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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #425 on: April 14, 2007, 08:47:45 PM »
I wised up and started recording from my bathroom VCR, its the only room in my house with decent cable.
Picture me climbing up on my toilet then onto my sink to reach the shelf  :lol3:! and you all think Charla is short.
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #426 on: April 14, 2007, 08:49:59 PM »
This shot was taken here (you already knew that) between 11:35 am and 12:07 pm (assumes December 11,12,13 ish).  What is the date anyway?

It must have been largely overcast.  Not much shadows in this clip.  I used the sun's reflection off a distant building (some kind of transportation center) since it is the only bright thing back there.  Angle of incidence equals angle of reflection.  The solar altitude angle of around 45 degrees from the highest sandbag is consistent with this time.

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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #427 on: April 14, 2007, 08:50:46 PM »
Here is the GE location.

Opps, I just noticed that I drew the Sun's arrow at the wrong angle.  I error is in the drawing not the time based on azimuth.  The correct arrow would be pointing right to left by the same amount that this one points left to right.  It is supposed to make an angle of 27.5 deg wrt the face of the long building.

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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #428 on: April 14, 2007, 08:51:35 PM »
Quote from: puddin on April 14, 2007, 08:47:45 PM
I wised up and started recording from my bathroom VCR, its the only room in my house with decent cable.
Picture me climbing up on my toilet then onto my sink to reach the shelf  :lol3:! and you all think Charla is short.

you have a TV in your bathroom?! Cool!

Yay! Thanks Chateau, you rock!
and you peach, for that summary!
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #429 on: April 14, 2007, 08:52:41 PM »
Quote from: Chateau d If on April 14, 2007, 08:49:59 PM
This shot was taken here (you already knew that) between 11:35 am and 12:07 pm (assumes December 11,12,13 ish).  What is the date anyway?

It must have been largely overcast.  Not much shadows in this clip.  I used the sun's reflection off a distant building (some kind of transportation center) since it is the only bright thing back there.  Angle of incidence equals angle of reflection.  The solar altitude angle of around 45 degrees from the highest sandbag is consistent with this time.
We think its Dec 12th :bow:

thanks to Slowhatch's, awesome find.
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #430 on: April 14, 2007, 08:53:45 PM »
Thank you for the video puddin!

But....you have a VCR in your bathroom??!! :lol3: Now we know how you get it all done!


WHOOPPEE! CHATEAU is BACK!! :hearts: :happy: :hearts:
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #431 on: April 14, 2007, 09:02:01 PM »
Teams arrived at the Kuala Lumpur pitstop between about 2pm and 5pm on Dec. 10.  Therefore assuming depart KL on Dec 11 if it is a 12 hour pitstop.

Tasks HK 11-12? ( Filming shot dated 12/12.) And Macao 13th? known to be on ferry Macao to HK (presumably on the way to the airport) on Dec 14th AM.
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #432 on: April 14, 2007, 09:06:03 PM »
WEATHER:
Quote from: georgiapeach on April 12, 2007, 07:13:46 PM
Quote from: Neobie on April 10, 2007, 10:14:38 AM
On the weather in Hong Kong, if it helps any: there was a miserable drizzle for three days, three days of rain in a month otherwise free from any precipitation! Poor racers...

Temperatures varied wildly those few days, going up as high as the 26°C range and as low as 12°C in a single day, if I remember correctly.


from neobie upstream--those temps are 53-79 F
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #433 on: April 14, 2007, 09:10:47 PM »
Hmmm....

apskip's flights (see above) have them arriving 1155 to 1330--so they may not be able to make it to the airport by Chateau's times that first day--making us think another 24 hour pitstop would be possible in KL??, which puts them there on the 12th to match the filming shot....or they have a run around and kill time day on the 11th with HofOp and start tasks on the 12th...hmmm...
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #434 on: April 14, 2007, 09:13:50 PM »
Thanks Peach, Puddin et al.

Has anybody identified the Chinese symbol that Kandice is carrying?

No luck in the time-of-day for the shot of Charla & Mirna going down the bus ramp at the Hong Kong airport.  From the orientation I see on GE it looks like they are headed northwest.  The glass is on the south side of the building.  But anyway, no useful shadows in the shot.
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #435 on: April 14, 2007, 09:15:56 PM »
Quote from: Chateau d If on April 14, 2007, 09:13:50 PM
Has anybody identified the Chinese symbol that Kandice is carrying?

No, I was looking for a while but I gave up!
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #436 on: April 14, 2007, 09:19:20 PM »
Is Mr. Cheung's camera date-stamp set correctly? I think so. Also, he uses d-beta, so he's at a fixed location (I'd guess the pitstop. Because of the rigging I considered the old police hq, but it looks like there's a tree in the background). They probably use the WRP crew for the steadicam shots anyway. Can anybody read the letters on the umbrella?
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #437 on: April 14, 2007, 09:39:28 PM »
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Has anybody identified the Chinese symbol that Kandice is carrying?

