spotters saw 9 teams on Lijiang train station chatting together when teams went back to Kunming...No Mel and Mike.
2.And Kunming pitstop...they saw all teams checked in except cowboys,Gallory,Margie and Luke.But we have photos which confirm cowboys,Gary and Mallory in Kunming...

So we are sure Mel and Mike emilinated in Japan.(Except Japan leg is NEL...but very strange Chinese spotters saw all teams except them every time...)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kacper on December 05, 2010, 06:57:44 PM
Mel and Mike emilinated in Japan.
Two proofs:
1.Chinese spotters saw 9 teams on Lijiang train station chatting together when teams went back to Kunming...No Mel and Mike.
2.And Kunming pitstop...they saw all teams checked in except cowboys,Gallory,Margie and Luke.But we have photos which confirm cowboys,Gary and Mallory in Kunming...

So we are sure Mel and Mike emilinated in Japan.

I agree, we have to many photos and spotters information about other teams that checked in at the Pit Stop etc.
So i doubt vveerryy much that Mel and Mike are still in.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Aluze on December 05, 2010, 07:10:25 PM
Mel and Mike were likely spotted because they're obviously decoys. Producers likely know that people have had tons of sightings and decided to send some previously eliminated people out to try and take the heat off the legit racers.

But that would be a TAR first to have a team eliminated so early get Decoy status right?

Where is the Elimination station for this race, maybe its in the area lol

As we're obviously in Decoy land now, people need to be careful with sightings imo.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 05, 2010, 07:31:09 PM
Mel and Mike were likely spotted because they're obviously decoys. Producers likely know that people have had tons of sightings and decided to send some previously eliminated people out to try and take the heat off the legit racers.

But that would be a TAR first to have a team eliminated so early get Decoy status right?

Where is the Elimination station for this race, maybe its in the area lol

As we're obviously in Decoy land now, people need to be careful with sightings imo.

lolol, it would be hilarious if the elimination station is in india. No offence. Cos it's a way too dangerous place to be at for too long. Haha! :)
Hmm, personally, to me the sightings of mel/mike cld have been mistaken with Ron OR gary. Cos all three of em is with white hair. lol.
Perhaps the person who saw them saw the cowboys, the african-american team AND an old man.

Judging from Mel/Mike (whichever one the dad is hahaaha), mel/mike is pretty tall, therefore im crossing gary out.
Therefore, i think she saw ron instead lol!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kwando1313 on December 05, 2010, 08:24:49 PM
Ha, on the preview for the next eppy of TAR 17, they have a "special surprise for what the next Season will be". I "wonder what it is?" :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: The Queen V on December 05, 2010, 08:42:56 PM
im actually thinking the mell and mike spot in india is most probably ron and gary together, since they both have gray to white hair,the dad and daughters might be in an alliance with the cowboys even.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Heliox on December 05, 2010, 09:34:39 PM
Ron and Gary looking like Mike and Mel??.. er, that is a stretch.

And so is running decoys for the rest of the race. That would be far more expensive and time consuming for production. 
Maybe Mel and Mike are this seasons Nick/Vicky where we all thought they were gone early and surprised (most) of us last until the penultimate leg.

Whatever the answer, the game is afoot and this is intriguing!!  :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on December 05, 2010, 09:46:45 PM
I think its a further stretch that Mel/Mike are actually in the race, to be honest I think at this point its wishful thinking.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on December 05, 2010, 09:59:20 PM
I think its a further stretch that Mel/Mike are actually in the race, to be honest I think at this point its wishful thinking.

Agreed. I mean, Nick and Vicki were unknown, so it was much harder to spot them. But this is AllStars. If we cant get this right, we may aswell give up hahaha
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on December 05, 2010, 10:03:55 PM
well, Maybe Mel and Mike picked up a new super Fast Forward, I'll call the worm-hole portal. Where they can choose to bypass one country on the race and all tasks performed within the country. And leaving the country at the same time as the lead team.
And that's how we didn't see them in China, as they used their Worm-Hole portal to jump all the tasks in China, and move directly to the next desination.


Actually, the source is sounding more suspect in their descriptions. I do believe that the cowboys, Kisha/Jen and now the Goths were there and that he saw them. But as far as the racers versus some production personnel, it may be that he is confusing them.

But I won't be horridly upset to see Mel/Mike still in the race, as long as Kint/Vyxen remain all else is secondary.

I agree!! Kynt and Vyxsin are the priority!! Please be F3 this time!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 05, 2010, 10:06:07 PM
Oh yeah, my bad. Forgot about them.

But my point still stands. Out of Globetrotters, Margie/Luke, Ron/Christina and Justin/Zev, I see as Ron and Christinas as being the most likely boots.  :(

Margie/Luke is out really? for elimination?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 05, 2010, 10:10:08 PM
Oh yeah, my bad. Forgot about them.

But my point still stands. Out of Globetrotters, Margie/Luke, Ron/Christina and Justin/Zev, I see as Ron and Christinas as being the most likely boots.  :(

Margie/Luke is out really? for elimination?

Read through the threads, okay??
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 05, 2010, 10:22:32 PM
Oh yeah, my bad. Forgot about them.

But my point still stands. Out of Globetrotters, Margie/Luke, Ron/Christina and Justin/Zev, I see as Ron and Christinas as being the most likely boots.  :(

Margie/Luke is out really? for elimination?

Read through the threads, okay??

It's made me confusion and trying find who elimintion.. sorry, I trying reading the threads... 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 05, 2010, 11:49:57 PM
It would be interesting to know that the Indian spoiler person's definition of a "hippie" is? India has a very well known "hippie" commune or colony....however you want to call it. It is called Goa and Neobie mentioned it earlier in this or the sightings thread. It is on the west coast of the subcontinent, south of Mumbai. It is a former Portuguese colony, that India attacked and took over in about 1960/1961, I believe.

Where as we have separate definitions for "hippies" and "goths," they may not make that distinction in India proper.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NoluckBoston on December 05, 2010, 11:59:32 PM
I often wondered if Hippies could have been the Globe Trotters. The did where there outfits before on the race. Those shorts are kinda retro.

But I go back to the curly hair.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 06, 2010, 05:23:24 AM
Found Twitter!

Just saw two contestants from the @TheAmazingRace in Vienna, Austria !! :D
-2 hours ago



If this is correct...feel like a TAR14 repeat...5 teams from TAR14,3 same countries by now.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 06, 2010, 05:28:47 AM
from   GabGabyGabby
.Just saw two contestants from the @TheAmazingRace in Vienna, Austria !! :D
about 3 hours ago



That makes it about 9:30 am Vienna time, Dec 6th.

If this is correct...feel like a TAR14 repeat...5 teams from TAR14,3 same countries by now.

TAR14 did not go to Vienna.....but TAR4 did...........repeat racers and repeat countries.....seems to be the theme this time. TAR 14 was certainly in Austria.......but in Salzburg on opposite side of country.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: milanissimo on December 06, 2010, 05:31:30 AM
Vienna is a lovely place.. :hearts: :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 06, 2010, 05:47:38 AM
from   GabGabyGabby
.Just saw two contestants from the @TheAmazingRace in Vienna, Austria !! :D
about 3 hours ago



That makes it about 9:30 am Vienna time, Dec 6th.

If this is correct...feel like a TAR14 repeat...5 teams from TAR14,3 same countries by now.


TAR14 did not go to Vienna.....but TAR4 did...........repeat racers and repeat countries.....seems to be the theme this time. TAR 14 was certainly in Austria.......but in Salzburg on opposite side of country.


Twitter

from GabgabGabby say:
I don't know who I saw in @TheAmazingRace in Vienna! It might have been the new cast for the new cycle.I do know it was 2 black guys (tall)
-13 mins.
It's actually Flight Time/Big Easy in Vienna! :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 06, 2010, 06:11:32 AM
@amazingrace All Stars team spotted, the cowboys team Jet&Cord departing from Madrid Spain.


???

maybe they went to emilination station?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: milanissimo on December 06, 2010, 06:15:25 AM
@amazingrace All Stars team spotted, the cowboys team Jet&Cord departing from Madrid Spain.


???

maybe they went to emilination station?

Or maybe leg 7 was in Madrid and leg 8 in Vienna :duno: :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 06, 2010, 06:18:40 AM
@amazingrace All Stars team spotted, the cowboys team Jet&Cord departing from Madrid Spain.


Someone on survivorsucks found this from twitter,maybe you can check the time...looks like this message sent out at the same time with the one in Vienna.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tutorial on December 06, 2010, 06:20:42 AM
The Spain tweet was 9 hours ago, the Vienna tweet is 2 hours ago.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 06, 2010, 06:26:51 AM
So the route maybe spain,then Austria...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NumfarPTB on December 06, 2010, 06:31:39 AM
Ha, on the preview for the next eppy of TAR 17, they have a "special surprise for what the next Season will be". I "wonder what it is?" :lol:

I wonder if it's not only the official reveal of the title for TAR18, but maybe an early cut teaser with things already shot from legs in Australia, Japan and China or maybe the official announcement of the teams in the cast.

Also by the time the TAR17 finale is shown, we'll be on the final stretch of the TAR18 in terms of filming, which will make it really interesting.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on December 06, 2010, 06:36:00 AM
i don't want the cowboys or globetrotters to be eliminated
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 06, 2010, 06:47:25 AM

Also by the time the TAR17 finale is shown, we'll be on the final stretch of the TAR18 in terms of filming, which will make it really interesting.

I suspect that the TAR18 Finish Line will be this Thur or Friday.......in time for Gary and Mallory to get to the party in NYC......plus other notable people..........but not a tried and true rule.......just a feelin.

Just depends on where the End City for TAR 18 is.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 06, 2010, 07:11:23 AM
At the moment there's high chance

Margie/Luke Ron/Christina Zev/Justin bit the dust already
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: River on December 06, 2010, 07:25:26 AM
If the Madrid sighting is legit...Perhaps it was a connecting flight?..
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on December 06, 2010, 07:37:21 AM

Also by the time the TAR17 finale is shown, we'll be on the final stretch of the TAR18 in terms of filming, which will make it really interesting.

I suspect that the TAR18 Finish Line will be this Thur or Friday.......in time for Gary and Mallory to get to the party in NYC......plus other notable people..........but not a tried and true rule.......just a feelin.

Just depends on where the End City for TAR 18 is.

They almost finished filming already? I thought they were filming till around Dec 17th.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ZBC Company on December 06, 2010, 07:39:22 AM

Also by the time the TAR17 finale is shown, we'll be on the final stretch of the TAR18 in terms of filming, which will make it really interesting.

I suspect that the TAR18 Finish Line will be this Thur or Friday.......in time for Gary and Mallory to get to the party in NYC......plus other notable people..........but not a tried and true rule.......just a feelin.

Just depends on where the End City for TAR 18 is.

They almost finished filming already? I thought they were filming till around Dec 17th.

if ithey come her NC i drop evertything goign head throttle to see them
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 06, 2010, 07:49:04 AM

Also by the time the TAR17 finale is shown, we'll be on the final stretch of the TAR18 in terms of filming, which will make it really interesting.

I suspect that the TAR18 Finish Line will be this Thur or Friday.......in time for Gary and Mallory to get to the party in NYC......plus other notable people..........but not a tried and true rule.......just a feelin.

Just depends on where the End City for TAR 18 is.

They almost finished filming already? I thought they were filming till around Dec 17th.

They started on Sat, Nov 20th..add 21 days and you get Sat, Dec 11........the day before the TAR17 Finale.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 06, 2010, 07:49:56 AM
When TAR 10 ended on TV, was TAR 11 still filming? If so, then maybe TAR 18 might still be filming when TAR 17 ends on TV, give and take a couple of days from 21.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: River on December 06, 2010, 07:52:24 AM
When TAR 10 ended on TV, was TAR 11 still filming? If so, then maybe TAR 18 might still be filming when TAR 17 ends on TV, give and take a couple of days from 21.
The seasons were longer then though, remember, All Stars had 13 single length legs. But they still could possibly end later.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on December 06, 2010, 08:17:53 AM
Reposted from spec thread to the appropriate thread-

"Just saw two contestants from the @TheAmazingRace in Vienna, Austria !! :D"

Europe- AWESOME :D

Credit to- 'loverocked'

Thats fits with Merci'stheory they are in a cold place.

Europe - cool. Thanks for the updates folks.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: laimis on December 06, 2010, 09:00:21 AM
The Austria leg is 6th or 7th leg?  ???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: selkie on December 06, 2010, 09:32:09 AM
I'd be inclined to buy a connecting airport theory. Madrid-Barajas handles 45 million+ passengers a year compared to Vienna's 18 million passengers.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on December 06, 2010, 09:36:23 AM
I'd be inclined to buy a "this is bull****" theory. :lol: Be cautious about being played!

Austria is either the 8th or 9th leg, if you count the TBC as two. Not much time left to hit another continent to make five!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on December 06, 2010, 09:51:26 AM
IIRC, Madrid was a connecting city used by some teams to get out of Morocco back in TAR 3, and that was a leg headed towards Germany/Austria.

So that raises the possible inference of either a leg in Spain (they haven't had any clues anywhere in Spain outside of Barcelona TAR 10 (IIRC), and the port in TAR 3 to head to Morocco) or a leg in Morocco (where they have not been in a long time.)

This is pure speculation on my part based upon trying to understand what the flight from Madrid to Vienna implies.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Zack. on December 06, 2010, 09:57:34 AM
I'd be inclined to buy a connecting airport theory. Madrid-Barajas handles 45 million+ passengers a year compared to Vienna's 18 million passengers.

We have a sighting in Vienna though, which suggests Vienna is the final destination. Moreover, if connecting, I assume it would be more ideal to go through, say, Frankfurt. Additionally, I'm seeing no flights to Vienna from Madrid that fit the time frame at all. While they could be on a budget airline to Vienna, my thought is that they're on their way to Sequesterville somewhere in Iberia  :jam:

(or of course, that it's a hoax)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 06, 2010, 10:02:59 AM
IIRC, Madrid was a connecting city used by some teams to get out of Morocco back in TAR 3, and that was a leg headed towards Germany/Austria.

So that raises the possible inference of either a leg in Spain (they haven't had any clues anywhere in Spain outside of Barcelona TAR 10 (IIRC), and the port in TAR 3 to head to Morocco) or a leg in Morocco (where they have not been in a long time.)

This is pure speculation on my part based upon trying to understand what the flight from Madrid to Vienna implies.

I am having trouble connecting these two cities as well. My assumption is that Vienna is the real leg since they were seen in taxis and were possibly getting a clue at that market. Madrid is either a connection, someone terribly lost, or Elimination Station.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kiki on December 06, 2010, 10:20:09 AM
The Madrid sighting for me is very suspicious because all the weekend there were problems to all the Spanish airports due to the traffic controllers strike. The government declared a state of emergency and on Friday and Saturday most flights were cancelled. I know the sighting says Sunday but it still would be risky to use a Spanish airport.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DavidJunior on December 06, 2010, 10:25:58 AM
Just spec, but I say keep your eyes on Slovenia in the next couple of days...

Very close proximity to Vienna... only a 4 hour drive from capital to capital
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 06, 2010, 10:26:40 AM
The Madrid sighting for me is very suspicious because all the weekend there were problems to all the Spanish airports due to the traffic controllers strike. The government declared a state of emergency and on Friday and Saturday most flights were cancelled. I know the sighting says Sunday but it still would be risky to use a Spanish airport.

Well all we have is one guy who says he saw the cowboys departing from Madrid airport. There is definitely some room for misinterpretation or mistake there. Maybe someone could get him some pictures?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kiki on December 06, 2010, 10:30:16 AM
Just spec, but I say keep your eyes on Slovenia in the next couple of days...

Very close proximity to Vienna... only a 4 hour drive from capital to capital

Bratislava the capital of Slovakia is even closer only an hour by train and it's also never been visited.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on December 06, 2010, 10:41:56 AM
I'd say forget about Madrid! :groan:

Unless my calculations are wrong. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kelsey_x on December 06, 2010, 10:49:12 AM
The Madrid sighting for me is very suspicious because all the weekend there were problems to all the Spanish airports due to the traffic controllers strike. The government declared a state of emergency and on Friday and Saturday most flights were cancelled. I know the sighting says Sunday but it still would be risky to use a Spanish airport.

Well all we have is one guy who says he saw the cowboys departing from Madrid airport. There is definitely some room for misinterpretation or mistake there. Maybe someone could get him some pictures?

Was it only Jet and Cord that were sighted? This could be similar to Nat and Kat who went through Dubai when the rest of the teams went via a different route this season?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: USsoccer on December 06, 2010, 11:28:16 AM


I think that Vienna is a destination and they have to find a clue box at the Weihnachtsmarkt or have a task there (find the right stand, drink a cup of Gluehwein and eat 10 Lebkuchen), then on to the next task. From Austria they could pretty much go anywhere in Europe! It's all way too close to speculate. The Madrid sighting to me looks like a trip to Elimination Station or a connection from Africa to Austria. The cheap airlines in Europe like Ryan Air usually don't use the main airports though, so I would eliminate that possibility.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gl14 on December 06, 2010, 11:58:05 AM

All Stars team spotted, the cowboys team Jet&Cord departing from Madrid Spain.
about 10 hours ago


credit to weihen

It seems odd for them to fly from India to Spain (east to west)
and then fly from Spain to Austria (west to east)
UNLESS
they fly south to Africa afterwards...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: USsoccer on December 06, 2010, 12:18:03 PM

All Stars team spotted, the cowboys team Jet&Cord departing from Madrid Spain.
about 10 hours ago


credit to weihen

It seems odd for them to fly from India to Spain (east to west)
and then fly from Spain to Austria (west to east)
UNLESS
they fly south to Africa afterwards...

I think we are dealing with a 2-3 day hole between sightings, so there is plenty of time for another 1-2 legs somewhere between India (only saw them at the airport there) and Spain (airport only) or Austria. And if the theory of Madrid being transit only holds, then I don't think it is unusual to go from India to, let's say Northern Africa, and then to Austria... then probably 2-3 more legs in Europe and a Finale on the East/South East Coast late this week.

Sorry, meant to move to Speculation thread...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on December 06, 2010, 12:21:31 PM
Ha, on the preview for the next eppy of TAR 17, they have a "special surprise for what the next Season will be". I "wonder what it is?" :lol:

I wonder if it's not only the official reveal of the title for TAR18, but maybe an early cut teaser with things already shot from legs in Australia, Japan and China or maybe the official announcement of the teams in the cast.

Also by the time the TAR17 finale is shown, we'll be on the final stretch of the TAR18 in terms of filming, which will make it really interesting.

It's possible that the "special surprise" will merely be that TAR 18 will be shown in HD. They may want to hold back the announcement of the returning racers until a few weeks before the next season airs to create more of a buzz leading up to it. However, I think it's probable that the announcement will mention the returning racers.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: selkie on December 06, 2010, 12:22:31 PM
Madrid airport has 45 million+ passengers a year. It's not quite Frankfort or Heathrow, but counts as a really major air hub and a place you could end up connecting through coming from either India or northern Africa. Vienna's about 18 million passengers a year, which is no slouch but not as much of a hub as you find in nearby countries.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: David on December 06, 2010, 01:14:01 PM
So, they connected to Madrid so as to get to Vienna?

Oh, I saw something about Madrid, and I need a Spanish leg so bad... :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 06, 2010, 01:20:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9ojqlhIF4g&NR=1
anyway we got our intro
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 06, 2010, 01:24:00 PM
I think we are dealing with a 2-3 day hole between sightings, so there is plenty of time for another 1-2 legs somewhere between India (only saw them at the airport there) and Spain (airport only) or Austria. And if the theory of Madrid being transit only holds, then I don't think it is unusual to go from India to, let's say Northern Africa, and then to Austria... then probably 2-3 more legs in Europe and a Finale on the East/South East Coast late this week.[/color]


Makes sense to me, I was thinking the same thing.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 06, 2010, 01:26:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9ojqlhIF4g&NR=1
anyway we got our intro

That's a cool idea, I'm glad someone thought of it. They did a great job on the editing too. :tup: Somebody should submit that one to CBS, their work has already been done. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kelsey_x on December 06, 2010, 02:17:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9ojqlhIF4g&NR=1
anyway we got our intro

That's a cool idea, I'm glad someone thought of it. They did a great job on the editing too. :tup: Somebody should submit that one to CBS, their work has already been done. :lol:
That is so realistic, congrats to whoever made it they did a phenominal job
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Oddarane on December 06, 2010, 02:33:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9ojqlhIF4g&NR=1
anyway we got our intro

That's a cool idea, I'm glad someone thought of it. They did a great job on the editing too. :tup: Somebody should submit that one to CBS, their work has already been done. :lol:
That is so realistic, congrats to whoever made it they did a phenominal job

Great vid, thanks to the person who made it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: seattlesleuth2 on December 06, 2010, 02:52:13 PM
What that video isn't for real????  hee hee Great job to whoever made it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on December 06, 2010, 03:58:42 PM
I really doubt Spain at this time, if anything, it'd be the last destination before returning to the U.S.

Either it's a hoax, or the cowboys are in trouble.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kenchan on December 06, 2010, 06:19:21 PM
Any sign the teams will be headed to London in the next few days?

(Sorry, I've been away from this board for personal reasons over the last week or so)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Shiryu01 on December 06, 2010, 06:23:50 PM
Hello everyone! New member and first post here! I've been reading you for some time, congratulations for the amazing job!  :hearts:

Quote
Either it's a hoax, or the cowboys are in trouble
It's just a thought but wouldn't it be too late to send them to the mansion? According to the other topic we are thinking there have been 7 or 8 legs out of 12 and usually after leg 7 racers stay with production and only call the villa to let the others know they are out.
Anyway just my two cents, I like the cowboys and hope they win so it might be wishful thinking ^^
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 06, 2010, 06:42:45 PM
Great point! They have used Portugal before for sequester, but yes, they usually only send 6 teams to sequester, so it is right on the cusp.

:welcome: to RFF, Shiryu01!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin88 on December 06, 2010, 06:43:17 PM
What that video isn't for real????  hee hee Great job to whoever made it.

They used the old footage for Ronald/Chris and for Kynt/Vxysin, so of course it is not real... But good job.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 06, 2010, 08:33:01 PM
Found this

thatmistahmatt

another team we saw we two hippy type people, one was names TK as called by Jet the other was a girl that I don't quite know who. about 4 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to mooyoutar

which was continued...
 
saw the cowboys in Madrid. So we have three teams; Jet&Cord, TK & Rachel, BigEasy & Flighttime(your find).
about 2 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone



TK & Rachel?!"Kynt" maybe misheard as "TK".
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 06, 2010, 08:40:06 PM
Or someone is trying to play us. :lol3:

Neobie posted earlier in ref to the Madrid info:

I'd be inclined to buy a "this is bull****" theory. :lol: Be cautious about being played!


Production is posting fake twitters and fake FB posts...be cautious!

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 06, 2010, 08:45:34 PM
Found this

thatmistahmatt

another team we saw we two hippy type people, one was names TK as called by Jet the other was a girl that I don't quite know who. about 4 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone in reply to mooyoutar

which was continued...
 
saw the cowboys in Madrid. So we have three teams; Jet&Cord, TK & Rachel, BigEasy & Flighttime(your find).
about 2 hours ago via Twitter for iPhone

and

GabGabyGabby

I saw them trying to take a taxi, they were in front of a monument or something, close to a Christmas market.

Therefore, it's confirmed that Jet/Cord, TK/Rachel & Flighttime/Bigeasy is safe :)
Hmm.. a task close to the christmas market? haha!

TK/Rachel are not in this race :lol:

Haha let's bring this to the other thread :P
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 06, 2010, 08:48:44 PM
Or someone is trying to play us. :lol3:

Neobie posted earlier in ref to the Madrid info:

I'd be inclined to buy a "this is bull****" theory. :lol: Be cautious about being played!


Production is posting fake twitters and fake FB posts...be cautious!



OMG! haha! Actually i was thinking of that as an option for the productions. To post fake twitters and FB posts. But at the same time, wldnt that reveal the location the teams are currently in? haha!
Sigh, the productions really do suck balls. Spoil us producers! :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 06, 2010, 08:51:40 PM
Only Madrid right now... I think.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kwando1313 on December 06, 2010, 08:59:43 PM
Wow wouldnt expect production to stoop that low.

So Madrid and Vienna cannot be confirmed?

I swore that they already tried to deceive us during Leg 1 of Season 17...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kwando1313 on December 06, 2010, 09:22:30 PM
Really? Wow. Lots of posting then. :)

Well... If you look in the Episode 1 spoilers, you can see it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 06, 2010, 09:26:18 PM
Hmm, lets try analysing the guy who tweeted about TK & Rachel.
He mentioned hippy. I think it's likely to be the goth.

Filming date for TAR 17: May 26, 2010 – June 15, 2010

He created tweeter on september 26th.
He created his youtube a/c on the september 26th.

Hmm, both at the same time. Pretty suspicious. ----- (1)

He tweeted this to kevjumba.
@kevjumba The All Star Season is just around the corner. Would you and you dad go if invited?

on the 9th November. No one has a clue that the next season wld be an all-star.. or.. do we?

Suspicion ---------- (2)

However,

He has been regularly updating twitter since 24th November. There were two tweet which caught my eye.

1) Time to start a vlog series starting today! Thursday, 25 November, 2010 10:31:20 PM via Twitter for iPhone
2) Haha just got asked about my Film already. Cool! Monday, 29 November, 2010 8:29:09 AM via Twitter for iPhone

Suspicion --------- (3)

Lol. Okay im pretty confused. Because, i can clear all this suspicion with this.

Youtube page -
Last Visit Date: 1 day ago

Hmm, wouldnt the producers be busy to even have time to watch youtube videos? lol!
Cos they have to plan the next leg and stuff like that right?

Haha! Okay this is getting long. I hope nobody is confused.

My say is that his source is kinda reliable.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kwando1313 on December 06, 2010, 10:07:06 PM
Really? Wow. Lots of posting then. :)

Well... If you look in the Episode 1 spoilers, you can see it.

And in case you want to know: http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,21997.200.html
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on December 06, 2010, 10:27:23 PM
If anyone really thinks TK and Rachel are there...its wishful thinking and fanfic.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: spoddams on December 06, 2010, 11:02:09 PM
Very jetlagged here, and caught up in the UK Snow airport hell trying to leave the country, didn't spot anyone at Dubai (as expected!), but did see lots of hacked off passengers at Gatwick who couldn't get to Spain due to their airport staff all walking out for a couple of days - it's over now, but if there's any sightings at airports of any teams, it might be they're stuck in the country (or were).

There were also plenty of people stuck in Spain trying to get back...

if that's any use, anyway. Possibly not, as it's old news, but might explain longer sightings of teams like Jet and Cord if it's legit.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: USsoccer on December 06, 2010, 11:06:36 PM
Hmm, lets try analysing the guy who tweeted about TK & Rachel.
He mentioned hippy. I think it's likely to be the goth.

Filming date for TAR 17: May 26, 2010 – June 15, 2010

He created tweeter on september 26th.
He created his youtube a/c on the september 26th.

Hmm, both at the same time. Pretty suspicious. ----- (1)

He tweeted this to kevjumba.
@kevjumba The All Star Season is just around the corner. Would you and you dad go if invited?

on the 9th November. No one has a clue that the next season wld be an all-star.. or.. do we?

Suspicion ---------- (2)

However,

He has been regularly updating twitter since 24th November. There were two tweet which caught my eye.

1) Time to start a vlog series starting today! Thursday, 25 November, 2010 10:31:20 PM via Twitter for iPhone
2) Haha just got asked about my Film already. Cool! Monday, 29 November, 2010 8:29:09 AM via Twitter for iPhone

Suspicion --------- (3)

Lol. Okay im pretty confused. Because, i can clear all this suspicion with this.

Youtube page -
Last Visit Date: 1 day ago

Hmm, wouldnt the producers be busy to even have time to watch youtube videos? lol!
Cos they have to plan the next leg and stuff like that right?

Haha! Okay this is getting long. I hope nobody is confused.

My say is that his source is kinda reliable.

So just to be clear. We know of "some" person who tweeted to Kevin from S17 "aka" Kevjumba and asked him if he would go on an All-Stars season. Then that same person just so happens to spot TK and Rachel as part of S18? That does sound pretty fishy to me and not like a reliable source.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: krabbe on December 06, 2010, 11:37:55 PM
He's probably an intern at WRP they asked to make random sightings.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 06, 2010, 11:41:22 PM
He's probably an intern at WRP they asked to make random sightings.

Quote
So just to be clear. We know of "some" person who tweeted to Kevin from S17 "aka" Kevjumba and asked him if he would go on an All-Stars season. Then that same person just so happens to spot TK and Rachel as part of S18? That does sound pretty fishy to me and not like a reliable source.

hmm i agree. I think he is paid to make random sightings, based on the first leg of TAR17 haha :)
Ohwells.

Back to finding a needle in a haystack. :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 07, 2010, 12:34:18 AM
JasonTennisFan
"# Anyway I saw they were carrying these envelopes marked amazing race. I was curious. Some sort of race? Hope I was on tv!!! 10:33 AM Dec 5th via Twitter for iPhone

# Want to tell the world I might be on tv!I was in Mumbai airport before. I saw cameraspeople running to the desks. Cowboys, blonde,Asians 10:31 AM Dec 5th via Twitter for iPhone "
http://twitter.com/JasonTennisFan (http://twitter.com/JasonTennisFan)
If teams depart Mumbai at Dec5...they can get to Vienna at Dec6?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Neobie on December 07, 2010, 12:55:41 AM
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8689/hoax.jpg)

He's been talking to KevJumba since 13 Nov and doesn't know what The Amazing Race is? :lol3:

Yes, they can leave Mumbai on 5 Dec and arrive in Vienna on 6 Dec. In fact, I'm thinking that's what they do (connecting from somewhere through Mumbai to Europe). But that doesn't mean that this guy isn't a fraud.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 07, 2010, 01:38:27 AM
Hmmm... i notice all of those "fakers" seem to be chatting with kevjumba.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 07, 2010, 01:45:17 AM
(http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8689/hoax.jpg)

He's been talking to KevJumba since 13 Nov and doesn't know what The Amazing Race is? :lol3:

Yes, they can leave Mumbai on 5 Dec and arrive in Vienna on 6 Dec. In fact, I'm thinking that's what they do (connecting from somewhere through Mumbai to Europe). But that doesn't mean that this guy isn't a fraud.

lol seems like all those paid-to-tweet-random-sightings has a connection with kevjumba. The dude who claimed he spotted the cowboys etc was tweeting to kevjumba also.

Guys, when looking for tweets, scroll down to their old posts and be sure there's no kevjumba ok!

 :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 07, 2010, 02:18:05 AM
Great point! They have used Portugal before for sequester, but yes, they usually only send 6 teams to sequester, so it is right on the cusp.

:welcome: to RFF, Shiryu01!!


This is interesting, because since Leg 3 is a NEL with Kynt & Vyxsin coming in last, the 5th team to be eliminated will be sent out in Leg 6, assuming there are no more NELs before that point.

Maybe they are on their way to sequester. :duno: Personally, I hope so.

Do we have any info or speculation as to where Sequesterville might be this time round?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on December 07, 2010, 02:19:22 AM
Hmmm... i notice all of those "fakers" seem to be chatting with kevjumba.

Finally someone realized. Whenever i tried to search for tweets, kevjumba will never fail to pop up on my screen. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 07, 2010, 04:00:32 AM
Found it..

Twitter:

Asyik, Jet & cord dapt hadiah ke Alaska.
-31 mins ago..

Translation.
Fun, Jet & cords dapt gift to Alaska. # TheAmazingRace

it's suppose right or wrong.


Lol.. this is season 16 episode 10.

Leg 10 – A trip for two to Alaska. Jet and cord came in 1st

translation means - Wow, im so envious. Jet and cord won a gift to Alaska.

Not related to TAR18 :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 07, 2010, 04:08:55 AM
Found it..

Twitter:

Asyik, Jet & cord dapt hadiah ke Alaska.
-31 mins ago..

Translation.
Fun, Jet & cords dapt gift to Alaska. # TheAmazingRace

it's suppose right or wrong.


Lol.. this is season 16 episode 10.

Leg 10 – A trip for two to Alaska. Jet and cord came in 1st



translation means - Wow, im so envious. Jet and cord won a gift to Alaska.

Not related to TAR18 :(

Thanks.. I was wrong..  :res:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 07, 2010, 04:25:35 AM
Found it..

Twitter:

Asyik, Jet & cord dapt hadiah ke Alaska.
-31 mins ago..

Translation.
Fun, Jet & cords dapt gift to Alaska. # TheAmazingRace

it's suppose right or wrong.


Lol.. this is season 16 episode 10.

Leg 10 – A trip for two to Alaska. Jet and cord came in 1st



translation means - Wow, im so envious. Jet and cord won a gift to Alaska.

Not related to TAR18 :(

Thanks.. I was wrong..  :res:

sighhh.. haha. :( i hope we manage to find the needle soon. haha. where are u teams!!! :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 07, 2010, 04:40:59 AM
Found it..

Twitter:

Asyik, Jet & cord dapt hadiah ke Alaska.
-31 mins ago..

Translation.
Fun, Jet & cords dapt gift to Alaska. # TheAmazingRace

it's suppose right or wrong.


Lol.. this is season 16 episode 10.

Leg 10 – A trip for two to Alaska. Jet and cord came in 1st



translation means - Wow, im so envious. Jet and cord won a gift to Alaska.

Not related to TAR18 :(

Thanks.. I was wrong..  :res:

sighhh.. haha. :( i hope we manage to find the needle soon. haha. where are u teams!!! :(

Me too.. :( I know Phil really smart and hidden Cloak of Invisibility for teams.. :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 07, 2010, 05:09:16 AM
Jet&Cord how many sighting now 0-0
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 07, 2010, 07:14:54 AM
So apparently the Race is currently in Alaska, Finland, Austria, Spain, and Mumbai *and Iraq* *and Switzerland*.
Not to mention that TK and Rachel have joined the cast.  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 07, 2010, 07:53:51 AM
We have sightings in Iraq .

'I saw Amazing Race in Iraq, Go Kevin!'

 :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 07, 2010, 08:02:48 AM
We have sightings in Iraq .

'I saw Amazing Race in Iraq, Go Kevin!'

Pls kindly give me his stupid twitter id so that i can flame him. He's such an idiot lol  :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 07, 2010, 08:03:22 AM
I am expecting mars next
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: selkie on December 07, 2010, 09:30:18 AM
Alas, no sightings from Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, which would probably be the transit point for a Mars leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 07, 2010, 09:31:14 AM
:lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: libertybell on December 07, 2010, 09:47:07 AM
I sure hope Jet and Cord are still in it!  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 07, 2010, 09:58:20 AM
I sure hope Jet and Cord are still in it!  :hearts:

Agreed!Though their sighting in Madrid has me worried.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Zack. on December 07, 2010, 10:26:27 AM
I sure hope Jet and Cord are still in it!  :hearts:

Agreed!Though their sighting in Madrid has me worried.

That sighting, and Madrid in general, is probably a hoax.

In other spec, given the train rides in Australia and China and the day long hole that I think we have between Kolkata and Mumbai, is there enough time for an old friend, the rape trains of India (to Goa, perhaps)?  :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 07, 2010, 10:36:33 AM
I would consider the slight possibility that TK and Rachel and Jet and Cord were seen in Madrid b/c they are in Elimination Station.
:duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Zack. on December 07, 2010, 10:43:25 AM
I would consider the slight possibility that TK and Rachel and Jet and Cord were seen in Madrid b/c they are in Elimination Station.
:duno:

TK/Rachel aren't racing though  :cmaslol

The issue with Jet/Cord was that at the time they were 'departing' from Madrid's airport, there were no flights out for hours; this suggests highly that this is a fake.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: allie303 on December 07, 2010, 10:45:10 AM
Maybe the teams at Elim Station are getting visits from other teams of previous seasons  :cmaslol

Doubt it though.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 07, 2010, 10:46:36 AM
I would consider the slight possibility that TK and Rachel and Jet and Cord were seen in Madrid b/c they are in Elimination Station.
:duno:

TK/Rachel aren't racing though  :cmaslol

The issue with Jet/Cord was that at the time they were 'departing' from Madrid's airport, there were no flights out for hours; this suggests highly that this is a fake.

I was actually thinking that TK/R were eliminated at the startline. That's if this theory has a life.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 07, 2010, 11:20:25 AM
I would consider the slight possibility that TK and Rachel and Jet and Cord were seen in Madrid b/c they are in Elimination Station.
:duno:

TK/Rachel aren't racing though  :cmaslol

The issue with Jet/Cord was that at the time they were 'departing' from Madrid's airport, there were no flights out for hours; this suggests highly that this is a fake.

I was actually thinking that TK/R were eliminated at the startline. That's if this theory has a life.

Tk and Rachel won their season though.If this is a second chance or redemption season then there's no way they'd be included in the cast.

Off topic,but I just wanted to post these emoticons  :xmas110 :cmas51 :cmas28   :cmas25.  So darn cute!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 07, 2010, 11:51:20 AM
I would consider the slight possibility that TK and Rachel and Jet and Cord were seen in Madrid b/c they are in Elimination Station.
:duno:

TK/Rachel aren't racing though  :cmaslol

The issue with Jet/Cord was that at the time they were 'departing' from Madrid's airport, there were no flights out for hours; this suggests highly that this is a fake.

I was actually thinking that TK/R were eliminated at the startline. That's if this theory has a life.

Tk and Rachel won their season though.If this is a second chance or redemption season then there's no way they'd be included in the cast.

Off topic,but I just wanted to post these emoticons  :xmas110 :cmas51 :cmas28   :cmas25.  So darn cute!

At this point, I'm not sure how reliable zenmaster is.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on December 07, 2010, 02:25:02 PM
I wouldnt take any of the spoilers to be true at this point (from the last 3 days). Some of them may be, but they will probably lead us in circles hahaha
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 07, 2010, 03:06:28 PM
I'm worried about Cowboys, Margie/Luke, Gary/Mallory and I'm sure they are in still racing..  :hearts: :cmas4
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: selkie on December 07, 2010, 03:18:08 PM
The only way I could see TK & Rachel reappearing is that if they played a part in one of the tasks. We've seen previous Racers reappear in later Races to hand out clues at least once, IIRC.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 07, 2010, 03:40:51 PM
in NYC...never around the world.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on December 07, 2010, 03:48:34 PM
I find that Austrian rail report very intriguing. I think one element of this particular Race we need to keep in mind is trying to use locations that come across the best in HD.  Going to the Alps is definitely one way to do it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on December 07, 2010, 03:53:13 PM
I find that Austrian rail report very intriguing. I think one element of this particular Race we need to keep in mind is trying to use locations that come across the best in HD.  Going to the Alps is definitely one way to do it.

The Egyptian pyramids are the most famous landmark in Africa...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 07, 2010, 04:06:45 PM
I find that Austrian rail report very intriguing. I think one element of this particular Race we need to keep in mind is trying to use locations that come across the best in HD.  Going to the Alps is definitely one way to do it.

The Egyptian pyramids are the most famous landmark in Africa...

and interestingly...there was a lot of "smoke" about Egypt around....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 07, 2010, 04:24:41 PM
 Deja Vu all over again.......Swiss trains????......I think this is where I came in.......


I find that Austrian Swiss rail report very intriguing. I think one element of this particular Race we need to keep in mind is trying to use locations that come across the best in HD.  Going to the Alps is definitely one way to do it.

The Egyptian pyramids are the most famous landmark in Africa...

and interestingly...there was a lot of "smoke" about Egypt around....

It would be nice to see TAR return to my old "home" town....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Heliox on December 07, 2010, 05:04:20 PM
So Kisha/Jen sighted on train to Zurich? But what is interesting is that they have camera crew with them, but not filming, and the report says they were not in a hurry.

Do the camera crews assigned to the teams travel with them when they are eliminated? Or are they sending the eliminated teams on a decoy train and plain tour of Europe??
Our Elimination station will be the teams all appearing in different locations this year.... :cmas27
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 07, 2010, 05:13:05 PM
So Kisha/Jen sighted on train to Zurich? But what is interesting is that they have camera crew with them, but not filming, and the report says they were not in a hurry.

Do the camera crews assigned to the teams travel with them when they are eliminated? Or are they sending the eliminated teams on a decoy train and plain tour of Europe??Our Elimination station will be the teams all appearing in different locations this year.... :cmas27

This is a possibility.

Here's the running list of where teams are in case you are confused. :lol:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23693.msg580254.html#msg580254
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: allie303 on December 07, 2010, 05:27:52 PM
So it seems that this sighting of Kisha and Jen can be interpreted in 2 ways:

1) Still in the race, of course
2) Eliminated, on their way to being a decoy

With 2) being more likely? Boooo.  :cmas13
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tombc52 on December 07, 2010, 05:58:14 PM
The cameraguys were not filming but the cameras were out not covered by anything. Furthermore they carried the cameras using some kind of belt/rods contraption that looks like it allows the cameraman to run and film at the same time.

Them being on a Chur-Zurich train and them beeing seen in Austria yesterday points to a stopover in the Lichtenstein region.

