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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #900 on: December 09, 2020, 11:48:48 PM »
I didn't even @ james and will on twitter and got blocked

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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #901 on: December 09, 2020, 11:54:10 PM »
Though this guy on instagram saying the final 3's plane back to America should be shot down was way out of line. Like seriously wtf man


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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #902 on: December 09, 2020, 11:59:59 PM »
Welp, there will always be crazies, unfortunately.

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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #903 on: December 10, 2020, 12:36:36 AM »
The season was too predictable. And the alliance ruined a big part of the entertainment.

I don't know how much % of fans will have this season ranked in their Top 5 and even on their Top 10.

Well, anyways a TAR season is (or was...) always worth the wait and the watch.
Just can't wait for 33 already.
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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #904 on: December 10, 2020, 12:40:45 AM »
I didn't even @ james and will on twitter and got blocked

Yeah not sure what their constant obsession with defending themselves on Twitter is. It's like they actively go out of their way to bait the TAR community into discussion and then get pissed off when people don't agree with their actions.

This entire season blows.


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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #905 on: December 10, 2020, 01:00:05 AM »
I can’t say how much negativity there has been directed towards any team as I don’t see those unless they are retweeted.  But to have Racers complain about the tone means that tone is excessive. Remember Flo, in her season that she and her teammate won? And to watch that final leg at TARcon and then the teams arrive, and literally almost no one even talked to her? (I did by the way.)
As James and Will have pointed out on social media repeatedly! It’s a game. And I have pointed out all season once the alliance emerged, it’s not against thr rules. What you had was a master stroke of gameplay on TAR like we hadn’t see before, a long term alliance of strong teams that worked and a final three of those five teams that worked. On this leg it does appear the teams tried in good faith to complete the musical memory task on their own, but for all four teams to interpret it that same way, meant that the clue itself was or seemed to be part of the problem. So the decision of the allied final three teams to work together to solve a then seemingly unsolvable task is understandable. It’s also fortunate that two of the teams finally re-read the clue and realized what was wanted. No idea how long teams were there, but their decision is understandable. Gary and D’Angelo could have re-read the clue at any point, but they didn’t.
So I really don’t see anything to bitch about. I really don’t.
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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #906 on: December 10, 2020, 01:22:32 AM »
I agree that we have nothing to do with the alliance because it's not against the rules.
It's just not nice for - us - the viewers.
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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #907 on: December 10, 2020, 02:12:31 AM »
Nah, the clue itself wasn't the problem. The teams just really don't know how to read clues (as has been shown repeatedly this season) and can't complete tasks without someone else holding their hand. Nothing new and totally expected and predictable in this Penultimate Leg.

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« Reply #908 on: December 10, 2020, 03:11:09 AM »
One thing i can actually agree about the alliance and its impact to this season is that the crews put too much emphasis on the alliance edits and not with the inter team characters and their personalities. That is what's missing in this season. We don't how actually enjoyable and outgoing Eswar and Aparna were until we saw the bonus scene, we don't know W/J personality more than just being sneaky in the game, and etc. I wish teams personality were explored more in the main scenes rather in the bonus scenes/insider clips. I heard Amy Warren said that in one of Justin's recap and I agreed with her
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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #909 on: December 10, 2020, 03:38:28 AM »
Thought I just had

Production: buys flights in advance to save money

Also Production: spends more money on first class tickets for final 3 teams


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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #910 on: December 10, 2020, 03:47:08 AM »
One thing i can actually agree about the alliance and its impact to this season is that the crews put too much emphasis on the alliance edits and not with the inter team characters and their personalities. That is what's missing in this season. We don't how actually enjoyable and outgoing Eswar and Aparna were until we saw the bonus scene, we don't know W/J personality more than just being sneaky in the game, and etc. I wish teams personality were explored more in the main scenes rather in the bonus scenes/insider clips. I heard Amy Warren said that in one of Justin's recap and I agreed with her
That's why I like to read Thesupacoowackiestblogintheuniverse's Blog, I learned things about the race that I WOULD NOT be able to learn somewhere else (at least from what I know).

And by Amy, you mean Amy & Maya (or as I like to put it "Amaya")?
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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #911 on: December 10, 2020, 04:20:16 AM »
Nah, the clue itself wasn't the problem. The teams just really don't know how to read clues (as has been shown repeatedly this season) and can't complete tasks without someone else holding their hand. Nothing new and totally expected and predictable in this Penultimate Leg.

