Topic: EP7 & EP8 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"

[puddin]

Slowhatch ..it sure looks like a blue clue that Papa is trying to swim & reach for ..I hope he snags it before he gets rescued  :t-up:

[supsandalee]

Morning or afternoon sun ... that is the question.  *(^
Chateau has the Godlewski's at the race trac at 9:20 a.m. Gman has them squinting into the setting sun. You guys are confusing me!  )_^>

[Chateau d If]

Here are Gmans shots of who he thinks looks like Mama Paolo..It looks like hes right . She does own a peach colored shirt ..

I got this promo on DVR.   That looks like a Linz to me.  It's a guy with short hair and big deltoids.

And I am very sure about the them being in the morning sun.

[puddin]

Ok it looks like a dude Chateau  :yaya: . Can you read what the yellow signs in the barrel place say ? they are attached to the wooden beams, I can only make out painted A , B , C etc along the wood structure .

[gingerman28]

On second look, that can't be a Blue Clue in Papa Paolo's hand.  The clues come in yellow envelopes with black stripes and in the case of retreaval in water they are in plastic bags and are usually not opened until back on dry land. It isn't until they are opened that you get to see the blue route marker.

[puddin]

 A sliver of yellow here Gman , maybe the envelope is attached to the blue thingy?


ETA : DUH of course theres a yellow envelope waiting at the buoy  :whsl: >^%

[Slowhatch]

The Bondurant cap on one of the Linz boys at FCI headquarters helps confirm the timelines set out by Gman, Sups and others. I still can't get the FCI pages to load; I had to pull this out of the Wayback Machine (web archive). FCI was an easy choice for the producers: each plane has a four-camera video system to record the flight for all the TopGun wannabe tourists.

[puddin]

Not much guys but I have something from the CBS news
Looks like its for  Entertainment tonight  !! :]

NA285+   Phoenix, AZ         Entertainment                   natsnd    CBS
         22:10:30 TRT 00:00 AZ Amazing Race Tie-In
         22:11:44 TRT 00:00

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Date:       11/7/2005
Story Slug: Entertainment
Title:      AZ Amazing Race Tie-In
Dateline:   Phoenix, AZ
Format:     natsnd
Source:     CBS

Handle:     NATL20051107334

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script to come

Music:

not sure what this one is for but KOLD is a CBS station in Tucson Arizona   !

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Date:       11/7/2005
Story Slug: Special for KOLD
Title:      Amazing Race
Dateline:   New York, NY
Format:     natsnd
Source:     CBSENTER

Handle:     NATL20051107263

Information:
Special for KOLD
Amazing Race

Supers:
Special for KOLD
Amazing Race

Music:
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[gingerman28]

CBS confirms on TES this morning that on tomorrow's TES the latest family to be eliminated on TAR8 will be on TES Wednesday morning.  But only ONE family; which means that the first hour ep7 most likely will be NON ELIMINATION .

Went back and rechecked my tape of the CBS promo, and I am 99.99% sure that the person with the peach colored blouse we see in the foreground while a go-cart with a young person with black shorts races by is indeed MA PAOLO - the shirt is not a tee as it has no sleeves, but looks more like peach colored blouse (so not one of the Bransen boys who sometimes do have orange tee shirts on) which is off one shoulder and down on the other and it looks like the hair is piled up (not long) and there is just a quick shot of what looks like a large white ear stud in the left ear (this is similar to what may shots show Ma Paolo had on her ears). So all in all it looks like a Paolo boy racing by his mama.

The timing of this event is puzzling: there are no shadows for the go-carts, or if there are shadows they are directly under the cart which would mean around noon time, but the shadows never seem to change no matter what angle we see the go-carts from. So the sun may be down so low it is blocked by the building on which the GodLew sisters are standing. But if Chateau's times are correct as arouind 11:15AM, where does this event fit in?  Could it be on the same day as the airplane gig in Mesa which we are pretty much sure is at sunrise (5:35AM or so)? No because we have one of the Bransen boys at the aeroshow with a Bondurant Black hat on.

So it may be that the Cain or Drain Detour in Costa Rica occurs so early in the day and does not take that long to accomplish that the teams are able to make the early flight to Phoenix.  Or, and this is a real big or, did the producers have a charter flight available so that team could fly directly to Phoenix which would take only 3 hours rather than the longer routes through connections in Dallas or Houston a flight which takes about 8 to 9 hours?

Still a lot of questions to work out.

[puddin]

 |#'


Arizona's the destination on Amazing Race tonight

Jessica Wanke
The Arizona Republic
Nov. 8, 2005 12:15 PM

Arizona gets the big spotlight tonight as the featured destination on the CBS reality program The Amazing Race.

