Topic: TAR 27 Ep 1 LIVE SHOW Updates and Commentary! Tonight at 8PM EST

[Jobby]

And oh, would have loved for TMZ to move on and bottomgod throughout, but seriously... won't miss them going home. Karma bites.

[elthemagnifico]

mine about 27th premiere
(+)
- diverse and lovable casts <333 even #TMZteam's elimination is awful because they could give us some great entertainment if they weren't eliminated
- detour task <33 skill vs brain... but foot volley task reminds me of TAR2...
-Alex/Adam did detour <333 thrilling me when I doubted they had made right choice. ..
-EP twist and fifth leg limitation
-quick-pace race...
-Brazil and Rio <333
-Justin breakdown...

(-)
-editing is like... ok let's move on
-where was the usual introduction when phil was introduced the racer... it's just like something missing
-lack of task... only the detour task like it's kinda short leg too bad
-yay for FF in first leg but nay for useless FF task (remind me of Austria's FF in 23)

[TARUSAFan]

So I just watched the episode and here are my thoughts

The Goods

> The cast. Casting did a really great job. I cannot fault it. Really diverse group   

> Tanner & Josh winning. Hoping the EP will be given to Tiffany & Krista. I could tell they will have an alliance.   

> Even more HD   


The Bads

> No proper team introductions. Like Season 26. Looking back at Season 25, teams were introduced properly with Phil saying "Adam & Bethany" Married Surfers from...... then "Amy & Maya, Food Scientists from..... and so on.   

> 60 minutes is not enough, very fast paced. It would be better if it was a 90-minute premiere. It would get the viewers to take in and get to know more about the teams, the tasks and Rio De Janeiro. 

> Leg felt kinda short. It would have been better to have both a Roadblock and a Detour in the 1st leg. 

> Phil not introducing team placements. 

> FF in the 1st leg with an EP up for grabs. The EP is a powerful prize that should be just given out easily

> Elaborating much on Justin & Diana's FF downfall.

> Kelly & Shevonne eliminated. It would have been better if they stayed longer. They may have flopped in the challenges in the 1st leg, but who knows, they could move up in the 2nd leg. There should be a 1st leg NEL. If 1st leg was NEL what would the outcomes be? Looking back at previous seasons, what if Jeff & Lyda, Lisa & Michelle, Misa & Maiya were saved?   

>I would rather see the team's relationship rather than the hashtags on screen.

Ex. 

Tanner & Josh       Or     Tanner & Josh                                Not                  Tanner & Josh                   
Best Friends                   Best Friends - #TeamTexas                                    #Team Texas                                                                 



~ Hoping the next episodes will be better. Still I love the season.

[NMC]

All going well, I'll hopefully do a Pros & Cons List / Review for each episode after it airs.  I'll probably start with the Negatives, so that we end on a happy note with the Positives.

Negatives:
- Phil not introducing the Teams at the Start. This was the thing I hated most about S26, but excused it due to the format, with half the Teams being Blind Dates. There is absolutely NO REASON for this to carry over to a normal Season. 
- Phil once again NOT announcing all Team Placements at the Pitstop. 
- A Fast Forward on the 1st Leg, when there's an EP at stake? 
- ENOUGH WITH THE HASHTAGS.  Or a least make them meaningful to the Team. E.g #MotherSon rather then #TeamAlabama.  Like someone else already said, it's not a gimmick Season.
- Spreading out the Helicopter departure times. I mean we could have had at least two Teams depart at a time. It really killed the suspense. I LOVE when all the teams are bunched together, and if this Leg had have had a RB, and then the Detour, with ALL teams bunched together for the whole, (or most of), the Leg, it would have been Amazing.  (TAR 18 Leg 2 Perfected this with all 11 Teams at the Detour at the same time) Stupid Helicopter sign up. 
- Once again a predictable Leg Winner.    And I could almost predict that they'll give the EP too one of the F/F teams, most likely the Cheerleaders. (Providing they survive that long) - This is solely based on my imagination of them forming an alliance. 
- Kelly & Shevonnes Elimination. This team could have been great. They really need another NEL on Leg 1. Its been 8 Seasons since the last one. 
- Finally the whole Leg design was disastrous.  Like I said earlier, there should've been a RB AND a Detour.  Producers need to take a good long look at TAR Aus, and Canada's first Legs.  They're able to throw in loads of tasks in Leg 1. I know it's all down to the Budget, and this and that, but come on, if other Versions can do it, WHY CAN'T CBS DO THE SAME!!!!

