Topic: BB9 ongoing * LF commentary* #4

[careybear]

Well said NCbbfan. I also have an opinion and it is something that I thought a lot about last night because it really does bother me.

When James was screaming in Sheila's face that was over the line. The fact that no one came to help her compounded it for me. It is unacceptable behavior in a "game" for me. Yet, I haven't seen a lot of outcry about it and this is my concern. If we accept this then what's next? Next time the person is hit? Or worse..badly hurt? If we accept that, is there another boundary we've crossed? Is this what CBS has come to to get ratings? That's my question. If so, what will they do next?

And that doesn't even begin to touch on the other sexual activity and language which was not curtailed either.

Amen TL, I whole heartdly agree.. you took the words right out of my mouth

[shoo]

Well said NCbbfan. I also have an opinion and it is something that I thought a lot about last night because it really does bother me.

When James was screaming in Sheila's face that was over the line. The fact that no one came to help her compounded it for me. It is unacceptable behavior in a "game" for me. Yet, I haven't seen a lot of outcry about it and this is my concern. If we accept this then what's next? Next time the person is hit? Or worse..badly hurt? If we accept that, is there another boundary we've crossed? Is this what CBS has come to to get ratings? That's my question. If so, what will they do next?

And that doesn't even begin to touch on the other sexual activity and language which was not curtailed either.

I thought the same thing.  I've heard Josh tell people to stay out of it because it's not their fight.  But they J/J only throw fits on the women.  You saw the other night when Adam got mad, James shut up IMMEDIATELY.

I wouldn't last a day in that place because I would not be able to tolerate it.  I used to be called the Bully Of The Court.  OK, I lived on a court when I was a kid.  But I got that name from stopping people from picking on other people.  When it started, I would say, That's enough, or give them a taste of their own medicine for a second and step back and say, How do you feel now?  Don't like it Huh?  

I really don't know if it would help or hurt in that house because they all have a common thread of immaturity running through them.  They like Mama Sharon, but I don't think they'd like Mama Thunder  

 I see your point - both James and Josh do focus on the women to yell at.  It very much is an intimidation factor for them to use.  It just wouldn’t work with the Ryan or Adam or even Matt when he was there.   Is it sexist, yes.  I think it says something about the women on the show though as much as it says about Josh and James.  The women on the show seem VERY easy to intimidate and control.  I just don't see any of the remaining women on the show as having very strong personalities in a way that could handle intense confrontation.  Nat loves the positive / sexual attn she gets from men and is prone to appear weak to get that attn.  Sharon relies completely on Josh and is now leaning heavy on Sheila.  Sheila has a lot of baggage (age has alot to do with that) and tends to put more meaning into things that maybe really be there and gets upset easily.  These are very glaring weaknesses in all three of them.  I hope I don't sound horribly sexist in this but to me none of these women seem strong at all.  It makes all three of them very easy targets for any of the men. 

side note:  I think any of the women who have been booted (except Amanda of course) so far would have a much better chance against the guys left on the show than the three actually remaining. 

[ThunderStruck]

WOW 

Natalie just told Sheila that if the three of them (Ryan, Adam & Sheila) don't back her HOH nomination to evict Josh, and one of them flips and votes for Josh spliting the vote 2-2...That Natalie will break the tie by keeping JOSH.  Natalie says that if her group flips on her, she'll flip the house and join James and Josh!

I'm sure it's just a threat, but HOLY MOLY BATMAN is she nutz or what 

yep!,,,, this is what will get nat evicted, we know all 3 are voting out josh but for nat to just say this , hey i am looking out for myself [to her allaince] shelia,adam, and ryan will take nat out for even thinking this, [wow she plain out said she is working with james] i hope nat mouths gets her in the end, i hated the way she handled her hoh....JMO

I honestly think, that Natalie thinks, her only competition is James.  From your post, when you said that she actually admitted it, I finally saw this.

NATALIE ACTUALLY THINKS THIS:  Natalie's team vs James team.

That's how she sees it.  She's basically saying that she won't protect them anymore if they don't do what she says.  She doesn't think anyone else is a threat anymore and she'll help the "losers" if they obey her.  WOW 

[careybear]

WOW 

Natalie just told Sheila that if the three of them (Ryan, Adam & Sheila) don't back her HOH nomination to evict Josh, and one of them flips and votes for Josh spliting the vote 2-2...That Natalie will break the tie by keeping JOSH.  Natalie says that if her group flips on her, she'll flip the house and join James and Josh!

I'm sure it's just a threat, but HOLY MOLY BATMAN is she nutz or what 

yep!,,,, this is what will get nat evicted, we know all 3 are voting out josh but for nat to just say this , hey i am looking out for myself [to her allaince] shelia,adam, and ryan will take nat out for even thinking this, [wow she plain out said she is working with james] i hope nat mouths gets her in the end, i hated the way she handled her hoh....JMO

I honestly think, that Natalie thinks, her only competition is James.  From your post, when you said that she actually admitted it, I finally saw this.

