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The Mole 5.0 *Ongoing Clue Analysis and Challenge Discussions*
buckhead betty:
Mintobrandybuck I also heard the baby cry!! It made me think Nicole too but I dunno. Mark's wife is expecting their 4th child so it could be for that as well.
Another thing I was thinking about is that s666 clue, 's' is the 19th letter of the alphabet and Mark is 42, now I dont know if his birthday has passed yet but if it has then that would make the year he was born 1966...19(s)66 now for the last 6 it could be his age added up 4+2=6. I dunno. He's the only one in front of a waterfall on his bio pick and for school he went to University of Wisconsin, Whitewater.
But then I get thrown off of Mark b/c I was just going back through an episode and slowing it up during the intro and I saw another DOB Height and POB and occupation thingy (like the Chicago one mentioned in the thread) But this one said Los Angeles and it shows it like 3 diffent times. and the DOB also read 2/5/1970 and would go back to 1971 (to what even looked like 1990 at one point) then completely changed to 1114. What could that possibly have to do with him? Only thing I could come up with with the 1114 is that he already has 3 kids (111) and the 4th is on the way(4). And if I did see 1990, Mark and his wife have been married for 18yrs maybe they were married February 5th 1990 :duno:
Someone please remind me I do have a life lol. :lol:
molenewbie:
Feedback wanted!!
In the first journal entry the passport in the upper left has many entries of travel... the only person that would need to travel that much is someone like Craig...... in his bio on ABC.com reads "Craig has traveled extensively and worked as a humanitarian disaster relief aide worker in Turkey and Thailand."
jskura:
I'm feeling there is way too much pointing to Craig at this point. They are making it too obvious.
Nightstalker:
--- Quote from: Mintobrandybuck on June 28, 2008, 03:18:42 PM ---My bit: Personally, I think the mole is Mark. I know there is not a lot of clues pointing to him, but in my experience the mole is always the one that you would least expect. I mean, what good is being the mole if you purposely give hints as to your identity? He's not very suspicious, but then again neither were Kathryn or Bill.
Now as for the clues, I don't want to trust the Mole scrapbook, because I doubt the producers would REALLY put a clue in there. From what I've deduced, all it has are events that happened in that episode and a little mocking farewell to whoever it is that leaves. Someone pointed out that Paul would make the type of comments that the mole did in the scrapbook, but honestly I think anyone who had that position would be like that.
A lot of recurring things are see are the number 11, the grades, and the 'I lie with my eyes' hint. I don't really think the number 11 can really be a deciding factor in this case, because
a) The journals were chosen randomly. Therefore Craig getting Journal 11 is a coincidence.
b) A lot of the reasoning that has been shown makes sense. . . if you were trying to prove that Craig is the mole. Which leads me to my next point.
I don't know what to think about the grades (or the other clues, for that matter). I assume they have to do with the episode they were given for, so I guess I'll be watching out for anything that may be related to this week's clue. And for the 'Eyes' clue, I don't feel comfortable using it as evidence because there is no proof that its meaning has been shown yet. IN fact, more likely than not, the clue has to do with the entire season as a whole. It's too early to make assumptions.
I think, honestly, that some of these clues are being overthought. I know the hints are subtle, but they wouldn't purposely make them so obscure that you have to do a bunch of math or google search some random congress act. I remember from previous seasons, for example:
Season 1: One clue in particular I remember was after one episode, the host said '____(The guy who got executed) paid the price', and the mole's last name was Price.
Season 2: Early on in season 2 the word 'Admiral' flashed during the opening credits. Bill was an admiral.
So unless they've gone and changed it to make it harder, I doubt the clues will be difficult to figure out; rather, they will be subtle and go unnoticed.
So. . . yeah. That's my bit. Sorry if I've shot dwn your theories in this post, but cutting them down can actually help us get closer. I actually have a lot more to say, but it'll have to wait until next time. I'm getting a little long-winded as it is. Think about it!
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I agree with a lot of what you're saying although I think the journal clues have to be taken into account. They're the most direct clues and I don't see why they'd even create them if they weren't important. My problem with them is that they're too easy. Based on the wording they've already narrowed it down to Clay or Paul which I think sucks. I would like them not to mean much because if they do then they're basically just telling us who the mole is. But I'm definitely sticking with them for now partially because I think we have to and partially because I've suspected Clay since day one.
You're totally right that people overthink things. The clues are much more simple than a lot of people remember. Usually clues for the mole in the U.S. can all be deciphered by looking at contestants bios on the official website, finding double meanings in wording, freeze framing the TV and maybe a little math.
People do get in the trap of deciding that the mole is someone and then trying to make all the clues point to that person. They're so dead set on a certain person that they over complicate the clues just so an answer leads to their suspect that they don't just take the clue at face value and let it point naturally to the real suspect.
If this was the UK or AU I'd be more inclined to believe wacky theories since some of their clues for the mole have been downright ridiculous like noticing the mole tapping their fingers in morse code or running words that the mole spoke together so they sort of sound like a James Bond reference. o.0
To paraphase an old saying. If you can hear a horse and smell a horse then don't assume it's a zebra. Sometimes the simpliest answer is the right one.
twinkletoes:
--- Quote ---You're totally right that people overthink things. The clues are much more simple than a lot of people remember. Usually clues for the mole in the U.S. can all be deciphered by looking at contestants bios on the official website, finding double meanings in wording, freeze framing the TV and maybe a little math.
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But it is so much fun to "pretend" we are super sleuths!!
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