Positives:
- The Cast on a whole, apart from Josh & Tanner, are great, so far anyway.
- The revamped graphics look sharp, and I'm really liking them.
- The Fast Forward flopping like TAR 24. 

Unsure Of:
- The new EP twist. Why bother having a twist? It would have been better if they just kept the 2 EP's, where both Teams had to use them before the 5th Leg. I'll just wait to see how this one turns out.

So there's my quick run down. Can't believe I've only 3 Positives.    I'm praying this isn't a sign of things to come.

Love: Ernest & Jin, Cindy & Rick
Like: Adam & Alex, Logan & Chris, Jazmine & Danielle, Denise & James Earl, Justin & Diana, Tiffany & Krista, Kelly & Shevonne
Neutral: Joey & Kelsey
Dislike: Tanner & Josh

[gabriel90]

The amount of dumb teams this season is off the charts ... but it is very entertaining I laughed my ass of so hard! and drama queens are the funniest.  I'm a sucker for Best Friends/Brothers teams so I'm automatically rooting for Tanner & Josh. 

[DrRox]

Seems to me the editors focused on #team green's unlucky choice to go for the fast forward. It llokd to me they used the same location as TAR 2 did for the same tasks, and a team would have landed at Copacabana Beach.

There is only one hang gliding place in Rio. That is Sao Conrado. The take-off place is on the NE side of Pedra de Gavea and the landing place is on the beach at Sao Conrado. It is way to far to fly to Copacabana....4-5 miles. In TAR 2 teams landed in front of the condos in Sao Conrado. I would think on this one, they might have landed in front of the Sheraton/Intercontinental Hotel, just to get close to the taxi stand. Then the FF winner would have taken a taxi to Arporador to the pit stpp.

[Nyoman_SB1]

All going well, I'll hopefully do a Pros & Cons List / Review for each episode after it airs.  I'll probably start with the Negatives, so that we end on a happy note with the Positives.

Negatives:
- Phil not introducing the Teams at the Start. This was the thing I hated most about S26, but excused it due to the format, with half the Teams being Blind Dates. There is absolutely NO REASON for this to carry over to a normal Season. 
- Phil once again NOT announcing all Team Placements at the Pitstop. 
- A Fast Forward on the 1st Leg, when there's an EP at stake? 
- ENOUGH WITH THE HASHTAGS.  Or a least make them meaningful to the Team. E.g #MotherSon rather then #TeamAlabama.  Like someone else already said, it's not a gimmick Season.
- Spreading out the Helicopter departure times. I mean we could have had at least two Teams depart at a time. It really killed the suspense. I LOVE when all the teams are bunched together, and if this Leg had have had a RB, and then the Detour, with ALL teams bunched together for the whole, (or most of), the Leg, it would have been Amazing.  (TAR 18 Leg 2 Perfected this with all 11 Teams at the Detour at the same time) Stupid Helicopter sign up. 
- Once again a predictable Leg Winner.    And I could almost predict that they'll give the EP too one of the F/F teams, most likely the Cheerleaders. (Providing they survive that long) - This is solely based on my imagination of them forming an alliance. 
- Kelly & Shevonnes Elimination. This team could have been great. They really need another NEL on Leg 1. Its been 8 Seasons since the last one. 
- Finally the whole Leg design was disastrous.  Like I said earlier, there should've been a RB AND a Detour.  Producers need to take a good long look at TAR Aus, and Canada's first Legs.  They're able to throw in loads of tasks in Leg 1. I know it's all down to the Budget, and this and that, but come on, if other Versions can do it, WHY CAN'T CBS DO THE SAME!!!!

THIS..!!! 

Before the race started, i don't really like the TMZ team, but after watching the premiere, they are nicer than i expected. I wish it was NEL because they seem fun & could be our trainwreck team this season lol..