This. I don’t think anyone’s ever mentioned this being against the rules but reality shows change when they get broken, or not entertaining. Big brother got rid of majority rules because majority alliances coordinated to always pick the first option. That’s no fun! So they got rid of it. Survivor had an idol that was played after the votes were read, but when one person sailed to the end with no obstacles they changed it to be played Before the votes were read, and made things interesting. TARs done the same thing with U-Turns and race hindrances (even fast forwards!). TAR should definitely look at this season, and the backlash it’s received. For heavens sake Phil had to audibly reprimand teams to think for themselves so I *speculate* they aren’t the happiest with how things played out, and TAR33/34 whatever is next will be a moment to watch for sure.

And if teams can’t handle valid criticisms without censorship, then that’s on them. Me thinks they won’t be favorites for returning seasons.

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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #912 on: December 10, 2020, 07:04:19 AM »
Though this guy on instagram saying the final 3's plane back to America should be shot down was way out of line. Like seriously wtf man

I hope someone reported that.

That sort of comment should never be allowed.

This is TV for heaven's sake. WIth REAL people and REAL feelings. THAT always comes first.
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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #913 on: December 10, 2020, 07:35:54 AM »
Nah, the clue itself wasn't the problem. The teams just really don't know how to read clues (as has been shown repeatedly this season) and can't complete tasks without someone else holding their hand. Nothing new and totally expected and predictable in this Penultimate Leg.

This. I don’t think anyone’s ever mentioned this being against the rules but reality shows change when they get broken, or not entertaining. Big brother got rid of majority rules because majority alliances coordinated to always pick the first option. That’s no fun! So they got rid of it. Survivor had an idol that was played after the votes were read, but when one person sailed to the end with no obstacles they changed it to be played Before the votes were read, and made things interesting. TARs done the same thing with U-Turns and race hindrances (even fast forwards!). TAR should definitely look at this season, and the backlash it’s received. For heavens sake Phil had to audibly reprimand teams to think for themselves so I *speculate* they aren’t the happiest with how things played out, and TAR33/34 whatever is next will be a moment to watch for sure.

And if teams can’t handle valid criticisms without censorship, then that’s on them. Me thinks they won’t be favorites for returning seasons.

The fact that Phil had to remind them countless times shows how this alliance bothered production.
It's like a parent telling their toddlers not to do this. Ugh.
The apologists, trolls and alliance defenders are all-out. Reading those was like. I'm not buying that."
I really don't care if it was brilliant gameplay, an effective strategy or it was within the rules. Yeah, sure it was within the rules.
But on a viewer's perspective and on an entertainment perspective. It was flat out bad.
The alliance basically took away the thrill of what a Race really meant.
Yes, there were alliances in the past, it was acceptable and manageable but the alliance this season was overtly excessive.
This is The Amazing Race! RACE. There's only 1 team that wins till the end.
I really feel bad for production for making flawless tasks, hard tasks only to be ruined by you know what.....

If there's a returning season, an Unfinished Business one,
I see only the 6th-8th Place (Blonde Bandits, Cool Nerds & Cajun Asians)  returning as stellar choices.
If there's an All-Winners Season, nobody should get called from this season back regardless of who wins. God forbid that to happen.
TAR 33/34 should revise their rules. I cannot stomach seeing this happen again, the 2nd time around.

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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #914 on: December 10, 2020, 02:45:38 PM »
I saw someone point this out and I agreed with it so much that I'm sharing the sentiment here: having the teledisco song from Germany would've made more sense than the French song

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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #915 on: December 10, 2020, 03:59:36 PM »
As much as the alliance made the season worst, I really enjoyed this season (maybe it is because we haven't had a new season in a year and a half?). I would probably put it in the top 15-20 however we do have the finale so this will be the second leg of the season where the alliance won't be used.

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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #916 on: December 10, 2020, 05:49:56 PM »
Though this guy on instagram saying the final 3's plane back to America should be shot down was way out of line. Like seriously wtf man

Report it. The FBI's website allows anonymous tips. https://www.fbi.gov/tips
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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #917 on: December 10, 2020, 06:11:22 PM »
I love Hung & Chee and hope they win. I loved Kaylynn & Haley's arc and really enjoyed them as a team. Would happily see both race again. Otherwise, there have been some definite issues in this season that I think need clearing up. Too many Yield/U-Turn's. And the alliance didn't work well and they should deter teams from doing that in future at challenges.
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« Reply #918 on: December 10, 2020, 07:33:34 PM »
Think about it this way. The show comes up with all these tasks, has to worry about logistics and making sure everything's working well. We all know the effort, blood, sweat and tears that goes into putting the Race together. Then here comes a team that finds a shortcut, exploits a loophole or somehow doesn't perform the task completely on their own. Would you be willing to pay the winner of that Leg $10,000 when they didn't even do every single thing required of them as you laid out?

Yes, they're not breaking any rules. But if you value the Race as a competition, would you like to see this be the norm moving forward? The top contenders are the ones that game the system the best?

