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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #125 on: April 04, 2025, 10:24:48 AM »
Again, people on here said the show was on its last legs when it switched to the Friday timeslot.  And then again for Sundays.

TAR has always, for what it is, come in at reasonable cost.  Prize money aside, most viewers might be surprised that The Traitors, while being set at one location, likely has higher costs simply for celebrity signing rates.  As to how expensive the show is and whether or not it stays on budget, again, literally none of us know.  If it's managed this far AND not gone down to TARCAN levels of product placement, it seems, to me, like a non-starter.

I would much sooner believe that the show becomes untenable due to sociopolitical issues than the other reasons because, quite frankly, all the other reasons come out of the woodwork every season because people don't like the route or the teams or the boot order or the timeslot or the shift to only-spring or only-fall schedules or delayed casting or yada yada.  It's the same argument we see for TARAUS every year too.  The shows never do enough for the small number of ardent fans on RFF, and that always seems to be the bellwether for some reason...even though it's never been correct thus far.

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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #126 on: April 04, 2025, 10:47:07 AM »
TAR has always, for what it is, come in at reasonable cost.

Just for comparison, TAR 32 spent 2,000,000 TTD (USD 300,000) for the Trinidad and Tobago leg. One third of that qualified for a tax credit from the government.

Each episode of Ghosts collectively pays its cast $1,300,000, and that's without production costs.


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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #127 on: April 04, 2025, 10:55:26 AM »
I think we need to stop b******* and complaining about this season, but it has not aired yet. I know you hate the Europe inspire root, but come on. Regard to countries that are barely visit by the race.

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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #128 on: April 04, 2025, 11:02:06 AM »
Ugh, no not Eric and Tucker :( They were doing so well. I was rooting for them. :(

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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #129 on: April 04, 2025, 11:03:31 AM »
Who said that tucker was out ..?


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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #130 on: April 04, 2025, 01:41:02 PM »
Ugh, no not Eric and Tucker :( They were doing so well. I was rooting for them. :(
Whaaaaaaaat?!  Tucker & Eric?!  No!

Guess only Chelsie's left to rep it for BB26, and sadly, though I'm black like she is, I utterly despise the woman.

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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #131 on: April 04, 2025, 03:09:45 PM »
I think we need to stop b******* and complaining about this season, but it has not aired yet. I know you hate the Europe inspire root, but come on. Regard to countries that are barely visit by the race.

What I've been told here in the past is that this thread is specifically so that people can 'bitch, moan, and squeal' because people just gotta let it out.  My argument is that it was purposely fostering negative discussion.  I have no interest in stopping people from doing that, but it does open the floodgates to people who believe they're the authority on how TV is produced and how the viewers at large think and watch, and by and large, they're naive takes.  The show has already filmed those legs; they're going to air.  The best way they can make their disapproval heard is by simply not engaging with the topic.  Instead, they're just fuelling the discussion, and nowadays, that's more important for the longevity of the show with those lumpy bits that they don't like in mind.

Really, they could just not keep interacting with the things they don't like...but then again, this thread is there to fuel that cycle. lol

Oh well.  Every season, same conversation.

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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #132 on: April 04, 2025, 04:41:56 PM »
5 The first m/f friends to win .taylor /kyland
They would be the second pair of coed friends to win.  How soon you forget Flo & Zach from TAR3.  They were the first coed friends team to win.

Kyland & Taylor would be the first black friends team to win, considering that the other black teams to win have been either married (Chip & Kim and Uchenna & Joyce, the latter of whom are now divorced), sisters (Kisha & Jen), or brothers (Greg & John).

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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #133 on: April 04, 2025, 09:43:17 PM »
I would love to see a source that says The Traitors 'likely' has a higher budget than TAR. I think that is completely absurd. I am aware that NBC Universal pays the cast to appear, much more than the teams that don't win TAR. But there is zero chance the budget for traitors is anywhere near TAR.

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« Reply #134 on: April 04, 2025, 10:02:41 PM »
Appearance fees are very much a thing, and unfortunately that would cut into their regular budget. It's undoubtedly a reason why TAR Australia's "celebrity" seasons can only rope in D-listers and visit 4 countries a season.


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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #135 on: April 04, 2025, 10:20:04 PM »
Excited to see Athens again!  :conf: :cheer:

This pretty much confirms an all-Europe race now…

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« Reply #136 on: April 04, 2025, 11:22:48 PM »
I would love to see a source that says The Traitors 'likely' has a higher budget than TAR. I think that is completely absurd. I am aware that NBC Universal pays the cast to appear, much more than the teams that don't win TAR. But there is zero chance the budget for traitors is anywhere near TAR.

https://www.the-sun.com/tv/13820279/the-traitors-salaries-peacock-spoils-contestants-first-class-perks/

"“Their appearance fee is around $200k but depending on their contract and popularity, someone like Boston Rob will get as much as $300k.

“Lesser-known players still get paid well, they'll get roughly $75-100k,” the insider claimed."

At 23 players last season, that would be a minimum of $1,725,000 just for player salaries let alone all other production costs.  That's just for the cast to show up.  We know it's a fair bit higher than that.

They save costs by reusing the sets and challenges between international franchises (between U.S. and UK).
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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #137 on: April 04, 2025, 11:53:56 PM »
This is great. TAR will go many seasons above 40 as per Phil.

