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Title: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: georgiapeach on December 09, 2020, 12:29:13 AM

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Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: georgiapeach on December 09, 2020, 12:33:01 AM

 :conf: AMAZING UPDATES CONTINUE THANKS TO THE AMAZING RACHEL!  :conf:

                      Join the fun here after Rachel checks us in! Comments (nice ones lol) welcome!
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 06:31:12 PM
Welcome to the penultimate leg! Stay tuned for tonight's shake-up!
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The second-to-last episode of the season starts in 29 minutes!
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: georgiapeach on December 09, 2020, 06:37:22 PM
Thanks Rachel!!

Its always fun to watch and see how our spoilers hold up!
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: NumfarPTB on December 09, 2020, 06:45:19 PM
Please be aware that Canada is airing it an hour ahead, if you've seen the Canadian please don't spoil the episode for those watching the US feed.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 06:55:00 PM
5 more minutes until it's our time!
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:02:17 PM
And we are on the air! :cheer:

Previously on TAR, five teams flew from Hyderabad, India to Siem Reap, Cambodia! With only the Mine Five Alliance left, some teams were in the dark about the Core three's scheme. When that plan fell apart, a new target was found, setting up a tense conversation at the tile Roadblock. In the end, volleyballers won the leg while Eswar & Aparna couldn't overcome the hardship. Who'll be in the final three and who'll be eliminated next?

Riley & Maddison are shown checking out the Travelocity app about their Norwegian prize from the previous leg. They are the first to depart at 2:00 PM. FLY TO MANILA, THE PHILIPPINES!

Upon arrival, teams must find Phil for some urgent news at Lapu Lapu Circle in downtown!
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:03:47 PM
Riley finds it strange that they have to get into a marked jeep that would take them to the circle. Will & James depart 2nd and talk about their dream coming true and how they love their alliance, but are going to focus on themselves more. Hung & Chee depart 3rd a 3:38 PM and talk about inspiring their daughters. Hung mentions her best friend if half-Filipino and hopes this could work to her advantage. De & Gary depart in last and talk about business getting into the final three.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:04:51 PM
James continues to talk about the alliance and how they wish there is a dance task to heighten their chances against Panthers. DeAngelo & Gary arrive and the three teams split off to face the ticket counters. Yeesh.

All teams on the same flight to Manila.

Commercial break.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:08:48 PM
We return to teams arriving at Lapu Lapu Circle with teams finding it peculiar that they are meeting Phil at the start of the leg. Phil reveals they will embark on a CITY SPRINT, which means the start and the Pit Stop are the exact same! All active Route Infos.

Their clues are in the marked jeepneys.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:10:04 PM
And with an anticlimactic re-Starting Line moment, the teams are off! Solve this riddle: Red means stop. Green means go. Yadayadayada -.... Teams must find a traffic director in the middle of an intersection for their next clue.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:12:15 PM
Will & James are getting bypassed by all three teams and DeAngelo & Gary are arguing like an old married couple.  :funny:

Volleyballers find the traffic guy first. Tell your driver to go to Mall of Asia. DeAngelo & Gary get their clue 2nd. Meanwhile, Hung & Chee's jeepney surpassed the intersection and have to circle around to go back. Will & James also miss their target. "Turn around!" - Will :funny:


Commercial break.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:16:01 PM
We return to Will & James' jeepney misadventures. They somehow bypass Hung & Chee on their way back into the intersection and get their clue 3rd. Hung & Chee approach the traffic guard and grab the clue in 4th.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:18:02 PM
Volleyballers arrive at the Mall of Asia clue box. Teams must run in high-heel pumps along the Baywalk promenade and run a marked course to the finishing point to receive your next clue. DeAngelo & Gary also arrive at the high-heels racecourse. Sarah from TAR Australia 2 would LOVE this task. :funny: All four guys are having fun in some fashionable Stilettos.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:20:28 PM
DeAngelo & Gary are definitely not trekking well in these "cleats". Riley & Madisson finish and must travel to Binondo Arch of Goodwill, the Chinatown of Manila, and find a colored dancing dragon with a clue in their mouth. Will & James and Hung & Chee arrive at the same time and are talking about putting on the heels for the first time. Both are running and Will & James caught up to the parents.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:22:19 PM
Riley & Madisson are stuck in traffic while DeAngelo & Gary arrive at Binombo first. They think the stone dragon is one of them they have to find their clue from. Gary sticks his hand in the first blue lion he says, nothing. Second dragon, no. Will & James arrive at the Arch of Goodwill in 2nd.

DeAngelo & Gary get their clue. Travel to the Central Post Office for your next clue.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:24:14 PM
Will & James find lions, and get it on their 3rd one. Riley & Madisson arrive at the Chinatown. Meanwhile, Hung & Chee are lost at the wrong Chinatown arch.

Volleyballers get their clue from the red lion while Hung & Chee are frantically searching for the arch.

Commercial break.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Bookworm on December 09, 2020, 07:25:28 PM
This Leg is super underwhelming thus far. There haven't been any tasks besides the heel run; the "riddles" were just short luck tasks that didn't allow any room for inter-team competition.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: elthemagnifico on December 09, 2020, 07:28:00 PM
I wish the heel run was a timed task to add the difficulty of the task. Most of the tasks so far didn't add some difficulty to potentially shake up the placements.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:29:51 PM
We return to Hung & Chee in panic mode. "I don't see any lion head over there." Hung reenacts a lion to the parking guard. :funny:

DeAngelo & Gary arrive at the post office. Teams must prepare horse feed in a bucket and serve it to a horse hitched to a kalesa. After they serve their special recipe, they will receive their next clue.

Will & James also get to the task. "I can't wait to not eat this."
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Malcooolm on December 09, 2020, 07:33:00 PM
I wish the heel run was a timed task to add the difficulty of the task. Most of the tasks so far didn't add some difficulty to potentially shake up the placements.
That and the tight rope in Bogota should’ve been timed to make it tougher. For some reason it seems like the producers want to shorten the legs...
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:33:55 PM
DeAngelo & Gary are missing the marked vendor at the horse feed task. Hung & Chee find the lions and try to tame the blue one to no avail. They find theirs on a red one.