No dice--but latest thought from someone upstream (sorry--I've lost that post) is that the Roadblock possibly could consist of having to kick down several doors and collect some of those and then do we know not what-- (all spec of course but sounds good!) and we have NO idea where that task is taking place...

Did you find the bamboo climbing shots too?  :gman: 
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #438 on: April 14, 2007, 11:15:40 PM »
No leads on the umbrella, just advertising for a local pharmacy chain...

The lack of buildings in the background makes me think it's either on the coast or on a rooftop. (Come on, there are high-rises EVERYWHERE in Hong Kong.) To my knowledge, rooftops in Hong Kong make use mostly of parapets, not railings or fences. So... on the harbour somewhere? Kai Tak?

Plus... After rotating, shearing and flipping, 'fook' for 'fortune'?

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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #439 on: April 15, 2007, 12:27:25 AM »
This shot was taken here (and you knew that too!) between 7:45 and 8:15 am (assumes December 12th)

There is a give-away shadow on the cylindrical hut on the top of the building in the background.  The line that separates dark on the left from bright on the right defines a plane that includes the axis of the cylinder.  The perpendicular to that plane points to solar azimuth.  The bright "stars" were added by the editors.

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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #440 on: April 15, 2007, 12:37:43 AM »
Thanks Chateau :wohoo:

would the shot being mirrored effect the time? because I remember reading something about those shots being flipped...or it might have been from a different part of the HK leg...so excuse me if I got mixed up! Maybe someone can help me out LOL

nevermind!!

I guess all teams make the 'crucial' flight..
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #441 on: April 15, 2007, 12:56:51 AM »
This shot was taken between 8:30 and 9:30 am (assumes December 12th)

The sun has been mostly clouded out so I think it is later than E&D's climb.

I ball-parked a solar altitude of 25 deg using the general luminance of Kandice's butt.  It's a rather uncertain call, I just wish I had a better view.   :angel:

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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #442 on: April 15, 2007, 01:01:39 AM »
 :rotf:
who would have thought Kandice's bum would help figure out the possible time of the climb! LOL..nice work  :jam:
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #443 on: April 15, 2007, 01:04:25 AM »
Quote from: Chateau d If on April 15, 2007, 12:56:51 AM
This shot was taken between 8:30 and 9:30 am (assumes December 12th)

The sun has been mostly clouded out so I think it is later than E&D's climb.

I ball-parked a solar altitude of 25 deg using the general luminance of Kandice's butt.  It's a rather uncertain call, I just wish I had a better view.   :angel:
I bet you do ,lol  :snicker:
I know you are busy Chateau and want to thank you for taking a time out and  indulging us :luvu:
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #444 on: April 15, 2007, 01:09:21 AM »
And this one of the Chas is essentially the same time as D&E

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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #445 on: April 15, 2007, 01:13:29 AM »
Quote from: Chateau d If on April 15, 2007, 01:09:21 AM
And this one of the Chas is essentially the same time as D&E

I think that is Eric!

Based on the BQ and ED timestamp my guess is that this is going to be one of the first "close" races that we've had since Maputo, Mozambique. Every other episode there seems to have been one team either really far ahead, or really far behind.
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #446 on: April 15, 2007, 01:16:46 AM »
I know you are out of the loop Chateau with your real life stuff, I think its Eric too.
The Cha's doing the Car ( detour? we think its the other option), they are really behind based on their timestamp :( .
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #447 on: April 15, 2007, 01:22:41 AM »
Opps!  I was fooled by the colors?  I don't know.

The Charla & Mirna shots look a little later than the BQs.  Call it 10 ish.  I really don't know how to judge the shadows when it's overcast.  All you have to look at is general patterns of brightness.  And then you have to ask if it is brighter than other stuff just because it is more out in the open.  Then they have these stupid stars going around   (:;)
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #448 on: April 15, 2007, 01:24:53 AM »
lmao, it's ok chateau, we wont hold it against you if some of your time predictions are off this week! Cloudy weather sucks...other then when you are waking up to it on a Sunday morning and you don't have to get out of bed :)

Puddin - I can't find the D/O picture...what's the time stamp on it?! I hope they aren't that far behind...I want a suspenseful episode for once!!  :'(
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Re: EP10: "We Are Trying To Make Love, Not War."
« Reply #449 on: April 15, 2007, 01:36:58 AM »
Plus they have some weird filter thing going on Chateau! All that yellow messing the sky up.

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