Topic: ongoing live feed commentary & chatter thread #4 (spoilers allowed)

[Bucgirl]

I do not think America's vote will go to Dani over Zach, maybe Dick but not Dani.  The other night (Thursday) when America voted for Eric to target someone for eviction, they targeted Dani not Zach.  I also believe Zach would have a good chance against Dick.  The last few episodes BB has really shown Dick and Dani in their true non-favorable light and I think the American public who watches this show but does not pay attention to the feeds is really starting to see the true character of Dick and Dani.

that vote you are referring too lasted 3 minutes and it was non sprint type cell phone users and no internet. it was erratic at best.

You were able to vote on the internet, as I did so 10 times. I believe when the vote counted, such as a chance to get Dani out, America stood up and voted.  They are not necessarily going on CBS to vote on the little popularity poll.  However, when it counted, such as getting someone out of the house, the result was much different than what the CBS polls indicate it should have been.  Dani was rated as the second most popular houseguest at that time, yet America wanted Eric to target her for eviction.  I believe this indicates perhaps Dani is not as popular as some might think.

[FNF]

If you remember Julie said that if by some chance the Americas Player choice for eviction won HOH they would go with the one with the second highest votes.  Therefore we don't know for sure if Dick was the first target or not.  just saying..

[jimm2k]

trying to gauge americas love or hate for one houseguest in a 3 minute vote is like doing exit poll interviews with white male rich republicans only and wondering why your results are off. if you dislike them both and this is what you need to cling to so as your hated d and d may not win go ahead. i am sure the americas player vote will be open for more than 3 minutes for finale night and while the results may surprise you not too many others will be.

[tweedle]

trying to gauge americas love or hate for one houseguest in a 3 minute vote is like doing exit poll interviews with white male rich republicans only and wondering why your results are off. if you dislike them both and this is what you need to cling to so as your hated d and d may not win go ahead. i am sure the americas player vote will be open for more than 3 minutes for finale night and while the results may surprise you not too many others will be.

Well said! There is no doubt that America's Vote will be for a Donato!

[sunflower1220]

trying to gauge americas love or hate for one houseguest in a 3 minute vote is like doing exit poll interviews with white male rich republicans only and wondering why your results are off. if you dislike them both and this is what you need to cling to so as your hated d and d may not win go ahead. i am sure the americas player vote will be open for more than 3 minutes for finale night and while the results may surprise you not too many others will be.

My thoughts exactly!!

[Bucgirl]

trying to gauge americas love or hate for one houseguest in a 3 minute vote is like doing exit poll interviews with white male rich republicans only and wondering why your results are off. if you dislike them both and this is what you need to cling to so as your hated d and d may not win go ahead. i am sure the americas player vote will be open for more than 3 minutes for finale night and while the results may surprise you not too many others will be.

Well said! There is no doubt that America's Vote will be for a Donato!

I have extreme doubt that AP will be for a Donato.  Although I do not really think it matters, as they will not have the jury votes to win regardless.  The only chance they have is to go to F2 together, if not game over Zach wins.   

[tweedle]

trying to gauge americas love or hate for one houseguest in a 3 minute vote is like doing exit poll interviews with white male rich republicans only and wondering why your results are off. if you dislike them both and this is what you need to cling to so as your hated d and d may not win go ahead. i am sure the americas player vote will be open for more than 3 minutes for finale night and while the results may surprise you not too many others will be.

Well said! There is no doubt that America's Vote will be for a Donato!

I have extreme doubt that AP will be for a Donato.  Although I do not really think it matters, as they will not have the jury votes to win regardless.  The only chance they have is to go to F2 together, if not game over Zach wins.   

Stranger things have happened in past seasons. The jury has time to sit and talk about each F2 player and it sometimes changes their mind once they all get to talk together. Plus D&D did play a stronger game (imo). They didn't just float through like Zach. Also, none of the jury members liked Zach, remember?! I guess we will have to wait and see...

[jimm2k]

I have extreme doubt that AP will be for a Donato.  Although I do not really think it matters, as they will not have the jury votes to win regardless.  The only chance they have is to go to F2 together, if not game over Zach wins.   

in past seasons the floaters never did well but they were not as hated as d or d among the other houseguets... but in my opinion zach was not well like amongst those house guests either.