Boyfriends collect their second ingredient before De & Gary. Will & James get their third ingredient. They mix everything except the grass and proceed to feed their horse. Riley & Madisson also arrive.

Travel to Mehan Garden! Listen to a band play a medley of songs that they've heard during the race. Memory task involving legs 5, 2, 4, and 1! Find four instrument cases and line them up in the order they heard the songs on the course, not the band arrangement, to receive their next clue.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: georgiapeach on December 09, 2020, 07:34:45 PM
oh WOW...I am so tone deaf...this one would KILL me!
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:35:45 PM
All three all-male teams arrive at Mehan Garden and are getting their cases. Will & James explain the task again essentially. The hardest part is that none of the flags are labeled so its even harder to get the order right.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:38:35 PM
Hung & Chee get to the feeding task and are quickly making progress on the meal for their horse. DeAngelo & Gary arguing as per usual while Will & James continue to struggle. Only Colombia is correct for Riley & Madisson and Will & James. Everything else is wrong or even out of order. De & Gary have had the most right so far.

Hung & Chee arrive at the garden. They start tearing through the rest of the truck for the cases. No one is helping each other, finally! Hallelujah!
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:39:53 PM
All teams essentially guessing while Hung & Chee are paying attention to the rest of the melodies. A huge disappointment for everyone with multiple guesses and NOT reading the clue. Madisson kicks a suitcase to the side /cue dramatic slowdown effect/

Commercial break.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: elthemagnifico on December 09, 2020, 07:41:43 PM
Now I love this mini memory challenge. This is gonna be great to watch  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Kiwi Jay on December 09, 2020, 07:43:12 PM
Have to disagree because I've really enjoyed seeing the city this leg. So many locations. We wouldn't have that if we had harder tasks. The harder the task, the less of Manila we'd see. So actually, I am finding it lovely and refreshing. I obviously enjoy a route marker, detour and roadblock. But this is fun. Don't mind it staying!
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: elthemagnifico on December 09, 2020, 07:43:49 PM
Gary & DeAngelo basically doing Henry. Only one incorrect answer and they decided to "shake things up"  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: alecbaldwin on December 09, 2020, 07:44:15 PM
This task gives me S22 Indonesia flashbacks.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: georgiapeach on December 09, 2020, 07:44:42 PM
HUGE KUDOS to our RFF on the ground LIVE crew! They did AMAZING!
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:47:50 PM
We come back to this game of mega musical chairs, almost. "This is stupid" - Will

Hung & Chee are verifying their countries' songs while James is stumped and wants to talk to Hung & Chee. They give in and help each other because they think it's too hard. They try various combinations between the other two legs because it's that hard. :lol:

DeAngelo & Gary see everyone else helping and step it on high gear. DeAngelo & Gary is ONE flag position away from being correct. Ohmygosh.

Everybody else has the wrong permutation. "We tried every possible combination." :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:49:03 PM
Will READS HIS CLUE! :conf:  :groan: Circus music begins playing fittingly.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:51:34 PM
Riley & Madisson set up their combination and are correct. Make your way back to Lapu Lapu Circle for the Pit Stop. Last team to check in WILL be eliminated.

Volleyballers head off while DeAngelo & Gary feel very defeated. Will & James and Hung & Chee move on in 2nd and 3rd with each other's help. DeAngelo & Gary take a 2-hour penalty for not finishing an active RI.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:52:20 PM
Riley & Madisson are TEAM NUMBER ONE and move on to the final three. Will & James are TEAM NUMBER TWO.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Jro on December 09, 2020, 07:54:03 PM
God, this brings back bad memories of TAR 23. So cringe.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:54:16 PM
"We have laid the foundation of love from the start till now." - James

Hung & Chee are TEAM NUMBER THREE! "It's so mind-blowingly unreal!" They entrusted Will & James and Riley & Madisson.

Phil reveals they are traveling to
Show content
NEW ORLEANS, LOUISIANA!
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: cbacbacba1 on December 09, 2020, 07:54:41 PM
It is like Amy & Nicole again  :dick
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:56:13 PM
Phil says one team is missing. "Thank God." - James

DeAngelo & Gary wrap up their penalty and are the last team to arrive. "The race sucked. I probably will never come on the show again." DeAngelo. He says that before jocosely explaining their appreciation for the opportunity they got and are proud they are bringing home new memories.

Final three montage.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:56:52 PM
Stay tuned for scenes from our next episode!
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Bookworm on December 09, 2020, 07:58:03 PM
The heel turn of DeAngelo justifying the U-Turn by saying it's just a game to claiming the Race sucked when everyone ganged up on them... that pretty much sums the season up. Hoping for a very competitive finale!
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 07:59:57 PM
Next week on the season finale of TAR32!

Show content
Alliances are done as teams race through the Big Easy (not the Globetrotter) to win the $1 million prize and THE AMAZING RACE.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: georgiapeach on December 09, 2020, 08:01:02 PM
GREAT  JOB RACHEL!!

:tu SO MUCH!
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Mr.Nuke on December 09, 2020, 08:03:11 PM
Even though the NFL players still got eliminated the fact the other 3 team's brute force attempt initially failed felt like karmic justice.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: nrh2110 on December 09, 2020, 08:03:29 PM
Just gonna say it...

The route for this season was great! The teams...they kinda ruined it. I liked Gary and Deangelo up until DeAngelo’s comments at the mat and the hypocrisy of the other three throughout the race (and as others have said, this brings back flashbacks of TAR 23) plus everyone else was kind of bland. Too bad, I was really hoping that finally have a non-gimmick season and just normal teams would make a great season but the cast just really ruined the season for me imo.

Tbh Riley & Maddison are the only ones who deserve to be in the Final 3, the other two were just leeches so I guess I’ll root for them in the Final 3 but man was this a disappointing season cast-wise. Lol really bringing back memories of 23 with Leo and Jamal really being one of the only likable teams that season and then three teams I really didn’t like who got there due to an alliance
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 08:04:36 PM
DeAngelo & Gary missing the correct combination by just one flag without any help was absolutely heartbreaking. Reminded me very much of Henry & Evan during the USS Alameda final memory task two seasons ago.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: elthemagnifico on December 09, 2020, 08:04:59 PM
I can get why ppl so upset about the helping in the final challenge on the penultimate leg, especially three teams working together but it has been done before, i mean last season T/K helped the zen team to locate the boot on s31 penultimate leg.

