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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #125 on: April 19, 2008, 04:21:43 PM »
Ryan has been a disgusting prick since he won the first HOH (the day Allison left). I wish BB would have waited a week to do that :barf

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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #126 on: April 19, 2008, 04:29:13 PM »
i think adam is doing wat he has to do to ensure he isnt put on the block but remember he anticipated this move by ryan. He told sheila he will tell ryan "I am going to toss this bitch out the house" to which sheila laughed and said go ahead while they were shackled. he told sheila post veto he knows ryan and sharon have a deal and ryans power trip only solidifies that. adam knows he has to swear on everything in order toget wat he wants in the game. its been done b4 and im sure his family will understand. he told sheila during her HOH he  had a dream that his father told him that ryan is a "shady prick." and ever since then i knew his loyalty was to sheila. he is avoiding her now in order to not be caught together wioth her like ryan and sharon have been caught by adam so many times. adam i tihkn is too smart for ryan and i dont think he took kindly to ryan's threats. ryan should have been more laid back about this and i think now its too late. adam probably will be told scenarios as Allison Grodner put it by the DRand he will know sharon has to go to further his game.

side note.: i think in his mind if he goes back on his word and ryan wins final HOH and he thinks sheila will win the money over him then he will still take adam. he shouldnt have said that to adam bc i tihkn adam realized that ryan will still take him no matter wat threats he throws at thim


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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #127 on: April 19, 2008, 04:34:46 PM »
They why swear on your mom, I think thats sad if he doesn't plan on doing it. I know no game is worth swearing on my mom (or even my fathers grave) even if there is 500,000 involved. And hes a bible reader so why would he do that if he didn't mean it. No amount of $ can buy yourself out of a guilty conscious if something did happen. JMO.

 I know Mama, But these people swear on the bible, kids, moms all the time in every season! I just never buy into it. he might have pulled a "johnny fairplay grandma move" with his mom- saying"mom no matter what you hear or see from me  DON'T BELIEVE IT!"

 And Ryan, i mean KING S!@T,  last night rubbing one out(presumably) after looking at his girls photo! Does he really think that 's something she would be  happy about?? oh wait! The DID have sex in the BR before she got evicted.

 This show was/is hard not watch once you are into the season. And i am ashamed that i have! :pull
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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #128 on: April 19, 2008, 04:37:29 PM »
JAY! you beat me to it! DITTO!DITTO! DITTO!
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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #129 on: April 19, 2008, 04:39:26 PM »
Well you know, if he has loyalty to Sheila then he should've voted Natalie out. What if Ryan would have changed his mind last minutea? It wouldn't have went tie. Remember this game is about 'lying' and therefore Ryan could have lied that he voted for Natalie to leave. I think hes done with Sheila, personally. After the things she said/did to him while being shackled.


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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #130 on: April 19, 2008, 04:40:27 PM »
Well you know, if he has loyalty to Sheila then he should've voted Natalie out. What if Ryan would have changed his mind last minutea? It wouldn't have went tie. Remember this game is about 'lying' and therefore Ryan could have lied that he voted for Natalie to leave. I think hes done with Sheila, personally. After the things she said/did to him while being shackled.
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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #131 on: April 19, 2008, 04:41:53 PM »
Im ok with her leaving, like i've said. Im not a fan of people swearing on their parents lives and then doing something else.

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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #132 on: April 19, 2008, 04:43:28 PM »
remember that while they were shackled and alone they were nice to each other and then while other ppl were arounf they were "fake" mean to each other which they have done the whole season

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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #133 on: April 19, 2008, 04:45:08 PM »
Then why did she wake him up cause he was sleeping and she wasn't? We saw that on the feeds. She was pissed at him and he was a little mad cause its not like it was his fault that she wasn't sleeping (he wasn't snoring).

And Sheila has put ALOT of pressure on Adam.

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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #134 on: April 19, 2008, 04:50:07 PM »
Well you know, if he has loyalty to Sheila then he should've voted Natalie out. What if Ryan would have changed his mind last minutea? It wouldn't have went tie. Remember this game is about 'lying' and therefore Ryan could have lied that he voted for Natalie to leave. I think hes done with Sheila, personally. After the things she said/did to him while being shackled.
are u a sharon fan MAMA? lol

I think Adam voted for Natalie just to take the blood off his hands.  He knew the plan was to boot Natalie and he was SURE that a split vote would still get rid of Natalie because of how she threatened Sheila with the block.
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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #135 on: April 19, 2008, 04:52:11 PM »
But what if Ryan had changed his mind (Ryan was the one I was unsure about last minute, because he thought Natalie was loyal to the boys).

And Natalie knows it was him that kept him.

