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georgiapeach:
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--- Quote from: georgiapeach on December 21, 2011, 11:31:12 AM ---12-19-11
KIX Osaka DL 278 Delta Air Lines scheduled arr: 9:30 AM ACTUAL ARR: 8:31 AM
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Peach,
It was you who stated that teams were spotted in Honolulu around 9am. That presumably does not mean at Honolulu International Airport; it means on their way downtown. How do teams get through customs at a major airport and probably a minimum of 5 miles in a taxi in 30 minutes total? This does not compute.
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Excuse me? I don't believe I said that.
--- Quote from: georgiapeach on December 20, 2011, 12:15:54 PM ---Getting more info that racers may have been spotted earlier, I think we need to be able to place them there by about 9.
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I think I said MAY have been spotted. Photos began around 9 ish...were those just of helicopters and setup? I don't have exact data, when and if I do I will say so.
What I was trying to say was that a photo on the wires at say 10AM does NOT take into account the security briefings and instructions...so a wire sighting of 10 AM could be a an arrival much closer to 9. Sorry for any confusion.
apskip:
I have completed a MapQuest analysis of the most direct route from Honolulu International Airport to One Waterfront Tower at 425 South St. in downtown Honolulu. Here it is:
15 mins / 7.07 miles
Honolulu International Airport (HNL)
300 Rodgers Blvd # 12, Honolulu, HI 96819
(808) 836-6411 | website
1. Start out going south on Rodgers Blvd. 0.06 mi
2. Make a U-turn onto Rodgers Blvd.
If you reach Aolele St you've gone a little too far 0.2 mi
3. Turn right onto N Nimitz Hwy/HI-92 E. Continue to follow HI-92 E.
HI-92 E is just past N Nimitz Hwy
If you are on N Nimitz Hwy and reach Catlin Dr you've gone a little too far. 5.2 mi
4. Turn left onto South St. South St is 0.1 miles past Channel St
If you reach Keawe St you've gone a little too far 0.07 mi
Chateau d If:
--- Quote from: walkingpneumonia on December 21, 2011, 12:28:12 PM ---
--- Quote from: Chateau d If on December 21, 2011, 12:25:57 PM ---
--- Quote from: walkingpneumonia on December 21, 2011, 12:20:00 PM ---The exit info on the pitstop pic at Osaka Castle says it was taken at 2011-12-18T23:28:17-05:00.
Osaka is GMT +9 so that would make it 09:28:17 local time in Osaka - Sunday December 18.
So Phil would have no trouble making any of these three departures from Osaka on Sunday December 18th:
HNL Honolulu DL 278 Delta Air Lines 20:50 20:39 N7 Landed On-time 333 08:31 - Sun 18-Dec-2011
HNL Honolulu HA 450 Hawaiian Airlines 21:15 21:04 N15 Landed On-time 763 08:33 - Sun 18-Dec-2011
HNL Honolulu JL 78 JAL 21:25 21:24 S30 Landed On-time 767 09:07 - Sun 18-Dec-2011
The teams could have had a better than 24 hour pit stop and taken the same flight numbers on Monday December 19:
HNL Honolulu DL 278 Delta Air Lines 20:50 20:38 N6 Landed On-time 333 08:31 - Mon 19-Dec-2011
HNL Honolulu HA 450 Hawaiian Airlines 21:15 21:16 N15 Landed On-time 763 09:32 - Mon 19-Dec-2011
HNL Honolulu JL 78 JAL 21:25 21:20 S30 Landed On-time 767 09:15 - Mon 19-Dec-2011
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I did a "calibraion" test of one of his shots where there is a clock in it. Based on that the check ins were around 7:20 pm local time.
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Ummm, I think the sun would be down by that time. Sunset at 4:51 PM
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I can't seem to get the exif data on these shots today! I was able to see it yesterday. What I did was to use this shot in the train station to correct the exif offset. I may have used the wrong numbers. If you can still get the exif data see if you can figure out the offset. The clock says 1:05 and it must be PM.
https://plus.google.com/100956205360836295806/posts?banner=pwa
Going at it another way
This shot was taken between 1:20 and 1:40 pm (assumes December 18th).
walkingpneumonia:
The photo from the train station has a time of 2011-12-17T23:11:56-05:00 (note its the day before).
So from the train photo if 2011-12-17T23:11:56-05:00 = 13:05:00
Then from the pit stop photo 2011-12-18T23:28:17-05:00 = 13:22:00
So your time from the shadows is spot on!
apskip:
I asked myself whether normal customs processing times might be avoidable with pre-clearance in Japan. As best as I can determine, the answer is that it cannot. Here are the origination points from which pre-clearance is possible:
Most major Canadian Airports (Toronto-Pearson, Montréal-Trudeau, Ottawa Macdonald-Cartier, Vancouver, Calgary, etc.), Queen Beatrix International Airport in Aruba, Grand Bahama and Lynden Pindling International Airports in the Bahamas, Bermuda International Airport in Bermuda, and Dublin and Shannon International Airports in Ireland.
Japan is not on that list.
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