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300...?
georgiapeach:
--- Quote from: Neobie on November 08, 2014, 11:13:46 PM ---
13x11 (Seasons 1-11) + 11x2 (Seasons 12-13) + 12x11 (Seasons 14-24) + 7 (Season 25) = 304
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Where are these numbers coming from??
Using the wiki "legs/shows" the numbers are way different.
So where is your count coming from and why the big discrepancy? Just wondering....
1-5 =13
6-7 =12
8 =11
9-10 =12
11 = 13
12-14 =11
15-24 =12
25 to date =7
albiegato:
--- Quote from: georgiapeach on November 08, 2014, 11:53:17 PM ---
--- Quote from: Neobie on November 08, 2014, 11:13:46 PM ---
13x11 (Seasons 1-11) + 11x2 (Seasons 12-13) + 12x11 (Seasons 14-24) + 7 (Season 25) = 304
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Where are these numbers coming from??
Using the wiki "legs/shows" the numbers are way different.
So where is your count coming from and why the big discrepancy? Just wondering....
1-5 =13
6-7 =12
8 =11
9-10 =12
11 = 13
12-14 =11
15-24 =12
25 to date =7
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Whoever counted the number of legs for the 300th leg special has a skewed counting system that is different from what is generally accepted by the fans.
First we count the number of legs (elimination legs, final 3 legs, standard non-elimination legs, keep on racing legs, double-length legs all count as 1):
01 - 05 : 13 (5 seasons)
06 - 07 : 12 (2 seasons)
08 : 11 (1 season)
09 - 10 : 12 (2 seasons)
11 : 13 (1 season)
12 - 14 : 11 (3 seasons)
15 - 24 : 12 (10 seasons)
25 : 7 (so far)
... and we have 297 legs. Now we have to separate 3 double-length legs to make them count as 2 legs instead of 1 leg each. Here are the possible ones and notes on what happened that leg:
season 6: Eger, Hungary (leg 6) - No faux pit stop
season 7: Lucknow & Jodhpur, India (leg 8 ) - Phil & mat appeared
season 8: Moran, Wyoming (leg 10) - Phil & his mat appeared
Montreal, Canada (leg 11) - No faux pit stop
season 9: Russia & Germany (leg 3) - Phil & his mat appeared
season 10: Finland & Ukraine (leg 9) - No faux pit stop
season 14: Beijing, China (leg 10) - Phil & his mat appeared, Jaime & Cara won prizes (unaired)
Somehow, these 7 double-length legs were divided to make the total count up to 300. But I think whoever had to count which leg is the 300th just did this:
(290 + (290+7))/2 = 293.5
where 290 is the number of legs before season 25
290 + 7 is the number of legs before season 25 if all double-length legs were considered 2 legs
Taking the average of the 2 numbers (290 & 297), you get 293.5, which means you need 7 legs during season 25 to pass 300.
There's also the chance that someone just miscounted :res:, which is especially jarring since the show made a big deal out of it.
Jobby:
I am still with Neobie's count that either the Meet Phil are not counted as one leg, or when teams received their KOR clue, another leg started.
And I won't be surprise if they had it wrong, considering they revealed their route to be 72.000 miles but it was in fact in km... Glaring error lol
albiegato:
Oh yeah... Fun fact! ;)
Using the most-widely accepted system:
the 100th leg is the Family Edition finale
the 200th leg is the 7th leg of season 17 (St. Petersburg II - Michael & Kevin's elimination)
the "300th leg" is going to be the 10th leg of season 25 (Philippines I)
Neobie:
--- Quote from: georgiapeach on November 08, 2014, 11:53:17 PM ---Where are these numbers coming from??
Using the wiki "legs/shows" the numbers are way different.
So where is your count coming from and why the big discrepancy? Just wondering....
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I define "shows" differently from "legs," as legs are (as is evident here) pretty arbitrarily defined. I use the concept of "shows" because it makes more sense from a production standpoint. Each show fills a 60 (and in rare cases 90min) timeslot on TV. Race segments separated by a "keep on racing" are considered two shows, because they are in essence two legs in production's eyes (two Detours, two Roadblocks, two "conclusions," etc). In fact, the first manifestation of the TBC (Berlin > Eger > Budapest) was meant to be two legs/shows, but it was merged only at the last minute.
Wikipedia counts the following as "one leg," while I count them as "two shows":
6 (Berlin > Eger > Budapest)
7 (Makgadikgadi Pans > Lucknow > Jodhpur)
8 (Salt Lake City > Moran > Absarokee)
8 (Absarokee > Montreal > Lewiston)
9 (Brotas > Moscow > Munich)
10 (Antananarivo > Helsinki > Kiev)
14 (Guilin > Beijing > Beijing)
These 7 segments explain the difference of 297 legs (Wikipedia's count) and 304 shows (my count).
Wikipedia decided that double-shows (TBCs, KORs) are to be counted as two legs from Season 18 onwards. That's when Phil stopped saying "this leg of the race is not over" and they started airing the prizes given away. Wikipedia counts the following as "two legs," and I continue to count them as "two shows":
18 (Palm Springs > Sydney > Broken Hill)
18 (Yokosuka > Lijiang > Kunming)
19 (Copenhagen > Brussels > Brussels)
22 (Bora Bora > Windwhistle > Bali)
23 (Lisbon > Svolvaer > Sopot)
By my count:
The 100th show is Show 8.9 (Page > Salt Lake City)
The 200th show is Show 16.11 (Shanghai > Shanghai)
The 300th show is Show 25.3 (Oxford > Shetland)
[Paragraph about "episodes" deleted to reduce confusion!]
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