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Emmy Nominations
kadilahopper:
I am not surprised TAR lost on both these areas. Phil just does not have the air time that Jeff Probst gets. Phil doesn't have the interaction with the contestants that Jeff has. Phil starts the race. Phil checks in the racers at the pit stop, and that's it. I like Phil, but he has no obvious impact in the show. As far as cinematography goes, Survivor does have the edge BECAUSE it gives MORE AIR TIME to the scenery. Survivor only has to monitor ---2---- tribes. And they are at stationary locations. TAR has to monitor ---11---teams, CONSTANTLY MOVING, therefore the cinematography air time is limited. I am not surprised Survivor and Jeff won in these two categories. I still think TAR will take the BEST REALITY TV/COMPETION. It does deserve that!
theschnauzers:
The fct that TAR isn't yet being filmed in HD is a significant factor; it affects how TAR is treated in the alternative platforms (e.g., Survivor is included in the On Demand options when CBS is a channel option; TAR isn't.
georgiapeach:
Phil Keoghan explains why The Amazing Race shouldn’t withdraw from the Emmys
by Andy Dehnart / August 27, 2010, 1:23 PM
Prime-time Emmy awards will be handed out during the live telecast Sunday night, and if history is any guide, The Amazing Race will win its eighth consecutive Emmy for outstanding reality competition program. Eighth. This is getting so ridiculous that Jeff Probst said the show should withdraw and I get increasingly frustrated that the Emmys are failing to acknowledge other strong competition series while awarding a show that’s been largely treading water for the last few years.
Its host, however, thinks the show deserves its wins. I talked to Phil Keoghan a few weeks ago, and he addressed Probst’s comment last year. “So what about him, if he wins again as the host, do I tell him to [withdraw]?” I’ll have a conversation with him if he wins this year and say, ‘You won three years, you’ve got to pull out,’” Phil said. (Jeff subsequently did win his third Emmy for best host.) “It’s interesting, because some people have said that, and I’m like, ‘What about the Daily Show?’ How come nobody asks Jon [Stewart] about that?” Phil said.
As to withdrawing, he said, “I don’t think we should do that. We strive to make the show as god as we can make it ever season, and I think it’s up to the Academy to determine whether the show deserves to be acknowledged or not. Phil asked what I thought, and I told him among other things that it seems ridiculous that the show has won in years where it has weak seasons, such as the family edition. But Phil pointed out, “They’re judging it based on the episode that’s put forward. … That should be what it is, right? Because it would be impossible to have people judge every single episode, right?”
I’m not so sure, because how can a show be judged on a single episode? It’s like tearing a page or even a chapter out of a book and saying, “Oh, this book sucks” or “This book is great.” That’s nuts.
“Then I think it’d be a different competition. That would be hard to do,” Phil told me, and then discussed the category itself. “I also think it’s very hard to compare a show like American Idol with what we do. I think that’s a great show, by the wya; my daughter watches the show, I think it’s very well-done. I almost think there needs to be another category for shows that are—to me it’s more of a variety show, I don’t know if I would call it a reality show, personally. Because I think it’s a great show; I think it deserves to be nominated, but I think it’s very difficult to compare what they do or what we do with what Survivor does. It’s very different. Or So You Think You Can Dance or Dancing with the Stars—it’s a variety show that happens to have a competition element.”
Phil told me that there are such major differences in the way the show is produced that it should be judged separately. Shows like American Idol, he said, are “in a studio, it’s 69 degrees, and there’s a studio audience. It’s a show with an audience. My daughter watches, she loves it, I watch those shows. But how do you compare that to what we’re doing or what Survivor does? We’re o location, it’s 120 degrees, it’s freezing cold, it’s raining, the train’s cancelled, the flight’s cancelled, there’s political unrest. Unless there’s a strike in Hollywood, they go to a studio.”
“I think all shows have challenges. I do think our show is very difficult to make. You’re adding so many different variables,” Phil continued. When you’re in a studio, the crew turn up on time, you know what the temperature is, you know what the union rules are, you know the parameters you’re working in, and then you make your show. We are in places where we can’t create our own world inside a studio or a set. We are subjected to the rules of the real world. If a guy says, ‘Don’t shoot here,’ we can’t shoot there. If the weather goes crazy, we have to deal with that. It would be like working in a studio where someone turned the air conditioning off and everybody’s drenched with sweat, everybody would walk out and say, we’re not working in here.’”
http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/the_amazing_race_16/2010_Aug_27_phil_keoghan_emmys
mswood:
Peach lets go over to this guys house and kick his ass!!!!!
I've got the pitch forks you bring the torches.
mswood:
The one point the person does bring up (and on this I can actually see his point to a degree) is that unlike Comedy/ Drama only one episode has to get submitted. On the others it must be 6 (they also must produce 6 episode to be meet the qualifications to compete in any of the comedy series awards or Drama series awards.
Reality/ Non fiction shows do not, they can in fact only be one episode long. And if you look at the technically awards you notice that we face many shows (and usually lose to them) that are one episode (say for example a 2hour documentary).
But this has always been the case for the nonfiction categories. And by the same token each of those shows submit what the feel is their best work.
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