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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #500 on: January 21, 2010, 09:20:29 PM »
Ypres is way NW.

I really don't trust Paraquay.

This was the first thread I read this afternoon. After reading all the other posts today, Paraguay has to be out. That was good deception. But I think it is very easy to fly into Hamburg and for the teams to make their way to Paris with either 2/3 legs on land only travel. Then fly out of Paris to the Seyschelles.

When the Beatles first started going to Hamburg, I think they were called the Quarymen......changed to Beatles later.

The Beatles were initially named Quarrymen.

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #501 on: January 21, 2010, 09:23:29 PM »
And also, the late George Harrison had his own estate located on Seychelles as well, in the island of FRÉGATE, and here's the link:

George Harrison and the other Beatles have estates all over the world! Basic Google search of "early days of Beatles" point to Hamburg or Liverpool. Will CBS be releasing a route map soon?
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #502 on: January 21, 2010, 09:43:16 PM »
Will CBS be releasing a route map soon?

Hope not! I like Neobie's better and it is more fun to puzzle it out.
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #503 on: January 21, 2010, 09:56:52 PM »
Remember that the World War I reenactment doesn't actually have to take place on an actual battlefield! Don't know why, but I've a gut feeling on Strasbourg.

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #504 on: January 21, 2010, 09:59:36 PM »
I have been looking at all the nonstop flights possible to get to Mahe International Airport in the Seychelles from Europe. The best is clearly from Paris-CDG. The others are:

 Frankfurt [ends 11 April]
 London-Heathrow
 Milan-Malpensa
 Moscow-Vnukovo
 Paris-Charles de Gaulle
 Rome-Fiumicino
 Zürich [ends 15 April]

Connecting flights are also possible through Doha and Dubai.


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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #505 on: January 21, 2010, 10:22:45 PM »
I am going to issue a location for an activity. The hang-gliding/birdman task would make sense in the Andean summer if it started from the top of a ski slope above Bariloche. I have seen a Bariloche area video with hang-gliding.

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #506 on: January 21, 2010, 11:09:38 PM »
Remember that the World War I reenactment doesn't actually have to take place on an actual battlefield! Don't know why, but I've a gut feeling on Strasbourg.
Strasbourg is a TGV ride away from CDG airport. Also, if one were to draw a line between Hamburg and Strasbourg, Frankfurt would be on that line.  :tup:

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #507 on: January 22, 2010, 04:39:08 AM »
Ypres is way NW.

I really don't trust Paraquay.

This was the first thread I read this afternoon. After reading all the other posts today, Paraguay has to be out. That was good deception. But I think it is very easy to fly into Hamburg and for the teams to make their way to Paris with either 2/3 legs on land only travel. Then fly out of Paris to the Seyschelles.

When the Beatles first started going to Hamburg, I think they were called the Quarymen......changed to Beatles later.

The Beatles were initially named Quarrymen.
Quarrymen?  Having Gargoyles flashbacks from seeing that name.

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #508 on: January 22, 2010, 06:17:09 AM »
Remember that the World War I reenactment doesn't actually have to take place on an actual battlefield! Don't know why, but I've a gut feeling on Strasbourg.
The city of Strasbourg wasn't destroyed nor a battleground during the First World War but here are some of the lists of battles that are fought on that event which is mostly found within the Western Front (from France to Belgium) and these are:

1. Battle of Ypres (in Belgium)
2. Battle of Marne (in France)
3. Battle of Verdun (in France)
4. Battle of the Somme (in France)

see one of those infos about World War I battles and Western Front at wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Front_(World_War_I)

my wishlists:

1. Hopefully they don't use chemical warfares during their tasks in France just like what happened during World War I.  It's very dangerous for the TAR 16 racers. :-[

2. And also, their pit stop should be in the city of Ypres in Belgium so that it'll be the 1st time to be feature on TAR, not in France itself.  And it's been a long time that Belgium didn't visited it for this show since season 1 (thanks to India and China). (:;)

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #509 on: January 22, 2010, 06:33:09 AM »
Ypres is way NW.

