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Title: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2015, 12:45:04 PM
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Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 16, 2015, 12:45:41 PM
Africa!!

Posting after 740 PM is welcomed!
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Theo on October 16, 2015, 06:45:26 PM
happy TAR day :conf: :conf:

Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 06:46:13 PM
Hi everyone! :waves:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 16, 2015, 06:51:35 PM
Ready for another great leg!  :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Vitoko on October 16, 2015, 06:55:28 PM
Nooo!!! I'm gonna miss the beginning!  :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 16, 2015, 06:56:51 PM
Hooray Africa! :conf: Also, hooray for better Internet this week! :wohoo:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 16, 2015, 06:58:52 PM
In contrast to having alcohol for the South American legs, Zambia has left me no choicd but to be sober tonight. I have a Gatorade-size bottle of guava juice (reference to the Lynx Zambia bottled drink brand) and ready to see how much the country has changed since season 1.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 16, 2015, 07:00:05 PM
 :yess: Here we go!
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 07:01:50 PM
Previously on The Amazing Race...

In the first leg, Team Texas won the EP. In the last leg, they hashed a plan to get out Justin & Diana. At the RB, Justin added fuel to the fire but in a sprint for first place, Tanner & Josh beat their rivals.

At the detour, Denise kicked up a bus (? lol) while the cheerleaders stepped up a gear. When the dust settled, Ernest & Jin's race came to an end

8 teams remain. Who will be eliminated next? "Why are my pants so tight and yours so loose?" :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Lemontail on October 16, 2015, 07:06:12 PM
LOL, just saw Jennifer Aniston at a commercial, waiting the commercial is over and watch The Amazing Race.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 16, 2015, 07:06:52 PM
No reference to TAR1 for Livingstone?...
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 07:08:20 PM
Tanner & Josh talking to Kelsey & Joey about using the EP so they can U-Turn Justin & Diana. The team that gets there next will put up Tanner & Josh in the 2nd U-Turn spot, and Tanner & Josh will give them the EP. Kelsey & Joey taking that deal. Josh wants to spit on the deal lol.

Tanner & Josh - 3:47 PM. Fly to Livingstone, Zambia.

Justin & Diana - 3:48 PM. Justin got a feeling that Tanner & Josh want to U-Turn them.

Kelsey & Joey - 3:56 PM. Only 4 teams can get on the first flight.

Tanner & Josh on the first flight which arrives at 12:30 PM. Kelsey & Joey 2nd on first flight. Jazmine & Danielle - 4:14 PM. Logan & Chris - 4:25 PM. Logan and Chris arguing lol.

Jazmine & Danielle and Justin & Diana on the first flight.

Logan & Chris find out that they're on the 2nd flight. The difference between the flights is just 15 minutes.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Vitoko on October 16, 2015, 07:08:30 PM
NVM... quickest shower ever!

Oh my god, Victoria Falls... Today I decided to rewatch Leg 1 and 2 of Season 1 and I can't believe we are going back so many years later.  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 07:12:03 PM
Denise & James Earl and Cindy & Rick and Tiffany & Krista all talking about the deal to get out the Green Team. They're all joking about it lol.

All teams on the bus to Buenos Aires, and then from there they'll get on their flight.

When the teams land, proceed to Mukuni Village, Zambia. Teams will then receive a traditional Mukuni welcome.

Tanner still has his injury. Reporters in 1st rn and Tanner & Josh in 2nd. Justin & Diana in 3rd. Jazmine & Danielle in 4th.

Reporters first to arrive at the village. They got blessed by one of the women at the village. Tanner & Josh arriving at the village. They get spit in the face lol. Justin & Diana arrive and blessed as well.

Reporters first to get the clue. Make your way to Batoka Aerodrome and search for the next clue.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 16, 2015, 07:12:43 PM
We're going to Batoka "George" Aerodrome!
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Vitoko on October 16, 2015, 07:13:23 PM
Route wise this is such a love letter to US. The fans of TAR. And I can't be happier.

The classic spit from Mukuni Village!  :hearts:

Self driving is the only thing missing here.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 07:15:41 PM
Tanner & Josh 2nd to get clue. Justin & Diana 3rd. Jazmine & Danielle arrive at the village and get their clue in 4th.

Second flight arrives. Cindy & Rick 5th. Denise & James Earl 6th. Cheerleaders 7th. Logan & Chris in last.

Kelsey & Joey get the RB clue. "Who wants to rise above the smoke that thunders?" During their scenic flight on this motorbike hanglider thing, they must spot their next clue. It's a flag on a bridge it looks like.

Tanner & Josh going to use their EP. Diana doing the RB.

Tanner & Josh used their EP. Make your way to Victoria Falls, Zimbabwe. Proceed to Shoestrings Backpackers Lodge for their next clue.

Justin figuring that Texas going to U-Turn them... He says it's dumb.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 16, 2015, 07:16:15 PM
Is it just me or is anybody else loving Kelsey & Joey? :luvya:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 07:17:12 PM
Kelsey going on the flight and Diana going on the flight. Justin says that Tanner & Josh are creating an enemy because he says they're not going to get eliminated. Justin pretty much speaking to the camera lol and then at the end Joey says, "Well said." :lol:

Commercial.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 07:17:48 PM
"U-Turn anyone right behind you it never works out"

Kent & Vyxsin (TAR18) say hi.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Theo on October 16, 2015, 07:17:51 PM
That Roadblock will look gorgeous and stunning.


(hopefully)
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 16, 2015, 07:18:25 PM
Justin :barf
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 16, 2015, 07:19:32 PM
I'm hoping Team Texas will struggle at the detour now that they used the EP. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Vitoko on October 16, 2015, 07:19:41 PM
Tanner&Josh are so focused on eliminating Justin&Diana that they wasted their EP. If this doesn't pay off (it won't) this might be the dumbest use of an Express Pass in TAR history.

Is it just me or is anybody else loving Kelsey & Joey? :luvya:

They are growing on me :)
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 16, 2015, 07:19:48 PM
"U-Turn anyone right behind you it never works out"

Kent & Vyxsin (TAR18) say hi.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 16, 2015, 07:20:48 PM
Is it just me or is anybody else loving Kelsey & Joey? :luvya:

Me too (And it's not related with me being a journalist too :lol:)
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 16, 2015, 07:21:49 PM
I wonder how the secret alliances will turn out. It's very hard to play both sides. :gnome
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 16, 2015, 07:22:19 PM
#PuppetMastering <3333333333333333333333

JOEY GOD <3
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 07:24:35 PM
And we're back with Justin asking if Joey wants to create an alliance. Kelsey & Joey are playing both sides lol. Is this TAR or BB... :lol: Joey says he's puppet mastering.

Jazmine & Danielle arrive at the RB. Justin tells Danielle that Texas used the EP.

Kelsey really enjoying the flight. Diana enjoying the flight as well. There are hippos!!!

Cindy & Rick blessed at 5th. Denise & James Earl in 6th. Logan & Chris in 7th. Tiffany & Krista in 8th. Love that they're dancing.

Kelsey and Diana both looking for the flag. Jazmine is doing the RB. Kelsey still hasn't seen anything yet... but after a turn she sees the flag on a bridge. Diana sees it as well.

Tanner & Josh getting their passport stamped to get out of Zambia.

Jazmine saw the flag. Kelsey first to land. She knows where they're going. She tells the taxi driver where to go. Diana lands. Justin tells Diana about their alliance with the reporters.

Cindy & Rick arrive at the RB. Rick doing it. "I'm going to rise. Rise like a phoenix." :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 16, 2015, 07:25:03 PM
Rise Like A Phoenix, Rick <3
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 07:26:26 PM
"Nobody plays this game better than I do"

Rachel & Dave   Army Wife & Combat Pilot   1st   1st   6thε   2nd   4th   1stƒ   1st   2nd   1st   1st   1st   1st
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 07:26:54 PM
Come on Kelsey & Joey win the leg please!
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Vitoko on October 16, 2015, 07:29:29 PM
Noooo!!! Danielle&Jazmine! Where are you going?! NOOOOOOO!!
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 07:29:43 PM
Jazmine & Danielle =/

Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 07:29:50 PM
Tanner & Josh crossing the border into Zimbabwe. The border crossing is at a stand still...

Jazmine landing. Jazmine saw where the flag is.

Logan doing the RB. Denise doing the RB. Cindy said that Tanner & Josh should have used their EP on the detour because the RB only takes about 20 mins.

Tiffany & Krista arrive at the RB and see the hanglider thing. Krista doing the RB. Tiffany is nervous because she's not sure if Krista knows what to look for.

Kelsey & Joey at Victoria Falls and they're on the bridge. Justin & Diana right behind. Kelsey & Joey finish the RB in 2nd. Justin & Diana right behind. Make your way to Shoestrings.

Seems like Jazmine & Danielle are having navigation difficulties because Jazmine's not really sure what bridge... Seems like they're going to the wrong bridge because they're about to cross the border...

Logan saw double rainbows. Denise saw the clue.

Jazmine & Danielle see the bridge with the flag but now they have to head back into Zambia lol.