I really wonder what tonights pit stop will be.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 07, 2010, 06:03:38 PM
The cameraguys were not filming but the cameras were out not covered by anything. Furthermore they carried the cameras using some kind of belt/rods contraption that looks like it allows the cameraman to run and film at the same time.

Them being on a Chur-Zurich train and them beeing seen in Austria yesterday points to a stopover in the Lichtenstein region.

I really wonder what tonights pit stop will be.

Liechtenstein? It would be a new country for them to visit. 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 07, 2010, 06:46:12 PM
If they were in the Middle East, Qatar and Bahrain are possible.  Qatar Airways flies to Vienna from Doha, and Bahrain to Vienna, there are no direct nonstops, but connecting through Dubai is probable.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 07, 2010, 08:40:20 PM
Sorry... but I don't see any real good possibility at all for them being in the middle east...BASED ON THE EVIDENCE WE HAVE.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 07, 2010, 08:55:51 PM
If they were in the Middle East, Qatar and Bahrain are possible.  Qatar Airways flies to Vienna from Doha, and Bahrain to Vienna, there are no direct nonstops, but connecting through Dubai is probable.

Its a real good possiblity they were in the middle east.

Qatar and Bahrain are part of Asia.....and I dont see them stopping there any more. Egypt, in Africa, is possible...but slim, from India to Europe.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 07, 2010, 09:20:11 PM
Hey guys, i dont know if im too late in telling this. Just to let you know the sighting of Jet&Cord in madrid is a HOAX.
It's confirmed because the guy who tweeted it "ThatMistahMatt" deleted the tweets about the sightings.
Therefore, it's definitely a hoax.

 :cmas4
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 07, 2010, 09:48:27 PM
Some people delete their tweets because they don't like all the attention...so that 1+1 does not necessarily =2.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 07, 2010, 09:56:05 PM
Some people delete their tweets because they don't like all the attention...so that 1+1 does not necessarily =2.



omg yeah.. therefore, anything is a possibility!  :cmas9
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on December 07, 2010, 10:08:49 PM
Another website is stating that Gary/Mallory and Ron/Chris have been spotted along with Kynt/Vyxsin, Globtrotters and Cowboys.

They are also saying that Kisha/Jen have been spotted on a train, not in a hurry and no camera crew around them.

They are coming to the conclusion that there have been 3 legs after Jaime/Cara's eliminated, and that Zev/Justin, Margie/Luke and now Kisha/Jen have been eliminated.

Making the final 5 Goths, Globtrotters, Cowboys, Ron/Chris and Gallory.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 07, 2010, 10:22:00 PM
Another website is stating that Gary/Mallory and Ron/Chris have been spotted along with Kynt/Vyxsin, Globtrotters and Cowboys.

They are also saying that Kisha/Jen have been spotted on a train, not in a hurry and no camera crew around them.

They are coming to the conclusion that there have been 3 legs after Jaime/Cara's eliminated, and that Zev/Justin, Margie/Luke and now Kisha/Jen have been eliminated.

Making the final 5 Goths, Globtrotters, Cowboys, Ron/Chris and Gallory.

Where you find information? they are in now Switzerland right now?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 07, 2010, 10:23:12 PM
Another website is stating that Gary/Mallory and Ron/Chris have been spotted along with Kynt/Vyxsin, Globtrotters and Cowboys.

They are also saying that Kisha/Jen have been spotted on a train, not in a hurry and no camera crew around them.

They are coming to the conclusion that there have been 3 legs after Jaime/Cara's eliminated, and that Zev/Justin, Margie/Luke and now Kisha/Jen have been eliminated.

Making the final 5 Goths, Globtrotters, Cowboys, Ron/Chris and Gallory.

Yeah yeah...All of that data is here. :lol:

We are just more into interpreting facts logically...not creating fantasy out of thin air.

The problem right now is that nothing is sure...without photo evidence no one can say one way or the other who is eliminated and who is not. NOT SEEN does NOT equal eliminated. It means we all need to be working harder to find sightings.

I can make data say anything...doesn't mean it is true. See?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on December 07, 2010, 10:30:09 PM
I understand, It all depends on how recent the spottings have been. The race is coming to an end, its plausible that 3 teams have been sent home and we havent seen any evidence of Zev/Justin, Margie/Luke anywhere!!!! And Kisha/Jen appeared to be eliminated. So the signs are pointing to it but who knows?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 07, 2010, 10:31:46 PM
I understand, It all depends on how recent the spottings have been. The race is coming to an end, its plausible that 3 teams have been sent home and we havent seen any evidence of Zev/Justin, Margie/Luke anywhere!!!! And Kisha/Jen appeared to be eliminated. So the signs are pointing to it but who knows?

I am sad about Margie/Luke  :cmas4 :cmas4
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 07, 2010, 10:35:56 PM
It's more possible that they have a leg in Liechtenstein, then took train to Zurich transmit to other countries in Europe
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 07, 2010, 10:41:13 PM
Read the Timeline, post one.

All sightings will be there. There is just no new info either way.

So all of y'all could be helping to search photo sites, blogs, FB... we need firm facts right now, not creative writing! :lol:


I am sad about Margie/Luke  :cmas4 :cmas4

This is what I mean...you are sad why? Because  there is NO EVIDENCE saying they are eliminated? We haven't seen anyone but K/J recently and a possibly false/possibly not sighting of the Cowboys in Madrid...and even there it is hard to say what was going on. They would not be going to sequester...so who knows?

I can't say who is left with the info we have.... no one can.

And Leichtenstein cannot be confirmed from one train connection either...

Let's alll look closely at what we have...and not jump to any conclusions.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 07, 2010, 10:46:45 PM
Read the Timeline, post one.

All sightings will be there. There is just no new info either way.

So all of y'all could be helping to search photo sites, blogs, FB... we need firm facts right now, not creative writing! :lol:


I am sad about Margie/Luke  :cmas4 :cmas4

This is what I mean...you are sad why? Because  there is NO EVIDENCE saying they are eliminated? We haven't seen anyone but K/J recently and a possibly false/possibly not sighting of the Cowboys in Madrid...and even there it is hard to say what was going on. They would not be going to sequester...so who knows?

I can't say who is left with the info we have.... no one can.

And Leichtenstein cannot be confirmed from one train connection either...

Let's alll look closely at what we have...and not jump to any conclusions.



Oh, oh, okay..  :cmas30:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on December 08, 2010, 01:53:51 AM
is that mean Cowboys, Globetrotters, Goths, Ron & Chris and Gary & Mal are still safe?
If yes, that's great because my favourtie 3 teams are still have the chance
My fav final 3: Cowboys, Globetrotters and Goths
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 08, 2010, 01:59:00 AM
No, it doesn't mean that.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: FabregasPublicist on December 08, 2010, 09:52:32 AM
I'm just hoping that the timeline is well updated :cmas27.I really want to know where the race is now. I'm sure that the race is coming to an end because Christmas is just around the corner :cmas9. I'm just sad that the Race has still not returned here in the Philippines. (Can someone contact the TAR production team for me and tell them that a guy in the Philippines has already planned a leg for them? :cmas22 That could be the best Christmas gift I could receive in my entire life. :cmas22)

And because of that, I wish you all a merry Christmas and a happy New Year to come.  :xmas49 :cmastree :cmas51
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: FabregasPublicist on December 08, 2010, 10:01:04 AM
Wait a sec! I'm just puzzled  :idgit . If there are still teams seen on the latter part of the race, does that mean they are still in it to win it?
Are we not considering the fact that the TAR production team has this "decoy team" strategy? And are we sure that the sightings are from reliable sources?

By the way, again,  :MC: to everyone!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Belle Book on December 08, 2010, 10:04:53 AM
Another website is stating that Gary/Mallory and Ron/Chris have been spotted along with Kynt/Vyxsin, Globtrotters and Cowboys.

They are also saying that Kisha/Jen have been spotted on a train, not in a hurry and no camera crew around them.

They are coming to the conclusion that there have been 3 legs after Jaime/Cara's eliminated, and that Zev/Justin, Margie/Luke and now Kisha/Jen have been eliminated.

Making the final 5 Goths, Globtrotters, Cowboys, Ron/Chris and Gallory.

I'm thrilled about the possibility that Ron & Chris are still in the Race, but less happy about the likelihood that Zev & Justin are out.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 08, 2010, 02:17:06 PM
I had a dream yesterday, that there was start line challenge with 20 teams brought back and only 11 survived the cut.

Any ways, I really do hope Africa was a destination this season.

Did you talk to an apparition of Phil about this?  :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on December 08, 2010, 03:04:20 PM
I had a dream yesterday, that there was start line challenge with 20 teams brought back and only 11 survived the cut.

Any ways, I really do hope Africa was a destination this season.

I would actually like that so much, and it would fit in with the TBC of the first leg, ala Poker Girls.
Although, it is really really unlikely :P,
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: sweffilou on December 08, 2010, 06:58:07 PM
I had a dream yesterday, that there was start line challenge with 20 teams brought back and only 11 survived the cut.

Any ways, I really do hope Africa was a destination this season.

I would actually like that so much, and it would fit in with the TBC of the first leg, ala Poker Girls.
Although, it is really really unlikely :P,

Interesting dream/theory on the 20 teams brought back - I kind of liked the s15 start line challenge as it gave them an extra incentive to be the best straight off he bat and it could also explain why 5 s14 teams got onto the race!

I doubt this would happen though
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on December 08, 2010, 08:33:01 PM
I had a dream yesterday, that there was start line challenge with 20 teams brought back and only 11 survived the cut.

Any ways, I really do hope Africa was a destination this season.

I would actually like that so much, and it would fit in with the TBC of the first leg, ala Poker Girls.
Although, it is really really unlikely :P,

Interesting dream/theory on the 20 teams brought back - I kind of liked the s15 start line challenge as it gave them an extra incentive to be the best straight off he bat and it could also explain why 5 s14 teams got onto the race!

I doubt this would happen though

Yeah, and no season 13 teams too, although yeah, UNLIKELY AS HELL!! hahaha
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 08, 2010, 08:47:05 PM
back to topic please? SPOILER DISCUSSION. :xmas49
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TKM809 on December 08, 2010, 09:12:10 PM
WOW still no info on where the team or and who got Eliminated  :cmas4
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on December 08, 2010, 10:24:10 PM
^ Well I can narrow it down for you....

It seems as though Either Margie/Luke or Zev/Justin got 8th.....and the other probably got 7th.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 08, 2010, 10:32:50 PM
saw this on survivorsucks



Seeing that my Twitter leak is In question. I am in America (nc), and I was not the one that in fact spotted them. My good mate lives in Madrid and was talking to me about it a few days back. He's restated what he said about TK after people were flipping out on here and other places(reality forums). He did in fact see a "hippy type" team.
This maybe a random tangent but this could be relivent. April Johnston from Project runway gave a lecture at my school and said that producers do have fake contestents that are used to keep a show that is filmed space out intact. I am obligated to trust my bud on this one and say that's it's either a fake team used as a sort of red herring or a team that no one expected in it.

So to sum thing up;
jet&cord were seen in Madrid running around and stated something about how "TK" is right behind him. My theroy is that this could also be a joke if a team like the goths had to dress similar to a hippy.

Hope this clears things up
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Zack. on December 08, 2010, 10:35:42 PM
^ Well I can narrow it down for you....

It seems as though Either Margie/Luke or Zev/Justin got 8th.....and the other probably got 7th.

We can't say that though. Just because they weren't seen doesn't mean that they were axed (see: Kisha/Jen in TAR 14, Brent/Caite in TAR 16 among many others)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on December 08, 2010, 10:38:51 PM
^ Well I can narrow it down for you....

It seems as though Either Margie/Luke or Zev/Justin got 8th.....and the other probably got 7th.

We can't say that though. Just because they weren't seen doesn't mean that they were axed (see: Kisha/Jen in TAR 14, Brent/Caite in TAR 16 among many others)

Well when all the other teams are reported safe for leg 5, I would say its a pretty good inclination that one of those teams got eliminated on that leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kwando1313 on December 08, 2010, 10:45:17 PM
saw this on survivorsucks



Seeing that my Twitter leak is In question. I am in America (nc), and I was not the one that in fact spotted them. My good mate lives in Madrid and was talking to me about it a few days back. He's restated what he said about TK after people were flipping out on here and other places(reality forums). He did in fact see a "hippy type" team.
This maybe a random tangent but this could be relivent. April Johnston from Project runway gave a lecture at my school and said that producers do have fake contestents that are used to keep a show that is filmed space out intact. I am obligated to trust my bud on this one and say that's it's either a fake team used as a sort of red herring or a team that no one expected in it.

So to sum thing up;
jet&cord were seen in Madrid running around and stated something about how "TK" is right behind him. My theroy is that this could also be a joke if a team like the goths had to dress similar to a hippy.

Hope this clears things up


So, in other words, this guy is trying to confuse us even more by lying?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 08, 2010, 11:37:08 PM
All sources are treated with respect please...until/or unless we find that they are intentionally misleading us.

THEN you can ream them, but until then.....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kwando1313 on December 08, 2010, 11:40:18 PM
I thought we already proved that it was impossible for the Madrid sighting to be true?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 08, 2010, 11:44:24 PM
Highly unlikely...but stuff does happen...there were airport issues, so who knows? I like to believe the best but am always expecting the worst. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 08, 2010, 11:51:04 PM
I have one problem thing for Luke did sign in for check RFF. I don't know if suppose luke check something..  I feel strange and Luke did check this all everything in RFF spoiler tar 18.. I never know that.. What do you think about that?

 :cmas18
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on December 08, 2010, 11:56:51 PM
You're supposed to look at LAST ACTIVE. Not local time.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 08, 2010, 11:57:52 PM
No sweetie, that is his own local time. Not a check in to RFF time.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 08, 2010, 11:58:48 PM
You're supposed to look at LAST ACTIVE. Not local time.

Oh, thanks.. I didn't see that.. :)  :cmas30:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 08, 2010, 11:59:49 PM
No sweetie, that is his own local time. Not a check in to RFF time.

sorri.. Oh, thanks.. I didn't see and well, I need glasses :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 09, 2010, 12:16:34 AM
saw this on survivorsucks



Seeing that my Twitter leak is In question. I am in America (nc), and I was not the one that in fact spotted them. My good mate lives in Madrid and was talking to me about it a few days back. He's restated what he said about TK after people were flipping out on here and other places(reality forums). He did in fact see a "hippy type" team.
This maybe a random tangent but this could be relivent. April Johnston from Project runway gave a lecture at my school and said that producers do have fake contestents that are used to keep a show that is filmed space out intact. I am obligated to trust my bud on this one and say that's it's either a fake team used as a sort of red herring or a team that no one expected in it.

So to sum thing up;
jet&cord were seen in Madrid running around and stated something about how "TK" is right behind him. My theroy is that this could also be a joke if a team like the goths had to dress similar to a hippy.

Hope this clears things up


Hmm to me this is highly fake.

One reason being, how in the world does he know that the ppl in the reality forum are flipping out?
(Unless he was actually reading whatever we have been posting all along)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on December 09, 2010, 01:19:58 AM
saw this on survivorsucks



Seeing that my Twitter leak is In question. I am in America (nc), and I was not the one that in fact spotted them. My good mate lives in Madrid and was talking to me about it a few days back. He's restated what he said about TK after people were flipping out on here and other places(reality forums). He did in fact see a "hippy type" team.
This maybe a random tangent but this could be relivent. April Johnston from Project runway gave a lecture at my school and said that producers do have fake contestents that are used to keep a show that is filmed space out intact. I am obligated to trust my bud on this one and say that's it's either a fake team used as a sort of red herring or a team that no one expected in it.

So to sum thing up;
jet&cord were seen in Madrid running around and stated something about how "TK" is right behind him. My theroy is that this could also be a joke if a team like the goths had to dress similar to a hippy.

Hope this clears things up


Hmm to me this is highly fake.

One reason being, how in the world does he know that the ppl in the reality forum are flipping out?
(Unless he was actually reading whatever we have been posting all along)

I find it odd that an American uses the word "Mate" too. I thought that was our thing?  :cmas5
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 09, 2010, 01:41:55 AM
saw this on survivorsucks



Seeing that my Twitter leak is In question. I am in America (nc), and I was not the one that in fact spotted them. My good mate lives in Madrid and was talking to me about it a few days back. He's restated what he said about TK after people were flipping out on here and other places(reality forums). He did in fact see a "hippy type" team.
This maybe a random tangent but this could be relivent. April Johnston from Project runway gave a lecture at my school and said that producers do have fake contestents that are used to keep a show that is filmed space out intact. I am obligated to trust my bud on this one and say that's it's either a fake team used as a sort of red herring or a team that no one expected in it.

So to sum thing up;
jet&cord were seen in Madrid running around and stated something about how "TK" is right behind him. My theroy is that this could also be a joke if a team like the goths had to dress similar to a hippy.

Hope this clears things up


Hmm to me this is highly fake.

One reason being, how in the world does he know that the ppl in the reality forum are flipping out?
(Unless he was actually reading whatever we have been posting all along)

I find it odd that an American uses the word "Mate" too. I thought that was our thing?  :cmas5

Hahaha he's an australian-wannabe!!!! He's a bad boy  :cmas12
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DavidJunior on December 09, 2010, 03:02:59 AM
saw this on survivorsucks



Seeing that my Twitter leak is In question. I am in America (nc), and I was not the one that in fact spotted them. My good mate lives in Madrid and was talking to me about it a few days back. He's restated what he said about TK after people were flipping out on here and other places(reality forums). He did in fact see a "hippy type" team.
This maybe a random tangent but this could be relivent. April Johnston from Project runway gave a lecture at my school and said that producers do have fake contestents that are used to keep a show that is filmed space out intact. I am obligated to trust my bud on this one and say that's it's either a fake team used as a sort of red herring or a team that no one expected in it.

So to sum thing up;
jet&cord were seen in Madrid running around and stated something about how "TK" is right behind him. My theroy is that this could also be a joke if a team like the goths had to dress similar to a hippy.

Hope this clears things up


Hmm to me this is highly fake.

One reason being, how in the world does he know that the ppl in the reality forum are flipping out?
(Unless he was actually reading whatever we have been posting all along)

I find it odd that an American uses the word "Mate" too. I thought that was our thing?  :cmas5

Hahaha he's an australian-wannabe!!!! He's a bad boy  :cmas12
Idk... people still use 'mate' over here- granted it's only a small fraction of the population- but it's still used

And just because he happens to know about the forums is not an indicator of him lying

a lot of people know there are spoiler sites out there, and really all you have to do is type it into your favorite search engine and you're there...

so even though it seems tight, and highly improbable, we shouldn't write it off right away

anything could happen... or i guess could've happened in this case...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 09, 2010, 08:14:08 AM
I have somewhat of a noob question and am sorry if this has been addressed elsewhere.

When searching blogs for sightings etc how do you go about it?As in do you just search in google or is there some other way?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 09, 2010, 08:44:10 AM
I have somewhat of a noob question and am sorry if this has been addressed elsewhere.

When searching blogs for sightings etc how do you go about it?As in do you just search in google or is there some other way?

It is just step by step searching, any way you can think of. There is no easy recipe. Use mutiple search words...not just amazing race.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 09, 2010, 08:59:30 AM
I have somewhat of a noob question and am sorry if this has been addressed elsewhere.

When searching blogs for sightings etc how do you go about it?As in do you just search in google or is there some other way?

It is just step by step searching, any way you can think of. There is no easy recipe. Use mutiple search words...not just amazing race.

Thank you!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: chill_sd on December 09, 2010, 01:28:36 PM
In Austria, there may have been a food challenge on the famous Wiener Riesenrad (German for "Viennese giant wheel") Ferris wheel at the entrance of the Prater amusement park in Leopoldstadt, the 2nd district of Austria's capital Vienna.

There may have also been a task involving carrying "Freud's couch" to The University of Vienna.

This reminded me of the "Eye of the Emirates" challenge in TARA 1.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 09, 2010, 03:36:05 PM
Race over now ?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin on December 09, 2010, 04:24:26 PM
Race over now ?
No. They are still going at it! ;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on December 09, 2010, 07:41:47 PM
I know it's real tempting to post possible filming locations, but to keep mobs of people from showing up there and disrupting things, I suggest sending the info to Peach for whether it should be released. Her inbox is full, but her email address is in her profile.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on December 09, 2010, 07:57:48 PM
I know it's real tempting to post possible filming locations, but to keep mobs of people from showing up there and disrupting things, I suggest sending the info to Peach for whether it should be released. Her inbox is full, but her email address appears to be contactrff@bellsouth.net.

That and one or two other tidbits was what I was trying to contact Peach about.  :cmas31:

Good advice Plaidmoon. She is not usually pleased when people are posting stuff like this. Unfortunately she is currently offline.

Maybe if we chipped in to cover her wages, she could be here 24/7.  :cmaslol

Thanks, King Crimson88! I may be too cautious, but I've heard stories about what happened (or almost happened) in Portland a few seasons back. I don't want to risk messing things up. It can always be posted later if the mods think it's OK.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Levi Rinno on December 09, 2010, 08:19:06 PM
Someone said over at sucks they are finishing in Miami either Tomorrow or Saturday.
I think it'd likely be tomorrow, seeing as how that'd be Day 21, and the race only tapes twenty-one days now.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 09, 2010, 10:02:40 PM
Thank you all for the help.

BUT, and this is a BIG But... RFF does not publicize any info about the finale location until the teams are safe.

Spoilers are one thing, but ensuring the safety and the FUTURE of the race is another.


So if you have urgent news, you are welcome to PM or email or FB me.

But really.... I don't care what any other forum does or says because so far...I have not seen accurate info.

THIS forum will NOT spoil the finish line location until the racers are safe.  Got it? Good.

Now if there are thirty zillion tweets and sightings, that is public info and can of course be shared. But private info will be shared only when the racers are safe. At least by me. :kisses
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 09, 2010, 10:09:19 PM
I know it's real tempting to post possible filming locations, but to keep mobs of people from showing up there and disrupting things, I suggest sending the info to Peach for whether it should be released. Her inbox is full, but her email address is in her profile.

Good advice Plaidmoon. She is not usually pleased when people are posting stuff like this. Unfortunately she is currently offline.

Maybe if we chipped in to cover her wages, she could be here 24/7.  :cmaslol

Thanks, King Crimson88! I may be too cautious, but I've heard stories about what happened (or almost happened) in Portland a few seasons back. I don't want to risk messing things up. It can always be posted later if the mods think it's OK.

Thank you Plaidmoon! You are 100% coorect.  I still have nightmares about the actual finale Pitstop being known ahead of time in Portland. Can y'all imagine our final three trying to race thru hoards of media, fans, or the curious?

Anyone who truly loves TAR will understand why it is important to be very cautious about what and WHEN info should be released.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Lpadres on December 10, 2010, 12:42:39 AM
I just started watching the amazing race, so what happened in Portland?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on December 10, 2010, 01:06:26 AM
I know it's real tempting to post possible filming locations, but to keep mobs of people from showing up there and disrupting things, I suggest sending the info to Peach for whether it should be released. Her inbox is full, but her email address is in her profile.

Good advice Plaidmoon. She is not usually pleased when people are posting stuff like this. Unfortunately she is currently offline.

Maybe if we chipped in to cover her wages, she could be here 24/7.  :cmaslol

Thanks, King Crimson88! I may be too cautious, but I've heard stories about what happened (or almost happened) in Portland a few seasons back. I don't want to risk messing things up. It can always be posted later if the mods think it's OK.

Thank you Plaidmoon! You are 100% coorect.  I still have nightmares about the actual finale Pitstop being known ahead of time in Portland. Can y'all imagine our final three trying to race thru hoards of media, fans, or the curious?

Anyone who truly loves TAR will understand why it is important to be very cautious about what and WHEN info should be released.



I completely see what you're saying Peach. Imagine what it would be like if we hoarded them and caused our favorite team to loose...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on December 10, 2010, 05:09:26 AM
I just started watching the amazing race, so what happened in Portland?

Yeah! Sounds interesting! What season was it?!

Also- Swiss alps would be FANTASTIC in HD sounds like they are going all oUt with destinations this season.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 10, 2010, 05:25:24 AM
Yeah! Sounds interesting! What season was it?!

Also- Swiss alps would be FANTASTIC in HD sounds like they are going all oUt with destinations this season.

You mean Portland, Oregon? It was Season 13. (The Final Destination City)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Snooky on December 10, 2010, 09:08:27 AM
I think Bogota, Columbia could be a pheasable location before the finale. It hasn't been visited yet and it has some good connections to the US.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 10, 2010, 09:10:46 AM
I think Bogota, Columbia could be a pheasable location before the finale. It hasn't been visited yet and it has some good connections to the US.

Columbia is a violent country. Besides, I think the writers always wants to end in America.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Mister RC on December 10, 2010, 09:36:32 AM
I think he meant to say that he'd like to see a stop in Columbia on the way to the typical US end city.  Of course, I have to agree that Columbia would not be a smart choice to stop, as no one would make it back to the US if no one was fortunate enough to survive in Columbia!

As far as the location of the finale, as well as the eventual placement, I have to say no thanks!  Well, I'd love to know the location, but I agree: nothing disclosed until it's all over.  After 10 years, why jeopardize TAR and all its history/great moments?  Personally, since I follow the spoilers with everything that goes on, I love to learn of the final 3 placement in advance.  That way, I'm prepared in case of a non-favorite ending, or even a favorite ending.

Having said that, I'd still rather not know the Final 3 placement until within a week before the finale, at the earliest (and if that info is released, not in the public of course).  I am very thankful for the awesome staff here for keeping that under wraps. And even when I got to the finale with the obvious ending (seasons circa 2008-2009), it wasn't (always) known which made watching it with everyone that much more exciting!

Anyway, there's that!  As for TAR18 now, I am so impressed with Ron/Chris' run. Not sure I'd call them the best team of all time, but they're up there, and maybe the most consistent team that has never really been in danger of being eliminated.  IOW, they haven't come in last ever (though it's worth pointing out that in their original season there were only 2 NELs).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 10, 2010, 10:00:13 AM
I think he meant to say that he'd like to see a stop in Columbia on the way to the typical US end city.  Of course, I have to agree that Columbia would not be a smart choice to stop, as no one would make it back to the US if no one was fortunate enough to survive in Columbia!

As far as the location of the finale, as well as the eventual placement, I have to say no thanks!  Well, I'd love to know the location, but I agree: nothing disclosed until it's all over.  After 10 years, why jeopardize TAR and all its history/great moments?  Personally, since I follow the spoilers with everything that goes on, I love to learn of the final 3 placement in advance.  That way, I'm prepared in case of a non-favorite ending, or even a favorite ending.

Having said that, I'd still rather not know the Final 3 placement until within a week before the finale, at the earliest (and if that info is released, not in the public of course).  I am very thankful for the awesome staff here for keeping that under wraps. And even when I got to the finale with the obvious ending (seasons circa 2008-2009), it wasn't (always) known which made watching it with everyone that much more exciting!

Anyway, there's that!  As for TAR18 now, I am so impressed with Ron/Chris' run. Not sure I'd call them the best team of all time, but they're up there, and maybe the most consistent team that has never really been in danger of being eliminated.  IOW, they haven't come in last ever (though it's worth pointing out that in their original season there were only 2 NELs).

so does that mean ron/chris are in the final 3 or...? hahaha!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 10, 2010, 10:25:15 AM
If the producers count the borken hill leg as leg 2 it means most likely there will be only 2 non elimination legs. Anyone agree?

Most likely.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on December 10, 2010, 01:47:36 PM
I think he meant to say that he'd like to see a stop in Columbia on the way to the typical US end city.  Of course, I have to agree that Columbia would not be a smart choice to stop, as no one would make it back to the US if no one was fortunate enough to survive in Columbia!

As far as the location of the finale, as well as the eventual placement, I have to say no thanks!  Well, I'd love to know the location, but I agree: nothing disclosed until it's all over.  After 10 years, why jeopardize TAR and all its history/great moments?  Personally, since I follow the spoilers with everything that goes on, I love to learn of the final 3 placement in advance.  That way, I'm prepared in case of a non-favorite ending, or even a favorite ending.

Having said that, I'd still rather not know the Final 3 placement until within a week before the finale, at the earliest (and if that info is released, not in the public of course).  I am very thankful for the awesome staff here for keeping that under wraps. And even when I got to the finale with the obvious ending (seasons circa 2008-2009), it wasn't (always) known which made watching it with everyone that much more exciting!

Anyway, there's that!  As for TAR18 now, I am so impressed with Ron/Chris' run. Not sure I'd call them the best team of all time, but they're up there, and maybe the most consistent team that has never really been in danger of being eliminated.  IOW, they haven't come in last ever (though it's worth pointing out that in their original season there were only 2 NELs).

so does that mean ron/chris are in the final 3 or...? hahaha!

Dustin and Kandice finished 4th and 2nd. And they had 6 wins in 2 seasons.
Eric (on different teams) finished 2nd and 1st. He had 7 wins in 2 seasons (including the final in All Stars)

So if Ron and Christina finish 1st place with atleast 4 wins, they will be the most consistent team :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 10, 2010, 02:57:07 PM
I think Bogota, Columbia could be a pheasable location before the finale. It hasn't been visited yet and it has some good connections to the US.

Columbia is a violent country. Besides, I think the writers always wants to end in America.

Colombia is not a violent country.  The only violence you'll find is in the jungles and rural areas where guerillas and cartels still operate.  Security has improved there in years and even though the US State Dept still has issued a travel warning there, it still advises people and travelers to remain cautious.  Also TAR Latin America visited Colombia before twice on thier first two seasons and no problems came about.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on December 10, 2010, 03:42:48 PM
I get roughly the same information on travelers through MAD and VIE airports. The most important airport for AR18 right now is Zurich, where teams flew out of  probably on Tuesday 12/7 to get somewhere else on any of 4 continents (Europe, Africa, South America, North America).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on December 10, 2010, 04:09:21 PM
It's time for me to speculate a little on where AR18 is headed from Zurich. There are some possibilities all over Europe, but I rule out anything that is not south and west. I am working with the Zurich international flight timetable for the possibilities That gives this European (includes the Canary and Balearic Islands) destination list of:

Lyon
Nice
Barcelona
Valencia
Alicante
Malaga
Palma de Mallorca
Lanzarote
Madrid
Porto
Lisbon
Funchal
Gran Canaria
Tenerife

I also rule out anything not in northwest Africa. That leaves:

Marrakesh
Agadir
Fuerteventura
Tunis
Djerba

The places in North America listed in the Zurich timetable are:

Punta Cana
Puerta Plata
Cancun
Varadero (Cuba)
Miami
Atlanta
Washington
Philadelphia
New York City
Boston
Montreal
Toronto
Chicago
San Francisco
Los Angeles

This list does not rule out going elsewhere by connection at one of the above airports, but most likely the next destination will be on the above list.


Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: selkie on December 10, 2010, 04:24:02 PM

A usa travel advisory means they wont likely visit it.

TAR has to pay for insurance costs to cover the production of the Race, and the cost to insure a visit to a place with an active State Department travel advisory is going to be significantly higher than a place that is not flagged as such.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on December 10, 2010, 07:26:59 PM
Someone posted this over at sucks:

It is fake:

"Hey guys my first post I think it will help!

I was in Monrovia for the last 3 weeks just got home and I saw teams running in downtown Monrovia. (unfortunatley I had no camera).
I for sure so Luke and Margie and Kisha and Jen, I believe they were working together (?) maybe as part of an intersection."


Monrovia is the capital of Liberia, West Africa.

It's is a fake, if the guy watched S14, he would know that Margie/Luke, Kisha/Jen will NEVER work together.

Kisha/Jen probably U-turned Margie/Luke in one of the legs....



From what I observed in Sydney, Margie and Luke and Kisha and Jen have no problem with each other, and would happily work together for mutual advantage.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 11, 2010, 05:47:42 AM
I mean after Margie herself saw the clips of Luke doings. There can't be a problem
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 11, 2010, 08:12:53 AM
You are going to have to take this on faith, but

RIO! today!


Thanks Peach for the heads up!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ZBC Company on December 11, 2010, 08:13:40 AM
You are going to have to take this on faith, but

RIO! today!


Thanks Peach for the heads up!!!!


where is that
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 11, 2010, 08:16:02 AM
There is only one city in the world that is known as just "Rio!" Rio de Janeiro in Brasil   
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 11, 2010, 08:21:23 AM
Is there a history of much spoilage in Brazil?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 11, 2010, 08:23:00 AM
We still don't know who's final 3.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 11, 2010, 08:36:52 AM
We still don't know who's final 3.


There's most likely four or five teams still left.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 11, 2010, 08:49:25 AM
^ there are many Rio's in the world, but I know it's Rio de Janeiro (site of 2016 Olympics) Peach is referring. :lol:

I agree b/c they were probably headed to South America next. One leg in Rio and another down there somewhere and then the final.  :cmas9
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Snooky on December 11, 2010, 09:29:21 AM
I agree with the person over in the other thread RIO means Race is Over.
You are a wise one. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on December 11, 2010, 10:30:59 AM
I never thought of RIO as "Race Is Over", but possible! Though, we only have 4 continents as for the moment. :o
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on December 11, 2010, 10:37:52 AM
I have to admit that I do not understand why if teams were spotted going to Zurich Tuesday, they wouldn't after one more leg in Switzerland have been on their way to wherever at least one day before today. However, after 5 years of working with her on RFF, I trust Peach totally and know that her Rio inclination is based on special knowledge. So, she emailed me from advance TARCON XVII activities and asked me to provide some flight information from Zurich to Rio. Not only will I do that, but i will also take you back to the U.S. East Coast from Rio.

There are 4 possibilities that started about 45 minutes ago:

LX656  ZRH CDG 1640 1755 connecting with JJ8055 CDG GIG 2000 0455+1
AF5107  ZRH CDG 1750 1915 connecting with AAF442 CDG GIG 2320 0735+1
TP927  ZRH LIS 1905 2055 connecting with TP185 LIS GIG 2330 0730+1
LX92  ZRH GRU 2240 to 0745+1. From GRU to GIG takes 1 hour with min. one flight every hour

Once teams need to get back to the U.S., say on Monday, here are the nonstop possibilities to the East Coast (I was surprised to find a nonstop to Houston but have ignored anything west of Atlanta):

GIG MIA JJ8084   0743  1550
               CO8531 2158 0345+1
               AA904    2226 0426+1

GIG ATL DL060  2224 0530+1

GIG CLT DL801 2250 0600+1

GIG IAD JJ8282  2350 0624+1

GIG JFK AA236   2330 0640+1

There are no nonstop flights to Orlando, to Boston or to Philadelphia. Dr. Rox, Continental does fly from GIG to EWR some days of the week, but not on crucial Mondays so I did not include it on the above list.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 11, 2010, 10:41:53 AM
I agree with the person over in the other thread RIO means Race is Over.

You are hallucinating. :lol3:

RIO in Brazil :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on December 11, 2010, 10:45:27 AM
Of course it is not over silly billies.  :kisses

So I expect someone posting:

"OMG. Does that mean another TBC in the Finish Line?" :lol: Jk.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 11, 2010, 10:52:49 AM
I agree with the person over in the other thread RIO means Race is Over.
You are a wise one. :funny:

Is that :colealert: ? Because the race was supposed to be over today.

That depends doesn't it? If you want to believe other sites, then feel free. If you want to believe RFF...then no. The race is NOT over today. Watch Rio de Janierio.

Have fun!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kacper on December 11, 2010, 11:03:37 AM
I agree if u do not believe RFF the read other forums. I also do mot believe that race is or suppose to finish today. 21 days is way to short.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: USsoccer on December 11, 2010, 11:09:30 AM
Someone posted this over at sucks:

It is fake:

"Hey guys my first post I think it will help!

I was in Monrovia for the last 3 weeks just got home and I saw teams running in downtown Monrovia. (unfortunatley I had no camera).
I for sure so Luke and Margie and Kisha and Jen, I believe they were working together (?) maybe as part of an intersection."


Monrovia is the capital of Liberia, West Africa.

It's is a fake, if the guy watched S14, he would know that Margie/Luke, Kisha/Jen will NEVER work together.

Kisha/Jen probably U-turned Margie/Luke in one of the legs....



I don't think it is true either. Africa that late in the race doesn't make sense, especially since the Rio info is out there now.

As for the quote above.... NEVER is a pretty strong word. I think that most athletes would agree that what happens on the field stays on the field... Jenn and Keisha are athletes, and I don't think that they hold a grudge. It was a race for a Million bucks. If I was a racer I would like to see one of my season-mates win S18... Plus, from all the facebook posts and pics you can clearly see that the cast of S14 gets along pretty well and would probably work together over working with teams from a different season...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 11, 2010, 11:23:46 AM
So,we still have about 4.5 hours until they land?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on December 11, 2010, 11:33:59 AM
I agree if u do not believe RFF the read other forums. I also do mot believe that race is or suppose to finish today. 21 days is way to short.
Kacper,
You are entitled to your opinion, but recent Amazing Races have been running only about 21 days. Just go back and examine the record of past races in RFF. Anyway, the race is not finishing today. it is only arriving in Rio today. It cannot finish before tomorrow because they could have run a leg in Rio this morning but would still need a pit stop before boarding an evening flight tonight Rio time, which would be 22 days.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on December 11, 2010, 11:43:21 AM
Peach has clarified that she meant landing in Brazil today, not departing Switzerland today. That means that all of the possible flights landed several hours ago. Rio is currently on Daylight Savings time at UTC-2, which puts them 3 hours ahead of the U.S. East Coast this time of year. The last of the flights would have landed by 10am Rio time or 7am this morning.

Anyway, since this creates the possibility that teams could be leaving Rio tomorrow, it was prudent to take another look at the flights from Rio to East Coast cities. Here it is:

Miami
drop JJ8054 because it does not fly Sundays. That leaves:
CO 8531 2158 0345+1
AA904 2226 0426+1

ATL
DL060 2224 0530+1

CLT
DL801 2250 0600+1

IAD
UA 810 (with multiple codeshares) 2350 0624+1

NYC
gain a new flight on Sunday JJ8178 2305 0615+1
AA236 2330 0640+1
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: krabbe on December 11, 2010, 11:48:19 AM
Rio in December is high season! So we should get a lot of sightings?  :cmas51
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NumfarPTB on December 11, 2010, 01:27:48 PM
If it was Sao Paulo I'd be scouring the city trying to find them (or at least trying to spot the clue boxes), can't help with Rio though.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 11, 2010, 01:53:03 PM
If it was Sao Paulo I'd be scouring the city trying to find them (or at least trying to spot the clue boxes), can't help with Rio though.

I really doubt Rio, because recently on the news theres been rise in gang violence in the outer parts of the city.  They could connect through Rio to Manaus, Brasilia, Belem, or the Guianas.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: docol on December 11, 2010, 03:23:43 PM
ok, so after reading the thread, i started looking for flights from Switzerland to Rio, and i ended up with three posibilitties:

(http://i56.[banned image hosting site].com/28bwm5h.jpg)

at least, that's what i think..!!!!!! So assuming teams are on the first flight (Air France)..they'll be landed in an hour........!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :xmas146 :cmas18
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: docol on December 11, 2010, 03:40:36 PM
WHATTTTTTTTT...............? Gary and matt are on the race......? that's FAKE.!!!!!!!!!


(http://i51.[banned image hosting site].com/v4ypoo.jpg)


Here's the link to the article:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/12/spoiler-alert-amazing-race-season-18-secrets-revealed (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/12/spoiler-alert-amazing-race-season-18-secrets-revealed)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 11, 2010, 03:51:56 PM
Clearly they don't read us. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: docol on December 11, 2010, 04:02:49 PM
Clearly they don't read us. :lol3:

soooooo..RIGHT.!!!  :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 11, 2010, 04:06:50 PM
Clearly they don't read us. :lol3:

Indeed, that article is just more senseless gossip!

 :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Mister RC on December 11, 2010, 04:18:41 PM
Clearly they don't read us. :lol3:

This has to be the funniest article I've read all week (non-sports). Maybe they'll bluff the audience and show clips of Ken/Gerard & Jon/Al again!

Too bad TAR18 isn't ending tomorrow. It would have been a true surprise if they had NYC as the end city and then have Phil, along with the AR 18 cast show up at the AR17 Finale Party.

Though I should ask, could the race even end tomorrow (not necessarily NYC) or is there still a lot of stuff left?  Personally lost track of everything, even upon checking the normal posts!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 11, 2010, 06:07:19 PM
WHATTTTTTTTT...............? Gary and matt are on the race......? that's FAKE.!!!!!!!!!


(http://i51.[banned image hosting site].com/v4ypoo.jpg)


Here's the link to the article:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/12/spoiler-alert-amazing-race-season-18-secrets-revealed (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/12/spoiler-alert-amazing-race-season-18-secrets-revealed)


First sign of being fake:

They got the date wrong. The finale airs on December 12, not 11... :groan:  :hides
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on December 11, 2010, 06:19:29 PM
WHATTTTTTTTT...............? Gary and matt are on the race......? that's FAKE.!!!!!!!!!


