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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #525 on: January 23, 2010, 10:53:05 AM »
Thanks apskip! Awesome transportation summary.

Another alternative that comes to mind would be for teams to to fly  into MANchester, which is the big international hub for that area, and then drive or take a train from there. I use that hub often, it is an easy airport.

I do wonder whether or not they would let them self drive when that involved driving on the left though? I know they have done it before when it mostly involved motorways, but in a small town it is different.  Some years I drive more miles on the left than I do here, but it is knack, and takes a little time to be comfortable.

I really like the thought of using the trains the best, fun to see!
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #526 on: January 23, 2010, 01:04:12 PM »
Dr. Rox:
You are quite right that the battles of the Somme and the Marne involved overlap with other places on my list of French WWI battlefield. Here is a map of selected battles, including Chateau-Thierry east of Paris by 54 miles and a small distance east of Reims as #3:

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« Reply #527 on: January 23, 2010, 01:45:38 PM »
There's one other issue on the Beatles leg/event in terms of transportation, especially if teams were sent to Liverpool rather than Hamburg.

The weather. Even during late November and early December, the weather in the UK and Europe was stormy and cased a lot of rail delays. Eurostar was closed several times (I recall reading it was closed for days at one point during the holiday period, which was just after filming ended.)

If we have some dates, it might be worthwhile to check the weather for the cities in England, France, and Germany to see if it helps point one way or the other.

An is there any chance teams went to Hamburg, and then had to go to Liverpool, and then Northern France? If Hamburg was only a route marker or for half a leg or something, it would still move teams along.

As to the Beatles' connections btw, there's always Abbey Road in London.
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #528 on: January 23, 2010, 01:51:27 PM »
Thanks apskip! Awesome transportation summary.

Another alternative that comes to mind would be for teams to to fly  into MANchester, which is the big international hub for that area, and then drive or take a train from there. I use that hub often, it is an easy airport.

I do wonder whether or not they would let them self drive when that involved driving on the left though? I know they have done it before when it mostly involved motorways, but in a small town it is different.  Some years I drive more miles on the left than I do here, but it is knack, and takes a little time to be comfortable.

I really like the thought of using the trains the best, fun to see!

Just for you, Peach, the connections to Manchester. Having connections in Heathrow to Manchester is a big plus which Liverpool does not have. From Sao Paulo there are 4 good ones departing in the evening:

GRU LHR BA246 1815 0715+1
LHR MAN BA1386 0855+1 0955+1

GRU FRA LH507 2005 1035+1
FRA MAN LH4852 1200+1 1240+1

GRU ZRH LX093 2030 1105+1
ZRH MAN LX394 1215+1 1310+1

GRU LHR JJ8084 2350 1325+1
LHR  MAN BA1396 1515+1 1615+1

There are also 3 combinations from Buenos Aires:

EZE LHR BA246 (same one as above stopping in GRU) 1315 0715+1
LHR MAN BA1386 0855+1 0955+1

EZE CDG AF417 1800 1100+1
CDG MAN AF2268 1315+1 1345+1

EZE FRA LH511 2150 1500+1
FRA MAN LH4856 1705+1 1745+1

to get from Manchester airport directly to Liverpool Lime Street, there are trains leaving at 41 after most hours of the day and arriving 1 hour 7 minutes later.

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #529 on: January 23, 2010, 01:54:35 PM »
There's one other issue on the Beatles leg/event in terms of transportation, especially if teams were sent to Liverpool rather than Hamburg.

The weather. Even during late November and early December, the weather in the UK and Europe was stormy and cased a lot of rail delays. Eurostar was closed several times (I recall reading it was closed for days at one point during the holiday period, which was just after filming ended.)

If we have some dates, it might be worthwhile to check the weather for the cities in England, France, and Germany to see if it helps point one way or the other.

An is there any chance teams went to Hamburg, and then had to go to Liverpool, and then Northern France? If Hamburg was only a route marker or for half a leg or something, it would still move teams along.

As to the Beatles' connections btw, there's always Abbey Road in London.

the Schnauzers, you say several worthy things, but Abbey Road could not have been part of the Beatles early history. That was in Liverpool and Hamburg in 1957 through 1961, followed by their world success, then doing Abbey Road starting in 1969.


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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #530 on: January 23, 2010, 04:16:50 PM »
There's one other issue on the Beatles leg/event in terms of transportation, especially if teams were sent to Liverpool rather than Hamburg.