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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #136 on: April 19, 2008, 05:22:33 PM »
Well you know, if he has loyalty to Sheila then he should've voted Natalie out. What if Ryan would have changed his mind last minutea? It wouldn't have went tie. Remember this game is about 'lying' and therefore Ryan could have lied that he voted for Natalie to leave. I think hes done with Sheila, personally. After the things she said/did to him while being shackled.
are u a sharon fan MAMA? lol

I think Adam voted for Natalie just to take the blood off his hands.  He knew the plan was to boot Natalie and he was SURE that a split vote would still get rid of Natalie because of how she threatened Sheila with the block.

I think Adam is still voting Sheila out, I just think he was not going to have blood on his hands about Natalie.

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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #137 on: April 19, 2008, 05:28:54 PM »
Let's face it, Adam is not all there, never mind all here. He hates doing the expected. He, Nat and Ryan read the bible but they really don't have a clue what it means. Even Sharon who did have religious instruction told Adam how someone, (Jacob?) opens the page to get a revelation or suggestion to know what to do. That really isn't what a truly religious person would expect. I'm not sure Adam really thinks too deeply about anything. Does it mean as much to Adam as it would to more normal people swearing on their mother's life? ???

He did cry with James, but he still put him up. He was upset about Nat but I don't think he really wanted to keep her. What I hate is that Ryan works him over like a batch of bread dough. He is quite the master at manipulation. He starts out slowly, then escalates the crap he's serving up putting ideas in Adam's head, saying things that aren't true, never were said but he repeats it until sappy Adam believes it. I think something in his brain got jumbled up with his accident. I would like to know if he did the playing with his privates and nose picking, etc. etc. before his wreck.

I don't dislike Adam so much, but I cannot stand Ryan. Good luck with him Jen, he's a prize all right. NOT!
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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #138 on: April 19, 2008, 05:41:29 PM »
I have heard before what Sharon said about Jacob. Apparently your suppose to open the bible to a page and start reading it. Not read from front to back. I dunno, Jacob is religious to apparently.

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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #139 on: April 19, 2008, 05:45:36 PM »
Even though you guys have the live feeds, remember we do not see or hear EVERY conversation or action that takes place in that house. So yeah all this bs talk from the guys just  makes it worse for us readers and posters!!  BB house main goal has always been to torture the HG's and  now the live feeds and BBAD are to torture US!!! :funny:

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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #140 on: April 19, 2008, 05:49:01 PM »
Even though you guys have the live feeds, remember we do not see or hear EVERY conversation or action that takes place in that house. So yeah all this bs talk from the guys just  makes it worse for us readers and posters!!  BB house main goal has always been to torture the HG's and  now the live feeds and BBAD are to torture US!!! :funny:

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Got that right! LOL

I probably didn't explain myself well, what I meant is that Sharon was telling Adam about opening the book to give guidance but I'm not sure Adam understood what it meant and he might think it was more like going to a fortune teller for advice, KWIM?

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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #141 on: April 19, 2008, 05:50:38 PM »
I have heard before what Sharon said about Jacob. Apparently your suppose to open the bible to a page and start reading it. Not read from front to back. I dunno, Jacob is religious to apparently.

Isn't that what they tell you to do with the DICTONARY? open the book to any page, point to a random place, read the word , learn the definition and use it that day in a conversation.

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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #142 on: April 19, 2008, 05:52:17 PM »
YEAH i knew what you meant TL!!
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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #143 on: April 19, 2008, 06:01:16 PM »

Isn't that what they tell you to do with the DICTONARY? open the book to any page, point to a random place, read the word , learn the definition and use it that day in a conversation.

The only thing  heckle and jeckle learned from the Bible and remembered was CONCUBINE!

 :funny: That's what I mean, they don't have a clue what reading the bible can teach you, I don't think it means learning what a concubine is, although Ryan found passages that reinforced his thought that women are here to serve men. Idjit! :gaah:

I was just thinking about Ryan, I do believe that everyone has someone meant for just for them, maybe Jen is the one for Ryan.  :duno:
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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #144 on: April 19, 2008, 06:45:34 PM »
New thread!! :sucks

Good God!  I couldn't get to the new thread by the link -- good old Vista "Done but with errors on the page" in IE -- which is a major problem preventing me from using this computer for the online job I do seasonally; I'm currently (the last month) working with a great guy at tech support, as well as tinkering around, and it's a damned disaster.  I hear that a class action suit by major corporations is in the works regarding MS and Vista -- what was the quote I read in The Week today?  Got to get it for here.

Anyway, I clicked on "quote" and got myself to this page and hopefully will continue on. 

I've missed posting here, enthralled as I am with computer bugs  (:;)  :pull  :lala; especially as I have been aghast, as usual, at the dummies in BBH, and totally enjoying their attacking each other over "who it is who has the pre-existing relationship" from that HOH question that Ryan got right -- the same way Natallie did -- by dumb luck totally unrelated to any real answer.