[fossil-racer]

I wish the Active Route Marker was harder like how tall was Christ the Redeemer.
Detour was great.
They could have brought some elements over from the Season 26 premiere like Uturn and 90 minutes.

[Chateau d If]

Seems to me the editors focused on #team green's unlucky choice to go for the fast forward. It llokd to me they used the same location as TAR 2 did for the same tasks, and a team would have landed at Copacabana Beach.

There is only one hang gliding place in Rio. That is Sao Conrado. The take-off place is on the NE side of Pedra de Gavea and the landing place is on the beach at Sao Conrado. It is way to far to fly to Copacabana....4-5 miles. In TAR 2 teams landed in front of the condos in Sao Conrado. I would think on this one, they might have landed in front of the Sheraton/Intercontinental Hotel, just to get close to the taxi stand. Then the FF winner would have taken a taxi to Arporador to the pit stpp.

The Hang gliding jump ramp is located on Pedra Bonita.

[Leilani]

Editing was rushed. Did they legitimately edit out a footrace between Ernest & Jin and Kelsey & Joey?

Everything about this episode feels rushed. I have no opinion about most of the teams rn.

Same here... all I know is that Justin cries a lot. Tiffany&Krista's backpacks look really heavy. Is hard for me to understand chacattack and that Tmz girls get bully at work.

I don't think it's that the girls get bullied at work.  It's more getting teased and picked on in a friendly manner rather than getting bullied or picked on maliciously.  It might be hard to understand if you've never worked at a place where this happens, but it's fairly common in places I've worked.  When people are liked by others, they get friendly ribbing.  (For example, if they were in my office they would have come back to work to find slide puzzles all over their desks.)  When people are not liked, they get ignored.  I don't watch TMZ, but I've caught episodes from time to time and it seems like that type of work place.

[Vitoko]

Editing was rushed. Did they legitimately edit out a footrace between Ernest & Jin and Kelsey & Joey?

Everything about this episode feels rushed. I have no opinion about most of the teams rn.

Same here... all I know is that Justin cries a lot. Tiffany&Krista's backpacks look really heavy. Is hard for me to understand chacattack and that Tmz girls get bully at work.

I don't think it's that the girls get bullied at work.  It's more getting teased and picked on in a friendly manner rather than getting bullied or picked on maliciously.  It might be hard to understand if you've never worked at a place where this happens, but it's fairly common in places I've worked.  When people are liked by others, they get friendly ribbing.  (For example, if they were in my office they would have come back to work to find slide puzzles all over their desks.)  When people are not liked, they get ignored.  I don't watch TMZ, but I've caught episodes from time to time and it seems like that type of work place.

Oh don't worry I understand the context of TMZ. Is basically their job to make jokes about people, report a celebrity coming out of dinner among other things. TMZ can be really funny sometimes, it airs here usually around 5 or 6 in the morning for like 15 minutes or so and I watch it whenever it's on and I can't fall sleep. It was just a jab at the edit of the episode.

[TARUSAFan]

It would have been better if it was a 90-minute premier. Everything was simply rushed. If it was longer, we got to meet the teams more. 

Looking back at Season 25, Phil introduced the start line place with a few descriptions, then he proceeded to introduce the teams one by one, then what would you expect in the  race + the prize in Leg 1.

(For Season 27, there were shots of all the teams running in the sand as seen in the live sightings thread. It implied to me that these will be the clips of them that will be used in the introduction. How come the backstory of Kelsey & Joey, Kelly & Shevonne and Ernest & Jin were shown while they were in the cabs during the premiere?) 
>>>>>>>> Because the cast was diverse it was easy to determine who was who. Good job with the casting.

In Season 19, the "Umbrella" Start Line Task was edited enough for the viewers to see and understand how the teams reacted. In Season 27's "Water Bike Race" Start Line Task was a breeze. We did not even get to see how Tanner & Josh got to shore after their bike bogged down.

In previous seasons, we got to see teams mingle at the airport. In Season 27, We only saw a glimpse of Tanner & Josh shaking hands with Kelly & Shevonne, Kelly & Shevonne giving their impressions of Tiffany & Krista, Tanner & Josh and Denise & James Earl, Tiffany & Krista "saying Rio!" and Kelsey & Joey boarding.

