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SuperTux:
I'm already confused.  :groan: :groan:

georgiapeach:
Okay I have this:

--- Quote ---These 7 segments explain the difference of 297 legs (Wikipedia's count) and
304 shows (my count).
--- End quote ---

But how are you then getting back down to 289? ???
You lost me again, I just got the 304.  :iok

georgiapeach:
Bottom Line...NONE of us has come up with 300. :funny:

Neobie:
Sorry, shouldn't have thrown in the 289 to confuse people even further! That's the number of actual episodes aired (two-hour episodes with two legs, like Chiang Mai to Hong Kong to Sydney, count as one episode). But that's irrelevant to the 300!

I personally think they counted all the times teams hit the mat as the end of a leg (that gives us 301, since there was no mat in Eger, Montreal, and Helsinki), but screwed up the counting and ended up with 300...

G.B.:
Wikipedia has had a turbulent history, but through lots of arguing with one another this is what we came up with.

The official website for Season 6, as far as I remember, listed only 12 legs with "Budapest" taking up only one slot. I'm pretty sure this trend continued through to Season 10.

When Season 18 came along, there was a big huge stink as to where the end of Leg 1 was, and an entirely "new system" was dreamed up in the form of "No-rest" legs.

Following this, there was even more arguments on international versions as to whether it was a Double-Length leg or a No-Rest leg. Myself and many others were under the impression that the Sydney PS in Asia 4 and the Kunta Hora PS in Australia 1 were both Double-Length, and were not the end of the leg. However, some more stubborn heads decided they were no-rest instead.

The line is very very thin and vague. I myself prefer to think of Season 18 as introducing a "new" system and so all seasons that came after it, American or not, only use the No-Rest system (with the exception of Latin American finale legs, which are double-length).

In fact, some international versions make things even more confusing. For example, Leg 5 of the first Philippine season had host Derek telling all of the teams that "the leg was not over". However, on the very next episode, he introduces the "next"/"6th" leg. Take a look at the TARP1 page on Wikipedia to see how utterly stupid this is. There's a header with "5+6" at the top of it, because of this skewed idea that the fifth and sixth legs are considered separate, but are "SMOOSHED" together into one big long leg, which is why the leg "[was] not over".

Neobie's explanation of discounting Eger, Lucknow, Montreal and Helsinki as leg ends makes the most sense if we want to consider this leg the 300th, but I shudder at the thought because that's going to involve a whole overthrow of how most of the data I've collected works. Furthermore, I can bet you anything that these arguments will have absolutely NO ground on the Wikipedia pages, only because of a single incredibly hard-headed editor. (Look at the Talk pages for any of the recent American seasons to see the nonsense I'm talking about.)

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