Topic: TAR8 EP3 ~"I Don't Kiss , I Make out "

[Slowhatch]

Do you think they are clues

Maybe not all, but I think it's worth considering. There's a big hole between Talladega and Niagara Falls, filled so far only with Central America
and Sedona. We'll need some out-of-the-box searching, like when you found the bridge in Canada and Chateau found Paul Bunyan's chair >*&. Take the pueblo as an example. It's true, as Pedaler wrote, that saguaro only grows in the Sonoran desert. But who's to say it wasn't just planted somewhere? Here's a saguaro at Judge Roy Bean's old place. When the sightings for this season started rolling in, I thought spoiling TAR8 would be dead simple, but I was wrong.

[puddin]

Slowhatch I searched just  Pueblo , Adobe , desert church , desert mission , mission bells ..you name it I looked for it  >^% . I even searched studios looking for props and roadside attractions . Like Banzai I am sure the flag is Mexico ..but can't find anyplace even close to it ..most roofs are flat and our little adobe has those unique 3 windows/bell whatever archs on the top .

[Chateau d If]

Puddin, I was trying "swap meets" too but i had to do other stuff not TAR related.  Put the location address into Google Maps and check the satellite image.  I thought it may be the way because the place looks like it can be set up for shaded selling stalls.  Just an idea.   And, yes I think that is a Mexican flag too, so it could be along the boarder.

And, Slowhatch, don't forget that we have a definite on Old Faithful too.

[gingerman28]

Hey, guys, don't strain too many brain cells on this one.  State maps are just cutsy, 30's type postcards and represent nothing but all states in ALPHABETICAL ORDER from Nevada to West Virginia. Nothing more.

My big question is around where do Roadblock and Detour tasks take place. 

First, teams leave pitstop in Middleburg VA in early morning between 2 and 3 AM and travel by SUV to Dulles International Airport (30 minutes max even if you can't read a map correctly). They arrive there in the wee hours of the morning (note that departure ramp is deserted, main concorse is deserted) since airport seems empty.  Teams seem to be walking to the far left where United Air and Independence Air counters are located.

Second, two flights seem available for teams to fly from IAD to CHS both leaving at 8:15AM:

             Independence Air flight no. 1530 arrives at 9:55AM

             United Airlines flight no. 5555 arrives at 10:03AM

Third, teams then go somewhere to get clue for DETOUR (perhaps to a historical location like Fort Sumter or even USS Yorktown). DETOUR now seems to be either CLEAN (counting and cleaning 200 pounds of shrimp) or DIRTY (drive a jeep through the mud). Teams doing CLEAN (Linz, Bransen, Schroeder, Paolos) and teams doing DIRTY (Gaghans, Weavers, Aiellos) afterwhich it looks like they may again go somewhere else before getting on the two buses to Huntsville which seems to leave at 8PM and 9PM. Otherwise we have a lot of time to kill between the Detour and bus departure times.

Fourth, teams arrive in Huntsville between midnight and 4AM at the visitors center to pick up SUV's to drive to NASA SPACE CAMP. Now probably a typical TAR Bunch point waiting for center to open.

Firth, now a problem unless producers are giving us another switch in having more than one Detours.  There seem to be a lot of different tasks reported happening here: Centrifuge ride at the Ed Buckbee Building (aviation challenge); a maze of some sort at the Rocket Park; and a computer task at the Space Museum (AOL?).  On the centrifuge we see at least two team members riding up to 3.2G's. But do all four team members have to do it or just two?  I suspect that the two youngest Gaghan kids (12 and 9) would not be allowed on the machine, so perhaps only 2 have to do it.  This would be another bunch point since only one team can do it at a time (eight teams means last team is going to be way behind)

UNLESS THE CENTRIFUGE IS ANOTHER DETOUR TASK and teams have a choice.

Finally, PIT STOP is at the NASA ASTROTREK BUILDING. It was CONFIRMED on CBS Sunday Morning that another eliminated team would be on TES on Wednesday morning. So no NEL nor TBC again this week.

[supsandalee]

Slowhatch I searched just  Pueblo , Adobe , desert church , desert mission , mission bells ..you name it I looked for it  >^% . I even searched studios looking for props and roadside attractions . Like Banzai I am sure the flag is Mexico ..but can't find anyplace even close to it ..most roofs are flat and our little adobe has those unique 3 windows/bell whatever archs on the top .

I've been searching for the mission for a while too. A wore out looking for missions, adobes, churches and last night started looking at movie studio sets and wild west towns. Found out they still do old west reenactments. That seems like a family TAR thing to do. Thought I was close with a couple. The electrical outlet you pointed out made me think it could be a set. I'll keep looking!