(http://i51.[banned image hosting site].com/v4ypoo.jpg)


Here's the link to the article:

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/12/spoiler-alert-amazing-race-season-18-secrets-revealed (http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/12/spoiler-alert-amazing-race-season-18-secrets-revealed)


First sign of being fake:

They got the date wrong. The finale airs on December 12, not 11... :groan:  :hides

I wouldn't call it a fake, just wrong. I found this yesterday when I was searching blogs. The funny thing was that I also found another site that grabbed this story and posted it as it's own!  :cmas18

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Snooky on December 11, 2010, 06:28:40 PM
^^ LOL, I saw that yesterday too.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 11, 2010, 06:32:41 PM
At least they didn't grab information from RFF and claim it was their own! :cmas28
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Levi Rinno on December 11, 2010, 06:51:17 PM
I agree with the person over in the other thread RIO means Race is Over.
You are a wise one. :funny:

Is that :colealert: ? Because the race was supposed to be over today.

That depends doesn't it? If you want to believe other sites, then feel free. If you want to believe RFF...then no. The race is NOT over today. Watch Rio de Janierio.

Have fun!
Really?  This must be a first to go to South America last.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on December 11, 2010, 06:58:10 PM
Idea! Maybe they ready Gary (from Gary and Mallory) and pink-haired Vyxsin and somehow distorted that into Gary and Matt lol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: topaz on December 11, 2010, 07:24:52 PM
So, is TAR 18 race is finally over right now?  Because someone who said it's over already but we don't have any news on what final city will it be whether it'll be in the US or for the 1st time on the history of TAR American version, the final city will not be in the US (like Mexico City, Aruba or Toronto)?  Hmmm, that'll be nice! :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 11, 2010, 07:43:56 PM
 :readtt:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: selkie on December 11, 2010, 08:00:49 PM
Also, Anthony Bourdain did a Liberia show this year, and it seemed like it was likely a little too tense there still to film a show like TAR.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 11, 2010, 09:16:06 PM
At present, there are 3 flights in the air on the way to Miami from Rio.....

1) JJ 8056---340am EST
2) AA 904----417am EST
3) AA 990----506am EST

It would probably be a good idea to monitor Twitter and Facebook for updates as soon as they land.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazing race fan on December 11, 2010, 09:17:36 PM
At present, there are 3 flights in the air on the way to Miami from Rio.....

1) JJ 8056---340am EST
2) AA 904----417am EST
3) AA 990----506am EST

It would probably be a good idea to monitor Twitter and Facebook for updates as soon as they land.
Do you know that they are headed to Miami? Or is this just speculation?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AussieTARfan on December 11, 2010, 09:23:57 PM
Hello everyone,  Have been following this Season closely since they started in Australia.

I am hoping that the final three teams will be Zev/Justin, Gary/Mallory and the Cowboys.

They should have the final leg go through Canada or Alaska as they have not been there for a while.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 11, 2010, 09:25:18 PM
Do we have any info regarding which teams may still be alive to help with Twitter searching?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 11, 2010, 09:30:53 PM
At present, there are 3 flights in the air on the way to Miami from Rio.....

1) JJ 8056---340am EST
2) AA 904----417am EST
3) AA 990----506am EST

It would probably be a good idea to monitor Twitter and Facebook for updates as soon as they land.
Do you know that they are headed to Miami? Or is this just speculation?


I just havent finished looking up the other flights yet.....I will post them in a few minutes.....for Atlanta, Charlotte and DC
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 11, 2010, 09:31:37 PM
Hello everyone,  Have been following this Season closely since they started in Australia.

I am hoping that the final three teams will be Zev/Justin, Gary/Mallory and the Cowboys.

They should have the final leg go through Canada or Alaska as they have not been there for a while.

Those would be my ideal final 3 also!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ZBC Company on December 11, 2010, 09:32:01 PM
At present, there are 3 flights in the air on the way to Miami from Rio.....

1) JJ 8056---340am EST
2) AA 904----417am EST
3) AA 990----506am EST

It would probably be a good idea to monitor Twitter and Facebook for updates as soon as they land.
Do you know that they are headed to Miami? Or is this just speculation?


I just havent finished looking up the other flights yet.....I will post them in a few minutes.....for Atlanta, Charlotte and DC

charlotte if come i get there it one hour for my place
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 11, 2010, 09:33:44 PM
At present, there are 3 flights in the air on the way to Miami from Rio.....

1) JJ 8056---340am EST
2) AA 904----417am EST
3) AA 990----506am EST

It would probably be a good idea to monitor Twitter and Facebook for updates as soon as they land.

Won't they currently be at a pitstop in Rio?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on December 11, 2010, 09:36:07 PM
If they arrived today, then the answer is yes unless it was an 8 hour pit stop in Rio, which was done in Moscow for AR13 but is not likely to be done again any time soon.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on December 11, 2010, 09:40:38 PM

I don't think it is true either. Africa that late in the race doesn't make sense, especially since the Rio info is out there now.

USsoccer, if you look at a map and compute total distance (which I admittedly haven't done), I believe that anything on the west coast of Africa down to about Liberia would be shorter for the two transportation legs (to Africa and to the U.S. East Coast) than the total of going to Rio and then to the U.S. East Coast.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 11, 2010, 09:53:57 PM
I posted the Miami flights because they will arrive in the US, the earliest. Here are some other Rio to US flights, arriving this morning on the East Coast.....

4) Atlanta--DL60...arriving ~530am EST

5) Charlotte --AW801 (US Airways) ~602am EST

6) NYC
     JJ 8058-- arriving ~520am EST
     AA 256-- arriving ~ 629am EST

I do not know if any teams are on any of these flights.....we have had NO sightings in Rio...which I dont expect to have....Its just a heads up to anyone that would like to follow Twitter and Facebook after the planes arrive in the US.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: selkie on December 11, 2010, 10:01:51 PM
Considering how 16 was essentially decided by who got through customs quickest, I wonder if we might see a finale in a non-direct from Rio city like Tampa or Philadelphia just to shake things up.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 11, 2010, 10:11:38 PM
Radar Online, the site that listed the Amazing Race 18 article.  I saw its home website and its nothing more than fake news/tabloids.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 11, 2010, 10:13:22 PM
Considering how 16 was essentially decided by who got through customs quickest, I wonder if we might see a finale in a non-direct from Rio city like Tampa or Philadelphia just to shake things up.

Whether Miami is the End City or if, as you suggest, connect on to other cities, they will still have to clear Immigration/Customs at MIA, then go back upstairs and pass through Security again, to reach the gates to any connecting cities from there.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ovalorange on December 11, 2010, 10:38:42 PM
Regarding Venezuela: Production might not let teams travel in Caracas due to safety reasons, but how about a leg in the Canaima National Park like in TARLA2? Or would it still be considered too dangerous?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on December 11, 2010, 10:46:07 PM

I don't think it is true either. Africa that late in the race doesn't make sense, especially since the Rio info is out there now.

USsoccer, if you look at a map and compute total distance (which I admittedly haven't done), I believe that anything on the west coast of Africa down to about Liberia would be shorter for the two transportation legs (to Africa and to the U.S. East Coast) than the total of going to Rio and then to the U.S. East Coast.

Specially if they're coming to Brazil, Africa sounds like a plausible origin
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 11, 2010, 10:48:18 PM
Regarding Venezuela: Production might not let teams travel in Caracas due to safety reasons, but how about a leg in the Canaima National Park like in TARLA2? Or would it still be considered too dangerous?

Good question?? I think it might be safe, its mainly a tourist area with nearby Angel Falls.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on December 11, 2010, 11:09:53 PM
I'm still surprised by the huge jump from Europe to S. America. Then again, the producers did Australia to Japan...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on December 11, 2010, 11:15:41 PM
I have no actual knowledge, but I will say that I've been waiting for a Race to end with teams coming up from South America. It also opens a lot of US cities up to be the final destination city more easily than flights from Asia or Europe.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 12, 2010, 06:59:49 AM
I agree with the person over in the other thread RIO means Race is Over.
You are a wise one. :funny:

Is that :colealert: ? Because the race was supposed to be over today.

That depends doesn't it? If you want to believe other sites, then feel free. If you want to believe RFF...then no. The race is NOT over today. Watch Rio de Janierio.

Have fun!
Really?  This must be a first to go to South America last.

I believe it is.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ausina on December 12, 2010, 07:08:10 AM
Well...
may I know who the final 4 are? :cmas5
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 12, 2010, 09:21:47 AM
:welcome2: to RFF!

You can keep up with a summary of all we know right here in the first 2 posts!

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23631.0.html

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Snooky on December 12, 2010, 09:50:55 AM
I guess they have left the city proper and are in the suburbs.
I don't think they are in Rio anymore.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SabreRoseTiger on December 12, 2010, 11:56:06 AM
Regarding Venezuela: Production might not let teams travel in Caracas due to safety reasons, but how about a leg in the Canaima National Park like in TARLA2? Or would it still be considered too dangerous?

Good question?? I think it might be safe, its mainly a tourist area with nearby Angel Falls.

Although it might be safe it will cost more for insurance and the production crew does not want that.


I would love for them to go to Venezuela, but right now the country has suffered from heavy flooding and landslides recently, so I don't think it would be feasible for this season. Also, hi. I've been lurking for a little while, but this is my first post.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 12, 2010, 12:00:07 PM
:welcome: sabrerosetiger!

NOT Venezuela.  :angel

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kelsey_x on December 12, 2010, 12:23:11 PM
The finale will be somewhere where they can show off their HD equipment.

Today is now the 22nd day of filming, interesting.

Niagara Falls?

I would be the happiest person ever... that's where i live! (Canadian side though)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 12, 2010, 03:09:24 PM
Frustrated. Because we know where they are. But don't know who's left。
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: KevinTheAmazingRaceFAN on December 12, 2010, 03:17:54 PM
Frustrated. Because we know where they are. But don't know who's left。

We do not know who is left??? :( darnn

 :cmastree
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 12, 2010, 03:23:18 PM
When did teams arrived in Rio? Could there be a second leg somewhere else in Brazil like inland?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: KevinTheAmazingRaceFAN on December 12, 2010, 03:30:13 PM
When did teams arrived in Rio? Could there be a second leg somewhere else in Brazil like inland?

Peach said yesterday that teams were in Rio so they probably arrived yesterday  :cmas5
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kwando1313 on December 12, 2010, 06:23:21 PM
My question is, why on earth is this race running longer than normal? Are they going back to a 13 leg race?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on December 12, 2010, 06:35:20 PM
22 or 23 days is not the 25 to 28 days it used to be with 13 episodes.

Flight schedules between countries don't always work like clockwork, either.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 12, 2010, 06:39:44 PM
22 or 23 days is not the 25 to 28 days it used to be with 13 episodes.

Flight schedules between countries don't always work like clockwork, either.

I been counting, it may be 25 days and 13 legs if plausible if the race ends on Tuesday.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on December 12, 2010, 06:53:41 PM
Considering they had the TBC leg it is possible to have 13 legs.

And 1st episode almost HAS to be double premiere, if it is a TBC.


YUSSS!!  :jam: :jam: :jam:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gsrqh on December 12, 2010, 07:47:58 PM
Considering they had the TBC leg it is possible to have 13 legs.

And 1st episode almost HAS to be double premiere, if it is a TBC.


YUSSS!!  :jam: :jam: :jam:

 :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: sweffilou on December 12, 2010, 08:28:15 PM
Straight from the sneak peak show at the end of Season 17 - The Season 18 name:

'The Amazing Race: Unfinished Business'[/size]
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NoluckBoston on December 12, 2010, 08:45:50 PM
I cant be the only one wondering if There were more teams at the start fighting it out for a spot on the race?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace n00b on December 12, 2010, 08:50:27 PM
I cant be the only one wondering if There were more teams at the start fighting it out for a spot on the race?

That would be very interesting.  That could also maybe explain why there are so many teams from the same season.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: interludes on December 12, 2010, 09:25:20 PM
I cant be the only one wondering if There were more teams at the start fighting it out for a spot on the race?

That's what I was thinking, unless they decided to just put in more teams in the promo to get people excited to watch. They might not necessarily even have anything to do with the new season.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gl14 on December 12, 2010, 09:54:25 PM
Straight from the sneak peak show at the end of Season 17 - The Season 18 name:

'The Amazing Race: Unfinished Business'[/size]

Looks like we also have a date for the season premiere, February 20, 2011.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 12, 2010, 10:09:55 PM
My question is, why on earth is this race running longer than normal? Are they going back to a 13 leg race?

Remember how much that snow storm affected the airports in Europe......they might have had a hard time rescheduling flights to South America.....to get all the cast and crew down there......who knows....When I was looking for flights from different airports in Europe to South American....I saw a lot of flights delayed up to 12 hours because of snow impact.....flights got cancelled......then you have to get all the those people plus the ones on the flights that finally did make it to South America.....it also might explain why we have lost the teams at times....with no sightings.......they were just parked somewhere waiting on weather and flights...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: woden on December 12, 2010, 10:22:27 PM
I cant be the only one wondering if There were more teams at the start fighting it out for a spot on the race?

When they did the promo for TAR11, they included several teams that were not actually in the Race.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on December 12, 2010, 10:59:49 PM
At least CBS and WRP are not pretending this is a season of "All Stars" or fan favorites, but are teams they decided to give a second chance to.  At least they got that part right.  :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 12, 2010, 11:22:13 PM
At least CBS and WRP are not pretending this is a season of "All Stars" or fan favorites, but are teams they decided to give a second chance to.  At least they got that part right.  :cmaslol

You are so right about that....now maybe everyone will stop calling it All Star 2.....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 13, 2010, 04:11:28 AM
Globetrotters possibly final 3
I hate them pls don't let them win.

Anyway I was playing Iphone Amazing Race and these locations were all there.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: krabbe on December 13, 2010, 05:38:16 AM
The leg in Rio sounds very much like the Rio leg in TARLA. Even the pitstop.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 13, 2010, 05:48:41 AM
Quick summary of that leg in TARLA please?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: racing_sausageWI on December 13, 2010, 06:50:48 AM
Quick summary of that leg in TARLA please?

This summary is from Wikipedia, which I know isn't always reliable, but in this instance, I figured it was ok to use.

Leg 1 (Brazil)
    * Foz do Iguaçu, Paraná, Brazil Brazil (Parque Nacional do Iguaçu – Mirante Garganta do Diabo) (Starting Line)
    * Foz do Iguaçu (Parque Nacional do Iguaçu – Garganta do Diabo Falls (Portuguese))
    * Foz do Iguaçu (Parque Nacional do Iguaçu – Cânion Iguaçu)
    * Flight: Foz do Iguaçu (Foz do Iguaçu International Airport) to Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul
    * Porto Alegre (Hotel Deville) (Overnight Rest)
    * Gramado (Portico Taquara) >Detour (Flores or Árbol)<
    * Gramado (Mini Mundo)
    * Gramado (Hotel Ritta Höppner) >Pit Stop (Leg 1)<

The Detour in this leg was Flores o Árbol ("Flowers or Tree"). In Flores, teams made their way to Lago Negro. Once there, teams had to take a swan boat out and paddle to the other shore to pick up a basket of flowers from a villager. Then they had to go back to the dock and give the basket to a female villager to receive their next clue. In Árbol, teams made their way to the Aldeia Do Papai Noel. Once in the village, teams searched in the "Arvore dos desejos" for a "Mimo" with their names written on it, which they had to give to a Goblin in order to receive their next clue.

Additional tasks

    * In Garganta do Diabo Falls, teams were instructed to find their bikes in Espaço Naipi and then ride to Mirante 2. There, they had to walk to the Canion Iguaçu entrance. In the entrance was the cluebox with their next clue.
    * In Canion Iguaçu, teams had to rappel down to the Iguaçu River shore. At the shore, teams needed to raft 4 kilometres (2.5 mi) down the river to Puerto Macuco dock. The cluebox with their next clue was waiting at the dock.
    * In Mini Mundo, teams had to find five characters that were hidden in some models of the park. They needed to match the characters with the places where they were hiding. After they were approved, teams received their next clue.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 13, 2010, 07:00:30 AM
I think you this one

 Manaus (Eduardo Gomes International Airport) to Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro (Rio de Janeiro-Galeão International Airport)
Rio de Janeiro (Hotel Copacabana Sol)
Rio de Janeiro (Sugarloaf Mountain Tram)
Rio de Janeiro (Iate Clube do Rio de Janeiro (Portuguese))
Rio de Janeiro (São Conrado Beach)
Rio de Janeiro (Copacabana Palace)
Rio de Janerio (Santa Teresa neighborhood - Taller de Getulio)
Rio de Janeiro (Cidade do Samba)
Niterói (Niterói Contemporary Art Museum)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ZBC Company on December 13, 2010, 07:01:25 AM
Quick summary of that leg in TARLA please?

This summary is from Wikipedia, which I know isn't always reliable, but in this instance, I figured it was ok to use.

Leg 1 (Brazil)
    * Foz do Iguaçu, Paraná, Brazil Brazil (Parque Nacional do Iguaçu – Mirante Garganta do Diabo) (Starting Line)
    * Foz do Iguaçu (Parque Nacional do Iguaçu – Garganta do Diabo Falls (Portuguese))
    * Foz do Iguaçu (Parque Nacional do Iguaçu – Cânion Iguaçu)
    * Flight: Foz do Iguaçu (Foz do Iguaçu International Airport) to Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul
    * Porto Alegre (Hotel Deville) (Overnight Rest)
    * Gramado (Portico Taquara) >Detour (Flores or Árbol)<
    * Gramado (Mini Mundo)
    * Gramado (Hotel Ritta Höppner) >Pit Stop (Leg 1)<

The Detour in this leg was Flores o Árbol ("Flowers or Tree"). In Flores, teams made their way to Lago Negro. Once there, teams had to take a swan boat out and paddle to the other shore to pick up a basket of flowers from a villager. Then they had to go back to the dock and give the basket to a female villager to receive their next clue. In Árbol, teams made their way to the Aldeia Do Papai Noel. Once in the village, teams searched in the "Arvore dos desejos" for a "Mimo" with their names written on it, which they had to give to a Goblin in order to receive their next clue.

Additional tasks

    * In Garganta do Diabo Falls, teams were instructed to find their bikes in Espaço Naipi and then ride to Mirante 2. There, they had to walk to the Canion Iguaçu entrance. In the entrance was the cluebox with their next clue.
    * In Canion Iguaçu, teams had to rappel down to the Iguaçu River shore. At the shore, teams needed to raft 4 kilometres (2.5 mi) down the river to Puerto Macuco dock. The cluebox with their next clue was waiting at the dock.
    * In Mini Mundo, teams had to find five characters that were hidden in some models of the park. They needed to match the characters with the places where they were hiding. After they were approved, teams received their next clue.


season 2 vist there
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 13, 2010, 07:03:41 AM
It could be possible that Christie & Jodi were invited to be on Unfinished Business, but due to the fact that they are no longer friends anymore,  :cmas4 in a way made them ineligible.  :cmas4  :cmas4  :cmas4
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on December 13, 2010, 07:03:55 AM
how many teams are left
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 13, 2010, 07:06:20 AM
Could that Twitter guy mistaken TARLA season 2
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 13, 2010, 07:15:07 AM
Could that Twitter guy mistaken TARLA season 2

It appears from his tweets, that he saw "very tall black guys"....which sounds like Flight Time and Big Easy......I dont think that TARLA had any really tall black guys.....from the pics I saw early in the race.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on December 13, 2010, 07:16:59 AM
I posted the Miami flights because they will arrive in the US, the earliest. Here are some other Rio to US flights, arriving this morning on the East Coast.....

4) Atlanta--DL60...arriving ~530am EST

5) Charlotte --AW801 (US Airways) ~602am EST

6) NYC
     JJ 8058-- arriving ~520am EST
     AA 256-- arriving ~ 629am EST

I do not know if any teams are on any of these flights.....we have had NO sightings in Rio...which I dont expect to have....Its just a heads up to anyone that would like to follow Twitter and Facebook after the planes arrive in the US.

Dr. Rox, YOour information duplicated exactly what I posted 10 hours earlier on this thread, except that you missed the flight to Washington-Dulles:


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Re: TAR 18 *Spoiler* Speculation and Discussion
« Reply #1443 on: December 11, 2010, 11:43:21 AM »
   
Peach has clarified that she meant landing in Brazil today, not departing Switzerland today. That means that all of the possible flights landed several hours ago. Rio is currently on Daylight Savings time at UTC-2, which puts them 3 hours ahead of the U.S. East Coast this time of year. The last of the flights would have landed by 10am Rio time or 7am this morning.

Anyway, since this creates the possibility that teams could be leaving Rio tomorrow, it was prudent to take another look at the flights from Rio to East Coast cities. Here it is:

Miami
drop JJ8054 because it does not fly Sundays. That leaves:
CO 8531 2158 0345+1
AA904 2226 0426+1

ATL
DL060 2224 0530+1

CLT
DL801 2250 0600+1

IAD
UA 810 (with multiple codeshares) 2350 0624+1

NYC
gain a new flight on Sunday JJ8178 2305 0615+1
AA236 2330 0640+1
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on December 13, 2010, 07:18:03 AM
The most important part of the promo for TAR 18, in my eyes, was when Phil said "And the chance to prove they deserve a second chance."

To me, that almost implies some sort of starting line task to qualify for the top 11.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 13, 2010, 07:33:27 AM
The most important part of the promo for TAR 18, in my eyes, was when Phil said "And the chance to prove they deserve a second chance."

To me, that almost implies some sort of starting line task to qualify for the top 11.

Uh-oh. Maybe Eric & Lisa got eliminated at the Starting Line again.  :cmas4
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on December 13, 2010, 07:43:53 AM
The CBS Early Show presentation of the $1 million check to Nat and Kat is over, with Brook and Claire also there. Brook said they had been invited to be in AR18, but Claire's visible pregnancy prevented it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 13, 2010, 07:45:58 AM
The CBS Early Show presentation of the $1 million check to Nat and Kat is over, with Brook and Claire also there. Brook said they had been invited to be in AR18, but Claire's visible pregnancy prevented it.

Omg!  :cmas4 Well, at least they were invited.   :cmas20
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 13, 2010, 07:48:09 AM
The most important part of the promo for TAR 18, in my eyes, was when Phil said "And the chance to prove they deserve a second chance."

To me, that almost implies some sort of starting line task to qualify for the top 11.

Uh-oh. Maybe Eric & Lisa got eliminated at the Starting Line again.  :cmas4

OMG... The irony in that is amazing! :drama :holysheep
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Zvarri on December 13, 2010, 07:53:25 AM
The CBS Early Show presentation of the $1 million check to Nat and Kat is over, with Brook and Claire also there. Brook said they had been invited to be in AR18, but Claire's visible pregnancy prevented it.

I SO wish Claire wasn't pregnant. I really want to see Brook and Claire again for another season.  :cmas4
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: USsoccer on December 13, 2010, 08:12:45 AM
The CBS Early Show presentation of the $1 million check to Nat and Kat is over, with Brook and Claire also there. Brook said they had been invited to be in AR18, but Claire's visible pregnancy prevented it.

I SO wish Claire wasn't pregnant. I really want to see Brook and Claire again for another season.  :cmas4

WOW! Really? That is about the most selfish thing anyone could say...
Wishing someone not to have a baby just so you can be entertained for an hour each week?
And, I doubt they had all the 30+ teams shown in the preview at the starting line. Hope they did though... That would show even more how S14 rocked! Until the first three eliminations I guess... : (
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Zvarri on December 13, 2010, 08:22:11 AM
The CBS Early Show presentation of the $1 million check to Nat and Kat is over, with Brook and Claire also there. Brook said they had been invited to be in AR18, but Claire's visible pregnancy prevented it.

I SO wish Claire wasn't pregnant. I really want to see Brook and Claire again for another season.  :cmas4

WOW! Really? That is about the most selfish thing anyone could say...
Wishing someone not to have a baby just so you can be entertained for an hour each week?
And, I doubt they had all the 30+ teams shown in the preview at the starting line. Hope they did though... That would show even more how S14 rocked! Until the first three eliminations I guess... : (

Ugh, moron. How the hell is this selfish? I am happy for Claire. Many people want to see them back. Take that as a complement.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: selkie on December 13, 2010, 08:24:41 AM
It's not so much the pregnancy as the timing of it that's a little disappointing. A lot of folks were disappointed that the timing of Christie's pregnancy kept her and Colin off All-Stars and wished that the happy event would have happened a little sooner or later so they could have competed again.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Mister RC on December 13, 2010, 08:25:31 AM
I'm not sure [apskip] meant it that way. Can't speak for him though. For me, I am happy that Claire is expecting her first child. However, I'm saddened that the race is being taped while she's pregnant.  Even if TAR18 had started taping in March after she delivered, she'd still be unavailable.

So yes, it's a shame that they would have made it (which could have meant no Jaime/Cara) but IMO, family is more important than any race.  No one knew that this year was going to feature a return of past racers, and there's no guarantee that Brook/Claire would have been selected to return.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on December 13, 2010, 08:34:17 AM
At least Brooke and Claire were asked... now, someone please explain to me about TAR 13... :cmas28
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 13, 2010, 08:54:54 AM
I so wanted Brooke and Claire (hope for another season that can feature them)
I guess Ken and Tina Broke up again. Toni was too old and don't want to. Starr and Nc won
others weren't memorable . The college boys were funny ' Maria sharapova? Annna kourilova lol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gl14 on December 13, 2010, 09:02:47 AM
Quote

Doesn't Connor work in Korea now? Maybe hes too busy. I'm not sure about Kevin.

Really? Where's the source for that? What kind of work?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 13, 2010, 09:18:00 AM
I so wanted Brooke and Claire (hope for another season that can feature them)
I guess Ken and Tina Broke up again. Toni was too old and don't want to. Starr and Nc won
others weren't memorable . The college boys were funny ' Maria sharapova? Annna kourilova lol

Umm..as far as I know, Ken & Tina are still together! :angel:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 13, 2010, 09:19:21 AM
I so wanted Brooke and Claire (hope for another season that can feature them)
I guess Ken and Tina Broke up again. Toni was too old and don't want to. Starr and Nc won
others weren't memorable . The college boys were funny ' Maria sharapova? Annna kourilova lol

Umm..as far as I know, Ken & Tina are still together! :angel:

Yes they are...check the Racers threads!  :cmas16
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 13, 2010, 09:28:49 AM
Could that Twitter guy mistaken TARLA season 2

It appears from his tweets, that he saw "very tall black guys"....which sounds like Flight Time and Big Easy......I dont think that TARLA had any really tall black guys.....from the pics I saw early in the race.

Sorry he's description is too clos. To the TARLA leg

 I think you this one

 Manaus (Eduardo Gomes International Airport) to Rio de Janeiro, Rio de Janeiro (Rio de Janeiro-Galeão International Airport)
Rio de Janeiro (Hotel Copacabana Sol)
Rio de Janeiro (Sugarloaf Mountain Tram)
Rio de Janeiro (Iate Clube do Rio de Janeiro (Portuguese))
Rio de Janeiro (São Conrado Beach)
Rio de Janeiro (Copacabana Palace)
Rio de Janerio (Santa Teresa neighborhood - Taller de Getulio)
Rio de Janeiro (Cidade do Samba)
Niterói (Niterói Contemporary Art Museum)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 13, 2010, 09:33:05 AM
I so wanted Brooke and Claire (hope for another season that can feature them)
I guess Ken and Tina Broke up again. Toni was too old and don't want to. Starr and Nc won
others weren't memorable . The college boys were funny ' Maria sharapova? Annna kourilova lol

Umm..as far as I know, Ken & Tina are still together! :angel:

Good thing I guess they broken up, but good to know they are still together
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: SkyWriter9 on December 13, 2010, 09:34:12 AM
Does anyone have a link for the Season 18 "announcement"? It didn't appear on the iTunes episode.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on December 13, 2010, 10:01:00 AM
For the last 2 hours I have been researching all routes from GIG, GRU, EZE, SCL and LIM (the largest airports in South America) into Miami, Atlanta, Charlotte, Washington-Dulles and JFK. My conclusion was that it was impossible to get form Rio starting at midnight at reported in a Tweet to GRU in time to get either of these flight schedules:

AA998 0110 0630  actual dep. 1043 9.6 hours late , arrival expected 1547 9.3 hours late
AA930 0205 0735  actual dep. 0336 2.5 hours late,  arrival 0936 2 hours late

The latest connecting flight from Rio was:
G31631 GIG GRU 2230 0001+1

So, how is it possible to teams to be spotted at that hotel at midnight and get to Sao Paulo airport within one to two hours. Inquiring minds want to know. The most obvious explanation is that the timing of the Tweet was off  by a few hours.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 13, 2010, 10:02:37 AM
How did we end up with the TAR17 finale airing yesterday and spoiling the TAR18 finale today?!?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 13, 2010, 10:07:27 AM
How did we end up with the TAR17 finale airing yesterday and spoiling the TAR18 finale today?!?

It just does'nt get any better than this.  :cmas9  :cmas16
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on December 13, 2010, 10:09:37 AM
Does anyone have a link for the Season 18 "announcement"? It didn't appear on the iTunes episode.

They never showed it in Canada here. Try youtube?

DON'T PUT YOUTUBE LINKS PLEASE! :waves:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on December 13, 2010, 10:12:04 AM
Does anyone have a link for the Season 18 "announcement"? It didn't appear on the iTunes episode.

They never showed it in Canada here. Try youtube?

DON'T PUT YOUTUBE LINKS PLEASE! :waves:

oops didnt mean to if it was against the rules butwhy?

Peach has once said that we are trying to protect the uploaders. If CBS trackers find that guy, they might remove ALL of his videos because they are under copyright.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 13, 2010, 10:17:16 AM
That's why I think that guy was using Tarla leg and thought it was actual TAR
Intact teams were actually in RIO but different places
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 13, 2010, 10:19:23 AM
I'll upload the preview tonight, can't do it now..
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on December 13, 2010, 10:25:45 AM
Bye spoiling world. I'll stay away from any TAR18 spoilers because I don't wanna know who the Final 3 are. Thanks detectives for the awesomely LIVE and up-to-date coverage of TAR Spoilers.

 :xmas49 :cmas0 :cmas20
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: USsoccer on December 13, 2010, 10:39:49 AM
I'm not sure [apskip] meant it that way. Can't speak for him though. For me, I am happy that Claire is expecting her first child. However, I'm saddened that the race is being taped while she's pregnant.  Even if TAR18 had started taping in March after she delivered, she'd still be unavailable.

So yes, it's a shame that they would have made it (which could have meant no Jaime/Cara) but IMO, family is more important than any race.  No one knew that this year was going to feature a return of past racers, and there's no guarantee that Brook/Claire would have been selected to return.

Thank you for putting it in the right context!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 13, 2010, 01:27:15 PM
It's really over TAR 18 finish?!?!? WOW!!, What a fast day same day on TAR 17 finale?!?!?  :cmas30:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: KingCrimson88 on December 13, 2010, 03:28:58 PM
So how is it that they apparently landed over 6 hours ago and there has been no sightings?  :cmas5
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gsrqh on December 13, 2010, 03:31:41 PM
So how is it that they apparently landed over 6 hours ago and there has been so sightings?  :cmas5

Maybe to protect the running and finishing of the race?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: KingCrimson88 on December 13, 2010, 03:43:09 PM
They have surely finished racing by now, though.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: USsoccer on December 13, 2010, 04:05:33 PM
They have surely finished racing by now, though.

Not if Luke is doing the final challenge and it involves surf boards... :cmaslol
I think it took him over 2 hrs last time! :cmas50
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: BK_amazing_race on December 13, 2010, 04:18:53 PM
USoccer... thats just so wrong to say.  Anyways, other websites are posting that Brook and Claire and Team Jumba may be back for this season!  It's funny cause we know that they arent!... Unless there was a pre starting line elimination.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 13, 2010, 04:24:21 PM
I assume The Race is Finished
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 13, 2010, 04:31:52 PM
USoccer... thats just so wrong to say.  Anyways, other websites are posting that Brook and Claire and Team Jumba may be back for this season!  It's funny cause we know that they arent!... Unless there was a pre starting line elimination.

Which is why Rob, Puddin, Peach, and TL have built this site to be the best at reality tv spoilers!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gsrqh on December 13, 2010, 04:43:58 PM

Which is why Rob, Puddin, Peach, and TL have built this site to be the best at reality tv spoilers!

 :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 13, 2010, 04:53:56 PM
They have surely finished racing by now, though.

Not if Luke is doing the final challenge and it involves surf boards... :cmaslol
I think it took him over 2 hrs last time! :cmas50

Luke is a member on here...what do think he'll think about the things people have been posting about him when he returns?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 13, 2010, 05:15:42 PM
They have surely finished racing by now, though.

Not if Luke is doing the final challenge and it involves surf boards... :cmaslol
I think it took him over 2 hrs last time! :cmas50

Luke is a member on here...what do think he'll think about the things people have been posting about him when he returns?


The only explanation for the no sightings is there must have been a sighting if you get what I am saying.

No, I don't get what you are saying.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Mister RC on December 13, 2010, 05:35:13 PM
They have surely finished racing by now, though.

Not if Luke is doing the final challenge and it involves surf boards... :cmaslol
I think it took him over 2 hrs last time! :cmas50

Luke is a member on here...what do think he'll think about the things people have been posting about him when he returns?


The only explanation for the no sightings is there must have been a sighting if you get what I am saying.

No, I don't get what you are saying.

I guess that means there was a sighting, but you won't see it here because maybe there's too much info in it that would disclose the end of the race.  Either that, or there was a sighting, but the people that have that information will get to posting it if and when necessary.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 13, 2010, 06:51:32 PM
Kevin posting he's going To Australia . Smokescreen probaly
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: USsoccer on December 13, 2010, 08:24:44 PM
They have surely finished racing by now, though.

Not if Luke is doing the final challenge and it involves surf boards... :cmaslol
I think it took him over 2 hrs last time! :cmas50

Luke is a member on here...what do think he'll think about the things people have been posting about him when he returns?

I think he will be able to read it with a smile on his face. He knows he lost the race 2 years ago and he beat himself up over it... but that didn't keep him from bragging about the race for a long while... and now he got another shot at it! His to win now! Just think what the odds are for any regular person to make it on the Race, TWICE! He can consider himself to be one of the luckiest people (in TAR fan terms anyways).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Mister RC on December 13, 2010, 09:06:42 PM
Plus, whenever we poke fun at any errors on the race, it's directed at Luke the racer, not Luke as himself.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: steve2010 on December 13, 2010, 09:59:41 PM
How did we end up with the TAR17 finale airing yesterday and spoiling the TAR18 finale today?!?

Cant find anything who are the F3 and thank you.  :cmas26
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TexasLady on December 13, 2010, 10:22:27 PM
How did we end up with the TAR17 finale airing yesterday and spoiling the TAR18 finale today?!?

Cant find anything who are the F3 and thank you.  :cmas26

Good WRP Planning?  :cmaslol  Apparently the race ended today, now it's time to hunt for tweets and check the other social networks to see if the teams were spotted and where.

Welcome to RFF Steve! As the RFF members find the clues they will be posted.  :cmas16 (We invite you to join in the hunt as well!)

:bigwelcome
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 13, 2010, 11:42:47 PM
Obviously Peach ain't not talk. So let's vote her off next
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ovalorange on December 14, 2010, 12:03:30 AM
Obviously Peach ain't not talk. So let's vote her off next

Without Peach, we wouldn't have a lot of the information we know about this season. She has been one of the main people who has been finding out the spoilers and bring it to us. She is respected by a lot of members on here, so I don't think many people will join you on getting rid of her. (Not that we could get rid of her if we tried  :cmaslol). She isn't posting now because she's been to TARcon and is tired. She will tell us some information when the time is right, we all just need to be patient.  :cmas16
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: livingincm on December 14, 2010, 12:16:54 AM
Obviously Peach ain't not talk. So let's vote her off next

-.- i've been here since the topic started which is almost a month ago. The first thing i do when i wake up and the last thing i do when i go to bed is to read the RFF forum. Im dying to know the F3 but for things to unfold, you gotta have patience. Peach contributed so much into this forum so for you to say such a statement, dude, ________.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on December 14, 2010, 12:30:48 AM
Obviously Peach ain't not talk. So let's vote her off next

 :cmas28 I would like to see you post continuously for 24 hours without sleeping. If you can do that, peach will tell us who the F3 is. :cmas16
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on December 14, 2010, 12:32:33 AM
They have surely finished racing by now, though.

Not if Luke is doing the final challenge and it involves surf boards... :cmaslol
I think it took him over 2 hrs last time! :cmas50

Luke is a member on here...what do think he'll think about the things people have been posting about him when he returns?

I think he will be able to read it with a smile on his face. He knows he lost the race 2 years ago and he beat himself up over it... but that didn't keep him from bragging about the race for a long while... and now he got another shot at it! His to win now! Just think what the odds are for any regular person to make it on the Race, TWICE! He can consider himself to be one of the luckiest people (in TAR fan terms anyways).

As far as i've heard from Luke in this forum, he sure didn't "brag" about the race for a long while. Were you on another forum?? :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 14, 2010, 03:21:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLA85gaUs8g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLA85gaUs8g)<----- official promo 1

Here: The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business first promo....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 14, 2010, 03:45:08 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLA85gaUs8g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLA85gaUs8g)<----- official promo 1

Here: The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business first promo....

Guess you missed this post upthread.....

Does anyone have a link for the Season 18 "announcement"? It didn't appear on the iTunes episode.

They never showed it in Canada here. Try youtube?

DON'T PUT YOUTUBE LINKS PLEASE! :waves:

oops didnt mean to if it was against the rules butwhy?

Peach has once said that we are trying to protect the uploaders. If CBS trackers find that guy, they might remove ALL of his videos because they are under copyright.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 14, 2010, 03:49:22 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLA85gaUs8g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLA85gaUs8g)<----- official promo 1

Here: The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business first promo....


Oh, okay.. thanks for information.. What i do?

Guess you missed this post upthread.....

Does anyone have a link for the Season 18 "announcement"? It didn't appear on the iTunes episode.

They never showed it in Canada here. Try youtube?

DON'T PUT YOUTUBE LINKS PLEASE! :waves:

oops didnt mean to if it was against the rules butwhy?

Peach has once said that we are trying to protect the uploaders. If CBS trackers find that guy, they might remove ALL of his videos because they are under copyright.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: eragon on December 14, 2010, 06:51:06 AM
saw this article...

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The Amazing Race's next season: Unfinished business


BY KAT ANGUS, DOSE.CA DECEMBER 13, 2010

...
STORYPHOTOS ( 1 )



The Amazing Race's 18th season will bring back popular teams who lost the race to travel the globe again.
Photograph by: CBS, CBS
During every season finale of The Amazing Race, we always feel bad for the eliminated teams that have to stand at the welcome mat to congratulate the winners. But for many of this season’s losers, last night’s finale wasn’t that upsetting, because they’ll be getting another chance next season.

According to Courant.com, Season 18 of The Amazing Race is subtitled “Unfinished Business” and will take popular teams who didn’t win the race and send them around the globe once again. Several of the Season 17 teams have already been cast, including father-daughter team Gary and Mallory, almost-quitters Nick and Vicki (boo!), newly engaged Chad and Stephanie, father-son team Michael and Kevin and the a capella singers Connor and Jonathan.

While the next season could be called an “All-Star” season, the casting directors only chose teams from recent years to compete. From Season 16 are cowboys Jet and Cord, ditsy models Brent and Caite and detectives Louie and Michael.

Season 15 teams include Harlem Globetrotters Flight Time and Big Easy, poker players Mari and Tiffany, plus Zev and Justin (whom Courant.com describes as “the Asperger’s guy and his friend”).

From Season 14, they’re bringing back father-son team Mel and Mike, NFL cheerleaders (and lookalikes) Jaime and Cara, stuntment Mark and Michael, mother-and-deaf-son Margie and Luke, couple Amanda and Kris and sisters Kisha and Jen.

Mother and son team Toni and Dallas, last seen losing their passports in Season 13, will get another chance, as will Season 12’s father-daughter team Ronald and Christina and dating Goths Kynt and Vyxsin.

If that seems like a ridiculous number of teams, it is – but it’s also an “All-Star” season, and the first one to be shot in HD, so The Amazing Race needs to be bigger than ever before. Season 18 of The Amazing Race debuts Feb. 20, 2011.

Read more: http://www.dose.ca/Amazing+Race+next+season+Unfinished+business/3970904/story.html#ixzz184p51ryD
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ltvols on December 14, 2010, 07:09:00 AM
Unless we've just been completely punk'd for the last 23 days, many of those people aren't on the next season! 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on December 14, 2010, 07:20:03 AM
Unless we've just been completely punk'd for the last 23 days, many of those people aren't on the next season! 

I can guarantee you that the eleven I saw were the only 11, unless they packed up the clue boxes so they could experience the joy of putting them back up again.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 14, 2010, 07:33:56 AM
I think they were assuming these teams from the preview that was shown.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: USsoccer on December 14, 2010, 08:01:44 AM
Unless we've just been completely punk'd for the last 23 days, many of those people aren't on the next season! 

I can guarantee you that the eleven I saw were the only 11, unless they packed up the clue boxes so they could experience the joy of putting them back up again.