NATALIE ACTUALLY THINKS THIS:  Natalie's team vs James team.

That's how she sees it.  She's basically saying that she won't protect them anymore if they don't do what she says.  She doesn't think anyone else is a threat anymore and she'll help the "losers" if they obey her.  WOW 

I dont know I think it is good game play really, She wants gone who she wants gone, and knows what is best for her, So she is letting her group know now that this is the way it needs to be, I think her being honest about it she is going to be able to do what she had intentions on doing, Taking out Josh. I am a Sharon fan, So I am happyJosh is going over Sharon. But I really think Nat is a GREAT game player.

[shoo]

WOW 

Natalie just told Sheila that if the three of them (Ryan, Adam & Sheila) don't back her HOH nomination to evict Josh, and one of them flips and votes for Josh spliting the vote 2-2...That Natalie will break the tie by keeping JOSH.  Natalie says that if her group flips on her, she'll flip the house and join James and Josh!

I'm sure it's just a threat, but HOLY MOLY BATMAN is she nutz or what 

yep!,,,, this is what will get nat evicted, we know all 3 are voting out josh but for nat to just say this , hey i am looking out for myself [to her allaince] shelia,adam, and ryan will take nat out for even thinking this, [wow she plain out said she is working with james] i hope nat mouths gets her in the end, i hated the way she handled her hoh....JMO

I honestly think, that Natalie thinks, her only competition is James.  From your post, when you said that she actually admitted it, I finally saw this.

NATALIE ACTUALLY THINKS THIS:  Natalie's team vs James team.

That's how she sees it.  She's basically saying that she won't protect them anymore if they don't do what she says.  She doesn't think anyone else is a threat anymore and she'll help the "losers" if they obey her.  WOW 

OMG you are SO right!    She is power trippin hard.   Wow...shes gonna fall hard next week not being HOH and having the deal with the reality that she isnt the "princess".  ummmmm......  

[ThunderStruck]

I didn't want to quote because it's getting long but this was from shoo:

side note:  I think any of the women who have been booted (except Amanda of course) so far would have a much better chance against the guys left on the show than the three actually remaining.  

That is exactly why the men said they were Bitches.  The didn't take a bit of crap.  You're right about the submissiveness of the three women left.  Even they said the other women were loud, pushy or rude and they wanted them out too. DUH

[ThunderStruck]

WOW 

Natalie just told Sheila that if the three of them (Ryan, Adam & Sheila) don't back her HOH nomination to evict Josh, and one of them flips and votes for Josh spliting the vote 2-2...That Natalie will break the tie by keeping JOSH.  Natalie says that if her group flips on her, she'll flip the house and join James and Josh!

I'm sure it's just a threat, but HOLY MOLY BATMAN is she nutz or what 

yep!,,,, this is what will get nat evicted, we know all 3 are voting out josh but for nat to just say this , hey i am looking out for myself [to her allaince] shelia,adam, and ryan will take nat out for even thinking this, [wow she plain out said she is working with james] i hope nat mouths gets her in the end, i hated the way she handled her hoh....JMO

I honestly think, that Natalie thinks, her only competition is James.  From your post, when you said that she actually admitted it, I finally saw this.

NATALIE ACTUALLY THINKS THIS:  Natalie's team vs James team.

That's how she sees it.  She's basically saying that she won't protect them anymore if they don't do what she says.  She doesn't think anyone else is a threat anymore and she'll help the "losers" if they obey her.  WOW 

I dont know I think it is good game play really, She wants gone who she wants gone, and knows what is best for her, So she is letting her group know now that this is the way it needs to be, I think her being honest about it she is going to be able to do what she had intentions on doing, Taking out Josh. I am a Sharon fan, So I am happyJosh is going over Sharon. But I really think Nat is a GREAT game player.

I totally agree with you that Natalie is a GREAT game player.  I just didn't realize her mind set before.  You don't see anyone else from "Natalie's side" saying do it my way or I'll flip sides.  It take confidence and belief that you have this power to use it like she did.

I'm impressed, but shocked that I didn't see this about her before.  We all know James is PLAYIN' this game.  But now I know that Natalie thinks she can PLAY right back  :yikes

[careybear]

WOW 

Natalie just told Sheila that if the three of them (Ryan, Adam & Sheila) don't back her HOH nomination to evict Josh, and one of them flips and votes for Josh spliting the vote 2-2...That Natalie will break the tie by keeping JOSH.  Natalie says that if her group flips on her, she'll flip the house and join James and Josh!