I would love to see a source that says The Traitors 'likely' has a higher budget than TAR. I think that is completely absurd. I am aware that NBC Universal pays the cast to appear, much more than the teams that don't win TAR. But there is zero chance the budget for traitors is anywhere near TAR.

https://www.the-sun.com/tv/13820279/the-traitors-salaries-peacock-spoils-contestants-first-class-perks/

"“Their appearance fee is around $200k but depending on their contract and popularity, someone like Boston Rob will get as much as $300k.

“Lesser-known players still get paid well, they'll get roughly $75-100k,” the insider claimed."

At 23 players last season, that would be a minimum of $1,725,000 just for player salaries let alone all other production costs.  That's just for the cast to show up.  We know it's a fair bit higher than that.

They save costs by reusing the sets and challenges between international franchises (between U.S. and UK).

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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #138 on: April 05, 2025, 03:38:24 AM »
*Feelings*

I feel like tucker and eric were disqualified ,and not the usual elimination.
 There were so many producers during that pianao task and there was only one piano at the time ,so they couldve been first

 Many producers at one task almost signals "decision time "

Now am excited..i love a disqualified team like race to survive .

I wonder what "offences " would a tar contestant be disqualified
 
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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #139 on: April 05, 2025, 09:17:42 AM »
I would love to see a source that says The Traitors 'likely' has a higher budget than TAR. I think that is completely absurd. I am aware that NBC Universal pays the cast to appear, much more than the teams that don't win TAR. But there is zero chance the budget for traitors is anywhere near TAR.

https://www.the-sun.com/tv/13820279/the-traitors-salaries-peacock-spoils-contestants-first-class-perks/

"“Their appearance fee is around $200k but depending on their contract and popularity, someone like Boston Rob will get as much as $300k.

“Lesser-known players still get paid well, they'll get roughly $75-100k,” the insider claimed."

At 23 players last season, that would be a minimum of $1,725,000 just for player salaries let alone all other production costs.  That's just for the cast to show up.  We know it's a fair bit higher than that.

They save costs by reusing the sets and challenges between international franchises (between U.S. and UK).

Thank you for that. That's a lot of money tied up in the cast. Even if you say cast plus prize money is 3 mil, for the race we'll say cast plus prize money is 1.1 mil. I have to believe the other costs of TAR more than make up the difference. So many flights, permits, security, challenge coordinators, etc. I did see something several years ago that rumored a race season to cost 10-12 mil, but take that with a grain of salt.

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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #140 on: April 05, 2025, 01:52:48 PM »
*Feelings*

I feel like tucker and eric were disqualified ,and not the usual elimination.
 There were so many producers during that pianao task and there was only one piano at the time ,so they couldve been first

 Many producers at one task almost signals "decision time "

Now am excited..i love a disqualified team like race to survive .

I wonder what "offences " would a tar contestant be disqualified
 
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Where do you see that?

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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #141 on: April 05, 2025, 11:15:01 PM »
Italy again?

Seriously?  :groan: :cmas11

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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #142 on: April 05, 2025, 11:25:29 PM »
Italy again?

Seriously?  :groan: :cmas11
At least it's a new city.  Never heard of Vigevano.

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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #143 on: April 05, 2025, 11:35:00 PM »
It's in the north, close to Milan.

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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #144 on: April 06, 2025, 02:06:55 AM »
As for people saying 'that's no excuse' in regards to an all-EU season, we have precedent for literally that for TAR33 and an all-CA/SA season in TAR36 which, even though it was COVID, still happened...and the show continued to film after it.

I think you're neglecting the elephant in the room - this is not a COVID season. The last time production did a single continent route out of their own volition was Season 8. 

Even then, Season 34 visited three continents and “35” visited two continents. Season 34 had a leg in Iceland (part of that leg was technically in North America). Season “35” also visited Barbados and the Dominican Republic.
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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #145 on: April 06, 2025, 07:12:41 AM »
Welcome to TAR 38, Europe Edition Folks.... just when we get two seasons in a year after soooo long, we only get to see the american-look-alike continent...so bummed
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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #146 on: April 06, 2025, 01:40:34 PM »
My 2 cents are that they just think the BB cast aren't...idk skilled enough to handle a race around the world? But even so that's BS solely bc of S30 and 31 had Big Brother teams do very well, actually. Plus, I doubt CBS is giving them a ton of funding since they care about Survivor and BB more, and the costs to get a cast like they have...yeah, no. It's a shame, but the hope is that 39 will actually have a return to form and have an actual race around the world with a unique cast instead of "heehoo big brother please watch"

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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #147 on: April 06, 2025, 02:07:28 PM »
Am guessing they do switzerland 🇨🇭, be4 gong onto the finale

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Re: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
« Reply #148 on: April 06, 2025, 02:16:10 PM »
Considering the women's team slaughter that we had going on for three legs in a row, I'm stoked that the last one standing is in the F4!

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« Reply #149 on: April 06, 2025, 02:22:14 PM »
Considering the women's team slaughter that we had going on for three legs in a row, I'm stoked that the last one standing is in the F4!

I need Izzy and Paige to win like I need oxygen in my blood :'(
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