Again, it's partly on the task design, which Bertram and Co. will have to address moving forward. No question. But it's also on the Racers for trying to find a shortcut. Which, I believe, is different from figuring out the best way or right way to complete a task. I'm sure someone else can explain what I'm trying to say in a much better way. But I hope I got the basic point across.

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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #919 on: December 10, 2020, 09:07:56 PM »
I really would love to see Michelle & Victoria's reaction to them getting the news of the finale taking place in their home state. :funny:
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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #920 on: December 10, 2020, 09:37:07 PM »
Think about it this way. The show comes up with all these tasks, has to worry about logistics and making sure everything's working well. We all know the effort, blood, sweat and tears that goes into putting the Race together. Then here comes a team that finds a shortcut, exploits a loophole or somehow doesn't perform the task completely on their own. Would you be willing to pay the winner of that Leg $10,000 when they didn't even do every single thing required of them as you laid out?

Yes, they're not breaking any rules. But if you value the Race as a competition, would you like to see this be the norm moving forward? The top contenders are the ones that game the system the best?

Again, it's partly on the task design, which Bertram and Co. will have to address moving forward. No question. But it's also on the Racers for trying to find a shortcut. Which, I believe, is different from figuring out the best way or right way to complete a task. I'm sure someone else can explain what I'm trying to say in a much better way. But I hope I got the basic point across.


My take is the one who take the advantage of the loophole(s) isnt the one to blame, but the creator/designer is. 32 season of TAR, and many moments when team helped each other in some tasks even before this season, they should have know better, they should have thought those better. Yes, it is partly because of racers study and research the race too, but honestly, with how many seasons of TAR they have been produced, they should have thought to prevent the loopholes

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« Reply #921 on: December 10, 2020, 10:32:35 PM »

My take is the one who take the advantage of the loophole(s) isnt the one to blame, but the creator/designer is. 32 season of TAR, and many moments when team helped each other in some tasks even before this season, they should have know better, they should have thought those better. Yes, it is partly because of racers study and research the race too, but honestly, with how many seasons of TAR they have been produced, they should have thought to prevent the loopholes.

I think it goes deeper than that. I just listened to three exit interviews with Gary and DeAngelo.

IMO this is a casting failure.

You have two celebrities who come to a Live Casting Call and say we want to do the race. Neither has SEEN a season.

They are personable and fun and you decide to snap them up. Probably excited to think you will bring in a new crowd of Football Fans. Gary proceeds to binge 10 seasons. DeAngelo does not.

SO you have one team member who literally thinks he is going to see the world.

Is this the Team's fault when things fall apart? Or was this a Casting mistake??

I personally think it was Casting. There are thousands of TEAMS out there waiting to be chosen  INCLUDING ATHLETES WITH MAJOR FOLLOWINGS who also BOTH  know and understand the RACE. AND who would be funny and charming and delightful to watch.

DeAngelo got into something he didn't understand. For most of the race he did stick it out and try his best. BUt they never should have been chosen.

You have fans who appreciate every second of the show. PICK THEM.

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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #922 on: December 10, 2020, 10:53:19 PM »
I really would love to see Michelle & Victoria's reaction to them getting the news of the finale taking place in their home state. :funny:
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« Reply #923 on: December 10, 2020, 11:28:46 PM »

You have fans who appreciate every second of the show. PICK THEM.

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I really refuse to believe that there are not at least 8 applicants (let's say 8 so the show has room for their precious influencer recruits) who are:
1. at least familiar with the show, if not fans of the show already
2. ready and willing to compete
3. excited to travel the world
4. have great, fun, interesting personalities

It's really simple. Of all the teams that apply, they can't find 6-8 pairs like that?

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Re: TAR 32: Bitch, Moan, Squeal Here! (Filming and pre show Spoilers)
« Reply #924 on: December 10, 2020, 11:47:28 PM »
The winners of most seasons after the first two had seen the show before they Raced. In some instances, like Cody in season 30, it had been a long time before, and his situation (had not watched in 10 years and with being in the Big Brother house until six days before racing, but he still managed to at least watch episodes. And it isn’t hard to find prior seasons, you can buy every aired season between ITunes and Amazon. Then you have Will and James, who clearly had the entire library to watch and rewatch and apparently paid attention to everything’s teams did that worked, or didn’t work, and the social dynamics involved.
So, if the producers want fresh meat that knew nothing about the game of TAR, then do a whole cast that way. If they’re finding that “super” fans or better stated as”highly observant” fans to race, then cast that way. But there’s only so much a team is going to be able to do if they’re not familiar withTAR, and even when they are, it still takes a bit of good luck and fortune to win final three or win it all.
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