Cindy & Rick in the taxi to head off to the bridge.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 07:32:12 PM
Hours of Operation? This is so stupid, it's not even night! :res:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 07:32:15 PM
Krista saw the flag. Logan lands and she says she saw hippos, elephants and alligators. Denise is really pumped after she lands. Krista lands. Krista says it was incredible.

Cindy told Rick that Texas used the EP on the RB which will mess up the plan to get rid of Justin & Diana.

Tanner & Josh arrive at Shoestrings. They take a time. They take 8:00 AM. WOW HAHAHAHA. The departure times are staggered by 10 mins. They're not pleased that they used the EP on the RB...

Commercial.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 16, 2015, 07:32:17 PM
What a TERRIBLY structured leg..............................
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Theo on October 16, 2015, 07:32:51 PM
Rise Like A Phoenix, Rick <3

Rick channeling his inner Conchita <333
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 16, 2015, 07:33:04 PM
So it's basically gonna be Detour + U-Turn -> PS.............. WTF
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 07:33:23 PM
So awful to have an HOO in the middle of the leg but also makes me kind of lol???
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 16, 2015, 07:33:29 PM
Rise Like A Phoenix, Rick <3

Rick channeling his inner Conchita <333

What a STAR <3 :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 16, 2015, 07:34:06 PM
Mid-leg hours of operation?! (:;) What was the point of the Roadblock then?

And bad wi-fi on my phone....
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 16, 2015, 07:34:10 PM
Kelsey & Joey are giving off such great Max & Katie vibes TBH :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 07:34:28 PM
So awful to have an HOO in the middle of the leg but also makes me kind of lol???

It's like old era TAR but for new era TAR, it just sucks majorly tbh especially with a U-Turn???
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Lemontail on October 16, 2015, 07:35:39 PM
HOO, huh?
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Alenaveda on October 16, 2015, 07:36:38 PM
If this would have happened 4 legs later I would've said this is a classic case of race karma, but on the fourth leg...
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Vitoko on October 16, 2015, 07:38:03 PM
So awful to have an HOO in the middle of the leg but also makes me kind of lol???

It's like old era TAR but for new era TAR, it just sucks majorly tbh especially with a U-Turn???

It makes the eliminated team U-Turn dependent... such a bummer.

HOO, huh?

Hours Of Operation.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 07:38:35 PM
And we're back with Justin & Diana and Kelsey & Joey picking times. Justin & Diana got 8:00. Kelsey & Joey got 8:10. Justin said that Texas made a mistake.

Cindy & Rick finish the RB in 4th. Logan & Chris done in 5th. Denise & James Earl done in 6th. Alabama tells track and cheerleaders where to go. Track done in 7th.

Cindy & Rick get 8:10 AM. Logan & Chris pick 8:20 AM. Last 4 teams have 8:20. Tanner & Josh realize if they get U-Turned, they might be eliminated...

Justin says his confidence is through the roof right now and he's going to be confident, not cocky... o k
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 16, 2015, 07:39:30 PM
I'm supposed to complain about the leg design, but I'm actually happy that the EP being wasted could save Justin & Diana from getting U-turned. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 07:40:41 PM
I heard that Detour as Wood or Cocaine :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 07:41:47 PM
Justin tells Texas that he's not planning on U-Turning Texas. Texas says the next time the U-Turn comes up they'll use it on them.

Detour: Co-op or croquet
Wood (ok why is it called wood now...) - Finish these wood carvings.
Croquet - If they can score 5 points against a local player, they'll receive their next clue.

Green and Texas both pick croquet. Texas now planning to give the EP to whoever finishes after them.

Cindy & Rick pick co-op. They're not even sure what croquet is. Kelsey & Joey pick croquet. Logan & Chris pick co-op. Cheerleaders doing co-op. Jazmine & Danielle pick co-op. Denise & James Earl pick croquet. Teams getting in taxis.

Green and Texas arrive at croquet.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 07:42:31 PM
IN ALL THE PLACES IN ZIMBABWE WHY A HOTEL?  (:;)
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: elthemagnifico on October 16, 2015, 07:42:39 PM
hoO was terrible, but at least it got some drama thought  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 16, 2015, 07:42:49 PM
I heard that Detour as Wood or Cocaine :lol:
I actually heard Wood or Toh Kay. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: elthemagnifico on October 16, 2015, 07:43:25 PM
IN ALL THE PLACES IN ZIMBABWE WHY A HOTEL?  (:;)

Safety?
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 16, 2015, 07:44:49 PM
Gosh, the croquet Detour's editing is sooo boring.

Denise: "Y'all gotta get off the couch!" This should have been the title quote. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 07:45:41 PM
Gosh, the croquet Detour's editing is sooo boring.

Culturally irrelevant, dumb, and boring. Agreed.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 16, 2015, 07:45:44 PM
DENISE is such a QUEEN <3
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Vitoko on October 16, 2015, 07:46:06 PM
Gosh, the croquet Detour's editing is sooo boring.

Culturally irrelevant, dumb, and boring. Agreed.

Agreed.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 07:46:57 PM
No U-Turn???
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 16, 2015, 07:47:08 PM
I have a feeling this will be a Zero-Hour Pit Stop or Keep on Racing leg, because of the leg design (HoO).
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Vitoko on October 16, 2015, 07:47:35 PM
No U-Turn???

I heard someone say U-Turn ahead. But Phil didn't say anything.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 07:48:38 PM
Justin & Diana get 1 point.

Reporters arrive at croquet. Cindy & Rick arrive at co-op. They have to stain and polish a giraffe wood carving. The staining is done with a toothbrush. Cindy and Rick were hoping for a toothbrush challenge. :lol:

Basically everyone's at giraffe lol. Logan telling Chris to pick a small giraffe so there's less painting.

Tanner & Josh: 2/5. Kelsey is not great at croquet....... lol. Kelsey & Joey: 1/5. Justin & Diana: 4/5.

Denise hasn't played croquet since she was a kid. Tanner & Josh: 4/5. Kelsey & Joey's strategy was for Kelsey to try to knock away the opponent's ball and Joey scores. :lol:

Justin & Diana done the detour in 1st... Make your way to the next pit stop, Rose of Charity, which is an orphanage. Make a donation at the orphanage.

Tanner & Josh done the detour shortly after. Caution: U-Turn ahead.

Kelsey & Joey: 3/5. Denise & James Earl at croquet.

Both Justin & Diana and Tanner & Josh need taxis.

Cindy & Rick done staining and now they need to let it dry. Logan & Chris bickering lol. Cheerleaders not done yet and they're told it's 90% done. They're trying to ask where the 10% is.

Paparazzi done staining. Jazmine & Danielle at 99%. Cindy & Rick and Logan & Chris both trying to fan their giraffes to get the stain to dry...

Commercial.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: ZBC Company on October 16, 2015, 07:49:14 PM
No U-Turn???

I heard someone say U-Turn ahead. But Phil didn't say anything.

Mabye  surpise u turn
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 16, 2015, 07:49:47 PM
I can't fathom the sheer stupidity of this leg TBH. What are they playing at?
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 16, 2015, 07:50:11 PM
No U-Turn???

I heard someone say U-Turn ahead. But Phil didn't say anything.

Mabye  surpise u turn

Perhaps next leg? +My speculated ending.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: elthemagnifico on October 16, 2015, 07:50:24 PM
This leg confusing.me  ???
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 07:50:48 PM
This leg seems like it's heading for a KOR finish...? Less than 10 mins left in the episode...
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 07:50:53 PM
I can't fathom the sheer stupidity of this leg TBH. What are they playing at?

Exactly! We were promised a U-Turn, and with 10 minutes left this is definitely a KOR which means the U-Turn wasn't this leg. CBS LIED to us and I'm really disgusted.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Theo on October 16, 2015, 07:51:02 PM
Logan & Chris' quarrel is kinda funny? I don't know, but I begin to like them, it's like a dysfunctional couple that works. <3

Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Vitoko on October 16, 2015, 07:51:31 PM
I have a feeling this will be a Zero-Hour Pit Stop or Keep on Racing leg, because of the leg design (HoO).

Maybe the U-Turn is on the second part of the leg?  ???

Unless is on the same location as the pitstop making it completely idiotic.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 16, 2015, 07:53:55 PM
This leg seems like it's heading for a KOR finish...? Less than 10 mins left in the episode...

It really looks like.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: elthemagnifico on October 16, 2015, 07:54:33 PM
Hollywood taxis??  :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 07:54:57 PM
And we're back with teams asking for checks all over the place.

Cheerleaders done staining. Jazmine & Danielle done staining.

Cindy & Rick's giraffe is dry now and now they can apply the polish. Logan & Chris's giraffe is dry now.

Justin & Diana first in a taxi and Tanner & Josh behind them.

Denise & James Earl: 4/5. Kelsey & Joey: 4/5. Denise & James Earl already done LOL. They're done the detour in 3rd!!! Kelsey & Joey done in 4th.

THE U-TURN BOARD IS RIGHT AT THE PIT STOP??? WHAT THE HECK??? ??? Justin & Diana choose not to U-Turn anybody.

Justin & Diana on the mat and they're donating all their money.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Vitoko on October 16, 2015, 07:55:05 PM
Oh my GOD the u-turn board is right next to Phil!

