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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #75 on: November 04, 2005, 10:21:34 PM »
Another thing bugging me.
If the detour for part 2 (or epi 8) is race track or river raft, why would the Weavers do race track?
Then it hit me.


Did they give up on the river raft and have no choice?
Clothes are all similar except for Rebecca(?) who has pink shorts and a white tee running, then a maroon tee and black shorts at the track.
Or i can be totally wrong and this is Rolly after doing the RB in epi 7.   B:)  |(

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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #76 on: November 05, 2005, 12:46:29 AM »
Mom24, I think you are right about that pic being post RB of Ep7.  Because it is so green: not like Phoenix or Page Arizona.  There are even indications of recent rain on the pavement.


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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #77 on: November 05, 2005, 10:52:46 AM »
Any chance we are looking for the rum barrels & sugar cane mill/ whatever in the wrong country ?  }}

Anyone recognize this road sign? I squinted zoomed ..everything and can't make it out .



Is this Arizona ?
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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #78 on: November 05, 2005, 12:15:58 PM »
I am pretty sure the sign says kilometros, that is the standard for Costa Rica. I think miles is used in the US. 

I dont think the truck that is carring the sugar cane is used in the US.

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« Reply #79 on: November 05, 2005, 12:34:27 PM »
I'm losing it charlierose  {l{ , thank you  ... what we really need are more previews for the Arizona leg ..something , because finding those barrels & the sugar cane field is like finding a red bean in a mountain of white beans .

eta: I know of no ox-carts in the USA .. when I said somewhere else I was thinking like maybe Nicaragua or Cuba {l{
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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #80 on: November 05, 2005, 03:10:00 PM »
I'm losing it charlierose  {l{ , thank you  ... what we really need are more previews for the Arizona leg ..something , because finding those barrels & the sugar cane field is like finding a red bean in a mountain of white beans .

eta: I know of no ox-carts in the USA .. when I said somewhere else I was thinking like maybe Nicaragua or Cuba {l{

There are rum distilleries in Nicarauga!!!  And Fidel would not be so pleased on the latter.  I really think the sugar cane etc is Central America somewhere.  Unless it's Belize or Puerto Rico.

Bacardi Rum Distillery in Puerto Rico:



"A view inside Casa Bacardi shows the aging casks (or barrels) used to hold the Rum until it is ready to be bottled."


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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #81 on: November 05, 2005, 07:35:45 PM »
thanks again Krazi ..

some PIPS ...not to interesting

 









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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #82 on: November 05, 2005, 11:50:59 PM »
Any chance we are looking for the rum barrels & sugar cane mill/ whatever in the wrong country ?  }}

Well since you asked .... I did a search for rum distilleries in Central America and came up with one in Nicaragua. While trying to find out more about the distillery I found someone's trip report with some interesting info. Here's part of it:

"Chichigalpa is a town 122 km northwest of Managua. Chichigalpa is located in the district of Chinandega. Chinandega is a largely agricultural district, growing sugar cane. It also contains the largest sugar mill in Nicaragua, the Ingénio San Antonio, as well as the Flor de Caña rum distillery. The port of Corinto, one of the most active in the Pacific, is also located in Chinandega. Two of the most important of the many volcanoes of Nicaragua are also here: Cosigüina and San Cristobal. The capital of the district is the city of Chinandega.
The town of Chichigalpa is next to the Ingénio and the distillery and in the shadow of San Cristobal."


So here we have a sugarcane mill close to a rum distillery. Managua is the capital of Nicaragua and has flights from Costa Rica. It is 75 miles from Managua to Chichigalpa. It is also close to Pacific coast beaches.

Finding info on the area, especially pictures isn't easy. I did get one of the sugarcane mill. The rum company does have a website but doesn't offer too much info. If we could get the date that Phil is seen leaving the Costa Rica airport to cooperate it might work.
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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #83 on: November 06, 2005, 12:11:24 AM »
 *%#  ...

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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #84 on: November 06, 2005, 12:37:19 AM »
I can't put my finger on it but I do recall that Phil (or BVM) was quoted saying that this race went to two new countries that TAR has never been to before.  If that is still true then I would not expect another.


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« Reply #85 on: November 06, 2005, 10:30:46 AM »
I think I found the barrels in Costa Rica  {**}.

There is a place that makes rum and is called Centenario Internacional ( Costa Rica Premium Rum ).

There are  pictures with barrels similar like the ones one the previews.  I cannot paste the picture.  And have not found out where they are located in Costa Rica. But I will keep looking.

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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #86 on: November 06, 2005, 10:36:37 AM »
I was just grasping at straws Chateau  </]

Hey charlierose , heres your picture and link ......  |#'
Centenario Internacional
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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #87 on: November 06, 2005, 12:29:27 PM »
It's a puzzlement.