[TannerandLilysMommy]

This is my first year to watch BB (I'm a late bloomer), so I cannot comment on past seasons, but I think that if the Jury sits down and votes on who played the best game, D & D will win by a long shot.  Unfortuantly, I believe that most will vote on a personal level and not strategic, if that is the case I belive that Zach will win if he is in the F2.

[Bucgirl]

I do not believe it is playing a good game, if all your housemates hate you.  Part of this game is to get to the end with the jury members still liking and respecting you.  D&D definitely did not do that!   Look at how the houseguests reacted yesterday when the showed the jury house. It definitely was not in favor of D&D.  When Jameka gets in there and starts telling them what Zach had to endure all week at the hands of D&D, the will have no chance.

I do not think it will be close at all, Zach wins hands down.

[boguelads]

  GO ZACH!!!!!

[MamaTo4boys]

It all comes down to if it is D & D in the F2 or one of them & Zach. I think if Zach is in the F2 (I doubt it ) then the jury will vote personal. I was just thinking about this.

Dustin hates all three of them, but Zach did the least bit of damage to him, Jameka already said she would put in a good word at the jury house for Zach, which also could pull Ambers vote. Jen is not going to vote for D&D unless they are in the F2 together. Thats your 4 votes right there. Jessica, im not real sure. She put up Zach, hates him for putting her out but the Donatos broke their alliance, and I wonder if that will come into play. Then again Eric can convince her and I have no doubt that Producers Player will be a Donato

[Bucgirl]

It all comes down to if it is D & D in the F2 or one of them & Zach. I think if Zach is in the F2 (I doubt it ) then the jury will vote personal. I was just thinking about this.

Dustin hates all three of them, but Zach did the least bit of damage to him, Jameka already said she would put in a good word at the jury house for Dick, which also could pull Ambers vote. Jen is not going to vote for D&D unless they are in the F2 together. Thats your 4 votes right there. Jessica, im not real sure. She put up Zach, hates him for putting her out but the Donatos broke their alliance, and I wonder if that will come into play. Then again Eric can convince her and I have no doubt that Producers Player will be a Donato

Goos points mama!  But I do not think Jameka will vote for Dick at all or put in a good word for him.  She kept rolling her eyes everytime he talked last night, as she did with Dani.  Zach gave her a chance and she saw how he was treated for it, I think she would vote Zach for sure.

[kcphilly]

I don't think Eric is tied to AP for the final vote.  Didn't someone find something on the website that said AP ended on September 12th, today.  Which if he was still in the house would have freed him to take who he wanted if he was HOH, and will free him to be able to vote for himself in the finals.

If this were a month ago I would have said Dick played the best game with such a big target on his back.  But now, breaking alliances, being cruel for no reason, still, if I were voting I wouldn't vote personally and I still wouldn't vote for Dick.  I would have to vote for Dani (even though it would kill me) if she was in the finals, because of all the comps she won.  But Dick aganist Zach...I'd go with Zach all the way.  Laying low is a strategy, and he did what Jessica, Eric, and Jameka were all unable to do, which is to win and keep himself in the game when his back was against the wall.

[MamaTo4boys]

Yeah I thought the AP ended with the final 4, then we also heard September 12 (which I guess if you look at it, could've been F4 had it not been for double eviction).

But if you go to CBS.com and then Americas Player or whatever, it says that Eric is still working for you America, you will have the vote on Finale night or something I can go find it but CBS is loading slow for me.

[jimm2k]

I don't think Eric is tied to AP for the final vote.  Didn't someone find something on the website that said AP ended on September 12th, today.  Which if he was still in the house would have freed him to take who he wanted if he was HOH, and will free him to be able to vote for himself in the finals.

it has already been talked about and eric confirmed on the one show that the last vote from the ap is not his

[Hardawayguy]

Good afternoon    on the east Coast  here  :-) 

So  Dick give in   this morning   LOL 



  this was  a Big  Advance  on Zach    Round  1   to win   here

Zach work  out    in the gym

Zach was  in Better Zach   to Hold  his arm  up  that long  then Dick was 

Now   with the quiz     this will be a big  Advance   on  Dani  over her Father     

If  i was  Dick  i would  give  in   say   i want my DQ    let my daughter win  and  go  the Jury  house   

let be Dani Vs Zach the Final  Round     

Yes    we all  know  alots would  Vote for  Dani  or  Zach to win  if was  Against  Dick  in the Final  Round 

But we  never  hear    what  if  was Dani vs Zach   that would be  very Intesert 

 

[TannerandLilysMommy]

It all comes down to if it is D & D in the F2 or one of them & Zach. I think if Zach is in the F2 (I doubt it ) then the jury will vote personal. I was just thinking about this.