WHY?! (:;) (:;) (:;) :gaah: :gaah: :gaah:
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Post by: elthemagnifico on October 16, 2015, 07:55:44 PM
Oh my GOD the u-turn board is right next to Phil!

WHY?! (:;) (:;) (:;) :gaah: :gaah: :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 16, 2015, 07:55:45 PM
I complain when we have a U-Turn right before the Pit Stop because it gives literally NO CHANCE to catch up and now we have a U-Turn right AT the Pit Stop..............
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 16, 2015, 07:56:22 PM
Dream come true! :ascared A U-turn right in front of the pit stop. :funny: The drama it could potentially make...
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 07:56:59 PM
Tanner & Logan see that Justin & Diana are already on the mat. It is a KOR leg! Tanner & Josh choose not to U-Turn anyone. They have more respect for the Green Team for not using the U-Turn on them. Justin & Diana reading out the clue. Proceed to Lookout Cafe, $65 for this leg.

Tanner & Josh donate their money. They are told they need to decide who gets the EP RIGHT NOW because it's a KOR leg... They didn't want to pick anyone because they don't want to pick favourites. TO BE CONTINUED.

Pit stop:
1st - Justin & Diana
2nd - Tanner & Josh
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 16, 2015, 07:57:08 PM
Giving another team a free Express pass? :barf
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Post by: ZBC Company on October 16, 2015, 07:57:19 PM
Stole ideal from isarl
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Theo on October 16, 2015, 07:57:45 PM
James Earl & Denise are god and goddesses <333

(and I'm flopping my PR)
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 16, 2015, 07:58:04 PM
If you ignore the fact TAR24 exists, this is absolutely the worst episode since 19.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 07:58:49 PM
That Pit Stop was so stupid! :res:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: ZBC Company on October 16, 2015, 07:59:10 PM
Too me best leg
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 07:59:22 PM
If you ignore the fact TAR24 exists, this is absolutely the worst episode since 19.

Worse episode since that atrocity of a second Thailand leg.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: stekay on October 16, 2015, 08:00:09 PM
This leg seemed awful just from reading this thread. I'm already over these 2 teams being top 2 over and over. Yawn.
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Post by: Polaroid on October 16, 2015, 08:00:16 PM
Next week on The Amazing Race...

Justin & Diana walk with royalty (lions), Kelsey & Joey brave the cage (alligators or crocodiles outside of the cage that they're in) and Tiffany takes the plunge.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 16, 2015, 08:00:22 PM
Giving another team a free Express pass? :barf

The effect of not using the EP wisely. :funny:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 16, 2015, 08:00:36 PM
If you ignore the fact TAR24 exists, this is absolutely the worst episode since 19.

Worse episode since that atrocity of a second Thailand leg.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 16, 2015, 08:00:55 PM
The mid-leg hours of operation actually creates some drama this time  :cheer:
The idea of having u-turn at the pit-stop is brillant :hearts:
Adds potential drama to the last place fighting  :cheer:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 08:01:16 PM
This leg seemed awful just from reading this thread. I'm already over these 2 teams being top 2 over and over. Yawn.

This! Can we have a Pit Stop reversal and get those two out?
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Theo on October 16, 2015, 08:01:18 PM
tbh I kinda like this leg. there's a lot of drama and karma and express pass burned.

 :peek
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 16, 2015, 08:04:39 PM
The mid-leg hours of operation actually creates some drama this time  :cheer:
The idea of having u-turn at the pit-stop is brillant :hearts:
Adds potential drama to the last place fighting  :cheer:

tbh I kinda like this leg. there's a lot of drama and karma and express pass burned.

 :peek

I'm on this side for this episode. :lol: However, I have some other comments for this episode.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Vitoko on October 16, 2015, 08:05:29 PM
OK. So let me calm down a bit...

This is a U-Turn board just before the beginning of the second part of a KOR leg. In this situation this might actually be OK, in any other situation it would be the moment I give up on the race. I hope the u-turned team gets the EP from Tanner&Josh making this U-Turn absolutely useless so we never see something like this happen again.

I'm so mad right now. I think I'm just gonna go and keep doing my rewatch of Season 1.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: elthemagnifico on October 16, 2015, 08:07:15 PM
Tbh it wasn't bad leg at all... At least Phil can see the expression of team that u-turned if it's happened... And drama Of EP looked epic...

But that u-turn twist at the pit stop...

RB was amazing but the detour just meh
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 08:08:57 PM
Honestly, we had a hot cast.

But I'm hating this season.

This is the "Worlds Apart" of new era TAR like Survivor.

TAR25= Cagayan (great but overrated)
TAR26= San Juan Del Sur (people hated it but it was pretty decent)
TAR27=Worlds Apart (no comment lol)
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 16, 2015, 08:10:28 PM
This cast is quite amazing and they are absolutely delivering. Probably the best cast since TAR17 (with the exception of 25's amazingness) for me.

But the race itself is completely falling apart.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 08:11:18 PM
This cast is quite amazing and they are absolutely delivering. Probably the best cast since TAR17 (with the exception of 25's amazingness) for me.

But the race itself is completely falling apart.

X
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: cbacbacba1 on October 16, 2015, 08:11:58 PM
I love the idea of locating u-turn at the pit-stop
It is great in certain aspect :
1) We will see how last place teams react to prevent potential last-place
2) Phil's attitude on the u-turn
3) Brutal to see the team get u-turned just before getting checked-in  :yess:

The u-turn adds more point this leg because of a KOR setting instead of a NEL
So the effect of u-turn becomes more powerful to determine the result of the second half :yess:

Hope they will do this more in the future  :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 08:13:04 PM
It's really gross to have a U-Turn already before the Pit Stop, as the U-Turned team is screwed either way.

This took it to almost absurd levels. Really hope they don't do that again, especially since teams weren't 100% bunched at the Detour?
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Bookworm on October 16, 2015, 08:13:14 PM
Wtf is with this season. The teams and locations are great, but the leg design and editing are just terrible.
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Post by: TheRabbi on October 16, 2015, 08:19:14 PM
I'm not quite sure I get all the hate for this leg.  I understand that the editing constantly focusing on the two leading teams' "rivalry" is extremely annoying after a while, but it was still a good leg.  Fantastic vistas, and since it was  TBC, the mid-leg bunch basically takes the place of a bunch that would normally start the next leg.  I actually think it's kind of a clever way to mess with the teams a little bit.

Side note:  Justin won me over when he started singing the song that TAR uses every time they go to Africa.  Loved that moment so much!!
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 16, 2015, 08:19:51 PM
They do legs like these and we wonder why they stop winning Emmys... :res:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Bookworm on October 16, 2015, 08:26:20 PM
They do legs like these and we wonder why they stop winning Emmys... :res:
X
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 16, 2015, 08:31:23 PM
And I thought being sober was actually a good thing tonight. This Leg is truly a V8 smack in the forehead. Not only was this a "keep on racing" episode, the entire framework and editing of this leg was like the sound a balloon makes as it quickly loses oxygen zipping through the air. Two good things that came from it were seeing the adorable children from Rose of Charity and Denise's "Y'all got to get off the couch!" As for Tanner & Josh - yeesh - they are pieces of work. I've now made them a more clear synonym for the verb "Aaron & Arianne-ing". I guess fruit juice isn't a good beverage to have during TAR.

LEG 4 (Argentina --> Zambia --> Zimbabwe) EPISODE REVIEW
Drink: Guava juice
So the beginning of the show felt like a start of Survivor with an alliance recap and a team playing both sides. Tanner & Josh really made me try not to reenact the Mukuni Village greeter. And there's that.

ROADBLOCK: (Who wants to take a Switchback to TAR12 via TAR1?)
I honestly really enjoyed the reactions of team members when they toured Victoria Falls from the sky. Something about the experience felt very real and open for me even when I was on the edge of my sofa. Though, not very creative, I liked the part where teams had to find the next clue box instead of just repeating what they viewed.
ROADBLOCK SCORE: 9/10
 
Passing into Zimbabwe, we were met with - I can't believe it - a mid-leg overnight rest. :groan: Now what was the point of that Roadblock??! I thought this was a race, not a vacation.

DETOUR: (African Giraffe or Victorian Golf)
As much as I liked the arts & crafts task, I have no further comment on it other than Logan & Chris needing to be cooperative. They chose "co-op" for a reason, duhh. :lol: The croquet task --- :nopoints. That was just a random, boring task. Please tell me croquet was invented or even once popular in Zimbabwe or any locales of Southern Africa.
DETOUR SCORE: 6/10

And now the U-Turn would have provided some painstaking drama, but that didn't happen. Though I'd like to see how it can go in affect next episode or if it is even used at all.

OVERALL: 7/10
Also, does anybody know great Zimbabwean drinks?
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Keepcopz on October 16, 2015, 08:38:16 PM
Seemed like lots of people are being letdown by this season so far. :lol: (I haven't watch Ep 2-4 yet, just read the commentary.)

