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TAR 27 Ratings
« on: September 26, 2015, 09:28:04 PM »
Tied with the 25 premiere =/

"On ABC, the season premiere of Last Man Standing earned a 1.1, down two tenths from the 1.3 last season's premiere earned. The season premiere of Shark Tank earned a 1.6 adults 18-49 rating, down from the 1.9 last year's premiere earned.   20/20 earned a 1.3, way up from last week's 0.7 adults 18-49 rating.

On CBS, The Amazing Race earned a 1.1 adults 18-49 rating, matching last fall's 1.1 adults 18-49 premiere rating. The season premiere of Hawaii Five-0 earned a 1.0, down two tenths from the 1.2 adults 18-49 rating last fall's premiere earned. The season premiere of Blue Bloods earned a 1.3 adults 18-49 rating, up from the 1.2 last fall's premiere earned.

On the CW, Masters of Illusion notched a 0.4 adults 18-49 rating."


Source: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/09/26/tv-ratings-friday-the-amazing-race-flat-with-last-year-shark-tank-hawaii-five-0-slip-a-little/471918/

Not a series low, but it only increased by 250K viewers from the 25 premiere (5.79 mil this year). Here's hoping we keep this average or even hit the average of 6 million up done by 26!

I'm really nervous for TAR and I hope it makes it! ;_;

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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2015, 09:38:14 PM »
If the viewership is down on all of them surely its just because less people are watching tv..


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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2015, 10:15:56 PM »
I don't think these are the final rattings. Let's wait until we get them.

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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2015, 02:45:50 PM »
The broadcast nets are seeing a roughly 20 percent drop in the overnights across the board on all nets and all nights, on average, compared to last year in the fall premieres.

TAR staying even or rising in the overnights is a good sign in that environment, because live streaming is become a larger and larger piece of the viewing audience, in addition to the time-shifted viewing.
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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2015, 04:49:18 PM »
« Last Edit: September 28, 2015, 06:08:54 PM by georgiapeach »


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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2015, 06:40:27 PM »
Yay. :cheer: :cheer:

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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2015, 10:41:41 PM »
TV Rating is really confusing for me, I know that rating is more important than viewers. 1.2 means that 1.2% of total viewers who tune in on TV during that time interval between age 18-49 are watching a particular show. Am I right?

Then, how can Last Man Standing which has more viewers, has lower rating than The Amazing Race?
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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2015, 11:12:07 PM »
The total audience means just that -- everyone who is watching of any age. In the example you are asking about, it means fewer people in the 18-49 demo watched that show live or time delayed on the same day.

Which is why we waiting for live plus three days (which are good) and live plus seven day (if we hear about it; they're usually even better.)
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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2015, 11:20:23 PM »
Ah, I get it!

Thank you so much  :luvya:
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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2015, 11:21:58 PM »
Ah, another stupid question :lol:

How do they calculate or measure the total viewers of a show?
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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2015, 12:16:45 AM »
Ah, another stupid question :lol:

How do they calculate or measure the total viewers of a show?

Live= People watching it on TV Live

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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2015, 12:20:14 AM »
This move also shows how weird CBS is lol.

Here was Madame Secretary's Season One ratings, which took the TAR timeslot last year:

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And this was how TAR24 (the last Sunday season did):

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Even though MS had more viewers overall (because of the audience 50+ watching it tbh idk), it ended rough.
TAR24 (despite the worst ratings it ever had on Sunday) had a higher ratings share, which was much more important.

If MS continues to fail then I hope TAR goes back to Sundays where it belongs.

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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2015, 01:00:58 AM »
Ah, another stupid question :lol:

How do they calculate or measure the total viewers of a show?

Live= People watching it on TV Live

No, I mean the method they use to determine the number. Are they using some kind of survey, or intricate application or something, or sample?
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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2015, 10:48:08 AM »
Theo, Nielsen uses a combination of methods, but it is a large sample selected to reflect the U.S. demographically, and the actual people in the sample are rotated every few years. IIRC it's one third every year. The people meters are used and every person in a household participate.
Nielsen also uses a diary sample in addition to supplement the overall sample for sweeps periods, i.e., a large sample to measure each local market.
There are other ways to measure time shifted viewing, i.e., data from cable and satellite providers and the various streaming services, which come into play for mobile devices smartphones as well as TV, that are used for live plus three (days), seven days or 30 days.
One thing to keep in mind is that the networks no long pay much attention to the overnight (live plus same day) numbers, only the media uses them. The size of the live audience for virtually all shows has dropped tremendously as measured overnight, but that trend is deceptive due to a lot of factors, such as a broader range of choices on cable and streaming services, and the ever increasing growth of time shifted and cord cutting viewing. Except for sports and live coverage of breaking news events, the shrinkage in the live audiences for broadcast shows has been significant and noticeable. So far this TV season the shrinkage has been roughly 15 - 20%, and TAR was one of the few to be even with last year.
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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2015, 08:26:11 PM »
Ah, I think I kinda get it :lol:

Thank you once again for helping me, theschnauzers  :luvya:
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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2015, 08:50:14 PM »
When I use my Kindle to post, its autocorrect function will change what I type after I've moved on and thought I had typed what I meant to type.

I've just fixed the errors but I think you should have been able to gather what I was trying to say. You can look now and it now shows what I was actually trying to say.
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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2015, 09:17:52 AM »
Thanks for explaining TS!

Theo, in case it is not clear, they use a machine attached to your TV/DVR (with permission) to monitor what is watched. And I do have friends who have had it longer than 3 years.
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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2015, 10:13:53 PM »
THE AMAZING RACE (P) added +1.88m viewers (7.70m from 5.82m, +32%), +0.8 in adults 25-54 (2.5 from 1.7, +47%) and +0.7 in adults 18-49 (1.9 from 1.2, +58%).


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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2015, 10:38:30 PM »
Nielsen ratings just seem immensely complex. :umn: Why do the they assume an 18-49 age demographic instead of generally using data of all ages? And how do the mathematicians working on ratings calculate within that range? To me it just sounds like, "You just turned 50! Happy half-centennial and, whoops, your TV is immediately cut off from the ratings count! You have no say for primetime." I need a better understanding.
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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2015, 10:43:17 PM »
It's not that they assume that, it's just the fact that 18-49 is the more valuable age to advertisers, especially in this day and age.

They DO count oldies, but the weight isn't as much.

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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2015, 08:53:35 AM »
1.9 for a plus 3. Not to shabby.

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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #22 on: October 01, 2015, 09:51:20 AM »
1.9 for a plus 3. Not to shabby.

Highest DVR increase since the 26 first Thailand leg! Hoping this means something good  :grins: :grins: :grins:

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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #23 on: October 01, 2015, 03:34:42 PM »
It's not that they assume that, it's just the fact that 18-49 is the more valuable age to advertisers, especially in this day and age.

They DO count oldies, but the weight isn't as much.
Do you know how they calculate this information?
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Re: TAR 27 Ratings
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2015, 04:02:37 PM »
It's not that they assume that, it's just the fact that 18-49 is the more valuable age to advertisers, especially in this day and age.

They DO count oldies, but the weight isn't as much.
Do you know how they calculate this information?

theschennauzers already stated it. Same way.... Different results.