Topic: EP9 Title:Do you Know how much Running I Did today, Phil?

[mswood]

I thought one of the activites Fran and Barry managed was a Sky diving.  If this is correct, then how can Fran and Barry be eliminated this leg. 

[puddin]

 I don't think TurT knows what he's talking about , I only believe that he did see the three teams he mentioned , no way he know who was eliminated ..., his detour guess for golfing is interesting though !?
reposting the article
Lazarus, a retired urologist and graduate in the class of '64, and his wife dove from an airplane, bungee-jumped, and scaled buildings in their attempt to beat 11 other couples in the 30-day race across five continents. Although the race is finished, the results are top secret until revealed on television in the course of the season.

from this article noticed by banzai
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wild theory , Tyler is covering his & BJ's foot prints up so they other teams can't follow where they have been   

[Kogs]

i wonder if barry gives bj and tyler some clothes 

[banzai]

any educated guess's on the sun on Barrys head ?  :-\

The program I'm using can do it but I don't know how.  I'm waiting for a tutorial from the programmer.

wild theory , Tyler is covering his & BJ's foot prints up so they other teams can't follow where they have been

That's what happens when you hang around me. You become wild too 

[Boingo]

Ohhhhhh! The hairs are standing up on the back of my neck. I'm so excited.  I believe I found the building shown in the preview vidcaps. 

It's the Fremantle Chamber of Commerce Building, 16 Phillimore Street.

Guide to pictures shown below:
1) Vidcap of buildings
2) Drawing of Fremantle Chamber of Commerce building @ 16 Phillimore St.
3) Photo of Chamber building detail.
4) Building next door (14 Phillimore St.) and other buildings that match vidcap.

I believe you can just make out the "Chamber of Commerce" lettering on the building in the vidcap. 

[Slowhatch]

  Great work! It's right across the road from the ferry terminal. I wonder if that's the kind of commerce they want to promote. 

[gingerman28]

I estimate that Fran and Barry arrived at the pit stop at about just before sunset time which would be around 4:30PM; if they only have to rest for 12 hours, they would or might or could make the Oman Air flight no. 607 which leaves Muscat at 6:30AM and conncects in Dubai and arrives in Perth at 12:15AM! the next morning (November 22)  If the other teams can't fly out of Muscat until the early evening (what do they do all day?) and arrive in Perth not until 5:35PM the next day (November 22), the Old Timers would be almost 17 hours ahead of the bunch.  Maybe this is why we don't see much of them in the previews!!

Tyler has an iron key to a jail cell; Jo is holding the red roadblock clue in the same location.  So it looks like the Roadblock is to locate a certain jail cell and open it. (Shades of China and the locks on the fence!!)  Question: does "the find the jail cell" come before or after the trip through the tunnels under the prison in Fremantel??

"all of the teams" could mean three or four with one still trying to get on.  Not sure that FranBerry could even make the 6:30AM flight from Muscat since they would have to drive about 125 miles from Nizwa.  But if they did arrive earlier at the pit stop, say around 4:00PM, then  they probably could. 

If teams arrive in Perth than travel to Fremantel, would they be looking for a place to sleep that early in the evening?  If a team arrived at 1215AM then they probably would be looking for a place to sleep when they arrived.

Just throwing out ideas.

What would keep the teams busy in Oman if they have to wait until early evening before flying to Perth?

I dunno Gman , maybe you missed this clue ?
webclue
All of the teams but one sit anxiously on their plane waiting to take off hoping that the duo straggling behind will not make it in time . Will they?

I'm going to leave Turt a message , maybe he can tell us how far apart the 3 teams he saw were or what order .
 

[Boingo]

Cool map, slowhatch.  Note the "C shed" in the map matches the "C" building in the Eagle Express (docked) picture I posted previously.  It's all coming together nicely.   

[mswood]

There is also the possability of a route marker before getting on the flight to Australia.  IF so that would certainly add a little pit of time and make it even more unlikely that Fran and Barry were able to leave before everyone else.

[never0102]

I estimate that Fran and Barry arrived at the pit stop at about just before sunset time which would be around 4:30PM; if they only have to rest for 12 hours, they would or might or could make the Oman Air flight no. 607 which leaves Muscat at 6:30AM and conncects in Dubai and arrives in Perth at 12:15AM! the next morning (November 22)  If the other teams can't fly out of Muscat until the early evening (what do they do all day?) and arrive in Perth not until 5:35PM the next day (November 22), the Old Timers would be almost 17 hours ahead of the bunch.  Maybe this is why we don't see much of them in the previews!!