But remember, 26 had a rocky start for the first 4-5 legs too. But it get SO MUCH BETTER once it touch Europe and keep its momentum to the end. With the cast still delivered, I hope this season can turned it over and get better once it touch Europe too!
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 16, 2015, 08:49:05 PM
This episode was great... because of the drama! :funny: It's not the best definitely, because that title would go to Leg 3 for now.

Roadblock: The scenery just can't be expressed by words. :faint: Plus, the task was really simple, but some team just had to use the EP. :funny: At first I thought: Okay. They have a good lead, but not a safe lead. When I saw the HoO, I thought: Wow! :funny: Justin & Diana has a chance now. :yess:

HoO: Because the leg has a ZHPS, this was okay. However, the speculations on this could lead to the ZHPS that I expected, which loses the suspense factor, but since when did ZHPS become suspenseful? (Since it's easy to figure out by the amount of time left before the end of the show.) Leg structure-wise, this wasn't good; drama-wise: :yess:

Detour: The wood detour was cool. I got to see some culture there. The croquet one though, I don't see its culture. ??? Maybe there is, but it's either I missed Phil's narration to it or it wasn't mentioned to be cultural. Furthermore, I can see the imbalance of the detour. Croquet looks easy, but the wood requires waiting for the paint to dry up, then polishing. The process seems longer for the wood detour.

U-turn: I actually envisioned having a U-turn like this. :funny: The host is watching from the pit stop, and he gets to see the action and reaction of the teams involved in the U-turn, or a least all the teams deciding on the U-turn. I'm glad I got to see something like this. :funny: Only a ZHPS can give this type of U-turn some good hope, but I actually envisioned this on an ordinary elimination leg. :stare Anyhow, I like it! :yess: I'm not sure if they should do it again, but I'm okay with them doing it again. :lol: They just have to make sure they're gonna use it properly, like this episode's because of the ZHPS.

EP: With the EP's deadline shortened, and it's not won in pairs anymore, I thought the EP would just be an imagination for this season, but I'm really glad about the drama here. :hearts: :funny: :snicker: Remember TAR22 with the 2EP twist? It wasn't much back then, so I didn't like the idea of it. In TAR23, the drama it caused made me actually like the twist. :lol: This season, I thought I wouldn't like the EP to be used only up until Leg 5, but I'm glad the drama gave light to the EP again. :hearts: It was in the shadows for 2-3 seasons, because the team who gets it only uses it on the 8th leg. :( This one though, the drama this thing created made me like the episode more! :funny: :funny: :funny: The additional twist of handing it to another team after its usage was actually the cause of the suspense left to the viewers. :funny: Without that twist, Tanner & Josh would just keep going. I'm really glad the EP has stepped away from the shadows again! :yess: :hoot: :cheer: :hearts: :trampb: :conf: :luvya: :hrt: :bunny :wohoo: (P.S. The EP is my favorite "thing" in TAR.)

Conclusion: Due to the announce-U-turn-in-1st-clue trend which started in TAR16 and the EP mechanics this season, the drama this episode was well done! :funny: :funny: :funny: Without those, I'm almost sure the episode will be dull with the HoO and the imbalanced detour. The scenery in Africa is still wonderful anyway! :<3

What else...? ???

Jazmine & Danielle were unlucky with the cab at the roadblock. Good thing there was a HoO.
Kelsey & Joey finally got enough screentime! :hearts:

Tanner & Josh making a big mistake by using the EP made this episode a lot better! Without the EP and the W-turn, this episode would most likely be dull.

So at the end of the episode, I like it, but not as much as how I like Leg 3. The drama this leg was really the one that made this episode really good! :hearts:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 16, 2015, 08:57:11 PM
I just checked Wikipedia and realized that Justin & Diana weren't told of what they've won for checking in 1st. :ascared Did they win anything?
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 09:00:07 PM
That leg was like a giant puff of chocolate with all the sights and no substance.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 16, 2015, 09:00:54 PM
Several things to keep in mind about the leg design for this leg and possibly the next.
The producers had to work with the fact that they were in Zimbabwe for parts of both legs. I think that had a lot to do with the decision for a KOR leg.
Since the Race was using a charity for a pitstop, it made sense to have the U-Turn and then place it at the pitstop to discourage it being used. And while we rarely see evidence of production at the pitstop on screen, the location of that U-Turn sign right next to Phil and the check-in mat, likely also meant that the BTS producttion normally close to the pit stop, weren't. This will likely tip off the later arriving teams that since the top teams didn't use the U-Turn, its probably not an rest period, and that no one is being elimination.

The croquet is a remnant of colonial era ZImbabwe (which had been a British colony, hence the costuming from late 19th century and the use of a specific hotel that fits into that motif.

I would not be surprised if the leg 5 pit stop is on the other side of the river (in Zambia) even though the teams may have flown out of Zimbabwe. On the other hand, since they arrived at Livingstone, they may well have departed from there. That is a change from TAR 1 when teams flew to Johannesburg and then a charter into the Victoria Falls area.

As such I had few problems with the leg design, as it is apparent production planned these pieces carefully because of the use of Zimbabwe.

Edit: Bill Bartek of Team Guido just tweeted out the following:
Quote
Good to see #MukuniVillage has a #paved road! @AmazingRace_CBS #RHAP #amazingrace #VictoriaFalls #knifesedgebridge #batokageorge #TAR1
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 16, 2015, 09:04:49 PM
If the U-Turn was placed where it was to "discourage it from being used", why have a U-Turn at all?
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: theschnauzers on October 16, 2015, 09:15:41 PM
If the U-Turn was placed where it was to "discourage it from being used", why have a U-Turn at all?

The same reason why TAR sometimes has a literally impossible Detour option on some detours; to force the teams to do otherwise. That really isn't hard to figure out. It's why the old "strip 'em of their cash" penalty for coming in last on a NEL was used, and then subsequently avoided in poor countries before being dropped completely as it was unseemly for teams to be begging for money in such places, which fits with the use of the orphanage for the U-Turn Board and the check-in mat in this leg.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Prama on October 16, 2015, 09:57:15 PM
The episode was good, casts and drama were great, tasks and locations were awesome.... But then, the midleg HoO and U-Turn board right at the pit stop ruined it all. kthx.
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Post by: couchracer on October 16, 2015, 10:02:04 PM
I was shocked when Texas used the EP at what was a really cool RB. Imagine giving up that sightseeing flight, and then find out you pretty much wasted the EP. At least they used it. Why act surprised when you have to name who gets the other EP? I think one of the girl teams probably. Reporters are a little low key, but might get more airtime now. I'm loving the drama.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: RachelLeVega on October 16, 2015, 10:23:27 PM
The croquet is a remnant of colonial era ZImbabwe (which had been a British colony, hence the costuming from late 19th century and the use of a specific hotel that fits into that motif.

Edit: Bill Bartek of Team Guido just tweeted out the following:
Quote
Good to see #MukuniVillage has a #paved road! @AmazingRace_CBS #RHAP #amazingrace #VictoriaFalls #knifesedgebridge #batokageorge #TAR1
:spy: Thanks for the fun fact about croquet in Zimbabwe, schnauzer. Now the task seems a bit more concentrated than I had initially thought.

Team Guido's tweet :wohoo:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Maanca on October 16, 2015, 11:01:31 PM
Kelsey & Joey are totally going to get the second Express Pass. The edit has shown all the non-#TeamTexas talk about the alliance coming from them.
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Post by: paradoxinee on October 16, 2015, 11:06:49 PM
How long does it take to travel from RB to Shoes String? They arrived Zambia around 12:30 PM and travel a lot. Like if it's already close to sunset (even we still saw dayly light), that might be the reason there was HOH.
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Post by: fossil-racer on October 16, 2015, 11:17:07 PM
I think TAR needs to work on the leg designs more. We don't have many chances left and if this is what TAR becomes, the show is a goner. :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 16, 2015, 11:53:46 PM
I think TAR needs to work on the leg designs more. We don't have many chances left and if this is what TAR becomes, the show is a goner. :gaah:

They definitely have to step it up, but ratings and the Emmys will be the defining factors.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Glamazon Racer on October 17, 2015, 12:03:19 AM
If the U-Turn was placed where it was to "discourage it from being used", why have a U-Turn at all?

The same reason why TAR sometimes has a literally impossible Detour option on some detours; to force the teams to do otherwise. That really isn't hard to figure out. It's why the old "strip 'em of their cash" penalty for coming in last on a NEL was used, and then subsequently avoided in poor countries before being dropped completely as it was unseemly for teams to be begging for money in such places, which fits with the use of the orphanage for the U-Turn Board and the check-in mat in this leg.

