Topic: TAR 38 Bitch, Moan & Squeal Thread (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)

[Avid]

A the three boys good dancers or have there not been any dance challenges. They seem to be at the front all the time .Maybe a romania dance experience will slow them down. I hav checked there dances and they are pretty difficult

[Avid]

Istanbul is right there ..  Thy can't do Bulgaria back to back.. Trains to Istanbul are plenty .

Any Absence of the 3 MMs in the finale ,is like "not having ricky and ceasar in the finale of 36". 

[Brannockdevice]

Istanbul is right there ..  Thy can't do Bulgaria back to back.. Trains to Istanbul are plenty .

Any Absence of the 3 MMs in the finale ,is like "not having ricky and ceasar in the finale of 36".

Probably not, anti-Erdogan protests are ramping up

[Avid]

They might as well do Poland ,if they are not going south of Europe!   A switchback dance routine would be epic or standing as statues begging 4 money .
Either way,they are definitely heading north

[Avid]

I think they left romania already ..last time we got no sighting from bulgaria and dubai ..and bulgaria is a train ride away from romania

[Avid]

Mega legs happen over a short distance without flights. If it was indeed a KOR leg ,then bucharest is near bulgaria. WE got no pics from bulgaria last time.
 It was very top secret and hard to get info ....
So see u guys in 4 days if its bulgaria .

[Maanca]

So they're in Athens now. That's cool, Greece is still undervisited, but an all-Europe route is basically confirmed now.

[TheRabbi]

I may seriously consider skipping this season. The BB theme was a huge turnoff and now its pretty much confirmed a 100% Europe route. What on earth was this show thinking.

[Xoruz]

What on earth was this show thinking.

Part of me wonders if this was originally planned to be a summer spin off (in the vein of BB OTT) and not TAR 38 airing in the fall alongside Survivor 49.

[Avid]

I'm not sure they're leaving Europe tbh, the fact this seems like it may be branded more as a "syndicated" version of the race and the obvious budget cuts the show has experienced.

Greece,albania and montenegro may close out the season 😬
 i think this season was a last minute decision. The producers usually scout places for a long period . Visas etc .
.The cast for 39 may already have been Selected  .
 I wont be surprised if 39 films in may or april .
I think 39 was bumped

Oh albania,if i catch u..lol

[Avid]

Finally, they are putting on shorts .After many legs. In s 37 ,everyone put on shorts from the majority of the race .

[ZBC Company]

I think the only reason why we stay in Europe. it's the fact that there was an earthquake in Asia.

[Avid]

Its going to be a final 4 ..imo .The 2nd leg in Greece mayb the penultimate leg .They may have been 3 legs in romanian.. They dont want all mm finale which has been neck and neck and neck since leg 6 ..
Am just guessing at this point . I dont think they will leave Europe ,after Greece .

[Brannockdevice]

I think the only reason why we stay in Europe. it's the fact that there was an earthquake in Asia.

TARAUS9 is filming now and they are 9 legs in Asia so far. That’s no excuse

[mshortle1996]

So this season is The Amazing Race: Big Brother European Vacation tour!

[Robin4]

I honestly do believe the show is on its last legs (no pun intended). I think a big reason why they're staying in Europe is simply budget, and the fact they cast a bunch of random BB cast members I think is a hail mary to try and get Big Brother fans possibly interested in the show.

I feel like 35 they were really hoping would "revive" the show and so they put in a decent amount of money into that season, and while it was a great season didn't pull in the viewership/ratings they were hoping. This current season is clearly on the lower end of the budget, as it seems like this Big Brother season will be as well.

[kyleisalive]

Lol, they're already clear to film the next season, doing casting calls, and proceeding with airing this current season in the fall (which is more than CBS was offering this past year).

I remember when people on the internet thought TAR would be cancelled in Season 3.

As for people saying 'that's no excuse' in regards to an all-EU season, we have precedent for literally that for TAR33 and an all-CA/SA season in TAR36 which, even though it was COVID, still happened...and the show continued to film after it.

Absolutely no one in these threads has insight into whether or not there were production issues or, alternatively, contestant/crew visa issues over filming that prevented other countries from being used.  And they won't unless production says/leaks that info.  But instead, this thread is being used to complain that this is the end of the show and how could they do this to us, it's unfounded?  Come on now.  Not to mention, very few people have any idea of production costs.  No one knows how much the show allocates to logistics.  It's complete speculation that they simply can't because reasons.

If you didn't stop watching the last times the show shrunk the route, you're not going to stop now.  The season is allegedly giving us new countries, we know it's giving us new cities (Kutna Hora is actually so exciting!).  People are going to feel how they feel, but complaining about the route is so exhausting at this point.  The show can do no right by some people unless it fits exactly into the mold they believe it must.  Too bad.  You're not going to enjoy the show, I guess.

I feel like 35 they were really hoping would "revive" the show and so they put in a decent amount of money into that season, and while it was a great season didn't pull in the viewership/ratings they were hoping.

And yet they still filmed TAR37 with more teams, on a circumnavigatory route, with more race mechanics to complicate the course, with more self-booked travel, and when they end up in the EU, likely more self-driving.