I have more things to say and need to move on to another post ; before I do, I should say what I meant to:

Finding a passage in a book is called Bibliomancy (pronounced with the major stress on the 'om'  with a short 'o' and minor stress on 'Bib' with a short 'i,' as in "bib."  Chiromancy, another -omancy, is the $100 word for Palmistry.  However, the -omancy related to books involves getting advice, a reading on present conditions, while the -omancy, of Palmistry involves reading the past present and future of an individual by studying the lines on, shapes in, condition of his/her hand -- which would put it more into the realm of -ology, which involves pattern and logic, not random selections.

At any rate, Bibliomancy can be, and is, done with any book.  I think even Sherlock Holmes resorted to finding guideposts in random selections in his library.

The Book, however is the Bible, from the Latin "Biblio," which may well come itself from The Book to mean all books.

Of course, in the BBH, the Bible is The Book, since there are no others there.  At one point weren't they going over a BB Rules Book of some sort, looking for loopholes?

Just thought you'd like to know (and so ends another of my Way More Information Than Anyone Wanted to Know posts)

--Alison

P.S. Myself?  I use R.L.Wing's wonderful translation (with authentic, recognized, traditional Chinese ink paintings, many pre-Ching dynasty as illustrations for each of the 64 hexagrams) of the I Ching.  ("I" pronounced "ee").




I have heard before what Sharon said about Jacob. Apparently your suppose to open the bible to a page and start reading it. Not read from front to back. I dunno, Jacob is religious to apparently.

Isn't that what they tell you to do with the DICTONARY? open the book to any page, point to a random place, read the word , learn the definition and use it that day in a conversation.

The only thing  heckle and jeckle learned from the Bible and remembered was CONCUBINE!


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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #145 on: April 19, 2008, 06:55:36 PM »


I was just thinking about Ryan, I do believe that everyone has someone meant for just for them, maybe Jen is the one for Ryan.  :duno:

I have been aghast, as usual, at the dummies, and totally enjoying their attacking each other over "who it is who has the pre-existing "relationship" from that HOH question that Ryan got right -- the same way Natallie did -- by dumb luck totally unrelated to any real answer.

The penultimate HOH question Wednesday, "Ryan and Jen, Sharon and Justin were in relationships before they entered the BB house.  There is one more pre-existing relationship in the BB house now,  True or False?"

If ever a question were designed for Sharon, this was it, and she not only didn't get it but is still thinking inside the box.  Well, after all this time, who could blame any of them?

BB probably intended to throw them off a bit with this; as of last night they were still fussing over who it could be: they've gotten half out of the box, figuring it is one person with a relationship to someone outside or two people whose grandparents might be related.

The question threw me too -- I was thinking when it was asked, "Does it have to be people??"  It didn't really matter, though, as no one had to say who was involved in the relationship.

BB has certainly gotten a lot of mileage in the house out of that question.

So . . . have they figured it out yet?

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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #146 on: April 19, 2008, 07:52:46 PM »
[BB has certainly gotten a lot of mileage in the house out of that question.
So . . . have they figured it out yet?]


Ryan said that it was the piggies ONCE, right after the comp was over before getting his HOH but no one caught onto it and he didn't give it a second thought.
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« Reply #147 on: April 19, 2008, 07:59:05 PM »
I'm trying to catch up here.  As of Thursday night, Sheila and Adam were on the block, and as of last night, Ryan had the P.O.V.

Thursday night Sharon explained to Ryan that something shaky was going on with Shiela and Adam -- whether preexisting or not it didn't matter, she said, as it reflected on NOW, and that was all that was important -- and that Sheila got mad at Adam like she had always known him

 
rant: (or as the Shebot would say, "had always knew him" -- I'm going to scream if I have to listen to much more of this; I keep saying to myself, "Sheesh, Self, if she gets a little money out of this, I hope she uses it to go buy some irregular past participles, starting with gone and came -- we learn those before eighth grade, though ninth and tenth is when we really drill them . . . .)




-- IMO, the Shebot is "an entitlement bully" --

and that shebot often slips into saying "we" instead of "I," revealing they are tightly allied, even though they act like they hate each other when they're around other people, and when they're all alone, they're pssst psst pssting .  Plus the shebot is an actress and can cry on a dime has turned on the tears a number of times in the house which always result in the eviction of someone -- I didn't catch it all: turned on the tears and psssoot, Alison's evicted, and so on.

Sharon also advises Ryan that the shebot is a "campaign machine" (again, I just see her as a bully with a sense of entitlement) for other people, so in sequester, if she's put out in any surprising way (any way would be surprising and she would pull the, "Congratulations for being the biggest jerk in the house, I can't believe you did that to me," and all), she'll go and turn all the people against them, including people who were behind them to start with, so it has to be handled well.