[supsandalee]

this map looks like something from the 30 's  }w_{ It looks like someones ugly wallpaper   |( !

Looks like the stickers we used to get at Stucky's to put on the station wagon window.
Ooops, I'm showing my age.  8-)'

[supsandalee]

GMAN:  Since there are no shots of the Godlewskis do you think we could have our first Fast Forward??

[gingerman28]

Did a little checking. Best I can judge is that trip from Charleston SC to Huntsville AL is about 450 miles by interestate. Assuming that buses do not exceed speed limit (65miles per hour) we are looking at a trip of from 7 to 8 hours. If buses leave at 8PM and second bus at 9PM, they would be arriving in Huntsville at about 3 and 4AM.

Also in the pix we have from NASA it looks like all of the teams shown are just mousing along; nobody is racing and the teams seem close together.  So this looks to me like after the teams reach the  matt and are now going to the Marriott Hotel for the 12 hour (or longer) rest stop. Also note that the teams are carrying all their gear including the camping stuff they picked up in New York which means all of the teams had to check their baggage at IAD. Does this mean the teams are going to camp out again somewhere??

[Chateau d If]

GMan the travel time from Charleston to Hunstville is about 11 hours so I was thinking that the first bus leaves around 2 pm.

I corrected for the one hour timezone change.

Opps.  Theres a whole day to play with here!   |(

Timeline
Thurs July 7, Race starts around noon, teams camp in Philadelphia
Fri July 8, Teams leave Philadelphia between 10 and 11 am, Leg 1 ends in Lancaster between 2 and 3 pm.
Sat July 9, Leg 2 starts with teams leaving Lancaster between 8 an 9 am, Leg 2 ends in Middleburg, VA between 1 and 3 pm.
Sun July 10, Leg 3 starts, teams leave between 1 and 2 am, bunched at Dulles, flights to Charleston arrive about 10 am to noon, tasks, 24 hr weather delay (or there was an extended pit stop between Leg 2 and Leg 3).
Mon July 11, buses leave 2 to 6 pm
Tues July 12, Buses arrive in Huntsville 12 to 4 am, teams start tasks at USSRC 1 to 5 am, teams finish tasks Leg 3 ends, 3 to 7 am, 12 hour pit stop. Leg 4 starts 3 to 7 pm, teams drive to Anniston, AL.

[supsandalee]

Did a little checking. Best I can judge is that trip from Charleston SC to Huntsville AL is about 450 miles by interestate. Assuming that buses do not exceed speed limit (65miles per hour) we are looking at a trip of from 7 to 8 hours. If buses leave at 8PM and second bus at 9PM, they would be arriving in Huntsville at about 3 and 4AM.

But we have the first teams arrivng in Huntsville around midnight: "The first teams did not arrive until about midnight and the last team came in around 4-5 a.m. "

What's been bothering me is that "the last team came in around 4-5a.m." describes a single team and not a bus of teams -- and the Godlewski's are still missing! Are there 3 buses and only one team on the last one?

[Slowhatch]

And, Slowhatch, don't forget that we have a definite on Old Faithful too.

I left out NO as well. First the memory goes, then the good looks... ^/^
Can we agree that Dennis was the reason racers were shoved into buses rather than planes or SUVs, or could there be another reason?

[supsandalee]

Chateau,

The weather delay makes a lot of sense. Hurricane Dennis moved straight up Alabama on Sunday, July 10 as a tropical storm and there were tornado warnings all over the area. If they were scheduled to go to Huntsville that day they wouldn't have been allowed.

[supsandalee]

Just found this on Jokers:

The Charleston, SC newpaper today gave a few clue's about the reports earlier this summer that contestants were seen in nearby Mt. Pleasant. The report says that 5 families took the same flight on Independance Air from Washington's Dulles airport to Charleston in July.

It appears that one of the clues is located at Charleston's Battery. There are also reports that families were seen running thru the Charleston Visitor's Bureau, complete with camera crews chasing after them. Those two locations are very close to each other. It doesn't make sense that they would find clues in each place. It also didn't appear that they stopped at the Visitor's Bureau; though I can't think of a reason they would be there other than to get a clue. We'll find out soon enough.

As to the Mt. Pleasant connection: the local source said "no comment" to a question asking if the families were involved with shrimp boats. Mt. Pleasant is the area the shrimp boats go out from. If true, that might make for an interesting "aroma" as they travel on to their next destination!

