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maf:
--- Quote from: theschnauzers on September 06, 2012, 02:01:02 PM ---The only way teams could have disembarked on flights and made it to the center of Amsterdam that quickly is if they clear customs into the EU elsewhere.
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You mean like Copenhagen or Helsinki?
DrRox:
--- Quote from: maf on September 07, 2012, 01:12:23 AM ---
--- Quote from: theschnauzers on September 06, 2012, 02:01:02 PM ---The only way teams could have disembarked on flights and made it to the center of Amsterdam that quickly is if they clear customs into the EU elsewhere.
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You mean like Copenhagen or Helsinki?
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Well sort of like the EU. It is really the Schengen Agreement Area. It includes all of the EU and also some other countries that are not members of the EU, ie Norway, iceland, Switzerland and Liechtenstein. The UK and Ireland are members of the EU, but not members of the Schengen Area. I hope that makes sense.
Lithuania is a member of both the EU and Schengen Agreement, so there are no passport controls between Lithuania and Holland.
Neobie:
Exploring TheSchnauzers' postulation that teams could have taken a connecting flight from Moscow to Amsterdam... There are several options that fit our sightings:
SVO-AMS, arriving 0658 (scheduled 0535-0655)
DME-TXL-AMS, arriving 1037 (scheduled 0645-0725 0915-1035)
SVO-FCO-AMS, arriving 1143 (scheduled 0550-0745 0855-1130)
DME-LHR-AMS, arriving 1147 (scheduled 0655-0810 0920-1135)
SVO-AMS, arriving 1231 (scheduled 1045-1215)
VKO-IST-AMS, arriving 1334 (scheduled 0610-0755 1105-1340)
DME-ZRH-AMS, arriving 1326 (scheduled 0910-1050 1155-1330)
DME-GOT-AMS, arriving 1335 (scheduled 0920-1015 1210-1340)
SVO-ARN-AMS, arriving 1513 (scheduled 1050-1055 1310-1515)
SVO-STR-AMS, arriving 1550 (scheduled 1210-1330 1425-1550, very short connection time)
SVO-HAJ-AMS, arriving 1551 (scheduled 1145-1235 1440-1540)
DME-TXL-AMS, arriving 1551 (scheduled 1040-1125 1435-1555)
VKO-FRA-AMS, arriving 1558 (scheduled 0925-1035 1255-1405)
But the two direct flights are just sitting there, amidst all these options, neglected, unused!
Neobie:
Hmm... What if Central Station wasn't the first place they went to in the Netherlands, and a direct flight was actually used?
The first wave of sightings started at 12.29pm, the second started at 4.15pm. This makes a gap of 3 hours and 46 minutes.
Now let's say the first direct flight was used, leaving from Moscow SVO. Since teams will have to clear customs in Amsterdam, let's delay them a little bit, say an hour, for an adjusted arrival time of 7.58am.
The next flight arriving from Moscow SVO (and the one amongst the three blue flights I like best, because it's all on one airline, Alitaia) reaches Schiphol at 11.43am. No customs at Amsterdam, because the flight came via Rome, which is inside Schengen.
KL 902 from Moscow SVO to Amsterdam: 0533-0658 (sch. 0535-0655)
Add one hour for customs: 0658-0758
AZ 595 from Moscow SVO to Rome: 0550-0745 (sch. 0550-0745)
AZ 108 from Rome to Amsterdam: 0910-1143 (sch. 0855-1130)
The time difference between 7.58am and 11.43am is... 3 hours and 45 minutes.
Alright, there'd be a lot of give and take, so it's not that precise. How long would customs actually take? How long did the tasks between the airport and Centraal Station take? How did the train schedules work out? How long did the people using Twitter wait before posting? We'd also still need to find a way for teams to while away 4h30 before arriving at Amsterdam Centraal!
Alenaveda:
Neobie, maybe we should look for the time difference that takes to travel between Amsterdam and the places where the previous RB were located in any way to reach them. What if the RB is the first task of the leg?
(Don't forget that RBs were the first task in legs 1-4-6-9-10-11 of the last season)
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