Topic: Friday 7/29 Live Feeds cont.........

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LOL ..BB telling them what to say ..make it look like your descision
BB: "Maggie your going to say I need 6 panelists & 4 contestants , um guys decide amognst yourselves who wants to do what just play like your making the descision the first time and then Maggie .. :fish: "

OK something is bugging me , I now think the Food Comp was rigged/ given to the HG's . Fish were and out , mainly right before Maggie would ask the question ,at one point she started to read a question then said to BB " should we stop now?"
See I think the HG's already knew what the panelists answer was already and it was staged to make us think they had got lucky with the contestant answers ..it was always 2 for 2 . At one point I think they has scewed up , 3 of them had the wrong answer , we went to fish and all of a sudden it was fixed and it was 2-2 correct answer , so they won food for that day .
Don't know if you understand what I'm saying or don't know if you even care , I'm just sayin  </]

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WHOA!!!! DID I see oranges in that storage room???

And who do you think will get points for the food comp?

I think they all should get the Fanasy Game bonus points for the food comp  =]/  Yep there are oranges and I will try to keep track of who eats the most oranges for the Fantasy bonus ..40 or 50 points right    {l{ .. ?

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besides some normal Janelle (Ivette imitating her memememememe  Iwanna do it , about the safe )bashing and some Kaysar bashing ,complaining that Kaysar ate too much food  |( ..
some HOH talk
Ive: James and Sarah are ****ting their pants because Janelle/Kaysar & Howie are whispering behind there  backs , Sarah has tears in her eyes she was like I feel so lost "...dadada 
Ive: I told her there is nothing I can do to change it but , i think we all know whos going up
Maggie : she said that ? I'm sorry I find her to be extremley weak , I do not think she is a threat
Ive : i know but you really have to take into consideration the threat that Kaysar i s..i'm telling you , and its not to save james because I will put up James too , cause I told james that the thing that really pisses me off is ? I said that if you had got HOH it would have been Maggie & I gone ..he barely could even answer me

Mag: I done second doubt that if James stays in this game he will put up you or I

Ive: hes saying that if he gets put up to put up Kaysar with him , then if I get the veto I will leave it as it is
Magg: Wow..I hope its not a tie

Beau : um hmm

Ive : cause he says that he knows that they will never fight for him

Magg: Kaysar already lost his partner , James hasnt , that is a big threat right there

Ive : i absolutly agree

magg: I want him out more than Kaysar , I want him out ( with authority voice)

Ive : but how I see it is , that James partner is not strong , they would ( wouldnt ) fight for each other like you and Cappy wwere going to , and how i see it even though Kaysar lost a partner hes gained Janlle , who completely does whatever the **** he says ..and Howie , Howie would drop Rachel in a heartbeat , howies not doing any thing for her , he didnt wake her to train her how to roll a ball

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cont..
Ive: Howie doesnt even consider Rachel to the end , his commitment is to Kaysar & Janelle
Magg: right but, James wont fight for us , if it comes to the two of them ..James will fight for the million ..without a doubt but , I dont think he will get rid of Sarah because that is one vote that hes got in this game , always ..no matter she is he always has a vote for him whether Sarah is weak or not

Ive: but it would just be one
Magg: but Kaysar doesnt have a definite
..Ive : oh yes he does
Magg: you put up Kaysar & Howie whats the..?
Ive: Janelle ..
FISH

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more

Ive : i want to do what ever you want to do , I dont want it to come off like I care about James and for some reason I just think , I know you think differently ( to Magg) , I just see that , that damn Kaysar is such a manipulator

Magg: I just dont see it , I dont see him manipulating as much as James does , i think theres a wall between Kaysar and all of us , not only has he never been our friend , he has never been a strategic partner with any of us , he is less of a threat than anyone who has been our  friend or partner

Beau: right he uses personal ways to get to you

Magg:James some how squirmed his way into your heart , which is fine

Magg says that James is more ruthless and to her that is a threat

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 April joins then Sarah

Sarah:FYI , The screen just came up , nominations today , i just thought you guys would want to know

they invite her to join and ask her how she feels

S: obviously not great , i dont know
Ape : if you were HOH this week who would you put up
S: I honestly dont know , i would have felt like I had no choice, I honestly felt last week that i didnt know who i could trust , Kaysar said that Beau had gone around to rally up votes to get james off, thats what Kaysar siad

they said that Kaysar also said that Beau was rallying her name too

S: yeah I thought Beau wants me off, what the hell is going on , then that day Jame got put up I felt like everybody was like shshshs whenever I came around , but now im like
Mag: why didnt James pick you to play POV ?
S: probably because I suck

Sarah goes on to say that she feels like her and James ar the disposable ones , she pleas for James , she does not want to be alone in the house with out him

They ask Sarah who she thinks honestly James would put up if he wins HOH next week if he stays, is he feeling betrayed by Kaysar?

