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dtrain:
--- Quote from: bbjunkey on September 20, 2012, 07:42:10 PM ---When you enter the BB house with 16 or however many players start the game-- and navigate all the detours, twists that are there by both the other hgs and BB and end up in the final two that's says a lot. THe hg's, in this case Dan and Ian, getting to f2 both win in different ways. This game will be disputed for a few weeks on who really won. If it wasn't for Dan constantly stirring the pot, Ian wouldn't even be there to claim the prize in the end. THis is the game of BB-- not Sunday school - every one play nice. Every season since BB started we have villains and those who play nice and fair. Most of the BB winners and final players have carried a little controversial baggage of some sort with them throughout the game. I like the fireworks this series creates. I like that it takes people out of their comfort zone, puts them in a "skinner box" where they try to bump each other off. And every hg has a different method for bumping their opponents off. The one thing I like about this show--- real world rules of conduct don't really apply here. Thats why it's just a game!!
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I respect anyone's opinion of Ian deserving to win... a case could be made for each player. However, I strongly disagree that Dan was a bad player this year. I don't see how ANYONE could argue Dan was a bad player when people are debating whether Ian or Dan should've won. It seriously boggles my mind that people would actually think that Dan played a bad game this year. To me, they're just as bitter as the people that were backstabbed by Dan.
bbjunkey:
--- Quote from: dtrain on September 20, 2012, 08:05:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: bbjunkey on September 20, 2012, 07:42:10 PM ---When you enter the BB house with 16 or however many players start the game-- and navigate all the detours, twists that are there by both the other hgs and BB and end up in the final two that's says a lot. THe hg's, in this case Dan and Ian, getting to f2 both win in different ways. This game will be disputed for a few weeks on who really won. If it wasn't for Dan constantly stirring the pot, Ian wouldn't even be there to claim the prize in the end. THis is the game of BB-- not Sunday school - every one play nice. Every season since BB started we have villains and those who play nice and fair. Most of the BB winners and final players have carried a little controversial baggage of some sort with them throughout the game. I like the fireworks this series creates. I like that it takes people out of their comfort zone, puts them in a "skinner box" where they try to bump each other off. And every hg has a different method for bumping their opponents off. The one thing I like about this show--- real world rules of conduct don't really apply here. Thats why it's just a game!!
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I respect anyone's opinion of Ian deserving to win... a case could be made for each player. However, I strongly disagree that Dan was a bad player this year. I don't see how ANYONE could argue Dan was a bad player when people are debating whether Ian or Dan should've won. It seriously boggles my mind that people would actually think that Dan played a bad game this year.
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dtrain I couldn't agree with you more. There are some rules to playing BB-- can't sing in the house, can't get in a physical confrontation, no sleeping outside of the designated beds, etc. BUT last I checked there was no rule that says you couldn't use whatever means to get to the end. Dan's game took people out of their comfort zone-- that's what BB is about--he mastered the technique and it worked. It got him to the end. No easy feat. If it was== those on the jury wouldn't have been on the jury-- they'd still be in the game. I believe if this season had been all veterans -- Dan would have won hands down. They all got it-- the newbies didn't like the fact these vets entered their game, and no way were they going to reward one. Brit was right-- she said if Dan was next to a bottle of ketchup-- with this jury-- ketchup wins. :lol: :lol: Dan played a great BB game-- not the norm-- but who said anything about normal when it comes to BB and the game!!
GrandmawLily:
--- Quote from: dtrain on September 20, 2012, 08:05:41 PM ---
--- Quote from: bbjunkey on September 20, 2012, 07:42:10 PM ---When you enter the BB house with 16 or however many players start the game-- and navigate all the detours, twists that are there by both the other hgs and BB and end up in the final two that's says a lot. THe hg's, in this case Dan and Ian, getting to f2 both win in different ways. This game will be disputed for a few weeks on who really won. If it wasn't for Dan constantly stirring the pot, Ian wouldn't even be there to claim the prize in the end. THis is the game of BB-- not Sunday school - every one play nice. Every season since BB started we have villains and those who play nice and fair. Most of the BB winners and final players have carried a little controversial baggage of some sort with them throughout the game. I like the fireworks this series creates. I like that it takes people out of their comfort zone, puts them in a "skinner box" where they try to bump each other off. And every hg has a different method for bumping their opponents off. The one thing I like about this show--- real world rules of conduct don't really apply here. Thats why it's just a game!!