Could we be wrong and the two hour ep on Tuesday is in fact only one leg with one pit stop?

Because there was no mention of a castoff team for TAR during the week preview of TES on CBS Sunday Morning.  This has held up over the years when there is a NON ELIMINATION leg for TAR.

But it makes no sense to have a two hour, two leg race without a pitstop after the first hour.  Puddin, what does the advance CBS schedule say for Wednesday?

I am still of the impression that the first hour on Tuesday will start in Costa Rica with teams flying to Phoenix and then driving down to Chandler for the mini car race and then up north again to Fort McDowell National Reservation and the pit stop at La Puesta del Sol. This would be NON ELIMINATION.  Since we haven't seen any drastic changes in clothes nor plastic bags, could it be that the Godlewski Sisters are last again??????

Then  in second hour we have the 360degree loops (Roadblock) and then a drive north 275 miles to Page, AZ and the raft trip down the Colorado River. With a DETOUR somewhere inbetween?? At a Navajo cliff house?

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« Reply #88 on: November 06, 2005, 01:16:21 PM »
Gman, the TV listings  ..TVGuide , TitanTV  have the latest team listed as being on Wendsday on the Early Show  BUT as you pointed out , The Early Show site itself does not have the eliminated team listed nor does MSN: or meevee listings

The Early Show
 
 President Jimmy Carter; actress Melina Kanakaredes.
 Channel: WYOU 2
 Airing Time: Wed 11/9, 7:00 AM (120 minutes) 
 Categories: General, Series, General/News, Series/Talk Show

the only thing solid I can get is on Tuesday around 3 or later when CBS updates the newspath with the EarlyShow promos that they release to the local CBS stations , or of course watching the ES coming up promo on Tuesday for Wendsday .
 
eta: and of course the following Wends Early show for WED 11/16 mentions nothing about the Race because the CMA are taking TAR's timeslot the night  before  :':')
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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #89 on: November 06, 2005, 02:39:47 PM »
forget all that , what if " you look ridiculous " LEG 7 was scheduled as a NEL ? then the CMA came into the schedule so TAR /CBS decided to combine Leg 7 & Leg 8 " Roll with the punches " as a 2 hour special BUT the info sent to the Early Show was originally " no team scheduled " due to a NEL , it just maybe that the Early Show has not updated the info yet  ?   8-)'

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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #90 on: November 06, 2005, 06:51:53 PM »
So we wait and see; but I still think that the first hour (ep 7) will be NON ELIMINATION and the second hour (ep 8) will be ELIMINATION  with Bransens and Weavers in danger.

Another thought about Ep 8.

Start day by driving from La Puesta del Sol (pit stop) to Mesa Airport for early morning ROADBLOCK with the Fighter Combat International planes. Teams seem to be here together so probably a bunch up with first come first grab the number and then camp out by the gate. Note that sunrise is at 5:34AM.

Next receive direction to drive north on Route Interstate 17 to Flagstaff and then off into either the Navajo Indian Reservation (Indian Wells) or Hopi Indian Reservation (Second Mesa) for DETOUR task which has not been shown to us (TPTB likes to spring secrets on us). This would be natural spot to break up long 5 hour trip from Phoenix to Page for the rafting trip which may lead to pit stop at Lee's Ferry which has camp grounds and cabins for rent.

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« Reply #91 on: November 06, 2005, 08:42:10 PM »
i don't know what to read into this post at twops
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Arizona. Go-kart company, rock formations...


It's not Arizona. I'm not allowed to say much more, but it's not the next leg either. The rock formation episode has four teams left. 
 

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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #92 on: November 06, 2005, 10:44:45 PM »
I would read that they don't use Google Earth, or know about Slowhatch's finds.   :)*

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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #93 on: November 06, 2005, 11:26:41 PM »
Which formation were they discussing over at TWOP? The red-rock stuff at the start of the promo or this formation (I included a cap a few frames back from Puddin's shot)? They don't look similar.