The weather. Even during late November and early December, the weather in the UK and Europe was stormy and cased a lot of rail delays. Eurostar was closed several times (I recall reading it was closed for days at one point during the holiday period, which was just after filming ended.)

If we have some dates, it might be worthwhile to check the weather for the cities in England, France, and Germany to see if it helps point one way or the other.

An is there any chance teams went to Hamburg, and then had to go to Liverpool, and then Northern France? If Hamburg was only a route marker or for half a leg or something, it would still move teams along.

As to the Beatles' connections btw, there's always Abbey Road in London.

Weather from Dec 5-10 in  Liverpool is listed as upper 40's, no precip, winds 10-20mph...but "events" say rain and fog. Not bad actually. :lol:

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/EGGP/2009/12/5/DailyHistory.html?req_city=Liverpool&req_state=&req_statename=United+Kingdom
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #531 on: January 23, 2010, 04:41:46 PM »
I'm not sold on the one source pointing towards Liverpool yet, because the article might have been the result of a misunderstanding by that writer.

But then, we only have one spoiled article pointing towards Germany (in general), but the reference to the early days of the Beatles can be seen as support, Or maybe for both. If those dates seem pretty solid for the Europen legs, then checking all of the various possible venues would be worth while, if for no other reason than to see if weather might have caused a last minute change in any of the legs. (Think Family Edition and Belize.)
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #532 on: January 23, 2010, 05:09:22 PM »
I'm not sold on the one source pointing towards Liverpool yet, because the article might have been the result of a misunderstanding by that writer.

But then, we only have one spoiled article pointing towards Germany (in general), but the reference to the early days of the Beatles can be seen as support, Or maybe for both. If those dates seem pretty solid for the Europen legs, then checking all of the various possible venues would be worth while, if for no other reason than to see if weather might have caused a last minute change in any of the legs. (Think Family Edition and Belize.)

I have read 3 articles were Liverpool, England is mentioned. All three are by respected sources that are given Press Reports by CBS. It says  Beatles-centric puzzle in Liverpool, England as being a loction they visit this season.

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #533 on: January 23, 2010, 05:10:01 PM »
There are multiple articles out there now, theschnauzers, I think we are seeing a later press release.

http://www.etonline.com/gallery/featured/2010/01/83179/index.html

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a grueling World War I reenactment in France, retracing the early days of iconic rock group The Beatles in England and facing off with one of the world's most infamous villains.

I don't thtink there is any doubt any more, reporters don't make this stuff up, they work with the info they are given.

And weather during that time doesn't seem to be an issue in Liverpool, just another rainy day in the UK!


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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #534 on: January 23, 2010, 05:16:43 PM »
When they say facing off with one of the world's most infamous villains is that talking about England or some other location they visit?


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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #535 on: January 23, 2010, 05:23:07 PM »
I think it is another location. In spec the theory seems to be Darth Vador... :vader: If they had said universe and not world, we would know for sure!!

We know there were Storm Troopers at Lucas Films, Chateau and I got with-out-a-doubt confirmation of that.


Here is a nice article on Beatle mania week in Liverpool...did y'all know that 2010 marks the 40th anniversary of the Beatles breakup?? I didn't...

http://www.americanwaymag.com/the-beatles-liverpool-john-lennon-george-harrison

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There are many other similar Beatles points of interest around town to see as well, and the best way to hit them all is on a Magical Mystery Tour, which is offered not just during the Beatle Week festivities but year-round. The two-hour bus tour, accompanied by a soundtrack of Beatles tunes (appropriately matched to the sites), takes passengers to all four members’ childhood homes as well as to Penny Lane, Strawberry Field, and St. Peter’s Church in Woolton, where Lennon and McCartney first met at a fete in 1957 and where Eleanor Rigby is supposedly buried.
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #536 on: January 23, 2010, 05:31:35 PM »
There are multiple articles out there now, theschnauzers, I think we are seeing a later press release.

http://www.etonline.com/gallery/featured/2010/01/83179/index.html

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a grueling World War I reenactment in France, retracing the early days of iconic rock group The Beatles in England and facing off with one of the world's most infamous villains.

I don't thtink there is any doubt any more, reporters don't make this stuff up, they work with the info they are given.

And weather during that time doesn't seem to be an issue in Liverpool, just another rainy day in the UK!


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I do think CBS is fine tuning their press releases a little more. This one

"Presumed Liverpool" Press Release

was from Thur, Jan 21,2010. It says "presumably Liverpool". I like Liverpool for "early years of Beatles".

Edited the date per Peache's question below.
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #537 on: January 23, 2010, 05:45:45 PM »
I think that one is from Thursday the 21st? I saw it in the flurry that day.