The show airs locally on KPHO (Channel 5) at 8 p.m.

The adventure program sends teams globe-trotting around the world, competing against each other in different challenges for a prize. advertisement 
 
 


In episode seven of the season, the two-hour show airing tonight, the teams will race souped-up karts at The Bob Bondurant School of High Performance Driving on the Gila River Reservation, make a pit stop at Fort McDowell Adventures in Fountain Hills, fly fighter planes in Mesa, view the Grand Canyon's widest point, visit the Glen Canyon Dam and end up on a houseboat on Lake Powell.

According to CBS, the family edition of the show - in past seasons, teams were made up of couples; this year, it's families of four - is focusing more on U.S. destinations rather than the more exotic locales of years past.

For this season, the show's scouts were looking for places in the country rich in history.



Reach the reporter at jessica.wanke@arizonarepublic.com

[puddin]

It looks like we laid the Route out right !!  :]

Last pitstop ! something like this ..



http://www.jimtardio.com/lake-powell.html

[cinni]

 ,,>(  wow!! your guys really do rock!

 }^!  now if only we could figure out for sure who was going home tonight.

[gingerman28]

Thanks to the Arizona Republic we can firm up most details.  I think that the reason they are racing to bail out the rowboat after the river ride is so that they can row out to the Houseboat on Lake Powell which is the final pitstop.

So after Mesa FCI, the teams will drive north to Flagstaff on Interstate 17, go west on Interstate 40, and then to the North Rim of the Grand Canyon on 64.  Still this is quite a long road to hoe without stopping for some kind of DETOUR activity. But perhaps the DETOUR is to do with something on the North Rim.

From here they can drive to Page and undertake the river run with Wilderness River Adventures.

The timing of the Go-Carts is still a puzzlement but it somehow comes before the FCI gig. And if it does happen at noonish, then maybe they do take a charter flight from San Jose to Phoenix.

And the first pit stop is as suggested is La Puesta del Sol in Ft. McDowell National Reservation.

[supsandalee]

The Linzs should kick butt at paddling, right? If the bottom couple of teams are close at the river rafting it might come down to whoever will have the most problems paddling.

[Chateau d If]

I think GMan is right about Ma Paolo.  I was going by memory (posting from another computer).   When I reviewed the promo the deltoids went away and she jumped right out.     ETA:  It could also be Megan, she has  hoop earrings and in one frame of the promo there is a hoop on her left ear.

Nice work Slowhatch in spotting the racing cap at the airport task.

As for the shadows from the karts GMan, you can see them, they are just very short because the combination of rider and kart is very pyramidal.  You can see strong shadows cast by the riders' arms and the fold in their clothes.  And I withdrew the 11:15 time for the Godlewskis because Sharon's  limb shadow  was much larger evidence for an earlier time.

And I have been on a houseboat on Lake Powell !   I expect to hear about a place called "Bullfrog" tonight.

[Mandoli]

I love Phil's quote just now:

"Paolo family...you look ridiculous."

[supsandalee]

How about poor ma Paolo:

"What the hell are going to Pheonix for?  I want to go to New Zealand."

[Chateau d If]

Here is the location of the Detour.

[Chateau d If]

And Antelope Point Marina

[gingerman28]

Not bad at all gang; some pretty good work by everyone and we had it almost right on the nailhead - just some things we had no way of knowing, but we have them now on Lake Powell at the end of Friday, July 21.  Ten more days to go before they get to Niagara Falls on July 31, so i'm thinking we have some more 36-hour pit stops to sop up some of the time.

Some observations for TAR8 Eps 7 and 8.

We estimated that the Weavers arrived at the beach in Costa Rica at sunset or about 6:00PM and since they left the next morning at 9:00AM we have a strange 15 hour rest period.

On the next leg, Phil for the first time says "after a mandatory rest period of 12 hours" the team (Godlewski Sisters) left at 11:43PM. That puts Chateau's time estimates at the Kart Track pretty much right on they only had a 32 mile drive to La Puesta del Sol pitstop which means they arrived there at 11:43AM (unless they have added some kind of time penalty which we are not aware of) and the second team (Weavers) arrived only 5 minutes later at 11:48AM (at least that is the time announced that they arrived)

Although the Godlewski Sisters had to give up all their money and possessions when the came in last in Panama, they were allowed to keep their sleeping mats/bags since we see them lugging them along together with their other stuff now in plastic bags.

Interesting that the Paolos at the end of Ep7 told the Bransens to not step on the mat but go back and put on everything they could since they would be able to keep whatever they had on when they ended up Non-eliminated. Nice jesture but did it cost them the win?

