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S40: Ep 12: "Friendly Fire" (4/29)

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Jobby:

--- Quote from: spiritOFsurvivor on April 30, 2020, 08:43:47 AM ---I'm also fairly disappointed with this season. It's like none of them actually want to play besides Tony! The boot order was extremely saddening for most fans and now we still have ben nick and michele in the game who have floated and flip flopped which ever way they please! I'm not sure about the way the did the immunity challenge either with the tempting coming at what seemed like a very late point in the challenge. The most entertaining parts of the show are usually on edge of extinction so i'm kind of glad that that's in play although I think a final 7 return would work better than 5! This season is really disappointing me so i honestly think the best way to rebound would be bring back the best players to never win: they'd game incredibly hard! I hate watching this because tony and sarah have controlled the game from the beginning and the only person who would be able to dethrone them would be jeremy, but he has to work with them in order to stay alive! So at this point i think our best final 3 would be Sarah, Tony, and Jeremy and i just pray this season picks up the gameplay by ALL players in the next few episodes!

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THIS Too.

The EoE is just so pointless with two entries and there’s just too much narrative to focus on. So Redemption instead. The best people who got back into the game at least fought for it EVERY WEEK.

This season is just trash for me. I don’t care what others say but it’s not even anywhere near top tier. With all the hype about it, just a major disappointment with an expected winner.

fossil-racer:
Honestly, I was really hyped for this season but the producers and CBS really dug their own grave with this one.

Here are the problems:

1. Episodes
For the 40th season, I wish the episodes were 90 minutes or 2 hours. Wasn't there a rumor stating CBS would consider 90-minute episodes? Jeff said in an interview people wouldn't watch more than an hour and that's bull. People have been wanting longer episodes for a while.

A major problem is being able to cram content in an hour-long episode when you have so much going on. The family visit episode is a great example of an episode that needed to be longer. That episode was crammed to the max and I didn't really get the Tyson boot because of it.

2. Edit - It's obvious Tony is winning.
Denise's edit is too inconsistent. Ever since her savage boot on Sandra, she hasn't had much content.
Nick's edit is inconsistent as well.
Jeremy has been on the bottom and he will be gone soon.
Sarah isn't winning after last night. She's gonna ride Tony's coattails or be eliminated soon.
Ben hasn't played the best game and has a somewhat negative edit.
Michele is the player that is attempting to play the game but is overshadowed by Tony's edit, imo.

3. EOE
EOE should replace Ponderosa until players reach Ponderosa. Make it an aftershow exclusive people have to go watch elsewhere. EOE eats up a lot of screentime and it's not even great content sometimes. It's only used to show the players are alive or what advantages/disadvantages are sent to players in the game.

The coconut race wasn't the most original challenge in the world. It was like they were trying to replicate the log challenge (the only plus to EOE)

4. Fire Tokens
I didn't mind the tokens at first but now it's hard to keep up with them. I don't know who has how many and what you can do with them if you don't get an advantage offer or disadvantage from the Edge.

Plus, when Tony was borrowing them, they didn't even show him paying the players back, irc. I think the producers left the viewers thinking that players did get paid back but it was implied. I think Michele tried selling her 50/50 coin but that was subtly shown.

There have been a lot of problems with this season but I'm still trying to enjoy it. We'll see how the rest of the season plays out.

Maanca:
It's true. After the dumpster fire of season 39, I was so excited for this all-winners season. And yet I find myself being less excited which each passing week.

Being winners, you'd expect so much more competitiveness across the board, but it's like no one except Tony is even playing. He's obviously going to win. What the heck happened to this bunch since their first seasons?

And knowing this is the last Survivor we're gonna get for maybe a year makes it sadder.

Bookworm:
Let's clear this up; the players are playing, but the edit just isn't showing it. Between EOE, challenges, and Tribal, there's only about 15 minutes to include camp life and strategy. Editing used to have several, balanced narratives, but now they're inconsistent and we're only seeing one or two lenses at a time.

Jimmer:
Maybe I have an unpopular opinion but I actually have been enjoying this season. I generally appreciate how hard everyone is playing to win and I have been entertained with every episode thus far and look forward to Survivor every week.

I do agree that I think all the twists and advantages and fire tokens make the game incredible confusing and definitely would love to see it a lot of this brought way down in future seasons. Having fewer advantages forces people to use their social skills as opposed to how advantages are played, and I prefer social skill gameplay better.

I do agree that episodes are so jam-packed that they cannot fit everything into the episode, but I think generally the editing does a good job of presenting a different vibe for each episode, which I enjoy. I do agree I think their needs to better season-long narratives, but understand that it might be difficult to 'edit in' if the game is constantly changing.

I generally don't pay a lot of attention to edits or edgics, but I don't remember Tony being incredibly visible in pre-merge and early merge episodes. I thought the episode where he found the idol + had to pay up 6 tokens, and drove the Sophie vote he just stuck out and I thought, "where did he come from?" And that was just last week. I think for the most part all players left have had a fair amount of visibility and had moments where they have shined.

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