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Emmy Nominations
docol:
The Amazing Race and Phil win win EVERYTHING..both deserve it.!! TAR is the best reality show ever....! :jam:
Mister RC:
Well, Phil can't win the host one, as that was decided last weekend. But he'll be apart of the overall celebrations when TAR wins tonight!
Well, it's the night the AR fans have been waiting for on an annual basis! The night where the streak and fate of TAR is on the line, natually. I’m pretty much in agreement with some of the people that are critical to the selections of the Emmy finalists. It’s pretty much the same finalists and same eventual winner year in and year out. While one could defend the fact that the selections deserve to be there, it doesn’t take a genius to realize that there were several negative points in some of those shows.
This may sound stupid, but I think TAR needs to lose in order to win in the long run. What I mean is that there hasn’t been a lot of effort put into the show over the past few seasons. However, if TAR keeps winning, no one is going to change anything because they’re doing something right. OTOH, with a loss, it might be a sign for the producers to restart and put a spark back into the show to best bring TAR back to its glory days.
I think what was disappointing (for me) was the fact that Probst went back-to-back-to-back as host in a show that wasn’t even nominated for best reality show (and hasn’t since 2007). I don’t even hate Jeff, but it’s baffling because his show totally deserved to get nominated this year. I don’t think it would’ve won over TAR (easily), but it totally dominated over American Idol, which was a complete nightmare. On the other end, Seacrest totally deserved the host Emmy over Probst, who some have argued that some of his questions/comments (like how the jury got it wrong with Natalie vs. Russell) were very critical. Seacrest is so outgoing and neutral. IMO, in the end, the Emmy team got it reversed between Idol and Survivor. But to a point; can't argue, as mentioned, that Jeff earned it. If you go by personality more than actions, Ryan wins. If it by actions, while Ryan doesn't a lot more than Phil, it pales in comparison to Jeff.
Point is that while TAR deserves the Emmy for best show, it doesn’t for host. Phil is awesome and full of class, but the show isn’t built for him to be able to do too much more than checking in and giving instructions for Route Info and the other tasks. And it sucks because it would change the show more than it’s been changed already! OTOH, as for the show itself, no doubt about it that it should win.
Either way, I won’t be surprised. If TAR wins, I’ll be happy of course, but I won’t be as excited and full of joy like I was during the first few years of its winning streak. OTOH, if it loses, then whatever! Maybe because the show has lost its magic it was destined to happen.
mswood:
--- Quote from: revengefullycreative on August 29, 2010, 12:20:15 PM ---
Well, it's the night the AR fans have been waiting for on an annual basis! The night where the streak and fate of TAR is on the line, natually. I’m pretty much in agreement with some of the people that are critical to the selections of the Emmy finalists. It’s pretty much the same finalists and same eventual winner year in and year out. While one could defend the fact that the selections deserve to be there, it doesn’t take a genius to realize that there were several negative points in some of those shows.
This may sound stupid, but I think TAR needs to lose in order to win in the long run. What I mean is that there hasn’t been a lot of effort put into the show over the past few seasons. However, if TAR keeps winning, no one is going to change anything because they’re doing something right. OTOH, with a loss, it might be a sign for the producers to restart and put a spark back into the show to best bring TAR back to its glory days.
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I have to disagree I think you can look at a few episodes in the last couple seasons as being specifically designed to push TAR over the top.
Look at season 14's opener (Don't let a cheese hit me) and the season 16's World War I themed episode, and those two are some of the best produced episodes the show has ever done. Meaning all the behind the scenes work.
As long as the non fiction/ reality categories let you submit just one episode the Emmy's aren't going to be a major factor in how TAR is produced (besides perhaps making sure once a cycle or once a year a great episode gets produced).
If anything its the viewers which are going to be the deciding factor, and unfortunately for those who feel TAR is losing its touch its ratings are better today then when the show started. Really since moving to Sundays TAR is doing in general better then all but seasons 6 and 7.
In fact I actually expect TAR's ratings to improve this year as well (unless the Under cover Boss final loses its appeal, which I never got in the first place).
As to survivor not getting a nom I was a little surprised but not much. While Survivor is also produced well, it is often seen as a very negative show. And unlike some shows that show negative aspects of humanity to show what we should change about ourselves, it seems to and especially this last year thrive in showcasing the negative aspects of humanity without showing much negativity about it. There are many members of the television community that would never honor a show that does so. In fact, since I started following survivor about season 8 (and managed to catch up with all of them) this last year was the only new seasons that I refused to watch the show live, as I was disgusted by what I had seen and read in recaps of Russell (and others but he seemed the ring leader). I found it vile.
theschnauzers:
The one factor that seems to work in TAR's favor year-after-year is the production logistics; the only other shows that have had similar challenges (The Mole and Road Rules) are no longer on the air and in a way, that just reinforces how much of a challenge TAR is to produce. Couple that with the fact that the show does get nominated in every other technical category available to it, and that underscores the fact that TAR faces its challenges well. While some of the other nominees have live shows, which does offer a technical challenge of sorts, those do take place in a controlled studio environment, which is not the case with TAR.
As to Survivor not getting nominated, they've gotten lazy with the casting and the game. Casting Russell for both seasons this past year (along with a rumored returned in the spring) is a symptom of Survivor's problems -- it's starting to look like an expensive clone of The Road Rules-Real World challenges, where many of the same people keep showing up season after season. If TAR does do a second All Star edition (after seeing how disappointing the first attempt was for many viewers and fans), it'll be tempting the fates that it'll be cursed in the same way. Bertram doesn't want to do any more All Star editions for essentially that very reasons, and I hopw to high heavens that CBS listens to that advice.
georgiapeach:
Keeping fingers and toes all crossed for for TAR! The WWI episode was outstanding visually, hopefully that will do the trick!!
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