Tyler has an iron key to a jail cell; Jo is holding the red roadblock clue in the same location.  So it looks like the Roadblock is to locate a certain jail cell and open it. (Shades of China and the locks on the fence!!)  Question: does "the find the jail cell" come before or after the trip through the tunnels under the prison in Fremantel??

Its  36 hour pit stop.  If you noticed all teams had interviews in the daylight when they all arrived during the day.  So interviews were done the  next day.  had it been a 12 hour stop they would have done them all at night. 

[supsandalee]

If Chateau is correct about the 8:18 am - 9:01am time for BJ and TYler then Boingo must be mistaken about BJ and TYler leaving Rottnest at that time. The 1st ferry only arrives at the island at 8:00am.

If Fran and Barry were observed walking around in Fremantle between 1:09 and 1:18 pm it means that they got the 10:30 am ferry back to the mainland. According to Turt one team came through earlier than the other teams - could it be Fran And Barry who came through 4 hours earlier than the other 3 teams ? (difference between 10:30 and 2:30pm ferries). Could it be that BJ and Tyler were also on the 10:30 am ferry but weren't noticed?

mcalpine, if it helps those ferry times were only for the Rottnest Express. I since posted that there are other ferry companies that travel back and forth to the island. I don't think teams would necessariy have to use the same company both ways. I found a 9:15 ferry which is the one I think BJ & Tyler are running to catch in the vid cap (it would be docked when they ran up). That same company also has one at 10:45 and 12:30.

[puddin]

  Boingo whoooooohooooooooo , great find  !!!!!!!!! 

[Boingo]

Just dumping some pictures of Victoria Quay, Phillimore St., and ferry dock.   

[Boingo]

We know that F&B are staying somewhere near the C of C on Phillimore St.  In the vidcap we see them entering a side door.  I believe that the door is on the side of the Old Firestation Youth Hostel, 18 Phillimore St, next to the C of C.  Accross the street is a distinctive building which I believe is His Majesty's Hotel on the corner of Mouat & Phillimore. 

Building architecture matches both youth hostel & Hotel. 

Edited to add: Just found additonal photo of C of C as viewed from His Majesty's Hotel (see 4th photo below).  So F&B are standing somewhere between the C of C building and Old Firestation Hostel.

Added additional Google Earth image of where F&B are standing.  Note small building behind Old Firestation Hostel.  Perhaps that's where the Pleasure Dome room is.

[puddin]

Boingo , maybe this will help you ? 
http://www.yellowpages.com.au/map/mapEntry.do

or
http://www.citysearch.com.au/?ref=winav
http://www.whereis.com/whereis/home.do

[mswood]

Boingo some great photo work. 

[Slowhatch]

I don't think the 21 on the door is an address: 21 phillimore is the P & O building. It might be just a room number. Here is the Old Firestation page. They might answer if asked, but we'll know in a couple of days anyway.

[puddin]

 
from about.com




blown up as good as I could
I see shadows !!  It could be they are leaving the Lighthouse because of the mound behind them ?

[Slowhatch]

Go ahead and erase this Puddin if you've seen it before; it's a sighting by an Avis employee of a racer ("blonde chick"=Monica) and a mention of two places: Rottnest and Kings Park.

[desperado]

from about.com




blown up as good as I could
I see shadows !!  It could be they are leaving the Lighthouse because of the mound behind them ?

I don't know puddin. It appears that they are almost there and had to get off and push the bike. Tyler looks like he is surely draggin' butt. 

[puddin]

Go ahead and erase this Puddin if you've seen it before; it's a sighting by an Avis employee of a racer ("blonde chick"=Monica) and a mention of two places: Rottnest and Kings Park.

Yippeee Slowhatch , this is new info !! 

this would make the sighting on the 23rd of November  , nice to have more confirmation on the date as well .

[puddin]

I was thinking it was this area , not sure just guessing

[desperado]

It appears that's exactly where they are. The sign by BJ's hand and the bush behind them can be seen in your pics.     They appear to be headed slightly uphill with the sign on their right.

[puddin]

I hope someone can get a time on BJT on the bikes ( please , pretty please )
I wonder who pays the fine? producers ?

fwiw
Last but not least, I heard that one of the teams was fined about $200 for trying to bring food into Australia and a second team had some trouble with Customs/Immigrations by pushing to the front of the queue. None of this is confirmed and I doubt they would be allowed to show any footage of the teams clearing Customs & Immigrations.

[Kogs]

i wonder if that money comes out of there emergency fund that happenes to be 200 IIRC.