On the other side, i do think it is a pretty good penultimate leg, the we actually see many sides of Manila that we haven't seen before and the mini memory challenge is so nail bitting and great
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Mr.Nuke on December 09, 2020, 08:07:06 PM
DeAngelo & Gary missing the correct combination by just one flag without any help was absolutely heartbreaking. Reminded me very much of Henry & Evan during the USS Alameda final memory task two seasons ago.
And had either or both of the two other teams taken them up on the offer they would've been out of there before Hung & Chee got there because it was pretty clear the NFLers were the only one that actually read the clue.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Jro on December 09, 2020, 08:08:04 PM
It's just frustrating because it's not fun to watch.

I can get why ppl so upset about the helping in the final challenge on the penultimate leg, especially three teams working together but it has been done before, i mean last season T/K helped the zen team to locate the boot on s31 penultimate leg.

On the other side, i do think it is a pretty good penultimate leg, the we actually see many sides of Manila that we haven't seen before and the mini memory challenge is so nail bitting and great
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: ZBC Company on December 09, 2020, 08:08:48 PM
I think these the best seasons of the amazing race I am going to miss.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: alecbaldwin on December 09, 2020, 08:12:17 PM
Tbh Riley & Maddison are the only ones who deserve to be in the Final 3, the other two were just leeches so I guess I’ll root for them in the Final 3 but man was this a disappointing season cast-wise. Lol really bringing back memories of 23 with Leo and Jamal really being one of the only likable teams that season and then three teams I really didn’t like who got there due to an alliance
I respectfully disagree. Will & James and Hung & Chee were the ones who (re)read the clue and figured out the memory challenge + Hung solved the German RB. Tbh, Riley & Maddison got lucky this leg.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Bookworm on December 09, 2020, 08:18:20 PM
Tbh Riley & Maddison are the only ones who deserve to be in the Final 3, the other two were just leeches so I guess I’ll root for them in the Final 3 but man was this a disappointing season cast-wise. Lol really bringing back memories of 23 with Leo and Jamal really being one of the only likable teams that season and then three teams I really didn’t like who got there due to an alliance
Nah, Hung & Chee all the way- as others have said, they've been the biggest intellectual force of the alliance.

Also, I was rooting for Tim & Marie in TAR23 :funny: Is that just me?
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: nrh2110 on December 09, 2020, 08:20:51 PM
Tbh Riley & Maddison are the only ones who deserve to be in the Final 3, the other two were just leeches so I guess I’ll root for them in the Final 3 but man was this a disappointing season cast-wise. Lol really bringing back memories of 23 with Leo and Jamal really being one of the only likable teams that season and then three teams I really didn’t like who got there due to an alliance
I respectfully disagree. Will & James and Hung & Chee were the ones who (re)read the clue and figured out the memory challenge + Hung solved the German RB. Tbh, Riley & Maddison got lucky this leg.

I get your point, but I disagree. R&M aren’t stupid, they would’ve figured it out soon after anyway, but they were the ones who came up with doing permutations, they were the ones who had the answer and pretty much the entire season they were able to figure out things on their own, whereas W&J contributed nothing except the paper with the information (I don’t remember which leg) and H&C contributed a few times but especially this leg, they may not have gotten the final task if it wasn’t for the alliance.

Tbh at this point as long as W&J don’t win I’ll be okay
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Mr.Nuke on December 09, 2020, 08:22:09 PM
Tbh Riley & Maddison are the only ones who deserve to be in the Final 3, the other two were just leeches
I mean, I'm not convinced Riley and Maddison make it through this leg if they didn't have the help of the other 2 teams on the memory challenge. They were smart to want to brute force it, but with the help of two other teams that still initially failed and their two helping teams actually figured out what was needed from the clue.
I respectfully disagree. Will & James and Hung & Chee were the ones who (re)read the clue and figured out the memory challenge + Hung solved the German RB. Tbh, Riley & Maddison got lucky this leg.
And here I'm not convinced Hung gets the Sauerkraut (at the very least as quickly as she did) without DeAngelo telling her what she needs to look for.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: cbacbacba1 on December 09, 2020, 08:22:43 PM
Tbh Riley & Maddison are the only ones who deserve to be in the Final 3, the other two were just leeches so I guess I’ll root for them in the Final 3 but man was this a disappointing season cast-wise. Lol really bringing back memories of 23 with Leo and Jamal really being one of the only likable teams that season and then three teams I really didn’t like who got there due to an alliance
Nah, Hung & Chee all the way- as others have said, they've been the biggest intellectual force of the alliance.

Also, I was rooting for Tim & Marie in TAR23 :funny: Is that just me?
Nicole & Amy ignoring Marie's question during that roadblock, just to have Marie passing all of them is awesome. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: elthemagnifico on December 09, 2020, 08:24:22 PM
I can't wait to see how this forum and Reddit would go if W/J win /s  :lol: :lol:

On the other hand we have pretty much good racers going into final three like last season, and last season was so intense. I hope this final is as intense as the last season, since most of them win pretty much good amount of legs so they will be thriving the a game
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: alecbaldwin on December 09, 2020, 08:25:10 PM
Tbh Riley & Maddison are the only ones who deserve to be in the Final 3, the other two were just leeches so I guess I’ll root for them in the Final 3 but man was this a disappointing season cast-wise. Lol really bringing back memories of 23 with Leo and Jamal really being one of the only likable teams that season and then three teams I really didn’t like who got there due to an alliance
Nah, Hung & Chee all the way- as others have said, they've been the biggest intellectual force of the alliance.

Also, I was rooting for Tim & Marie in TAR23 :funny: Is that just me?
Obviously not, I like Tim & Marie because I found their barking and understanding each others at the same time to be funny and endearing. Also they wore their emotions on their sleaves and didn't try to gaslight the viewers, kind of like Charla & Mirna.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: nrh2110 on December 09, 2020, 08:28:38 PM
Tbh Riley & Maddison are the only ones who deserve to be in the Final 3, the other two were just leeches so I guess I’ll root for them in the Final 3 but man was this a disappointing season cast-wise. Lol really bringing back memories of 23 with Leo and Jamal really being one of the only likable teams that season and then three teams I really didn’t like who got there due to an alliance
Nah, Hung & Chee all the way- as others have said, they've been the biggest intellectual force of the alliance.

