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Neobie:
Doesn't work if the locations are the same as last time. The eel Roadblock in Monnickendam and the pole vaulting in Ransdorp are just on the outskirts of Amsterdam, giving teams more than three hours at the task itself before they are due to arrive in Amsterdam Centraal. Groningen, on the other hand, is too far, and the quickest way there and back by train will see them arrive an hour and a half after the sightings.
The clue box outside the train station, though, seems like the first clue in a country to me. If they'd been doing tasks in the Netherlands you'd guess they would be getting direct instructions to the next location.
Alenaveda:
--- Quote from: Neobie on September 07, 2012, 01:37:54 PM ---Doesn't work if the locations are the same as last time. The eel Roadblock in Monnickendam and the pole vaulting in Ransdorp are just on the outskirts of Amsterdam, giving teams more than three hours at the task itself before they are due to arrive in Amsterdam Centraal. Groningen, on the other hand, is too far, and the quickest way there and back by train will see them arrive an hour and a half after the sightings.
The clue box outside the train station, though, seems like the first clue in a country to me. If they'd been doing tasks in the Netherlands you'd guess they would be getting direct instructions to the next location.
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At least, this is one option we can dismiss :tup:.
DrRox:
Assuming that Leg 8 is a 2nd leg in/around Moscow--one of Neobie's short legs---on June 9th,2012. This would mean teams could be released from Pit Stops sometime on June 10, to head to Amsterdamn. I would think that teams were released after the 10-11 am time frame to preclude them catching the morning flights to Amserdamn. That leaves two evening flights to Amsterdamn:
SVO to AMS evening June 10,2012
KL904 1800-1919
SU2552 2055-2233
If Groningen is the destination for the clock tower RB, the last train is @ 2320. If teams, that were on the last flight, were held up in customs........they might have to wait till 0520 for the first train to Groningen. Depending on when teams are actually released from the last Moscow pit stop, the airplane flights could give us the 3 hour time differential in the arrival of teams at Amsterdam Central Train Station on June 11.
I am suggesting something like the Hiroshima/Osaka leg from TAR20. Since WRP doesnt like to film at night.....then some kind of mid leg HoO in eastern Holland. Probably for the church clock tower to open.....but if teams also got stuck at Schipol Train station.....then they could have some kind of double HoO to preserve the 3 hour time differential.......I know this doesnt make a lot of sense, but there are just a lot of variables involved. There are trains arriving at Amsterdamn Central Station that closely approximate the sightings of the TAR teams back in Amsterdamn on June 11.
The train rides from Amsterdam to Groningen and back are about 2.5 hours. So if the church clock tower opened at 9 am...one hour to complete the task, then 2.5 hours back to Amsterdam......that would put an early team into AMS at ~ 1 pm.
Anyway......I am just sort of thinking out loud......so feel free to shoot down this idea.
Alenaveda:
--- Quote from: DrRox on September 07, 2012, 03:57:17 PM ---Assuming that Leg 8 is a 2nd leg in/around Moscow--one of Neobie's short legs---on June 9th,2012. This would mean teams could be released from Pit Stops sometime on June 10, to head to Amsterdamn. I would think that teams were released after the 10-11 am time frame to preclude them catching the morning flights to Amserdamn. That leaves two evening flights to Amsterdamn:
SVO to AMS evening June 10,2012
KL904 1800-1919
SU2552 2055-2233
If Groningen is the destination for the clock tower RB, the last train is @ 2320. If teams, that were on the last flight, were held up in customs........they might have to wait till 0520 for the first train to Groningen. Depending on when teams are actually released from the last Moscow pit stop, the airplane flights could give us the 3 hour time differential in the arrival of teams at Amsterdam Central Train Station on June 11.
I am suggesting something like the Hiroshima/Osaka leg from TAR20. Since WRP doesnt like to film at night.....then some kind of mid leg HoO in eastern Holland. Probably for the church clock tower to open.....but if teams also got stuck at Schipol Train station.....then they could have some kind of double HoO to preserve the 3 hour time differential.......I know this doesnt make a lot of sense, but there are just a lot of variables involved. There are trains arriving at Amsterdamn Central Station that closely approximate the sightings of the TAR teams back in Amsterdamn on June 11.
The train rides from Amsterdam to Groningen and back are about 2.5 hours. So if the church clock tower opened at 9 am...one hour to complete the task, then 2.5 hours back to Amsterdam......that would put an early team into AMS at ~ 1 pm.
Anyway......I am just sort of thinking out loud......so feel free to shoot down this idea.
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According to this page below, the HoO of the Martinitoren from April to October is from 11.00am to 17.00pm.. But the tower also opens for guided tours from 09.00-11.00am. and 17.00-20.00pm.. I rembember that in TAR15 we didn't see people in the tower at the moment of the RB, so we can assume that it was performed in the hours of the guided tours. The most probable scenario is - if they repeat that RB - that it had happened on the same time period.
http://www.martinistad.nl/groningen/martinitoren/
DrRox:
If in fact that the clock tower is the switchback roadblock in TAR 21........I have absolutely no doubt that it would be closed to the public on that day. Rented out by WRP for exclusive use. And that WRP would set their own HoO.....depending on their own objectives.
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