I don't really think that's the same idea, personally. I understand having one Detour be harder to force teams to do the other option which is more exciting/looks better on TV/other such reasons. But while the race might gain something from a Detour option being unvisited, the race doesn't actually gain anything from a U-Turn being unused. We could get a lot more drama from a better-positioned U-Turn on a different leg in my opinion.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: bottle on October 17, 2015, 12:27:29 AM
i really loved first three legs but this leg was god too i guess i'm loving this season
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 17, 2015, 01:14:38 AM
I love the idea of locating u-turn at the pit-stop
It is great in certain aspect :
1) We will see how last place teams react to prevent potential last-place
2) Phil's attitude on the u-turn
3) Brutal to see the team get u-turned just before getting checked-in  :yess:

The u-turn adds more point this leg because of a KOR setting instead of a NEL
So the effect of u-turn becomes more powerful to determine the result of the second half :yess:

Hope they will do this more in the future  :hearts:

I agree to this! :hoot:
With today's leg design, perhaps a 2-hour episode airing Legs 4 and 5 will lessen other's hate tension. ??? Anyway, I still enjoyed it. :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 17, 2015, 01:48:47 AM
Is anyone else annoyed that Zambia won't get a Pitstop?
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: ovalorange on October 17, 2015, 07:14:12 AM
That hands down was one of the worst episodes in years. I agree with all that's been said so far:

- The U-turn trash talking for a good 10 minutes that amounted into absolutely nothing
- The horrible placement of the U-Turn
- The HoO in the middle of the leg with a looming U-turn

Yikes!

Shame this cast and route can't save this season, both seem decent for the most part.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: redskevin88 on October 17, 2015, 07:25:42 AM
This is for Tanner & Josh  :funny:

(https://photos-1.dropbox.com/t/2/AAAfGS3j4iwiha3q-SqHETg80255mS9hygZnga5XRKAkaA/12/263118619/png/32x32/1/_/1/2/clapping_dimples_685px-500x318.png/EPuJ_PUBGKUHIAcoBw/_zaFD-yGwUxIz68jEyQE6MiKGQv_W3qTZHTGHyUYMGo?size=1024x768&size_mode=2)
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Post by: katrarinka on October 17, 2015, 07:46:47 AM
I think that the boys played really dumm - why give up express pass for possibility to u-turn a team which probably wont be eliminated? Sorry guys but that was really dumm.... :hoot:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Lemontail on October 17, 2015, 07:48:37 AM
I'm tired with Tanner & Josh and Justin & Diana always getting big amount of airtime. Hopefully it's going to be more diverse with teams.
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Post by: TARUSAFan on October 17, 2015, 08:01:03 AM
Another underwhelming leg in a nice country all because of the drama  :(
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 17, 2015, 08:16:01 AM
After rewatching the episode, I noticed some things.

The croquet detour was not mentioned as anything related to Zimbabwean culture. Maybe a brief description from Phil would make this somewhat better, but the detour was really imbalanced. Denise & JE arrived at the detour in last, yet they finished 3rd by doing the croquet detour. ChacAttack were doing fine on the other side of the detour, and they were the 3rd or 4th to start it, yet at the end of the episode, they weren't done with the detour yet. On a somewhat unrelated note, ChacAttack's reaction to Texas using the EP was :funny: for me. The detour imbalance is I think the only thing I didn't like from this episode. The episode with all the drama was really good! :funny:

Tanner & Josh gave a confessional before leaving for the detour. They said that their new plan was to give it to the team next to them, so I'm wondering if they'll be waiting at the pit stop for that one team. ???

On other confessionals of Justin & Diana and Tanner & Josh, both teams said that they'd use the U-turn on each other when they get the opportunity to on the next one. (Spoiler alert)
Show content
I can't wait for the U-turn in India! :hearts:


I also thought that Logan & Chris weren't getting enough screentime, but I must've disregarded Logan's continuous blabbering on Chris. :lol: They seem to be working fine despite that though. :funny:
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Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on October 17, 2015, 08:43:23 AM
I actually loved the drama? But I agree, stop focusing on just THEM two. We ARE shown what happens to the other teams, but only when they make errors... i.e Jazmine & Danielle... it would be nice to see some funny/lol moments from them but we're stuck seeing them get lost to the Roadblock which was a good and bad addition to the episode imo.

I don't know... the drama in TAR 20 was more fun to watch. Brenchel and Vanessa/Ralph still had their moments, that's probably why. There's nothing redeeming about Texas and the Green Team (though, I do like Texas... sorry don't hurt me :lol: I NEVER like M/M teams but I like them a lot for some reason.. probably because they're the voice of the audience... hate Justin).

What's really dragging the season down for me is the TASKS. They're so generic and boring and it doesn't help that the Detours are incredibly unbalanced. I'm sorry I mention TAR 25 like all the time but they had: the punting task, the sheep task, the Denmark Detour, the Morocco Detour, the knights/glass task... just to name a few. These tasks just feel so uninspired!
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Post by: gamerfan09 on October 17, 2015, 08:45:31 AM
Brenchel and Vanessa/Ralph>>>>>>x100000000 over the rivalry on 27.

TAR20, even though the rivalry was there, at least the other teams were still there rather than the constant focus on them.
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Post by: NMC on October 17, 2015, 09:00:28 AM
I'm pretty much the opposite from almost everyone else here.  I thought the first half of this Leg was awful, but once they reached the HoO it became great.  Absolutely loved Tanner & Josh totally wasting their EP.  :yess:

I LOVED the idea of having the U-Turn at the Pitstop, and the unexpected KOR was a great addition.

The thing that annoyed me most though, was the all the time spent on showing us this rivalry between Tanner & Josh and Justin & Diana, and their whole U-Turn Strategy, for it to amount to absolutely nothing.  :groan:

They also spoiled the outcome of Tanner & Josh not U-Turning Justin & Diana, when it showed one of them saying in their confessional (I think it was one of their confessionals just after getting the clue for the Pitstop) - "The next time the U-Turn shows up we're gonna use it on Justin & Diana."  So it was obvious they didn't use the one on this Leg.

And, once again, unlike almost everyone else, I'm finding this Season extremely boring.  I really don't care for the Teams.  :'( 
There were 5 GREAT teams this Season for me, and 3 of them we're the first 3 Eliminated.  The other 2, Chris & Logan - Who's constant bickering is starting to annoy me, and Cindy & Rick - Who are now the only team left that I genuinely want to see do well.

The Drama doesn't interest me a great deal either, for the simple fact that its ALL to do with TeamTexas Vs. GreenTeam.  blahblah   :gaah:

Basically, the last 20 mins or so of this Leg is the best thing we've got all Season.  I'm really hoping this is the start of it picking up, because I really haven't been enjoying it so far.  :'(
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Post by: Lutpay on October 17, 2015, 09:31:30 AM
I still don't get the benefit of using U-turn which is placed right in front of pitstop. Eventhough you're second to last and you can see another team 20 seconds behind you, you can just make a quick run to the mat without wasting your U-turn, especially this early. Even you don't know where the other teams are, it doesn't matter, you already reach the pitstop.

I think this new placement of the U-turn is just for the team who'll be using it for personal reason or just to annoy their rival.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: paradoxinee on October 17, 2015, 09:50:51 AM
After rewatching the episode, I noticed some things.

The croquet detour was not mentioned as anything related to Zimbabwean culture. Maybe a brief description from Phil would make this somewhat better, but the detour was really imbalanced. Denise & JE arrived at the detour in last, yet they finished 3rd by doing the croquet detour. ChacAttack were doing fine on the other side of the detour, and they were the 3rd or 4th to start it, yet at the end of the episode, they weren't done with the detour yet. On a somewhat unrelated note, ChacAttack's reaction to Texas using the EP was :funny: for me. The detour imbalance is I think the only thing I didn't like from this episode. The episode with all the drama was really good! :funny:

Tanner & Josh gave a confessional before leaving for the detour. They said that their new plan was to give it to the team next to them, so I'm wondering if they'll be waiting at the pit stop for that one team. ???

On other confessionals of Justin & Diana and Tanner & Josh, both teams said that they'd use the U-turn on each other when they get the opportunity to on the next one. (Spoiler alert)
Show content
I can't wait for the U-turn in India! :hearts:


I also thought that Logan & Chris weren't getting enough screentime, but I must've disregarded Logan's continuous blabbering on Chris. :lol: They seem to be working fine despite that though. :funny:

No, Phil said that they have to decide the team and Phil will help them to give the EP to that team.
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Post by: stekay on October 17, 2015, 10:14:41 AM
I don't think I'll bother catching up until the next episode airs so I can just watch it like one episode.
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Post by: Genius on October 17, 2015, 10:26:53 AM
Of the four legs so far, I like this one the most. Joey and Kelsey are the unexpected stars (for this episode at least).

I was initially surprised by the strange placement of the U Turn board, but it made sense given that it would be a KOR leg.

So, will this season have a second KOR?
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: kiki on October 17, 2015, 10:41:55 AM
I still don't get the benefit of using U-turn which is placed right in front of pitstop. Eventhough you're second to last and you can see another team 20 seconds behind you, you can just make a quick run to the mat without wasting your U-turn, especially this early. Even you don't know where the other teams are, it doesn't matter, you already reach the pitstop.

I think this new placement of the U-turn is just for the team who'll be using it for personal reason or just to annoy their rival.

