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The Amazing Race 13 *Spoilers Only!* (spoiler summary page 1)
apskip:
CHATEAU, you answer the questions you want to and leave it to me to select those I want to answer. If you can't undersstand the relevance of what I do, then tough luck.
Chateau d If:
Well, you asked the question :waves:
--- Quote ---Why would teams wait until mid-afternoon to start flying north?
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apskip:
--- Quote from: nikita on May 20, 2008, 04:34:14 AM ---
--- Quote from: Chateau d If on May 19, 2008, 04:42:46 PM ---Yes, they can arrive on May 4th. Here is how:
Fly Thai Airways International 990 leaving Auckland on May 3rd at 1:15 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 9:00 pm
Fly Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am
OR , for an even later departure (ie it gives more time for the Auckland leg):
Fly Emirates 433 leaving Auckland on May 3rd at 4:55 pm and arriving in Brisbane at 6:35 pm
Fly Thai Airways International 992 leaving Brisbane on May 3rd at 11:59 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 5:59 am
Fly Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am
These flights give them time to land and get to the Wat by 11:30 am (first known sighting).
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I was on PG903 flight on May 4 and it was 10 minutes late. I did not notice any teams. I did see a camera man loitering at Passport Control in Siem Reap Airport...
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Let's work backwards here. In order to be seen at Angkor Wat late morning of Sunday May 4, then PG905 BKK REP 1100 1220 arrives too late. And Nikita assures us that no teams were on PG903 BKK REP 0800 0900. The only other possibilities to arrive that morning is SQ5026 SIN REP 1025 1135 (clearly too late). Arrivals on QV512 from Vientiane at 0925, VN809 from HoChiMinh City at 0945, and MU745 from NNG (Nanning China) at 1030 all have no possibility of morning connections in from Singapore through those places and the same would be true from BKK in addition to the fact that it makes no sense to travel other than the short direct route BKK REP.
Add all of that up and my conlcusion is that the teams that were sighted by the photographer had to be in Siem Rep the evening of May 3. There is no way to get there in time on May 4 if we believe Nikita's eyewitness report (which I obviously do but others apparently do not). In combination with previous information, this means that nobody leaving Auckland after midnight turning from May 2 to May 3 would get to Siem Reap in time.
Back that up to Auckland and here's what you get:
May 2 AKL SIN SQ282 2355 0645+1/May 3 SIN BKK SQ970 0845 1010, then any of these flight on BangkokAirways BKK REP:
PG905 1100 1220 or PG913 1510 1430 PG907 1740 1900 or PG909 1820 1940
or
May 2 AKL HKG NZ39 2330 0645+1/May 3 HKG BKK CX713 0855 1035, then the same flights shown above except not PG905.
That's it. End of story. Teams have to depart Auckland on Friday night May 2 if they are to be at Ankgor Wat in the late morning of Sunday May 4. The only possible alternative, going by road overnight the roughly 300 miles east from Bangkok to Siem Reap, is not something that previous Amazing Races have allowed.
michael:
--- Quote ---That's it. End of story. Teams have to depart Auckland on Friday night May 2
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according to you anyways
apskip:
Michael, can I ask what sources in New Zealand are you providing to RFF? I thought so, so you had best read and learn.
NEW INFORMATION FROM MY BROTHER-IN-LAW CONCERNING MAY 2
"I definitely know Phil Keoghan was at the airport with a senior management staff member and possibly an assistant of Phil's in attendance, plus two officers from our division. They had a photo op which appeared in our in-house staff mag a couple of days ago.
I did not see, but was assured by others on the relieved shift, that the AR teams were in the city and due to fly out that night. As I was not further involved with that side of things - My duties that night involved communications and boarding announcing, I did not see, nor did I hear anything further. As I had no reason to disbelieve my colleagues, I assumed the info was valid. However, there is the possibility assumptions where made..... so now I will have to investigate further."
So further insights may be anticipated, but it may be a few days. One thing is pretty clear, as in his previous report. That is the departure of the AR13 teams from Auckland on the evening of May 2.
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