I counted 31 teams in that promo... Anyone have a different number?
And judging from their FB accounts, teams like Preston and Jennifer were not at the starting line...
Hence, CBS just wants to get the chatter and rumors started. But why did they show those teams and not others? I know from season 14 they left out Steve and Linda, Brad and Victoria, and Christie and Jodi.
From S13 they only showed Toni and Dallas... And they used a bunch from S17, I guess because they were fresh on our minds?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 14, 2010, 08:06:06 AM
Obviously Peach ain't not talk. So let's vote her off next

If that means I get to go lie on a beach somewhere at Ponderosa and have a chef feed me delicious meals with lots of chocolate.....

then OH YES PLEASE!!! Do it soon!! :lol:


 :beach:



Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 14, 2010, 08:10:45 AM
Obviously Peach ain't not talk. So let's vote her off next

If that means I get to go lie on a beach somewhere at Ponderosa and have a chef feed me delicious meals with lots of chocolate.....

then OH YES PLEASE!!! Do it soon!! :lol:


 :beach:





Can we come with you?  :cmas22 :mas25
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: caper on December 14, 2010, 08:17:17 AM
Obviously Peach ain't not talk. So let's vote her off next

If that means I get to go lie on a beach somewhere at Ponderosa and have a chef feed me delicious meals with lots of chocolate.....

then OH YES PLEASE!!! Do it soon!! :lol:


 :beach:  Not a chance, no way, no  :boot: for you Peach!!!-  I can cook up a perfectly good meal here- :hellkitchen  - and for desert - s'mores anyone?  :camping:



Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 14, 2010, 08:20:40 AM

 I can cook up a perfectly good meal here- :hellkitchen  - and for desert - s'mores anyone?  :camping:


That's a whole different reality show!  :cmaslol :cmaslol :lol3: Winks!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 14, 2010, 08:28:04 AM
Love y'all!!  But oh yes...a beach and s'more's would work for me!! (Are you reading this CBS?? :luvu: )


But enough fun! Let's at least try to start moving back on topic!   :kisses
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 14, 2010, 08:29:12 AM
Y'all are smart....and have looked at the old AllStars promos and things right?

OF COURSE CBS is going to have a wonderful promo of the upcoming season. Full of ALL the racers everyone would LOVE or HATE to see come back for ALLStars. It did a great job of intriguing everyone and grabbing their interest! I know...I saw it first with a great group of fans who adore the show...

But we know better here...  :cmas16

OUR cast list is 100%!

and for fun...go read this closely....

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23693.msg573563.html#msg573563

My favorite part from nearly three months ago!

Quote
it has been widely speculated online for months that TAR 18 could be an "All-Stars" of some sort. While that term is not being used officially


and

Quote
There does seem to be a certain selection of teams who may have something they have wanted/needed to prove.... second chances, particular rematches, old rivalries revived??
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 14, 2010, 08:30:07 AM
Do you know who the final three is?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: allie303 on December 14, 2010, 08:47:29 AM
Do you know who the final three is?

Well, we have to wait until Peach decides it's safe to do so.

I'm sure we'll find out before February  :cmas0  :cmas23
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 14, 2010, 09:07:16 AM
Do you know who the final three is?

And y'all wonder why my inbox is always full?  :cmas30:

You all can STOP emailing and PM'ing me... ""I know you willl tell ME" is not the way to my heart just now.

I am just going to say that we do have a lot of info. And some will NOT be released right now...some MAY be able to be released when we wade thru the data.

But meanwhile...

Did you all even read this??

:welcome3: to TAR 18 FINALE DAY!

ALL 11 teams have arrived into Miami airport from Sao Paulo Brazil.   


We were telling you that ALL 11 teams arrived on the same flight.

8 teams exited customs and immediately began racing decoy thru Miami airport....some with clues in hand...in MIAMI airport on a busy Monday morning around 930!!

And you are telling me that there is not one tweet or Facebook or blog post about this?? Or.....HORRORS...did no one here look? ???   :cmas5

Come on guys...get busy!!  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 14, 2010, 09:13:01 AM
I was very surprised at the lack of social networking activity yesterday. They usually do a pretty good job of hiding the final though and having all the teams running around is going to make a mess of things.

One thought from that info is that ES may have been in South America so the FT/BE sighting does not definitely mean that they were still an active team.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ltvols on December 14, 2010, 09:14:00 AM
based on this post.....8 teams exited customs racing decoys....does that mean the final 3 are still stuck in customs???  HAHA  Just kidding  :cmas22

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 14, 2010, 09:16:54 AM
Peach.....

I found ONE tweet....and it was for Delhi......nothing so far about Miami.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: walkingpneumonia on December 14, 2010, 09:49:52 AM
8 teams exited customs and immediately began racing decoy thru Miami airport....some with clues in hand...in MIAMI airport on a busy Monday morning around 930!!
And you are telling me that there is not one tweet or Facebook or blog post about this?? Or.....HORRORS...did no one here look? ???   :cmas5
Come on guys...get busy!!  :hearts:
I spent most of yesterday looking for clues - nothing out there - or it was hidden under tons of TAR17 congratulatory tweets. (Apparently TAR 17 ended on Sunday.)

Oh - did you mean Miami Florida or Miami Ohio?  :cmas5
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 14, 2010, 09:51:57 AM
8 teams exited customs and immediately began racing decoy thru Miami airport....some with clues in hand...in MIAMI airport on a busy Monday morning around 930!!
And you are telling me that there is not one tweet or Facebook or blog post about this?? Or.....HORRORS...did no one here look? ???   :cmas5
Come on guys...get busy!!  :hearts:
I spent most of yesterday looking for clues - nothing out there - or it was hidden under tons of TAR17 congratulatory tweets. (Apparently TAR 17 ended on Sunday.)

Oh - did you mean Miami Florida or Miami Ohio?  :cmas5

Miami Florida, wp. I believe they came in on AA930 if that helps. They would have been in the city from about 10am to 6pm roughly.

All the TAR17 finale stuff really clogs it up for sure.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 14, 2010, 10:11:16 AM
I was constantly searching twitter yesterday-nothing :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: north09 on December 14, 2010, 11:10:42 AM
Do you know who the final three is?

And y'all wonder why my inbox is always full?  :cmas30:

You all can STOP emailing and PM'ing me... ""I know you willl tell ME" is not the way to my heart just now.

I am just going to say that we do have a lot of info. And some will NOT be released right now...some MAY be able to be released when we wade thru the data.

But meanwhile...

Did you all even read this??

:welcome3: to TAR 18 FINALE DAY!

ALL 11 teams have arrived into Miami airport from Sao Paulo Brazil.   


We were telling you that ALL 11 teams arrived on the same flight.

8 teams exited customs and immediately began racing decoy thru Miami airport....some with clues in hand...in MIAMI airport on a busy Monday morning around 930!!

And you are telling me that there is not one tweet or Facebook or blog post about this?? Or.....HORRORS...did no one here look? ???   :cmas5

Come on guys...get busy!!  :hearts:

I think the production team kept in mind that we would start searching twitter and facebook for Miami sightings. After all, we were bound to at least know the end city before teams got there. So what better time to end it then the day after the TAR17 finale. When I went to check twitter, The Amazing Race was a trending topic. I'm sure there is something out there, but to get to it requies digging through millions of "congrats Nat/Kat" tweets.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 14, 2010, 11:33:04 AM
Luke just updated his status saying that he is moving to LAX after X'Mas (Just sayin').  :cmas19

Damn, they are so good at keeping secrets!  :cmas22

(P.S Welcome back, deafracer!) Winks!  :cmas0
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 14, 2010, 11:48:04 AM
So Luke Won?!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 14, 2010, 11:48:31 AM
So Luke Won?!

I wouldn't go that far....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 14, 2010, 12:07:21 PM
So Luke Won?!

I wouldn't go that far....

Me neither.

Brook also mentioned moving to LA days before the Finale, and they did'nt win. (I'm not saying that M/L did'nt win either)

We don't have much information at our disposal now. So let's keep our eyes peeled for those sightings!  :cmas16  :cmas22
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: woden on December 14, 2010, 12:13:35 PM
In the prediction category, I wouldn't be surprised if this place (http://jimbosplace.com/) showed up in the finale.  :waves:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on December 14, 2010, 12:15:46 PM
Luke just updated his status saying that he is moving to LAX after X'Mas (Just sayin').  :cmas19


Why would he move to an airport?  :cmas50
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 14, 2010, 12:19:28 PM
Luke just updated his status saying that he is moving to LAX after X'Mas (Just sayin').  :cmas19


Why would he move to an airport?  :cmas50


Whoops! The Aviation-Nut in me!  :-[ I meant to say Los Angeles City.  :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 14, 2010, 12:27:24 PM
I spent most of yesterday looking for clues - nothing out there - or it was hidden under tons of TAR17 congratulatory tweets. (Apparently TAR 17 ended on Sunday.)

Oh - did you mean Miami Florida or Miami Ohio?  :cmas5

:neener: You are so funny.... Miami Ohio indeed. :pull

That was good strategy. :lol:  Whether it worked or not!

Lots of distracting tweets.... something else going on... ALL teams on the same flight!! (I think that is a first)... lots of ohmygoshIcan't believe NO-ONE saw themdecoys!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on December 14, 2010, 12:31:20 PM
Our unknown destination between Switzerland and Brazil could be anywhere in Europe or North Africa making room for a new country.  Belgium, Luxembourg, Denmark, Malta, Algeria and Serbia are the main possibilities.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 14, 2010, 12:33:05 PM
Hey admins we should get a smiley for that!

 :puter:

Nice AR! Is this going to become a thing?

Some reports of it's use are already surfacing.... :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 14, 2010, 12:43:42 PM
We'll never get any more updates. .. Unless
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on December 14, 2010, 01:01:41 PM
I spent most of yesterday looking for clues - nothing out there - or it was hidden under tons of TAR17 congratulatory tweets. (Apparently TAR 17 ended on Sunday.)

Oh - did you mean Miami Florida or Miami Ohio?  :cmas5

:neener: You are so funny.... Miami Ohio indeed. :pull

That was good strategy. :lol:  Whether it worked or not!

Lots of distracting tweets.... something else going on... ALL teams on the same flight!! (I think that is a first)... lots of ohmygoshIcan't believe NO-ONE saw themdecoys!!!!!!!!!!

Was ES in Brazil? I like that!  :cmas16
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 14, 2010, 01:14:36 PM


Was ES in Brazil? I like that!  :cmas16

I don't think so....I think they were just brought in.

Not sure that there was a task in SP either, they could have just driven to the flights?? :duno:

And that hours long flight delay could nave been due to pilot illness....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on December 14, 2010, 01:18:18 PM
Yeah now I think about it, it's possible that ES was in SE Asia or Australia. Then a flight to Sao Paulo from Sydney or Auckland.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on December 14, 2010, 02:31:02 PM
Yeah now I think about it, it's possible that ES was in SE Asia or Australia. Then a flight to Sao Paulo from Sydney or Auckland.

Yes, it could have been there but why not South America? There are plenty of nice resorts to send them to along the Atlantic coast in Brazil, or to an estancia in Uruguay or Argentina or even to somewhere near Santiago. The 2 places I know for sure that have non-stop flights from Auckland are Santiago and Buenos Aires and from Buenos Aires you can get to Uruguay or Brazil.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on December 14, 2010, 02:32:46 PM
8 teams exited customs and immediately began racing decoy thru Miami airport....some with clues in hand...in MIAMI airport on a busy Monday morning around 930!!
And you are telling me that there is not one tweet or Facebook or blog post about this?? Or.....HORRORS...did no one here look? ???   :cmas5
Come on guys...get busy!!  :hearts:
I spent most of yesterday looking for clues - nothing out there - or it was hidden under tons of TAR17 congratulatory tweets. (Apparently TAR 17 ended on Sunday.)

Oh - did you mean Miami Florida or Miami Ohio?  :cmas5
My post from yesterday morning at about 1030am confirmed that it had to be AA930 arriving 2 hours and 1 minute late into Miami.

Miami Florida, wp. I believe they came in on AA930 if that helps. They would have been in the city from about 10am to 6pm roughly.

All the TAR17 finale stuff really clogs it up for sure.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on December 14, 2010, 02:38:08 PM
Our unknown destination between Switzerland and Brazil could be anywhere in Europe or North Africa making room for a new country.  Belgium, Luxembourg, Denmark, Malta, Algeria and Serbia are the main possibilities.

I will restate once again for the record that I believe it was a second leg in Switzerland. I offered Basel, Lucerne, St. Moritz, Bern, and Zermatt as possibilities, although there are many others. The reason I believe this is because Zurich is the most logical airport for teams to make the jump over "the Pond" (aka Atlantic Ocean) to Rio or Sao Paulo although Paris and Lisbon can also claim the same distinction. A cost-sensitive World Race Productions should not have sent teams to another duplicated country and city when they could show off the beauty of Switzerland.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 14, 2010, 04:22:33 PM
Yeah now I think about it, it's possible that ES was in SE Asia or Australia. Then a flight to Sao Paulo from Sydney or Auckland.

Yes, it could have been there but why not South America? There are plenty of nice resorts to send them to along the Atlantic coast in Brazil, or to an estancia in Uruguay or Argentina or even to somewhere near Santiago. The 2 places I know for sure that have non-stop flights from Auckland are Santiago and Buenos Aires and from Buenos Aires you can get to Uruguay or Brazil.

Maybe they chose Elimination Station for Australia or South-East Asia because a majority of the early eliminations took place in that part of the world. We know they were in India until Leg 5, maybe even Leg 6.

It would minimise costs to keep everyone in that part of the world, for example, getting Amanda & Kris a flight from AUS to for example Sao Paulo, getting Mel & Mike a flight from Japan to Sao Paulo, Jaime & Cara a flight from China to Sao Paulo - that would be more expensive than keeping them all in, for example, Australia.

I dunno, I'm just speculating here. :cmas5
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 14, 2010, 04:59:17 PM
The Elimination Station could be in India for all we know.  :xmas146
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 14, 2010, 05:15:03 PM
In RFF's history of spoiling, has there ever been an ES sighting?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 14, 2010, 05:16:25 PM
Yes
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on December 14, 2010, 05:16:58 PM
In RFF's history of spoiling, has there ever been an ES sighting?

(Sorry for going back to the spoilerlands, I'm going out soon. :lol:)

Yes. Season 16 had several of the teams spotted in Mexico (including JJ)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ltvols on December 14, 2010, 10:52:42 PM
peach mentioned "pilot illness" for a possible reason to the 2 hour delay.  For some reason, I can't get this out of my head.  Is it a clue???  I fly quite a bit and have never heard of "pilot illness" as reason for a delay.  hmmmm

I guess if I can't find tweets or sightings, I've resorted to analyzing words....ugh!  give me a tweet please  :cmas50
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 15, 2010, 09:35:01 AM
Imagine, right now.. we only know who the first 3 teams eliminated are... as opposed to knowing the F3...

There are some people who only watch TAR because of the teams they like... imagine if everyone knew who the F3 are... it could potentially affect ratings... and it does not help too IF the F3 consist of 3 teams which the audiences generally do not like.

Just my two cents. :cmas16

*cough* TAR 11 *cough*

Yes, Zack and Joab, All-Stars tend to create odd finales. This can be attributed to different luck and the odd choice of teams to begin with.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Mug Costanza on December 15, 2010, 09:37:57 PM
I've actually been to Vienna and been on the Riesenrad, so that'll be exciting for me to see what they have to do there. (I've also been to Fisherman's Bastion in Budapest, the Pit Stop for the Budapest super-leg in TAR6.) It's pretty cool to watch a show like The Amazing Race and think, "Hey! I've been there!" :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 15, 2010, 09:39:33 PM
I wish they would go to Salzburg!!!!!!!!  :cmas29
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 15, 2010, 09:58:34 PM
I wish they would go to Salzburg!!!!!!!!  :cmas29

I know off topic, pitstop on second leg of season 14 was in Salzburg.

I know, I wish they would do some real tasks there!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 16, 2010, 08:27:38 AM
KevJumba just posted on facebook ---Just landed in Melbourne! it was an extremely long journey... can't wait to meet some cool Australian peeps :)........ Kev and Michael in the new season? I hope sooo =) :cmas23 :cmastree

Welcome to RFF, squids!
FYI, TAR 18 is finished recording already. Please read the spoiler timeline thread!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 16, 2010, 12:43:42 PM
Tweet response:

only saw jet/cord @ the Delhi airport in the intl terminal's food court around midnight 12/5
about 19 hours ago via web

I can't decide if seeing them alone is a good thing or a bad thing.  :cmas5

This helps explain what they were doing on the 4th. Probably another India leg and then flying out from Delhi. Since they were standing around in the food court it was probably a while until their flight left. (I would go with OS 34 et al Austrian Air, Air India, and Lufthansa codeshare it and it leaves at 2:32am)
Also Vienna is 4 1/2 hours behind so it gives plenty of time for FT/BE to be spotted in Vienna.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: weihen on December 16, 2010, 11:59:51 PM
Looks like...

Leg1 Australia
Leg2 Japan
Leg3 China
Leg4 China
Leg5 India
Leg6 India
Leg7 Austria
Lrg8 Liechtenstein
Leg9 Switzerland
Leg10 Unknown
Leg11 Brazil
Leg12 USA

right?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: north09 on December 17, 2010, 12:08:06 AM
Looks like...

Leg1 Australia
Leg2 Japan
Leg3 China
Leg4 China
Leg5 India
Leg6 India
Leg7 Austria
Lrg8 Liechtenstein
Leg9 Switzerland
Leg10 Unknown
Leg11 Brazil
Leg12 USA

right?

Except I believe Australia is being split into 2 legs
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on December 17, 2010, 12:14:23 AM
Looks like...

Leg1 Australia
Leg2 Japan
Leg3 China
Leg4 China
Leg5 India
Leg6 India
Leg7 Austria
Lrg8 Liechtenstein
Leg9 Switzerland
Leg10 Unknown
Leg11 Brazil
Leg12 USA

right?

Except I believe Australia is being split into 2 legs

It depends on your definition of 2 legs. Phil was present, and a greeter, but they never had the rest period in Sydney.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on December 17, 2010, 04:00:55 AM
Some guy on sucks posted this as the final 3 and their placings

SERIOUS (Whether they are fake or not) SPOILERS-

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They posted that
Gallory won,
Globetrotters came second
and
Ron and Christina came third.

Im not sure whether to trust it, but I am liking the winners if its true.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on December 17, 2010, 04:37:36 AM
according to the past experience, we seldom get the result of Final 3
so i don't believe that
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin88 on December 17, 2010, 06:23:55 AM
Some guy on sucks posted this as the final 3 and their placings

SERIOUS (Whether they are fake or not) SPOILERS-

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They posted that
Gallory won,
Globetrotters came second
and
Ron and Christina came third.

Im not sure whether to trust it, but I am liking the winners if its true.


no offense but you actually believe what they say at sucks?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 17, 2010, 07:08:48 AM
Looks like...

Leg1 Australia
Leg2 Japan
Leg3 China
Leg4 China
Leg5 India
Leg6 India
Leg7 Austria
Lrg8 Liechtenstein
Leg9 Switzerland
Leg10 Unknown
Leg11 Brazil
Leg12 USA

right?

This looks right to me. I would guess at Germany, Spain, UK area for the unknown.

And don't forget Africa.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: topaz on December 17, 2010, 08:00:16 AM
I do believe it looks like this:

Legs 1&2: Australia
Legs 3&4: Japan
Legs 5&6: China
Leg 7: India
Leg 8: Austria
Leg 9: Liechtenstein & Switzerland (a double leg?)
Leg 10: Iceland
Leg 11: Brazil (a double leg?)
Leg 12: Miami
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2010, 08:03:09 AM
Nope.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 17, 2010, 08:29:15 AM
Well let me try this again.......clues are 1) Australia is 2 episodes, 2) 12 leg race, 3) Sao Paulo is not a leg.

Leg 1a, Episode 1   Sydney
Leg 1b, Episode 2  Broken Hill
Leg 3,   Episode 3  Yokohama/Toyko
Leg 4,   Episode 4  Ligiang, China
Leg 5,   Episode 5  Kunming, China
Leg 6,   Episode 6  Kolkata, India
Leg 7,   Episode 7  Varanasi/Benares, India
Leg 8,   Episode 8  Vienna, Austria
Leg 9,   Episode 9  Austria/Lichtenstein/Switzerland
Leg 10, Episode 10  Somewhere in the Alps
Leg 11, Episode 11  Rio De Janeiro, Brasil
Leg 12, Episode 12  Miami, USA
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 17, 2010, 08:38:12 AM
Well let me try this again.......clues are 1) Australia is 2 episodes, 2) 12 leg race, 3) Sao Paulo is not a leg.

Leg 1a, Episode 1   Sydney
Leg 1b, Episode 2  Broken Hill
Leg 3,   Episode 3  Yokohama/Toyko
Leg 4,   Episode 4  Ligiang, China
Leg 5,   Episode 5  Kunming, China
Leg 6,   Episode 6  Kolkata, India
Leg 7,   Episode 7  Varanasi/Benares, India
Leg 8,   Episode 8  Vienna, Austria
Leg 9,   Episode 9  Austria/Lichtenstein/Switzerland
Leg 10, Episode 10  Somewhere in the Alps
Leg 11, Episode 11  Rio De Janeiro, Brasil
Leg 12, Episode 12  Miami, USA

I don't know if ep 10 is still in Europe, but the rest of it looks good!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 17, 2010, 08:55:46 AM

I don't know if ep 10 is still in Europe, but the rest of it looks good!

Well you are certainly able to post your speculated route.......
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ZBC Company on December 17, 2010, 09:37:40 AM

did you thing brazil elimatoin statoin
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mike4lyf on December 17, 2010, 01:20:44 PM
Some guy on sucks posted this as the final 3 and their placings

SERIOUS (Whether they are fake or not) SPOILERS-

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.
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..
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They posted that
Gallory won,
Globetrotters came second
and
Ron and Christina came third.

Im not sure whether to trust it, but I am liking the winners if its true.


no offense but you actually believe what they say at sucks?


Im just posting what I read.. Doesn't mean I believe it, hence where I said (whether they are fake or not)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 17, 2010, 01:50:07 PM
Everyone:
RFF is ten times better than other "spoiler" forums such as Survivor Sucks because people like GeorgiaPeach, TexasLady, Rob, and Puddin make it better. There's no need to believe other forums when you have RFF, whose spoilers are more accurate than the others!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: north09 on December 17, 2010, 02:13:03 PM
Looks like...

Leg1 Australia
Leg2 Japan
Leg3 China
Leg4 China
Leg5 India
Leg6 India
Leg7 Austria
Lrg8 Liechtenstein
Leg9 Switzerland
Leg10 Unknown
Leg11 Brazil
Leg12 USA

right?

Except I believe Australia is being split into 2 legs

It depends on your definition of 2 legs. Phil was present, and a greeter, but they never had the rest period in Sydney.

True. Which is why it could only be one leg. But since peach said that Australia is two episodes, I think thats whats confusing. There should be 12 legs. If you look at the leaderboard for TAR14, the TBC in China was counted as one leg, but only made that 11 legs in total with 12 episodes.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DavidJunior on December 17, 2010, 02:22:12 PM
Whether Australia turns out to be one leg or two, I believe we're only looking for one location.

we have:
LA to Broken Hill, Australia via Sydney (either leg 1, or leg 1 & 2)
Australia to Yokohama, Japan (leg 2 or 3)
Japan to Lijiang, China (leg 3 or 4)
Lijiang to Kunming, China (leg 4 or 5)
China to Kolkata, India (leg 5 or 6)
Kolkata to ???, India (leg 6 or 7)
India to Vienna, Austria (leg 7 or 8)
Austria to Switzerland via Liechtenstein (leg 8 or 9)
Switzerland to Unknown (either leg 9 and 10, or just leg 10)
unknown to Rio, Brazil (leg 11)
Brazil to Miami (leg 12: finale)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on December 17, 2010, 02:52:34 PM
The problem earlier was the need to clarify "episodes" from  "legs" and once we had that clarification, treating the TBC as one leg, two episodes, that gives us 11 legs, 12 episodes. That's an example why brevity and clarity are not always the same thing. :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Zack. on December 17, 2010, 03:34:08 PM
Could there be enough time for a second Brazil leg possibly? There appears to be a day and change free for the transatlantic flight, a brief "physical" leg like the first legs in Moscow, Beijing, and Prague in TAR 13-15, and a pit stop to have teams racing on the 10th in the morning.

In sum:

LA to Sydney to Broken Hill
Australia to Yokohama
Japan to Lijiang
Lijiang to Kunming
China to Kolkata
Kolkata to (probably India)
(probably India) to Vienna
Vienna to Liechtenstein to Switzerland
Switerzland to RDJ
RDJ
Brazil to Miami
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gl14 on December 17, 2010, 08:08:23 PM
If 9 of 11 teams were spotted in Miami airport, do you think the Elimination Station is located somewhere in the Caribbean?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 17, 2010, 08:21:55 PM
Which 9 teams?

They saw Zev and Justin?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 17, 2010, 09:21:32 PM
If 9 of 11 teams were spotted in Miami airport, do you think the Elimination Station is located somewhere in the Caribbean?

All the teams came in via Sao Paulo. No idea where ES is....I was guessing Asia.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DaNutzki on December 17, 2010, 09:33:41 PM
If 9 of 11 teams were spotted in Miami airport, do you think the Elimination Station is located somewhere in the Caribbean?

All the teams came in via Sao Paulo. No idea where ES is....I was guessing Asia.

Hope it's in Asia and i feel that it is located in Southeast Asia if this is their ES location and these are my possible choices:

Thailand, Malaysia or the Philippines.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on December 17, 2010, 11:36:30 PM
If 9 of 11 teams were spotted in Miami airport, do you think the Elimination Station is located somewhere in the Caribbean?

All the teams came in via Sao Paulo. No idea where ES is....I was guessing Asia.

Hope it's in Asia and i feel that it is located in Southeast Asia if this is their ES location and these are my possible choices:

Thailand, Malaysia or the Philippines.

It could be the Australian outback for all we know (That or SE Asia).
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on December 18, 2010, 05:38:27 AM
Is this season where they have final 2?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 18, 2010, 07:32:54 AM
If 9 of 11 teams were spotted in Miami airport, do you think the Elimination Station is located somewhere in the Caribbean?

All the teams came in via Sao Paulo. No idea where ES is....I was guessing Asia.

Hope it's in Asia and i feel that it is located in Southeast Asia if this is their ES location and these are my possible choices:

Thailand, Malaysia or the Philippines.


Im thinking south america. Brazil maybe? and welcome to the rff

My two cents worth about the Elimination Station is that it is SE Asia or Australia. My only reasoning is that the first 4-5 elimination would've all taken place before teams left India, which would make that region geographically feasable. :cmas16

However, I think that RealityTVistheBest's idea of South America could also be very likely, since we know teams flew to Miami from Brazil. :cmas5

Considering all of the facts that we have accumulated, all I can conclude is:

ES is not in Antarctica! :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NoluckBoston on December 18, 2010, 09:37:41 AM
I think they may have changed up the ending but only on the spot. What I mean is that they knew everything was getting spoiled by us. Rob mentioned on his radio program how CBS was upset. It possible they decided the throw us all off at the last minute. Send all the teams to Brazil instead of Miami first.

 :cmas28
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 18, 2010, 09:45:53 AM
Is this season where they have final 2?

I doubt it.I personally think the finale wouldn't be as exciting with just two teams-much less suspenseful.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 18, 2010, 09:48:04 AM
I have wondered if the Sydney leg was supposed to be a TBC.......or they changed it to that because of that one plane having to land in Hawaii.....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Zack. on December 18, 2010, 05:43:54 PM
Something I noticed when looking at the pictures:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Finale%20LIVE%2012-13-10/K-JandFT-BE2marked-Copy.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Finale%20LIVE%2012-13-10/Jenattaximarked-Copy.jpg)

Headscarves? In Miami? Especially since Kisha had no issue with showing off her crazy cool hairdo (and, given how TAR tries to orient teams by name as they face camera, I think it's Kisha in pic 9)?

I recall in TAR 13, when they had a stop in Bangkok en route to Delhi, they had teams wear headbands / bandannas / tied scarves in order to identify themselves as racers (Dan/Andrew had yellow). Perhaps, with everyone (or nearly everyone) there and grabbing clues, they felt a similar need to identify active racers?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 18, 2010, 06:37:55 PM
Something I noticed when looking at the pictures:

(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Finale%20LIVE%2012-13-10/K-JandFT-BE2marked-Copy.jpg) (http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb140/ga--peach/TAR%2018/Finale%20LIVE%2012-13-10/Jenattaximarked-Copy.jpg)

Headscarves? In Miami? Especially since Kisha had no issue with showing off her crazy cool hairdo (and, given how TAR tries to orient teams by name as they face camera, I think it's Kisha in pic 9)?

I recall in TAR 13, when they had a stop in Bangkok en route to Delhi, they had teams wear headbands / bandannas / tied scarves in order to identify themselves as racers (Dan/Andrew had yellow). Perhaps, with everyone (or nearly everyone) there and grabbing clues, they felt a similar need to identify active racers?

An interesting find, Zack! This is possible!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 18, 2010, 07:13:41 PM
Because of where they were and the weather conditions I would go with eastern France, southern Germany, or northern Italy.
I also wouldn't rule out the UK area.

Man.....the name of this place is on the tip of my tongue.....................oh yeah......its Switzerland..........sorry.....just couldnt help myself!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 18, 2010, 07:16:55 PM
So is it:

ep 6-7 India

ep8 Vienna

ep9 Lichtenstein

ep 10 southern Switzerland

ep 11 Brazil

ep 12 Miami/Keys

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 18, 2010, 07:58:53 PM
Well let me try this again.......clues are 1) Australia is 2 episodes, 2) 12 leg race, 3) Sao Paulo is not a leg.

Leg 1a, Episode 1   Sydney
Leg 1b, Episode 2  Broken Hill
Leg 3,   Episode 3  Yokohama/Toyko
Leg 4,   Episode 4  Ligiang, China
Leg 5,   Episode 5  Kunming, China
Leg 6,   Episode 6  Kolkata, India
Leg 7,   Episode 7  Varanasi/Benares, India
Leg 8,   Episode 8  Vienna, Austria
Leg 9,   Episode 9  Austria/Lichtenstein/Switzerland
Leg 10, Episode 10  Somewhere in the Alps  Zermatt
Leg 11, Episode 11  Rio De Janeiro, Brasil
Leg 12, Episode 12  Miami, USA

Bingo!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 18, 2010, 08:24:23 PM
 :winner
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 18, 2010, 08:26:44 PM
Well let me try this again.......clues are 1) Australia is 2 episodes, 2) 12 leg race, 3) Sao Paulo is not a leg.

Leg 1a, Episode 1   Sydney
Leg 1b, Episode 2  Broken Hill
Leg 3,   Episode 3  Yokohama/Toyko
Leg 4,   Episode 4  Ligiang, China
Leg 5,   Episode 5  Kunming, China
Leg 6,   Episode 6  Kolkata, India
Leg 7,   Episode 7  Varanasi/Benares, India
Leg 8,   Episode 8  Vienna, Austria
Leg 9,   Episode 9  Austria/Lichtenstein/Switzerland
Leg 10, Episode 10  Somewhere in the Alps  Zermatt
Leg 11, Episode 11  Rio De Janeiro, Brasil
Leg 12, Episode 12  Miami, USA

Bingo!!!


wait. why does it go from Leg1b to Leg 3?? or is there an unknown location?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 18, 2010, 08:35:10 PM
Try this:  :xmas49

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23692.msg583345.html#msg583345
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Reilly Queens on December 18, 2010, 08:42:10 PM
Try this:  :xmas49

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23692.msg583345.html#msg583345


So this means it was a TBC leg or 2 legs  :cmas5 :cmas5
If so there was no rest period in Sydney....

We have our newest twist!!


A 30 second Pit stop! Where you can take 2 deep breaths and get back out there!  :cmaslol


but then leg "1" is a NEL and I heard leg 3 was one to?!

that means a lot of eliminations in a row  :cmas5
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 18, 2010, 09:16:36 PM
Kandace......it really just a little bookeeping method for me.........leg 1b is same as leg 2.......but since the first leg was a TBC....it gets a little confusing........I hope this makes sense.....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on December 18, 2010, 09:48:38 PM
Technically there were 11 legs, with one of those being an TBC/double/uber-leg. It still adds up to 12 episodes.

The fact we haven't seen a TBC/double/uber leg in several seasons seems to be tripping some people up.  It shouldn't, but that's the only way I can explain it.  Personally, I'm glad to see that the uberleg is still in the tool kit for the Race course, as it is a great way to induce fatigue, even on leg 1!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 18, 2010, 09:59:26 PM
So this means it was a TBC leg or 2 legs  :cmas5 :cmas5
If so there was no rest period in Sydney....
We have our newest twist!!
A 30 second Pit stop! Where you can take 2 deep breaths and get back out there!  :cmaslol
but then leg "1" is a NEL and I heard leg 3 was one to?!
that means a lot of eliminations in a row  :cmas5

"Legs" end on the mat with Phil, with either an elimination or a non elimination.

A TBC  (Too Be Continued) ends on the mat with Phil giving the teams a new clue and telling them to race on and no elimination. It is two segments of one leg.....I happen to enumerate them as "a" and "b" to keep it straight in my mind what is happening. Normally both parts of the TBC leg are single episodes seen on TV......ie a complete show.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: topaz on December 19, 2010, 03:13:39 AM
imo, i think the final 3 teams for TAR 18 (Unfinished Business) are: the Globetrotters, Gary and Malory and Zev and Justin.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on December 19, 2010, 05:31:03 AM
how about the cowboys?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 19, 2010, 08:12:14 AM
Since Kisha and Jen were seen on a train coming into Zurich, apparently from Vienna, this is probably ow they get to Zermatt as well. It looks like there are many rail connections from Zurich to Zermatt. Perhaps the reason K/J were "not racing" is that once they get to Zurich it is still another 3 1/2 hours by train to Zermatt.

I am still not sure why there were no other teams seen on the train with them. At this point there are four or five teams left depending on how many NEL we have had. I would guess four b/c ep10 is usually the final NEL.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 19, 2010, 10:30:43 AM
imo, i think the final 3 teams for TAR 18 (Unfinished Business) are: the Globetrotters, Gary and Malory and Zev and Justin.

How do you figure this?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 19, 2010, 11:19:46 AM
Looks like we are lucky our racers made it home when they did!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101219/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_europe_weather
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ZBC Company on December 19, 2010, 11:27:29 AM
Looks like we are lucky our racers made it home when they did!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101219/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_europe_weather


does that mean eroupe it closed darn now i have change my race couser
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redwings8831 on December 19, 2010, 11:31:32 AM
Looks like we are lucky our racers made it home when they did!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101219/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_europe_weather


does that mean eroupe it closed darn now i have change my race couser

Yes they have shut down the entire continent. :cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 19, 2010, 11:32:06 AM
I was trying to figure out how the teams got from Zermatt to Rio.........and Frankfurt Airport was a mess then too....lots of really delayed flights and cancellations too.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 19, 2010, 06:18:23 PM
Yeah, all the soccer games I've been watching this week have been taking place on snow-covered fields. Most of the games in England this weekend were postponed!

I hope we get some lovely HD Snow-Scenery! That would be amazing! :cmas18
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on December 22, 2010, 04:43:06 PM
It's time for some speculation about what transportation teams used to get from India to Europe, specifically Vienna as best as RFF hypothesizers can tell. Most significant shortest-time flights from India to Vienna are going to connect through either Mumbai or Delhi airport. Here is the situation from Mumbai:

Nonstop is OS36 BOM VIE 0125 0535  Note- this is a 8 hour 40 minute scheduled duration and limited to Friday 12/3 and Sunday 12/5 (doesn't fly 12/4)

Alternatives connect through Munich at 2 hours 15 minutes more, Zurich at 3 hours 5 minutes more, Frankfurt at 3 hours 5 minutes, Dubai 3 hours 20 minutes, Doha 3 hours 45 minutes

Here is the situation from Delhi:

Nonstop is OS34 DEL VIE 0230 0600 Note- this is a 8 hour scheduled duration and limited to Friday 12/3 and Sunday 12/5 (doesn't fly 12/4  )

Alternatives connect through Zurich at 3 hours more, Munich at 3 hours 15 minutes more, Frankfurt 3 hours 25 minutes, Amsterdam 3 hours 35 minutes,
Helsinki 3 hours 55 minutes.


The transportation between Vienna and Zurich is assumed by some on RFF to be by train. Although it is a gorgeous route, the most rapid trains take 8 hours, leaving at 720am and 920am. I believe that this is a segment that will be done by flying. There are flights bunched into a few time frames, around 7am, 10am and 230pm, and take 85 minutes plus lead time to transit security and ticketing at Vienna airport.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 23, 2010, 01:19:15 AM
Kisha and Jen were seen on a train...

Info in the Timeline thread:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23631.0.html
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DaNutzki on December 23, 2010, 01:47:47 AM
I think this is also the second time that a penultimate leg will end in South America before going back to the US because most of the other seasons, Asia is mostly its penultimate leg with a count of 9.  The last South American penultimate leg that they visited was Season 7 and it was in Puerto Rico.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 23, 2010, 01:49:57 AM
Would Puerto Rico count as So America though?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DaNutzki on December 23, 2010, 02:01:36 AM
Would Puerto Rico count as So America though?

Yup, it's still in the Americas, but it's in the Southern Part of the continent.   :cmas22
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: tarfan92 on December 23, 2010, 02:11:54 AM
No, Puerto Rico is a US territory, you don't need a passport to go there. I thought most people considered the Caribbean part of Central America which is North America.

I know Wikipedia isnt the best source, but the Demographics for SA don't include the Caribbean, but North America does.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/South_america#Demographics

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/North_America#Countries_and_territories

So I think its proper to say that TAR18 is the first season with a South American penultimate leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 23, 2010, 02:14:07 AM
A voice of reason.Thanks!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DaNutzki on December 23, 2010, 02:14:41 AM
Were there flights in Europe got affected in the race by the snowstorm?  Just as what is being seen in the news recently.  Hope the racers were fine.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DaNutzki on December 23, 2010, 02:17:46 AM
No, Puerto Rico is a US territory, you don't need a passport to go there. I thought most people considered the Caribbean part of Central America which is North America.

I know Wikipedia isnt the best source, but the Demographics for SA don't include the Caribbean, but North America does.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/South_america#Demographics

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/North_America#Countries_and_territories

So I think its proper to say that TAR18 is the first season with a South American penultimate leg.

Thanks to that, having some confusions on which countries are in the North and South Americas.

Well said.   :cmas16
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DaNutzki on December 23, 2010, 02:22:24 AM
So let me correct it, so it will be the first time that the penultimate leg will be in a South American Country.  Now i got it.  Hope i've done it right.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 23, 2010, 03:55:39 AM
Were there flights in Europe got affected in the race by the snowstorm?  Just as what is being seen in the news recently.  Hope the racers were fine.

TAR 18 ended prior to the heavy snows.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 23, 2010, 04:52:50 AM
Were there flights in Europe got affected in the race by the snowstorm?  Just as what is being seen in the news recently.  Hope the racers were fine.

TAR 18 ended prior to the heavy snows.

The snows that are hitting Europe now are the 2nd pass. The first pass of storms was when teams were in Inida. As I said.....you can just look at Frankfurt airport when teams were in the Vienna to Zurich to Zermatt time frame and see multiple cancellations and delays due to the first wave of storms. Whether it affect TAR....I doubt we will ever know till the show airs.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 23, 2010, 06:16:14 AM
Interesting if they took trains BECAUSE of the weather!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 23, 2010, 06:45:04 AM
I looked at Weather Underground for central Europe and London......from Nov 28 to about Dec 5......the temp basically never got above freezing (32F/0C)....then it hovered around the freezing point till Dec 10/11. I checked Vienna, Zurich, Frankfurt, Paris and London. Vienna got some small precipatation, but all the others reported no precipatation. It was just a severe cold spell. I remember it on the news at the time.....but I thought there was snow associated with it.....apparently not.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: chill_sd on December 23, 2010, 09:22:40 AM
So let me correct it, so it will be the first time that the penultimate leg will be in a South American Country.  Now i got it.  Hope i've done it right.

There's always some confusion, since many people think South America = Latin America.  Latin America refers to all the Spanish and Portuguese speaking countries in the western hemisphere, including Mexico.  But Mexico is clearly part of the North American continent.

Central America is the countries from Guatemala to Panama, inclusive.

The islands in the Caribbean are actually in North America for the most part.

South America is everything south of Panama.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Pedaler on December 23, 2010, 10:41:50 AM
Has it been speculated or confirmed that the TAR 18 premier will be longer than one hour?  Does anyone believe that the first episode of a season would end without a team being eliminated?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 23, 2010, 11:54:59 AM
Has it been speculated or confirmed that the TAR 18 premier will be longer than one hour?  Does anyone believe that the first episode of a season would end without a team being eliminated?

We don't know how long the premier will be at this point in time. We don't know where the premier will end-whether at the TBC point or in Broken Hill-at this point in time. However, I could have missed some information at some point. :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on December 23, 2010, 12:26:37 PM
Other than the announced premiere date of February 20th, and the assumed start time being the usual 8 pm, EST, CBS has not announced anything about the length or content of the first episode.

In all likelihood, CBS will announce the teams and the schedule for that night in late January.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 23, 2010, 12:54:56 PM
Peach........as to the train trip from Vienna to Zurich......