I agree 100%. This U-turn was completely useless and the only way it would be used was for vindictive reasons.
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Post by: gabriel90 on October 17, 2015, 11:37:07 AM
Must be the worst episode ever! Half of it is promo for the falls the rest is only trash talk between Greens and Texas. Challenges were so easy and simple it is not worthy of the amazing race!
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Post by: TARUSAFan on October 17, 2015, 11:43:41 AM
I've seen posts about how the Croquet task is not culturally relevant in Zimbabwe. To shed some light. Zimbabwe was formerly known as Southern Rhodesia, Rhodesia and Zimbabwe Rhodesia. It used to be British colony up from the late 1800's up until its independence from United Kingdom in 1965, only recognized in 1980. Croquet on the other hand originated from United Kingdom. So, maybe it is possible that the British brought and played croquet in Zimbabwe. The site of the Detour, the Victoria Falls Hotel used to house British royalties and held political meetings.  :spy:


~ Zambia was last visited in Season 1, and Zimbabwe, is a new country visited. I expected great tasks, all I got was rivalries. (:;) Looking back at Season 25, when they visited a new country, Malta. They showed rivalries there but it was subtle . It focused on Malta and the Maltese tasks and how teams felt about it. On the bright side, at least I got to see the Victoria Falls again. What a marvelous sight to see which I hope to see in person. Also, the visit to the orphanage. The pit stop greeter is the founder of the orphanage. I like how TAR gives back to the countries they visited :) Can we see other teams win the next few legs.
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Post by: Hysha on October 17, 2015, 11:51:22 AM
I'm tired with Tanner & Josh and Justin & Diana always getting big amount of airtime. Hopefully it's going to be more diverse with teams.

I feel the same. Tired of that. Sorry for both teams, but I hope they get eliminated soon. There are more teams in there! At least I suppose that will change when one of them gets eliminated. I hope.
Even though I'm tired of both teams, it's obvious that they have the best positions. They are "the best" teams... I can see any of them winning and  :'( (:;) :gaah:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 17, 2015, 12:41:52 PM
Tanner & Josh gave a confessional before leaving for the detour. They said that their new plan was to give it to the team next to them, so I'm wondering if they'll be waiting at the pit stop for that one team. ???


No, Phil said that they have to decide the team and Phil will help them to give the EP to that team.

That was mentioned too, but the episode ended in a cliffhanger. :)
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 17, 2015, 12:47:32 PM
Now that I realize it, the rivalry is indeed taking too much screentime. It's in every episode, and it's the highlight of every episode. I don't mind all the U-turn talk amounting to nothing, but some teams lose valuable screentime because of the highlight.

My opinion on the edit: I don't hate it, but I find it annoying. For this one, I blame the editors. :groan:
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Post by: Belle Book on October 17, 2015, 01:28:34 PM
I can see why a lot of people are annoyed by the constant focus on the Green Team and Team Texas.  That's probably why the editing is viewed as being awful.  But there was one very good thing about the rivalry:  Team Texas burning their Express Pass on the Roadblock instead of at the Detour and then finding out the Hours of Operation!  That was funny to me!

I think Team Texas suffered a case of not being able to see the forest for the trees.  They were so focused on getting rid of the Green Team that they didn't stop to think about when the best time would be to use the Express Pass!  They looked too far ahead and paid the price for it.
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Post by: Dånooky on October 17, 2015, 01:30:20 PM
I feel people are whining because the design wasn't "perfect". So I'll just give my two cents on every element of the leg:

1. RB. First and foremost, TAR has always been about showcasing how the world is wonderful. Scenery porn has been present since the first episode. Even if it's a competition, the show is also an opportunity for the racers to take in the view.

2. The HoO. For people who don't cross borders frequently, you should know that it can get pretty messy. If you have luck you can cross in the first 15 minutes, but sometimes you can get stuck for 2+ hours, so the whole scheduling could have been ruined and teams would have been impossibly spread out without the bunching at shoestrings. Plus, it was a curve ball thrown at the teams, who frankly probably deserved some rest after their extremely long trip from South America. Also, think about having to have kids at the orphanage wait up until late at night.

3. The Detour. While I agree the cultural relevance should receive more of a spotlight, I feel the choice offered was a difficult one. Think about it, teams who went for co-op tended to be teams who had no idea what croquet is.

4. The U-Turn placement. After giving teams a treat at the RB and a chance to relax, a way to keep them on their toes is not knowing if they're U-Turned right before the Pit Stop. At the same time, if teams don't know it's KOR, being with the kids at the orphanage would help us see teams' true colors (will the compassion inspired by the charity overcome the teams' competitiveness or vindictiveness). Or if they learn it's a KOR they could add some padding to the next leg.

To me , the theme for this leg was emotional manipulation, making choices and dealing with the unexpected. Specially at the end: team Texas had made a pact with all other teams over who would get the EP, but the deal didn't come through. No they're at the point of gaining 5 more enemies depending on their choice.
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Post by: RaceUntilWeDie on October 17, 2015, 03:57:49 PM
Aww this insider video makes me feel so bad for Justin & Diana. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltFVgB30Wm0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltFVgB30Wm0)
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Post by: dryedmangoez on October 17, 2015, 05:42:38 PM
Brenchel and Vanessa/Ralph>>>>>>x100000000 over the rivalry on 27.

TAR20, even though the rivalry was there, at least the other teams were still there rather than the constant focus on them.
Well on TAR20, the other teams got involved too and took sides.  Here, it seems no one else really cares lol

Tanner & Josh's plan was okay.  But it was thwarted by the equalizer and Leg design which was mainly done for the TBC Leg.  Otherwise, the least it could've done if it worked was get Justin & Diana toward the bottom of the pack.  Or even eliminated since the giraffe side of the Detour was tedious and time consuming.
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Post by: runningblind on October 17, 2015, 06:10:42 PM
Aww this insider video makes me feel so bad for Justin & Diana. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltFVgB30Wm0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltFVgB30Wm0)

Not working where I live... ;/
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 17, 2015, 06:26:27 PM
I can see why a lot of people are annoyed by the constant focus on the Green Team and Team Texas.  That's probably why the editing is viewed as being awful.  But there was one very good thing about the rivalry:  Team Texas burning their Express Pass on the Roadblock instead of at the Detour and then finding out the Hours of Operation!  That was funny to me!

No Belle Book, that is precisely NOT the reason why the editing sucks.

The editing has been slowly falling by the seams beginning TAR25.

On TAR25/26...
-Not all teams are shown reading the clue when they get it
-Not all teams are shown departing the Pit Stop
-Not all teams are shown in airport scramble (they already get on the flight and it sucked)
-Not all teams are told of their placement upon checking in at the Pit Stop.

On 27 so far is is 100% worse because...
-It has all the problems above and more
-The editing is just so sloppy, you never feel like it's a proper Race. We would stay at a task for loads of minutes, then the minute a team gets to the next task, we get a lot of focus there, and all the other teams are just shown as "getting their clue" in the most basic way possible of just flashing their name with the CURRENTLY IN XTH PLACE subtitle.
-There is simply too much focus on the tasks rather than the competition. It is always more fun to see teams chasing after each other getting stuff rather than see them do a task.

And the thing that 100% sucks is that the Secret Scenes (more so this season than 25-26) have all scenes that could have been edited in for an amazing episode. A lot of the Secret Scenes are definitely good and would have helped the show. Full scenes such as teams getting lost, the reveal of a reason that eliminated a team, a team having a meltdown on an otherwise uninspired Detour are all on the Secret Scenes, and it really is mind-boggling that they would choose to omit those amazing scenes and keep terrible ones in.

So yes... TAR needs to step it up with editing. Even if the tasks aren't culturally relevant 100% of the time, the editing would really help! (See 24 Kuala Lumpur, arguably my favorite leg from that atrocity of a season... bad, culturally irrelevant tasks and some of the teams were total garbage but very fun editing and competition made it a good ep)
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: gamerfan09 on October 17, 2015, 08:25:56 PM
Speaking of this leg, ALL the Secret Scenes delivered for EVERY single team.

We had:
-The amazing revelation that Danielle is afraid of ketchup <3
-Cindy & Rick somehow failing to put on a poncho as they ran to start the leg :lol:
-Tanner & Josh not only misusing their Express Pass, but staying in a TENT outside of the hotel while EVERYONE got a room
-More fun Kelsey & Joey strategy talk <3
-Some Mona & Beth/Kym & Alli style editing that could have been used to paint Justin as this threat that everyone talks trash about and wants him out (could have DEFINITELY enhanced the story for this leg by showing both teams as having a slightly heroic edit to the audience[Tanner & Josh (evil)- Justin & Diana (good) and get their plans foiled].
-Jazmine & Danielle not only crossing the border early but running past the HoO board THREE times :lol:
-More Cindy & Rick gossiping about the EP <3
-Cindy & Rick giving out a confessional about naming their Giraffe at the Detour then Rick saying they named their sofa Oscar the Couch :lol:

IDK, it was just really so weird that the editors would leave out fun stuff like that in favour of spending THIRTY minutes on a Roadblock all about heights that was linear in nature and didn't do much other than give us gorgeous Victoria Falls =/
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Post by: paradoxinee on October 17, 2015, 10:46:52 PM
Yeah the RB is not so linear with potentially losing like the Trackstar. Something could happen just like last season final task (aka Hayley).

The thing they should cut is that the teams were talking too much about the plan to U-turn the Green team and how Texas misused their EP.