Also, I was rooting for Tim & Marie in TAR23 :funny: Is that just me?
Obviously not, I like Tim & Marie because I found their barking and understanding each others at the same time to be funny and endearing. Also they wore their emotions on their sleaves and didn't try to gaslight the viewers, kind of like Charla & Mirna.

I was rooting for Tim & Marie bc they were better than the other two but wasn’t particularly fond of them throughout the season, especially with Marie rubbing the second express pass in the other teams’ faces
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: alecbaldwin on December 09, 2020, 08:33:00 PM
Tbh Riley & Maddison are the only ones who deserve to be in the Final 3, the other two were just leeches
I mean, I'm not convinced Riley and Maddison make it through this leg if they didn't have the help of the other 2 teams on the memory challenge. They were smart to want to brute force it, but with the help of two other teams that still initially failed and their two helping teams actually figured out what was needed from the clue.
I respectfully disagree. Will & James and Hung & Chee were the ones who (re)read the clue and figured out the memory challenge + Hung solved the German RB. Tbh, Riley & Maddison got lucky this leg.
And here I'm not convinced Hung gets the Sauerkraut (at the very least as quickly as she did) without DeAngelo telling her what she needs to look for.
I remember she's on her way for her first try when she met up with DeAngelo so it's not like she couldn't figure that out.

I get what you're trying to say but it's not just one incident. If you checked, I did say I hoped DeAngelo & Gary were just being unaware at the Berlin leg. I didn't jump to the conclusion that quick.

I would like to be on their side in this but I've been in similar situation and it would be like I'm being a hypocrite myself. If you know me, I can't take that right now so please forgive me for being selfish here. I appreciate you bringing nuance to this subject.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: cbacbacba1 on December 09, 2020, 08:34:23 PM
I can't wait to see how this forum and Reddit would go as W/J winning /s  :lol: :lol:

On the other hand we have pretty much good racers going into final three like last season, and last season was so intense. I hope this final is as intense as the last season, since most of them win pretty much good amount of legs so they will be thriving the a game
Only season 1, 5, 7, 17, 20, 23, 26 and this season (32) have the 3 highest average placing teams of the season as Final 3. And I think TAR 17,20 and 26 all have pretty intense Final Leg.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Xoruz on December 09, 2020, 08:38:01 PM
The sheer volume of tasks this leg was pretty interesting, and the memory task was a good one.
For anyone keeping track, HaMerotz LaMillion 7 & 8 filmed in Manila around the time this leg was filmed and also filmed at Rizal Park, SM by the Bay, and Liwasang Bonifacio.
As much as I'm annoyed by answer sharing, I did enjoy seeing that crash and burn by the teams trying every combination. Also, in fairness to two teams, they did figure out the trick by themselves.
I've enjoyed DeAngelo & Gary but that ending rubbed me the wrong way.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Mr.Nuke on December 09, 2020, 08:41:10 PM
Tbh Riley & Maddison are the only ones who deserve to be in the Final 3, the other two were just leeches
I mean, I'm not convinced Riley and Maddison make it through this leg if they didn't have the help of the other 2 teams on the memory challenge. They were smart to want to brute force it, but with the help of two other teams that still initially failed and their two helping teams actually figured out what was needed from the clue.
I respectfully disagree. Will & James and Hung & Chee were the ones who (re)read the clue and figured out the memory challenge + Hung solved the German RB. Tbh, Riley & Maddison got lucky this leg.
And here I'm not convinced Hung gets the Sauerkraut (at the very least as quickly as she did) without DeAngelo telling her what she needs to look for.
I remember she's on her way for her first try when she met up with DeAngelo so it's not like she couldn't figure that out.
She literally walked down the side of the building without looking at anything and was freaking out. I think she could've figured it out fairly quickly on her own, but I doubt she would've on the first try without the tip, and could easily see her getting frustrated on subsequent tries. Like I said in my response to the other poster, I'm agreeing with your premise in general. The other teams indeed were not leeches and basically all 3 of the final teams benefited from the alliance (and in Berlin yes Chee gave directly or indirectly multiple teams the answer). The volleyball players would've been in massive trouble this leg without the two other teams and they certainly benefited on various other legs including Berlin from the alliance.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: alecbaldwin on December 09, 2020, 09:05:33 PM
Tbh Riley & Maddison are the only ones who deserve to be in the Final 3, the other two were just leeches so I guess I’ll root for them in the Final 3 but man was this a disappointing season cast-wise. Lol really bringing back memories of 23 with Leo and Jamal really being one of the only likable teams that season and then three teams I really didn’t like who got there due to an alliance
Nah, Hung & Chee all the way- as others have said, they've been the biggest intellectual force of the alliance.

Also, I was rooting for Tim & Marie in TAR23 :funny: Is that just me?
Obviously not, I like Tim & Marie because I found their barking and understanding each others at the same time to be funny and endearing. Also they wore their emotions on their sleaves and didn't try to gaslight the viewers, kind of like Charla & Mirna.

I was rooting for Tim & Marie bc they were better than the other two but wasn’t particularly fond of them throughout the season, especially with Marie rubbing the second express pass in the other teams’ faces
Yeah, there're a lot of milking going on. The show gave them 2 EPs and the woman wanted to get the most out of them.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Pi on December 09, 2020, 09:10:14 PM
This season's route is outstanding and the teams are great as individual teams, but the overarching alliance formation impedes individual excellence and promotes race collectivism. While teams have the right to gang up on each other, I could understand Gary/DeAngelo being miffed about the way the final task shook out. Hung/Chee surviving though <3

Proposed rule change for next season: teams lose $100,000 off the potential prize money at the end every time they give an answer to another team. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: mswood on December 09, 2020, 10:01:14 PM
oh WOW...I am so tone deaf...this one would KILL me!
Well I learned something new.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: mswood on December 09, 2020, 10:08:14 PM
GREAT  JOB RACHEL!!