I really don't trust Paraquay.
Peach:
It's not often you make a geography goof, but it looks like you have here. Ypres is in the Southwest part of Belgium. Since I am not sure precisely what you were getting at, Paris is also west of the entire country of Belgium. I made one too, as I believed Mons was in northern France when it really is in Belgium. Here is a schematic map of Belgium to illustrate where Ypres is:


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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #510 on: January 22, 2010, 09:49:00 AM »
Ypres is way NW.

I really don't trust Paraquay.
Peach:
It's not often you make a geography goof, but it looks like you have here. Ypres is in the Southwest part of Belgium. Since I am not sure precisely what you were getting at, Paris is also west of the entire country of Belgium. I made one too, as I believed Mons was in northern France when it really is in Belgium. Here is a schematic map of Belgium to illustrate where Ypres is:




Cool map, AP. Brings back a lot of fond memories.

As to Peach's geography goof, I guess its all in the interpretation. I might have read more into what Peach said, but I took her comment to mean the location of the Ypres battlefield in relatonship to all the other famous battlefields that took place in the area of your map. It would be very hard to find a battle field farther NW on your map, than maybe Dunkirk, which was WWII. All of the other major battlefields are either south or southeast of Ypres. So in that context, I too believe that the Ypres battlefield is just way to far NW.

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #511 on: January 22, 2010, 10:31:58 AM »
Not sure if you have seen this blurb from this travel blog but could this possibly be where the grandmother/granddaughter duo were eliminated?
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Bariloche was beautiful but windy and cold - bring not just "layers" but a heavy coat, gloves, scarf, thermal undewear. The young sheep farm host was hilarious and the farm will be featured on the Amazing Race in February.

It was posted Jan 5, 2010. I believe the name of the sheep farm is Fortin Chjacabuco sheep ranch

Here's the link https://www.gct.com/gcc/general/default.aspx?oid=269504
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #512 on: January 22, 2010, 10:37:15 AM »
I am used to calling that part of France the NW coast.. just included that bit of Belgium as well. It is an area well known to me. Ypres just seems too far "out", aside from the fact that it is in Begium not France. :lol:

I have sent out some feelers to several historical reenactment groups, will see if they can turn up anything.
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #513 on: January 22, 2010, 10:46:28 AM »
Not sure if you have seen this blurb from this travel blog but could this possibly be where the grandmother/granddaughter duo were eliminated?

Bariloche was beautiful but windy and cold - bring not just "layers" but a heavy coat, gloves, scarf, thermal undewear. The young sheep farm host was hilarious and the farm will be featured on the Amazing Race in February.

It was posted Jan 5, 2010. I believe the name of the sheep farm is Fortin Chjacabuco sheep ranch

Here's the link https://www.gct.com/gcc/general/default.aspx?oid=269504

Wonderful find ams06!! This looks great and gives us another task location in the Bariloche area!

Here is the location and their website:

Estancia Fortín Chacabuco - Ruta 40  Km 2061 - Neuquén - Patagonia Argentina

http://www.estanciaspatagonicas.com/laestancia_en.htm

Sheep shearing anyone?? I didn't see any LLAMA pictures though.  :duno:

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #514 on: January 22, 2010, 10:51:20 AM »
Here is another map link for the area if anyone can spot it better: Googling 2041 km didn't get me anywhere! :lol: General location foor exploring only, the "A" is another hotel.


http://maps.google.es/maps?f=d&saddr=-41.242885,-71.462567&daddr=&hl=en&geocode=&mra=dme&mrcr=0&mrsp=0&sz=16&sll=-41.242788,-71.459563&sspn=0.009406,0.016136&ie=UTF8&ll=-41.228765,-71.427784&spn=0.079786,0.132523&t=h&z=13

Interestingly, some of the other hotels in the area offer a ropes course...
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #515 on: January 22, 2010, 12:33:35 PM »
is this it? ^^^^^^

Follow up Bariloche


Leopoldo Tiberi, responsible for communication of Tourism Promotion Combined Entity (Emprotur) from Bariloche, stressed that the implementation is an enormous promotional value. "

The Amazing Race (The Great Race), reality show competition of the American CBS network broadcast worldwide, recorded one of the stages in Bariloche, before continuing the filming in Germany, said the tourist promotional agency of the city .