I enjoys that gorgeous RB and how the teams enjoying it.
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Post by: WinTar on October 17, 2015, 11:01:38 PM
ewww TAR27
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 18, 2015, 02:54:10 AM
Team Texas burning their Express Pass on the Roadblock instead of at the Detour and then finding out the Hours of Operation!  That was funny to me!

I think Team Texas suffered a case of not being able to see the forest for the trees.  They were so focused on getting rid of the Green Team that they didn't stop to think about when the best time would be to use the Express Pass!  They looked too far ahead and paid the price for it.

I agree! :funny: This serves as a lesson to them, and to future racers who would plan on U-turning somebody while having an EP.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 18, 2015, 03:01:56 AM
The editing has been slowly falling by the seams beginning TAR25.

On TAR25/26...
-Not all teams are shown reading the clue when they get it
-Not all teams are shown departing the Pit Stop
-Not all teams are shown in airport scramble (they already get on the flight and it sucked)
-Not all teams are told of their placement upon checking in at the Pit Stop.

On 27 so far is is 100% worse because...
-It has all the problems above and more
-The editing is just so sloppy, you never feel like it's a proper Race. We would stay at a task for loads of minutes, then the minute a team gets to the next task, we get a lot of focus there, and all the other teams are just shown as "getting their clue" in the most basic way possible of just flashing their name with the CURRENTLY IN XTH PLACE subtitle.
-There is simply too much focus on the tasks rather than the competition. It is always more fun to see teams chasing after each other getting stuff rather than see them do a task.

And the thing that 100% sucks is that the Secret Scenes (more so this season than 25-26) have all scenes that could have been edited in for an amazing episode. A lot of the Secret Scenes are definitely good and would have helped the show. Full scenes such as teams getting lost, the reveal of a reason that eliminated a team, a team having a meltdown on an otherwise uninspired Detour are all on the Secret Scenes, and it really is mind-boggling that they would choose to omit those amazing scenes and keep terrible ones in.

So yes... TAR needs to step it up with editing. Even if the tasks aren't culturally relevant 100% of the time, the editing would really help! (See 24 Kuala Lumpur, arguably my favorite leg from that atrocity of a season... bad, culturally irrelevant tasks and some of the teams were total garbage but very fun editing and competition made it a good ep)
Speaking of this leg, ALL the Secret Scenes delivered for EVERY single team.

We had:
-The amazing revelation that Danielle is afraid of ketchup <3
-Cindy & Rick somehow failing to put on a poncho as they ran to start the leg :lol:
-Tanner & Josh not only misusing their Express Pass, but staying in a TENT outside of the hotel while EVERYONE got a room
-More fun Kelsey & Joey strategy talk <3
-Some Mona & Beth/Kym & Alli style editing that could have been used to paint Justin as this threat that everyone talks trash about and wants him out (could have DEFINITELY enhanced the story for this leg by showing both teams as having a slightly heroic edit to the audience[Tanner & Josh (evil)- Justin & Diana (good) and get their plans foiled].
-Jazmine & Danielle not only crossing the border early but running past the HoO board THREE times :lol:
-More Cindy & Rick gossiping about the EP <3
-Cindy & Rick giving out a confessional about naming their Giraffe at the Detour then Rick saying they named their sofa Oscar the Couch :lol:

IDK, it was just really so weird that the editors would leave out fun stuff like that in favour of spending THIRTY minutes on a Roadblock all about heights that was linear in nature and didn't do much other than give us gorgeous Victoria Falls =/

I should watch those secret scenes. :lol: However, it doesn't work on my geographic location. :(

But, I am here to say that those scenes would fit really well on show! They don't have to be all in the secret scenes. I'm not sure if TAR will be allowed to always have the show for 90 minutes instead of the usual 60 (43 minutes without commercials?), but I'm open to the idea of having them extend the show to 90 minutes if they can and should.

If they can't, then they better listen to the viewers' opinions on the editing.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Platrium on October 18, 2015, 03:32:54 AM
I still don't get the benefit of using U-turn which is placed right in front of pitstop. Eventhough you're second to last and you can see another team 20 seconds behind you, you can just make a quick run to the mat without wasting your U-turn, especially this early. Even you don't know where the other teams are, it doesn't matter, you already reach the pitstop.

I think this new placement of the U-turn is just for the team who'll be using it for personal reason or just to annoy their rival.

I agree 100%. This U-turn was completely useless and the only way it would be used was for vindictive reasons.

I found another possible way wherein the U-turn can be strategic.

Let's say there are 3 teams fighting for the bottom spots: A, B, and C. Let's say Team A and Team B are allies. Team A knows they're 6th while they also know that Team B is fighting for last, so Team A can U-turn Team C to save Team B.

This will only be useful for teams that are fighting for last, and since teams do not know that they have to keep racing, this can happen.

I wonder what will happen to the W-turn next week. If it goes unused... :groan: , because I wanna see some race drama. :hrt:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: Quốc Nghĩa on October 18, 2015, 06:05:41 AM
I don't get the hate. I think it was a strong episode.   :didimiss:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: NMC on October 18, 2015, 08:31:09 AM
No Belle Book, that is precisely NOT the reason why the editing sucks.

The editing has been slowly falling by the seams beginning TAR25.

On TAR25/26...
-Not all teams are shown reading the clue when they get it
-Not all teams are shown departing the Pit Stop
-Not all teams are shown in airport scramble (they already get on the flight and it sucked)
-Not all teams are told of their placement upon checking in at the Pit Stop.

On 27 so far is is 100% worse because...
-It has all the problems above and more
-The editing is just so sloppy, you never feel like it's a proper Race. We would stay at a task for loads of minutes, then the minute a team gets to the next task, we get a lot of focus there, and all the other teams are just shown as "getting their clue" in the most basic way possible of just flashing their name with the CURRENTLY IN XTH PLACE subtitle.
-There is simply too much focus on the tasks rather than the competition. It is always more fun to see teams chasing after each other getting stuff rather than see them do a task.

And the thing that 100% sucks is that the Secret Scenes (more so this season than 25-26) have all scenes that could have been edited in for an amazing episode. A lot of the Secret Scenes are definitely good and would have helped the show. Full scenes such as teams getting lost, the reveal of a reason that eliminated a team, a team having a meltdown on an otherwise uninspired Detour are all on the Secret Scenes, and it really is mind-boggling that they would choose to omit those amazing scenes and keep terrible ones in.

So yes... TAR needs to step it up with editing. Even if the tasks aren't culturally relevant 100% of the time, the editing would really help! (See 24 Kuala Lumpur, arguably my favorite leg from that atrocity of a season... bad, culturally irrelevant tasks and some of the teams were total garbage but very fun editing and competition made it a good ep)

Speaking of this leg, ALL the Secret Scenes delivered for EVERY single team.

We had:
-The amazing revelation that Danielle is afraid of ketchup <3
-Cindy & Rick somehow failing to put on a poncho as they ran to start the leg :lol:
-Tanner & Josh not only misusing their Express Pass, but staying in a TENT outside of the hotel while EVERYONE got a room
-More fun Kelsey & Joey strategy talk <3
-Some Mona & Beth/Kym & Alli style editing that could have been used to paint Justin as this threat that everyone talks trash about and wants him out (could have DEFINITELY enhanced the story for this leg by showing both teams as having a slightly heroic edit to the audience[Tanner & Josh (evil)- Justin & Diana (good) and get their plans foiled].
-Jazmine & Danielle not only crossing the border early but running past the HoO board THREE times :lol:
-More Cindy & Rick gossiping about the EP <3
-Cindy & Rick giving out a confessional about naming their Giraffe at the Detour then Rick saying they named their sofa Oscar the Couch :lol:

IDK, it was just really so weird that the editors would leave out fun stuff like that in favour of spending THIRTY minutes on a Roadblock all about heights that was linear in nature and didn't do much other than give us gorgeous Victoria Falls =/

^^^ ALL OF THIS!!!
I might just go back and watch UB instead.  :groan:  :lol:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary! Tonight at 8PM!
Post by: BritishTARFan on October 18, 2015, 11:14:03 AM
i just wached the episode & people are saying that the detour was culturally irrelevent. I don't believe that entirely firstly the Croquet, Zimbabwe was a British colony so when it was colonised many rich British people came to Zimbabwe or Southern Rhodesia and left their mark. Also the Co-op detour was a look in to something many locals would make to earn a living and they are very popular among Zimbabwe. It was also my favourite episode i loved it!  :hearts:
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Post by: Shari on October 19, 2015, 02:03:13 PM
I loved the episode.  But I'm a Justin & Diana fan!  I sat on the edge of my seat hoping, cheering, and finally laughing because Team Texas screwed up and used their express pass too early!!  I loved the despair I saw on Team Texas' faces when Justin & Diana finished ahead of them at crouquet!  I cheered when Justin & Diana said they would not U-turn anyone, because I was hoping they wouldn't play down to Team Texas' level!!  I think Team Texas is a strong team, but they need to run the race and not worry about the other teams...That will be their downfall!
Go Green Team!!!

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Post by: WinTar on October 19, 2015, 04:02:27 PM
Croquet was boring af
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: Jobby on October 20, 2015, 11:14:06 AM
Finally watching the episode...

