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What do you think about the Fast Forward?
Rogue:
--- Quote from: racer on December 15, 2010, 07:09:40 AM ---Nick & Vicki tried TAR17s although they seemed a little vague on the whole Fast Forward concept. :cmaslol :rulz: )
This is just my opinion. Tell me if you agree or not, but I am a firm believer that there should be 3-4 Fast Forwards per race.
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Brook and Claire also went for that Fast Forward and when they got there Nat and Kat were basically finishing so it would have been no point in trying to compete against them for the Fast Forward, if they still allow that. This is why they arrived to the bridge after Kevin and Michael and Gary and Mallory.
I think there is a bit of strategy in using the Fast Forward if there is only one per game but it's not the same type of strategy as holding out. But holding out until you decide to use yours could be a bad thing also. The strategy in using the only Fast Forward is that if you watch the race, (Nick and Vicki :cmas27) you know that it's going to be something unpleasant. You have to ask yourself what are you willing to do to stay in the lead? What if you get to the location and can't follow through? Now you have to travel to the Roadblock or Detour hoping that there is someone worse off than you. Holding out can be a bad thing because you could not use it and get eliminated that leg or you might never be in first again. It's all about you making what you think the best decision is for you team.
apskip:
--- Quote from: Dånooky on December 15, 2010, 09:17:32 PM ---I agree with the person that posted that there should be several EP hidden and teams may attempt to find or retrieve it it during a Pit Stop or resting point. One user already suggested burying several ones in sand (like the first task in Season 7). Other idea could be, if they're camping in a frozen region, have several clue envelopes (only 2 or 3 with EPs and several TRY AGAINs) inside blocks of ice and have teams breaking them. IMO it would work best during non-racing time and have teams try to get them as soon as they reach the resting point.
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From what I understand about the grueling and sleep-deprived nature of the Amazing Race, having new tasks to do at the pit stops is the LAST thing teams need. They need to Eat, Relax and Mingle like they used to several seasons ago.
Weedy Spyze:
The degradation of the Fast Forward after TAR4 has always been my #1 beef with the show. I understand that it was done to save money, and I don't think it should be on every leg anyway, but it should be on more than one or two legs of the entire race. Like someone else said, before there was strategy involved because the teams could only ever use it once and they had to decide whether it was best to go for it then or save it for later. Around TAR10/TAR11 when the rules were changed so you could use it more than once (like Oswald and Danny did) and especially since 15 when there's only one on the race....there's no point to it. The first team that gets the clue goes for it and that's it. Imo they should either increase the number of FFs to four/five in the race, or just get rid of it altogether.
As far as the Express Pass is concerned...meh. I don't care for it personally, but then again it would probably be better if it was implemented more as well. I don't think every team should get one, though.
Rogue:
--- Quote from: Weedy Spyze on January 01, 2011, 08:51:37 PM ---The degradation of the Fast Forward after TAR4 has always been my #1 beef with the show. I understand that it was done to save money, and I don't think it should be on every leg anyway, but it should be on more than one or two legs of the entire race. Like someone else said, before there was strategy involved because the teams could only ever use it once and they had to decide whether it was best to go for it then or save it for later. Around TAR10/TAR11 when the rules were changed so you could use it more than once (like Oswald and Danny did) and especially since 15 when there's only one on the race....there's no point to it. The first team that gets the clue goes for it and that's it. Imo they should either increase the number of FFs to four/five in the race, or just get rid of it altogether.
As far as the Express Pass is concerned...meh. I don't care for it personally, but then again it would probably be better if it was implemented more as well. I don't think every team should get one, though.
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But it seems as if no matter if there is one Fast Forward on the race, three Fast Forwards on the race, or five Fast Forwards on the race, the team in front is going to go for it anyway. More Fast Forwards really doesn't change anything but giving another team a chance to get a Fast Forward. But at the same time, since there is no cap, a team that got a previous Fast Forward can be first to the clue box on another leg to try for another Fast Forward. But if you decide to not use the Fast Forward hoping you'll be around and get eliminated that leg for whatever reason, where is the strategy in that? No one knows what any leg is going to bring or the previous leg, so I think as long as you're there and in a position to compete for it, you should always go for the Fast Forward.
Also there is nothing that says you can't compete against another team for the Fast Forward, especially depending on the task. If the second team is relatively close behind the first team then they can go hoping that the first team gets lost on the way, can't go through with the Fast Forward, or end the end lose to them.
As I said, I think part of the team strategy has to come down to what they're willing to do to keep a lead. Kat threw her 22 year old practice out of the window so the team could keep their lead. She could have said forget it and her and Nat would have went to the bridge and still placed seeing as how they were in the front of the pack. Brook and Claire got to the bridge only dropping two places and placed fifth. But Nat and Kat said going in they were going to do everything; that's strategy. I wouldn't have shaved my head and depending on my partner, I probably wouldn't have ate that sheep's head. So even if I were in first and I got to the Fast Forward, my teammate and I probably would have been out on that bridge with the rest of them.
kiki:
--- Quote from: Rogue on January 02, 2011, 12:02:32 PM ---But it seems as if no matter if there is one Fast Forward on the race, three Fast Forwards on the race, or five Fast Forwards on the race, the team in front is going to go for it anyway.
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In the first TARs especially on the first few legs of each race the teams that went for the ff were the ones at the back of the pack, having a way to stay in the race. I still remember in TAR 3 the twin male models, Drew and Derek, went for the ff in the 2nd leg and they went all the way to fourth place at the end, otherwise they would have been eliminated.
I agree that even if there are more ff if that ff is towards the end of the race the first team will go for it, but if there is a ff in the first couple legs, then an otherwise doomed team might get a second chance.
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