The main line splits at Innsbruck. To the right (north) it the route to Munich. Straight ahead (west) is the route through the Tyrol and Black Forrest to Frankfurt. At Lauterach, Austria, it splits again....to the left the trains cross the Rhein at St. Margrethen, Switzerland and head back south to Sargans on the Swiss side of the Rhein and then on to Zurich.

If teams did take the overnight EN (EuroCity Night) train or the RJ (Railjet) train, they could exit the train at Buchs SG station in Buchs, Switzerland and either walk, drive or ride across the bridge over the Rhein to enter Liechtenstein. There are no trains to Liechtenstein. The bridge at Buchs seems to be the main entry to Liechtenstein. There are only about 6-7 bridges. To me, they could have done tasks in both Liechtenstein and in the Buchs/Sargans area. It is only about 10-11 miles from Buchs to Sargans.

After finishing in Liechtenstein/Buchs/Sargans, I would assume that one of the Swiss Regional or Interregional trains would have been better to get back to or onward to Zurich. They are more numerous than waiting for the long distance trains.

The spoiler got on the IR 1776 at Ziegelbruecke, Switzerland, which is about 1/3 the way from Sargans to Zurich.

As apskip pointed out.....it is easier to fly to Zurich from Vienna, then take the train from Zurich to Buchs SG. Unless Production did another rolling pit stop and used the train from Vienna to Buchs SG. One thing I have noticed in TAR 18, is what I call a "rally point." By that, I mean that park/courtyard in Sydney where all the teams hung out for a while and the same thing in Lijiang......where those people talked to Christina. Production may have been doing this all along and I just never noticed it till now. If they did have a pit stop around Liechtenstein, Buchs or Sargans.......K/J could have been in transit to another "rally point" in Zurich or to their hotel in Zurich before the next leg. Or as speculated before, they are eliminated and on the way to a hotel/flight to Brasil. I would think that Production would want to separate the teams on the way to Zurich to keep them from all being noticed......maybe.

Someone mentioned what a small country Liechtenstein is.......yes it is one of those small European pincipalities.......but I just think of Liechtenstein as a very large bank.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 23, 2010, 01:19:27 PM
Other than the announced premiere date of February 20th, and the assumed start time being the usual 8 pm, EST, CBS has not announced anything about the length or content of the first episode.

In all likelihood, CBS will announce the teams and the schedule for that night in late January.

the schnauzers.........When do the networks announce their spring schedules to the trades?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 23, 2010, 01:45:33 PM

As apskip pointed out.....it is easier to fly to Zurich from Vienna, then take the train from Zurich to Buchs SG. Unless Production did another rolling pit stop and used the train from Vienna to Buchs SG. One thing I have noticed in TAR 18, is what I call a "rally point." By that, I mean that park/courtyard in Sydney where all the teams hung out for a while and the same thing in Lijiang......where those people talked to Christina. Production may have been doing this all along and I just never noticed it till now. If they did have a pit stop around Liechtenstein, Buchs or Sargans.......K/J could have been in transit to another "rally point" in Zurich or to their hotel in Zurich before the next leg. Or as speculated before, they are eliminated and on the way to a hotel/flight to Brasil. I would think that Production would want to separate the teams on the way to Zurich to keep them from all being noticed......maybe.

Someone mentioned what a small country Liechtenstein is.......yes it is one of those small European pincipalities.......but I just think of Liechtenstein as a very large bank.

This is some very good information, Doc! I have also noticed the "rally points" throughout this season and this could explain why KJ were not racing while on the train.

Liechtenstein is the world's largest producer of sausage casings and false teeth.  :stirtp: You would think the Race could use that somehow.  :snics:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on December 23, 2010, 04:51:33 PM
Other than the announced premiere date of February 20th, and the assumed start time being the usual 8 pm, EST, CBS has not announced anything about the length or content of the first episode.

In all likelihood, CBS will announce the teams and the schedule for that night in late January.

the schnauzers.........When do the networks announce their spring schedules to the trades?

Some announcements have already been made; CBS posted one on Monday for some shows that will premiere as late as April.

If you mean the more detailed scheduling, it's usually about a month before the air date, but details for some shows such as TAR, might only be a week ahead. I've also noticed that sweeps months (February, May) tend to be three or four weeks ahead so that trade and entertainment publications can schedule their articles. My suggesting late January is based on February being a sweeps month, and usually (but not always), one can piece together a planned extended episode. (One good source for this are the show pages at the Futon Critic; (link) (http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch.aspx?id=amazing_race&view=listings) At the moment they've projected the 12 episodes, and a preemption on April 3rd, so that the finale would be on May 15th. So they don't have any further details yet, either.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 23, 2010, 06:20:48 PM
Liechtenstein is the world's largest producer of sausage casings and false teeth.  :stirtp: You would think the Race could use that somehow.  :snics:
What an awesome fact! That could make an interesting Detour! :cmas22
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on December 23, 2010, 07:03:40 PM
Liechtenstein is the world's largest producer of sausage casings and false teeth.  :stirtp: You would think the Race could use that somehow.  :snics:
What an awesome fact! That could make an interesting Detour! :cmas22
If memory serves me right, there was a sausage detour in All-Stars (making sausage ropes and consuming them cooked) and there was a false teeth task in TAR 14, IIRC.
If it wasn't AS, then it was TAR 9 as I remember Eric being at that task.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on December 23, 2010, 07:11:56 PM
For a really insightful discussion about the cold weather in Europe, and the strange start to the winter weather this year in the Northern Hemisphere, here's a blog entry posted today (http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1714) by Dr. Jeff Masters, the co-founder of Weather Underground.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 23, 2010, 07:30:37 PM
Liechtenstein is the world's largest producer of sausage casings and false teeth.  :stirtp: You would think the Race could use that somehow.  :snics:
What an awesome fact! That could make an interesting Detour! :cmas22
If memory serves me right, there was a sausage detour in All-Stars (making sausage ropes and consuming them cooked) and there was a false teeth task in TAR 14, IIRC.
If it wasn't AS, then it was TAR 9 as I remember Eric being at that task.


You're right, I remember those too. I think it was AS b/c Dustin and Kandice did it too.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on December 24, 2010, 02:09:34 AM
They made sausage in TAR 6 in Berlin.......then ate them in Krakow in TAR 11 in the intersection.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NoluckBoston on December 24, 2010, 12:08:03 PM
.......then ate them in Krakow in TAR 11 in the intersection.

Mmmmmmm Kielbasa!
 :cmas26
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: 2old4tech on December 24, 2010, 01:08:41 PM
One of my all time favorite detours.  :lol3:

                         
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 24, 2010, 01:33:57 PM
Liechtenstein is the world's largest producer of sausage casings and false teeth.  :stirtp: You would think the Race could use that somehow.  :snics:
What an awesome fact! That could make an interesting Detour! :cmas22
If memory serves me right, there was a sausage detour in All-Stars (making sausage ropes and consuming them cooked) and there was a false teeth task in TAR 14, IIRC.
If it wasn't AS, then it was TAR 9 as I remember Eric being at that task.


You're right, I remember those too. I think it was AS b/c Dustin and Kandice did it too.

The teeth were from season 14 i remember margie doing the task they had to fix someone's teeth in Thailand.

Yes. The detour was either the karaoke taxi, or fitting the right dentures to people. Margie didn't seem to mind doing it because she'd been a dental nurse/nurse. I can't remember now accurately.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 24, 2010, 01:37:55 PM
One of my all time favorite detours.  :lol3:

                         

It was followed by the knight and armor task involving the horse. Funny line: "Come on, horsey. Would you like a sausage?"
:lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 24, 2010, 05:35:22 PM
I think that Krakow leg in All-Stars was made for Charla! :cmaslol :mas25
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kadilahopper on December 26, 2010, 02:32:32 PM
Do we know who the final three teams are?  I am not computer prolific, but I do find my way around the forum eventually.  If this info is posted anywhere a hint would  be helpful.  Any boyscouts out there.:<)
MERRY CHRISTMAS :cmastree :cmastree  :cmas51 :cmas23 :xmas110 :kisses :cmas26 :cmas9 :xmas49 :cmas16
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 26, 2010, 02:38:45 PM
Do we know who the final three teams are?  I am not computer prolific, but I do find my way around the forum eventually.  If this info is posted anywhere a hint would  be helpful.  Any boyscouts out there.:<)
MERRY CHRISTMAS :cmastree :cmastree  :cmas51 :cmas23 :xmas110 :kisses :cmas26 :cmas9 :xmas49 :cmas16

Merry Christmas to you to, kalida!
As far as I know, we do not have concrete evidence as to who the F3 teams of TAR 18 are, but we have some educated guesses...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Snooky on December 26, 2010, 03:19:42 PM
Do we know who the final three teams are?  I am not computer prolific, but I do find my way around the forum eventually.  If this info is posted anywhere a hint would  be helpful.  Any boyscouts out there.:<)
MERRY CHRISTMAS :cmastree :cmastree  :cmas51 :cmas23 :xmas110 :kisses :cmas26 :cmas9 :xmas49 :cmas16

Merry Christmas to you to, kalida!
As far as I know, we do not have concrete evidence as to who the F3 teams of TAR 18 are, but we have some educated guesses...
I'm not sure the word "we" means that it speaks for everyone because I am sure many here know the final 3, they just choose not to give that info out to the public.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 26, 2010, 03:25:04 PM
Do we know who the final three teams are?  I am not computer prolific, but I do find my way around the forum eventually.  If this info is posted anywhere a hint would  be helpful.  Any boyscouts out there.:<)
MERRY CHRISTMAS :cmastree :cmastree  :cmas51 :cmas23 :xmas110 :kisses :cmas26 :cmas9 :xmas49 :cmas16

Merry Christmas to you to, kalida!
As far as I know, we do not have concrete evidence as to who the F3 teams of TAR 18 are, but we have some educated guesses...
I'm not sure the word "we" means that it speaks for everyone because I am sure many here know the final 3, they just choose not to give that info out to the public.

I think that if concrete evidence existed, Peach would have told us by now.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Snooky on December 26, 2010, 03:29:29 PM
Do we know who the final three teams are?  I am not computer prolific, but I do find my way around the forum eventually.  If this info is posted anywhere a hint would  be helpful.  Any boyscouts out there.:<)
MERRY CHRISTMAS :cmastree :cmastree  :cmas51 :cmas23 :xmas110 :kisses :cmas26 :cmas9 :xmas49 :cmas16

Merry Christmas to you to, kalida!
As far as I know, we do not have concrete evidence as to who the F3 teams of TAR 18 are, but we have some educated guesses...
I'm not sure the word "we" means that it speaks for everyone because I am sure many here know the final 3, they just choose not to give that info out to the public.

I think that if concrete evidence existed, Peach would have told us by now.
:cmaslol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 26, 2010, 10:49:34 PM
Do we know who the final three teams are?  I am not computer prolific, but I do find my way around the forum eventually.  If this info is posted anywhere a hint would  be helpful.  Any boyscouts out there.:<)
MERRY CHRISTMAS :cmastree :cmastree  :cmas51 :cmas23 :xmas110 :kisses :cmas26 :cmas9 :xmas49 :cmas16

As always, the first and second post of the TimeLine thread has updated info.

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23631.0.html
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: franxaverian on December 29, 2010, 07:08:44 PM
I'm still not sure whether it is true but once I saw a comment in a youtube video of TAR 17 finale that mentions Kynt and Vyxsin got eliminated in India (againnn...... :cmas4 )

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 29, 2010, 07:16:20 PM
Link please?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: paldog123456 on December 29, 2010, 07:21:46 PM
Hi, I', new here.  :cmas16

Are the final 3 teams known yet?

paldog123456
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 29, 2010, 07:47:30 PM
:welcome:

The best place to look for updates are the first two posts of this thread...enjoy!

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23631.0.html
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DaNutzki on December 29, 2010, 08:53:17 PM
:welcome:

The best place to look for updates are the first two posts of this thread...enjoy!

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23631.0.html

Thanks for posting the updates of the partial summary of TAR 18.  The other infos are still a guess to me.  Haha!  Anybody can make it to the Final Three.

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU, PEACH!   :cmas16
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: KevinTheAmazingRaceFAN on December 30, 2010, 04:55:56 AM
Link please?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTKcl_izo8U

page 3,

2 of his comments were deemed as a spam....I wonder why he mentioned RFF for the elimination list...


Oh yeah, I saw that this is what he said:



The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business

Leg 1 (Nov 21): LA to Sydney, Australia. Last place: Jet & Cord (non-elimination)

Leg 2: Sydney - Broken Hill. Eliminated: Amanda & Kris

Leg 3: Broken Hill - Sydney - Tokyo, Japan. Eliminated: Mel & Mike and Kisha and Jen (double elim)  (WTH  :cmas5 :cmas5)

Leg 4: Toyko - Kunming/Lijiang, China. Eliminated: Jamie & Cara

Leg 5: Kunming - Calcutta, India. Eliinated: Kynt & Vyxsin (goths eliminated in india again)

The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business

Leg 6: Calcutta - Madrid, Spain. Eliminated: Jet & Cord (u-turned by margie & luke)

Leg 7: Madrid - Vienna, Austria. Last place: Zev & Justin (non-elimination)

Leg 8: Vienna. Eliminated: Ron & Christina

The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business

Leg 9: Vienna to ?, Switzerland (as of 13 December 2010)

Legs 10 & 11: Possible S. America (teams spotted booking flights)

Leg 12 End City: Newark NJ USA

Final Three: Flight time & bigeasy, Gary & mallory, Margie & luke

watch out for sightings for legs 10-12 as the race ends filming around end of this week to early next week at end city.

reliable sightings and photos from realityfanforum 100% accurate
sugargabonatyahoocom 1 week ago
sugargabonatyahoocom 1 week ago
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on December 30, 2010, 06:15:23 AM
Now that I see the list, I'd say ignore it. Without looking anything up, I see 3 or 4 things on it that are contradictory to what we do know and therefore are obviously wrong. I don't think you can trust any of the rest of it.  :cmas13

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on December 30, 2010, 06:22:34 AM
Now that I see the list, I'd say ignore it. Without looking anything up, I see 3 or 4 things on it that are contradictory to what we do know and therefore are obviously wrong. I don't think you can trust any of the rest of it.  :cmas13



I suspect this poster is combining things he read, what he wants to happen, and good old fashioned guessing.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: alextofu07 on December 30, 2010, 06:44:06 AM
some spotted Kisha & Jen in China
i doubt that if this prediction is true
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 30, 2010, 09:27:43 AM
I would be highly surprised if some random Youtube commenter has more knowledge of sightings and eliminations than the detectives on this forum.

I would be even more surprised if he is basing these "predictions" on sightings that we were not able to find.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on December 30, 2010, 12:48:54 PM
So is everybody giving up on this season already or what?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 30, 2010, 12:51:01 PM
So is everybody giving up on this season already or what?

Unless somebody is withholding information they need to share, there's nothing to talk about until the episodes begin airing.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 30, 2010, 05:11:35 PM
Since that person had Newark as the end city and Kisha/Jen  out on the third leg as a double elim...

I  would just :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 30, 2010, 05:13:42 PM
Since that person had Newark as the end city and Kisha/Jen  out on the third leg as a double elim...

I  would just :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

:lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
:lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
:lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
:lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
:lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
:lol3: :lol3: :lol3:

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kinibug on December 30, 2010, 06:29:15 PM
Link please?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTKcl_izo8U

page 3,

2 of his comments were deemed as a spam....I wonder why he mentioned RFF for the elimination list...


Oh yeah, I saw that this is what he said:



The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business

Leg 1 (Nov 21): LA to Sydney, Australia. Last place: Jet & Cord (non-elimination)

Leg 2: Sydney - Broken Hill. Eliminated: Amanda & Kris

Leg 3: Broken Hill - Sydney - Tokyo, Japan. Eliminated: Mel & Mike and Kisha and Jen (double elim)  (WTH  :cmas5 :cmas5)

Leg 4: Toyko - Kunming/Lijiang, China. Eliminated: Jamie & Cara

Leg 5: Kunming - Calcutta, India. Eliinated: Kynt & Vyxsin (goths eliminated in india again)

The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business

Leg 6: Calcutta - Madrid, Spain. Eliminated: Jet & Cord (u-turned by margie & luke)

Leg 7: Madrid - Vienna, Austria. Last place: Zev & Justin (non-elimination)

Leg 8: Vienna. Eliminated: Ron & Christina

The Amazing Race 18: Unfinished Business

Leg 9: Vienna to ?, Switzerland (as of 13 December 2010)

Legs 10 & 11: Possible S. America (teams spotted booking flights)

Leg 12 End City: Newark NJ USA

Final Three: Flight time & bigeasy, Gary & mallory, Margie & luke

watch out for sightings for legs 10-12 as the race ends filming around end of this week to early next week at end city.

reliable sightings and photos from realityfanforum 100% accurate
sugargabonatyahoocom 1 week ago
sugargabonatyahoocom 1 week ago

Aside from what we all know to be wrong,there is 1 other thing I can definitely say is wrong.I'm not
going to spoil it yet however.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on December 30, 2010, 06:36:30 PM
That "spoiler" is just hilarious! :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on December 30, 2010, 07:02:52 PM
I would agree only that the first leg is the most spoiled ever; the completeness of that fact is jaw-dropping.

As to the Race as a whole, no I wouldn't say it is the most spoiled ever.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on December 30, 2010, 07:46:59 PM
True, you would have to go with 11 for that...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on December 30, 2010, 07:52:47 PM
Only the boot order for 11 was more spoiled (and RFF said NEVER again after that one!) .... for cast, locations and tasks this season rocks! :werock:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin88 on December 31, 2010, 01:31:41 AM
Quote
Leg 6: Calcutta - Madrid, Spain. Eliminated: Jet & Cord (u-turned by margie & luke)


please tell me this is true!

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on December 31, 2010, 02:42:48 AM
That "spoiler" is just hilarious! :lol3:


:lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
 :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Quote
Leg 6: Calcutta - Madrid, Spain. Eliminated: Jet & Cord (u-turned by margie & luke)


please tell me this is true!




That's can't be possible! If this is true elimination..
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on December 31, 2010, 06:57:20 AM
So is everybody giving up on this season already or what?

I'm still doing some looking around for scraps of information, but I'm finding nothing. It's been a very tough season to me to find anything. Still, you never know when something will pop up. Maybe a long delayed blog about a trip where they stumbled across The Amazing Race or something like that.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Sandra1991 on December 31, 2010, 07:28:44 AM
Quote
Leg 6: Calcutta - Madrid, Spain. Eliminated: Jet & Cord (u-turned by margie & luke)


please tell me this is true!



Please tell me this is a lie! lol
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on December 31, 2010, 08:10:08 AM
Please tell me this is a lie! lol

Please tell me this is a lie too!  Haha.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Snooky on December 31, 2010, 08:49:56 AM
How about it's all lies...  :readtt:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: KevinTheAmazingRaceFAN on December 31, 2010, 11:16:01 AM
Do we know when the cast will be announced OFFICIALLY?? 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NumfarPTB on December 31, 2010, 12:59:19 PM
Do we know when the cast will be announced OFFICIALLY?? 

Possibly on January 12th or a few days before that through a Press Release.
Jan 12th is the date slated for CBS part of the TCA Winter Tour.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TSPKM on January 01, 2011, 02:20:16 PM
this has got to be the least spoiled All-Star season of any show ha. its wierd how the final 3 were racing in the U.S and nobody saw who they were?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: dreytotz on January 02, 2011, 05:43:52 AM
Quote
Leg 6: Calcutta - Madrid, Spain. Eliminated: Jet & Cord (u-turned by margie & luke)


please tell me this is true!



Please tell me this is a lie! lol




I hope that is true but obviously it's not.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DaNutzki on January 02, 2011, 06:41:27 AM
That "spoiler" is just hilarious! :lol3:


:lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
 :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3:
Quote
Leg 6: Calcutta - Madrid, Spain. Eliminated: Jet & Cord (u-turned by margie & luke)


please tell me this is true!




That's can't be possible! If this is true elimination..

This would be a surprise again because of a possible double elimination leg but with a different twist compared from Season 10 and 15 where their was a double elimination leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: StephenWasHere on January 02, 2011, 04:44:39 PM
Hi everyone! Just a few observations and questions. Any answers would be greatly appreciated
I noticed after reading through the threads, we don't seem to know much concrete information past Jamie and Cara's elimination. Allegedly, we've lost some teams along the way i.e. Gallory, Zev/Justin, but does that neccesarily mean that they were eliminated? Also, as for Kisha/Jen and FT/BE being spotted in Switzerland and Rio respectively (sp?), for that matter, are we sure it was real and not decoy? I for one think Kisha/Jen may've been eliminated prior to Switzerland, but were still on the course as decoys seeing as they apparently didn't have a camera crew near nor did they seem active.
So basically, what I'm boiling it down to may be (and please bear with me as I may be thinking out loud)

*We know for sure the first 3 eliminated teams right?
*We've lost track (for now) of Gallory, Zev/Justin, Ron/Chris, Margie/Luke, Cowboys?
*Kisha and Jen were spotted in Switzerland, but may not have actually been racing
*Flight Time and Big Easy were spotted in Rio, but potentially as decoys as well?
*We can ASSUME that the alleged F6 (if I remember correctly) is: Gallory, Goths, Ron/Chris, Globetrotters, Kisha/Jen, Cowboys?
*Above point would mean that 7th/8th would go to Margie/Luke and Zev/Justin (interchangeable positions?)

So is this pretty much what we know? Please correct me if I'm wrong (which I hope to God I am) since I'm only a newbie. Thanks and Happy Spoiling!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Belle Book on January 02, 2011, 06:51:41 PM
Hi everyone! Just a few observations and questions. Any answers would be greatly appreciated
I noticed after reading through the threads, we don't seem to know much concrete information past Jamie and Cara's elimination. Allegedly, we've lost some teams along the way i.e. Gallory, Zev/Justin, but does that neccesarily mean that they were eliminated? Also, as for Kisha/Jen and FT/BE being spotted in Switzerland and Rio respectively (sp?), for that matter, are we sure it was real and not decoy? I for one think Kisha/Jen may've been eliminated prior to Switzerland, but were still on the course as decoys seeing as they apparently didn't have a camera crew near nor did they seem active.
So basically, what I'm boiling it down to may be (and please bear with me as I may be thinking out loud)

*We know for sure the first 3 eliminated teams right?
*We've lost track (for now) of Gallory, Zev/Justin, Ron/Chris, Margie/Luke, Cowboys?
*Kisha and Jen were spotted in Switzerland, but may not have actually been racing
*Flight Time and Big Easy were spotted in Rio, but potentially as decoys as well?
*We can ASSUME that the alleged F6 (if I remember correctly) is: Gallory, Goths, Ron/Chris, Globetrotters, Kisha/Jen, Cowboys?
*Above point would mean that 7th/8th would go to Margie/Luke and Zev/Justin (interchangeable positions?)

So is this pretty much what we know? Please correct me if I'm wrong (which I hope to God I am) since I'm only a newbie. Thanks and Happy Spoiling!

Yeah, it seems like Margie & Luke and Zev & Justin were out before the Final 6, but the alleged F6 list might not be accurate.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DavidJunior on January 03, 2011, 02:21:26 AM
Hi everyone! Just a few observations and questions. Any answers would be greatly appreciated
I noticed after reading through the threads, we don't seem to know much concrete information past Jamie and Cara's elimination. Allegedly, we've lost some teams along the way i.e. Gallory, Zev/Justin, but does that neccesarily mean that they were eliminated? Also, as for Kisha/Jen and FT/BE being spotted in Switzerland and Rio respectively (sp?), for that matter, are we sure it was real and not decoy? I for one think Kisha/Jen may've been eliminated prior to Switzerland, but were still on the course as decoys seeing as they apparently didn't have a camera crew near nor did they seem active.
So basically, what I'm boiling it down to may be (and please bear with me as I may be thinking out loud)

*We know for sure the first 3 eliminated teams right?
*We've lost track (for now) of Gallory, Zev/Justin, Ron/Chris, Margie/Luke, Cowboys?
*Kisha and Jen were spotted in Switzerland, but may not have actually been racing
*Flight Time and Big Easy were spotted in Rio, but potentially as decoys as well?
*We can ASSUME that the alleged F6 (if I remember correctly) is: Gallory, Goths, Ron/Chris, Globetrotters, Kisha/Jen, Cowboys?
*Above point would mean that 7th/8th would go to Margie/Luke and Zev/Justin (interchangeable positions?)

So is this pretty much what we know? Please correct me if I'm wrong (which I hope to God I am) since I'm only a newbie. Thanks and Happy Spoiling!

Kisha and Jen did have a camera crew, IIRC, they just weren't filming them

but that, and the fact that they 'appeared' to not be racing could easily be attributed to the fact that they were seen in Zurich, a TRANSIT city, especially since the leg appears to be in Zermatt

and you don't really need to a.) run to catch a connecting train (unless late) or b.) film a team hopping from train to train

let's not count our chickens before they've hatched
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on January 03, 2011, 11:02:45 AM
TBH, there is no photo evidence that has been released that points to Zermatt and Varanasi.
I would be surprised if Leg 9's pitstop was at Zermatt.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kadilahopper on January 03, 2011, 03:19:43 PM
So as of today, we have no idea who the final three were?  TAR is getting pretty good at hiding this season.  I am sure they spent a little more money to avoid RFF snooping out the news!..   Kudos to the RFF team.  TAR is running scared.  THEY ARE AFRAID......VERY AFRAID!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 03, 2011, 04:45:41 PM
TBH, there is no photo evidence that has been released that points to Zermatt and Varanasi.
I would be surprised if Leg 9's pitstop was at Zermatt.

I know, not that I disbelieve it, but I would like to see the reasoning for those two locations.

The odd part is that the posts where they were "revealed" don't even say right out that they were there.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 03, 2011, 09:20:12 PM
You will just have to take it on faith...those locations are correct to the best of my knowledge. (http://planetsmilies.net/angel-smiley-5097.gif)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: RichInSydney on January 04, 2011, 04:40:33 PM
Sorry to go back in time and return to the Oz leg, but I speculate that the Mayor of Broken Hill, Wincen Cuy, was there to greet the teams with Phil at the pit stop at the Junction Mine. (source: http://www.bdtruth.com.au/index.php?news&article=1271)

I also posted this in the Media thred.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin88 on January 04, 2011, 06:30:02 PM
Over at Sucks, they are saying the final three is Gary/Mallory, Zev/Justin and i think the cowboys... is it true?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Belle Book on January 04, 2011, 07:02:57 PM
Over at Sucks, they are saying the final three is Gary/Mallory, Zev/Justin and i think the cowboys... is it true?

Well the alleged F6 list said that Gary & Mallory and the cowboys made the Final 6, so I think that at least part of it is true.  But Zev & Justin aren't in the alleged F6 list, so I don't know if the whole thing is true or not.  However, I'm going to go ahead and say that Gary & Mallory and possibly the cowboys made the Final 3.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 04, 2011, 07:22:38 PM
The "on (insert random internet board) they have already predicted the winner could it be true???" question is my favorite.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 04, 2011, 07:52:54 PM
Sorry to go back in time and return to the Oz leg, but I speculate that the Mayor of Broken Hill, Wincen Cuy, was there to greet the teams with Phil at the pit stop at the Junction Mine. (source: http://www.bdtruth.com.au/index.php?news&article=1271)

I also posted this in the Media thred.


Good job!! :jumpy:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NumfarPTB on January 10, 2011, 01:56:02 PM
Survivor's next cycle cast was just officially announced, so I'd expect TAR's  cast will also be officially announced within the next few hours or maybe tomorrow.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 10, 2011, 02:01:08 PM
Survivor's next cycle cast was just officially announced, so I'd expect TAR's  cast will also be officially announced within the next few hours or maybe tomorrow.

CBS is making a big deal out of the Survivor reveal, it's on the homepage of cbs.com. They'll probably wait a couple of days to let that die down.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 10, 2011, 03:13:57 PM
It is never usually that close.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 10, 2011, 05:07:17 PM
It is never usually that close.

Are you referring to what I said about a couple of days or what he said about a couple of hours?

I have been wondering how close they usually are.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 10, 2011, 05:15:58 PM
Both. I think it usually about 2 weeks later, someone could check the dates from the last couple of seasons if we want to be exact.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 10, 2011, 07:29:07 PM
Both. I think it usually about 2 weeks later, someone could check the dates from the last couple of seasons if we want to be exact.

It looks like last year Survivor revealed on August 9 and TAR revealed on the 31st. That's three weeks between the two.

They could practically do the same thing this year since Survivor came out yesterday (the ninth) and wait on TAR until the end of the month.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jerseydude on January 10, 2011, 08:41:05 PM
Both. I think it usually about 2 weeks later, someone could check the dates from the last couple of seasons if we want to be exact.

It looks like last year Survivor revealed on August 9 and TAR revealed on the 31st. That's three weeks between the two.

They could practically do the same thing this year since Survivor came out yesterday (the ninth) and wait on TAR until the end of the month.

If you want to compare, maybe compare the same airing date like the February ones rather than the Fall ones.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on January 10, 2011, 08:57:16 PM
Don't forget next weekend is a three-day holiday weekend in the U.S., because of the Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday on Monday. Tuesday of next week would be the earliest to expect anything, not necessarily a guarantee than we'd see an official cast announcement that soon. But it is about a month before the premiere, which is about right where TAR is concerned.  
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 10, 2011, 10:43:28 PM
Both. I think it usually about 2 weeks later, someone could check the dates from the last couple of seasons if we want to be exact.

I spoke too soon. ;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gsrqh on January 10, 2011, 10:48:46 PM
Just saw Kynt posted on facebook:

"Sealed lips are getting ready to open.......... xoxo"

Are they announcing the cast soon???

 :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on January 10, 2011, 11:36:34 PM
The winter Television Critics Association tour in L.A. continues through the 15th of January, which is Saturday. That could also indicate a possible announcement date. It was used for Survivor 20's cast announcement last year, IIRC.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on January 11, 2011, 04:05:48 AM
Just saw Kynt posted on facebook:

"Sealed lips are getting ready to open.......... xoxo"

Are they announcing the cast soon???

 :yess:

It really seems like it.  :hearts: But, we'll wait.  :<3
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 11, 2011, 02:10:41 PM
Luke just posted this on FB:

I'll be able to break the silence pretty soon!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 11, 2011, 02:37:08 PM
Cast release will be soon. Not that we need it or anything. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 11, 2011, 02:39:00 PM
Cast release will be soon. Not that we need it or anything. :funny:

Nobody else has a Coutzy like we do!
 :werock:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 11, 2011, 02:45:35 PM
Not to mention we released the full cast list before the teams ever left LAX. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 11, 2011, 02:58:38 PM
 :lol: Thanks to you, peachy  :<3

Can't wait for the cast  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 11, 2011, 03:32:03 PM
Not to mention we released the full cast list before the teams ever left LAX. :tup:

True, but people would still be arguing about and second guessing that if not for all the great photo and eyewitness documentation.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: JETandCORDfan on January 11, 2011, 05:42:16 PM
From what I have heard our top 3 are confirmed....

1. Jet and Cord  :yess:

2. Zev and Justin

3. Gary and Mallory 
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: StephenWasHere on January 11, 2011, 06:01:38 PM
From what I have heard our top 3 are confirmed....

1. Jet and Cord  :yess:

2. Zev and Justin

3. Gary and Mallory 

Please tell me this is true!!! I'd actually die from so much happiness....though I'd like Zev/Justin 1st and Gallory 2nd, this is actually my perfect F3... PLEASE let this be true *cries*
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: phant0m on January 11, 2011, 06:05:16 PM
From what I have heard our top 3 are confirmed....

1. Jet and Cord  :yess:

2. Zev and Justin

3. Gary and Mallory 

god i hope this isnt true :/
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on January 11, 2011, 06:33:03 PM
If that is true, then Jet & Cord are the first ever team, and the third person ever to make the Final 3 twice.

Though, I'd take it with a pinch of salt, since Jet & Cord fans would like their cowboys to be 1st, if you know what I mean.  ;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin88 on January 11, 2011, 06:45:21 PM
If that is true, then Jet & Cord are the first ever team, and the third person ever to make the Final 3 twice.

Though, I'd take it with a pinch of salt, since Jet & Cord fans would like their cowboys to be 1st, if you know what I mean.  ;)

If it is from sucks, then I think it is true, they hate cowboys with real venom over there...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 11, 2011, 06:47:56 PM
From what I have heard our top 3 are confirmed....

1. Jet and Cord  :yess:

2. Zev and Justin

3. Gary and Mallory 

Welcome to RFF, JETandCORDfan! No top three has been confirmed here...where did you here of this info?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Belle Book on January 11, 2011, 08:03:47 PM
From what I have heard our top 3 are confirmed....

1. Jet and Cord  :yess:

2. Zev and Justin

3. Gary and Mallory 

Part of me hopes that's true, but I want Ron & Christina there instead of one of the three teams you mentioned.  Still, if Zev & Justin are in there, I'll be happy -- I have Asperger's Syndrome and I rooted for them in their season because Zev has AS.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: JETandCORDfan on January 11, 2011, 08:46:45 PM
From what I have heard our top 3 are confirmed....

1. Jet and Cord  :yess:

2. Zev and Justin

3. Gary and Mallory 

Welcome to RFF, JETandCORDfan! No top three has been confirmed here...where did you here of this info?

I did indeed hear this info from sucks.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Zvarri on January 11, 2011, 09:45:58 PM
From what I have heard our top 3 are confirmed....

1. Jet and Cord  :yess:

2. Zev and Justin

3. Gary and Mallory 

god i hope this isnt true :/

Same here. I'd slit my wrists if they won. I don't believe this anyway.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 11, 2011, 10:11:22 PM
I don't believe this anyway.

I always knew you were smart. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: StephenWasHere on January 12, 2011, 06:19:49 AM
I have a feeling though that that's not the F3. I'm not sure why, just being skeptical. I'd like a Zev/Justin and Gallory for sure F3, but what it soujnds like, in seemingly every F3 prediction, we have Gallory. So I'm farily sure that Gallory IS in F3. As for the alleged Cowboys and Zev/Justin, I've heard no one mention the Cowboys in F3 so I don't know how accurate that is. I've also heard potential Zev/Justin F3, but again, I'm not sure how accurate that is (though I really hope it is). So the most I've heard as a F3 group was:

Gallory
Zev/Justin
Globetrotters or Margie/Luke
(I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume this is the F4? :O) That'd be a good F4 though :D....though I'm a newbie so I could very well be wrong...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: phant0m on January 12, 2011, 07:53:13 AM
I have a feeling though that that's not the F3. I'm not sure why, just being skeptical. I'd like a Zev/Justin and Gallory for sure F3, but what it soujnds like, in seemingly every F3 prediction, we have Gallory. So I'm farily sure that Gallory IS in F3. As for the alleged Cowboys and Zev/Justin, I've heard no one mention the Cowboys in F3 so I don't know how accurate that is. I've also heard potential Zev/Justin F3, but again, I'm not sure how accurate that is (though I really hope it is). So the most I've heard as a F3 group was:

Gallory
Zev/Justin
Globetrotters or Margie/Luke
(I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume this is the F4? :O) That'd be a good F4 though :D....though I'm a newbie so I could very well be wrong...

that would be a good F4 indeed... just as long the cowboys dont win :/ some people were also talking about a possibility of a F2 finale
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 12, 2011, 08:43:46 AM
From what I have heard our top 3 are confirmed....

1. Jet and Cord  :yess:

2. Zev and Justin

3. Gary and Mallory 

Welcome to RFF, JETandCORDfan! No top three has been confirmed here...where did you here of this info?

I did indeed hear this info from sucks.

Survivor Sucks is not RFF when it comes to spoilers!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DavidJunior on January 12, 2011, 10:01:13 AM
Guys, so far we (the general public of this site), only have up to the Final 8

with only the Globetrotters and Kisha/Jen confirmed to be in the Final 5/6.

No Final 3, no nothing.

And until I see some CONCRETE evidence from those people over at sucks, I'm going to be VERY skeptical about the "I heard Team A, Team B, and Team C are in the Final 3!!!1!" garbage

otherwise, it's just pure speculation being proclaimed as fact

and it would appear that either Margie/Luke or Zev/Justin were the 8th place team, so I really don't think they're both in the Final 4
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 12, 2011, 10:08:53 AM
Guys, so far we (the general public of this site), only have up to the Final 8

with only the Globetrotters and Kisha/Jen confirmed to be in the Final 5/6.

No Final 3, no nothing.

And until I see some CONCRETE evidence from those people over at sucks, I'm going to be VERY skeptical about the "I heard Team A, Team B, and Team C are in the Final 3!!!1!" garbage

otherwise, it's just pure speculation being proclaimed as fact

and it would appear that either Margie/Luke or Zev/Justin were the 8th place team, so I really don't think they're both in the Final 4

Well said!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Reilly Queens on January 12, 2011, 04:52:34 PM
Guys, so far we (the general public of this site), only have up to the Final 8

with only the Globetrotters and Kisha/Jen confirmed to be in the Final 5/6.

No Final 3, no nothing.

And until I see some CONCRETE evidence from those people over at sucks, I'm going to be VERY skeptical about the "I heard Team A, Team B, and Team C are in the Final 3!!!1!" garbage

otherwise, it's just pure speculation being proclaimed as fact

and it would appear that either Margie/Luke or Zev/Justin were the 8th place team, so I really don't think they're both in the Final 4

I second that!

We really only know 3 teams for sure that are eliminated and maybe 2 in F6.

It could be ANYBODY.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on January 12, 2011, 10:59:44 PM
I, on the other hand.. felt that Margie and Luke did not make the F6 as decoy teams at least.

If i'm right, it will really suck.. i'm kinda rooting for Margie and Luke!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Reilly Queens on January 12, 2011, 11:19:03 PM
I, on the other hand.. felt that Margie and Luke did not make the F6 as decoy teams at least.

If i'm right, it will really suck.. i'm kinda rooting for Margie and Luke!!

yeah I'm secretly rooting for Gary/Mallory, and Flight Time/Big Easy!!

*prays they make it to  F3*
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: CrazyMonkey on January 12, 2011, 11:23:46 PM
I would like the F3 to be:

1. Margie and Luke
2. Gary and Mallory
3. Zev and Justin

I do not like the cowboys and I would love for them to get the boot!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kiki on January 13, 2011, 07:53:03 AM
I would like the F3 to be:

1. Margie and Luke
2. Gary and Mallory
3. Zev and Justin

I do not like the cowboys and I would love for them to get the boot!

That would be my favourite F3 too!!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Belle Book on January 13, 2011, 09:59:05 AM
I would like the F3 to be:

1. Margie and Luke
2. Gary and Mallory
3. Zev and Justin

I do not like the cowboys and I would love for them to get the boot!

I would like the Final 3 to be:

1.  Ron & Christina,
2.  Zev & Justin &
3.  Gary & Mallory.

I can accept the Cowboys being in the Final 4, however.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2011, 10:18:34 AM
Let's try to keep this to real speculation and not wish lists please? :kuss:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on January 13, 2011, 01:00:58 PM
Let's try to keep this to real speculation and not wish lists please? :kuss:

GP, I think the zoo needs some fresh raw meat to chew on.  :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 13, 2011, 01:24:03 PM
GP, I think the zoo needs some fresh raw meat to chew on.  :lol3:

I think that's exactly the problem! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 13, 2011, 01:37:02 PM
Heee...cast reveal soon! :kuss:

How about...didn't teams once use a "locater" thingy in the snow?? I think it very likely we will see something similiar in the Zermatt leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on January 13, 2011, 02:02:07 PM
I think it was in TAR 11 in Argentina........on the Martial Glacier.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on January 13, 2011, 02:58:49 PM
If the world had not gone in to "recession" at the end of 07/start of 08, there is a good chance I would have been living in a Rio surburb and could have done some really good spoiling. Be that as it may, the strange flight arrangements from Rio to Miami really had me stumped. So I just decided to do the holidays and stop thinking about it for a month.

Normally, American has one direct flight from Rio to Miami, AA904. I dont know how many times I have flown on that flight in the last 12 years....at least 2 times a year. From Dec 1 till about March 1...American adds a second flight from Rio to Miami, AA990. I thought that with the two flights, it would be plenty for TAR to get all the people back to Miami. But AA990 does not fly on Sundays. But both flights arrive in Miami BEFORE sunrise. They are almost always earlier than scheduled time. 904@ 430 am and 990@ 515 am.

American has 3 nightly flights from Sao Paulo to Miami. They leave Sao Paulo later then the flights from Rio to Miami and 2 of them, AA998 @ 630 am and AA930@ 730 am arrive when there is light in the sky. I think this is important for filming of a TV show outdoors. On Dec 13, twilight in Miami was at 630 am and sunrise was at 658 am. It would make sense to me to make the short jog over to Sao Paulo Guarulhos Airport to let the teams arrive in conditions good for filming a TV production., especially the finale. So I would think that BVM had the teams on AA930. He could have put lots of the crew on AA998 arriving earlier, so they could clear customs and be ready to film or they could all have been on the last flight. It seems that possibly that "pilot illness" for AA998 really messed up Americans schedule for that night. How that affected TAR, well I guess we will find out at TARcon in May if anyone asks.

Getting from Rio to SP is pretty simple. There are hourly flights from the downtown Rio airport, Santos Dumont(SDU) to Guarulhos and flights about every 15 mintues from Galeao-Jobim (GIG) to Guarulhos. The flights are all about an hour in length.