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« Reply #94 on: November 07, 2005, 12:16:54 AM »
I don't think those rocks look the same either Slowhatch ..I asked a few pages back but wasnt sure ..maybe its Utah ?
Oh and Slowhatch ..if Rachel was trying to post a spoiler she left out alot of details , sure I love spoilers but give us a clue as to what the heck you are trying to say )<

some thoughts on this upcoming episode

Costa Rica Ocean / could it be as simple as climbing The Big Shoe or Large chair for the clue ? one team member does the task ?( Webteaser_Safety divers are sent in to rescue one Racer who struggles to stay afloat during one task)
Barrels or Sticks /Detour , we see the Linz doing both  &  the Paolos Sticks
Rafting,bailing water   /Detour ..we only see the Linz team per vidcaps  B:)
Race cars / Roadblock or another one person task to get the next clue ? , we see Weavers & Godlewskis , the helmets are hiding the faces .( webteaser _Family members watch as one of their own takes an uncontrollable spin in a car)
Acrobatic planes / Roadblock , we see the Linz, Paolo's , Bransens , maybe Rolly Weaver ..pretty sure its him .


or the teams perform a detour in Costa Rica then are directed to Arizona to perform the Race Car roadblock ...pitstop then the next day continues with the Rafts & Planes? ..just spitballin here . The clothes don't have to match up..we know from previous episodes that they sometimes change clothes on the plane .





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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #95 on: November 07, 2005, 12:43:21 AM »
I agree about the ocean. Here's the black, white and yellow clue bouy, and also the blue card he's trying to hold.

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Re: EP7 : " You Look Ridiculous: I Don't Roll With The Punches, I Punch"
« Reply #96 on: November 07, 2005, 09:26:36 AM »
some thoughts on this upcoming episode
Costa Rica Ocean / could it be as simple as climbing The Big Shoe or Large chair for the clue ? one team member does the task ?( Webteaser_Safety divers are sent in to rescue one Racer who struggles to stay afloat during one task)
Barrels or Sticks /Detour , we see the Linz doing both  &  the Paolos Sticks
Rafting,bailing water   /Detour ..we only see the Linz team per vidcaps  B:)
Race cars / Roadblock or another one person task to get the next clue ? , we see Weavers & Godlewskis , the helmets are hiding the faces .( webteaser _Family members watch as one of their own takes an uncontrollable spin in a car)
Acrobatic planes / Roadblock , we see the Linz, Paolo's , Bransens , maybe Rolly Weaver ..pretty sure its him .

or the teams perform a detour in Costa Rica then are directed to Arizona to perform the Race Car roadblock ...pitstop then the next day continues with the Rafts & Planes? ..just spitballin here . The clothes don't have to match up..we know from previous episodes that they sometimes change clothes on the plane .

I was also trying to piece this together and knew there were one too many roadblocks so I thought the ocean swim must not be one. Arizona has 2 roadblocks so the race car roadblock must belong to Ep. 7. But, being that they are in the morning messes things up (for me anyway) and the only way to make it work may not make sense. If the race cars were late afternoon it would fit much better. Please help yourself at chipping away at this as I'm sure it needs work.

Episode 7
Tues, July 19:
Morning - Ocean swim to get clue.
Detour - sugarcane or rum barrels.
Directed to airport but have to wait for morning flights (could they catch afternoon flight at 1:50? probably not since Quepos is 3 1/2 hours from San Jose and detours have to be finished first)

Wed, Jul 20:
Morning - fly to Phoenix, arrive 4:30pm - 5:45 depending on flight
Go to Bondurant and find hours of operation. Sign up for start time? (this part doesn't fit well since we have Weavers at 9 a.m and Godlewskis at 11:15 which doesn't mean they bunched up for hours of operation)

Thurs, Jul 21:
Roadblock - race cars - get clue to go to pitstop
Pitstop at La Puesta del Sol (non-elim)

Episode 8
Friday, Jul 22:
Roadblock - stunt planes
Sedona to pick up clue
Detour - rafting or ??
Pitstop somewhere in Utah - elimination





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« Reply #97 on: November 07, 2005, 03:11:23 PM »
First: in the CBS lengthy promo last night on "Catagory  7" (by the way don't waste your time on this turkey- I only set the VCR to capture commericials for TAR) there is clear shot of at least two power rafts on the Colorado River - in the zoom in we see the Linz Family. No idea who is following. But the Linz must be first since they are pumping their fists in the air and ju mping with joy. One Linz brother is holding a blue route marker.

At the race track we have three cars racing neck and neck.  I can't tell who they are but it is strange that there are no shadows although the sky is bright blue. A shot of the two Godlewski sisters and they are looking into sun, so I am of the opinion it is late in the afternoon and perhaps sun is behind a hill, mountain, or building so that the go-carts don't throw shadows.

Also there is a shot on one go-cart going by what looks very much like the back of Mama Paolo (orange short sleeve shirt, frumpy hair, etc.

Now my turn to guess:

Thursday, July 20 (after 36 hour pit stop - camping out on the beach to save TPTB a few more bucks) Teams start to leave between 1AM and 5:30AM but must wait on beach until opening time at Sunrise which occurs at 5:25AM.  Clue has one team member swim out to retreave clue from bouy.