IMO, in that case, the sooner the better, giving her campaign time to wear off by the time of the live show outside the house in the studio (where "all these famous people are going to be, bro," Ryan says.  "We're famous, dude." I could go on but somehow I just can't make fun of guys as much as I do of women: women are tougher.  It takes years to learn that; we are and need to be very gentle with guys -- now that is some real reality coming from my heart to all the ladies here.  Men are very fragile.

Now I've been pulling all along for Sharon and Adam to make it to the final two.

So. . . last night, armed with Sharon's wise advice, Ryan gets the bright idea that he can be sure to get rid of Shiela by taking Adam off the block and putting Sharon back into the seat she so graciously inhabits week after week.  He knows that if final HOH is endurance, the shebot will win.  What does he do?  He talks with Adam:

"Can I really really trust you bro?  I mean I have to be sure I can really trust you.  I don't want to see more of this Natalie crap, you know, like you did the last time"

Adam enthusiastically agrees, as usual.

Anyway, Ryan has these wonderful insights and advice from Sharon, his true unwavering ally, so he takes the little knowledge he has -- that dangerous dangerous thing -- and decides that he wants Sheila out because he has to break up the last couple in the house (as per Sharon's insight), and  Adam is the person to do it, so he needs to take Adam off the block, double check that he can trust him and then try to get him to keep a lid on it too.

All last night, watching Showtime, I was shouting, like Gilbert Gotfried, "You fool!"

I love Sharon -- she sits calmly bemused by all of them, not only loyal, honorable, and courageous, but loving of humanity in general, which is what enables her to be bemused by folly.

--speaking of Folly, the 0 card of the Major Arcana in Tarot is the Fool, which reminded me that Cartomancy is card-reading to find the influences at work and look what possible outcomes of it could be.

Now, as I said, I was pulling for Sharon and Adam somehow, all along, and was really offended by the "spineless" label applied to him, though he is a good-time Charlie and likes to go along with the group.

Now I really see the spineless quality that so annoyed others, and here is Ryan, taking Adam's word -- meant in all sincerity at the time, of course -- that if he is taken off the block, he will indeed be the lone voter who says, "Well, Shiela, I'd rather take you off now than later, for my own . . . ."

He has also promised to say nothing to her.

I don't need a book or a deck of cards or the I Ching to point to the probability that he'll blurt something out, and Shiela will get wind of the plan, and will then corral him and bully him into changing his mind and keeping her there.

If that does happen, she deserves to win, just to show them how dumb they were.

Does Ryan say to himself, "Hey, I could just leave the two of them on the block together and I know Sharon will work together with me on this and will keep her word: she has never once broken her loyalty to an ally, and that way, both Adam and I will have clean hands and will get Shiela's vote and she won't campaign against us in sequester; she'll campaign against Sharon (where she'll be shut down in seconds, as Sharon's loyalty cannot be disputed by the people who depended on it).  That way I can be sure of my boy Adam and I'll still have the result I want."  NO!  "You fool!"

He knows that if he takes Adam off and (if) Adam evicts Shiela, then Ryan will know his word is good and he can make up for (all the??) other times he caved -- and who got him to cave?  Shiela.  "You fool!"

Now I'm not sure that it will go down that way, and I am still pulling for Sharon to pull a HOH win out of thin air, soooo . . .  I hope it doesn't go down that way.

It looks like Ryan has already pulled Adam off and put Sharon up, so . . . Wednesday night we'll see.

Actually, it's an even worse scenario.  Shiela next to Sharon on the block is going to be the campaign machine again, bullying and threatening Ryan mercilessly until the minute she walks out the door.  Will Adam cave?

Dumb move Ryan!  Somehow he thought that taking Adam off the block and putting Sharon up would ensure his peace and quiet until the eviction.  "You fool!"

Well, it's off to see Naruto, my highlight of the week -- and not a moment to spare!

--Alison

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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #148 on: April 19, 2008, 08:18:04 PM »
Gnattering, Adam is NOT on the block. Sharon and Sheila are on the block. Ryan won the veto and he's not going to use it.

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Re: BB9 Ongoing *LF Commentary* #6
« Reply #149 on: April 19, 2008, 08:49:21 PM »
If yall noticed last night, Adam did say he swore on his mom  he would vote out Shelia,  but here is the BUT in it all, he NEVER said When he would.
He never litterally, agree'd to vote out shelia this week, if you really paid attention, he just said, he swore he would vote out shelia, but NEVER said when.
He played Ryan, saying he would, to keep from going on the block, smart move by Adam, for not saying when he would do it! to keep from going on the block, i believe his loyalty is still with Shelia, and is just making her sweat it out like ALWAYS.