:tu SO MUCH!
Seriously Rachel has done a great job on these all seasons.  Thank You very much!
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: mswood on December 09, 2020, 10:24:09 PM
This is one of the seasons where most teams didn't bother me at all, of course the other end is that few teams really excited me.  I will say I was very disappointed by DeAngelo's comments on the Mat.  I also didn't care for the being upset about the racers working together, when you've benefited from an alliance knowing others didn't it really doesn't look good complaining when it happens to you.  But like a huge host of racers, you can get upset and worked up and say something on the fly that makes you look bad.  But even after the 2 hour penalty, I didn't like the attitude on the Mat.  I honestly can't remember any racer saying they hated the race as on overall experience (when on the mat).

Now in (God what season was it) the season they did an elimination at the starting point, that's the only time I would be pissed off by what happened.  I really thought that was the meanest thing production ever planned.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: alecbaldwin on December 09, 2020, 10:59:41 PM
This is one of the seasons where most teams didn't bother me at all, of course the other end is that few teams really excited me. I will say I was very disappointed by DeAngelo's comments on the Mat. I also didn't care for the being upset about the racers working together, when you've benefited from an alliance knowing others didn't it really doesn't look good complaining when it happens to you. But like a huge host of racers, you can get upset and worked up and say something on the fly that makes you look bad. But even after the 2 hour penalty, I didn't like the attitude on the Mat. I honestly can't remember any racer saying they hated the race as on overall experience (when on the mat).

Now in (God what season was it) the season they did an elimination at the starting point, that's the only time I would be pissed off by what happened. I really thought that was the meanest thing production ever planned.
Well said.

I understand the desire to win but there're 10 (or 11, or 9) teams that are gonna lose each season, they're not alone on that boat and they made it further than 7 other teams.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: RachelLeVega on December 09, 2020, 11:13:20 PM
This is one of the seasons where most teams didn't bother me at all, of course the other end is that few teams really excited me.  I will say I was very disappointed by DeAngelo's comments on the Mat.  I also didn't care for the being upset about the racers working together, when you've benefited from an alliance knowing others didn't it really doesn't look good complaining when it happens to you.  But like a huge host of racers, you can get upset and worked up and say something on the fly that makes you look bad.  But even after the 2 hour penalty, I didn't like the attitude on the Mat.  I honestly can't remember any racer saying they hated the race as on overall experience (when on the mat).

Now in (God what season was it) the season they did an elimination at the starting point, that's the only time I would be pissed off by what happened.  I really thought that was the meanest thing production ever planned.
I remember Alison walked off the mat in season 5 leaving her partner Donny behind with Phil and felt the race was an awful experience for her. Though I've never seen a team that made it further than a couple legs even joke about that.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: nrh2110 on December 09, 2020, 11:27:18 PM
I also recommend everyone go check out Gary’s Twitter. Apparently there was a lot more going on behind the scenes and between legs that weren’t shown on air, and while he disagrees with how DeAngelo phrased it, he understands. He doesn’t go into much depth about it (possibly due to NDAs) but one thing he mentions is how they actually had a two-team alliance with the beards from Leg 1 and they felt betrayed by them turning against them. I’m sure there’s more to it, but it’s made me a bit more sympathetic to the situation.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: NELs on December 09, 2020, 11:40:34 PM
Well I have to say, this alliance really ruined some great tasks this season.

I loved the idea of having a leg like, but many of the tasks were quick and didn't take too long.

The first task was just getting a clue from a traffic enforcer, while creative of them having to get the clue while in their jeepney, was very quick.

The high-heel run task was not that interesting to watch, teams had no problem with this task.

Looking for a clue in a lion's mouth was not that fun to watch.

The final task this leg was my favorite for it's creativity, but it was once again ruined by the alliance. THIS IS THE PENULTIMATE LEG, STOP HELPING EACHOTHER.

Rating: 2/5
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Declive on December 10, 2020, 12:17:59 AM
Sadly this season has the ultimate prize for the worst one ever, to me.
I won't even watch the Final leg, to be honest.

This is sad, because a whole season got ruined by one alliance.

Yes, the 3 best teams are on the final. But i feel like none of them would get there without each other.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: BourkieBoy on December 10, 2020, 12:21:49 AM
This episode was probably the best second half episode of the season. But, I agree with many other fellow RFFs here that this alliance has ruined so many quality tasks designed this season.

I enjoyed the new twist of a "City Sprint" around Manila. This was because I felt as though the Race was hectic, with teams needing to hurry to each place and the pressure of the penultimate leg also heightened the tension tenfold. I enjoyed watching the high-heel sprint (Hunners would of crushed this task!), but I found the lion task, searching for a traffic operator? and the horse feeding task to be a little underwhelming, ngl

Also, I didn't really understand the memory challenge? I found it quite strange and I was quite annoyed when DeAngelo was the only person working without help and he was one short! Why on earth are you helping other teams on Leg 10? Seriously.  :groan:

Finally, I was quite pissed off with DeAngelo's comments at the Mat that "The race sucked. I probably will never come on the show again." I do understand that it was supposed to be "tongue-in-cheek", but seriously, feck off. Many, many, many people would love to be in your position and you should be grateful that you manage to go on the adventure of a lifetime for 10 legs  :groan:

Peach, I know that their has been rumors circulating around whether this was a replacement leg. Would you be able to confirm/deny these rumors? Cheers! :)
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Declive on December 10, 2020, 12:24:05 AM
But to complement my comment, i also think it was sad to see DeAngelo talking like that on the mat. Not pretty at all.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: chriswong886 on December 10, 2020, 02:33:08 AM
To be frank really disappointed on the comments made on the mat  B:)

Having watch the previous 10 seasons and more, every team participated in the race or been eliminated had at least appreciate for having the chance and be chosen to be part of the cast, even if they have been eliminated from the very first leg.

D'Angelo has been part of the Mine Five alliance from the beginning and even use the U-Turn last leg on Brothers and Sisters for their won good.

He is being such a hypocrite when he complained how the ex-alliance members "cheat" while benefited from the Mine Five back in Berlin and Hyderabad

I am not rooting for G/D but definitely not hating them. I understand his frustration but the fact that many ppl have applied for the show for many times, but D'Angelo didn't even seem to cherish the chance for being in the show, it is just wonderful to see them go and he definitely do not deserve winning the million dollar prize.



Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: mswood on December 10, 2020, 04:06:02 AM
This is one of the seasons where most teams didn't bother me at all, of course the other end is that few teams really excited me.  I will say I was very disappointed by DeAngelo's comments on the Mat.  I also didn't care for the being upset about the racers working together, when you've benefited from an alliance knowing others didn't it really doesn't look good complaining when it happens to you.  But like a huge host of racers, you can get upset and worked up and say something on the fly that makes you look bad.  But even after the 2 hour penalty, I didn't like the attitude on the Mat.  I honestly can't remember any racer saying they hated the race as on overall experience (when on the mat).

Now in (God what season was it) the season they did an elimination at the starting point, that's the only time I would be pissed off by what happened.  I really thought that was the meanest thing production ever planned.
I remember Alison walked off the mat in season 5 leaving her partner Donny behind with Phil and felt the race was an awful experience for her. Though I've never seen a team that made it further than a couple legs even joke about that.
Yeah I always thought that was more about the conflict between them then the actual race, but I might be remembering wrong.  And there have been a host of times where a team has a terrible leg, and parts of the race frustrate them, or they are absent about how they did, or even the state of the relationship within the team, but usually the worse you hear is that it was a lot harder then they thought it would be, not that they hated the experience in and of itself....  And if it was said right after the other teams left, yeah give them a little break, you get upset you say things that aren't always how you feel.  But this was hours afterwards, time to cool down, time to reflect...and still.  Yikes.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: ovalorange on December 10, 2020, 04:24:56 AM
I can't even blame DeAngelo for feeling that way.

The last challenge was flawed in that the Paraguay and France music sounded so off base. I couldn't even tell that's what it was referencing when I heard the actual music and then the replicated version right after it. Clearly none of the racers had any idea either.

And then add on top of that the audacity of the other three teams to just openly "help" (read: share the solution) each other in front of Gary and DeAngelo.... complete horseshiet. I'd be pissed as hell too if I were NFL, the other teams essentially gamed the challenge to get them out of the race. Gary nailed it when he said they were toast the second one of the trio got it right.

As a fan I'm completely livid after watching that episode. It's so disheartening to see a team actually try to race and be absolutely ****ed in the process. They stood no chance once the trio started their permutations approach.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: alecbaldwin on December 10, 2020, 06:11:33 AM
I also recommend everyone go check out Gary’s Twitter. Apparently there was a lot more going on behind the scenes and between legs that weren’t shown on air, and while he disagrees with how DeAngelo phrased it, he understands. He doesn’t go into much depth about it (possibly due to NDAs) but one thing he mentions is how they actually had a two-team alliance with the beards from Leg 1 and they felt betrayed by them turning against them. I’m sure there’s more to it, but it’s made me a bit more sympathetic to the situation.
I want you to know that whatever I say here, I'm just bitching about the characters we see on TV. I won't go out my way or recommend anyone to try to ruin the real people lives or send death threats to them.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: georgiapeach on December 10, 2020, 06:33:39 AM
Just from watching, the music task seemed impossible.

NO teams were able to do it based om memory.

Was the task itself flawed?? Probably. Or was the failure to read the clue correctly part of it?

I would have much preferred a classic memry task. Perhaps we will see that in the Dome next week. I hope so!

Will be an interesting discussion in the overall dissection of this season after the Finale.

Was the alliance brilliant?  Or was it a terrible thing for the race itself? I did find it AMAZING that Phil took the time to instruct racers about not helping each other at the start. That alone tells me that production was NOT happy with this alliance. Just IMO.

Tell you what...give me a bit and I'll start an alliance discussion thread so we can have this in one place. :tup:
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: georgiapeach on December 10, 2020, 06:56:27 AM
Adding in Gary's Twitter comments:


(let me know if I missed more)
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: georgiapeach on December 10, 2020, 06:59:52 AM
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Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Maanca on December 10, 2020, 07:26:33 AM
One thing I do agree on about that task, is the band's recreation of the classical music from France sounded *nothing* like it. No wonder that's the flag they all got stuck on.

But I'm totally with DeAngelo - "the race sucked"
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: claude_24hrs on December 10, 2020, 07:28:23 AM
This is the best episode ever a leg in my home country. I was happy on TAR's return to the Philippines and it was bit great completely Detour-free and Roadblock-free tasks.

One episode to go and wait for the final leg next week.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: TARUSAFan on December 10, 2020, 07:58:19 AM
Philippines Legs always provide drama. I love it.
But it didn't give enough of drama as "My Ox is Broken" or Amy's pedicab Roadblock scare.

City Sprint is a new twist. No Roablocks, No Detours. It really looks patterned well for cities like Manila.

Stiletto Racing, as Rachel mentioned, Sarah from TAR Australia 2 will love this.
Jeepney-involved transport.

I do find some tasks a bit pedestrian like the horse feeding task. It felt easy. Same with running around Binondo looking for a dragon.

The memory task was a killer for the teams. Whoever thought of it was brilliant.

Overall, they could have done better and visited a different part of Manila.
There are some amazing locations surrounding the city or the outskirts of Manila
Mostly the only stay within Manila-area + Cavite with the exception of El Nido in the US's 3 visits to the country.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: NMC on December 10, 2020, 08:07:01 AM
Don't want to repeat what the majority have said but I'm so disappointed/ frustrated / upset with how this season has panned out.

I loved NFL at the start, slightly went off them mid race, but really felt for them this leg. I totally get DeAngelos feelings on the mat. Sure it sounded petty, but if the same situation happened to me I'd probably have felt the same.

The Alliance just ruined the whole season for me. I watched this Season with a few people that were new to TAR and they all had the same opinion, that it sucked and that none of the final 3 deserve to be there. If it weren't for the help and game planning between them they would never have all made it to the final.

Felt sorry for Eswar & Aparna last week as well, although that was totally NFLs foolishness.

In hindsight, this season did give us Godess teams like Hayley & Kaylyn, and Michelle & Vic, and I loved Jerry & Frank, and NFL to an extent, but overall, it wont be a season I'll rewatch. Hell, I'll probably skip next weeks episode too.