Every season, a very very very small amount of viewers jump the gun so hard on disliking it based on the most arbitrary speculation.

[Robin4]

We'll see. For the record, the show got VERY close to being cancelled after seasons 4, 24 and especially 11. Season 12 more or less was advertised as the "last season" at the time, but than it ended up being such a hit it gave new life to the show.
Its posisble we'll get another season that revives the show like seasons 5 and 12 did.

It seems like instead of cancelling the show they've just cut the budget in a lot of ways, no way you can argue there hasn't been noticeable budget cuts in recent seasons. We'll see how sustainable this is.

Its kind of giving me BBCAN vibes where everybody is like "don't worry, no way they actually cancel it, they've raise the winnings even." Than suddenly... boom... cancelled.

[Robin4]

It sounds like they've literally flown a plane two times this season lol, the budget cuts are very obvious.

A lot of the twists/game mechanics they've added don't cost them anything, if anything, to me that's more of signal they're grasping at straws to try to get more viewers whichever way possible.

Increasing the cast size would cost more but still the same number of legs because they've cut out NEL legs (They have one KOR leg each season still) so its not a huge cost increase really, just a way of rebranding themselves. Maybe the next budget cut will be going back to 11 teams again with no NEL.

[Brannockdevice]

As for people saying 'that's no excuse' in regards to an all-EU season, we have precedent for literally that for TAR33 and an all-CA/SA season in TAR36 which, even though it was COVID, still happened...and the show continued to film after it.

I think you're neglecting the elephant in the room - this is not a COVID season. The last time production did a single continent route out of their own volition was Season 8. 

Every season, a very very very small amount of viewers jump the gun so hard on disliking it based on the most arbitrary speculation.

That's not what's happening though. People are seeing a race unfolding that, on the conservative end, has at least 8 confirmed legs in Europe, and at the liberal end, has a route that takes place entirely in Europe, to say nothing of any casting gripes. It is completely reasonable to expect people to be upset at what they are seeing, and to expect people to not complain is unreasonable.

[kyleisalive]

Like I said: if people are coming into this expecting that the race needs to fit into their arbitrary box each time, they're always going to set themselves up to be disappointed, especially if they're looking at things without all the info.  Whether or not it's a COVID season or not has little bearing on that; coming in with an expectation means that if it isn't to expectation, you're probably going to be disappointed.

The show is still fine if it's not exactly what I want.  For some people, that's not enough.  Nothing to be changed there; the show's just not for them anymore in my opinion, and that's okay too.

I mean, not for them, I guess, but that's their problem.  lol

[TeamPlayerAlltheWay]

I think if the main premise and hook for the show is a "race around the world" competition and you didnt actually go around the world, people are bound to be dissapointed.

And we get it with the family edition and covid season, but with this one, theres no apparent reason why they didnt even bother to go to North Africa (like at least Morocco)

[Avid]

Alot is online,and alot is on the line with the teams
1.Abdin bros could be the 1st Arab muslim /to win show especially that they run during fasting.
2. We could have the first lesbians to win in izzy and paige.
3. The first dad/daughter team could win .
4 .The first sikhs on the show,and also the first sikhs to win
5 The first m/f friends to win .taylor /kyland
6 .Tucker could b the 1st bi mm team to win

Alot of first waiting to happen

[TheRabbi]

We'll see. For the record, the show got VERY close to being cancelled after seasons 4, 24 and especially 11. Season 12 more or less was advertised as the "last season" at the time, but than it ended up being such a hit it gave new life to the show.
Its posisble we'll get another season that revives the show like seasons 5 and 12 did.

The show definitely almost got canceled after season 4. The Emmy's saved it for one final attempt in season 5. Season 5 and then season 7 were great hits which re-launched the show. Then season 8 gave back all those gains with the awful family edition.

I don't know if it was close to being canceled after season 11, but for s12 the show received it's first significant budget cuts and also only ordered one season for that broadcast season instead of 2. Of course, the show's replacement, Viva Laughlin, bombed spectacularly and TAR was back in its Sunday slot by early November. And then CBS regretted not having a second season ordered because in spring 2008 the airwaves were a ghost town thanks to the writers strike. After that CBS left it alone for a long time. I think they realized it wasn't a huge hit but was fine enough.

I didn't hear rumors of being close to cancellation after s24. The show still was renewed for 2 seasons, but received additional budget slashing and CBS also started mandating the gimmick seasons like blind dating/social media.

I agree the show is winding down for reasons I stated in another thread. It's on the expensive side of reality shows. Reality shows are really getting gutted these days (realityblurred did a great piece on this). It doesn't make CBS money in longevity since it's not owned by them. Bertram is like 85+ years old. We're approaching season 40, and the ratings are still very middling. They keep trying to replace it, but they keep coming up with garbage like The Summit. The show is still fine for now and should have a few season left, but to pretend it's thriving seems disingenuous.

[Maanca]

I never heard that either, but after Season 24 was when it got moved from Sunday, thus losing the post-NFL viewer boost/delays, to Friday nights (aka where networks put shows they want to die). It wasn't a popular season, so that was definitely a concerning sign from CBS.

This show has shown a lot of staying power, but I do agree its days look numbered.