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TAR 16: Daniel Pious and Jordan Pious--Brothers

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Mug Costanza:
I saw that as well! Glad to see Dan & Jordan (and TAR as a whole) gettin' some Jeopardy love!  :hearts:

mungobuh:
Thank you, Jordan, for posting here. I was very glad to see you and your brother win two seasons back.

I am fascinated with how CBS has handled the image of the Pious brothers in contrast to the "sainted" Cowboys. What I'm about to say may seem jaded/cynical/negative, but it truly reflects how I feel. The narrative we were force fed in Season 16 was very one-sided. The Cowboys and Pious Brothers were boiled down into such archetypes that it's not hard to see how editors and production were pandering to the lowest common denominator: Cowboys=GOOD; Pious Brothers=EVIL. It's a narrative where the all-American good-ol-boys lose with honor because they didn't cut in line and the winners are young blue-state whippersnappers who didn't have the decency to give up, lie down and let the sainted red-state Jet & Cord trample them to the finish line. HOW DARE THEY WIN?!? THEY GOT FIRST ONLY ONCE!!!1!111!!!

Trust me, this lowest-common-denominator bull**** works. I know it works, because a family member of mine unwittingly bought into this narrative. Over the course of the season, she fell in love with the Cowboys...but never had anything good to say about the Pious brothers. She would give a very bland explanation of her feelings with "they just seem like jerks to me." While watching the finale, she was very pissy when Dan & Jordan cut in line. Things got even worse, naturally, when it was clear that the Pious Brothers were running away with the money. After trying to calmly explain that the Pious Brothers' win had nothing to do with cutting in line and that they were cunning enough to get the plane de-boarding advantage, I didn't get any kind of rational response. In fact, I got some rather irrational,  unrepeatable diatribe which seemed to imply that shifty east coasters don't need all that money... oh, and there was more to it than that, but I would rather not repeat such ugliness. To be fair, my family member did apologize later...but guess who she's rooting for once again this season.

Jet's homophobic slur towards Jordan, if indeed true, is sad and unsurprising. Reveals so much about his lack of sportsmanship.

GeKKou:
So many subjective opinions...

Who said CBS only portray cowboys as good and the brothers as bad?

CBS did show that temper Jet gave to Phil on the mat in ep 7. CBS also showed cowboys' somewhat sneaky behavior (the bus, the pullover, the indifference to lesbians, just name a few)

As for Dan/Jordan, CBS showed plenty good things about them. Their passion, their humor, Dan's support for Jordan.

As far as I can see, CBS is pretty fair regarding all the contestants. All they care is to give the audience some dramatic scenes, they didn't twist the contestants' personalities.

Stop blaming CBS. Stop pointing out that CBS is a master in manipulating viewers' feelings towards contestants and portraying in the way they want the viewers to see.

WE ARE NOT STUPID WE CAN SEE THROUGH MANY THINGS as long as you watch it really carefully and with your heart!
I just love the cowboys even if they are faking to be nice or even if they are really evil. I don't care.
And here is my opinion:Cord's 10 years pro in PBR, he suffered countless injuries,and his career earnings is only 330,000 something, and Dan/Jordan run a race and win 1 million, If I were Cord, and I do care money more than he does, I would say in front of the camera to Dan/Jordan: I don't care if you cheat or not, I don't care if it is against the rule or not, stop explaining because you DID CUT IN LINE.

From the batman,
It's not who you are underneath, it's what you do that defines you. Basically, Jordan's post won't influence any real cowboy or CBS fans. And i'm glad we get rid of those fake ones.

mungobuh:

--- Quote ---CBS did show that temper Jet gave to Phil on the mat in ep 7. CBS also showed cowboys' somewhat sneaky behavior (the bus, the pullover, the indifference to lesbians, just name a few)
--- End quote ---

I'll give you those instances. However, when compared with all of the glowingly positive edits PLUS the incessant, overplayed generic wild-wild-west theme music that seemed to underscore their every move, it's safe to say that the edit was overwhelmingly positive for the Cowboys.


--- Quote ---As far as I can see, CBS is pretty fair regarding all the contestants. All they care is to give the audience some dramatic scenes, they didn't twist the contestants' personalities.
--- End quote ---

I have to disagree. If CBS was truly fair, their editors and story-writers wouldn't have gone for the lazy narrative of "We lost because Dan & Jordan are meanies who cut in line!!! WAAAHHH!!" The reason they lost was because under the circumstances they didn't think outside the box and get to the front of the plane AND failed to grasp a crucial concept at the VR Task. None of their failure to win can be traced back to a line-cutting. But, of course, I'm afraid that will never assuage the über-fans.


--- Quote ---Stop blaming CBS. Stop pointing out that CBS is a master in manipulating viewers' feelings towards contestants and portraying in the way they want the viewers to see.
--- End quote ---


Why do you insist I stop blaming CBS? If you think they don't manipulate viewers' feelings, you're kidding yourself. Want a current blatant example? Survivor Redemption Island...where we're supposed to be sooooooooo excited that powerhouses Rob and Russell have returned.


--- Quote ---And here is my opinion:Cord's 10 years pro in PBR, he suffered countless injuries,and his career earnings is only 330,000 something, and Dan/Jordan run a race and win 1 million, If I were Cord, and I do care money more than he does, I would say in front of the camera to Dan/Jordan: I don't care if you cheat or not, I don't care if it is against the rule or not, stop explaining because you DID CUT IN LINE.
--- End quote ---

This is where you truly lose me. The Amazing Race is not a charity case. Nor is Survivor or Big Brother. None of the teams are more entitled to the money based on life hardships. It's all about who gets to the finish line first. With all due respect, Cord isn't the only guy out there with money problems. Who's to say that Dan and Jordan were super rich before the race, and thus, somehow less deserving? We don't know their financial situation, and it's unfair for people like my relative to assume that east coast = rich. And I don't think Dan and Jordan should feel bad for explaining themselves. I believe Jordan himself has even expressed regret over cutting in line because he is decent enough to realize it cast him in a bad light.

I'm just sick to death of reality shows being turned into huge morality plays. That's all.

Cocoa:
GeKKou, I smell some banning in the next few hours. Yum! :snicker:

If you want to flame, go to Survivor Sucks.

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