"In the history of TAR, if you U-TURN a team behinds you, it never works out"...
Justin, have you watched TAR 18? -_- Kent and Vyxsin's U-TURN on Jaime and Cara?

It sucks that such a magical moment of flying over Niagara Falls gets destroyed by the U-TURN drama.

And Tanner and Josh. Skipping such an amazing Roadblock? Omg, when teams get obsessed with something they make really stupid decisions huh?
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: Jobby on October 20, 2015, 11:25:55 AM
OMG DENISE'S FACE WHEN SHE WAS SPITTED ON. SOMEONE MAKE A MOVING GIF OUT OF IT PLEASE.

OMG jazmine and danielle being unclear with instructions and getting screwed by taxi drivers too.

i'm halfway into this episode and i just want it to end. so boring tbh
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: Jobby on October 20, 2015, 11:32:08 AM
"I'm not going to be cocky, I'm truly confident" - Justin

cocky
ˈkɒki
adjective
conceited or confident in a bold or cheeky way.
"we were young, brash, cocky—we knew everything"
synonyms:   arrogant, conceited, overconfident, overweening, cocksure, smug, haughty, supercilious, disdainful, lofty, patronizing, proud, vain, vainglorious, self-important, swollen-headed, egotistical, presumptuous, lordly, pompous, blustering, boastful, brash, self-assertive, opinionated, bold, forward, insolent; More

(http://i.imgur.com/RLn8QrJ.png)

Sure.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: stekay on October 20, 2015, 11:48:08 AM
*shivers intensify*
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: Jobby on October 20, 2015, 11:49:22 AM
Okay Justin and Diana donating everything that they have and upholding the U-TURN pact makes this a little better.

But which idiot planned for the U-TURN right before the pit-stop seriously.

............................okay episode ended. I got confused by the edit, leg planning and what goes on.

And getting Tanner and Josh to decide giving the EP right there at the pit-stop... it seems like they don't even know? Was it made clear to them?
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Post by: Belle Book on October 20, 2015, 12:28:34 PM
And Tanner and Josh. Skipping such an amazing Roadblock? Omg, when teams get obsessed with something they make really stupid decisions huh?

Tell me about it!  They were so obsessed that they burned their Express Pass too soon!
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: serendipity on October 20, 2015, 02:17:38 PM
I understand why others don't like this leg because it's out of everyone's usual expectation, but I disagree with the hate.

To me, this leg really stands out after the first 3 generic legs. True, I also don't like the focus of rivals between Texas and Green, but the misuse of EP and unexpected HoO and KOR twist really delivered! At least it makes Texas feel frustrated all the episode. To be honest, I'm not interested if this leg is like a normal double U-Turn leg design, which would be like all teams gang up to out Green which is not fun to watch at all, at least how it teaches teams a lesson - don't be so sure about how the game will be played and expect the unexpected!

And I don't agree this leg is boring, at least the RB setting is fascinating and we can see many teams enjoying the scenic aspect, way better than first Leg 2 and 3 where they don't care where they go at all.

And after 4 legs, I still don't get the hate by Texas on Green. It sounds so silly and out of no reason, Justin can be loud like Mirna, but clearly he's not against Texas and not cocky like Art/JJ, I just think Texas took it too personally when Green beat them in Leg 2 tango RB.. The injury caused due to fighting for 2nd place is also unnecessary.
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Post by: Marionete on October 20, 2015, 02:31:12 PM
The injury caused due to fighting for 2nd place is also unnecessary.
At first I was majorly annoyed by that, too, and facepalmed all over the place, but they explained in an interview they thought it might have been for 1st place.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: Jobby on October 20, 2015, 08:29:30 PM
To me, I think it's the battle between the two strongest team and I need time to come to terms with it.

Some part of Justin doing the alliance talking and such didn't show the worry/fear that there's a chance he might get U-TURN. I'm sure he's afraid it might affect them, and that's why he's constantly talking about it.

Not to talk about Tanner and Josh, VERY SMART PEOPLE, directing all the hate to Justin/Diana so that people forget that these two are a threat as well -_-

I agree that the Roadblock is indeed fascinating and FINALLY, teams are talking about how amazing the race is etc... but omg, it being overshadowed by the entire U-TURN drama is what annoys me.

I am okay with the mid-leg HoO because it changes things up and since this leg is a KOR, it doesn't really affect the last place team and made it unfair for them to catch up. But putting a HoO plus a U-TURN, on a leg that doesn't eliminate a team... omg, too much unexpectancy and I think I need to come to terms with it too. It ensures that teams don't expect they know what's happening.. But I wish it's the other way round (no offence to Justin and Diana), but I think it would have been good edit/drama that Justin kept on talking about how he knows the race.. then all these actually happened to their team instead. LOL :funny: (Of course he wouldn't.. since any TAR fan would know that it's better to use the EP for a task later on in the leg...)
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Post by: dryedmangoez on October 21, 2015, 12:19:59 AM
I didn't get the other teams' utter shock at Tanner & Josh using the Express Pass when they did.  Like, it wouldn't have been a fail if there hadn't been an equalizer.  Otherwise, they could have very well been able to U-Turn Justin & Diana even if they wouldn't have been eliminated.  But the show showing every team gasping in horror about the EP was really odd.

OMG DENISE'S FACE WHEN SHE WAS SPITTED ON. SOMEONE MAKE A MOVING GIF OUT OF IT PLEASE
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/285800767da3258e05c8bf97d804b6a9/tumblr_nwd060LjUz1uabncfo1_500.gif)
 :cheer:
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: TARUSAFan on October 21, 2015, 12:22:20 AM
Finally watching the episode...

"In the history of TAR, if you U-TURN a team behinds you, it never works out"...
Justin, have you watched TAR 18? -_- Kent and Vyxsin's U-TURN on Jaime and Cara?

It sucks that such a magical moment of flying over Niagara Falls gets destroyed by the U-TURN drama.

And Tanner and Josh. Skipping such an amazing Roadblock? Omg, when teams get obsessed with something they make really stupid decisions huh?

I agree Tanner & Josh definitely missed out on a great Roadblock, it was not a smart move. I know that they should have used their Express Pass sometime later in the leg. We viewers don't know what it is like to be in their position. It was their decision and they want to get any means to be ahead of the pack. I still root for them.  :yess: At least they used their Express Pass for "strategy" rather than not using it using it like Jessica & John in Season 22.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: Keepcopz on October 22, 2015, 01:24:12 PM
After watching the ep, it wasn't that bad. But maybe because I have lessen my expectation A LOT after reading this thread. The greeting was nice, the RB was so cool and the Wood Detour is pretty good. It's only the golf or whatever it is Detour that was just stupidly easy and super IMBALANCED. The fact that the U-Turn is put behind this wasn't helping either.

I also hate the fact that they implicitly force teams to give money to charity at the Pit Stop? Like, what? How about they handle it like the one in Season 19 while teams earn money from the actual task before give it to the orphanage? Or like the one in Season 24 where teams make a toy from RB before giving to the kids? Force them to give their personal money is just stupid and awkward. :res:

HoH during the middle is okay for me since it's KOR. But 10 minutes different time for departure? Really? How about 15 minutes apart for each 2 teams or something? Because it made the flight and the RB super pointless.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 22, 2015, 01:51:20 PM
Teams have NO personal money. They only have the money given for each leg or what they saved from the previous leg.. So they were required to turn all that over, but they get $65 for this leg.

Remember the Leg one $$ for the orphanage in Season 19 that all the teams screwed up on? That mistake is what got Ethan Z out first...
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: Keepcopz on October 22, 2015, 10:09:58 PM
Okay, then maybe I missed the part where Phil said all teams have to turn all the money to the charity then it faired. I thought team can decide whether teams can give money to the charity or not. And if some teams just want to save their money for future leg and decide to not give it or just give 1$ or something. I'm pretty sure the casual fans will go like 'This teams is so cruel!' while all they do is just being strategic.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: Slowhatch on October 22, 2015, 11:15:16 PM
It was a curious bit of editing. You can hear Diana say "...make a donation," but they edited out the first part of her voice-over reading, which you can see on the card: It's customary to make a donation when you visit...  I'm sure they all donated; who wants to go on national tv and say "Sorry kid, no school clothes for you."
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: stekay on October 23, 2015, 09:27:19 AM
I.will.watch.this.
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: georgiapeach on October 23, 2015, 01:06:28 PM
Don't miss it, it is a good one!

Thanks Slowhatch!
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: claude_24hrs on October 23, 2015, 05:54:56 PM
When Tanner & Josh used the EP to bypass the Roadblock, and according to Josh's twitter, he elected to do the Roadblock.

https://twitter.com/JoshMAhern/status/656149690296070144
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: stekay on October 30, 2015, 03:43:08 PM
Yeah I really need to watch this
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: stekay on November 05, 2015, 09:27:25 AM
Glam episode! Loved Africa
Title: Re: TAR 27 Ep 4 LIVE SHOW Updates & Commentary!
Post by: georgiapeach on November 06, 2015, 01:55:51 PM
Get a move on!! You can catch up in 90 minutes! :funny:
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Post by: stekay on November 06, 2015, 03:56:25 PM
I would but I work friday evenings!