Dustin hates all three of them, but Zach did the least bit of damage to him, Jameka already said she would put in a good word at the jury house for Zach, which also could pull Ambers vote. Jen is not going to vote for D&D unless they are in the F2 together. Thats your 4 votes right there. Jessica, im not real sure. She put up Zach, hates him for putting her out but the Donatos broke their alliance, and I wonder if that will come into play. Then again Eric can convince her and I have no doubt that Producers Player will be a Donato

I completely agree! But it is hard to imagine what the final outcome will be b/c as someone else said, they have had a long time to "get over it" so to speak, and compare notes... This should be interesting!

But, as always, i am rooting for Dani!!!

[Hardawayguy]

here  is  go   

If  is  Dani Vs Zach  in the Final  Round    here 

 Dick,Jess ,and Eric and  Amber   would Vote   for Dani 

 the  Questionmark   would be Dustin,jen ,Jameka 

[TannerandLilysMommy]

here  is  go   

If  is  Dani Vs Zach  in the Final  Round    here 

 Dick,Jess ,and Eric and  Amber   would Vote   for Dani 

 the  Questionmark   would be Dustin,jen ,Jameka 

I'm not so sure about Jess, she could go either way... Zach put her up, but Dani helped to vote her out... that is a tough decision!

[moonflower]

I do not think that questions favor Dani over Zach, Zach has won a couple of HOH's with questions.  Most recently, the one he won Thursday against Dani.  I think a timed puzzle or a competition such as the veto the other day would favor Dani but not straight up questions.  

I have never really heard Zach gloat.  I have heard him say "yes" when he wins something but that is it.  Although after what Dick put him through last night, or for that matter the last couple of days, he has every right to gloat.  Dick has been so confident that Zach was not going to the final 2, he just would not shut up about it.  I think that little tactic is fueling Zach, not hurting him.  D&D would not throw that comp last night because I believe they are scared of Zach, it is like they are trying to convince themselves by all their talking and harrassing of Zach that he has no chance.  They both know this will not be easy to win on Thursday.   If they do not go to the final 2 together, they have no chance of winning the money.  

I have to agree with you here....if you gave all three of them on IQ test, Zach would win hands down.  He's not a stupid person.  I'm not saying that you have to be a rocket scientist to win a comp here either.  I think Zach turned out to be one of the nicest guys in the house.  He's very levelheaded, keeps his feelings under control for the most part & apparently, he's a force to be reckoned with in the house.  

[Hardawayguy]

here  is  go   

If  is  Dani Vs Zach  in the Final  Round    here 

 Dick,Jess ,and Eric and  Amber   would Vote   for Dani 

 the  Questionmark   would be Dustin,jen ,Jameka 

I'm not so sure about Jess, she could go either way... Zach put her up, but Dani helped to vote her out... that is a tough decision!

 Dont Forget   also   jess Put up  Zach  on the Block   too    So 

 it was  Amber Vs Zach fews Week ago  when Amber  went the Jury  house    theirs  Keep Zach over  Amber   

[Nannfan]

Although I don't agree with Dick's personal attacks on others, let's be real, He was the only one who would call others on the BS. And to be quiet honest D & D had alot stacked against them, being father and daughter NO ONE wanted them in the final two b/c they would receive the Bounty.

As for Dick and Zach there was a time when NO ONE in that house would even speak to Zach and there was no good reason for that, but D and D did reach out to him. I think alot of Dick's behavior was encouraged by CBS for the ratings PERIOD, if one can look past his "crap in the house" they can see a genuine person there, especially a father who realizes he screwed up and has tried very hard to reconcile with his daughter.

Not sure I will bother with next years BB (if they have one, budgetting was bad this year blah blah) Because personally this year was totally screwed up with the whole Eric thing. I just love how everyone goes on about the integrity of the game when the BB producers compromised the integrity of the game by have a "mole" in there.