I'm sure it's just a threat, but HOLY MOLY BATMAN is she nutz or what 

yep!,,,, this is what will get nat evicted, we know all 3 are voting out josh but for nat to just say this , hey i am looking out for myself [to her allaince] shelia,adam, and ryan will take nat out for even thinking this, [wow she plain out said she is working with james] i hope nat mouths gets her in the end, i hated the way she handled her hoh....JMO

I honestly think, that Natalie thinks, her only competition is James.  From your post, when you said that she actually admitted it, I finally saw this.

NATALIE ACTUALLY THINKS THIS:  Natalie's team vs James team.

That's how she sees it.  She's basically saying that she won't protect them anymore if they don't do what she says.  She doesn't think anyone else is a threat anymore and she'll help the "losers" if they obey her.  WOW 

I dont know I think it is good game play really, She wants gone who she wants gone, and knows what is best for her, So she is letting her group know now that this is the way it needs to be, I think her being honest about it she is going to be able to do what she had intentions on doing, Taking out Josh. I am a Sharon fan, So I am happyJosh is going over Sharon. But I really think Nat is a GREAT game player.

I totally agree with you that Natalie is a GREAT game player.  I just didn't realize her mind set before.  You don't see anyone else from "Natalie's side" saying do it my way or I'll flip sides.  It take confidence and belief that you have this power to use it like she did.

I'm impressed, but shocked that I didn't see this about her before.  We all know James is PLAYIN' this game.  But now I know that Natalie thinks she can PLAY right back  :yikes

excatly noone knew Nat was like this, that she could and would play the game and play it hard, she knows it is down to the wire and she has to do what she has to do to protect her butt and noone else's

[anotherNCbbfan]

WOW 

Natalie just told Sheila that if the three of them (Ryan, Adam & Sheila) don't back her HOH nomination to evict Josh, and one of them flips and votes for Josh spliting the vote 2-2...That Natalie will break the tie by keeping JOSH.  Natalie says that if her group flips on her, she'll flip the house and join James and Josh!

I'm sure it's just a threat, but HOLY MOLY BATMAN is she nutz or what 

yep!,,,, this is what will get nat evicted, we know all 3 are voting out josh but for nat to just say this , hey i am looking out for myself [to her allaince] shelia,adam, and ryan will take nat out for even thinking this, [wow she plain out said she is working with james] i hope nat mouths gets her in the end, i hated the way she handled her hoh....JMO

I honestly think, that Natalie thinks, her only competition is James.  From your post, when you said that she actually admitted it, I finally saw this.

NATALIE ACTUALLY THINKS THIS:  Natalie's team vs James team.

That's how she sees it.  She's basically saying that she won't protect them anymore if they don't do what she says.  She doesn't think anyone else is a threat anymore and she'll help the "losers" if they obey her.  WOW 

OMG you are SO right!    She is power trippin hard.   Wow...shes gonna fall hard next week not being HOH and having the deal with the reality that she isnt the "princess".  ummmmm......  

Unfortunately, as sad as it is going to be from a humanity standpoint..Nat being on slop and on the block is going to be rather interesting to watch dontcha think?

(edit.: that should have read "humanitarian" not humanity..The bb guests are rubbing off on me..Like Sheila's "scenarials" and Sharons "nip it in the butt" -instead of bud- and Josh's "you verse me" instead of versus --I'm not stupid but am beginning to believe it is ok to be now & then)

[ThunderStruck]

WOW 

Natalie just told Sheila that if the three of them (Ryan, Adam & Sheila) don't back her HOH nomination to evict Josh, and one of them flips and votes for Josh spliting the vote 2-2...That Natalie will break the tie by keeping JOSH.  Natalie says that if her group flips on her, she'll flip the house and join James and Josh!

I'm sure it's just a threat, but HOLY MOLY BATMAN is she nutz or what 

yep!,,,, this is what will get nat evicted, we know all 3 are voting out josh but for nat to just say this , hey i am looking out for myself [to her allaince] shelia,adam, and ryan will take nat out for even thinking this, [wow she plain out said she is working with james] i hope nat mouths gets her in the end, i hated the way she handled her hoh....JMO

I honestly think, that Natalie thinks, her only competition is James.  From your post, when you said that she actually admitted it, I finally saw this.

NATALIE ACTUALLY THINKS THIS:  Natalie's team vs James team.

That's how she sees it.  She's basically saying that she won't protect them anymore if they don't do what she says.  She doesn't think anyone else is a threat anymore and she'll help the "losers" if they obey her.  WOW 

OMG you are SO right!    She is power trippin hard.   Wow...shes gonna fall hard next week not being HOH and having the deal with the reality that she isnt the "princess".  ummmmm......  