The filming was done days ago on location on el río Limay River
 


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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #516 on: January 22, 2010, 12:52:30 PM »
Yes!! That's it!!

Oh wow, I REALLY need to reread the whole entire spoiler thread post by post. :(  These little links are so PC but darn, I miss stuff.
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #517 on: January 22, 2010, 12:56:11 PM »
Yes!! That's it!!

Oh wow, I REALLY need to reread the whole entire spoiler thread post by post. :(  These little links are so PC but darn, I miss stuff.
I haven't fought my way through the speculation thread yet peach and I know there is some good info in there that I missed....... somewhere  :lol:

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #518 on: January 22, 2010, 12:57:17 PM »
Slowhatch ..yeah! :jam:


Thanks, Puddin. The site in the photo is south of the estancia, so maybe the ranch is the pit stop.

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #519 on: January 22, 2010, 02:37:24 PM »
I have been digging out information for all around Nahuel Huapi National Park. I finally found something that actual mentions delta wing paragliding:

La Angostura incorporated to its gentle urban layout a golf course, a "country" (gated residential compound), a ski center in Mt Bayo (meaning and an excellent hotel infrastructure facing lakes Nahuel Huapi and Correntoso).

The latter fact makes it specially suited to the practicing of nautical activities, especially fishing, all kinds of navigation (windsurf, sailboats and cruise ships) and, obviously, trekking, horse riding, mountain biking, hang-gliding and delta wing gliding.


La Angostura is highlighted on Peach's fine map. I consider it NW of Bariloche, but the direction from where the Limay River flows is SW to NE, entering Nahuel Huapi Lake at its further south point near Bariloche. Its most salient feature for delta wing gliding is that up Cerro Bayo there are no fewer than two double chairlifts, five teleskis, a T-Bar teleski and two Baby-Lifts, with a total uphill capacity of 4,500 an hour.
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #520 on: January 22, 2010, 03:54:35 PM »
nvm... I need to be in spec or the promo thread.
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #521 on: January 23, 2010, 02:05:58 AM »
Bringing this over from Sailing's find in spec:

It appears that it may be Liverpool instead of Hamburg, based on this press release:

http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/tube-talk/tv-news/2010/01/amazing-race-returns-feb-14-here-are-the-teams/


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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #522 on: January 23, 2010, 07:19:38 AM »
Although this doesn't jive with the Patagonian newspaper and could be a mistake...

England could potentially host the Birdman Rally in the preview, and a short train/ferry ride to our WWI battlefield!

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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #523 on: January 23, 2010, 09:40:35 AM »
Although this doesn't jive with the Patagonian newspaper and could be a mistake...

England could potentially host the Birdman Rally in the preview, and a short train/ferry ride to our WWI battlefield!

Neobie, Liverpool is feasible and 392 miles from Paris (vs. 465 miles for Hamburg) and the Beatles ties to Liverpool are obvious.