[puddin]

Good article supsandalee

'Amazing Race' leg at Battery

BY PRENTISS FINDLAY
Of The Post and Courier Staff

 The third leg of the popular reality show "The Amazing Race: Family Edition" is coming to The Battery when the show airs at 9 p.m. Tuesday on local CBS affiliate WCSC-TV, according to a well-placed source.
The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, confirmed that Charleston is featured in the Tuesday episode of the eighth edition of the Emmy Award-winning reality show. Typically, the show's route and details of the competition are a highly guarded secret.

"They were around The Battery, which is where they had to go to find one of their clues," the source said. As to a rumor that "The Amazing Race: Family Edition" involved local shrimp boats, the source said, "No comment."

Others were willing to speak on the record about the show. Independence Air spokesman Rick DeLisi said the airline flew five families participating in the reality show from Washington's Dulles airport to Charleston International Airport in July.

"Five of the eight teams chose to fly with us," DeLisi said. "And ultimately they went to Charleston. We're not sure what they did or how much time they spent in Charleston. We were only privy to the details of what was going to happen at our location."

Perrin Lawson, deputy director of the Charleston Convention and Visitors Bureau, said competing families raced through the CVB during filming of the show in July.

"They literally just ran through the building. It was with the camera crews chasing after them. From what I get from our people, they said it was kind of mayhem and nobody really stopped to ask any questions or anything. They just ran through the building and that was it," Lawson said.


http://www.charleston.net/stories/?newsID=43594&section=artstravel



   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

[gingerman28]

Chateau, if we have a 24 hour weather delay the audience will never know it since the shows are always presented as if there are no delays and that all rest stops are only 12 hours.  But with problems with families it may be that there was a 36 hour pit stop (they were camping out after all) on the Middleburg battlefield. Or they may have had word on Hurricane Dennis and just added another 24 hours to the pit stop. Then they would be arriving at IAD between 1 and 3AM Monday morning, July 11. Then arriving in Charlestown at 10AM to do the DIRTY or CLEAN Detour.  Finish up in time to take the two buses to Huntsville leaving at 3PM and 6PM.

They arrive in Huntsville between midnight and 4AM, Tuesday, July 12.  According to the Huntsville Times story found here:

http://www.al.com/entertainment/huntsville...4210.xml&coll=1

the teams complete their tasks early in the morning in order to have 12 hour pit stop at the Marriott Hotel and then supposedly leave later in the afternoon for Taladega, Alabama via SUV. 

There seems now to be only two tasks. (l) the Centrifuge in the Aviation Challenge building. This could be ROADBLOCK. But if it is a roadblock why are two team members in the capsule together?? and (2) after going through the Rocket Park maze they must locate a computer in the Space Museum and complete some AOL sponsored task which tells them how to get to the pit stop at the Astrotrek Building.

Question. Do you think that the Space Camp would be open between midnight and 5AM so that teams could complete tasks in time to have their 12 hour rest stop and leave before sundown later on Tuesday, July 12??

Another note:  if Hurricane Dennis did actually come through on July10-11 it sure would help to make that jeep contest a real quagmire!!

[Chateau d If]

Look how close the offices of the Visitors Bureau are to the place where the Linzs got off their shrimp boat (Maritime Center)

CACVB Executive Offices
423 King Street
Charleston SC 29403

The Battery is also known as White Point Gardens and is about 3 km away.

Question. Do you think that the Space Camp would be open between midnight and 5AM so that teams could complete tasks in time to have their 12 hour rest stop and leave before sundown later on Tuesday, July 12??

GMan, That's my best guess.



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[puddin]

Great job on the Charleston Maritime Center ! also the  {**} "Independence Air" line tickets ! Love the " dirty or clean idea " !

GMAN: Since there are no shots of the Godlewskis do you think we could have our first Fast Forward??

I like this idea but whats bothering me is how do the Godlewski's get to the pitstop ? Would they just bus or fly ? Not one shot of the Godlewski's in the vidcaps ..also I watched CBS sports all day but the only pip promos that I caought were for S11  _-^ .

Also not for nothing why are there 8 SUV's waiting at the Space Camp ? Is there always a spare on hand incase something goes wrong with one of the SUV's ? or is it for producion purposes ?

[rmax]

I was wondering if Leg 3 might be the first non-elimination leg too.  I know in the past that NELs have been combined with FFs, could this be too early for either?  Is there there one more NEL this time (since we have only 10 teams).  Didn't Phil say 7 elimination legs, which would mean how many NELs?  Am I asking too many questions? 

