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Chateau d If:

--- Quote ---I do know if he observed
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Are you missing a 'not' ?

nikita:

--- Quote from: Chateau d If on May 19, 2008, 04:42:46 PM ---Yes, they can arrive on May 4th.  Here is how: 

Fly Thai Airways International  990 leaving Auckland  on May 3rd at 1:15 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 9:00 pm
Fly  Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am

OR , for an even later departure (ie it gives more time for the Auckland leg):

Fly Emirates 433 leaving Auckland on May 3rd at 4:55 pm and arriving in Brisbane at 6:35 pm
Fly  Thai Airways International  992 leaving Brisbane on May 3rd at 11:59 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 5:59 am
Fly  Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am

These flights give them time to land and get to the Wat by 11:30 am (first known sighting).


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I was on PG903 flight on May 4 and it was 10 minutes late. I did not notice any teams. I did see a camera man loitering at Passport Control in Siem Reap Airport... 

georgiapeach:
Thanks so much nikita! Every bit of info helps!

But now that we know TAR was in Auckland, we need to take another look at this post about Tauranga from mez:


--- Quote from: mez on May 06, 2008, 03:21:22 PM ---Hi, this is completely unconfirmed and comes to me third hand but my mother was listening to a talk show on the radio yesterday here in NZ and there was a woman from Tauranga on who said that a reality show had been through there-well, the Tauranga-Mount Maunganui area (in the North Island, not far from Auckland). I asked my mother if the woman had said when and she said no but she got the impression listening that it was in the last month.

I know this is very unreliable so please treat it with a grain of salt!!


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apskip:

--- Quote from: Chateau d If on May 19, 2008, 04:42:46 PM ---Yes, they can arrive on May 4th.  Here is how: 

Fly Thai Airways International  990 leaving Auckland  on May 3rd at 1:15 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 9:00 pm
Fly  Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am

OR , for an even later departure (ie it gives more time for the Auckland leg):

Fly Emirates 433 leaving Auckland on May 3rd at 4:55 pm and arriving in Brisbane at 6:35 pm
Fly  Thai Airways International  992 leaving Brisbane on May 3rd at 11:59 pm and arriving in Bangkok at 5:59 am
Fly  Bangkok Airway 903 leaving Bangkok on May 4th at 8:00 am and arriving in Siam Reap at 9:00 am

These flights give them time to land and get to the Wat by 11:30 am (first known sighting).


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There are many other possibilities than these that should be considered:

1. If WRP wanted to find a different route on Friday night, May 2 to separate Phil from the teams and parellel the nonstop flight from AKL to SIN and then connecting to get to BKK by mid-morning, in addition to SQ282/SQ970 2355 0645 AKL SIN there is
AKL HKG NZ39 2330 0645 connecting in Hong Kong with HKG BKK CX713 0855 1035.
May 4 BKK REP  PG903 0800 0900 is the connection to Siem Reap for incoming SQ970. Unless CX713 arrives early, connection to   PG905 1100 1220 will not be possible and those teams would have to take   PG913 0310 0430

2. Why would teams wait until mid-afternoon to start flying north? I can't think of a good reason since they have this combination(note that we are now Saturday May 3 so this causes negatives for normal flight schedules):
AKL SYD LAN801 0525 0705  or  QF40 0550 0730  or  NZ101 0700 0830  
QF81 SYD ADL 0930 1115 continuing on the same flight
QF81 ADL SIN 1220 1830
TG410 SIN BKK 2040 2200
May 4   PG903 BKK REP 0800 0900

3. The early afternoon option of nonstop AKL BKK TG419 is a good one if teams waited that long. Almost equally good is
AKL SYD QF790 1325 1450
SYD BKK QF301 1635 2255
May 4  PG903 BKK REP 0800 0900

Those are the logical possibilities. The reports of a team trailing behind out of New Zealand could mean that some teams went Friday night and at least one on Saturday morning.



























Chateau d If:

--- Quote ---Why would teams wait until mid-afternoon to start flying north? I can't think of a good reason since they have this combination

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Apskip, I think you have lost the thread.  Peach asked this:


--- Quote ---Is there a way teams can actually arrive in Cambodia on 5/4 and still make it to our sites in time? If so, we would have plenty of time with all day the 2nd and the 3rd in NZ and then 5/4 as part travel day. Otherwise they are down to 24-36 hours max in NZ which seems tight.
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She is asking for flights so that teams would have plenty of time with all day the 2nd and the 3rd in NZ.  You don't have to think of a good reason why  teams would wait until mid-afternoon to start flying north.  Good reason is already given:  "for an even later departure (ie it gives more time for the Auckland leg)"

The objective is to maximize the time for the leg so that we can begin fitting in likely tasks and locations in New Zealand.

The flights I posted achieve that while the ones you show would have teams spending the time in transit.  This imposes an artificial constraint on the amount of time we have to work with.  The consequence of having an incorrectly applied constraint is that it causes valid options of tasks and locations to be dismissed.  I hope you can see the importance of this.

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