SO we moved from presumed trip to The Beatles in London to a puzzle.

Running around Liverpool finding the locations would be a puzzle. :lol:
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #538 on: January 25, 2010, 01:32:36 PM »
From: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100121/ap_en_tv/us_tv_amazing_race16
LOS ANGELES – Jet and Cord McCoy, a pair of bull-riding brothers from Tupelo, Okla., are among the 11 teams competing on the upcoming 16th edition of CBS's "The Amazing Race." Other teams competing this season include a grandmother and granddaughter, a father and daughter, married high-school sweethearts, and a couple of attorney moms.

Jet, 30, and Cord, 29, who have both competed on the International Professional Rodeo Association circuit, said they were not daunted by their competition for the $1 million grand prize on the reality show premiering Feb. 14 (8 p.m. EST).

"We ride bucking bulls and horses," said Jet. "If we're gonna be intimidated, it's not by another team."

"I can ride a horse as fast as they can go," said Cord.

The biggest hurdle facing Louis Stravato, 47, and Michael Naylor, 45, at the beginning of the race was their backpacks. After seeing the behemoth bags carried by the Harlem Globtrotters last season, the longtime buddies and narcotics detectives from Providence, R.I., chose not to pack lightly. They ended up ditching clothes along the way.

"We are the two biggest idiots," said Stravato. "Before the race, we kept telling ourselves that the cameramen were going to have to check their stuff, so we would be able to check our giant 90-liter bags while we were racing around the world. When we got to the starting line and saw all these small bags on everybody else, we knew we were in big trouble."

A few of this season's contestants have previously been in the spotlight, including former "Big Brother" houseguests Jordan Lloyd, 22, and Jeff Schroeder, 31, as well as former Miss Teen South Carolina Caitlin Upton, 20, who is racing with her boyfriend, Brent Horne, 28. Upton said she wanted to redeem herself on the race after her infamous 2007 pageant flub involving a confused and mangled response to a geography question.

"People always picture me as the typical pageant girl, and I'm not at all," said Upton. "I've only been in five pageants. I'm actually a very athletic person. I'm just tired of being represented from that standpoint. I want to show people who I really am as a person, that I am capable of accomplishing anything and doing anything I put my mind to."

Lloyd and Schroeder, who began dating after Lloyd won the 11th season of "Big Brother" last summer, said fans of the claustrophobic reality show might be surprised to see how much the duo bickered on the 16th season of "The Amazing Race," which was filmed last November and December and spanned nearly 40,000 miles across five continents and eight countries.

"I wasn't prepared for how much we had to work together," admitted Schroeder.

"He wanted to ring my neck," added Lloyd, "and other times I wanted to kill him."

"Jordan, I was trying to say it in a nice way," said Schroeder.

For the first time, when the teams departed "The Amazing Race" starting line, they had to rely solely on public transportation — no rental cars, no taxis — to make their way from downtown Los Angeles to the airport, a world-class challenge in itself. Executive producer Bertram van Munster said the racers then headed to Valparaiso, Chile. Other stops included France and the Seychelles.

"We have never been to that place before," van Munster said of the lush island destination off the east coast of Africa. "We were looking into going to Africa, but I couldn't find any countries that would fit into the entire scheme of the race, and I wanted to go to an original place. It's very beautiful. It's very remote. It takes forever to get there."

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #539 on: January 25, 2010, 03:28:45 PM »
 :groan: Please read before you post misterblah.

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #540 on: January 25, 2010, 03:53:15 PM »
The weather in the UK at the start of December was typical autumn weather, no major snow or storms until the 18th. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8421994.stm

The 8th of Dec is the anniversary of John Lennon's death, also there was a film about John Lennon's early life called nowhere boy released at the beginning of December.

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When they say facing off with one of the world's most infamous villains is that talking about England or some other location they visit?

I think this is probably to do with the WW2 re-enactment, what with Hitler being involved and all. 

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #541 on: January 25, 2010, 03:58:56 PM »
The weather in the UK at the start of December was typical autumn weather, no major snow or storms until the 18th. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8421994.stm

The 8th of Dec is the anniversary of John Lennon's death, also there was a film about John Lennon's early life called nowhere boy released at the beginning of December.

THe
When they say facing off with one of the world's most infamous villains is that talking about England or some other location they visit?

I think this is probably to do with the WW2 re-enactment, what with Hitler being involved and all.  


It is a World War I battle they re-enact not World War II.