Here are two sets of flight combinations from Sao Paulo to Liverpool via Munich and Amsterdam or London and Amsterdam:

LH505 GRU MUC 1440 0520+1
LH4690 MUC AMS 0635+1 0810+1 (note - KL1790 does the same route 0655 0845
KL1037 AMS LPL 1010 1035+1

JJ8084 GRU LHR 2350 1325+1
BD111 LHR AMS 1600+1 1820+1 (note - BA   does the same route 1630+1 1845+1)
KL1045 AMS LPL 2035+1 2100+1

Here are sets of flight combinations from Buenos Aires to Liverpool via Madrid and Amsterdam:

IB6844 EZE MAD 2240 1430+1
IB3250 MAD AMS 1550+1 1820+1 (note - KL1704 does the same route 1655 1940)
KL1045 AMS LPL 2035+1 2100+1

There is also another equivalent route through Rome and Amsterdam that provides nothing different in terms of departure or arrival times. My conclusion, as previously stated, is that GRU is a superior place to take the north-north-east transatlantic crossing unless you could not get there before 2pm.

I have found something truly extraordinary for flights from London nonstop to Liverpool - they do not exist, not just from Heathrow but form any of the several London area airports. I have to assume that BritRail has created this situation. If AR16 teams were allowed to, they should not be going from London to Amsterdam to get to Liverpool, as that is ridiculous. They should get to London's Euston station and take BritRail to Liverpool's Lime Street station. THis train departs 1607 and arrives 1815.

It does not make a lot of sense for AR16 teams to fly from Liverpool to a WWI battlefield in northern France. The logical place to arrive would be Lille and it takes 6 hours and 2 connections to get there. It makes more sense for a train from Liverpool to the Chunnel, then probably in Lille making connections to go by rail to Amiens or Arras.

Here is a list of Eurostar trains from London - St. Pancras to Lille:

06:20     09:07     01h47m     9108     
08:27    10:54    01h27m    9120     
11:04    13:26    01h22m    9126  
12:57        15:24         01h27m      9132
14:04    16:24    01h20m    9030

On the front of that is the schedule from Liverpool to London from 6am to noon:

Liverpool Lime Street   London Euston   2/02/10 - 06:05   2/02/10 - 08:22      2 h 17 min    Regular   0605   
Liverpool Lime Street   London Euston   2/02/10 - 07:00   2/02/10 - 09:01      2 h 1 min    Regular   0700
Liverpool Lime Street   London Euston   2/02/10 - 07:48   2/02/10 - 09:56      2 h 8 min    Regular   0748
Liverpool Lime Street   London Euston   2/02/10 - 08:48   2/02/10 - 10:56      2 h 8 min    Regular   0848       
Liverpool Lime Street   London Euston   2/02/10 - 09:48   2/02/10 - 11:56      2 h 8 min    Regular   0948
Liverpool Lime Street   London Euston   2/02/10 - 10:48   2/02/10 - 12:58      2 h 10 min    Regular   1048
Liverpool Lime Street   London Euston   2/02/10 - 11:48   2/02/10 - 13:56      2 h 8 min    Regular   1148

from Euston station, a brief London subway ride will get you to St. Pancras station for the departure of the Eurostar trains.

Lille is the major city and transit hub for northern France, so it will be easy to get trains going to a lot of places. We do not yet know which battlefield was selected, but it will probably be on of these:


Aisne
Argonne Forest/Meuse River
Arras (several battles of the Somme were actually a little south of the city in addition to being in it)
Amiens
Belleau Woods (thanks, Dr. Rox, I forgot that one)
Cambrai
Champagne
Chateau-Thierry
Le Cateau
Guise
Loos-en-Gohel
the Marne region
Messines
Neuve Chapel
the Somme region/Peronne/Picardy
St. Mihiel
Verdun
Vimy Ridge
Verdun

 
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Re: The Amazing Race 16 Destinations/Locations
« Reply #524 on: January 23, 2010, 10:39:49 AM »
One a Marine, always a........


Belleau Woods (thanks, Dr. Rox, I forgot that one)

Chateau-Thierry

The Battle of Belleau Wood was the battle that the US Marine Corps. go the nickname "devil dogs" from the Germans. Since we had that Marine Corps new release, it made sense to me. The only reenactment of Belleau Wood I have found was last June in Virgina.

Still looking for Chateau-Thierry. It was a US Army battel. Both of these battles are considered part of the Battle for the Marne.
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