Brazil has really good long distance bus service, Production could have chartered one or two of these to get people from Rio to Guarulhos. They have stewardesses and movies on them. The trip is about 4.3 hours from Rio to Guarulhos.

So the fact that AA930 was delayed for about 2 hours just gave production more/better light for filming in my opinion.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Slowhatch on January 13, 2011, 05:15:24 PM
Quote
I think it was in TAR 11 in Argentina........on the Martial Glacier.
  :tup: They probably pulled that out of the discard bin; the teams of TAR4 (ep 1) had a Search/Rescue Detour, but everybody chose the zipline.
(My guess? production will jump at the chance to use St. Bernards--with a clue instead of brandy)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: KevinTheAmazingRaceFAN on January 15, 2011, 01:00:22 PM
Heee...cast reveal soon! :kuss:

How about...didn't teams once use a "locater" thingy in the snow?? I think it very likely we will see something similiar in the Zermatt leg.

When? Luke posted on fb yesterday : "Few Days...! A cans of worms will be opened pretty soon... ;-)" ... few days? Ugh....when? when? why CBS can't just tell us when? i do not get it. They can at least tell us that for example cast will be revealed on monday or something
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 15, 2011, 01:17:33 PM
The webmonkeys don't normally work weekends...and Monday is a holiday...so....??   :waves:


This week was all about Survivor...so next week should be all about US!! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DaNutzki on January 17, 2011, 09:46:37 PM
Let's try to keep this to real speculation and not wish lists please? :kuss:

Yup!   :tup:  Some spoilers can also be bluffs just as what i observe in other forums that Nat and Kat will not win the race.  But i don't depend it too much unless if i have a good read on it and making the correct call.  LOL!   :yess:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gsrqh on January 18, 2011, 10:27:23 PM
Kynt posted on Facebook:

READY SET GO ------ Tomorrow an adventure begins.   Are you coming with me? *^_^*

Announcing the cast tomorrow?!?!?!? Not that we need it  :neener:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on January 18, 2011, 10:53:44 PM
I wouldn't mind it, always feels so official, cant wait!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Chateau d If on January 19, 2011, 01:19:38 AM
Only 6 hours and 41 minutes to go  :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 19, 2011, 01:28:47 AM
Or right now if you want to be accurate! :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: amazingracer24 on January 19, 2011, 02:06:23 AM
Kynt's Facebook

Prepare for an adventure like NO OTHER......Join the Page & let's revolt!
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kent-and-Vyxsin/170195416358830
Kent and Vyxsin
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on January 19, 2011, 03:34:57 AM
I did some searching on the moped task in Liechtenstein and found that the Liechtenstein Tourism Office has a web page about using mopeds and bikes to explore Liechtenstein at http://www.tourismus.li/en/navpage-SummerLI-BikeLI-342002.html (http://www.tourismus.li/en/navpage-SummerLI-BikeLI-342002.html). It suggests that the mopeds may actually be bikes with electric battery powered motors to assist on hills. The rental plan appears well organized. They have about a dozen stations around the country where you can get fresh batteries if the ones you are using are getting low. The page also has a slide show at the bottom where you can get a better look at the bikes and the pretty countryside of Liechtenstein. I'd try and upload one, but it's a flash based page, so I can't grab them. Actually, I can't even get them to enlarge so I can look closer at them.

Liechtenstein looks to be about 30 km from north to south (about 20 miles), so it sounds like they could travel north to south (or south to north) and measure the country in about 60 to 90 minutes. If they go east to west, the country is only about 7 or 8 km wide (about 5 miles), so that would take 15 or 20 minutes. Of course, they will really be measuring the length of the road, not the size of the country unless the road is perfectly straight.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NumfarPTB on January 19, 2011, 08:40:53 AM
And it's finally official, what we've known for several weeks already. CBS announcement for the cast of TAR 18:
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/video/?pid=5BqbNAnl0r0smYJA6dAAVcvIMF5vsD85&vs=homepage&play=true

Also HitFix.com has a nice gallery with the new cast shots:
http://www.hitfix.com/galleries/meet-the-amazing-race-unfinished-business-cast#1
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on January 19, 2011, 01:02:27 PM
With a starting line task, I'm leaning towards a 2-hour premiere, or else it could be seriously rushed.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: colav10 on January 19, 2011, 02:27:44 PM
Anyone else notice that the official website says it will air at 10 PM instead of  the usual 8 PM? Anyone know why?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mjriches2005 on January 20, 2011, 01:33:41 AM
Anyone else notice that the official website says it will air at 10 PM instead of  the usual 8 PM? Anyone know why?

Maybe its in Central Time and it will air at 10pm due to a televised event in the time zone areas at selected markets.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NumfarPTB on January 20, 2011, 02:21:38 AM
Really weird, only noticed after Caelestor pointed it, (about the 10/9 thing).
Which is weird, The Futon Critic reprinted the PRess Release (http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2011/01/19/cbs-announces-the-cast-for-the-amazing-race-unfinished-business-premiering-sunday-feb-20-771405/20110119cbs01/) with the teams announcement, and the Release still states it'll air on 8/9 ET/PT.

About airing length, they might go to the slightly longer episode approach they did with the TAR17 premiere, not quite a 2 hour premiere, but still longer. I'm getting the feeling the premiere will end at the TBC Pit Stop (with the arrival of the 1st few teams, with cowboys trailing behind as part of the cliffhanger), so we won't see a team getting eliminated until the following week. As this is the speculation thread, I think it's fine to speculate that, right?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 20, 2011, 03:46:01 AM
Everything I see shows 8...can you do a screencap of the 10 stuff?

And as per the Timeline, Broken Hill is a separate episode.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 20, 2011, 07:01:46 AM
I'm just wondering why the CBS Site has called Kynt & Vyxsin as Kent & Vyxsin? :spell

Can someone please explain, because I am a little confused.  :idgit Thanks! :ty3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on January 20, 2011, 07:03:53 AM
I'm just wondering why the CBS Site has called Kynt & Vyxsin as Kent & Vyxsin? :spell

Can someone please explain, because I am a little confused.  :idgit Thanks! :ty3:

Kent is his real name, always has been. He recently started calling himself Kent after his father died.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 20, 2011, 07:14:06 AM
I'm just wondering why the CBS Site has called Kynt & Vyxsin as Kent & Vyxsin? :spell

Can someone please explain, because I am a little confused.  :idgit Thanks! :ty3:

Kent is his real name, always has been. He recently started calling himself Kent after his father died.

Oh, OK. Thanks for the info. That's really interesting!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NumfarPTB on January 20, 2011, 10:17:58 AM
Here it is a screenshot of the CBS AMazing Race website saying that it'll premiere at 10/9 C

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/johnypjh/TAR18-9_10_screenshot.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on January 20, 2011, 10:21:38 AM
 Peach.......the Amazing Race homepage at CBS.com says the same thing for me.......10/9c
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 20, 2011, 10:25:36 AM
Same here. I'm not sure what they are doing ??? is there some kind of award or other live show that night?


Everything I see shows 8...can you do a screencap of the 10 stuff?

And as per the Timeline, Broken Hill is a separate episode.

Go here: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/

Or look at Numfar's cap, it's the same.

Not sure why the press release says 8PM.
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23390.msg585567.html#msg585567
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on January 20, 2011, 12:23:11 PM
The web monkeys have been known to goof things up in the past.

We need to see if there's any other schedule information about CBS's schedule for that night.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on January 20, 2011, 12:27:01 PM
This probably belongs in the TAR Disaster Curse thread, but since I think that is a non spoiler thread, I'll post it here. I was doing some more investigating about the wind farm in Palm Springs and found there was flash flooding at the wind farm a few days before Christmas or a month or so after TAR was there. Roads were washed out and the area was a wet and muddy mess in the pictures I saw. The photographer has reserved some rights to the photos. I think it'll be OK to post them here, but I've passed the link along to Peach for her decision.

Disaster is being used tongue in cheek here. It is unfortunate, but in a desert canyon setting like that at the base of the mountains, flooding like that probably happens every few years or so.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on January 20, 2011, 12:45:45 PM
I've checked the TAR show page at The Futon Critic, and they do not show any time change for the new season. If there is a change coming, they'd probably be the first to know.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 20, 2011, 12:55:09 PM
I've checked the TAR show page at The Futon Critic, and they do not show any time change for the new season. If there is a change coming, they'd probably be the first to know.

I know, they list their source as the CBS press release which does show the 8PM time. It's hard to know what to think when the official release and the official website conflict.

I for one would be surprised to see a premiere of a popular show be pushed back to 10PM.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 20, 2011, 12:56:52 PM
I'm just wondering why the CBS Site has called Kynt & Vyxsin as Kent & Vyxsin?

Can someone please explain, because I am a little confused.  :idgit Thanks! :ty3:

I also noticed that Kisha was credited as LaKisha. I don't recall her ever being called that before.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on January 20, 2011, 01:03:37 PM
Perhaps the flooding was more noteworthy than I said earlier. Here are some excerpts from the Palm Springs Desert Sun newspaper on Dec. 22, 2010:

The four-day storm that pounded the Coachella Valley with rain is over, a meteorologist said tonight.

"It looks like most of the rain is starting to taper off and come to an end," AccuWeather.com meteorologist John Dlugoenski told The Desert Sun just after 7 p.m.

Among the other latest details compiled by Desert Sun reporters:

* The 2.25 inches of rain that fell today smashed a record that had stood for 65 years for most rain on Dec. 22.

* The light showers that are still lingering tonight should break into mostly sunny skies for Thursday and Friday.

* Many major roads remain closed across the Coachella Valley, though the reports of crashes and water rescues have quieted down.

During the four day storm that began Sunday, the Palm Springs airport recorded 3.61 inches of rain throughout the last five days.

That's more than five times what Palm Springs normally sees for the entire month.

The majority of that rain -- 2.07 inches, or about 62 percent -- fell since midnight today.

That's enough set a new record for the day, surpassing the 1.9 inches of rain that fell in Palm Springs on Dec. 22, 1945, according to the National Weather Service.

"Let's put this into perspective. It's a drop in the bucket for what some other people have had -- but we've had considerable amounts of rain," Clark said.

Until the clouds broke for drier skies, emergency responders had spent their morning and early afternoon swamped with calls of flooded roads, flooded homes and the need for water rescues.

The Riverside County Fire Department has responded to nearly 1,000 incidents in the last 48 hours, a spokeswoman said early this afternoon.

Countywide, that includes more than 300 car crashes, more than 125 flooding calls, 47 water rescues and 13 power lines down.

Roads close, travel becomes difficult

As more rain has fallen, it's become increasingly hard to get around the Coachella Valley and get out of town.

At the Whitewater Wash, Palm Springs has blocked off Gene Autry Trail, Indian Canyon Drive and Vista Chino. Cathedral City closed Cathedral Canyon Drive and La Quinta has closed Adams Street.

Indio also has shuttered Avenue 44 at the Whitewater Wash because of flood damage, and warned Tuesday it could be closed until mid-January.

"We know there's been some damage, (but) the floodwaters are still there and rising," said Adrienne Dunfee, principal civil engineer for the city. "We don't know what the full damage is going to be."

Ground-level wash crossings have been closed for days, and flooding also closed other streets around the Coachella Valley.

Flooding along Indian Canyon Drive and on Palm Springs Station Road cut off access to the city's Amtrak train and Greyhound bus station Wednesday morning, according to Palm Springs police.

The storms prompted Riverside County leaders to declare a local emergency Tuesday, one of six in the state later also proclaimed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. That is a first step toward possibly receiving state funding for the response to the storm.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 20, 2011, 02:31:28 PM
These articles say the Race is airing at the usual time:
http://www.thedeadbolt.com/news/109837/the_amazing_race_18_team_photos_news.php (http://www.thedeadbolt.com/news/109837/the_amazing_race_18_team_photos_news.php)
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20458783,00.html
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2011/01/the-amazing-race-11-teams-return-which-is-your-favorite.html
http://robotceleb.com/news/211519-01192011-event-robot-american-idol-coachella-2011-amazing-race-18.html
I don't know how reliable this information is, though.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on January 20, 2011, 02:46:09 PM
I just think the CBS webmonkeys got it wrong.....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: north09 on January 20, 2011, 03:17:00 PM
I'm just wondering why the CBS Site has called Kynt & Vyxsin as Kent & Vyxsin?

Can someone please explain, because I am a little confused.  :idgit Thanks! :ty3:

I also noticed that Kisha was credited as LaKisha. I don't recall her ever being called that before.

She wasn't on the show at the time, but on their website she was still credited as LaKisha.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on January 20, 2011, 03:30:36 PM
I really thought she was LaKisha last time. Since her sister calls her Kisha.......everyone else changed it too. I do remember LaKisha.....it is not new to me, fwiw.
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Post by: Prophet on January 20, 2011, 03:33:14 PM
I really thought she was LaKisha last time. Since her sister calls her Kisha.......everyone else changed it too. I do remember LaKisha.....it is not new to me, fwiw.

And what's with FTBE suddenly calling themselves Herb and Nate?
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Post by: DrRox on January 20, 2011, 03:41:18 PM
She was Lakisha last time........

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,18268.0.html

They were Herb and Nate last time too.

http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,20708.0.html

Flight Time and Big Easy are there Globetrotter nick/stage names.
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Post by: Kacper on January 20, 2011, 03:49:20 PM
Uumm i went on the website and now (for me) it says that it premieres 9/8C  :duno: :duno: :duno:
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 20, 2011, 04:34:33 PM
I am so glad they dumped the FTBE...they have names. :)
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Post by: Reilly Queens on January 20, 2011, 04:38:42 PM
I am so glad they dumped the FTBE...they have names. :)

personally I think it was they couldn't fit their FTBE names under their tiny picture.  :lol:

and CBS on my computer says 9/8c too
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Post by: DrRox on January 20, 2011, 04:48:54 PM
I will have to go back and look, but I think it was Phil that called them FTBE at the start and it just stuck. I know/think for about the first 3 episodes, I called her LaKisha.....but I got tired of typing all that and since her sister called her "Kisha", I started doing that too.
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Post by: AmazingRace on January 20, 2011, 04:56:13 PM
I think they did that for convenience.

Like instead of Natalie & Kathy, they called them Nat & Kat.  :<3
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Post by: Prophet on January 20, 2011, 04:57:43 PM
Sure enough.
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Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 20, 2011, 06:05:22 PM
I will have to go back and look, but I think it was Phil that called them FTBE at the start and it just stuck. I know/think for about the first 3 episodes, I called her LaKisha.....but I got tired of typing all that and since her sister called her "Kisha", I started doing that too.
I think Phil called them FT & BE at the first Pit Stop, then he called them Herb & Nate at the second Pit Stop, before returning to FT & BE for all subsequent Pit Stops.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Chateau d If on January 20, 2011, 06:32:33 PM
Did anybody notice the clue(S) in Phil's back pocket?  I guess he gives it to each team after they solve the paper airplane challenge.
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Post by: AmazingRace on January 20, 2011, 06:35:06 PM
Did anybody notice the clue(S) in Phil's back pocket?  I guess he gives it to each team after they solve the paper airplane challenge.

Yup! I think the teams will run up to Phil, and if they have the correct answer, he will give it to them. Just like the airplane tickets Phil gave out at TAR 15.
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Post by: Snooky on January 20, 2011, 06:36:49 PM
LOL, at first I thought that wind farm was the one in Tehachapi that I always drive by.
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Post by: redskevin88 on January 20, 2011, 07:39:23 PM
I really thought she was LaKisha last time. Since her sister calls her Kisha.......everyone else changed it too. I do remember LaKisha.....it is not new to me, fwiw.

And what's with FTBE suddenly calling themselves Herb and Nate?

In the first promos if i remember, Flight Time & Big Easy's promo was listed as Herbert/Nathaniel...
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Post by: ZBC Company on January 20, 2011, 07:41:22 PM
wiki paper planes
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Post by: LoveRocked on January 20, 2011, 08:16:35 PM
Did anybody notice the clue(S) in Phil's back pocket?  I guess he gives it to each team after they solve the paper airplane challenge.

Yes, I see.. <bold>The new season of the seven-time Emmy-winning reality series kicks off in Palm Springs, Calif., where the teams must sort through hundreds of paper airplanes to find one of a handful that say "Queensland and Northern Territory Aerial Services," figure out it's the little-used full name for the acronym Qantas Airways, and board one of two flights to Sydney.</bold> from USA Today "11 Amazing Race Return"
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Post by: apskip on January 20, 2011, 08:46:31 PM
I have an issue with the assumption that all QANTAS flights from Los Angeles go to Sydney. The QANTAS route map shows nonstop flights from LA to Brisbane and to Melbourne. However, when I test those destinations in a QANTAS reservations system over a limited range of dates, I get all flights to Brisbane and Melbourne being connections through Sydney
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Post by: nuguseyo on January 20, 2011, 09:27:00 PM
another pic from starting line
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Post by: walkingpneumonia on January 21, 2011, 08:57:19 AM
Did anybody notice the clue(S) in Phil's back pocket?  I guess he gives it to each team after they solve the paper airplane challenge.
And note that Phil's back is to the wind. I'm guessing that when he gives the start signal, somewhere behind him there is a mechanism to release the paper airplanes and have them blown around by the wind and the teams chase after them. Could be quite comical.
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Post by: walkingpneumonia on January 21, 2011, 09:27:54 AM
Looks like its someone's first time shooting HD.
(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_ldM4aoSAKv8/TTmk-czWH2I/AAAAAAAAACA/qeANtU3ME5A/s800/HDError.jpg)

On a SD camera (4:3) the hand with the camera wouldn't have shown up. Its a typical issue with framing that comes up when you're new to shooting in 16:9.
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 21, 2011, 09:38:57 AM
LOVE that!! :lol:

Also...why are they running to their right, Phil's left?
We usually see teams swarming past and around Phil.
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Post by: Chateau d If on January 21, 2011, 09:45:27 AM
They probably have all the backpacks lined up in the dirt along 16th ave.   :lol:
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 21, 2011, 10:08:54 AM
Somebody get the fingerprints off that hand for me please?


 :funny: :funny: :funny:
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Post by: JETandCORDfan on January 21, 2011, 10:26:53 AM
Well, as I am new here I am not sure what they have done anything before season 15, so I do remember a Starting line task with the license plates.

But I do not think they will eliminate anyone at the Start Line.

 Either way, there are a lot of windmills there.
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 21, 2011, 10:28:59 AM
No start line elim of course based on spoilers! :yess:
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Post by: Plaidmoon on January 21, 2011, 11:32:46 AM
No start line elim of course based on spoilers! :yess:

I see 11 teams in the starting line photos and there were 11 teams in Sydney, so a starting line elimination seems very unlikely. I suppose they could have staged a bunch of photos with one or more teams missing to hide the possibility of an elimination, but that would seem to be an enormous amount of trouble for a slight benefit.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: JETandCORDfan on January 21, 2011, 11:38:10 AM
Well wasn't Jet and Cord behind everybody by a lot in Australia? Because I can see them holding a team 30 minutes when they land or something. Though it is unlikely because why would they hold a  team when their is a T.B.C leg.

Well who knows......

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Post by: georgiapeach on January 21, 2011, 11:44:32 AM

Well who knows......



We know. :lol:
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Post by: theschnauzers on January 21, 2011, 03:15:42 PM
I wasn't surprised about Jet and Cord in Sydney, inasmuch as they had the same problem, more or less, on their first leg in TAR 16.

They do know how to make up time fast, though.
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Post by: Prophet on January 21, 2011, 07:28:19 PM
I wasn't surprised about Jet and Cord in Sydney, inasmuch as they had the same problem, more or less, on their first leg in TAR 16.

They do know how to make up time fast, though.

The Cowboys always get lost in transit and make up for lost time at the task by speeding through it.
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Post by: Coutzy on January 21, 2011, 07:30:43 PM
I have an issue with the assumption that all QANTAS flights from Los Angeles go to Sydney. The QANTAS route map shows nonstop flights from LA to Brisbane and to Melbourne. However, when I test those destinations in a QANTAS reservations system over a limited range of dates, I get all flights to Brisbane and Melbourne being connections through Sydney

I might be able to shed some light on that. In today/yesterdays flights from Melbourne to the USA, I had to connect to LAX with a plane change in Sydney, depsite the same flight number for both the Melb-Syd and Syd-LAX

The same thing is also happening on my return trip. I suspect that all flights from the USA to Australia go through either New Zealand (esp. Air NZ) or Sydney. Sydney is also the largest airport of the three majors on the eastern seaboard, which is probably a key factor.
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Post by: DrRox on January 21, 2011, 07:44:23 PM
Qantas made a big announcement here in Dallas last week. Starting in May, they are dropping the route to San Francisco and coming to DFW instead Non-stop from Sydney. Using 747s.
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Post by: redskevin88 on January 21, 2011, 11:16:48 PM
Well wasn't Jet and Cord behind everybody by a lot in Australia? Because I can see them holding a team 30 minutes when they land or something. Though it is unlikely because why would they hold a  team when their is a T.B.C leg.

Well who knows......



Maybe they confused Australian and Austrian money.... and couldn't pay their taxi this time...
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Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 22, 2011, 07:29:55 AM
Well wasn't Jet and Cord behind everybody by a lot in Australia? Because I can see them holding a team 30 minutes when they land or something. Though it is unlikely because why would they hold a  team when their is a T.B.C leg.

Well who knows......



Maybe they confused Australian and Austrian money.... and couldn't pay their taxi this time...

 :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: :lol3: I actually think this is likely. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: JETandCORDfan on January 22, 2011, 10:17:27 AM
I was thinking maybe like if you are the last team to catch a paper plane you may have to do an extra task somewhere in the leg. But Jet and Cord did a Speed Bump in Leg 8 of TAR 16 and they passed everyone.

So I am guessing in the 1st part of TBC leg they were last after doing the speed bump  ( in speculation ) and in the 2nd part of the TBC leg they made up time to finish in the top 5 somewhere.

This is just a guess that is probobly not right.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 22, 2011, 03:01:00 PM
CBS.com still says that the premier will air at nine EST.
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 22, 2011, 03:56:48 PM
Sunday, Feb. 20 1:00 – 3:00 p.m. Big Ten Wildcard
Ohio State at Purdue 

Is it a big sports day? If they expect sports will run over, maybe they are planning a late start...but I :duno:
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Post by: theschnauzers on January 22, 2011, 04:32:27 PM
Here's what The Futon Critic currently has in its listings for Sunday, February 20th, 2011 (http://www.thefutoncritic.com/listings/2011/02/20/):


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7:00 PM    CBS    60 minutes
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8:00 PM    CBS    amazing race, the (#1801)
[18th season premiere]
Quote
9:00 PM    CBS    undercover boss: (projected date) (#215)
Quote
10:00 PM    CBS    csi: miami: last stand (#913)

At this time, CBS has apparently released listings information for 7:00pm, 8:00pm, and 10:00pm ET. Only the 9:00 pm hour with Undercover Boss is "projected"

This says to me that CBS might be planning an extended premiere; or they just haven't confirmed what episode of Undercover Boss will air that night. Of course, the CSI:Miami episode listing might be a feint to throw the other networks off, but at the moment, I think the odds are 50-50 for an extended premiere. I'm also not sure what programming CBS may have planned between 3pm and 7pm, so we might want to see if that can be pinned down.
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 22, 2011, 04:46:17 PM
It is odd that they have it showing diff times, depending where you look.

But this is on the home page and so it maked you think they may really mean it??

But I would think they would like the premiere to be at the time they plan on airing to nab that audience right off the bat. 9 is too late for some families...

So :duno:
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Post by: Reilly Queens on January 22, 2011, 04:48:30 PM
I guess in the coming weeks we will find out!
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Post by: Caelestor on January 22, 2011, 07:43:36 PM
8:00-10:00 premiere just seems so natural for a TBC in the first leg.
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 22, 2011, 08:01:39 PM
Sydney and Broken Leg will be two legs though.
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Post by: AmazingRace on January 22, 2011, 08:15:41 PM
Sydney and Broken Leg will be two legs though.

I'm sure you mean Broken Hill.   :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on January 22, 2011, 08:32:52 PM
Oh my....

It has been a really long day.  :-[

 :lol: :lol3: :lol: :lol3: :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 22, 2011, 11:45:25 PM
So if the premiere indeed turns out to be two-hours, am I correct in assuming that both of those hours will solely feature the time the racers spent in Sydney?
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Post by: theschnauzers on January 23, 2011, 11:06:56 AM
The episode order apparently is for 12 episodes, which has been the norm since TAR 14, IIRC. I think the operating assumption has been that there will only be 11 legs because of the first leg being an uberleg (TBC) over two episodes.

From the fact that there was a start line task, the problems for the one flight from LAX to Sydney via Hawaii and one other unscheduled stop, and from the extensive spoilage information about the Sydney portion of the leg, I can see a 90 minute or 2 hour premiere just for that. It is a lot, but it does seem to me that eventfulnesswise, this has to be one of the most front-loaded first legs ever for TAR. And of course, CBS and WRP will want to make every use of the HD cameras focusing in the locales in the process. But we'll have to wait and see.
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 23, 2011, 11:51:55 AM
They should def take advantage of what they have. We know the first leg is going to be AWESOME...start task, REAL clues,  airplane drama, great location and tasks, and one popular team way behind....all culminating in a TBC. This first episode is where they grab or lose viewers...so I would promote it to the max!

Deserves at least 90 minutes in my book. :yess:
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Post by: Reilly Queens on January 23, 2011, 12:18:11 PM
They should def take advantage of what they have. We know the first leg is going to be AWESOME...start task, REAL clues,  airplane drama, great location and tasks, and one popular team way behind....all culminating in a TBC. This first episode is where they grab or lose viewers...so I would promote it to the max!

Deserves at least 90 minutes in my book. :yess:

I agree, but I don't want the whole first 20 minutes being airports and stuff like that.

Can't wait until my DVR finds it!
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Post by: DrRox on January 23, 2011, 12:30:21 PM
They should def take advantage of what they have. We know the first leg is going to be AWESOME...start task, REAL clues,  airplane drama, great location and tasks, and one popular team way behind....all culminating in a TBC. This first episode is where they grab or lose viewers...so I would promote it to the max!

Deserves at least 90 minutes in my book. :yess:

The reason for the delay in the schedule just might be to a lot of discussions on just how long to make the premier.................just sayin.
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Post by: apskip on January 23, 2011, 12:47:04 PM
They should def take advantage of what they have. We know the first leg is going to be AWESOME...start task, REAL clues,  airplane drama, great location and tasks, and one popular team way behind....all culminating in a TBC. This first episode is where they grab or lose viewers...so I would promote it to the max!

Deserves at least 90 minutes in my book. :yess:

I agree, but I don't want the whole first 20 minutes being airports and stuff like that.

Can't wait until my DVR finds it!

Some people (like me) think that the best drama of the Amazing Race is in the airports and travel agencies and in self-driving automobiles in countries where the road signs are inexplicable to Americans.
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Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 23, 2011, 06:55:55 PM
They should def take advantage of what they have. We know the first leg is going to be AWESOME...start task, REAL clues,  airplane drama, great location and tasks, and one popular team way behind....all culminating in a TBC. This first episode is where they grab or lose viewers...so I would promote it to the max!

Deserves at least 90 minutes in my book. :yess:

I agree, but I don't want the whole first 20 minutes being airports and stuff like that.

Can't wait until my DVR finds it!

Some people (like me) think that the best drama of the Amazing Race is in the airports and travel agencies and in self-driving automobiles in countries where the road signs are inexplicable to Americans.
I have to agree with you. I'm hoping for a lot of good airport scenes!
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Post by: AmazingRace on January 23, 2011, 06:58:07 PM
I have to agree with you. I'm hoping for a lot of good airport scenes!

and nice airplane scenes too!  :hearts:
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Post by: DrRox on January 23, 2011, 10:16:18 PM
there was a TAR promo during the football game tonight...
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Post by: Caelestor on January 23, 2011, 10:43:40 PM
Airport scenes are great when not everyone's bunched up on the same flight.

But yes, hoping for 90 minutes for at least Sydney!
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Post by: LoveRocked on January 23, 2011, 10:52:21 PM
I have to agree with you. I'm hoping for a lot of good airport scenes!

and nice airplane scenes too!  :hearts:

Me too!! I can't wait watch so badly but :( only on Feb 21, but it's actually different world time for me.. :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin88 on January 24, 2011, 12:24:44 AM
Sucks are saying that Amanda/Kris and Margie/Luke were in Elimination Station together....

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Post by: georgiapeach on January 24, 2011, 04:39:41 AM
I am not seeing that...can you PM me the link please?
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Post by: Coutzy on January 24, 2011, 06:03:30 AM
Sucks are saying that Amanda/Kris and Margie/Luke were in Elimination Station together....



Id be taking anything sucks says with a pinch of salt, considering

Quote
Zev/Justin and Amanda/Kris not yet seen. Jaime/Cara and Kynt/Vyxsin spotted in US, can't see anything from in Australia yet.

ETA: Nevermind, it seems Margie/Luke and others were also seen in US. Only thing we really know is Kisha/Jen and Gary/Malory are ahead.

Especially :res: considering they were basically reading off what I was posting via Peach.
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Post by: LoveRocked on January 24, 2011, 06:09:59 AM
Sucks are saying that Amanda/Kris and Margie/Luke were in Elimination Station together....



Where you get information? or video on TAR promo?
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Post by: AmazingRace on January 24, 2011, 06:16:35 AM
Sucks are saying that Amanda/Kris and Margie/Luke were in Elimination Station together....



Where you get information? or video on TAR promo?

I believe the Sucks he is referring to is the survivorsucks forums.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: TrueNorth on January 24, 2011, 10:04:20 AM
After seeing the "Sucks" site mentioned several times, I decided to check it out for myself. Wow! what a difference from this forum and not in a good way. The language is unbelievable and it seems that folks there go out of their way to be vulgar just because they can.  I think I'll stick to RFF, thank you!
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Post by: Prophet on January 24, 2011, 10:12:38 AM
After seeing the "Sucks" site mentioned several times, I decided to check it out for myself. Wow! what a difference from this forum and not in a good way. The language is unbelievable and it seems that folks there go out of their way to be vulgar just because they can.  I think I'll stick to RFF, thank you!

I know; I have had the pleasure of visiting this exciting site as well. It is not nearly as organized as RFF is; they seem to have boards and topics strewn all over the place. They do not project the positive and professional image RFF projects at all.
Good work Rob, puddin, Peach, TL, and the rest!
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Post by: theschnauzers on January 24, 2011, 10:48:11 AM
"That place" gets into some really bad habits and it makes it difficult to separate fact from fiction, speculation from reality, and a few other choice contrasts.  I haven't really been there to visit much since about 2003.
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Post by: georgiapeach on January 24, 2011, 11:25:38 AM
okay..sucks enough. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: NumfarPTB on January 24, 2011, 02:56:38 PM
They should def take advantage of what they have. We know the first leg is going to be AWESOME...start task, REAL clues,  airplane drama, great location and tasks, and one popular team way behind....all culminating in a TBC. This first episode is where they grab or lose viewers...so I would promote it to the max!

Deserves at least 90 minutes in my book. :yess:

I agree, but I don't want the whole first 20 minutes being airports and stuff like that.

Can't wait until my DVR finds it!

Some people (like me) think that the best drama of the Amazing Race is in the airports and travel agencies and in self-driving automobiles in countries where the road signs are inexplicable to Americans.
I have to agree with you. I'm hoping for a lot of good airport scenes!

Let me join the hail of love for Airport and travel agency drama.

We can expect networks to release this week Press Releases for February Sweeps line-up as whole, so I think we'll know for sure debut time and length for the premiere this week.

Really hope for a extended episode for the premiere, TAR17 got a extended premiere with unknown teams, for the HD and the returning teams TAR18 also deserves at least a 90-minute telecast.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 24, 2011, 07:33:40 PM
Now CBS.com has it fixed...sort of:
(http://i52.[banned image hosting site].com/213onis.jpg)
Looks like they're still having a bit of trouble though...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: ovalorange on January 24, 2011, 10:58:17 PM
I am so glad they dumped the FTBE...they have names. :)

personally I think it was they couldn't fit their FTBE names under their tiny picture
.  :lol:

and CBS on my computer says 9/8c too

They just did  :lol: I think we all jinxed it.

Herb and Nate are listed as "Flight Time and Big Easy" and Kisha is listed as "LaKisha".
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Post by: AmazingRace on January 24, 2011, 11:13:57 PM
Herb and Nate are listed as "Flight Time and Big Easy" and Kisha is listed as "LaKisha".

Yeah, they changed it back to Flight Time & Big Easy. I wonder why?  :duno:
 
Also, they're not showing the Season 18 cast on the front page, but instead the Final 3 teams of TAR 17.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 25, 2011, 07:47:20 AM
Hmmm, now that they changed 'Herb & Nate' to 'Flight Time & Big Easy', the teams are no longer in alphabetical order. 'Flight Time & Big Easy' would fit ahead of Gary & Mallory, while 'Herb & Nate' fit behind them. :spell

Is it just me, or are there loads of problems with the CBS TAR Site? :neener:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 25, 2011, 08:08:49 AM
Is it just me, or are there loads of problems with the CBS TAR Site? :neener:

The CBS site has been having a lot of trouble for the past few weeks.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on January 25, 2011, 01:08:39 PM
Is it just me, or are there loads of problems with the CBS TAR Site? :neener:

The CBS site has been having a lot of trouble for the past few weeks.

Make that the last ten years. They've always have problems that never get fixed. (Earliest one I can remember is a leaderboard error in the middle of TAR 3. We submitted messages to the CBS web monkeys at the time, and they never got it fixed.)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on January 25, 2011, 05:26:08 PM
Is it just me, or are there loads of problems with the CBS TAR Site? :neener:

The CBS site has been having a lot of trouble for the past few weeks.

Make that the last ten years. They've always have problems that never get fixed. (Earliest one I can remember is a leaderboard error in the middle of TAR 3. We submitted messages to the CBS web monkeys at the time, and they never got it fixed.)

Oh yeah, I remember that TAR3 error. It had Derek & Drew listed as sixth place instead of third place on one of the Morocco legs. (:;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Reilly Queens on January 26, 2011, 12:15:47 AM
Is it just me, or are there loads of problems with the CBS TAR Site? :neener:

The CBS site has been having a lot of trouble for the past few weeks.

Make that the last ten years. They've always have problems that never get fixed. (Earliest one I can remember is a leaderboard error in the middle of TAR 3. We submitted messages to the CBS web monkeys at the time, and they never got it fixed.)

They Seem to have it fixed now, although the font is teeny weeny small  for the racers
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on January 27, 2011, 06:19:18 PM
Do you think there is a task similar to the Post Office in Ushuaia? I'd love it!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on January 27, 2011, 06:33:34 PM
Do you think there is a task similar to the Post Office in Ushuaia? I'd love it!

I loved that task too!  :hearts: I hope there is a similar task too!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: BayBay on January 27, 2011, 09:51:11 PM
I'm a pretty sure the Kangaroos is a route info according to promos!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on January 28, 2011, 10:27:20 AM
I'm a pretty sure the Kangaroos is a route info according to promos!

Why not a Detour?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on January 28, 2011, 03:09:23 PM
Do you think there is a task similar to the Post Office in Ushuaia? I'd love it!

I loved that task too!  :hearts: I hope there is a similar task too!

The Isla Redonda Unidad Postal Fin del Mundo ROADBLOCK was notable in that Rob lost to Mirna, causing ob/Amber to be eliminated after 3 consecutive first-place legs at the start of AR11. Otherwise, it was just a typical random task where Mirna's task was independent of Rob's. A more exciting random task would be AR6 at Bogs Gard Farm in Sweden where Lena unrolled hay bales. In that task, her results were not independent of the other teams coming in and finding one of the limited number of clues.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on January 28, 2011, 05:30:33 PM
IMO independent random tasks beat the dependent ones, because then it's fair play for everybody.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin88 on January 28, 2011, 07:11:27 PM
Do you think there is a task similar to the Post Office in Ushuaia? I'd love it!

I loved that task too!  :hearts: I hope there is a similar task too!

The Isla Redonda Unidad Postal Fin del Mundo ROADBLOCK was notable in that Rob lost to Mirna, causing ob/Amber to be eliminated after 3 consecutive first-place legs at the start of AR11. Otherwise, it was just a typical random task where Mirna's task was independent of Rob's. A more exciting random task would be AR6 at Bogs Gard Farm in Sweden where Lena unrolled hay bales. In that task, her results were not independent of the other teams coming in and finding one of the limited number of clues.

It is the people who make the task memorable, not the tasks itself. Imagine a Kris/Kisha/Luke or Amanda/Jen/Margie showdown for last place, no matter what the task, it will be memorable...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on January 28, 2011, 08:04:47 PM
Apskip, I know that. But what I mean is the "memories" of past racers, like their letters, not the task of finding the letters itself. It is the "good luck" or the cursing letters of their past racers that I want to see. :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on January 28, 2011, 09:45:26 PM
Apskip, I know that. But what I mean is the "memories" of past racers, like their letters, not the task of finding the letters itself. It is the "good luck" or the cursing letters of their past racers that I want to see. :groan:

Yeah. It was interesting to see the other former teams from old seasons write to the All-Star teams.  :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Belle Book on January 29, 2011, 10:20:47 AM
Apskip, I know that. But what I mean is the "memories" of past racers, like their letters, not the task of finding the letters itself. It is the "good luck" or the cursing letters of their past racers that I want to see. :groan:

Yeah. It was interesting to see the other former teams from old seasons write to the All-Star teams.  :tup:

Particularly Patrick's letter to Rob & Amber.  I felt quite a bit of pity for poor Rob -- in last place and having to get a letter like that!

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on January 29, 2011, 03:08:02 PM
Apskip, I know that. But what I mean is the "memories" of past racers, like their letters, not the task of finding the letters itself. It is the "good luck" or the cursing letters of their past racers that I want to see. :groan:

Yeah. It was interesting to see the other former teams from old seasons write to the All-Star teams.  :tup:

Particularly Patrick's letter to Rob & Amber.  I felt quite a bit of pity for poor Rob -- in last place and having to get a letter like that!

Belle Book


I would have felt worse being Patrick and having Rob and Amber admit they didn't know who I was after reading it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: milanissimo on February 01, 2011, 12:42:49 PM
I just look the photos of Miami ...
..but..Peach  .please.........Can you upload  the photos in their original size ???

Anyway .....I think that probably ...the top 5 will be..:Marge/Luke  Gary/Mallory  Kevin/Justin  Jen/Kisha   and  the goths or Flight time/big easy
Jet and Cord at 7th place..eliminated in Varanasi
Ron and Christina   at 8th place :( eliminated in Kolkata
 :waves: :waves:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: JETandCORDfan on February 01, 2011, 03:27:55 PM
 :badhorse:

I will go insane if Jet and cord get eliminated.

What ever...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Belle Book on February 01, 2011, 07:22:39 PM
I just look the photos of Miami ...
..but..Peach  .please.........Can you upload  the photos in their original size ???

Anyway .....I think that probably ...the top 5 will be..:Marge/Luke  Gary/Mallory  Kevin/Justin  Jen/Kisha   and  the goths or Flight time/big easy
Jet and Cord at 7th place..eliminated in Varanasi
Ron and Christina   at 8th place :( eliminated in Kolkata
 :waves: :waves:

Wouldn't mind Jet & Cord get eliminated -- at least not as much as I would mind Ron & Christina getting eliminated.  However, I think Ron & Christina will make the top 6 and Margie & Luke will be eliminated in 8th.

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin88 on February 01, 2011, 07:28:55 PM
I just look the photos of Miami ...
..but..Peach  .please.........Can you upload  the photos in their original size ???

Anyway .....I think that probably ...the top 5 will be..:Marge/Luke  Gary/Mallory  Kevin/Justin  Jen/Kisha   and  the goths or Flight time/big easy
Jet and Cord at 7th place..eliminated in Varanasi
Ron and Christina   at 8th place :( eliminated in Kolkata
 :waves: :waves:

Wouldn't mind Jet & Cord get eliminated -- at least not as much as I would mind Ron & Christina getting eliminated.  However, I think Ron & Christina will make the top 6 and Margie & Luke will be eliminated in 8th.

Belle Book


I hope Margie & Luke make F5 or even F4....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on February 01, 2011, 07:51:20 PM
With the exception of perhaps, Ron & Christina and/or Jet & Cord, I would like to see teams that never made the Final 3 before make it this time around.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on February 01, 2011, 08:34:49 PM
I just look the photos of Miami ...
..but..Peach  .please.........Can you upload  the photos in their original size ???

Anyway .....I think that probably ...the top 5 will be..:Marge/Luke  Gary/Mallory  Kevin/Justin  Jen/Kisha   and  the goths or Flight time/big easy
Jet and Cord at 7th place..eliminated in Varanasi
Ron and Christina   at 8th place :( eliminated in Kolkata
 :waves: :waves:

Wouldn't mind Jet & Cord get eliminated -- at least not as much as I would mind Ron & Christina getting eliminated.  However, I think Ron & Christina will make the top 6 and Margie & Luke will be eliminated in 8th.

Belle Book


I hope Margie & Luke make F5 or even F4....