Going to Rio De Janeiro, I was underwhelmed. This is such an awesome destination.  In my opinion one of the best premieres in the HD Era (Seasons 18-27) from TAR was Season 20, 22, 23 and 25. If they simply did it like Season 22's premiere then it would be a winner to me.

It would have been better if there was a Roadblock after the Helicopter task. Something that would involve Brazilian culture, such as:

> A task where one team member had to eat Brazilian food and identify what they have eaten. It's like a memory task.
> A task where one team member had to participate in Rio’s Jockey Club. (Horse-Racing)
> If the weather was good, I would have turned the hang-gliding task a Roadblock
> Carnival inspired task

For the Fast Forward, knowing that the Express Pass is up for grabs, it should not just be given easily. I would change the hang-gliding task to a harder one like replicating an intricate sandcastle on Ipanema beach so as the team that would take it would not see the teams in Copacabana beach.

Phil said, they listened to what the fans want. They did it with the route, with the cast, going back to roots, the throwback theme but not the editing based on the 1st episode. Hopefully the next episodes will be better. One more thing I'd rather see team's relationship rather than hashtags.

[gamerfan09]

I noticed a problem with the new TAR era (25-27) and idk, I just feel like the editing needs more improvement now than ever =/

IDK but I just miss everyone reading the clue, Phil announcing Pit Stop placements, and even smaller touches. It seems to have started with 24, since I noticed that 24 marked the beginning of:

*X finishes task*
*Y omg good job*
*subtitle flashes of their team and placement*
*cut to other team*

in the editing.

I hope they return to the old style editing of even 23 tbh, look at how the new era of TAR25 onwards are amazing, it would be 99999x better with snappier editing.

I also noticed the 27 premiere was only 41 minutes, which is shockingly less than the 45 minute average. Did they have to cut the budget a little for more ads?

[Jobby]

^^ mine was 43.05 and i dl-ed the episode lol

[Jobby]

Just a question...do you think Justin and Diana should have waited for the Fast Forward?... :/

[theschnauzers]

Just a question...do you think Justin and Diana should have waited for the Fast Forward?... :/

Actually, no. It sounds as if the wind speed wasn't going to come down enough and waiting probably would have resulted in an elimination because of the travel time involved had they waited until later to change their minds.

[theschnauzers]

When you purchase the downloaded episodes from ITunes, they are all between 43 and just under 44 ninutes.

[Belle Book]

Just a question...do you think Justin and Diana should have waited for the Fast Forward?... :/

No, and I wouldn't have waited either.  Had their plane not been delayed, maybe they would have waited but with the other teams so close behind?  No.

[georgiapeach]

Mel is the only one who ever had any luck waiting...and he had an inside track.

[Washingtonian]

It should have been 2 hours long.

YES, it should be.  They could have added more tasks that way.

[Kamineko]

Just wondering, is Justin and Diana the first team ever to spend all of their money the earliest/quickest on the race?

[gabriel90]

Just wondering, is Justin and Diana the first team ever to spend all of their money the earliest/quickest on the race?

I wondered the same thing while I was watching ... My guess is they spent it on Xanax  The guy was an emotional trainwreck and the season did not start yet! He will be interesting to watch during the season ... and I have a feeling we did not see the last of his waterworks 

[Cocoa]

what's up with the super un-HD aerial shots of Rio?!?! I feel like I'm watching footages from 15 years ago.

anyway, there a LOT of new amazing music however they tend to just drown allllll scenes with them (e.g. shows X team attempting detour, play music WITHOUT any edits whatsoever)

What happened in the editing bay? Quality seemed to drop year after year since TAR 20. Bring back TAR14-TAR17 intense editing!

Phil's no longer the Phil I love

I'm only watching TAR because it was once my favorite....... (Survivor, on the other hand,... god I still get excited 31 seasons in)

[redskevin88]

My own recap of the episode, see if you guys like it: https://redshopekevin.wordpress.com/2015/09/29/watching-the-amazing-race/

[Jobby]

I'm only watching TAR because it was once my favorite....... (Survivor, on the other hand,... god I still get excited 31 seasons in)

same feelin' here :/