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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #100 on: October 01, 2005, 11:28:56 PM »
Oh i've been bugging my BF for DishNetwork  )< ! I have cable Chateau but it so happens that the lowest channels 2  thru 6 the major networks SUCK  (:;) , cable dude has no explanation for it !!

So they have to fill the tincups with water from the barrel and pour it into something else ?? sounds like something the Gaghans could actually do  :t-up: , then maybe after they fill the cups and whatever they get a flag and have to place it somewhere ?

Still waiting on the CBS press release , so frustrating .

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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #101 on: October 02, 2005, 12:37:07 AM »
I am having trouble getting usable shadow lines.  Everything looks like mid-day.  Both the DC and battlefield shots.

And the Frankenbite for Rollo saying they drive to DC makes me think they go to the battlefield first.

The shot of a team with backpacks leaving through the Rohrer Family Farm trelis is during mid-day.

And the shoe is mid-day.

And what about this:



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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #102 on: October 02, 2005, 01:08:37 AM »
Nice Chateau !! ( and I see you learned the attachments  :blume: )
I just had a thought about the tincups .. what if they have to fill the cups and serve them to the reenactors ? They don't pass go untill the tincups are empty and the task is completed ?


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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #103 on: October 02, 2005, 01:22:51 AM »
Another little thing I noticed was Ma Paolo has on or near her lap the breifcase.  So thismust mean they have to do some driving after completing the Roadblock.  At one point of the preview one of the Paolos is pointing to a place a map of DC and he is one fat finger away from Dulles.  But I don't think they are going there just yet. That could be him pointing at where they are currently (lost) on thier way to Monocacy.



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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #104 on: October 02, 2005, 02:01:10 AM »
Chateau now I see  the briefcase on the mom Paolo's lap!!  |#'

 This is where they are fighting over directions ...
Kid Paolos reaction

noticed the car is stopped next to a truck ?..



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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #105 on: October 02, 2005, 10:11:03 AM »
I think the teams have to solve some kind of riddle to get to the Shoe House.  Because the leg should start between 2 and 3 am and there is a few hours to pass before sunrise:



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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #106 on: October 02, 2005, 11:11:20 AM »
First things first:

On CBS Morning show this morning they had promo for TES announcing that the next family eliminated from TAR would be featured during the week.  I guess this pretty much confirms and confuses that there will be a pit stop and elimination somewhere at the end of this week's program. Where? Washington? Monocacy? Think that it could be in Washington area since we have Phil leaving from Dulles Airport; if the final pitstop were in Monocacy he probably would be leaving from BWI which is nearer.

Second, I lhave pinpointed location of the girl with blond ponytail and white shirt and shorts.  She is standing in front of the Statue of General Ulysiss Grant (just to the right of the picture) a part of Union Square  in front of the Capitol Building (steps and paving stones match picture I have) and she is pointing across the Reflecting Pond to the location of the clue box which we have established in an earlier frame. From the angle and length of her shadow I would place her here in late morning around 10 or 11AM.

Third, the shot of the Linz Family looking at clue is in front of the Jefferson Memorial. Note Tidal Basin behind them.

Fourth, the shot of Bransen dad looks to be along Constitution Avenue just past the Washington Monument and he is headed west toward the Lincoln Monument and the shadows now seem to indicate it is around noontime (sun seems to be directly overhead).
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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #107 on: October 02, 2005, 12:15:20 PM »
That's great work GMan.  That picture was really bugging me.  I'm with you on the timing too.  I think they go from shoe (via a tough time consuming riddle) to Washington to Monocacy.

Can you also detmine the location of this shot?

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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #108 on: October 02, 2005, 12:27:41 PM »
As far as I can determine this is just on the other side of the reflecting pool and the team is running toward the clue box at the top of the frame.

The teams seem to cover the Capitol area (reflecting pool and Grant Monument); along Constitution Avenue to Lincoln Monument; the Korean War Monument (we had spoiler last summer that they spotted one team coming from the Vietnam War monument; and we have the Linz in front of the Jefferson Monument.  That just about covers all of the National Mall area.

The question still remains do they backtrack now to Monocacy, Maryland for the DETOUR and the PIT STOP? Leaving the teams to camp out once again?

The SUV's they are driving seem to give them one advantage - they don't have to carry their backpacks around from one spot to the other.

Hope we get clearer pix of the second part of the DETOUR at Monocacy before Tuesday night.

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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #109 on: October 02, 2005, 01:48:35 PM »
I think the teams have to solve some kind of riddle to get to the Shoe House. Because the leg should start between 2 and 3 am and there is a few hours to pass before sunrise:



I'm late coming into this thread..busy week.  But it seems that everyone has forgotten that the teams each got a DEPARTING time when their tent was complete!!  Wasn't it like 10AM- 11:30 AM??

I think they do the Shoe and Gettsburg (I'll explain why in the next reply) and then have a reststop again before heading to Washington.  Perhaps there is a "time the place opens(a place we don't see) bunching" before or when they head into DC.  That's why the SUN thing doesn't work out.  It is two different days!!

Does this make sense to anyone?


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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #110 on: October 02, 2005, 02:06:35 PM »
I do think you have found the match, Pud; the picture in the nps Monocacy blurb look very similar (Note mowed field pattern and rail fences).  Sorry, I'm no smarty pants, just damn lucky and unbelieving of CBS's clout to get these reenacters back for a second go at Gettysburg on July 9. And look at map - Monocacy is right on the route (Interstate 270) from York and Gettysburg to Washington, DC.I took another look at all the pictures from the Gettysburg site and I can not find anything nearly matching the field we see in our aerial shot. Pud is right there are a heck of a lot more reenacters at Gettysburg each year as it is probably the biggest Civil War Reenactment event of the year.  Someone is just trying to mislead us; if we hear them say that they are at Gettysburg I will lose faith in CBS; that would be just too big of a stretch even for them.