Also, whats the difference in Dicks letter being coded and BB having Eric in there, a mole is a mole.
Point black this years cast sucked! Jen's whinning over her photo early on was stupid. Amber's constant crying, lying and racist comments were sickening. Jessica didn't offer anything other than being Eric's puppet. Oops sorry and her drinking. Jameka wasn't that bad, but she was one of the worse in treating Zach badly, not very Christlike, and in my opinion she led the way for all the other HG's to ostrasize (sp) Zach. And Dustin sheesh I don't even want to go there, he was as bad as Dick and as cruel just did it behind others back which to me is more chicken sh** than Dick doing it openly.

Dani acts like a spoiled brat and that has irritated me this whole summer, I have a daughter that age and her and her father are very close, but some of Dani's behavior toward her Dad was bottom line disrespectful and down right mean. How many of us as parents would not do the same things Dick has done if it were our daughter being called a skank and the other attacks that were made toward Dani. In a closed environment like that ANY parent would make every effort to protect and fight back on their childs behalf, AGAIN not agreeing with tactics but it shows Dicks desire to protect his daughter.To be quiet honest Dani was no where near the skank that some of the other HG's were. Jessica whinning cause she didn't see Eric's penis was disgusting!  Hey IMHO, you can at least show a bit of respect for the person who brought you into the world. Don't have to like what they have done but don't have to treat them like dirt either. And from Vincents interview on CBS, the explaination for D and D not talking was not Dicks doing it was Dani avoiding Dick over a money issue.

Now for the rest of my rant, BTW thanks for listening! There was just to much crap that slipped out this year to say that BB is not behind the scenes aggrevating the situation. Dani being encouraged to use the word pu**y. talk of how BB manipulated the HG's in the DR. I do believe that Jen had knowledge of Eric's "identity" as AP. The leaks od D and D KNOWING each would be in the house. The ball situation with Jameka, the rabbit bar stopping at Dani come on BB and CBS wanted this to be a Zach/Dick duel.

All in all the three that are there SHOULD be there, although I don't believe Zach did the dirty work, he was smart in allowing others to do it for him.  This years BB was the worsee in BB History for personal attacks, leaks, and manipulation. That irritates me to no end. But as they say it is what it is.  I am content with any of the three winning the money. Zach has all along said even coming in second would allow him to fulfil his goals. Good luck to all!

I do hope that Dick comes away with something! If nothing else maybe a renewal of his faith. And a better relationship with his children. Regardless of what others say he did an outstanding job last night, once again showing his heart toward his daughter, It took alot for a man of his age, not to mentionsmoking, and being out of shape.

Thanks for listening or moving on to the next post LOL
MAY THE BEST PLAYER WIN!

[anotherNCbbfan]

I do not respect Dick's game play at all. His personal comments and attacks were over the line (not to say others did not make comments that meet the same level). However, all things aside, and although I am rooting for Zach (Mr. no one picked me in gym class...)...I have got to give it to Dick and his determination. I am literaly on my feet six straight hours at work and it hurts like hell. And it isn't even raining or cold for me.  I am older than dick by about 2 or 3 yrs  
Even if he doesn't believe there is a God, I still sent up a prayer for him.  

That  competition was nothing short of torture.  I am not so sure that CBS shouldn't make that final comp thing more of a physical comp requiring agility and ability and do away with the prisoner of war  stuff  

[moonflower]

I don't think Eric is tied to AP for the final vote.  Didn't someone find something on the website that said AP ended on September 12th, today.  Which if he was still in the house would have freed him to take who he wanted if he was HOH, and will free him to be able to vote for himself in the finals.

If this were a month ago I would have said Dick played the best game with such a big target on his back.  But now, breaking alliances, being cruel for no reason, still, if I were voting I wouldn't vote personally and I still wouldn't vote for Dick.  I would have to vote for Dani (even though it would kill me) if she was in the finals, because of all the comps she won.  But Dick aganist Zach...I'd go with Zach all the way.  Laying low is a strategy, and he did what Jessica, Eric, and Jameka were all unable to do, which is to win and keep himself in the game when his back was against the wall.

I can appreciate your point here but just because dani won comps doesn't mean she played better than zach.  i don't think there are rules as to how they must vote in the end.  will won in the past & came close again last year with out ever winning a comp or pov.  you can vote for who ever you want to vote for.  (i am a huge dr. will fan)