Sad times for what could've been a fantastic season.  :'(  :groan:
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: TARUSAFan on December 10, 2020, 08:11:29 AM
DeAngelo's comments at the end surprised me while watching the episode. As a superfan, many people audition and dream to be on the Race. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity and for his defeatist attitude and disposition at the Pit Stop was definitely uncalled for.  That's one side of the story, as cliche as it sounds, there's always 2 sides of a story. Per Gary's revelations via Twitter, the frustration brought about by the alliance, blatantly helping & sharing answers in front of them. I can't blame DeAngelo, seeing that unfold in front of them was sickening to watch. It was like a slap in the face. An alliance and suddenly a sub-alliance emerging. It totally cost them the Race. I liked DeAngelo & Gary from the start, lost it when it went to Berlin but this Leg in Manila, I was rooting for them. It felt like high school where so called "cool kids" were hanging out and you're not welcome to be with them.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: mnicole on December 10, 2020, 04:13:24 PM
I agree that the cheating of some teams by helping each other "sucked".  Weren't the teams given instructions not to help each other?  Therefore, shouldn't the cheating teams have been given a time penalty?   Some teams helping each other was unfair.

I am proud of the NFLers;  they did a good job with the tasks.  Agree with the post that the NFLers situation with the memory challenge was like the previous Evan and Henry situation with their memory challenge.  Why was there a memory challenge on a non-final leg?  It would seem to be that a memory challenge would be more appropriate for the final leg. 

Also, agree with the post that the attitude toward the NFLers are like the attitude the other teams had towards previous players Leo and Jamal. 

This was the Final Four, the playing field should have been equal.  The result of the leg should have been on the merits, not by cheating. 

Similar to other posters, I am taking a pass on watching the finale; I am going to wait for Phil's Tough As Nails to start in February.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: cbacbacba1 on December 10, 2020, 07:43:42 PM
Just from watching, the music task seemed impossible.

NO teams were able to do it based om memory.

Was the task itself flawed?? Probably. Or was the failure to read the clue correctly part of it?

I would have much preferred a classic memry task. Perhaps we will see that in the Dome next week. I hope so!

Will be an interesting discussion in the overall dissection of this season after the Finale.

Was the alliance brilliant?  Or was it a terrible thing for the race itself? I did find it AMAZING that Phil took the time to instruct racers about not helping each other at the start. That alone tells me that production was NOT happy with this alliance. Just IMO.

Tell you what...give me a bit and I'll start an alliance discussion thread so we can have this in one place. :tup:
Phil is clearly not happy with the alliance thing. He has been mentioning that since the elimination of Kaylynn & Haley.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: redwings8831 on December 10, 2020, 07:55:20 PM
Just from watching, the music task seemed impossible.

NO teams were able to do it based om memory.

Was the task itself flawed?? Probably. Or was the failure to read the clue correctly part of it?

In the exit press, Gary said that they were in and out of the France art roadblock within like 5 minutes and the music wasn't even playing while they were there. So they never heard that song and would've had no way of ever figuring out that France was one of the flags.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: guiaoshi on December 10, 2020, 08:03:43 PM
Yep, the alliance kinda ruined alot legs/tasks (is the show task now learn from it and find ways to not make it as easy...Least lenear legs would have helped it, rules about teams taking penalty for it. But no Deangelo, shut up. From the top 4 teams, yours was one that had more chances to be eliminated before this leg (even last leg, without the top 3 alliance, with that last task that you messed up big time Deangelo, you would have gone already). Also, with was the first team to ask for help/suggest a alliance at the last task, couple hours ago? Gary and Deangelo, right at the beginning of the task. At least the other three waited/tried and for Hung and Chee and sorry for you guys, but Will and James figured it out their main issue and won their spot. At least, three very competent teams. Gary and Deangelo? Not as good. We saw other teams this season (and in past ones) knowing they would be eliminated, and still finishing the leg, even during the night after a way harder leg, to at least say they made it. Sorry, this is the definition of a real loser, going out like this. Sorry Deangelo, is just a game. Don´t be mad about it, right? You signed for this game and for this strategy.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: Alenaveda on December 10, 2020, 08:44:37 PM
:hiya :welcome: to the R.F.F., guiaoshi!
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: serendipity on December 10, 2020, 09:36:26 PM
Just from watching, the music task seemed impossible.

NO teams were able to do it based om memory.

Was the task itself flawed?? Probably. Or was the failure to read the clue correctly part of it?

I would have much preferred a classic memry task. Perhaps we will see that in the Dome next week. I hope so!

Will be an interesting discussion in the overall dissection of this season after the Finale.

Was the alliance brilliant?  Or was it a terrible thing for the race itself? I did find it AMAZING that Phil took the time to instruct racers about not helping each other at the start. That alone tells me that production was NOT happy with this alliance. Just IMO.

Tell you what...give me a bit and I'll start an alliance discussion thread so we can have this in one place. :tup:

I also see Phil’s “advice” to teams at the start and realise producers like us also don’t like the idea of this alliance, sadly Will/James as race fans still decide to do it this way.

Even though I don’t particularly like NFL, I feel for them and it looks really bad.  If I were them seeing other three teams helping each other, I would have just stood there and look at them so they don’t get a chance to talk, also can just sneak at what flags they took.  This last task set up is not very good, they should separate the teams and stop them communicating with each other, the alliance really ruined the whole season even though some tasks such as this music memory one are really great.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: nrh2110 on December 10, 2020, 10:47:58 PM
Yep, the alliance kinda ruined alot legs/tasks (is the show task now learn from it and find ways to not make it as easy...Least lenear legs would have helped it, rules about teams taking penalty for it. But no Deangelo, shut up. From the top 4 teams, yours was one that had more chances to be eliminated before this leg (even last leg, without the top 3 alliance, with that last task that you messed up big time Deangelo, you would have gone already). Also, with was the first team to ask for help/suggest a alliance at the last task, couple hours ago? Gary and Deangelo, right at the beginning of the task. At least the other three waited/tried and for Hung and Chee and sorry for you guys, but Will and James figured it out their main issue and won their spot. At least, three very competent teams. Gary and Deangelo? Not as good. We saw other teams this season (and in past ones) knowing they would be eliminated, and still finishing the leg, even during the night after a way harder leg, to at least say they made it. Sorry, this is the definition of a real loser, going out like this. Sorry Deangelo, is just a game. Don´t be mad about it, right? You signed for this game and for this strategy.