HEY GUYS,
just because Monacacy is on "the schedule" doesn't mean that is where they are!!!  Geeze, CBS wouldn't want to film where other people are attending the event.

July 9th is a Saturday.  CBS probably just had to give a few thousand dollars to their program, and  many of those die hards reenactors would show up.

And just a point about those fences and the quote.  Yep, ithe quote could be dubbed in there, plus, there are tons of  those white pickets fences all over PA

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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #111 on: October 02, 2005, 02:26:03 PM »
some better vidcaps ..nice Job Gman & Chateau .
Mrs. Kutz the camping was at Belmont Plateau, that was the first rest area , the final pitstop was at Rohrer Family Farm on Blue Rock Road in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. No matter they will have to leave in the order they arrived .

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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #112 on: October 02, 2005, 02:34:23 PM »
also Chateau has done an excellent job pinpointing the Moncacy Battlefield
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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #113 on: October 02, 2005, 04:12:13 PM »
fwiw~ Larger vidcaps double click the Thumbnails for a close up

Schroeder dad has a briefcase ??






Rodgers dad / Map









Whats on his lap ?

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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #114 on: October 02, 2005, 09:06:19 PM »
That's one of the Linz boys with the briefcase in front of the Jefferson Memorial not the Lincoln Memorial. The latter has many more steps in front and you can see in another shot that there is a low curving walk in front. So it looks like the teams are going all over the National Mall area so they may drive from one spot to the other.

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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #115 on: October 02, 2005, 09:45:30 PM »
Between watching the Redskins win, the Bosox win, and my man Dale Jarret win (how about them apples, Puddin?) I have been working on a time line.

If the teams arrived at the first pit stop between 3 and 5PM on the 8th, they would be leaving between 3 and 5 AM on the 9th  This is assuming that the normal and traditional 12 hour mandatory rest period is in effect.  It is about a 32 minute drive from the Pit Stop outside Lancaster to the Shoe House in Hallam, PA (that is assuming again that the teams can read a simple map) But we see the teams there in daylight so perhaps we have a typical bunch point waiting for the place to open at 6AM or 7AM. Once they get the clue it is no more than an hour's drive for the 53 miles to Frederick, MD and the Monocacy Battlefield. So they could arrive there by 8 or 9AM. Say it takes two hours to complete the Detour Task then they would be finished by 10 or 11AM. It is another 40 miles to the center of Washington DC but with traffic what it is on Interstate 270 and the infamous Beltway lets say it takes them an hour to make the trip.  This would put them at the Capitol location between 11AM and Noon. This matches the shadows we have for the Washington Roadblock task.

I have gut feeling that the line "Drive yourselves to Washington DC" had been lifted and inserted in scene of teams leaving the Shoe House and is typical CBS misdikrection.  It does not make sense to drive past Monocacy to Washington and then back to Monocacy. And the shadows seem to be mid morning rather than late afternoon.

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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #116 on: October 02, 2005, 10:09:58 PM »
Fantastic Gman , nicely layed out ..I also agree that the Rolly Weaver kid had the " ..Washington DC inserted by the TAR Webmonkeys  .
oh and WHHooHOO for DALE  {**} ..I love the Old Time Drivers  |#'

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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #118 on: October 03, 2005, 01:44:27 PM »
I think you're right Puddin.

And they are on a highway (not freeway) heading out into the country.



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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #119 on: October 03, 2005, 02:33:59 PM »
To me that looks like a folder of some sort not a briefcase.

Just to muddle things up some more:

Look at the map - the direct road from York, PA to Frederick, MD passes right through Gettysburg.  What if they are told to go to Gettysburg but actually are led on to Monocacy without telling the teams that they were actually in a different location? It is just a short jump down the road. Certainly the majority of people in the audience have heard of Gettysburg, but how many out there have ever heard of the Battle of Monocacy which happened a year later? (We here in the Washington area are well aware of the battle since it was the last time the South had a chance to invade Washington DC.) At least in Monocacy there were re-enacters already on hand July 9th. The field covered in the aerial shot does not seem to be in the Gettysburg Battlefield area at all.


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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #120 on: October 03, 2005, 02:54:03 PM »
It's really faint but...

Thanks, Banzai.  No rivit.  Maybe it's just the folds of his black shirt.

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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #122 on: October 03, 2005, 03:50:39 PM »
And Photoshop reveals upon brighness hiking:  no briefcase.



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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #123 on: October 03, 2005, 04:16:23 PM »
Maybe its a portfolio  with maps and such?
Must be convenient that the Racers to have their own SUV's, they don't have to worry about lugging backpacks around ...must be nice .

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Re: TAR8 EP2~"How Do We Know We Aren't Going To Get Shot?"
« Reply #124 on: October 03, 2005, 05:32:22 PM »
From all indications they will, however, have to give up their own private SUV's in South Carolina or before. If they arrive at the Washinton Area pitstop in mid or late afternoon then they would leave early (like 2 or 3AM) to drive down the hated Interstate 95 to South Carolina. And Sunday morning before sunrise is the ONLY repeat ONLY time to drive that route. Probably would arrive in early morning (unless they all get lost again, but how can you get lost if you drive directly down south on I95??) Here they would have to give up their SUV's to take bus to NASA Space Camp in Alabama Where they pick up more SUV's (with built in mircro cameras!)