S: well thats the thing , we go to bed and they stay up ,we know they are talking about us , I thought we could trust then last week
 
They find that hard to swallow , why would she have trusted Kaysar and them  in the first place
S: has anyone talked to Kaysar?

Ape: were not even going there

Ive: he wouldnt even be able to sell me a day in this house

[RudyRules]

I don't know Texan? Maybe Rob or someone else can tell us? I'm going to guess and say that if they tie the HOH picks who goes , you know make the choice ?? I really dont know {l{
I'm going to make my bed and will brb for the Food Comp ......... :<(

I agree...HoH decides.
Geee...Kaysar looks totally beaten down after all his work last week, and b/c NONE of his team won HoH.  }}  |(  I feel so sorriieee for that dear man.    I sooo hoped he'd make it to the end.  Now, it's gonna take a real miracle if he makes it.  Maybe he shoulda played UTR... ]][

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They tell her that if James had left they would have taken care of her , like they are taking care of Maggie.

Sarah thinks they (K/J/H/R) want to keep James and let her go .

They ask her what she thinks of Janelle , Sarah says shes smart .

April : If James were HOH next week who do you think he would get rid of ?
Sarah: I dont know , maybe Janelle ? I dont think they will ever get rid of Rachel .

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They are not telling Sarah a thing , they are like uh huh  :roll:

[Texan]

Is sarah really trying to work a deal or just a follower?

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Maggie gives April a sign
April invites Sarah out to the backyard.
When she finally leaves Maggie is glad , Sarah is clueless , a nice girl , she tried to make James look good & Kaysar & Howie look bad . She only came up to save James , he is manipulating her and she doesnt even know it .


brb phone call  , the realone is paused  {l{

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Magg: all she says is we we we so she has sold herself to the other side , she came up her to tell me what James wanted her to say . She makes Jame out to smell like Roses .
Maggie cant get it in her head that Kaysar is more powerfull than James .

So there we have it , not official but it sure sounds 99% to me that Maggie is putting up Kaysar & James . Maggie wants James out more , Kaysar never made her a promise or was on their side , where as James betrayed them and thats what hurts , he cannot be trusted .

( I'm still listening , just making supper  {l{ , I'll jump in if anything good happens  )

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Maggie finally gets her point across , Kaysar cannot infiltrate our group , James is a threat, he has to go first  .
The Deal is either Kaysar or James goes . They don't have time for second chances .
April says worst case scenario , James stays, runs back to them because he is scared . ( idiot)

[Texan]

Should be an interesting POV....if kaysar wins it....wonder who they will put in his place...sarah or Janelle?

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Texan , Crappy's plan was Janelle but , that was before they knew about the twist . We shall see, April is actually trying to convince them to keep Sarah around , of course only if James goes  (%#
These people talk in circles .



April wants to bring Sarah into their group when James leaves , she wants to use her for her vote .
The others disagree, they think she will be revengefull , Maggie knows   ]][ .
Maggie knows to call Rachel & Howie after the Veto ceremony to see what she could get out of them.

[Rob]

I think April is the worst. She always talks in Circles!! And then she lies to keep her other lies alive! She is crazy!!!

Rob

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 {l{ What shes saying , and what Ivette is saying makes me think that perhaps these two have some sort of secret pact with James & Sarah . Especially Ivette, she wants Kaysar out more than James , what about Janelle ? Isnt she the one that Ivette hates more ? I just wonder what we are missing  *(^ or maybe its just me ?
No matter , Maggie is set on James first , and I would have to agree with her for the reasons shes listed above . Keeping James is more dangerous , he is sneaky and as well as a user , ready to jump ship at any time for wherever suits him the best . I wouldn't be surprised at all if in the next few days we see him TRY to cut a deal with Crappys Clan .
They are also stupid to think that Kaysar only looked smart because he had James filling his head with ideas , making it seem like it was Kaysars plan , like he was the smart one ,  not Jame's .
We know that it was Kaysar's plan and they are idiots if they really think Kaysar is dumb .
They do not think Kaysar is a threat because he has noone now that Michael is gone   (%# .