[gingerman28]

Been checking up on Hurricane Dennis.  It made landfall in the Florida Panhandle at 2:25PM on Sunday, July 10. By 4:00AM Monday, July 11, now a tropical depression, it was centered almost directly over Huntsville, AL.  TAR producers must have had advanced notice of the storm but information on where it was headed after landfall may have been sketchy.  If the producers had originally planned to fly from IAD to CHS, on Sunday Morning, July 10 and then on to Huntsville, AL that evening they may have decided to hold things up and added a 24 hours to the pit stop in Middleburg, VA (no problem with hotels since they obviously were camping out again)

This would make the itinerary and time line developed by Chateau to make more sense.

Idea on why no GODLEWSKI SISTERS.  They probably would be on the first Independence Air flight from IAD to CHS; they arrived at Middleburg pitstop third not far behind the Weavers.  Maybe they got to the CCandVB first, received clue to proceed to the Battery where clue for the DETOUR (Dirty or Clean) was located along with THE FAST FORWARD. FF could have something to do with the fact that it was from here that the Rebels first shelled Fort Sumter which began the War Between the States. Then they might have gotten on an earlier bus to Huntsville and when they arrived proceeded directly to the pit stop at the Astrotrak Building.

With a shortened itinerary, the FF may come up in Third Episode.  And in previous TARs, the actual FF has never been shown in advance and the teams who actually do the FF get very little face time in the previews.  So all the hints are there that there will be a FF in this ep.  But there will not be a NEL this EP since it has already been announced that the next family to to be eliminated from TAR will be on TES on Wednesday morning.

[Chateau d If]

I'm not going for it this time!   *

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[never0102]

Been checking up on Hurricane Dennis.  It made landfall in the Florida Panhandle at 2:25PM on Sunday, July 10. By 4:00AM Monday, July 11, now a tropical depression, it was centered almost directly over Huntsville, AL.  TAR producers must have had advanced notice of the storm but information on where it was headed after landfall may have been sketchy.  If the producers had originally planned to fly from IAD to CHS, on Sunday Morning, July 10 and then on to Huntsville, AL that evening they may have decided to hold things up and added a 24 hours to the pit stop in Middleburg, VA (no problem with hotels since they obviously were camping out again)

This would make the itinerary and time line developed by Chateau to make more sense.

Idea on why no GODLEWSKI SISTERS.  They probably would be on the first Independence Air flight from IAD to CHS; they arrived at Middleburg pitstop third not far behind the Weavers.  Maybe they got to the CCandVB first, received clue to proceed to the Battery where clue for the DETOUR (Dirty or Clean) was located along with THE FAST FORWARD. FF could have something to do with the fact that it was from here that the Rebels first shelled Fort Sumter which began the War Between the States. Then they might have gotten on an earlier bus to Huntsville and when they arrived proceeded directly to the pit stop at the Astrotrak Building.

With a shortened itinerary, the FF may come up in Third Episode.  And in previous TARs, the actual FF has never been shown in advance and the teams who actually do the FF get very little face time in the previews.  So all the hints are there that there will be a FF in this ep.  But there will not be a NEL this EP since it has already been announced that the next family to to be eliminated from TAR will be on TES on Wednesday morning.

Sorry to Butt in but ever since the only 2 FF rule has started the first FF has been the Final Seven teams (CC, LB, and RD all got the first FF in the final seven).  And Plus i dont know about AR5 but every time there was a FF they said something about it in the previews i know EVERY TIME aside from the time CC got it, i did not see any commercials and such so i dont know.  Sorry but i am going with no FF.

Maybe they are just not in the previews, there are four teams on the second bus, that means there must also be 4 on the first otherwise there would be three on the second so the girls are on a bus.  Maybe they get eliminated who knows, i think you all overthink to much.

And someone said the "yellow shirt" getting on a bus was one of the sisters, now i cant see the preview i only see the vid caps and that cap is not shown, but i know one of the Bransons (Beth) is wearing a yellow shirt when seh gets out of the van so it might even be her??

[puddin]

I never corrected that ..she is a Bransen sister ,sorry about that .
By the way I like reading your opinions never0102 !!

[rmax]

But there will not be a NEL this EP since it has already been announced that the next family to to be eliminated from TAR will be on TES on Wednesday morning.

Thanks!

[puddin]

[puddin]

I Don't Kiss, I Make Out!" -- Teams are sent on a journey to a mystery location where they must perform a challenge that is out of this world, on the Amazing Race: Family Edition, Tuesday, October 11 (9:00-10:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. Phil Keoghan is the host of the series.

Reality Reel Media
10.09.05

Tensions mount at the airport when families show signs of wear and tear and biting words are exchanged. One racer turns a cumbersome task into playtime, goofing off and annoying her family in the process. After many failed attempts at a task and with no end in sight, elimination seems imminent for one family.