Unfortunately, as sad as it is going to be from a humanity standpoint..Nat being on slop and on the block is going to be rather interesting to watch dontcha think?

I really, really think Natalie will only go on the block if James gets HOH.  Everyone else will put up James and Sharon as a pawn.  And Sharon said she'd do James and Adam.  She even told Adam that she was only doing this because he's strong and can take being a pawn over the rest of them, because James can't vote and Adam doesn't have to worry.

[shoo]

yeah you are probably right....BUT it will be interesting to see how people change thier tunes around and towards her this week.  I think there was ALOT of arsekissing going on that will cease after tonight.  Especially with Ryan and possibly Adam.

[anotherNCbbfan]

Won't be long now  

[ThunderStruck]

yeah you are probably right....BUT it will be interesting to see how people change thier tunes around and towards her this week.  I think there was ALOT of arsekissing going on that will cease after tonight.  Especially with Ryan and possibly Adam.

You got that right.  If Ryan or Adam gets HOH, Natalie will just pretend they're Matty and follow them, talk a lot and slowly drive them MAD 

[shoo]

Won't be long now  

ahhhh.... darn east coast people... 

I got HOURS ...HOURS to go.  I could catch a spoiler...but I want it to be special tonight LOL I might have to get a bottle of wine and really appriciate it since Josh is leaving.
 

[Caligirl]

No wine for me, with Josh leaving it is the good stuff (Chunkie Monkey) Ice cream from ben and Jerri's. lol   
I so cannot wait to watch him leave.  I also hope they show some feed from the sequester house. lol

[TexasLady]

I'm laughing at the thought of Mama Thunder and Mama2myboys in the house, I believe you both would be fierce! (Is that word outdated? I need to consult some teenagers.


Interesting thought about Natalie. It might be fortunate that she told Sheila that she had to do what is best for her, had she told anyone else that they would make a mental check mark. Now the question is, who did Sheila tell while we couldn't hear them during trivia. I'm positive she told Sharon something about it. Either you have an alliance or you don't, that could come back to bit Nat in the behind. She could take her BD greetings to sequester along with herself next week. (run Matty run!)

[ThunderStruck]

I'm laughing at the thought of Mama Thunder and Mama2myboys in the house, I believe you both would be fierce! (Is that word outdated? I need to consult some teenagers.


Interesting thought about Natalie. It might be fortunate that she told Sheila that she had to do what is best for her, had she told anyone else that they would make a mental check mark. Now the question is, who did Sheila tell while we couldn't hear them during trivia. I'm positive she told Sharon something about it. Either you have an alliance or you don't, that could come back to bit Nat in the behind. She could take her BD greetings to sequester along with herself next week. (run Matty run!)

Until you asked if fierce was outdated, I was like, Oh yeah, POWERFUL...and then I thought, geez I really need to dye the grey out of my hair tonight 

Could you imagine Matty, Chelsia and Natalie isolated in sequester?  WOW

  :asskiss

[KitKat]

      cannot wait for sheila to get hoh. PPPPPPLLLLLLLEEEEAAAASSSSEEEE    let it be tonight.

[TexasLady]

Until you asked if fierce was outdated, I was like, Oh yeah, POWERFUL...and then I thought, geez I really need to dye the grey out of my hair tonight 

(Same here TS!)

[Blondie]

 

Until you asked if fierce was outdated, I was like, Oh yeah, POWERFUL...and then I thought, geez I really need to dye the grey out of my hair tonight 

(Same here TS!)

You are all killing me tonight! 

Glad to see everyone getting along and having fun!

[ThunderStruck]

    cannot wait for sheila to get hoh. PPPPPPLLLLLLLEEEEAAAASSSSEEEE    let it be tonight.

I wonder if Sheila gets HOH, will they show us the picture of her son?

[KitKat]

    cannot wait for sheila to get hoh. PPPPPPLLLLLLLEEEEAAAASSSSEEEE    let it be tonight.

I wonder if Sheila gets HOH, will they show us the picture of her son?

Probably not cause he's in sequester now

[careybear]

lol you all are full of yourselves tonight, I am cracking up here

[dreamcatcher]

    cannot wait for sheila to get hoh. PPPPPPLLLLLLLEEEEAAAASSSSEEEE    let it be tonight.

I wonder if Sheila gets HOH, will they show us the picture of her son?

Probably not cause he's in sequester now

[ThunderStruck]

    cannot wait for sheila to get hoh. PPPPPPLLLLLLLEEEEAAAASSSSEEEE    let it be tonight.

I wonder if Sheila gets HOH, will they show us the picture of her son?

Probably not cause he's in sequester now

  That actually skipped my mind 

I was thinking more of his total embarrasement.  Now that Sheila is on BB9, the whole world has downloaded her ...  spread ...