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The Mole 5.0 *Ongoing Clue Analysis and Challenge Discussions*
jojonj:
Ok, not sure if this has been brought up...I still believe the mole is Clay and I am going to stand firm unless he gets executed of course..LOL...but with the piggy's went to market thing...did anybody take notice what the "pigs" are made of...CLAY and they show the picture of all the little pigs...any thoughts on that?
Crash_hust:
I think we all read into everything way to much HAHAHa.
I still wish i could make sense of the clue cards.... they seem to be the missing link. I'm still pretty convinced its paul. and if it isn't paul... i think he'll win. Craig is still up there tho... and i think EVERYONE agrees he is a prime suspect.
THe little piggy challenge is the one that has me tied up. Mainly because they BOTH could have sabatoged it. Paul trying to catch the piggies (and breaking the one they had) and Craig suggesting to put Bobby in the wheelbarrow, also that group didnt get ANY pigs, and Craig also suggested to take another groups wheelbarrow so they could get more.... that could have worked out well if someone "overheated" and turned it over.
:groan: what to think what to think.
Nightstalker:
--- Quote from: Rabbit on June 28, 2008, 01:42:12 AM ---i don't think the mole is insinuating craig or Alex are stupid and would slip up. Here's how i read it..
IF the Mole had a journal entry this week, it would mean the Mole still had his/her journal to write in. Since the only ones who have their journals intact are Craig and Alex, a journal entry appearing would HAVE to mean the mole was one of them.
The entry was poorly written. it should have been something more like:
"I bet you thought I'd write in my
journal this week, proving I’m Craig or Alex, didn't you?
Ha! I'm not that stupid.
Don't miss me too much." (hinting that he/she will be back with a journal entry next week as they all get journals again)
--- End quote ---
Oh geez. I can't believe I didn't think of that. I feel so stupid now. That makes perfect sense. Great call.
I have another question while I'm thinking about it. I understand the 11 clue from the first week but I think people are jumping on it so much. Everyone seems to be looking for 11 anywhere and everywhere. I'm not saying it's not a clue but it seems like people are focusing so much on it. They want Craig to be The Mole so anything they can turn into 11 they will just to become more confident in Craig. Self-fulfilling prophecy, ya know?
Nightstalker:
--- Quote from: jojonj on June 28, 2008, 10:32:01 AM ---Ok, not sure if this has been brought up...I still believe the mole is Clay and I am going to stand firm unless he gets executed of course..LOL...but with the piggy's went to market thing...did anybody take notice what the "pigs" are made of...CLAY and they show the picture of all the little pigs...any thoughts on that?
--- End quote ---
I'm with you at this point. I'm backing Clay as the mole 100%. I think your reasoning is kind of silly and arbitrary but I totally agree with the sentiment. My only other top suspect for a while was Victoria and now that she's gone it just has to be Clay in my mind.
Mintobrandybuck:
Hey, everyone! Just read through all of this, and I've got to say I'm impressed by the deductive reasoning going on here.
A little about me: I take pride in my innate ability to read people, which is why I love shows like these that keep you guessing. I've successfully guessed the mole in Seasons 1 and 2 (I didn't watch 3 or 4 >_>), and I'm pretty confident I can in this season, too. So. . . I'm here to help you all find the truth and cut out everything else! ;)
My bit: Personally, I think the mole is Mark. I know there is not a lot of clues pointing to him, but in my experience the mole is always the one that you would least expect. I mean, what good is being the mole if you purposely give hints as to your identity? He's not very suspicious, but then again neither were Kathryn or Bill.
Now as for the clues, I don't want to trust the Mole scrapbook, because I doubt the producers would REALLY put a clue in there. From what I've deduced, all it has are events that happened in that episode and a little mocking farewell to whoever it is that leaves. Someone pointed out that Paul would make the type of comments that the mole did in the scrapbook, but honestly I think anyone who had that position would be like that.
A lot of recurring things are see are the number 11, the grades, and the 'I lie with my eyes' hint. I don't really think the number 11 can really be a deciding factor in this case, because
a) The journals were chosen randomly. Therefore Craig getting Journal 11 is a coincidence.
b) A lot of the reasoning that has been shown makes sense. . . if you were trying to prove that Craig is the mole. Which leads me to my next point.
I don't know what to think about the grades (or the other clues, for that matter). I assume they have to do with the episode they were given for, so I guess I'll be watching out for anything that may be related to this week's clue. And for the 'Eyes' clue, I don't feel comfortable using it as evidence because there is no proof that its meaning has been shown yet. IN fact, more likely than not, the clue has to do with the entire season as a whole. It's too early to make assumptions.
I think, honestly, that some of these clues are being overthought. I know the hints are subtle, but they wouldn't purposely make them so obscure that you have to do a bunch of math or google search some random congress act. I remember from previous seasons, for example:
Season 1: One clue in particular I remember was after one episode, the host said '____(The guy who got executed) paid the price', and the mole's last name was Price.
Season 2: Early on in season 2 the word 'Admiral' flashed during the opening credits. Bill was an admiral.
So unless they've gone and changed it to make it harder, I doubt the clues will be difficult to figure out; rather, they will be subtle and go unnoticed.
So. . . yeah. That's my bit. Sorry if I've shot dwn your theories in this post, but cutting them down can actually help us get closer. I actually have a lot more to say, but it'll have to wait until next time. I'm getting a little long-winded as it is. Think about it!
Oh, before I forget! My parents and sister wouldn't leave this alone from the last episode: Near the end of the episode (I believe it was at the dinner before the execution; all I remember was that tension was high), when they were panning between everyone at the table, there was a baby's cry when it showed Mark (. . . or was it Nicole? >_>). Now the three of them are hellbent on proving the mole is Nicole because she's and OBGYN. (Personally, I think it was just a sound effect because the atmosphere was tense. Who knows?)
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