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #542 on: January 25, 2010, 04:29:34 PM »
The weather in the UK at the start of December was typical autumn weather, no major snow or storms until the 18th. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/kent/8421994.stm

The 8th of Dec is the anniversary of John Lennon's death, also there was a film about John Lennon's early life called nowhere boy released at the beginning of December.

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When they say facing off with one of the world's most infamous villains is that talking about England or some other location they visit?

I think this is probably to do with the WW2 re-enactment, what with Hitler being involved and all.  


It is a World War I battle they re-enact not World War II.

Ooops got a bit caught up.

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #543 on: January 25, 2010, 04:33:01 PM »
We have been discussing the villain in the speculation (remember speculation, lol?)  thread...chances are it could be Darth Vader.
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #544 on: January 26, 2010, 08:04:03 AM »
oopsie! sorry! but just so you know, again, you should add two more locations: The Seychelles and France so you might wanna put that in your timeline.  :tup:
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #545 on: January 27, 2010, 01:16:35 PM »
oopsie! sorry! but just so you know, again, you should add two more locations: The Seychelles and France so you might wanna put that in your timeline.  :tup:
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They are already listed on the first page in this thread, which is updated more frequently with the lastest information. Both locations were confirmed by CBS when the cast was released last week.  ;)

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #546 on: January 28, 2010, 03:24:45 PM »
When they say facing off with one of the world's most infamous villains is that talking about England or some other location they visit?

I thought Jack the Ripper for a while, but since we know they go see Darth Vader in San Fran, thats probably it!
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« Reply #547 on: January 28, 2010, 07:08:08 PM »

I am both pleased and very saddened to be able to update you on our Shanghai leg. Pleased because it is great information, saddened because it re-confirms what we already expected about the Philimination.. :'(

Slowhatch found a wonderful blog written by swoonist, who is currently working, living, and studying in Shanghai.

She wrote (in the process of showing a friend around Shanghai):

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We spent one day doing the touristy things of Shanghai.  We went over to Lujiazui to see the Pearl Tower and to go up the Shanghai World Financial Center building - currently the third tallest building in the world (according to wiki).  It’s the one that many of us think looks like a ‘bottle-opener’. After wandering about Lujiazui for a bit and grabbing a late lunch at Din Tai Fung, we eventually made it to the Riverside Promenade so that we could get a look across the river to the Bund on the Puxi side. We are standing around in the freezing cold, next to the freezing cold river when THE MOST AMAZING THING HAPPENED!

A few people run past us. The first thing that runs through my mind was, “oh no, they’re trying to steal my purse!” And then we saw the camera crew. Second thought that runs through my mind, “ITS THE AMAZING RACE!” Well, that was my theory at least.  I’ve always thought it would be pretty cool if I came across the Amazing Race during my time abroad. Michelle and I start running after them and ask them what they were filming for and the guy answers with the two coolest words, “Amazing Race.”

OH. MY. GOODNESS. At this point I couldn’t believe what was happening before my eyes. Ultimately, we found the pit stop for this leg of the race and waited around long enough to:

    1.    see two teams check in. Including the last team to arrive. I have no idea whether it was a non-elimination leg or not though
    2.    see one of the world’s tallest men. He’s a Chinese man and quite tall. Though I heard soon after that he just recently lost his title to someone else. He needed walking canes to help him stand though.
    3.    see the production crew of The Amazing Race.
    4.    see Phil, the host.
    5.    say “hi, I love this show” and get a photo with Phil.

The crew in charge of keeping the area clear of bystanders was nice enough to let Michi and I stand around. I believe they let us because they could tell we weren’t locals from our American accents and probably figured we could do no harm. Truth is, some Chinese locals will treat you differently once they know you’re a foreigner ... even if we are ethnically Chinese.

After that cold, amazing experience, Michi and I headed across the Huangpu River back to Puxi where we grabbed some dinner and took a walk down Nanjing Road. It’s just a shopping street but at night it’s all lit up and you can people watch. Weather: still cold
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You can read much more about her experiences here:
http://swoonist.livejournal.com/124177.html


She is an absolute delight, and has very kindly responded to my huge list of questions, and graciously shared not only her story but her photos as well...so the credit for all of this goes to swoonist, with a big :ty from all of us.

She replied:

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The Pit Stop was on the Pudong side of the river (Lujiazui) along the Riverside Promenade. The exact location was the area that is directly in front of the Starbucks and Shangri-la Hotel. I saw them on Saturday, December 19 around 6pm-8pm (China time). The tall Chinese guy was the greeter. I hope this information helps you guys out with your TAR timeline.