I agree with that. I think Margie & Luke beat Ron & Chris before F5 or F4
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Peace, Love, TAR! :D on February 02, 2011, 12:07:34 PM
:badhorse:

I will go insane if Jet and cord get eliminated.

What ever...

I probably will too
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: gingerman28 on February 03, 2011, 01:32:36 PM
I have finally had time to catch up on all you have put together for TAR18.  Not much left out.  And to think that we were in Vienna on our annual Christmas visit the same time that TAR was there (Dec. 5/6) and never knew they were there!   Can't wait until that ep airs to see what we missed.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 03, 2011, 01:37:52 PM
Oh WOW!! If I had known THAT!! :lol:

Great to see you G-Man!!!  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Zvarri on February 04, 2011, 06:25:26 PM
:badhorse:

I will go insane if Jet and cord get eliminated.

What ever...

I look forward seeing you go insane.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on February 05, 2011, 12:50:30 AM
Since TAR 18 started filming before TAR 17 Finale was shown, I wonder if any of the all-female teams said "We wanna be the first all girl-girl team to win this race." during their interviews.

The editors will most probably cut that out if that was said not to make them look dumb.  :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: redskevin88 on February 05, 2011, 02:09:23 AM
Since TAR 18 started filming before TAR 17 Finale was shown, I wonder if any of the all-female teams said "We wanna be the first all girl-girl team to win this race." during their interviews.

The editors will most probably cut that out if that was said not to make them look dumb.  :snicker:

They could still do that, Nat & Kat were not girls, they were ladies...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on February 06, 2011, 01:38:34 AM
Kent posted of a big announcement tomorrow. I wonder what more could it be?  :duno:  :snicker:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on February 06, 2011, 01:49:24 AM
Since there's been no title coming from CBS, I propose the following.

"Who is this crazy Australian guy that has been following us all day?" :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Glamazon Racer on February 06, 2011, 03:16:30 AM
Since there's been no title coming from CBS, I propose the following.

"Who is this crazy Australian guy that has been following us all day?" :lol3:
:lol3: :lol3: :lol3: That would be a fitting title!

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on February 06, 2011, 08:11:09 AM
Since TAR 18 started filming before TAR 17 Finale was shown, I wonder if any of the all-female teams said "We wanna be the first all girl-girl team to win this race." during their interviews.

The editors will most probably cut that out if that was said not to make them look dumb.  :snicker:

The producers most probably told Kisha and Jen and Cara and Jaime that a girl team had won TAR 17. :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jerseydude on February 06, 2011, 10:00:21 AM
Since TAR 18 started filming before TAR 17 Finale was shown, I wonder if any of the all-female teams said "We wanna be the first all girl-girl team to win this race." during their interviews.

The editors will most probably cut that out if that was said not to make them look dumb.  :snicker:

The producers most probably told Kisha and Jen and Cara and Jaime that a girl team had won TAR 17. :lol3:

Or Gary and Mallory
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kacper on February 06, 2011, 10:12:38 AM
Kent posted of a big announcement tomorrow. I wonder what more could it be?  :duno:  :snicker:

Is today the "tomorrow"? Because it says he posted it 12 hours ago so he posted it on saturday  :duno: :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 06, 2011, 10:16:51 AM
Old news. it was the cast reveal.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Peace, Love, TAR! :D on February 06, 2011, 12:43:39 PM
Since there's been no title coming from CBS, I propose the following.

"Who is this crazy Australian guy that has been following us all day?" :lol3:
:lol3: :lol3: :lol3: That would be a fitting title!


 :lol3: :lol: :winner Agreed!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on February 07, 2011, 03:45:00 AM
Kent posted of a big announcement tomorrow. I wonder what more could it be?  :duno:  :snicker:

Is today the "tomorrow"? Because it says he posted it 12 hours ago so he posted it on saturday  :duno: :duno:

He wanted to reveal details for the Premiere Party.  :js:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 08, 2011, 08:26:29 AM
Idea for Unfinished Business drinking game: Take a shot every time the cowboys music gets played.

Idea for Unfinished Business drinking game: Take a shot every time we see Coutzy.

:jam:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 08, 2011, 08:27:21 AM
Idea for Unfinished Business drinking game: Take a shot every time the cowboys music gets played.

Idea for Unfinished Business drinking game: Take a shot every time we see Coutzy.


:jam:


:lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on February 08, 2011, 06:03:19 PM
Idea for Unfinished Business drinking game: Take a shot every time the cowboys music gets played.

Idea for Unfinished Business drinking game: Take a shot every time we see Coutzy.

:jam:


If I did my job right, you'll be stone cold sober at the end.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 08, 2011, 06:05:30 PM
We already KNOW you did it right. :kuss:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on February 09, 2011, 05:37:53 AM
Idea for Unfinished Business drinking game: Take a shot every time the cowboys music gets played.

Idea for Unfinished Business drinking game: Take a shot every time we see Coutzy.

:jam:


But I don't know what Coutzy looks like. To be safe, I'll take a drink every time I see an Aussie.  :roo  :beer2:

After I sober up, I'll watch it again without drinking.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on February 09, 2011, 05:46:51 AM
Idea for Unfinished Business drinking game: Take a shot every time the cowboys music gets played.

Idea for Unfinished Business drinking game: Take a shot every time we see Coutzy.

:jam:


But I don't know what Coutzy looks like. To be safe, I'll take a drink every time I see an Aussie.  :roo  :beer2:

After I sober up, I'll watch it again without drinking.



I'll be sure to let everybody know if I get on The Amazing Race.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on February 10, 2011, 11:34:29 PM
PERSONAL OPINIONS REGARDING THE STARTING LINE SURPRISE.

Here's what I thought I heard:

The other teams will be on the second flight which lands about ___ hours after the first flight. But there's something else. The last team to complete this challenge will receive a penalty which will have a devastating effect in their stay in this race. [....] Automatic U-Turn.

My speculation is that the last team will get an automatic U-Turn somewhere within this race, not necessarily in Australia.

By deduction, one of the three teams on the second flight (which turned out to be the first one to arrive because of circumstances) suffers from this penalty.

OR Unless they have to find a plane ticket at the paper planes (there are two possible flights that can come up), which will switch up the order of finishing the task. This is actually better, I think, because it poses the question: Will you take time finding the first flight OR Will you finish this task as fast as possible no matter what flight you get to avoid being last and get the penalty? It's like which can benefit you in the race, short-run or long run? I hope you get what I mean. :lol:

*WARNING: CRAPPY PREDICTION BELOW. XD*
My sheer imaginative prediction is that Jaime and Cara gets last in this task. I think they will be slapped with the U-Turn in China causing them to be eliminated.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on February 10, 2011, 11:39:33 PM
Quote
*WARNING: CRAPPY PREDICTION BELOW. XD*
My sheer imaginative prediction is that Jaime and Cara gets last in this task. I think they will be slapped with the U-Turn in China causing them to be eliminated.

 :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: walkingpneumonia on February 11, 2011, 11:23:58 AM
PERSONAL OPINIONS REGARDING THE STARTING LINE SURPRISE.

Here's what I thought I heard:

The other teams will be on the second flight which lands about ___ hours after the first flight. But there's something else. The last team to complete this challenge will receive a penalty which will have a devastating effect in their stay in this race. [....] Automatic U-Turn.

My speculation is that the last team will get an automatic U-Turn somewhere within this race, not necessarily in Australia.

By deduction, one of the three teams on the second flight (which turned out to be the first one to arrive because of circumstances) suffers from this penalty.

OR Unless they have to find a plane ticket at the paper planes (there are two possible flights that can come up), which will switch up the order of finishing the task. This is actually better, I think, because it poses the question: Will you take time finding the first flight OR Will you finish this task as fast as possible no matter what flight you get to avoid being last and get the penalty? It's like which can benefit you in the race, short-run or long run? I hope you get what I mean. :lol:

*WARNING: CRAPPY PREDICTION BELOW. XD*
My sheer imaginative prediction is that Jaime and Cara gets last in this task. I think they will be slapped with the U-Turn in China causing them to be eliminated.

Speculating that the automatic U-Turn may be the opposite of the Express Pass.
If you get the automatic U-Turn by finishing last in the start line challenge, at some point during the race you must U-Turn yourself and complete the other side of the detour.
The strategy question for the team that is burdened with the auto U-Turn is when do you use it? Right away when you may have a slight lead or hold on to it until the last leg?  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on February 11, 2011, 11:51:34 AM
That is great speculation, WP......it makes a lot of sense. I would want to use it early, when there are more teams around and when both detour choices appear to be both easy/simple and in close proximity to one another.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on February 11, 2011, 08:52:59 PM
That would be better than eliminating a team at the Start Line.   :<3
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on February 12, 2011, 04:14:40 AM
Hmmm. I scanned few pages back from RFF's spoilers and

Kent/vyksin finished last,but they are still running,phil said uturn ahead

?!!!

So Phil might be telling everyone about this U-turn because someone has to Automatic U-Turn themselves in Kunming? ???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on February 12, 2011, 05:24:21 AM
Thinking aloud here, don't mind me.

Is it possible, given the reversal of the flights that Amanda and Kris get the Automatic U-Turn for finishing last, and this was put into effect immediately after the first check in with Phil (in the speculated route markers prior to signing up for a charter flight) This may explain how they went from 2nd to 10th in what seemed such a short amount of time.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 12, 2011, 06:36:46 AM
Thinking aloud here, don't mind me.

Is it possible, given the reversal of the flights that Amanda and Kris get the Automatic U-Turn for finishing last, and this was put into effect immediately after the first check in with Phil (in the speculated route markers prior to signing up for a charter flight) This may explain how they went from 2nd to 10th in what seemed such a short amount of time.

That does make more sense to me than anything else.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Belle Book on February 12, 2011, 08:47:43 AM
Thinking aloud here, don't mind me.

Is it possible, given the reversal of the flights that Amanda and Kris get the Automatic U-Turn for finishing last, and this was put into effect immediately after the first check in with Phil (in the speculated route markers prior to signing up for a charter flight) This may explain how they went from 2nd to 10th in what seemed such a short amount of time.

That would make sense and explain why Amanda & Kris were apparently the first team out of the Race.  In that case, they really seem to get hit hard by U-Turns!

Belle Book
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 12, 2011, 09:44:46 AM
Thinking aloud here, don't mind me.

Is it possible, given the reversal of the flights that Amanda and Kris get the Automatic U-Turn for finishing last, and this was put into effect immediately after the first check in with Phil (in the speculated route markers prior to signing up for a charter flight) This may explain how they went from 2nd to 10th in what seemed such a short amount of time.

That would make sense and explain why Amanda & Kris were apparently the first team out of the Race.  In that case, they really seem to get hit hard by U-Turns!

Belle Book


Remember everyone:
Jet and Cord arrived last at the midway check in point. Krimanda were eliminated at Broken Hill. The Cowboys were most likely U-Turned in Sydney. If the U-turn was in Sydney that is and I think it will be b/c I don't see why they would continue a penalty from the starting line to the second episode.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on February 12, 2011, 10:27:20 AM
Thinking aloud here, don't mind me.

Is it possible, given the reversal of the flights that Amanda and Kris get the Automatic U-Turn for finishing last, and this was put into effect immediately after the first check in with Phil (in the speculated route markers prior to signing up for a charter flight) This may explain how they went from 2nd to 10th in what seemed such a short amount of time.

That would make sense and explain why Amanda & Kris were apparently the first team out of the Race.  In that case, they really seem to get hit hard by U-Turns!

Belle Book


Remember everyone:
Jet and Cord arrived last at the midway check in point. Krimanda were eliminated at Broken Hill. The Cowboys were most likely U-Turned in Sydney. If the U-turn was in Sydney that is and I think it will be b/c I don't see why they would continue a penalty from the starting line to the second episode.

Jet and Cord arrive last at the midway point due to missing a crucial ferry connection just after landing in Sydney, a gap they could not make up. There was no U-Turn in Sydney prior to teams checking in, I would be willing to stake my life on it. So Jet & Cord arriving last to the midway point has nothing to do with any kind of U-Turn.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kiki on February 12, 2011, 10:54:24 AM
I believe that Coutzy is right. After all he was there. Besides it seems from what we know so far (including Coutzy's eyewitness information) that there is no detour in Sydney so how could have been a U-Turn?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 12, 2011, 10:55:26 AM
Agreed!! ^^

I like WP's spec that this could reappear anywhere... so don't be too sure about anything!

Have to say, I would hate it if Amanda and Kris were done in by another U-Turn. :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: JETandCORDfan on February 12, 2011, 01:32:15 PM
I know this is a bit off topic, but don't forget maybe there is a new kind of task like they introduced the double u-turn last year.

I was thinking maybe the last 3 teams that are on flight #2 may need to each U-Turn them selves somewhere in the race. My guess is it  must have been Amanda and Kris who chose to you there automatic U-Turn on the TBC Leg Part 2.

Just a guess that is 99% completely off.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on February 12, 2011, 02:01:50 PM
Ignore me if I'm missing something here, but I am under the impression that the penalty goes to the team that finished the initial start line task last. I'm also under the impression that this start line penalty earns that particular team an "automatic" U-Turn at some point in the Race.

I don't read this as meaning the penalty attached to the first Detour task of the Race, and it could be applied at the point where a U-Turn is first available (Blind, Double, or normal).  That would make the most sense to me, because that particular team will be trying to stay far enough ahead of the back of the pack so they could complete both tasks of a detour that the U-Turn is available for, and still not be the last team to arrive at the pit stop for whatever leg the U-Turn first appears.

From a production viewpoint, this assures that both tasks of that particular Detour gets performed and thus not waste any production costs on something not used, and gives WRP something for the editors to play with.  And it leaves the teams guessing when this will happen, and means that some other team(s) could also be U-Turned, as the U-Turn could still be a normal one, a blind one, or a double one in addition to the one team having to automatically perform both detour tasks.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 12, 2011, 02:06:04 PM
Ignore me if I'm missing something here, but I am under the impression that the penalty goes to the team that finished the initial start line task last. I'm also under the impression that this start line penalty earns that particular team an "automatic" U-Turn at some point in the Race.

I don't read this as meaning the penalty attached to the first Detour task of the Race, and it could be applied at the point where a U-Turn is first available (Blind, Double, or normal).  That would make the most sense to me, because that particular team will be trying to stay far enough ahead of the back of the pack so they could complete both tasks of a detour that the U-Turn is available for, and still not be the last team to arrive at the pit stop for whatever leg the U-Turn first appears.

From a production viewpoint, this assures that both tasks of that particular Detour gets performed and thus not waste any production costs on something not used, and gives WRP something for the editors to play with.  And it leaves the teams guessing when this will happen, and means that some other team(s) could also be U-Turned, as the U-Turn could still be a normal one, a blind one, or a double one in addition to the one team having to automatically perform both detour tasks.

So you're saying that you think that this "automatic U-turn" penalty is not nessecarily incured during the first leg, but where the actual first U-Turn is?
If this is the case, then it was Jamie and Cara who finished the starting line task last.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 12, 2011, 02:15:58 PM
So you're saying that you think that this "automatic U-turn" penalty is not nessecarily incured during the first leg, but where the actual first U-Turn is?
If this is the case, then it was Jamie and Cara who finished the starting line task last.

Let's please not all jump to unfounded assumptons.  We have NO evidence of the rules of this new penalty, so it is impossible at this time to say why and when and who this will affect with any certainty.


This makes excellent sense though:

Speculating that the automatic U-Turn may be the opposite of the Express Pass.
If you get the automatic U-Turn by finishing last in the start line challenge, at some point during the race you must U-Turn yourself and complete the other side of the detour.
The strategy question for the team that is burdened with the auto U-Turn is when do you use it? Right away when you may have a slight lead or hold on to it until the last leg?  :duno:

Jaime and Cara were however, I believe, U-Turned in the traditional way. :angel
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 12, 2011, 02:41:35 PM
Speculating that the automatic U-Turn may be the opposite of the Express Pass.
If you get the automatic U-Turn by finishing last in the start line challenge, at some point during the race you must U-Turn yourself and complete the other side of the detour.
The strategy question for the team that is burdened with the auto U-Turn is when do you use it? Right away when you may have a slight lead or hold on to it until the last leg?  :duno:

Whether or not we have any evidence for this, I do like this idea and think it would make the Race very interesting.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on February 12, 2011, 04:26:35 PM
This makes excellent sense though:

Speculating that the automatic U-Turn may be the opposite of the Express Pass.
If you get the automatic U-Turn by finishing last in the start line challenge, at some point during the race you must U-Turn yourself and complete the other side of the detour.
The strategy question for the team that is burdened with the auto U-Turn is when do you use it? Right away when you may have a slight lead or hold on to it until the last leg?  :duno:

It just has a beautiful symetery about it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on February 12, 2011, 06:27:39 PM
I'm not saying there's not more than one way to interpret what is known, but I thought I should lay out an alternate way that the new penalty might, I repeat might, work in practice.

But I agree we'll have to wait until we have more information than we have right now.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Coutzy on February 12, 2011, 08:25:18 PM
If the team that receives this automatic U-Turn gets it in a later leg, and knows that its coming, it would make sense to also U-Turn a team at that point. If this is the case, it may be why Jamie and Cara end up U-Turned.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: JETandCORDfan on February 12, 2011, 10:41:52 PM
Either way guys, all of you have great speculation and ideas!

When all the episodes premier we will know!

Remember We are only a week away until the premier!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on February 12, 2011, 11:19:41 PM
Either way guys, all of you have great speculation and ideas!

When all the episodes premier we will know!

Remember We are only a week away until the premier!

Yeah.. I agree with you.. We need know right now and One week left until the primetime...  they are amazing detective,  and analysis evidence but not much enough evidence..
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Zack. on February 13, 2011, 11:44:59 AM
I suspect the automatic U-Turn would work best in a double, i.e. have one team's photo already up, with the 'Courtesy of' picture being their own image or Phil or something. This way someone else (or the affected team) can still use it if they haul enough ass.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 13, 2011, 11:50:02 AM
I think the Automatic U-turn is something that the team affected has to do...not a choice for them, and stands alone.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on February 14, 2011, 01:20:40 AM
I think the Automatic U-turn is something that the team affected has to do...not a choice for them, and stands alone.

I agree with this. I would speculate that it would work just as a Speedbump (with the pics of the team already there).

Additionally, having a penalty that might come haunt you unexpectedly in an unknown future leg screams: "FREE DRAMA" to me.

BTW, doesn't it seem kind of interesting that the previous returning-racers (S11) featured the Yield extensively and that now the U-Turn comes into the spotlight in a similar fashion?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 15, 2011, 01:22:37 AM
Hmmm...

One thing I have learned from doing the caps is that we see certain shots for a reason...clues if you like.

This season appears to be no different.  ;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on February 15, 2011, 02:55:40 AM
Since this is a speculation thread..

I am more incline to think that the team who receives the penalty of an automatic U-TURN will not know when the U-TURN will be placed on the race.. and that Phil will include in his speech that this team who receives the penalty will then have to race as hard as they can each leg just in case the automatic U-TURN happens on that leg. If you get eliminated before the automatic U-TURN appears, then too bad.. because you're indeed too weak. If you're still in the race by the time the automatic U-TURN appears.. then you gotta work your ass and complete it without getting eliminated!

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 15, 2011, 03:03:56 AM
They know.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on February 15, 2011, 03:13:13 AM
They know.

If they do.. then they will know which leg they will have a U-TURN?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: countryboy270 on February 15, 2011, 12:08:52 PM
nm
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 15, 2011, 12:12:18 PM
 :bigwelcome countryboy270!

We are glad you are here, feel free to chime in on the discussions!

Friends and family have it tough...sometimes it is hard to read other's opinions of your friends based on what we see on the show...so do forgive us and feel free to tell us your side as well!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: countryboy270 on February 15, 2011, 12:22:03 PM
nm
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 15, 2011, 01:37:28 PM
Let's get to the point.

Do you think you will ever tell who these mysterious contestants are?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 15, 2011, 01:39:25 PM
Let's not go there...we aren't asking you for your real name and YOUR roommates name. :lol:

We are glad to have anyone...racers, friends,  families, fans here!! And hope you all have fun.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: countryboy270 on February 15, 2011, 10:51:31 PM
There are some good investigators on here as I have seen. I'm sure you all can find out who I have connections with. One hint: read my username :D
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on February 15, 2011, 10:53:16 PM
There are some good investigators on here as I have seen. I'm sure you all can find out who I have connections with. One hint: read my username :D

:ascared
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on February 15, 2011, 11:20:42 PM
quote removed by request


Thanks for all the info and welcome to RFF.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on February 15, 2011, 11:28:36 PM
There are some good investigators on here as I have seen. I'm sure you all can find out who I have connections with. One hint: read my username :D

 :ascared
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: countryboy270 on February 15, 2011, 11:29:33 PM


Thanks for all the info and welcome to RFF.

You're welcome. If I hear anything I'll let y'all know about it!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on February 15, 2011, 11:36:01 PM
CBS plant, I hope you're not. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: countryboy270 on February 15, 2011, 11:37:03 PM
CBS plant, I hope you're not. :lol:

What's that mean?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 16, 2011, 12:05:18 AM
Okay...no more speculation please. Move along!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on February 16, 2011, 12:29:23 PM
Well now with offical CBS confirmation of both the Express Pass and Automatic U Turn.....it probably means that both teams were on the later flight, that arrived earlier. At least the Automatic U Turn team was. If Phil does in fact hand out the Express Pass at the faux Pit Stop on the beach....bet it sure upsets the 8 teams on the first flight that had to stopover in Honolulu, that were planning on winning it.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kiki on February 16, 2011, 12:40:35 PM
Well now with offical CBS confirmation of both the Express Pass and Automatic U Turn.....it probably means that both teams were on the later flight, that arrived earlier. At least the Automatic U Turn team was. If Phil does in fact hand out the Express Pass at the faux Pit Stop on the beach....bet it sure upsets the 8 teams on the first flight that had to stopover in Honolulu, that were planning on winning it.



If that article is correct then we have to assume that Gary-Mallory won the Express Pass, although if I remember from another post, someone asked them if they had won it and they denied it, not that they necessarily told the truth.
The question that arises from that article for me is: Which team received the Automatic U-Turn? The one who finished the starting line last, meaning one of the three in the non-delayed flight, or the last team to the faux Pit Stop, meaning the Cowboys?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 16, 2011, 12:41:45 PM
Good question kikisak, the article says the last team to arrive at the mat. To me this indicates the "fake PS" since he calls it a mat not a PitStop.

I think the U-turn will be enforced in Broken Hill b/c Coutzy said there is no Detour in Leg 1. However if Krimanda is eliminated in BH then the Cowboys who arrived last at the midway must be the first team to overcome the Uturn, a point that TPTB will probably enjoy and promote.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on February 16, 2011, 12:45:32 PM
Yes good questions.......but then again.......they could hand the Express Pass out at BrokenHill......the first real pit stop. Lots of unspoiled stuff to look for on Sunday night.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 16, 2011, 12:53:23 PM
Remember...Express Passes are given to the winners of a leg. :angel
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Slowhatch on February 16, 2011, 01:11:56 PM
Quote from: AP, via Peach
In the premiere, Keoghan informs the players that the last team to arrive on the mat will automatically face a U-turn, forcing the duo to perform both Detour challenges, while first-place finishers will receive the Express Pass, allowing a team to skip one task during the race.
That doesn't sound good; the reason the Speed Bumps were so short and easy is that any delay longer than 10-15 minutes will effectively bump a team off the race.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 16, 2011, 01:20:11 PM
Yeah, this is tough. Not as bad as a start line elimination...but still.   It is more about the Automatic U-Turn we picked up in the promos, slowhatch.


Hmmm...

One thing I have learned from doing the caps is that we see certain shots for a reason...clues if you like.

This season appears to be no different.  ;)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on February 16, 2011, 08:09:35 PM
I was just looking at Lijiang, China on Google Earth after reading Apskip's info on the map thread. I didn't realize that Lijiang was at such a high elevation, about 7900 feet (2400 m for you non US people). The timeline refers to a possible  detour/roadblock involving local Naxi customs. There are Naxi villages nearby to Lijiang that are at an even higher elevation. If they do much running around on foot or vigorous activity, there's going to be some very tired racers. Especially the more out of shape racers.  :iok Following that up, Kunming is at around 6000 feet (1800 m). The tiredness will probably accumulate even more on that leg. That's just something to think about later on when we get to those legs of the race.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: JETandCORDfan on February 16, 2011, 08:48:26 PM
I am sure teams like the cowboys and the globetrotters won't be effected as much as some teams might considering that they are athletes....
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on February 16, 2011, 09:11:42 PM
I am sure teams like the cowboys and the globetrotters won't be effected as much as some teams might considering that they are athletes....

Good point. I agree it will be less of a problem for the Cowboys and especially the Globetrotters. I was thinking more of people like Mel who is about 70 if I'm not mistaken and Vyxsyn who was apparently wiped out at the end of the first leg in Sydney.

I've also done some more digging about the news releases today that mention interacting with animals in China. I found a tour company that includes as a part of a visit  to Lijiang a trip to a site called Yak Meadow on Jade Dragon Snow Mountain near Lijiang. The purpose is to see yaks. That sounds like a natural for TAR. I haven't been able to pin down the exact location of Yak Meadow (it probably had a Chinese name and Yak Meadow is the name given for English speaking tourists), but the meadow is likely at an even higher elevation. According to Google Earth, Jade Dragon Snow Mountain is over 16,000 feet (5000 m) high, but I'm sure the Meadow will be WAY down the mountain from the summit.

I'm still looking for animal attractions at Kunming, but so far all I've found is a mention of a butterfly zoo and a regular zoo (perhaps the same place). You could interact with almost any animal in a zoo, so that will be harder to figure out.

Update:

After finding a few pictures and a review of the Kunming Zoo, I'm doubtful it would be used. The review and one picture show an old fashioned zoo with small cages that have concrete floors, not a more modern style with enclosures that have access to the outdoors with grass and dirt. Most of the pictures show peacock like birds, but I did see one white tiger and their website mentions pandas.

I think the Yaks in the Lijiang area are the best bet.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on February 16, 2011, 09:16:10 PM
I suspect the least altitude affected racer will be Margie Adams........she lives in Denver and is a runner. I dont know where Luke lives now, but if he is back in Denver, he should adapt well. Short burst athletes dont do well with sudden change in altitude.......that means the Cowboys. Globes should be okay.......their year round basketball game will help them adapt faster. Any other runners will adapt quicker too.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on February 16, 2011, 09:47:01 PM
I found a little more information about Yak Meadow. Here are some pictures and information at http://yeschinatour.com/china-guides/china-attractions/yak-meadow-lijiang/ (http://yeschinatour.com/china-guides/china-attractions/yak-meadow-lijiang/) and more information at http://wikitravel.org/en/Lijiang (http://wikitravel.org/en/Lijiang). It looks gorgeous and something like the Alps. It is apparently about 40 miles (60 km) from Lijiang so it would probably take a minimum of an hour travel time each way. It's served by bus partway and a tram up the rest of the way to the Meadow at about 11,000 feet (3500 m). It sounds like if they go there, it would take at least 3-4 hours of time to get there, do a roadblock/detour and return. I'm not sure they would do that. Perhaps they can arrange to have yaks brought in somewhere closer.

Yak Meadow is inhabited by Tibetan people and the pictures I find of it on Google Earth look more like Tibet. There are a couple of monasteries and temples and there are prayer flags in places that look like ones I've seen pictures of on Mount Everest. There is also a boardwalk/walking trail that is probably about a mile and a half to two miles long. However, I have to wonder how much snow would be up there in late November, so the possibility of snow that high up may have ruled out a trip to Yak Meadow.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Jobby on February 16, 2011, 10:24:35 PM
I suspect the least altitude affected racer will be Margie Adams........she lives in Denver and is a runner. I dont know where Luke lives now, but if he is back in Denver, he should adapt well. Short burst athletes dont do well with sudden change in altitude.......that means the Cowboys. Globes should be okay.......their year round basketball game will help them adapt faster. Any other runners will adapt quicker too.

Kisha and Jen, Cara and Jaime should be okay. Ron and Gary... oh dear. :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: narupley on February 16, 2011, 10:36:23 PM
Remember...Express Passes are given to the winners of a leg. :angel

That's speculation right? I mean, there has only been one other Express Pass ever given out, and there isn't any confirmed rules from TPTB regarding the conditions for awarding one (unless I'm wrong). Realistically, the producers could choose to give one out for whatever reason they deem would make for good television!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: JETandCORDfan on February 16, 2011, 10:38:16 PM
I am sorry but what is TPTB

The production crew?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 16, 2011, 10:39:57 PM
No...it is not speculation. ;)

TPTB=The Powers That Be
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on February 16, 2011, 11:23:18 PM
I think we can safely assume that the rules for the Express Pass are unchanged from TAR 17I think we won't fully know how the automatic U-Turn works until the episode airs, because of past experience with new game elements not being fully explained before the season begins to air.

I think the idea of going up to the Yak Meadow in the mountains outside Lijiang wouldn't be much different that having tasks in the Andes or the Alps, or even the Canadian Rockies. Teams have frequently had to travel an hour each way to locales for tasks in the past, and I don't see any reason why that would be different now. And let's not forget the HD camera capturing the locales.

As to the altitude issue, we can't be totally sure which teams haven't lived for a time in high altitudes in their pasts, and current residence doesn't really resolve that question by itself.  Since there are two legs in the Lijiang area, it's possible the higher altitudes tasks are on the second leg, just to give teams a chance to adapt to the higher altitudes; that is sort of what TPTB have done in the past with other legs that were in mountainous areas, or teams were provided transport to get to their tasks.

That's my $.02 anyhow.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on February 17, 2011, 09:15:30 AM
The altitude of Lijiang itself is 7000 feet, which would not by itself require major acclimatizing. The Yak Meadow goes up to 10,920 feet, which is above the point where acclimatization is desirable (I had a bad experience with altitude sickness traveling up to the Jungfraujoch railway station which is only 11,332 feet).

the schnauzers, where does your information on 2 episodes in the Lijiang area come from? What I see in our TIMELINE thread is the second half of episode 4 and possibly beginning of episode 5 involving tasks in Lijiang. Episode 4 starts with flights from Tokyo to Kunming plus a lengthy rail trip from Kunming to Lijiang first  and episode 5 also involves a train trip back to Kunming, then flying to Kolkata. I do not view that  "2 episodes in Lijiang" although I guess it is possible to do so.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 17, 2011, 09:27:24 AM
I suspect the least altitude affected racer will be Margie Adams........she lives in Denver and is a runner. I dont know where Luke lives now, but if he is back in Denver, he should adapt well. Short burst athletes dont do well with sudden change in altitude.......that means the Cowboys. Globes should be okay.......their year round basketball game will help them adapt faster. Any other runners will adapt quicker too.

I don't know how much physical activity they will have to do, but I have been at these elevations on multiple occasions and not suffered adverse effects. While at this altitude I participated in hiking and climbing etc. without becoming any more short of breath than normal. I can only remember a handful of instances on the Race when someone had serious trouble with altitude and/or physical activity.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 17, 2011, 09:28:38 AM
Remember...Express Passes are given to the winners of a leg. :angel

That's speculation right? I mean, there has only been one other Express Pass ever given out, and there isn't any confirmed rules from TPTB regarding the conditions for awarding one (unless I'm wrong). Realistically, the producers could choose to give one out for whatever reason they deem would make for good television!

I agree, but Peach is probably right.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: countryboy270 on February 17, 2011, 10:04:01 AM
Don't know if it has been posted, but here is a new article about the amazing race in my local newspaper (Go Gary and Mal!)
http://www.ucadvocate.com/articles/stories/public/201102/16/04Wz_local_news.html
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Slowhatch on February 17, 2011, 10:16:27 AM
Quote from: Advocate, via CountryBoy
Over 2,000 people work on the amazing race, with each team of two traveling with a camera operator, sound operator and safety expert
That's a new wrinkle; I knew about the cameraman and soundman, but I didn't know each team ran with a safety person.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 17, 2011, 10:31:20 AM
Quote from: Advocate, via CountryBoy
Over 2,000 people work on the amazing race, with each team of two traveling with a camera operator, sound operator and safety expert
That's a new wrinkle; I knew about the cameraman and soundman, but I didn't know each team ran with a safety person.

I thought this was new, maybe they are trying to emphasize safety now. This person may also be trained in CPR or something.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on February 17, 2011, 07:02:10 PM
Quote from: Advocate, via CountryBoy
Over 2,000 people work on the amazing race, with each team of two traveling with a camera operator, sound operator and safety expert
That's a new wrinkle; I knew about the cameraman and soundman, but I didn't know each team ran with a safety person.

I thought this was new, maybe they are trying to emphasize safety now. This person may also be trained in CPR or something.

I suspect that means that either the cameraman or the soundman or both have had some safety training now. You could easily require a safety course and a CPR/First Aid course and have them get it done in a couple of days.  We do that where I work in a single day, but their course might have to be a bit more rigorous than what we need for our desk jobs. Given that it's already a tight squeeze to get the racers, the soundman, the cameraman and their gear into a cab, I doubt they could add a safety person and get them all into a cab.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on February 17, 2011, 07:10:19 PM
I suspect the least altitude affected racer will be Margie Adams........she lives in Denver and is a runner. I dont know where Luke lives now, but if he is back in Denver, he should adapt well. Short burst athletes dont do well with sudden change in altitude.......that means the Cowboys. Globes should be okay.......their year round basketball game will help them adapt faster. Any other runners will adapt quicker too.

I don't know how much physical activity they will have to do, but I have been at these elevations on multiple occasions and not suffered adverse effects. While at this altitude I participated in hiking and climbing etc. without becoming any more short of breath than normal. I can only remember a handful of instances on the Race when someone had serious trouble with altitude and/or physical activity.

I wasn't suggesting that anyone would have serious medical issues. I just thought that may find themselves seriously winded and not able to do much more than walk instead of run. I recall as a teenager being at 8000 feet and helping to chase my cousin's horse that got loose from it's enclosure. I was fine running around with everyone at first, but after about 10 minutes, I hit the wall and had to stop and sit down for a bit. It wasn't a medical issue of any seriousness, but if I had been racing, I would have lost valuable time. I agree that the trained athletes and experienced runners probably will not have any issues, but it did affect a fat out of shape kid like me.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 17, 2011, 08:21:44 PM
Quote from: Advocate, via CountryBoy
Over 2,000 people work on the amazing race, with each team of two traveling with a camera operator, sound operator and safety expert
That's a new wrinkle; I knew about the cameraman and soundman, but I didn't know each team ran with a safety person.

They don't.

This is clearly a "lost in translation" edit...

TAR has an extraordinary world class security team in place which I am sure is ever present. But no, not one person running the legs with a team...can you imagine trying to fit one more person in the backseat of those cars?? :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 17, 2011, 08:34:24 PM
I think Plaidmoon's explanation is what it actually means. The article is trying to say either that one of them is a "safety expert" or talking about this team. It is really poorly worded though.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: walkingpneumonia on February 19, 2011, 01:38:08 PM
From here ( http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,24557.msg589789.html#msg589789 ) we know:
Quote
Season 18 has more medical treatments than Season 17, with the medical crew taking competitors to hospitals for stitches and hypothermia.

And from here ( http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23390.msg585567.html#msg585567 ) we know that...
Quote
Tokyo, Japan, where they must endure the freezing waters from Mount Fuji as part of a spiritual ritual.

Which leads me to speculate that someone - perhaps Mel and Mike White - get eliminated in a hospital in Japan where they are being treated for hypothermia...
Has Phil ever gone to a hospital to eliminate someone?
I believe there was a hospital elimination in TAR Israel...

BTW - do the teams travel to Oshino Hakkai - the 8 pools. I thought we knew where they went but I don't see it posted anywhere...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 20, 2011, 01:45:40 AM
^^ Fuji=hypothermia.  :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on February 20, 2011, 02:20:27 AM
:o :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: LoveRocked on February 20, 2011, 03:18:57 AM
 :ascared  :'( :'(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 21, 2011, 01:43:59 PM
I dont know if this has been discussed yet, but during the intro yesterday Margie and Luke were shown doing a task which looks it was clearly in India. This suggests they survive untill one of the two India legs.
(http://i56.[banned image hosting site].com/b4ymhu.jpg)
Nope, this one from the intro is in Sydney ^^
(http://i51.[banned image hosting site].com/2chs7tj.jpg)
They are wearing the same thing in both pics.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 21, 2011, 01:57:36 PM
I have the Intro now and will do caps later on!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Peace, Love, TAR! :D on February 21, 2011, 02:06:26 PM
I dont know if this has been discussed yet, but during the intro yesterday Margie and Luke were shown doing a task which looks it was clearly in India. This suggests they survive untill one of the two India legs.
(http://i56.[banned image hosting site].com/b4ymhu.jpg)
Nope, this one from the intro is in Sydney ^^
(http://i51.[banned image hosting site].com/2chs7tj.jpg)
They are wearing the same thing in both pics.

I was just wondering, what makes this look like India?  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 21, 2011, 02:09:32 PM
PLT: I don't know. All I know is that Margie and Luke are wearing the same clothes in both pics. The first I capped out of the intro; the second one I capped out of episode one, when they were running out of the airport.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Peace, Love, TAR! :D on February 21, 2011, 02:13:28 PM
PLT: I don't know. All I know is that Margie and Luke are wearing the same clothes in both pics. The first I capped out of the intro; the second one I capped out of episode one, when they were running out of the airport.

 :js: That's true... Actually, don't all the intros have the racers in Sydney?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 21, 2011, 02:14:08 PM
:js: That's true... Actually, don't all the intros have the racers in Sydney?

Either that or the starting line.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on February 21, 2011, 02:35:46 PM
I'll be a little more specific here since in this thread we can reference spoilers.  In watching the totally revamped intro last night (I did replay it a couple of times afterward), it seemed to me that almost every clip (or just about all of them) are new; that is to say, even the clips of most of the world landmarks used before seem to be new material and not recycled from the SD-era intro. One for instance, is the Christ The Redeemer statute in Rio.

I recognize that some of the images were recycled (such as the one castle shot), but everything's been re-edited, and I got the impression that all of the Racer action clips are new.  I am sad to see the retirement of that opening CGI passenger jet, I've always thought that was a cool image, and I hate to see it gone.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: slayton on February 21, 2011, 05:14:43 PM
I think production really botched it with the Automatic U-Turn.

They should have had either no Automatic U-Turn or Automatic U-Turns for the last two teams because, as many of us know, every team that has ever had to perform a non-Double U-Turn has been eliminated (in the US version).

The only time that a U-Turned team avoided elimination was when two teams had to do the Double U-Turn, and, because there wasn't a double elimination on that leg, one of those two teams was going to avoid elimination.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 12:03:24 PM
At 0.29 on this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAWg-FjFZes

It is clearly Luke and its in India one would presume.

I didn't realize what you were talking about.
That may be Luke, now that you mention it.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 12:06:43 PM
Does anybody think this looks like Luke?
(http://i54.[banned image hosting site].com/2nu3u46.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 12:09:45 PM
Could this be anybody?
(http://i54.[banned image hosting site].com/15z4j7p.jpg)
(http://i53.[banned image hosting site].com/2ro2gbs.jpg)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 12:15:22 PM
In my opinion I have a gut feeling that is not a racer but was part of a challenge. Looks like its in China.

You mean the bike pics?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on February 22, 2011, 12:16:34 PM
At 0.29 on this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAWg-FjFZes

It is clearly Luke and its in India one would presume.

If Luke is in that boat, I couldnt tell. Do you really think Luke is going to do some kind of music task? The tamborine beater looks 100% South Asian to me.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 12:18:55 PM
If Luke is in that boat, I couldnt tell. Do you really think Luke is going to do some kind of music task? The tamborine beater looks 100% South Asian to me.

What boat do you mean, Doc?
It must be a music RB.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 12:19:51 PM
In my opinion I have a gut feeling that is not a racer but was part of a challenge. Looks like its in China.

You mean the bike pics?

Yes I do, like when they show Phil saying what the tams have to do they usually have a local doing something, thats what it looks like.

You can see several other locations TAR:UB visits in the intro, such as Mount Fuji, Broken Hill, Jade Rooster Archway(?), etc.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 12:25:45 PM
(http://i54.[banned image hosting site].com/10duphs.jpg)
How's the comparison look?

I really can't decide.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on February 22, 2011, 12:37:33 PM
At 0.29 on this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAWg-FjFZes

It is clearly Luke and its in India one would presume.

If Luke is in that boat, I couldnt tell. Do you really think Luke is going to do some kind of music task? The tamborine beater looks 100% South Asian to me.


What boat?? It could be a detour. Luke isnt a guy to shy away from any task.

Just before Kisha/Jenn........in that promo, are a bunch of people in a boat with a lot of seaguls. Right after Kisha/Jenn is the pic of the guy with the tamborine. Then the old wise man. When I posted, I didnt know which of these three pics from Inida you were talking about. IF that is Luke dressed up, beating on a tamborine, then he sure got a tan fast.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 12:40:07 PM
This:

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=24761.0;attach=171065;image)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on February 22, 2011, 12:55:06 PM
This:

(http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=24761.0;attach=171065;image)

I think this pic is from the Kolkata leg.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 22, 2011, 02:18:58 PM
I don't think that is Luke in any of the pics...and it would be rare for the Intro caps to nclude racers doing a task, they are more location oriented. More boats and gulls in the Intro caps.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 02:35:16 PM
we know the spiritual ritual involves freezing water.