Welcome to RFF man, but I highly suggest you go see what Gary & DeAngelo have been saying about it so you can have a better understand of where they're coming from. He wasn't upset about losing, there was a lot more going on behind the scenes that we didn't know about.

Also about this:

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Also, with was the first team to ask for help/suggest a alliance at the last task, couple hours ago? Gary and Deangelo, right at the beginning of the task.

You're missing the point. The other three teams secretly formed a mini alliance despite agreeing during the Mine 5 that after 5 everyone was out for themselves, so to tell them "no we're going to work on our own" and then immediately backstab them and all work together to make sure they got out was a very effed up thing to do
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: georgiapeach on December 10, 2020, 11:27:41 PM
I think it was a CASTING Failure.

This is what you get when you cast someone who has never seen the race before. And thinks he is there"to see the world".
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I posted my take on this here: https://forum.realityfanforum.com/index.php/topic,34976.msg1290322.html#msg1290322

Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: theschnauzers on December 10, 2020, 11:34:39 PM
The final three alliance came together several lega prior to the Megaleg and it was shown that while they would honor the Mine Five alliance, there was tension with Gary and D’Angelo over what was perceived as a one sided aspect to their behavior to the rest of that Alliance. I seem to recall Hung and Chee being particularly unhappy about them. You might recall that in the second India roadblock with the place settings and the rulers. So, while I totally agree about the editing reflects what story production wants to tell, and our perception as viewers, clearly there were things other teams were perceiving in the moment about Gary and D’Angelo in those last few legs.
I’m sure there’s a lot there that is not yet visible until after the finale airs that should be told. It’s much like season one in that respect, and we’ll have to wait and see what comes out.
And I’m one that thinks the music memory challenge was flawed from its design and how teams understood it. It’s quite interesting that two teams, even after agreeing to work together to try and figure out the solution, went back and re-read the clue. Definitely a persistent problem this season. Won’t surprise me if this shows up again in the finale.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: georgiapeach on December 10, 2020, 11:54:58 PM
Yep, the alliance kinda ruined alot legs/tasks (is the show task now learn from it and find ways to not make it as easy...Least lenear legs would have helped it, rules about teams taking penalty for it. But no Deangelo, shut up. From the top 4 teams, yours was one that had more chances to be eliminated before this leg (even last leg, without the top 3 alliance, with that last task that you messed up big time Deangelo, you would have gone already). Also, with was the first team to ask for help/suggest a alliance at the last task, couple hours ago? Gary and Deangelo, right at the beginning of the task. At least the other three waited/tried and for Hung and Chee and sorry for you guys, but Will and James figured it out their main issue and won their spot. At least, three very competent teams. Gary and Deangelo? Not as good. We saw other teams this season (and in past ones) knowing they would be eliminated, and still finishing the leg, even during the night after a way harder leg, to at least say they made it. Sorry, this is the definition of a real loser, going out like this. Sorry Deangelo, is just a game. Don´t be mad about it, right? You signed for this game and for this strategy.

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Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: elthemagnifico on December 11, 2020, 02:48:57 AM
anyone wondering how long did the team (especially the three musketeers) need to finish the last music memory challenge? judging from the time the NFL teams arrived (around 5 pm) and they arrived at the pit stop approx. one hour after the alliance teams arrived (around late 3 pm to early 4 pm) my spec that they needed around 1,5 - 2 hours or more to complete the task
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: theschnauzers on December 11, 2020, 08:20:39 PM
anyone wondering how long did the team (especially the three musketeers) need to finish the last music memory challenge? judging from the time the NFL teams arrived (around 5 pm) and they arrived at the pit stop approx. one hour after the alliance teams arrived (around late 3 pm to early 4 pm) my spec that they needed around 1,5 - 2 hours or more to complete the task
I’m not sure your computation is correct. The two hour penalty wouldn’t have started until the other three teams had already left for the pit stop. It is possible production cut the penalty short after all the other teams had checked in and finished their mat interviews with Phil, but we won’t know that unless Phil, the four teams, Bertram or Elise tell us.  What is notable is Phil did not travel to the site of the music memory task to eliminate D’Angelo and Gary.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: redwings8831 on December 11, 2020, 08:42:49 PM
In the exit press, Gary said that all four teams were there for about 3.5 hours. He made it sound like that they didn't cut the penalty time and they just took a nap while waiting it out.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: redskevin88 on December 14, 2020, 04:55:54 AM
One thing I do agree on about that task, is the band's recreation of the classical music from France sounded *nothing* like it. No wonder that's the flag they all got stuck on.

But I'm totally with DeAngelo - "the race sucked"

That and teams when through that roadblock pretty fast, only the Indian siblings had any problems doing the roadblock.
Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: The Practical Nomad on December 15, 2020, 10:12:12 AM
My comments on this episode are here:
https://hasbrouck.org/blog/archives/002561.html

DeAngelo and Gary's podcast is here:
https://cinnamonandsugar.podbean.com/e/cinnamon-sugar-episode-the-exit-episode/

and a follow-up with Riley and Madison:
https://cinnamonandsugar.podbean.com/e/cinnamon-sugar-vs-the-beard-bros-episode/



They promise to have all of the final three teams with them on their podcast next week.

Title: Re: TAR 32 EP 11 LIVE SHOW UPDATES AND COMMENTARY 12/9/20 8-9PM
Post by: alecbaldwin on December 21, 2020, 09:31:51 PM
I also recommend everyone go check out Gary’s Twitter. Apparently there was a lot more going on behind the scenes and between legs that weren’t shown on air, and while he disagrees with how DeAngelo phrased it, he understands. He doesn’t go into much depth about it (possibly due to NDAs) but one thing he mentions is how they actually had a two-team alliance with the beards from Leg 1 and they felt betrayed by them turning against them. I’m sure there’s more to it, but it’s made me a bit more sympathetic to the situation.
I agree. It must be hurted when the team(s) you thought caring about you actually didn't.

P. S. So that's why DeAngelo & Gary didn't U-turn Riley & Maddison, the team they kew 100% was behind them.