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Air:
I agree with DrRox 100% on this. It wouldn't make sense NOT to rent it out.

DrRox:
Alenaveda's comment was very good. She did some research to see if my hypothesis would work. My hypothesis is highly speculative. I actually started thinking about it from some comments made by Neobie up above. He showed how the morning flights were not compatible with the time frame of teams spotted in Ams Central.....

Anyway....anyone/everyone come up with some ideas and try to make your ideas fit the few facts we do know......Maybe we can colectively find the solution!!!!

theschnauzers:
There are always three factors that I find need to be repeated as necessary in trying to figure out a timeline on incomplete confirmed information.

First, as I noted before, is the use of connecting and not direct flights, for various reasons; second, that you have to account for production's need to get Phil ahead of the teams to the next country or region; and third, pit stops can be any length of time the production needs to move the Race along and still get Phil and the Racers where their route needs them to be. Hence, we need to avoid assuming that pit stops are intended to be 12 hours; the reality is that they are rarely 12 hours anymore.

Neobie:
Knowing that there is no country in between Russia and the Netherlands, and assuming the Netherlands isn't Leg 8 (where the gap between the two waves is unlikely to arise)...

1. Connecting Flights
This flight combination makes sense, on the morning of the 11 Jun, if we accept that Amsterdam Centraal was not the first destination in the country and teams spent four and a half hours between the airport and the train station:
KL 902 from Moscow SVO to Amsterdam: 0533-0658 (sch. 0535-0655)
AZ 595 from Moscow SVO to Rome: 0550-0745 (sch. 0550-0745)
AZ 108 from Rome to Amsterdam: 0910-1143 (sch. 0855-1130)
These are the first two routes out of Moscow SVO to Amsterdam, so a Pit Start after 8pm on 10 Jun would cluster the teams on these two combinations. There is an alternative via Berlin on airberlin/KLM arriving 10.37am, but that leaves from Moscow DME.

2. Phil and Production
If Leg 8 took place in Russia, it would have taken place on the 9th, giving Phil plenty of time for a night flight out or even the same KL 902 a day ahead of the teams, on 10 Jun.

3. Pit Stops
Absolutely agree with TheSchnauzers. In recent seasons (stretching back to Season 13), they're almost always longer than 12 hours, with the exception of the last leg, which is often shorter than 12 hours. Here's the list from TAR 20:
13h, 15h, 20h, 19h, 19h, 36h, 15h, 34h, 21h, 29h, 3h.

Alenaveda:
I'm gonna ask all of you about this, because of your experiencie in this stuff:  is there a chance that teams fly to Eelde Airport on Groningen from Moscow? You know, Martinitoren (if it's the chosen RB for the switchback) is only 20-25 minutes distance from the airport, and - as DrRox stated previously - the train ride to Amsterdam is about 2.5 hours, that could easily give us the 3.46 hours window that Neobie suggests.

(Once again, I'm only dismissing options).

(BTW, DrRox, if you were referring to me in your last post, the "she" is a "he"  :lol:)

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