Topic: RFF TAR 17 pick-em game

[gingerman28]

I believe that we should either

a) give all the people points
or
b) give no points at all.

From the episode, we cannot prove that either they did or did not finish, so personally I think that we should give no points at all since they weren't proven to either finish or not finishing all tasks.

I agree that the answer should be "no".  If Phil had met them on the battlefield and told them they need not finish since all other teams were in, then the answer would be "yes".  This is what has happened in several previous TARs; but in this ep although we do not see them actually finishing the boat drill nor the watermelon gig, we do see them arriving at the finish mat and being told by Phil that they were last.  So if the producers follow previous procedures, Ron and Toni did actually finish the two tasks.

[Dånooky]

For future questions like that one, you should try asking if "we see all teams completing all tasks" instead.

[Hooky]

I believe that we should either

a) give all the people points
or
b) give no points at all.

From the episode, we cannot prove that either they did or did not finish, so personally I think that we should give no points at all since they weren't proven to either finish or not finishing all tasks.

I agree that the answer should be "no".  If Phil had met them on the battlefield and told them they need not finish since all other teams were in, then the answer would be "yes".  This is what has happened in several previous TARs; but in this ep although we do not see them actually finishing the boat drill nor the watermelon gig, we do see them arriving at the finish mat and being told by Phil that they were last.  So if the producers follow previous procedures, Ron and Toni did actually finish the two tasks.

I agree. We don't have any evidence to believe that they didn't complete the task, plus we have evidence that they did complete it, even if that evidence isn't from the episode itself. I say go with what actually happened, not what the editors made it look like.

[kwando1313]

Agreed. We saw them going to the pitstop, and we saw no evidence of them being mercy Philiminated, thus, they must have completed all tasks.

[mswood]

I am going to assume that they did indeed complete all tasks.  But the Race isn't consistent in how they treat this.

Phil doesn't always go and eliminate a team at the point they no longer can complete a task.

Nor does he always mention if a team did quit a task before they get the boot.

It occurred twice in the tenth season (just off the top of my head) with Kellie & Jamie in leg two and Peter & Sarah in Leg 6.  But in Kellie & Jamie's case they openly say (Phil doesn't) that they quit the task and this was at the Mat.  I don't think they ever tell us that Petter & Sarah never performed the detour (they didn't where they normally would have taken out a detour instruction clue, they were given a clue directing them to the Pit Stop, this was stated after the race, they were even directed by crew to that location, they were so bad off).  Those stick out because it happened twice in one season.  

But even still I am counting "No" as the correct answer.

I am assuming based on Ron (I think) riding the horse, that they made it through the water task, and then actually made it through the Watermelon Roadblock.

The other issue is this now makes 7 men performing the roadblock.  Though the options given were 6 men, or All of them.  Though all men didn't perform the RB, every team with a man on it did (and that was my actual intent).  So i am taking all of them as the right answer.

[kwando1313]

OK. Thanks for the clarification!

[mswood]

 

Week 1 Results

 

1.   ovalorange   
170
OK new player or someone in disguise

2.   peach  (so far your right I love this season, your still going to lose )
140

3.   kwando1313
135

4.   north09
135

5.   Caelestor
130

6.   MugCostanza
130

7.   mswood
125

8.   MamaT
125

9.   serendipity
120

10.   PeeT_Pm52
110

11.   Hooky
105

12.   uycocoa
100

13.   Snooky
100

14.   jerseydude
95

15.   Sandra1991
95

16.   Coutzy
95

17.   Zacz
90

18.   gator27
90

19.   NotMe
85

20.   truenorth
80

21.   Cheryl4255
70

22.   walkingpneumonia  (ouch!  More like Dead Man Walking!)
60

So many names I don't recognize.......

Congrats to everyone.  Not a lot to work with that episode.  But questions for next week will be up Tomorrow (late) night. 

[kwando1313]

Bleh, it always starts strong... Then us core people remain... and DOMINATE!!!!

I can't believe I'm doing so well... Already 3rd? Pretty schweet.

[mswood]

Bleh, it always starts strong... Then us core people remain... and DOMINATE!!!!