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here we go..


James Ivette chatting in the backyard ,James wants to go upstairs to talk to Maggie.
some of the previous chat that led up to this

Ive: James I wish I could sit here and say that your not going to lose our trust again .. we have a connection but I have a commitment with those people , I will not hurt them

James says that Rachel & Howie threw the HOH  yesterday and Vetos because they dont want to make choices, they know they can sneak by , those two are the most dangerous couple in this house , they have won , and if I'm here next week , and of course Kaysar is gone , then I will nominate them if I win HOH next week.

Ivette : really ? not Janelle ?

James : no , shes not as big a threat as them

Now Ivette suggests that he propose this to Maggie , but warns him that Maggie does not trust him
They snag Sarah along the way



KISS ASSSSSSSSSSS  ((^

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first they head for the bathroom

Ivette explains what they are going to say to Maggie , she warns Sarah that she does not want Maggie to think she is fighting for them , she is afraid of getting excluded out .

Ivette thinks there are bigger battles in the house , Kaysar .

We had fish inbetween , to late BB calls lockdown .

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that is lockdown outside , for  NOM time .

backyard
J: if she does me & Kaysar ..and he can leave on votes , thats good but , if Janelle gets him off the block ? then its Maggies descision
Ive: to be honest , I dont know if I can keep asking her ( Maggie) something then later be responsable , because I turn the corner and I see you talking to Janelle , maybe you should just keep doing what your doing and play both sides
James : Ivette , she asked me if I knew who was going to be Nomed and I said yeah , Kaysar & I , I think ? Everyone on that other side is worried..you know? so

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J: Ivette, I always kept my promises to you , and for some reason I look out for you since day one .
Ive : you know what Sarah said ? she said we have to remember that we are only HOH for 1 week , heh , doesnt she know we know that ?
J: shes getting that from those idiots , I'm really going to have to talk to he
again James repeats that if he gets HOH he is putting Rach/How up

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Maggies outside , its not NOM time just  yet she has 30 seconds to refill her coffee, James is talking to her ..........

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Mag: is there something you want to tell me? you have a second right now

J: I told you last night stratgically what the best idea is, if I get HOH next week im going after Rach/How , they throw all the contests so that they stay UTR , and well thats my word .

Mag: what can you give me that tells me you will keep your word , that makes me know that for sure ?

J: I can give you my word but , well thats all I can tell you , my word

Mag: you know , i know your in  a bad postion , I mean I know that you know that you telling me stuff is all going to be taken with a grain of salt ( go MAGGiE  =]/ )

J: i understand that completley , um I have a new found respect for you after last evening , a different type , but um thats all I can tell you , thats what I talked about to eric and im pretty sure thats what he told you

Mag: now lets say ..your never going to find comfort in being on the block ,

J: one thing im going to say , nominate me & kaysar , get him out in votes ,

Mag: so you want to take yourself off the chopping block again?

J: all I think im concerned about.. 

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cont ...

........is that Janelle gets Kaysar off in that situation , thats why i think the best case scenario  , me /Kay/Janelle , but regardless if i'm on there and he needs my votes

James  goes onto tell her that she should put Kaysar & Janelle up  ((^

Magg:so you are telling me that K&J are a bigger threat than you

J: I think so .

Magg: very interesting

James : I think how/Rach are the biggest threats , they are on both sides

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cont..

Mag: so they know you feel this way?

J: not yet

Mag : they will ?

J: no way , why would i tell them they are the biggest threats , if I got it they will be expecting me to put up you or someone else

M: so your telling me that if you get HOH , regardless , what happens , well if your here , obvioulsy, no matter what ive done , your going to put those 2 up?

J: your working stratagie &  revenge, they go hand in hand

M: yes , im very fortunate

J: so , if i here im giving you my word that it will be R/H , there is no one im scared of more than them

M: its interesting because i beleive you

J: youd know if i was lying to you

M: thats very fascinating

Maggie " what FALSE pretense are you fuctioning under ?"

J: call it a hunch