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I respect anyone's opinion of Ian deserving to win... a case could be made for each player. However, I strongly disagree that Dan was a bad player this year. I don't see how ANYONE could argue Dan was a bad player when people are debating whether Ian or Dan should've won. It seriously boggles my mind that people would actually think that Dan played a bad game this year. To me, they're just as bitter as the people who were backstabbed by Dan.
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Totally agree, dtrain...
Bottom line is that none of the 'newbies' wanted a coach to win the $500K as they repeatedly stated.
The fact that Dan already had already won the $500K was strike 2.
The jury didn't care about who played the best game...they would have given the win to ANYONE sitting next to Dan.
How come no one mentions that Boogie used the coaches' save on Ian?? He would have been gone early if not for that.
How come no one mentions that Frank wanted to stab Dan in the back within DAYS of forming an alliance with him?? Why is Frank's hypocritical behavior acceptable game play, but Dan's ability to get Frank out first is unacceptable?? Bitter bitch is what Frank is, pure and simple....he got 'got' by the better player and he can cry holier-than-thou all he wants, I'm not buying.
AlbertHodges:
It makes you guys feel better to blame the jurors for Dan's loss, that is your perogative.
Sounds to me you are only making it even clearer why Dan didnt play a great game...it would seem to me that a houseguest that hoped to win would play a game is such a way that didnt leave EVERYONE one of the jurors pissed off.
Those jurors arent bitter or mad because THEY lost, they are bitter and pissed off because of DAN'S gameplay.
Evel Dick knew who to play like Dan did this season but WITHOUT alienating ALL of the jurors.
And EARNING AND FINDING JURY VOTES IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE GAME.
lolol...loves to laugh at people who think the game is SOLELY about drama and lies and backstabbing. Some fans may PREFER all of that, but I think MOST fans recognize that getting to the f2 is only PART of the game.
dtrain:
--- Quote from: AlbertHodges on September 20, 2012, 08:50:23 PM ---It makes you guys feel better to blame the jurors for Dan's loss, that is your perogative.
Sounds to me you are only making it even clearer why Dan didnt play a great game...it would seem to me that a houseguest that hoped to win would play a game is such a way that didnt leave EVERYONE one of the jurors pissed off.
Those jurors arent bitter or mad because THEY lost, they are bitter and pissed off because of DAN'S gameplay.
Evel Dick knew who to play like Dan did this season but WITHOUT alienating ALL of the jurors.
And EARNING AND FINDING JURY VOTES IS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE GAME.
lolol...loves to laugh at people who think the game is SOLELY about drama and lies and backstabbing. Some fans may PREFER all of that, but I think MOST fans recognize that getting to the f2 is only PART of the game.
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Dick didn't have as many odds stacked against him... he didn't have to play ruthless... he was just another HG and hadn't won BB before. Dan had a target on his back since the reset but managed to turn most of the other HGs into his puppets, including Ian at times and still managed to get to F2. That's more than any other BB player can say.
The jurors were mad because of Dan's gameplay, yes... because they were burned so badly by his GOOD gameplay. He either backstabbed people by his own hand, or he brainwashed his alliance(s) (or even enemies) into doing whatever he wanted to do. He almost took out whatever player he wanted to, not because he was HOH, but because he had everyone listening to whatever he said. To me, that's good gameplay.
IMO, Ian's only big move was joining the quack pack and taking Boogie out. Every other move Ian pulled off was because he was listening to Dan or the QP. Since Britney left, Ian almost listened to everything Dan said, including throwing the first part of the final HOH comp.
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