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Offline hotriceguy

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Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« on: November 14, 2014, 09:44:08 PM »
Well I simply just wanna complain about the Amazing Race page on Wikipedia.
I saw someone "rewrite" everything in the Wikipedia pages from point forms to a big, chronological paragraph.
In my opinion, this change really bug me (person whom don't like reading books) to read them.

If anyone here is the editor or know any of them, please (tell them to) change it back to the ORIGINAL STYLE.  (:;) (:;) (:;)

P.S: They erased all the unaired information.  :'(

Examples:
Old Style: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_7
New Style: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Race_25

This arrogant and obnoxious guy is the person who is responsible of this editing/
Ryulong: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ryulong
« Last Edit: November 14, 2014, 11:06:03 PM by hotriceguy »
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Re: The Wikipedia pages for the summaries of the races
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2014, 09:46:03 PM »
I agree, but it probably is just because we've seen the pages in the "old style" for several years. I don't mind the paragraph that much, but I dislike the way the Detour and Roadblock tittles are edited in the route summary.
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Re: The Wikipedia pages for the summaries of the races
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2014, 10:14:46 PM »
I just saw this and I HATE this tbh

#BringtheOldStyleBack
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Re: The Wikipedia pages for the summaries of the races
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2014, 10:22:24 PM »
I agree, but it probably is just because we've seen the pages in the "old style" for several years. I don't mind the paragraph that much, but I dislike the way the Detour and Roadblock tittles are edited in the route summary.
I totally agree!!! The route summary is a mess now! Especially when the roadblock/detour title is placed in front of the location.
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Re: The Wikipedia pages for the summaries of the races
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2014, 10:24:02 PM »
I just saw this and I HATE this tbh

#BringtheOldStyleBack

It seems like there's a feud up there among all the TAR editors. They just enforce their way without taking others' opinions.

I think people in this forum should be the ones who edit the page, after all the discussion on this forum.  blahblah
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Re: The Wikipedia pages for the summaries of the races
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2014, 10:37:48 PM »
I just saw this and I HATE this tbh

#BringtheOldStyleBack

It seems like there's a feud up there among all the TAR editors. They just enforce their way without taking others' opinions.

I think people in this forum should be the ones who edit the page, after all the discussion on this forum.  blahblah
I would be more than happy to!
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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2014, 10:58:20 PM »
You all DO know that RFF has our OWN wiki, right??

You all can help with any of the sites! Here is the TAR one:

http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=Portal:The_Amazing_Race

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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2014, 11:02:00 PM »
Ryulong...lol you poor soul,dealing with him

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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2014, 11:08:07 PM »
I has account on Wikipedia, named Roif456, but I can't handle over 10 pages about TAR. I just use the account for correcting/edit mistakes on Wikipedia, and watchlist. But I hope could do more than stated above.

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That's edit of TAR on Wikipedia, is horrible!
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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2014, 11:08:28 PM »
You all DO know that RFF has our OWN wiki, right??

You all can help with any of the sites! Here is the TAR one:

http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=Portal:The_Amazing_Race

Thanks to GB for amazing work!!

Thanks Peach!!! Now I know we have our own wiki!
P.S. I'm so tired to deal with people in Wikipedia. Sigh!
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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2014, 11:54:20 PM »
And look what are the differences how changed the Race Summaries in every leg what is now, User Ryulong of Wikipedia is a contributor in every TAR page and he partially rewrote and edited the new race summary, here's the example from TAR25:

Before:
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After:
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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2014, 12:59:32 AM »
What an arrogant guy. Don't know where he gets the idea of going around changing things that weren't broken.
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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2014, 01:27:20 AM »
I just saw this. The old wiki pages were perfect and organized, but one giant paragraph for each leg? Although it is in chronological order, it isn't really that great to read.

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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2014, 04:32:43 AM »
So I just found out this page where he and his editors discuss things: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Amazing_Race_25 blahblah

and the last post is the answer of this new layout thing. (under the title New TAR Clue Format and Summaries) ???
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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2014, 06:34:30 AM »
:res: This was very jarring and awful, I was surprised when I tried to read an old TAR Season wiki page. It has to be fixed! :(

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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2014, 07:30:57 AM »
There's also a lot of odd stuff, like putting "Pit Stop: Leg 1" right next to the pit stop icon :groan: and unnecessary descriptions of tasks in the location list :gaah: I'll see what I can do.
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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2014, 07:38:22 AM »
I'm so confused when I read the TAR article now. What I would prefer is brief explanation of tasks.
We don't need the word "Detour", "Roadblock", "Pit Stop", etc. beside the icon, because there's a legend on the top of the race summary. For the Roadblock question or the Detour options, he just can use the hover feature on Wikipedia. :iok
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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2014, 07:52:44 AM »
I've made severall edits in the past on the TAR wiki pages and Ryulong just kept on reverting them as if he was the only one allowed to edit them and change their format. He thinks he's always right, is angry all the time, and he doesn't seem to follow wikipedia's civility policy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility). I gave up a couple of months ago, and yeah now, when I need TAR infos, I head to rff's and GB's amazing wiki.
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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2014, 01:59:20 PM »
Don't tell Ryulong this, but I'm Shadow2. If you want to see us really butt heads, look at the talk page for The Amazing Race 24. He's a completely arrogant son of a mother who always, always thinks he is right. That's why I've given up on the Wikipedia pages entirely. Come to our wiki instead. The TAR section is like 90% complete.

But if you all want to try to make a difference then the best thing to do is to make an account and go post on the Talk page. The reason my opinions always fall flat is because I'm usually the ONLY person with the courage to speak up against him. If there's 7 people wanting the old format and only him wanting the new one, then he actually has to abide by the rules of Wikipedia and go with the majority.

IMPORTANT THOUGH: DO NOT MENTION THAT YOU ARE FROM THIS SITE. As soon as they hear you're from a "fancruft" site, as they call them, they will immediately disregard all of your opinions.

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In terms of OUR wiki, I think someone mentioned carrying over the old method to the rff wiki. However, since we have more freedom on the rff wiki I've split the TAR seasons into multiple pages, so I don't think there's actually a place for the old method there.

On country pages (http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=Argentina) the race itineraries are listed out using the old OLD method (before they started putting Roadblock symbols on the far left like idiots), and each has a link above to a leg page.

The leg pages (http://realityfanwiki.com/index.php?title=The_Amazing_Race_19_Leg_1) have each task nicely separated and easy to read.
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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2014, 06:39:34 PM »
Hi guys :waves:

I made an alternative leg entry format for the TAR pages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Albertdaniel222

I want to know what you guys think before I present this to the guy who is unusually controlling everything.nah, I couldn't wait :)
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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2014, 07:52:22 PM »
See how he insulted Gsfelipe94 simply because this person had a differing opinion, calling him "petty"?
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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2014, 12:13:46 AM »
Just wanted to pop in to applaud everyone for their hard work!

I like simplicity and clean, neat, options, so I really like Karpov's design!

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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2014, 12:19:35 AM »
Ryulong is most snobbish guy I ever seen.  :funny:

I don't have problems reading the old style, but the new style looks a bit awful. But I like Karpov's design.
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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2014, 12:26:05 AM »
By the way, if anyone wants to help out with the rff wiki but doesn't know what they can do, Hit the Random Page button and look at the page. If anything looks wrong to you, fix it. I'm most certain there's a few typos in there somewhere.
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Re: Please come and SAVE the TAR page on Wikipedia.
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2014, 10:06:01 PM »
Really thanks for everyone who confront him with your opinion! And I think we should work on the RF Wiki as well if you want to contribute.
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