I can't believe I'm doing so well... Already 3rd? Pretty schweet.

Hell last year only 3 people got over a 100 points if I remember correctly.  So here's to everyone having a better season.

And by "everyone"  I of course mean...Me!

[Mug Costanza]

Wow! First time ever trying one of these games and I finished Leg 1 in 6th! Great game, mswood. This is cool!

[mswood]

Wow! First time ever trying one of these games and I finished Leg 1 in 6th! Great game, mswood. This is cool!

Nice to have you here.  Always great seeing new people.

OK parties over now we are out for blood.  Far warning everyone is fair game for harassment and ridicule.  It's all in good fun (well it's fun for me, that should count).

[ovalorange]

  Wow, I didn't expect to do that good for my first time.

[MamaT]

This is such fun!  Thanks so much mswood for putting all of this together for us!  I originally put my answer for "how many women drove" at 6, but then changed it to 5.  Sadly, I guess I didnt do it right, because my answer stayed with 6.  Had I made that change, I would have tied peach for second!  I'll get you next time, peach!

[Sandra1991]

I didn't do that good, but playing is always fun!

[Hooky]

11th?! Pfft! I can do better than that (I hope).

[mswood]

Ok (2nd week and already a day late....Sigh!) here are the questions for this week.  They should be up in the next 10 minutes or so.


5 Points – Do we hear how much money teams are given for this leg?

Yes
No

10 Points – How much money do teams receive?

Under $50
$50-$79
$80-$100
$101-$150
$151-$200
More then $200
It is never said

15 Points – How much time separates Jill & Thomas and Nat & Kat in leaving the Pit Stop?

0-3 minutes
4-5 minutes
6-8 minutes
9-12 minutes
13-15 minutes
More then 15 minutes

10 Points – Do all teams leave England on the same flight?

Yes
No
Not Shown

10 Points – Do teams arrive in the airport in the same order they get released from the Pit Stop?

Yes
No
Not Shown

5 Points – Which comes first?

Roadblock
Detour

10 Points – Which tasks does Jill & Thomas consider using the Express Pass on

Detour
Roadblock
General Task
Just mentioned in passing not over a specific task
Never mentioned

20 Points – What teams completes the Detour first?

Jill & Thomas
Nat & Kat
Connor & Jonathan
Brook & Claire
Katie & Rachel
Gary  & Mallory
Michael & Kevin
Chad & Stephanie
Andie & Jenna
Nick & Vicki
There is no Detour

20 Points – What team completes the Roadblock first?

Jill & Thomas
Nat & Kat
Connor & Jonathan
Brook & Claire
Katie & Rachel
Gary  & Mallory
Michael & Kevin
Chad & Stephanie
Andie & Jenna
Nick & Vicki
There is no Roadblock


20 Points – Which team loses the most positions while performing the Detour?

Jill & Thomas
Nat & Kat
Connor & Jonathan
Brook & Claire
Katie & Rachel
Gary  & Mallory
Michael & Kevin
Chad & Stephanie
Andie & Jenna
Nick & Vicki
There is no Detour


5 Points – Do any teams get told they have gotten a penalty?

Yes
No

5 Points – Do any of the racers who performed the Roadblock last week, perform the roadblock this week?

Yes
No

10 Points – Which team checks into the Pit Stop in 1st?

Jill & Thomas
Nat & Kat
Connor & Jonathan
Brook & Claire
Katie & Rachel
Gary  & Mallory
Michael & Kevin
Chad & Stephanie
Andie & Jenna
Nick & Vicki
There is no Pit Stop

5 Points – Is that team the first team to find Phil?

Yes
No


10 Points – Which team checks into the Pit Stop in last Place?

Jill & Thomas
Nat & Kat
Connor & Jonathan
Brook & Claire
Katie & Rachel
Gary  & Mallory
Michael & Kevin
Chad & Stephanie
Andie & Jenna
Nick & Vicki
There is no Pit Stop
The last team to check into the Pit Stop isn’t the team eliminated?