Thanks to slowhatch, here's an Interactive map link with the starbucks




She also adds:

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While they were waiting for the team to arrive, Phil would help hold up the protective covering to keep the Chinese greeter warm. Since the Pit Stop was right next to the river and it was a really cold winter night, there were a few helpers who would help cover the greeter (probably not in perfect health due to his large body frame) from the cold.


She was incredibly fortunate in being able to obtain some photographs, and has shared those with us!! :hearts: I have lightened and brightened them a bit so we can see better...

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The first was taken in between the second to the last team and the last team to arrive. And the rest were pictures of Phil talking to the last team to arrive.  All photos were taken after the second to last team had already checked in and left the area.  My friend and I ran up to the area just as the second to last team were hugging each other and speaking to Phil.






The last team then arrived:








The exif data for the first photo reads 12/19/09 at 18:55:40

From swoonist:
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I dont have many pictures to show because they initially refused to let us take photos. ........  So I was only able to get pictures of the last team to the Pit Stop.  In the photos, you will see the Chinese greeter (in full costume), Phil, and the male/male team that I think is Louie and Michael (tall and short males).  The photo was taken just before the last team arrived and after they had "checked-in" and Phil has that short conversation with them.


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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #548 on: January 28, 2010, 07:09:00 PM »
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I dont have many pictures to show because they initially refused to let us take photos.......So I was only able to get pictures of the last team to the Pit Stop.  


SO the next big question is WHO was the first team that swoonist saw?? Which was the second to last team to arrive, hence becoming the third place team in the Shanghai leg, and one of the Final Three.

I referred her to some team photos:, and she replied:

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The last 2 teams to check in were both male/male teams. Judging from the CBS website of the cast, I would say that the second to the last team was Daniel and Jordan and the last team was Louie and Michael. The second to the last team to check in were male/male and they weren't wearing cowboy hats (my assumption is that the cowboy team wears their hats throughout the race? I have no idea, haha). This second to the last team actually ran past my friend and me, but they ran in the wrong direction because a few minutes later they doubled back in the direction of the Pit Stop. The last team to check in was a tall male and a shorter male. They arrived at the Pit Stop almost 2 hours after the team before them. It seemed like Phil talked to the last team for quite awhile.

I think that is all that I have. I only saw the Pit Stop area and none of the tasks.


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 All photos were taken after the hatless m/m team had already checked in and left the area.  My friend and I ran up to the area just as the hatless m/m team were hugging each other and speaking to Phil.


She and I have discussed again which team it could have been. It is definitely a "hatless" M/M team, and based on photos, she believes seems more likely to be Jordan and Daniel.

We discussed if the cowboys could have been hatless and where they would have put them, if so. :lol:

She did say:
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Sorry I don't have pictures of any more teams.  But the other team I saw were definitely m/m and they didn't have any cowboy hats on. Maybe they decided to take their hats off during that part of the race? It was a little windy near the river and maybe they didn't want their hats to fly off?


So I think as the show airs, we can all watch to see how the "cowboys" handle their hats, and if they indeed wear them all the time. If so, then the last team seen checking into the final three becomes Jordan and Daniel. Until then, the team is the "hatless M/M team".


Some miscellaneous info:

The buildings behind them are part of a group of buildings known as "The Bund" in Shanghai.  They are located on the Puxi (Western) side of the Huangpu River.  So the brightly lit buildings you see are across the river.  There should be information about them on wikipedia. The Pit Stop was on the Pudong (Eastern) side of the Huangpu River in the Lujiazui area (where the Oriental Pearl Tower, Jin Mao Tower, the Shanghai World Financial Center and Super Brand Mall are).

wiki info on the Bund: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bund

Possible building behind from slowhatch:
I see something here, across the river from the starbucks; it has a similar shape, but the name translates only as "new bund building."

It's south of the Mcbain building. Look at the building with the cupolas next to the Attica nightclub.

I wondered if it could be:
Russo-Chinese Bank Building (No. 15, The Bund) is now the Shanghai Foreign Exchange. 

Here's the English and translated Chinese version (click the thumbnail to enlarge). It's not big enough to be listed with Emporis, but I found a streetview for you. And here's a shot of the Starbucks taken from the ShangriLa hotel.

And also wondered if this was the greeter:
Could this be the tallest man??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bao_Xishun
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #549 on: January 28, 2010, 07:16:32 PM »
That is sad!   :'(

Here is our greeter:  Bao Xishun who is quite famous