Quote
Kanchu Misogi is a traditional midwinter festival of purification that is still practiced in Japan today. The event includes a ritual called mizugori, where participants are poured with ice cold water for purification and good fortune

http://www.dailyonigiri.com/category/culture-tradition/

I don't know if you have seen this article:
http://www.jaunted.com/story/2011/1/26/231051/907/travel/Cowboys,+B-Ballers+and+Former+NFL+Cheerleaders+Return+for+%27Amazing+Race%27+All+Stars

But it says they have to swim in the water, who knows if they know what they are talking about or not...
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 02:41:26 PM
Well this is encouraging:
Quote
The diversity of water rituals in Japan is phenomenal. The ways in which water is used, and the ends sought, are numerous. One can find somewhere in Japan a water ritual to provide the relief or the assurance desired for almost any event in one's life. An easy birth, a healthy baby, recovery from illness, success in an examination or in a new job, a propitious outcome to moving house, more money, good eyesight, longevity, peace, wisdom and revelation -- each can be had by the proper use of water.
Perhaps they will go with the "more money" version! :funny:


Teppozu Shrine is mentioned several times in conjunction with water rituals and Mt. Fuji.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on February 22, 2011, 02:55:04 PM
Just some thoughts on the comments about racers doing an animal task in China........in China Rush, they had to herd those cranes in Kunming.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 22, 2011, 02:59:00 PM
Jaunted does a good job and the info would have been from a CBS press release, so we should pay attention until we get something different.

Quote
"Amazing Race: Unfinished Business" will bring the racers across five continents and 23 cities, including Sydney, where they will swim with the sharks, and Tokyo, where they'll swim in freezing Mt. Fuji water."
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 22, 2011, 04:47:13 PM
Peach who could that be in the screen caps?

Locals??
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 05:22:20 PM
ya but one is to believe that is from India and the person is "causcasian".

When looking at the comparison cap, it doesn't really look like Luke.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: chill_sd on February 22, 2011, 07:07:37 PM
I don't think that is Luke, but I do see a white cowboy hat in the background.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 07:08:27 PM
I don't think that is Luke, but I do see a white cowboy hat in the background.

Can you show us?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: chill_sd on February 22, 2011, 07:15:22 PM
I don't think that is Luke, but I do see a white cowboy hat in the background.

Can you show us?

Cowboy Hat:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: connayyy on February 22, 2011, 07:15:34 PM
Peach who could that be in the screen caps?

Locals??

ya but one is to believe that is from India and the person is "causcasian".

The person actually looks quite South Asian, he just happens to be pretty pale, so I'm pretty sure it's a local. I'm not sure that it's in India, either.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 07:16:19 PM
I don't think that is Luke, but I do see a white cowboy hat in the background.

Can you show us?

Cowboy Hat:

He's African American!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Snooky on February 22, 2011, 07:24:18 PM
I don't think that is Luke, but I do see a white cowboy hat in the background.

Can you show us?

Cowboy Hat:

He's African American!
I doubt he's American. He's probably from some other country.   :res:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 22, 2011, 07:26:51 PM
I doubt he's American. He's probably from some other country.   :res:

You know what I mean.   :carryon:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on February 22, 2011, 11:39:48 PM
I'm pretty certain that last pic is Brazil.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 23, 2011, 08:16:48 AM
The South America line of thinking is convincing to me.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on February 23, 2011, 12:16:52 PM
The far bottom right is the face of a dark-skinned man. I would be surprised if there was a racer in that shot.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 23, 2011, 09:09:45 PM
That looks like either its jet or cord (the cowboy hat) and that pic is for sure in India, looks to the far bottom right.

The cowboy hat looks more like a Gaucho(?) style hat to me (no upturned brims) ...and that is def ZOT Jet or Cord in that pic. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Plaidmoon on February 23, 2011, 09:29:58 PM
That looks like either its jet or cord (the cowboy hat) and that pic is for sure in India, looks to the far bottom right.

The cowboy hat looks more like a Gaucho(?) style hat to me (no upturned brims) ...and that is def ZOT Jet or Cord in that pic. :lol:

I tried lightening up that picture and tinkering with the contrast and the guy in the cowboy hat still looks like he has a dark complexion and not a light complexion like Jet or Cord. It does not look like Luke to me either. I think it must have been taken in Brazil and is at a samba dance task of some kind.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 27, 2011, 09:39:25 AM
Gotta love a spoiling Phil. :lol:


Speaking with eOnline, Phil revealed which racers would be the villains this season.

 
Quote
“Well, there was a lot of conflict between Luke and the other girls.  Margie and Luke had a bit of an issue with Kisha and Jen in China.

Quote
Phil said that Ron has changed the most.


Quote
  “The Globetrotters “Flight Time” & “Big Easy” are the team that I would probably say of everybody there is the most inspirational.


Quote
Kent and Vyxsin are also no pushovers. They’re pretty sneaky!

Quote
I assure you that there is tension and a little bit of jostling for power. I think I can leave it to your judgment as to who those teams are. There’s always going to be tension, and I will leave it to you to whether to classify if the behavior is villainous. There’s certainly lots of tension.”


http://realitytvmagazine.sheknows.com/2011/02/26/the-amazing-race-host-phil-keoghan-talks-about-the-new-season/
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: franxaverian on February 27, 2011, 07:31:41 PM
Peach, I believe Phil is referring Luke's issue in season 14 before,
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/amazing_race/recaps/1409/recaps.php. It was really intense that time

However, it would be really unwise for them to re-enact their feud again...

Actually after seeing the teams, I'm leaning towards a father/mother-son/daughter(F/M-S/D) teams winning this season...Last season we have seen 4 all-female teams in one season which was kinda a 'first' in TAR history and now, there are 4 F/M-S/D teams in one season. This might be the reason why Toni/Dallas is not included in this race...otherwise it would show how badly they want a F/M-S/D to win this race. Gallory I reckon... :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 27, 2011, 07:34:15 PM
Ohhh. darn...no conflict in China this time?? :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: franxaverian on February 27, 2011, 09:02:20 PM
It's still a possibility that they are going to clash once again in China and maybe they even show the feud from season 14 to remind us...still have many places for them to clash.... :lol:

:roo for tonight's episode...

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on February 28, 2011, 12:38:15 AM
Phil's video diary shows him leaving Shelly Beach and going to the airport to catch the 6:20 pm Rex flight ZL878 to Broken Hill on Nov 22. So he got to get a bed there that night. It shows him flying back to Sydney. He talks about catching the flight to Tokyo. But here is the fly in the ointment. The reg daily flight from Broken Hill to Sydney is at 630 am. The two charters the teams flew on left at 8:50 am and 9:30 am after they dropped off the teams. The next flight from Broken Hill to Sydney is at 630am on Nov 24 ZL877. If it had been on time, he might could have made JL772 leaving Sydney for Narita at 9:20 am. But it was late in arriving in Sydney and he would have ended up on same flight with teams on the Qantas 21 flight.

Looks like Phil left Broken Hill on Rex Regional ZL863 @ 1325 to Dubbo and then from there on same flight number to Sydney. Arriving at 1705 with plenty of time to catch QF21 to Narita. Dubbo is a town between Broken Hill and Sydney. It is on the same highway and the train passes through there too on the way to Sydney.

So it looks like he was in Narita starting a nice day off before teams even arrived in Sydney on the train.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on February 28, 2011, 12:55:01 AM
Hmmm...I think there may have been another chartered flight for production?? Seems like someone told me something about production flying out that night, about the time the teams were heading to the trains. Will look later.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on February 28, 2011, 01:08:30 AM
Well I wont argue with you Peach, but in the video....it is very bright sunshine. More like mid day when Phil says "they" are leaving to catch flight to Japan. Flight Stats shows no direct flights from Broken Hill to Sydney after 9:30 am on the 23rd.

Flight ZL863 leaves Broken Hill at 1:25 pm and makes a stop in Dubbo, then continues on to Sydney after 20 minutes on the ground.

If Production left around 6 pm....it was probably ZL4833 to Alelaide. From there one late night flight and 2 early morning flights to Sydney to connect with JL772 to Japan @ 9:20 am on Nov 24. They would land in Narita before the teams left Sydney.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Cocoa on March 21, 2011, 04:38:48 AM
How about a finale task that has something to do with clue-givers? Like

Leg 1: Commodore
Leg 2: Spirit World Lady*
Leg 3: Frog of Luck Man*
Leg 4: Either one of the Zodiac Men
Leg 5: Paleontologist

*Though I think this task is not gonna be the finale task. It would be unfair for Detour choices such as these. :lol:

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: slayton on March 21, 2011, 06:57:18 PM
I can't find the interview right now, but I remember Phil saying that teams were going to be shocked by how sneaky (an)other team(s) was, and it looks like he was referring to Kent & Vyxsin because Phil responded to a tweet with this:
Quote
Yes, things get very interesting between K & V and the other teams.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Reilly Queens on March 21, 2011, 06:59:08 PM
How about a finale task that has something to do with clue-givers? Like

Leg 1: Commodore
Leg 2: Spirit World Lady*
Leg 3: Frog of Luck Man*
Leg 4: Either one of the Zodiac Men
Leg 5: Paleontologist

*Though I think this task is not gonna be the finale task. It would be unfair for Detour choices such as these. :lol:



Leg 3 could be the samurai man at the rb?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: coolio on March 21, 2011, 07:07:07 PM
How about a finale task that has something to do with clue-givers? Like

Leg 1: Commodore
Leg 2: Spirit World Lady*
Leg 3: Frog of Luck Man*
Leg 4: Either one of the Zodiac Men
Leg 5: Paleontologist

*Though I think this task is not gonna be the finale task. It would be unfair for Detour choices such as these. :lol:




Didn't both Leg 2 options have the same dressed person as a clue-giver?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Shiryu01 on March 22, 2011, 07:09:43 PM
I'm not sure if this has already been posted/discussed, but I just read it and thought it could be interesting.

Interviewed here: http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-mel-white-talks-the-amazing-race-unfinished-business--12053.php after his elimination, Mel said this about Ron and Christina

Quote
Mel White: Well, we both really learned to love [Ron Hsu] and Christina. They did some silly things on the Race, but they're very lovable people and amusing and fun to be with

Now, I'm just guessing (speculating ^^) but since Mel and Mike were eliminated pretty early in the race, I don't think they could have had many chances to "learn to love" R&C. But this could be the case if they spent some time together at Elimination Station. IF the assumption is correct, Ron and Chris will be eliminated fairly soon, as later teams no longer go to ES but are kept with production.

Just my two cents (well, pence  :lol:) anyway.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: kiki on March 23, 2011, 12:34:07 AM
In the previous races there were usually three NELs. If we suppose that in this race the NELs have been replaced with KRLs then we should have one more of those. So far the KRLs happened in the same country, now the only country that has two legs is India, but somehow I don't think that we are going to see a KRL in Kolkatta. I thing that both Indian legs will be normal elimination legs and that the last KRL, if it exists, will be the Vienna-Luxemburg-Zermaat combination. All three places are very close to each other and there are frequent and regular trains between them.
Another factor, so far both KRLs contained a train ride.

Of course all these are just speculation and TPTB might surprises again.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on March 23, 2011, 02:50:40 AM
In the previous races there were usually three NELs. If we suppose that in this race the NELs have been replaced with KRLs then we should have one more of those. So far the KRLs happened in the same country, now the only country that has two legs is India, but somehow I don't think that we are going to see a KRL in Kolkatta. I thing that both Indian legs will be normal elimination legs and that the last KRL, if it exists, will be the Vienna-Luxemburg-Zermaat combination. All three places are very close to each other and there are frequent and regular trains between them.
Another factor, so far both KRLs contained a train ride.

Of course all these are just speculation and TPTB might surprises again.

As per  :angel Kolkatta is an elimination leg, and there's still going to be a Normal NEL this season
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on March 23, 2011, 02:55:07 AM
The final NEL is imo Leg 9.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on March 23, 2011, 08:13:26 AM
This clue is Fast-forward?The clue looks green.
Sadly...no FF.

I think they are basically phasing out the FF at this point, who knows if we'll even see one this season.

Can anyone confirm that there will be a regular NEL at some point?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on March 23, 2011, 09:48:23 AM
I'm not sure if this has already been posted/discussed, but I just read it and thought it could be interesting.

Interviewed here: http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-mel-white-talks-the-amazing-race-unfinished-business--12053.php after his elimination, Mel said this about Ron and Christina

Quote
Mel White: Well, we both really learned to love [Ron Hsu] and Christina. They did some silly things on the Race, but they're very lovable people and amusing and fun to be with

Now, I'm just guessing (speculating ^^) but since Mel and Mike were eliminated pretty early in the race, I don't think they could have had many chances to "learn to love" R&C. But this could be the case if they spent some time together at Elimination Station. IF the assumption is correct, Ron and Chris will be eliminated fairly soon, as later teams no longer go to ES but are kept with production.

Just my two cents (well, pence  :lol:) anyway.

Nooooo.... lol they could be hinting something else, you'll never know.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Lucybell on March 24, 2011, 08:49:38 AM
All I Can say is dont count your chickens yet.I have some sources 50% realiable,but I don't want to be wrong.I'll wait till after next leg to post it.

Could you at least post it in speculation?  It might really help with the spoiling process this week.  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Lucybell on March 24, 2011, 09:01:06 AM
We can speculate right here Lucybell! Once the episode thread is open, we try to keep everything together. So spec away!! :yess:

Thanks Peach!  :tup:

OK Since she stated, 'Don't count your chickens before they hatch' in reference to Marge and Luke (Zev/Justin and Ron/Christina, as well) possibly eliminated this week, I assume that the information she obtained might be a Luke & Marge win this season?  :duno:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on March 24, 2011, 09:04:20 AM
I don't think anybody at all knows who won TAR:UB. If you click on the links that woden placed in this week's timeline, you can see that all teams except Zev\Justin, Margie\Luke, and Ron\Chris have been spotted past this leg, which is why the status of those three teams is uncertain.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on March 24, 2011, 09:16:05 AM
This is not the place for wishlists.

Those can go here:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15213.0.html
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: AmazingRace on March 24, 2011, 09:20:12 AM
This is not the place for wishlists.

Those can go here:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,15213.0.html

Whoops. I am sorry.  :-[
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on March 24, 2011, 09:23:32 AM
:kuss:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: slayton on March 24, 2011, 06:00:42 PM
Someone might have brought this up already, but I'm starting to believe that any final memory challenge is going to deal with animals.

Leg 1: Aquatic animals
Leg 2: Kangaroo
Leg 3: Kintarō Statue bear
Leg 4: Yak/Chinese Zodiac
Leg 5: Dinosaur
Leg 6: Ganesha (elephant)

(If TPTB decided to make it more difficult like everything else in TAR18, I wouldn't be surprised if they decided on a multi-layered memory roadblock, where there are no notes allowed, and each racer would have to identify all the animals, all the uniforms that each greeter was wearing with only images of the uniform itself and no faces or bodies of the greeters, and an extra layer on top of those two.)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on March 24, 2011, 06:31:34 PM
This is actually very plausible, slayton! It will be interesting if what they really do is close to some of the spec on here.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: sweffilou on March 24, 2011, 08:13:15 PM

(If TPTB decided to make it more difficult like everything else in TAR18, I wouldn't be surprised if they decided on a multi-layered memory roadblock, where there are no notes allowed, and each racer would have to identify all the animals, all the uniforms that each greeter was wearing with only images of the uniform itself and no faces or bodies of the greeters, and an extra layer on top of those two.)

Or maybe something similar to the memory task from tar12???
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on March 24, 2011, 08:43:30 PM
Given that the Racers have had a task already this season that expressly prohibited them from using notes, the possibility of such a requirement as part of a final task would make sense.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Dånooky on March 24, 2011, 11:36:06 PM
Given that the Racers have had a task already this season that expressly prohibited them from using notes, the possibility of such a requirement as part of a final task would make sense.
The difference was that in the task on Leg 5 they were not allowed to take notes. If they wanted to forbid the teams from using their own notes at the final memory challenge they could always confiscate them.
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 25, 2011, 12:17:08 AM
Or then again, they could choose not to even have a final memory challenge.... :res:

TAR 12 and the flag one still live on as the best and most challenging ones ever...for me.
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Post by: Puppet on March 25, 2011, 03:20:33 AM
I like TAR 11's challenge whereby you key the code into the safe! :lol:
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Post by: Zack. on March 25, 2011, 12:17:17 PM
Or then again, they could choose not to even have a final memory challenge.... :res:

TAR 12 and the flag one still live on as the best and most challenging ones ever...for me.

The surfboards were pretty good too, especially since for some legs they picked obscure things (ie the church in leg 1, one of the RB foods in leg '11').
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: slayton on March 27, 2011, 04:19:42 PM
I always like making my final prediction way in advance, and it helps that I have no particular rooting interest this season clouding my judgment. 

Unless the editing was completely revamped, I expect to see Zev & Justin win.  I expect Kent & Vyxsin and Ronald & Christina to make the final 4 and likely the final 3, and even though I wouldn't be surprised by either of these two teams winning, I still see them as long shots.

Based on the editing, I didn't expect Margie & Luke to get far.

My reading of the tea leaves has Gary & Mallory, Herbert & Nathaniel, Kisha & Jen, and Jet & Cord exiting in episodes 7 to 11.

I don't mind being wrong because it would mean that they revamped the way they cut the show, but if I'm on target, then TPTB should really change the way they cut the show starting with TAR19.
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Post by: allie303 on March 27, 2011, 04:52:24 PM
Very interesting predictions Slayton...

If I had to pick a winner, it would be Jen and Kisha or Gary and Mallory. Both have had fairly harmless and positive edits that tend to characterize the winner's edit, IMO.
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Post by: Prophet on March 27, 2011, 05:23:27 PM
I always like making my final prediction way in advance, and it helps that I have no particular rooting interest this season clouding my judgment. 

Unless the editing was completely revamped, I expect to see Zev & Justin win.  I expect Kent & Vyxsin and Ronald & Christina to make the final 4 and likely the final 3, and even though I wouldn't be surprised by either of these two teams winning, I still see them as long shots.

Based on the editing, I didn't expect Margie & Luke to get far.

My reading of the tea leaves has Gary & Mallory, Herbert & Nathaniel, Kisha & Jen, and Jet & Cord exiting in episodes 7 to 11.

I don't mind being wrong because it would mean that they revamped the way they cut the show, but if I'm on target, then TPTB should really change the way they cut the show starting with TAR19.

Your reading of the tea leaves? I don't want to start a who will win argument but I don't agree with your conclusions.
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Post by: jiajia12 on March 27, 2011, 05:58:28 PM
I Dont agree either, i think Kent/Vyx is going soon
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 27, 2011, 06:03:22 PM
I don't want to start a who will win argument

Then don't!!

This is a speculation thread, all speculation is welcomed.
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Post by: Prophet on March 27, 2011, 06:31:54 PM
Ok, if it is alright then I will give my opinion. It's just my opinion and I respect everyone else's opinion about the final and what teams will attend and/or win and am not starting an argument.

I would be quite surprised to see Kisha and Jen, Gary and Mallory, or Jet and Cord eliminated soon. In fact if I had to pick a final three it would probably be these three. Although Ron and Chris could beat the sisters. The cowboys and Gallory performed mostly well in their previous seasons and still seem to be strong competitors this time. I'm not crazy about the editing theory but I would tend to think that the editors are favoring these two teams by portraying them as interesting and positive. Basically though, we can't really tell for certain at this point who might win.
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Post by: Dånooky on March 27, 2011, 09:40:14 PM
At this point, due tot he constant flip-flopping of positions, I think that the teams' fate will be determined by a single task that will be their do-or-die. Therefore, I will eliminate the "previous performance" factor and consider each leg as an independent event.

Based on what Mel & Mike said about getting to know Ron better, I speculate Ron & Christina were sent to ES, and if only teams 4-6 do decoys, that would mean they are eliminated next week.

Now, onto my predictions of F3. Based on screen-time, the most featured teams this season, and those more likely to be on the F3 based on this, IMO are:
Gary & Mallory, Zev & Justin and Kent & Vyxsin

Flight Time & Big Easy have been recently shown to have positive interactions with other teams so far, so they might get a high placement.

Jet & Cord are being edited a bit under-the-radar, and they have the taxi-stealing karma pending on them.

Kisha & Jen are also UTR, but this is due to the editors probably not including their fighting scenes. This could be either, not including them because they are eliminated, or they go for the win unexpectedly. Another thing to consider is that they get the "...Million Dollars" quote shown in the preview and in the episode, the same as with Nat & Kat.

Concluding, I believe the Final 3 are:
Zev & Justin, Kent & Vyxsin and Gallory/Jenkisha
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Kiwi Jay on March 27, 2011, 10:06:59 PM
Did anyone else notice the order that the teams were placed in for the monologue "8 teams remain, who will be eliminated next"

1. Zev and Justin (one to watch, a blogger said)
2. Gary and Mallory (one to watch, a blogger said)
3. Ron and Christina (under the radar)
4. FT and BE (spotted in Rio De Janiero F4?)
5. Kisha and Jen (one to watch, a blogger said)
6. Jet and Cord (spotted in Madrid, en route to Austria F6?)
7. Kent and Vyxsin (last to Elim. Station? Friends with Luke, Amanda etc)
8. Margie and Luke
9. Jamie and Cara
10. Mel and Mike
11. Amanda and Kris
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Post by: Saravannan on March 27, 2011, 11:11:49 PM
Did anyone else notice the order that the teams were placed in for the monologue "8 teams remain, who will be eliminated next"

1. Zev and Justin (one to watch, a blogger said)
2. Gary and Mallory (one to watch, a blogger said)
3. Ron and Christina (under the radar)
4. FT and BE (spotted in Rio De Janiero F4?)
5. Kisha and Jen (one to watch, a blogger said)
6. Jet and Cord (spotted in Madrid, en route to Austria F6?)
7. Kent and Vyxsin (last to Elim. Station? Friends with Luke, Amanda etc)
8. Margie and Luke
9. Jamie and Cara
10. Mel and Mike
11. Amanda and Kris

A bit obvious though, isn't it?

Or it's just my hoping that Jet/Cord make it further :P
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Post by: mike4lyf on March 28, 2011, 12:52:00 AM
Did anyone else notice the order that the teams were placed in for the monologue "8 teams remain, who will be eliminated next"

1. Zev and Justin (one to watch, a blogger said)
2. Gary and Mallory (one to watch, a blogger said)
3. Ron and Christina (under the radar)
4. FT and BE (spotted in Rio De Janiero F4?)
5. Kisha and Jen (one to watch, a blogger said)
6. Jet and Cord (spotted in Madrid, en route to Austria F6?)
7. Kent and Vyxsin (last to Elim. Station? Friends with Luke, Amanda etc)
8. Margie and Luke
9. Jamie and Cara
10. Mel and Mike
11. Amanda and Kris

Where was this?

Cause I DON'T expect to see K/V arrive at Elim station, (going by J/C's interview) and I DO expect R/C  to (going by M/M's interviews)

I have a feeling that Gary and Mallory win, with Kisha and Jen 2nd and Zev and Justin 3rd.
Maybe K/V as the fourth placed (I desperately want them to make it far) and the Cowboys 5th.
Then I would say Globetrotters 6th and finally Ron and Christina 7th.


So my speculation is
1. Gary and Mallory
2. Kisha and Jen
3. Zev and Justin
4. Kent and Vyxsin
5. Jet and Cord
6. Flight time and Big Easy
7. Ron and Christina
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mds1978 on March 28, 2011, 04:53:50 PM
I believe that if the cowboys were truly spotted in the Madrid airport, they must have been en route to the elimination station (in southeast asia).

And I wouldn't place any bets on any team from S14 making it to the F3.
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Post by: Prophet on March 28, 2011, 05:18:34 PM
:welcome2: to RFF, mds1978!
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 28, 2011, 05:23:26 PM
Yeah well that guy also "saw" TK and Rachel so my bet is that could possibly be another false spoiler...

But :welcome: to RFF, mds1978!!
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Post by: theschnauzers on March 28, 2011, 06:05:50 PM
I believe that if the cowboys were truly spotted in the Madrid airport, they must have been en route to the elimination station (in southeast asia).

And I wouldn't place any bets on any team from S14 making it to the F3.

Given from what I understand about where ES was for this season, I doubt a team spotted in Madrid would be headed there. Given what's been speculated about the route for the latter half of this Race, it could be either a flight option others didn't find from point A to point B, or a decoy. I would also speculate that the next leg in India is probably the last elimination for a team headed to ES this time around.
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Post by: DrRox on March 28, 2011, 06:15:27 PM
^Ditto^
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Post by: apskip on March 29, 2011, 09:12:02 AM
I believe that if the cowboys were truly spotted in the Madrid airport, they must have been en route to the elimination station (in southeast asia).

And I wouldn't place any bets on any team from S14 making it to the F3.

mds1978,

I doubt Madrid to Thailand for several reasons:
1. In order to make it past Varanasi, teams go to Vienna, Liechtenstein and then Switzerland. From Vienna, the best flights go direct to Bangkok. From Liechtenstein or Switzerland they go though Zurich.
2. And from Madrid, they also go through Zurich. Why would a team go from Zurich to Madrid to get back to Zurich?  They wouldn't.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: jiajia12 on March 29, 2011, 09:13:49 AM
do Peach know the bootlist already? I don't mind if you know,but it looks like you do :waves:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2011, 09:15:18 AM
It is very strange that the Cowboys were allegedly spotted in Madrid, now that you mention it, apskip. Like Peach said, this is most likely a false sighting since TK and Rachel were seen with them! :lol3:
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mds1978 on March 29, 2011, 03:30:09 PM
@apskip- I see what you're saying and agree, but I also looked up flight schedules and there is a daily non-stop flight from madrid to bangkok. Given that it's not just two racers traveling alone, they might not have been able to get enough seats on the zurich-bkk flight.

It would be helpful to know the time of day they were allegedly spotted, to see if it's in the ballpark time range for the flight out of madrid.

And also, flying via Madrid isn't so out of the way even if they were leaving from Switzerland. Recently I flew to London and had to go through Germany each way, even though it was completely out of the way.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2011, 03:42:43 PM
mds1978, the original discovery can be seen here:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,23690.msg580147.html#msg580147
Please remember that this is not a reliable spoiler.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mds1978 on March 29, 2011, 05:58:22 PM
Hmmm....well I'm no Sherlock Holmes but having just seen this for the first time I have a few thoughts, but mostly questions. Were these people spotted with camera crews in tow? Something must have made them conspicuous other than the obvious.

If so, depending on the date, it doesn't seem like an unreasonable place to be racing since they are in that part of the world supposedly (it's not like the sighting was in africa, canada, middle east, etc). Are the spoilers so solid that there's no room for errors with regard to destinations?

Rather than get caught up in the paralysis by analysis, my first instinct would be to think that if there's any truth to this sighting, then it obviously refers to the cowboys, trotters, and the goths (TK...Kent...really, it's not something a casual fan would necessarily know and you can't fault them for not fact checking the minutiae before tweeting about it). Secondly, if they were eliminated they wouldn't be together...there's at least one day separating each elimination, and once they get cut they don't linger, they go directly to elimination station and linger all they want over there.

For me, what stands out the most is three teams being spotted together. Yeah it's off the map a bit, and yeah the details like names are inaccurate but the big red flags are all right there.

I kinda get depressed just talking about it cause I wish margie and luke were still racing. The thought of the goths still being there after making such colossal blunders just makes me sad.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2011, 06:01:34 PM
Glad you're joining in the discussion, mds1987! :waves:
Here's a fact to keep in mind: the teams did not officially go to Madrid. Yes, the spoilers are that solid because Peach said so. :angel Also, one of the Cowboys allegedly said "TK's right behind us," or something like that. I don't know anything about camera crews.

I was thinking about this particular sighting and it seems like the Cowboys could have been on a decoy run and one of them just said something goofy like this (you know how they are). If it it true what you say about there being a direct flight from Madrid to Bangkok, it could be a possibility.
But all of this is pure speculation.
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Post by: theschnauzers on March 29, 2011, 06:10:29 PM
Unless the Cowboys were eliminated on this next leg in India, it is quite unlikely they would have been at Elimination Station. With 11 teams, and three racing to the finish line, TPTB normally send 5 teams to Sequesterville, and use the last three eliminated teams as decoy teams, who travel with production all the way to the final leg. Decoy teams do some tasks, or appear to, in order to muddy up bystanders who may relay to others using the internet as to what they saw. (Old news, here.) :) I personally share Peach's skepticism about this being a reliable report because of the location and the earlier false reference to TK being on this edition once we knew who the teams actually were.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mds1978 on March 29, 2011, 06:32:54 PM
Well why is so much attention being given to what the cowboy said ("TK is right behind us")...depending on the context, how do we know why it was said or if it has any meaning? I'm sure there were times I've been at the airport when the mcdonalds is about to close, and I probably shouted to whoever I was with "hurry, we have to order NOW or we won't make it!" Or my mom is looking for my dad, who's with me, and yells for him, so I yell back to her "he's right behind me!" Depending on the situation, these quotes are completely meaningless.

What would be weird though is to have someone randomly twitter about seeing cowboys and 7 ft tall basketball players and "hippy" looking people all together while they just so happen to be filming TAR. That seems less of a coincidence to me. That they don't have any alibis around this time or confirmed sightings just further arouses my suspicion.

I just hope that if they were going somewhere together, it's elimination station.

Still bitter about this week's show. I wish the challenge was sponsored by red bull. That way they would have all looked like a bunch of strung out meth addicts after 20 minutes of drinking that stuff. That would have been like amazing race meets requiem for a dream...both with a sad ending. :(
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2011, 06:54:51 PM
Well why is so much attention being given to what the cowboy said ("TK is right behind us")...depending on the context, how do we know why it was said or if it has any meaning? I'm sure there were times I've been at the airport when the mcdonalds is about to close, and I probably shouted to whoever I was with "hurry, we have to order NOW or we won't make it!" Or my mom is looking for my dad, who's with me, and yells for him, so I yell back to her "he's right behind me!" Depending on the situation, these quotes are completely meaningless.

What would be weird though is to have someone randomly twitter about seeing cowboys and 7 ft tall basketball players and "hippy" looking people all together while they just so happen to be filming TAR. That seems less of a coincidence to me. That they don't have any alibis around this time or confirmed sightings just further arouses my suspicion.
I just hope that if they were going somewhere together, it's elimination station.

I agree with a lot of that. You are mixing sightings though, the "tall black men" were seen in south america.
Also livingincm combined a Austria sighting of the trotters in that same post so disregard that.

The rest of it is true, we may need to think outside the box on this one.
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Post by: selkie on March 29, 2011, 07:51:14 PM

Still bitter about this week's show. I wish the challenge was sponsored by red bull. That way they would have all looked like a bunch of strung out meth addicts after 20 minutes of drinking that stuff. That would have been like amazing race meets requiem for a dream...both with a sad ending. :(

Combining Mallory and Red Bull probably would be a really bad idea. 

As for the mystery TK, that could have been a reference to their camera or sound person. I'm sure you need to keep the group together as much as possible, even when they're in an airport where they may not be allowed to film much.

I'm trying to remember the severe weather/labor unrest timelines, and wasn't there some sort of kerfluffle in Madrid Airport about the time of the Cowboys sighting there?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2011, 07:57:52 PM
Drinking large amounts of Red Bull at one time is potentially fatal.
I suppose it is possible that "TK" could refer to a crew member, but teams still did not go to Madrid officially, unless there is a flight connection there.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on March 29, 2011, 08:04:21 PM
Hello mds1978....... :bigwelcome   to RFF!!!

When World Race Productions is actually filming the race, the hot thread around here is the "Live Sightings" Thread. A lot of people around here are constantly searching Twitter and Facebook for each and every mention of The Amazing Race. Do we find them all.....probably not, especially this time.

The Amazing Race-Australia was also filming at this time and there were overlaps in the schedule. Also, The Amazing Race-Asia4 was ending the televising of that season. There are about 250 million Indonesians and I swear that everyone of them has an internet capable cell phone and each one watches the show and comments about either the last episode or the next one. We also had about the last 3-4 episodes of TAR17 going on here and we were doing the same thing then, that we are doing now.....looking at preview and promo screencaps.......so things were pretty busy around here about that time.

Somebody here does look and try to check out each and every sighting we come across. We didnt downplay that Cowboy-Ft/BE sighting in Madrid. At the time, you have to realize, we didnt know where the ES was. Some of us sent tweets to that guy for clairification, but he never answered any of us. That is a big red flag for a fake tweeter right there.

There were no direct flights from Madrid to Bangkok on Dec 5 or Dec 6. There was that flight TG948/949 combo on Dec 7. Bkk to MAD  and then back to BKK. Part of understanding the spoiling of the race depends on what WRP normally does. They do change things up now and again to make things interesting. It would also be impossible for FT/BE easy to be in both Vienna and Madrid at the same time.
 
As the_schnauzers has said, the team that is eliminated in the next episode in Varanasi is probably the last team to go to the ES in Thailand. He has pointed out that normally the 4-6th 6-8th place teams, follow along with the race and do duty as decoys. It is also done for logistics and economics. Usually by the time they get to those eliminations, they are half way around the world and it doesnt make much sense to send them backwards to the ES, then turn them around and fly to the end city. The 5th place team really only spends 2-3 days there as it is, then they are off to the end city for the finale.

Finally, besides all the different versions of TAR, either being filmed or televized at that time, there are also lots of "local" or "corporate" mini versions of TAR being run all over the world at any given time. We have to sort through those too.......If you want to see how we do it, then I would encourage you to read the "TAR18 Live Sightings" Thread from beginning to the end.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on March 29, 2011, 08:07:23 PM
Well said, Doc. You reminded me that TAR:AUS also had a cowboy team running their Race at the same time. :groan:

I just relooked at that particular tweeter and interestingly enough, he has apparently removed those tweets found by livingincm.

He also hardly ever tweets and never said anything else about being in Madrid.

I also forgot about this little tidbit:
Quote
Some of us sent tweets to that guy for clairification, but he never answered any of us. That is a big red flag for a fake tweeter right there.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: mds1978 on March 29, 2011, 08:51:19 PM
Woweee, you guys are no joke!

Can't you guys maybe set aside your work on TAR for one season and go find Osama bin Laden instead? Somehow I have a feeling that if anyone could pull it off it would be you guys!

If I were one of the racers and I couldn't figure out where the clue is telling me to go, I think the first place I'd go to in search of the answer is an internet cafe so I could look up the timeline thread. I think you knew where the sign up sheet at the end of the first leg was before the cowboys ever did!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: DrRox on March 29, 2011, 08:58:25 PM
I think you knew where the sign up sheet at the end of the first leg was before the cowboys ever did!

You be correct!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on March 29, 2011, 09:43:26 PM
Woweee, you guys are no joke!

Can't you guys maybe set aside your work on TAR for one season and go find Osama bin Laden instead? Somehow I have a feeling that if anyone could pull it off it would be you guys!

If I were one of the racers and I couldn't figure out where the clue is telling me to go, I think the first place I'd go to in search of the answer is an internet cafe so I could look up the timeline thread. I think you knew where the sign up sheet at the end of the first leg was before the cowboys ever did!

It's happened....   :-[

And one of the nicest compliments we ever got here was from the wife of a Police Detecive who asked if we would come help him with some Cold Cases during our downtime!!  This is the MOST amazing team ever!! :hearts:

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on March 29, 2011, 11:49:39 PM
And saying again, there have been a lot of false spoilers the last couple of seasons trying to throw us off.

The so-called Madrid spoiler was I believe, one of those.

We have lots to look ahead to though!!

now...where is my promo?? :hearts: And one at a time this week please!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: franxaverian on March 30, 2011, 06:52:10 AM
Just a little speculation of mine...could TK mentioned by one of the cowboys refer to Team Kentucky a.k.a. Gallory. Mallory was Miss Kentucky so Gallory could be the one referred by the cowboys but I don't think I ever heard nicknaming by cowboys. Gallory is generally used in RFF but the teams racing might give other nicknames....Well, this is only my speculation..:)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: fly30 on March 30, 2011, 10:47:39 AM
Hi all,

Long time reader from Madrid...
Just wanted to give my 2 cents regarding the Cowboy sighting in Madrid airport - The 6th of December is a big bank holiday here of us (mainly because we also have the 8th and we turn it in to a very long weekend).

Last December the 3rd there was chaos at all Spanish airports because all air controlers when on strike!! Airports were closed form the evening of the 3rd until well into the night of the 4th... chaos contiuned until at least the 7th of December with the military having to take control of the situation!!! It was a crazy time with hundreds of cancellations everyday and no normality until at least the following week.

I just wanted to add this as another reason why the Cowboy sighting seems strange to me... with air control chaos at that level I very much doubt they would have choose to fly through Madrid around those dates!!

Here's hoping for a really spotting in Madrid soon :)
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Post by: georgiapeach on March 30, 2011, 11:34:29 AM
:welcome: to RFF fly30!

Thanks so much for that info! I think that is the kiss of death for that spoiler, so maybe we can finally put it to rest!  :yess:

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Caelestor on March 30, 2011, 11:38:19 AM
Hi all,

Long time reader from Madrid...
Just wanted to give my 2 cents regarding the Cowboy sighting in Madrid airport - The 6th of December is a big bank holiday here of us (mainly because we also have the 8th and we turn it in to a very long weekend).

Last December the 3rd there was chaos at all Spanish airports because all air controlers when on strike!! Airports were closed form the evening of the 3rd until well into the night of the 4th... chaos contiuned until at least the 7th of December with the military having to take control of the situation!!! It was a crazy time with hundreds of cancellations everyday and no normality until at least the following week.

I just wanted to add this as another reason why the Cowboy sighting seems strange to me... with air control chaos at that level I very much doubt they would have choose to fly through Madrid around those dates!!

Here's hoping for a really spotting in Madrid soon :)

Hi, welcome! Never any doubt in my mind that's.

I actually think TAR will head off to Spain for a leg in Madrid and another in Andalusia/Valencia in TAR 19. So much culture and unused potential in the country.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on March 30, 2011, 11:55:40 AM
:welcome2: to RFF, fly30! Thanks for helping us clear things up!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on March 30, 2011, 12:39:34 PM
I hope Caelestor's idea is used by World Race Productions. Spain has been underutilized by past Amazing Races. AR3 used Spain for its highway connections to Algiceras. AR 10 was in Barcelona. That's it, just 2 visits in 18 races. I would love to see Bilbao, Granada, Seville or even Madrid in AR19.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theschnauzers on March 30, 2011, 01:01:44 PM
WRP could even take the Race to the possible location of the lost city of Atlantis, that is now a protected marshland in southern Spain, or the location of one of several "memorial cities" said to be replicas that have been uncovered in central Spain.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: fly30 on March 31, 2011, 06:12:15 AM
Thanks for the welcome everybody  :hearts:

Agree with all the lost potential in Spain visits... they drove through a bit of the country in TAR 6 (I think) but it all focused more on car problems (the usual Diesel and gear sticks)...

Cities like Madrid, Granada, Seville, Bilbao, Valencia would be great locations...

Back on topic - glad the Cowboy sighting is likely to be false they are my mum's favorites and she would be heartbroken to think she had them so close by and never got a quick look :)
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on April 18, 2011, 10:15:48 AM
:welcome: to RFF crystiluv!!

I am going to move your question over to our question thread here:
http://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,24737.0.html

Where I am SURE someone can help you out!!
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on April 27, 2011, 12:14:27 PM
From The Futon Critic:

"Sunday, May 8 (8:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) THE AMAZING RACE - The final four Teams race through Rio de Janeiro and then to Miami, where the winner of the $1 million prize is revealed. Phil Keoghan hosts."

Read more: Breaking News - CBS Announces May Finale Storylines | TheFutonCritic.com http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2011/04/27/cbs-announces-may-finale-storylines-296101/20110427cbs01/#ixzz1KkE1qWW9

As others in the Finale thread (which I read after the fact) have pointed out, note that it says 4 teams, unique for an Amazing Race.

Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Prophet on April 27, 2011, 02:18:58 PM
Don't we expect the fourth team to be eliminated at the Rio pitstop?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: apskip on April 27, 2011, 02:40:16 PM
I did expect that until the CBS press release arrived. Now I believe that it does not matter if it is 4 teams or 3 that start Ep. 12 in Rio. Somehow, that group of teams will be narrowed until only 2 or at most 3 teams race for the Finish Line.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on April 27, 2011, 02:44:52 PM
Somebody goofed.

4 go to RIO.

3 race for the finale.

Guaranteed.
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: Michel on April 28, 2011, 02:35:54 PM
This would be the first finale since season six to do that, right?
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: lovephillovetar on May 02, 2011, 11:41:13 AM
what happened to the fast forward? only at leg 11?  :ascared
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: theamazingracefan100 on May 02, 2011, 11:43:11 AM
what happened to the fast forward? only at leg 11?  :ascared

NO FF this season
Title: Re: TAR 18 Speculation and Discussion *contains Spoilers*
Post by: georgiapeach on May 02, 2011, 11:48:40 AM
what happened to the fast forward? only at leg 11?  :ascared

:welcome2: !!

And that is correct...there were NO FF's on this race.