Noted that in all cases the producers always have ONE MORE THAN NECESSARY things staked out:  6 Tractors and carts (Barrel); 6 swamped rowboats, 6 motor boats on Lake Powell.  We now know that the producers do this to keep the last team from knowing that they are indeed last. Keep this in mind during future TARs.

I wonder if The Lodge at Casa Creek Adventure Center in Belize also was the place the first five teams were sequestered??? Could be.

An interesting ep but most of the day during ep8 was spent driving.  I estimate a total of 428 miles. That is at least 7 hours not counting pit stops for food, drink, gas and bodily functions!  So if the day starts off at 4:30AM when the gates at FCI open, and the first flight takes place at sunrise at 5:35AM that would put them into the houseboat in late afternoon around 4 or 5PM.

[mcalpine9]

Has anyone noticed? The Paolos were the last team to get the clue from the altar boy but the boy still had one clue envolope left after that. Any explanations?

[gingerman28]

We have learned in the past that the producers always seem to have at least one more of everything (boats, jeeps, stretchers, tractors, and clues) than there are teams currently in the race.  This prevents the last place team from knowing whether they are last or not.  But if any of the current teams have ever watch any previous TAR they would know that there is always one more than necessary.

[puddin]

Insider clips  .. sorta boring as usual the Weavers have the longest clips  but hey no annoying Charmin Commercials to sit though!! YAY

Feeling the blues
The linz boys discuss how Megan has been struggling a bit dealing with them on the race ..they think the plane roadblock will cheer her up

So Scary
The Weavers are worried that the Linz family will yield them because they are irritating them by coming in ahead of them.

The Open Road
DJ feels perfectly fine with driving the open roads , the airports are too stressfull and they hate the waiting

No thanks
They anticipate the Roadblock at the airport and wonder what it might be while waiting . Mama wants to do it but knows she will be outvoted

Total waste
Mama & Papa Paolo are enjoying the view of Arizona landscape but DJ thinks its a waste of space and that someone should spend some money to develop them

History Repeating
The Paolo's sit in a traffic jam and Mama tells them that they should have stopped to call to ask for directions to the Grand Canyon. DJ tells her that she made her point and to be quiet ..mama says " now were lost"

Nothing in common
The Weavers talk about how the DHW's & GI Joes /Janes ( Godlewski'sLinzes) tried to trick them by pointing to the boats and making the Weavers think they were doing the compass detour . The Weavers thought the other 2 teams were doing the comapass's . " They think they are so suave but were actually wasting time "
They talk about  of the DHW's trying to bail the water out of the canoes and how the DHW's were screaming haha to the Weavers because they finished the boat detour ahead of them .
Weird ..they say that the DHW's haven't got first place yet ??  *(^
The Weaver kids think the Linzes weren't raised properly and that they should respect their elders .." you can mess with us but don't mess with our mom thats just low  "
They then make fun of the Linzes and how proud they are to have  100's of pictures of being passed out at bars and brag about being able to pass out standing up . They say the Linz family have no class and they can't relate to them on any aspect

Nothing in common 2
The Linz talk about the crazy Weavers and how they were in a caravan on the way to the dam and that the Weavers passed and thought it was a big deal to be a few seconds ahead of them ..they won't be inviting the Weavers to Cincinnati . They say the Weavers are snotty & stink .

Full Circle
The DHW's are surprised they came in first . They mention that the Linzes motor boat was taking on water costing them the lead .

then we have the Paolo's
Parting words
Nothing but love
about Papa and how proud they are of him and mama ..they did their best and Papa is proud that they worked as a team .
Papa loves mama ...
Mama loves Papa ,when they got married they had 600$ between them ..she says it was hers .( they laugh )
Papa is proud that he makes his money with honest living and hard work .

On the rise ,mat chat

Phil tells the Bransens that they did well today .Phil asks Lauren, who did the Plane roadblock if she left her lunch behind ? she says she felt sick in the car but much better now .
Phil tells Wally that the looks alot better than he did the last time he saw him . Wally says he feels better .Wally is proud of how well his daughters did today .

[puddin]

Notes later ....

finish line part 1
http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer/timeplay2.pl?type=wmv&id=16851

part 2
http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer/timeplay2.pl?type=wmv&id=16852

part 3
http://video.cgi.cbs.com/vplayer/timeplay2.pl?type=wmv&id=16853

[Chateau d If]

The boat trip from the dam to the tip of horseshoe bend is 6.5 miles.  Boat going say 13 mph would take 1 hour round trip.