DETOUR - KEGS  or CANES. Find the clue in one of five empty kegs out of hundreds ("this could take all day") or gather and load a ox cart with sugar cane and take to processing plant.  We only see the Linz and Paolos doing this. 

Upon completion of Detour, clue says for them to proceed to San Jose Airport and catch a plane to Phoenix, Arizona.

It is possible since tasks always seem to take much shorter time then we think they do, for the teams to catch the 9:00AM American Airlines flight to Phoenix which arrives at 4:50PM. The best flight between the two cities is the Air West flight leaving at 7:15AM but there would not be time to do a Detour and then catch this flight.

Upon arrival at PHX, the teams must find marked GMC SUV's with clue on windshield which directs them to the Bondurant Go-Kart track south of Phoenix Airport in Chandler, AZ.  Arrival here and they find the clue for the ROADBLOCK: one member of the team must race a go-kart around the track in x minutes or less. The teams again are pretty much bunched up here.  Sunset is not until 7:35PM so they still have light to complete the task. The Godlewski sisters are seen squinting  into the setting sun as another sister races her car.

The clue here tells them to drive north to the Ft. McDowell National Reservation and locate La Puesta del Sol which is the pit stop for this leg of the race; the last team to arrive here may be eliminated. Nah. But you do look rediculous with all your clothing piled on. And could it be the sisters once again?

Friday, July 21 - After only a 12 hour pit stop the team get their first clue to proceed back to Mesa Airport and locate the Frontier Combat International site and find their next clue: first come first served. Probably another traditional bunch point as teams wait through the rest of the night for the office to open. When the office opens, teams find the next clue. Clue is a ROADBLOCK: one member of the team must fly a series of loops, spins, acrobatics with stunt flyer.  We see the teams (at least three at first): The Bransens, Linz and Paolo families (so were they first at the pit stop yesterday??)

Upon completion they receive clue to proceed north on Interstate 17 through Flagstaff to either the Navajo Indian Reservation at Indian Wells or the Hopi Indian Reservation at Second Mesa.  Here they get clue for the DETOUR one of two tasks usually undertaken  by Indians. Build a TeePee (oh shades of TAR6) or some other task.  This is pure speculation but we need a DETOUR to break up the long 5 hour or more drive from Phoenix to Page for the rafting trip.

Upon competion of the DETOUR, the teams receive instructions to drive north again to Page Arizona where they must find the rafting company (I forget the name we came up with) and proceed down the river a set distance to the reach five beached rowboats. They then must continue on down river to Lee's Ferry the original crossing point on the Colorado River. Here they will find an historical building which is the pit stop for this leg of the race. And the last team to arrive not only may be eliminated, they will and have a guest shot on TES Wednesday morning. 

Lack of face time seems to favor the Weavers or Branstens as the team that bites the dust.

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« Reply #98 on: November 07, 2005, 04:05:42 PM »
I need to post a revision on the time estimate for the Godlewskis.

Sorry for not seeing this sooner.  I was watching this Mars/Moon dance going on lately and started thinking about how shadow is cast apon a sphere.  That is how light creates a shadow on a sphere.  This applies to all spheres:  the Moon, golfballs, baseballs, bowling balls, ... and other spherically shaped things. 

If the shadow line is straight (like for example it is when we see a half moon) then the light is coming from the direction exactly perpendicular to that line.  In this shot the perpendicular to that shadow line is at  a 45 degree angle (up from horizontal)  That is the solar altitude. 

That happened at 9:20 am.

I think going by this Altitude shadow is more accurate that my earlier estimate by the Azimuth because it could be shining from behind.

I still think that the Weavers are earlier.

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« Reply #99 on: November 07, 2005, 05:44:48 PM »
Wow Gman .. *applause* ..
don't know if this helps but maybe you all have better eyes than me .
Here are Gmans shots of who he thinks looks like Mama Paolo..It looks like hes right . She does own a peach colored shirt .. :t-up:




whoever is wearing the purple suit is car#11


someone in a White Suit


slowed down we see 4 cars ( yellow in front and white suit third  )


again the Yellow suit , maybe car# 8 or #5 , can't make it out . Behind is car # 18.


You can almost make out the face of the #18 driver , looks like a male with Khaki shorts . A Linz ? maybe because the Paolos usually wear dark shorts .




this is where the #18 car runs into the # 5 whatever car / Yellow suit driver and proably spins the yellow driver out .Weaver daughter " the guys champing on her tail "



My point is that I think its mom Weaver in the yellow suit . She might have to start from the beginning if she spun out , but still with Chateau's shadow analysis it looks like the Godlewski sisters might just be last to arrive at the Racecar roadblock .
Webclue "One family watches as one of their own takes an uncontrollable spin in a car during one of the challenges"
Weaver kids reactions


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