5 Points – Is the last team to arrive at the Pit Stop the team that gets eliminated?

Yes
No
There is No Pit Stop

15 Points – What does the 1st place team win?

A Trip
A Cruise
Electronics
Water Craft
Land Craft
Money
Loaded Credit Card
Nothing
Something Else
There is no 1st Place Team

10 Points – What best describes the Greeter?

A Man
A Woman
A Child
More then one person

15 Points – Which team gains the most positions when they check into the Pit Stop?

Jill & Thomas
Nat & Kat
Connor & Jonathan
Brook & Claire
Katie & Rachel
Gary  & Mallory
Michael & Kevin
Chad & Stephanie
Andie & Jenna
Nick & Vicki
More then one team gains the most positions
No team gains any positions

5 Free Points  - What was your favorite part of last week’s episode?

The cast
The tasks
The locations


Good luck everyone, there are some serious points up for grabs this week.

[Mug Costanza]

15 Points – Which team gains the most positions when they check into the Pit Stop?

Does this question mean "Which teams gains the most positions between the last task of the leg and checking into the Pit Stop?" or "Which teams gains the most positions in relation to their final placing last leg (i.e. checking into the Leg 1 Pit Stop)?"

[mswood]

It's from pit stop to pit stop.

[Mug Costanza]

Okay. That's what I thought. Just making sure!

[mswood]

Not a problem, always feel free to ask.  And good luck.

[kwando1313]

Wow, no one complaining about the questions? What is going on!!!!!!!

[Jobby]

Okay, i was determined not to join this game because it's highly competitive. But i couldn't resist it.

 

Hopefully minimum spoilers will help me get by each week!

[mswood]

Wow, no one complaining about the questions? What is going on!!!!!!!

Hush you!!!!

[mswood]

Okay, i was determined not to join this game because it's highly competitive. But i couldn't resist it.

 

Hopefully minimum spoilers will help me get by each week!

HI Joab.  And really I haven't kept up to much with spoilers this year (been to busy), but I always have to go through them at the start of each week so that I don't just give a huge lead to those who do follow spoilers.

But with my luck it seems that the detectives fill in a lot of blanks by the time Sunday comes.  But I try.

[mswood]

Well I have final answers for all but two questions.  When I get a copy to rewatch I will get those two judged.  They are bolded.

5 Points – Do we hear how much money teams are given for this leg?

Yes, by two teams

10 Points – How much money do teams receive?

$101-$150, 137

15 Points – How much time separates Jill & Thomas and Nat & Kat in leaving the Pit Stop?

4-5 minutes  11:55 to 12:00


10 Points – Do all teams leave England on the same flight?

Yes


10 Points – Do teams arrive in the airport in the same order they get released from the Pit Stop?

Not Shown

5 Points – Which comes first?

Roadblock

10 Points – Which tasks does Jill & Thomas consider using the Express Pass on

Roadblock
General Task
Just mentioned in passing not over a specific task
Never mentioned

On this one I think the lawyers are going to descend upon me.   

20 Points – What teams completes the Detour first?

Brook & Claire

20 Points – What team completes the Roadblock first?

Brook & Claire



20 Points – Which team loses the most positions while performing the Detour?

Jill & Thomas
Nat & Kat
Connor & Jonathan
Brook & Claire
Katie & Rachel
Gary  & Mallory
Michael & Kevin
Chad & Stephanie
Andie & Jenna
Nick & Vicki
There is no Detour

This will be simple enough to judge once I rewatch the episode.

5 Points – Do any teams get told they have gotten a penalty?

No

5 Points – Do any of the racers who performed the Roadblock last week, perform the roadblock this week?

Yes, Chad for example.....

10 Points – Which team checks into the Pit Stop in 1st?

Brook & Claire


5 Points – Is that team the first team to find Phil?

Yes


10 Points – Which team checks into the Pit Stop in last Place?

Andie & Jenna

5 Points – Is the last team to arrive at the Pit Stop the team that gets eliminated?

Yes

15 Points – What does the 1st place team win?

A Trip

10 Points – What best describes the Greeter?

A Woman


15 Points – Which team gains the most positions when they check into the Pit Stop?

More then one team gains the most positions Both Michael & Kevin & Chad & Stephanie gained four spots.


5 Free Points  - What was your favorite part of last week’s episode?

The cast
The tasks
The locations