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TAR 20 Transport
DrRox:
apskip........
Here is your Kochi>Hiroshima itinerary, but there is no date to this schedule. What day do you propose it occuring?
--- Quote from: apskip on May 03, 2012, 05:50:46 PM ---Flying to Hiroshima appears more probable now. I would not do a round-trip on the bullet train from Osaka to Hiroshima and back UNLESS there were bad flight connections into Hiroshima. the one above is OK except for leaving in the evening. I have another here that also leaves in the evening but gets there 4 hours elapsed time quicker than any of the best Cochin to Osaka flights I have found:
COK SIN SQ267 2345 0742+1
SIN ICN SQ16 0932+1 1647+1
ICN HIJ OZ162 1836+1 1958+1
However, due to the evening departures, I believe that the flight combination starting in Cochin will be the one actually used because it departs and arrives in the morning and the one above does neither and earlier one in my prior post in this thread depart in the evening.
I would like to give kudos to jacobsk68 who hypothesized that Singapore would be a connection on the route. That will be true if teams fly this route through Singapore and Seoul to get to Hiroshima.
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Here is your Osaka>Honolulu itinerary.....again there is no date mentioned........
--- Quote from: apskip on May 07, 2012, 01:50:11 PM ---I am going to comment separately on the two major points Dr. Rox has made. First, that the reason teams were on the second flight is that Phil and the WRP staff were on the earliest one. I say that Phil and WRP staff were about 24 hours ahead of the F3 in departing from Osaka. There were these flights:
DL278 2057
HA450 2104
JL78 2124
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So what are the departure dates for these two flight itinerairies? That is if you dont mind posting them?
apskip:
Let me remind you that I have essentially volunteered to do the work normally part of the
The Amazing Race 20 » Timeline & Spoiler Summary.
I previously in this thread carefully tracked the dates through the departure in India, which would have been Dec. 16 (actually Dec. 15 at 2345 for the first flight of the combination to Hiroshima) or Dec. 17 (actually Dec. 16 at 2345). The difference is an extended pit stop in the Kochi area. I believe this happened, so the departure Dec. 16 at 2345 relates to that.
Going forward, arrival would be the evening of Dec. 17 in Hiroshima and arrival Osaka the afternoon of Dec. 17. With an extended pit stop, I see teams as heading for KIX early afternoon Dec. 19. The flights are the evening of Dec. 19 and arrivals in Honolulu the morning of Dec. 19. That's my timeline.
georgiapeach:
The Pitstop time in Osaka was TWO hours. :)
theschnauzers:
I'm in the midst of rewatching the finale from the I Tunes download, and there are quite a few time cues in the first part of the Hiroshima-Osaka leg that help point to the flights taken by the final four teams.
First, we're told about Rachel-Dave's release time in Cochi, 1:51 pm. Since teams in India have to purchase their tickets from a travel agency (this goes back to TAR 1, remember) before they arrive at the airport that should help narrow down when the teams left. It should also provide information as to when Phil and his camera crew left Cochi because of the daylight for Phil's stand ups in Japan (He had none in Hiroshima and his first one was the game show in Osaka). The travel agent for Rachel-Dave quite clearly says that their arrival in Hiroshima would be at 8:10 the next evening, and that it was the fastest flight available.
We don't get any help from the Amazing Red Line on the Bing globe, but we get some clues as to the arrival time based on the fact that teams had to buy tickets to take a shuttle bus to the train station to get to the island, and had to buy tickets at the train station (several edits tell us 10:20 was the next departure, and then a 21:55 (9:55 pm) time on a digital clock in the train station.) Then we also have the time of the last ferry departure that evening and the first departure the next morning; we ought to be able to work backwards from this to see if just one flight fits all of this together. (I personally suspect it does; and it should be possible to get an estimate of the time it takes the shuttle bus to get to the train station.) I'm basing this on what had to be done in other seasons at times to reconstruct timeline elements, but I think it likely it'll be possible to do it.
(I'm not going to rub it in over the teams flying into Japan at Hiroshima or Osaka...it made sense to me for them to do so this time, once we knew about the Osaka pit stop, since the show has a pattern in recent seasons to pick airline flights that have very few or only one option for the teams, and to manipulate the pit stop releases to force those options while giving production a head start to the next destination. It avoids a lot of bunch in mid-leg and artificial HOO.)
apskip:
--- Quote from: georgiapeach on May 07, 2012, 05:51:43 PM ---The Pitstop time in Osaka was TWO hours. :)
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OK, Peach, I don't often question what you say and this is not one of those times. I do ask that you identify where in the timeline kept up by me in this thread the extra day happens (to replace the one that a 2 hour pitstop frees up). The only way that 2 hour pitstop and departure from Osaka on Dec. 19 in the evening can be reconciled is in Kochi with a much longer extended pitstop so that departure from there is actually 2345 on Dec. 17, arrival in Hiroshima is Dec. 18 around 8pm and the pitstop in Osaka starts late afternoon of Dec. 19. Is that your understanding of what happened?
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